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Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 11 - Shootin' the Bull (or Bison)

• Kate & KJ • Season 3

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Greetings and Salutations, Listener! 

In this episode, we're just shootin' the bull, and our casual conversation covers whatever crosses our minds on a humid summer day.

• Finding a bison farm in Metz, Michigan
• Recommending Friendly Foodies in Alpena for incredible plant-based dishes including the Cluck Yeah! tacos
• Noticing bugs getting bigger
• Discussing climate change impacts, including Arizona cacti dying from excessive heat
• Exploring Fourth of July plans and childhood memories
• Sampling V8's Dill Pickle Bloody Mary mix and discussing non-alcoholic beer options
• Debating potential future podcast topics: chickens, emo music, punk, Scientology, elephants, or Eva Peron

Voice your opinion on future topics at HeroOrDick2023@gmail.com!

Thanks for tuning in!

~ Kate & KJ



Speaker 1:

Okay, testing. We're here, we're live.

Speaker 2:

We are, we're, uh, we are the podcast. Here we're Dick.

Speaker 1:

We are. This is Kate.

Speaker 2:

And KJ.

Speaker 1:

And uh, it's a little little um humid in here today it's hot, it's hot out.

Speaker 2:

It was 84 degrees.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we got this brand new studio and the AC doesn't work. No, we're at Horse Feather Studio again.

Speaker 2:

Again.

Speaker 1:

Thanks to everybody that stopped by. Thanks, Brooke. She's letting us use this rent-free.

Speaker 2:

We get to look at beautiful art.

Speaker 1:

We do If anybody ever wants to buy any art, let me know, and I just want to say that our logo. Oh, it's in my daughter's room, is it? Oh, then we found it.

Speaker 2:

No, who did it? Did Brooke?

Speaker 1:

do it. Yeah, brooke did it, brooke Stevens.

Speaker 2:

And it is cool looking, I think I love it. We need to put it on a mug, some point she's got a website too.

Speaker 1:

But anyway, your cereal painting. Somebody wanted to buy that the other day.

Speaker 2:

I like the cereal painting, so if you're going to get that, you better jump on it. It's cereal-like Froot Loops is what it looks like. I like the little paintings on blocks that she did over here.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yep, I like that one. I have a picture of this one with the cloud above them. People they don't know what to do, so they just have a cloud above them. The government Is that the government?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, no, probably not.

Speaker 2:

So there's lots of cool things in here, something for everyone.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, if anybody ever wants to come in, what's our email?

Speaker 2:

Our email? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

HeroOrDick2023 at gmailcom If you want to drop us a line.

Speaker 2:

That's my name right there, or If?

Speaker 1:

you want to drop us a line or make an appointment to come in here and see some art, I'll open this place up, I don't care. There's more in the back, it's fucking hot in here, though, and it's pretty warm. I almost got a hot coffee.

Speaker 2:

But KJ did get us nice cool coffee. And what is mine is beautiful.

Speaker 1:

It's called the Blackberry Cold Brew Sweet Foam. But they didn't have the cold brew so they did an iced coffee with the blackberry and the sweet foam.

Speaker 2:

And then it has a foam and then some chocolate drizzled on top.

Speaker 1:

What's it called Big B Big.

Speaker 2:

B. Big B's Bigsby, big B Does it have two G's, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

We have three locations in Alpena.

Speaker 2:

We do it's big in Alpena. We do it's big in.

Speaker 1:

Alpena, it's not every corner. Well, that's four corners, but three of the four corners of town. We don't have four corners, really, do we?

Speaker 2:

I don't think there's a four corner you could say Bagley, and 32 is, I guess I hate that area.

Speaker 1:

What you do. Yeah, it's like any time you could die there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I feel like you could get in an accident at any time there, and I hear tell that they might put a roundabout there. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Jesus Christ, you're going to see so many old not old people, I'm an old person.

Speaker 2:

I'm an old person too.

Speaker 1:

You're going to see people bumping over the curb flipping their car over.

Speaker 2:

It would not be pretty. I think they need to do it. Piss some people off. Oh, just for that factor.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, keep people uncomfortable.

Speaker 2:

It's important Get out of your comfort zone, people.

Speaker 1:

Good old Pina though.

Speaker 2:

And so that's what we're doing today getting out of our comfort zone. We don't have a topic as you may have noticed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Because I've been doing research, but on different things, not on the podcast.

Speaker 1:

Oh, bison meat. Yeah, tell us about the bison.

Speaker 2:

Well, we found a bison farm in Metz Michigan, and I cannot tell you the people's name, but it is on.

Speaker 1:

Metz Highway.

Speaker 2:

I believe it's the only one on Metz Highway and we bought some burger from them and tonight we're having the burgers and ribeye. Bison ribeye and it was delicious, was it? It was delicious, it's not fatty is it?

Speaker 1:

No, and it's not gamey either. Okay, don't like that. Any wild animal like that and they have.

Speaker 2:

Okay, you know, don't like that any wild animal like that, and they have. You know, the bison are there and the bison. There's some bison babies too.

Speaker 1:

They were pretty adorable how'd they feel about you taking away the body parts, the bison, yeah well, I'll tell you what.

Speaker 2:

When you walk in there or you walk behind there and they have fences, they have a couple different pens, large, huge pens and as we're walking up, uh, julie thanks julie she was telling us about the bison and she was saying don't walk too fast. And we walked a little too fast and they were like, oh, we don't like you. And they took off. So then we stood there and talked and then they came back did you get to pet them?

Speaker 2:

no, oh my god, no, no, no. They don't want you to pet them. The bison don't want you to, and the people who own the bison don't want you to.

Speaker 1:

They're dangerous animals, sure.

Speaker 2:

And they're big as a bus. Yeah, they're huge. The babies are a small car size of a small car, oh wow.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, size of a small car. Oh wow, yeah, people eat the babies of it. I don't know, would that be veal or something? I guess Bison veal.

Speaker 2:

With a cow. It's veal. I didn't get any veal, I just got burger, burger and ribeyes and a roast.

Speaker 1:

You know what that's got me thinking? And it was very reasonable too. Was it.

Speaker 2:

As the meat goes. We got one big roast, two pounds, maybe four pounds of hamburger and like four ribeyes, and it was $67. What?

Speaker 1:

That's really good, I know, I know.

Speaker 2:

Per pound? I can't remember, but it was reasonable Nice.

Speaker 1:

I had the opposite of that yesterday. I'll give a little shout out to a place in town, I guess.

Speaker 2:

That was me slurping that coffee.

Speaker 1:

Friendly Foodies. The vegan place.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I don't know of them, come on.

Speaker 1:

You know everything about town.

Speaker 2:

I know nothing what.

Speaker 1:

You're like an engaged citizen Right over on. Oh my God, what's a cub Friendly Foodies.

Speaker 2:

They got a little cow on their sign, but what's a cow?

Speaker 1:

Friendly foodies. They got a little cow on their sign, but there's no cow on there. Well, yeah, you know when you come the alley behind Rusty Petunia and all that shit.

Speaker 2:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 1:

So you come out to the main road and you take a left by the hair salon.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, right there.

Speaker 1:

What is that called? Is that 2nd? It's not 2nd, it's 3rd, 3rd Avenue. Oh my God, I'm a moron. I live in town that street. People can't see it. Anyway look it up, friendly Foodies, is that?

Speaker 2:

2nd Avenue.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, but it's over here Okay. So you're one dentist, the dentist Beatty's place.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay, isn't that Presque Isle Cider place? No.

Speaker 1:

Opposite side of the street.

Speaker 2:

Anyhow.

Speaker 1:

Okay, friendly, been there too. They're good I don't drink, but I have.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they have a non-cider slushie they do I think so.

Speaker 1:

What am I talking about again, friendly?

Speaker 2:

Foodies, friendly Foodies. What did you buy?

Speaker 1:

I had the Cluck yeah.

Speaker 2:

I'm guessing it was chicken.

Speaker 1:

It was. No, it was fake chicken Tacos three of them and I'm telling you, I couldn't tell you the difference. It tasted like chicken, it looked like chicken, it was absolutely delicious. Probably three of the best tacos I've had.

Speaker 2:

So did it look like shredded chicken?

Speaker 1:

It looked like grilled chicken that you chopped up. Wow, it was really good. And then I tasted Brooke's bagel sandwich thing. It was really good too, but mine was better. So shout out to those guys, check it out.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and now also, if you're in Alpena, there are some I don't know what. They're calling them the kiosks.

Speaker 1:

The kiosks.

Speaker 2:

The kiosks.

Speaker 1:

You did talk about them last time I got more to say too, so go ahead as usual.

Speaker 2:

So I was just going to mention the kiosks and say that they're all open now. I think.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, no, knobby's opens the third oh that's tomorrow. Tomorrow, tomorrow, I love you. Tomorrow, tomorrow what's that song? You're Only a Day Away. So Jovi Bree Stevens, my daughter, I told you she's doing social media for Blue Blends down there, the smoothie place. But, she also got the gig to do the social media for all those little places down there. Good job, Jovi so that's cool, but that's so cool. We have those little places down there, god.

Speaker 2:

Jovi, so that's cool, but that's so cool. We have those little places down there, and I see they have a lot of public seating area so you can get whatever food. They're not all food, though.

Speaker 1:

Nope, and the thing is they're all doing pretty well from when I was over there talking to them and what Jovi says. But once Kanabi's goes in there it's going to blow the doors off and that's going to be good for that whole for the whole thing, because people, people do love kanabis.

Speaker 2:

How can you not god they're donuts just say kanabis pillows eating pillows. They are like they're pillowy they're pillowy in a good way. Now, before we go any further, I just want to say this is our regroup podcast, so we're adding and talking about things we've forgotten or needed to add.

Speaker 1:

Can we tell them why we're doing this?

Speaker 2:

Because for once somebody isn't prepared, and it's Kate.

Speaker 1:

I actually was prepared, you were not. I'm not kidding you, I watched. Go ahead, I'll carry you. No, I don't want Kate. I actually was prepared, you were not.

Speaker 2:

I'm not kidding you. I watched Go ahead, I'll carry you. No, I don't want to.

Speaker 1:

I like it better when you're engaged. Anyway, go ahead. So this is a filler episode.

Speaker 2:

So the filler episode. The first thing I need to say is Large Marge. I'm so sorry that I forgot you at the Paul Rubin slash Pee Wee podcast. I don't want her to come back and haunt me. I want to be on good terms with Large Marge because I love her. So so I just want to say thank you, cassidy, for pointing that out. And I forgot Large Marge. How could I do that? I don't know.

Speaker 1:

She might not forgive you.

Speaker 2:

Well, cassidy might not, and that would be. She's a tough cookie though I know that might happen, but really I'm afraid of Large Marge coming back on me, because Large Marge Is she part of the Polish Mafia? Large Marge? No, she's a trucker. So, run you over, yeah, she would. Or give me a ride Like she did Pee Wee.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, bye-bye. Tell them, large Marge sent you Large Marge sent you she was in.

Speaker 2:

What else was she?

Speaker 1:

in, though it's the laugh. She was in something else.

Speaker 2:

Oh, she was in a couple of things.

Speaker 1:

Played the same kind of character.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think so We'd have to Google that. I don't know about large Marge. Okay, so I'm going to check her off the list.

Speaker 1:

Check her off the list.

Speaker 2:

I will. My next thing that I just want to mention, and you sent me a video of a bug eating like a human. I think it was.

Speaker 1:

I'm not sure. It was an alien bug eating a human and it was pretty intense. It was my cousin sure it was an alien bug eating a human and it was pretty intense.

Speaker 2:

It was my cousin Jeffrey. It was a big bug, mm-hmm. And so that made me look at some other bugs, and I think that bugs are getting bigger.

Speaker 1:

That was a big dragonfly.

Speaker 2:

It was huge. It was huge. It was like the size of a hummingbird. Easy, oh bigger.

Speaker 1:

You think bigger. Yeah, I hummingbird easy. Oh, bigger, I couldn't believe it. Yeah, I heard it before. I saw it coming when it landed and then, uh, shook the tree that it landed, no, and then I looked, I swear I could hear it eating like, yeah, I looked and it was just going and it didn't move, like it was like F you buddy, I'm busy here this is my hobby.

Speaker 2:

Oh, like you were taping him and he's like I'm trying to eat dinner here. You didn't even care.

Speaker 1:

But I think you're right. I think they should get bigger.

Speaker 2:

I think they're getting bigger and I think it was gradual and now, maybe in the past five years, I think it's like noticeable. You know, like kids that are born today are just going to think that flies are the size of hummingbirds. That's going to be their norm.

Speaker 1:

It could be that Mother Nature is sick of us.

Speaker 2:

And she's like I'm going to make you guys get bigger if you eat those humans, because they are a detriment.

Speaker 1:

And they don't want to do it all at once because, because it would shock us, cause chaos. So they're doing it methodically, growing slowly and nabbing us one at a time.

Speaker 2:

I'm convinced and this is before the movie them, if you haven't seen that movie, the ants are going to take us over. They're getting bigger, they're getting bigger. Yeah, they're getting bigger. And not only are they getting bigger. There's so many of them right now. If they rallied against humans, they could totally take us over?

Speaker 1:

I think they are, but they're doing it from underground yeah like they're just carving it up down there and we're just going to sink oh okay, I don't know do you kill all the bugs? I don't kill them.

Speaker 2:

No, I don't I like spiders. They kill all the bugs. I don't kill them. No, I don't I like spiders. They're fine with me, we're cool, we're on good terms. They are getting bigger, also larger, but I'm okay with them because they kind of eat other bugs.

Speaker 1:

Dragonflies do too.

Speaker 2:

Dragonflies are beautiful, I don't mind dragonflies Cicadas, very loud, very annoying, but they aren't eating me.

Speaker 1:

Right.

Speaker 2:

Yet, okay, not yet.

Speaker 1:

Oh, my God.

Speaker 2:

If they would have been eating humans when we were gone and when I was on vacation, I wouldn't have come back because there were so many millions of cicadas.

Speaker 1:

That'd be scary.

Speaker 2:

Maybe they have that sound they make and so maybe that's mesmerizing people some way.

Speaker 1:

I was watching something yesterday that's a horror movie and there was some sound in the background and I said to Brooke are those cicadas? Like it was weird. It was like so, like chirp, chirp, chirp, Like loud Screechy, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they're very.

Speaker 1:

Well, one is loud and then you get two, and then you get thousands of them and it's like you can't talk over it.

Speaker 2:

Like the buzzing in my microphone right now. Sorry, I think only you hear that I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Maybe it's not in the microphone, maybe it's in your head.

Speaker 2:

It could be in my noggin, it's not in the microphone. Maybe, it's in your head. So yeah, bugs are getting bigger, that's awesome, check it out.

Speaker 1:

I say feed them, get them bigger Feed them.

Speaker 2:

What, though Humans? And then Cassidy sent me a picture of a bug eating. It looked like it was eating the shell of something. I can't remember what it was, but it looked like it was a bug eating a crab leg, Because you know, crab legs, that's what it looked like. I can't think of what bug that was. She had a giant jumping spider in her world too.

Speaker 1:

Those are pretty cool. Yeah, I thought it was a sea monkey at first, because it looked like it was underwater and I'm like is that a sea monkey?

Speaker 2:

Because it had a little face.

Speaker 1:

You know, they have a little face.

Speaker 2:

But it's not a face, it's just a trick. Humans.

Speaker 1:

What do you think is going on there with those bugs, with the bugs? I mean do they think and feel?

Speaker 2:

Well, they feel.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, do they?

Speaker 2:

think or is it instinctual? Instinctual we like to think that things don't think because we're thinkers.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I think everything thinks in some way. All right, now all some scientists have you read Charlotte's Web. You guys are out of your mind.

Speaker 2:

The scientists.

Speaker 1:

I think they would agree with that I don't know, maybe they would, but all the stuff that we think we know. You know what I mean. I mean we could look in 50 years. Well, I'll be dead.

Speaker 2:

Me too Same Okay.

Speaker 1:

If we could look back, we'll be like, oh my God, we actually thought that way, or we believe that.

Speaker 2:

Okay, go back five years to the beginning of COVID, the things that we thought because we didn't know, not because we didn't think it through or because we were jumping to conclusions. It's like here's the knowledge you have, here's what I think, based on that knowledge. Well, now our knowledge is larger.

Speaker 1:

We did not know that, we did not know all of that you could mainline Clorox and it would kill the virus.

Speaker 2:

Now we know.

Speaker 1:

You could shoot sunlight up your butt and it would cure things.

Speaker 2:

I didn't know that. I didn't know that. I still don't know that, because I believe in science. I believe in science, I believe in the sun. I believe in the sun too, but the sun is science.

Speaker 1:

The sun's getting hotter.

Speaker 2:

That's a thing.

Speaker 1:

Or I'm getting older Well, that too I am too, but that sun is not the same sun I saw when I was a kid, it's fucking brutal.

Speaker 2:

It is In weird places too, I just saw something about in Arizona, the Serino. I think I'm saying it close anyway. The Serino cactuses are dying because it's too fucking hot in the desert.

Speaker 1:

So let's not believe in climate change.

Speaker 2:

I mean, it's not funny, but you know, if cacti are having problems, it's probably hot.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I can see the argument that the earth is doing what it's going to do. You know what I mean, and it can be.

Speaker 2:

We're here in such a blip, and so Well, I definitely think that it's going to happen no matter what. But I think we as humans, especially now, especially in the past hundred years, have escalated it and made it happen quicker, quicker, quicker.

Speaker 1:

Well, sure, you know cavemen.

Speaker 2:

before the industrial age, people weren't really messing around with the climate, I mean they were a little bit by burning wood and whatever, but think of all the climate Right. I mean they were a little bit by burning wood and whatever but Think of all the garbage. But once the industrial age happened.

Speaker 1:

Well, you got cell phones and cars out of it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, there's some good for sure, Well not who cares, but you know. I don't know.

Speaker 1:

That's not the oh, there's a dragonfly. There he goes.

Speaker 2:

He was knocking out the window and took off.

Speaker 1:

It wasn't a very pretty one, though. What else you got there?

Speaker 2:

Now it's going to come back.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I shouldn't say that how pretty Bugs.

Speaker 2:

Okay, so I just want. Another thing I wanted to mention was people are really passionate about their pickles.

Speaker 1:

Hey, didn't we do an episode about that?

Speaker 2:

We did and that's how I know.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

And we did say that on the podcast too Passionate pickle. That's kind of a tongue twister, but I also wanted to mention that Dill Pickle V8 makes a drink called Dill Pickle Bloody Mary.

Speaker 1:

That sounds delicious. And it is delicious, if you like, bloody Marys called Dill Pickle Bloody Mary. That sounds delicious.

Speaker 2:

And it is delicious, if you like, bloody Marys and Dill Pickles.

Speaker 1:

I do, but I don't, well, I do.

Speaker 2:

But you don't have to put alcohol in it in a Bloody Mary.

Speaker 1:

But I was drinking. I craved that stuff more Like tomato-y salty Tomato yeah.

Speaker 2:

This comes from your grandma with whiskey.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

She's putting salt in her beer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, legend. I don't know why I used to do that.

Speaker 2:

Did you. Why do you do that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know. It tastes good. Oh, I'm not kidding. You put a little salt in the foam of your beer. Look at the look on your face. Oh, you know, I bought some beer yesterday, some fake beer, fake beer. Some Corona.

Speaker 2:

Corona Fo Corona.

Speaker 1:

Everybody's making the fake beer now.

Speaker 2:

They are. It's a big thing, so kids can drink.

Speaker 1:

I don't know Probably they still card you.

Speaker 2:

Really yeah, why.

Speaker 1:

Oh, first of all, they shouldn't card me. Obviously I look like I got beat with the ugly stick from an old person, but no, they card you because it's still classified as alcohol.

Speaker 2:

But that's the whole thing. There's no alcohol in it, so Jovi can't go into Meijer and buy fake beer.

Speaker 1:

I mean, she might have a fake ID. No, she's pretty responsible.

Speaker 2:

But yeah, you can't. Well, that doesn't seem right.

Speaker 1:

That you can't buy A kid, can't drink fake beer.

Speaker 2:

I know what's the world coming to. Huh Well, my thought is why make fake beer if people get carded to buy it? True, Isn't that the whole purpose of fake?

Speaker 1:

beers. I don't know. I don't even know why I buy fake beer.

Speaker 2:

Did you?

Speaker 1:

drink it? Well, not this one, but I've drank. Yeah, stella makes a really good one. Stella Atwood yeah, that's very good. Heineken is as skunky as ever when you have the NA, but now it's summertime for the lies coming out, so you think beer would sound good. They do sometimes. Sometimes a beer sounds good Ice cold.

Speaker 2:

Gotta be ice cold in the summer.

Speaker 1:

Nothing can compare with vodka, though. With vodka oh my god, that was my favorite.

Speaker 2:

Vodka was your favorite. I like gin. I used to drink it.

Speaker 1:

Oh, that's right, you're a ginner.

Speaker 2:

I'm a ginner.

Speaker 1:

That's nice and fresh.

Speaker 2:

It is a refreshing summer drink.

Speaker 1:

What do you mix with it?

Speaker 2:

G&T tonic If it's the right gin.

Speaker 1:

Nothing.

Speaker 2:

No, you've got to have something. You've got to have a little splash, splash of tonic and some lime. I haven't drank since I was on vacation. Maybe I need to go on vacation again.

Speaker 1:

Well, tonight, when you're gnawing on some bison meat, guzzling booze, what are you doing for the 4th? Oh, you have a family over.

Speaker 2:

We have people over, but for the 4th nothing. For the 3rd we are going to we're actually going to a family memorial service for somebody.

Speaker 1:

Not a service.

Speaker 2:

It's just like a get-together in honor of Celeste Phillips, who was a lovely person. She was a great person, so we will go honor her.

Speaker 1:

That's a great name, celeste.

Speaker 2:

Remember the Babar books with the elephant Babar.

Speaker 1:

Oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, his wife's name was Celeste. Oh, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

Man, you got all the information.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's enough. Elephants can be another one too.

Speaker 1:

You get to see the fireworks right there from your place, yeah we can see them.

Speaker 2:

We just have to walk down to the shore a little bit. I might go down to my neighbor's she's around the corner. Well, if you get bored on that, what are you doing on the?

Speaker 1:

5th.

Speaker 2:

Nothing.

Speaker 1:

Family stuff probably.

Speaker 2:

Probably. I mean we'll still have Jenna and Mike will be home, but we're just going to hang out. Oh, the 5th is Saturday, and then Cassidy's coming over With Doug.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, the 5 Saturday. Then Cassidy's coming over. Oh, okay With Doug. Yeah, the fifth will be. I think that's the Grand Lake fireworks.

Speaker 2:

Well, I'm glad they spaced it out like that.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if they did it on purpose. We don't need the time ones, but we'll be at the cottage Well can you see them from your house? What the fireworks? Yeah, but we won't be here oh you're going to, of the cottage. And then I like the Grand Lake ones because they're right across the lake, far enough away you can see them with a bunch of humans. I've got to give people more credit. I thought I was going to do that.

Speaker 2:

First they have to prove they are worthy of the credit.

Speaker 1:

I don't know, maybe that's my thing. I should just accept people right off the bat, don't they fucking disappoint you. I almost got T-Bone, if you have low, low priorities.

Speaker 2:

You will never.

Speaker 1:

The same intersection that I can't describe. The day before yesterday stopped at the light there, my lovely bride's with me, white truck behind me. I always, no matter what, because I had too many close calls downstate, I always look, look, look and look, exactly, yep.

Speaker 1:

I did that. The light changed green. I look, look, look, look. I pull out and a car is racing toward me. I slam on the brakes and it just goes right around me, you know. And then it keeps going and I get that rage, you know sometimes. Did you follow him? Yeah, I turned right away and went after him.

Speaker 2:

Brooke's like what are you doing, what are you going to do? And then I'm like what am I doing?

Speaker 1:

Right away I thought I got kids and it was a kid in the car. I'm like what am I? I just followed him for a block and scared him a little bit. Yeah, so, mister, if you're listening, mister what was he driving? A Buick Enclave.

Speaker 2:

I believe it was Okay, yep, what's his license?

Speaker 1:

number. It was probably a 2018. I actually I won't say that. Anyhow, they're going to do some 21-gun salute out there. I see him lining up. Somebody, a veteran, must have passed away.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the funeral home is right across the street.

Speaker 1:

Sorry, I probably should clarify Are they really lining?

Speaker 2:

up. Yeah, I see them.

Speaker 1:

There's not going to be any guys out there to do that. You're going to have to do it.

Speaker 2:

To do the.

Speaker 1:

Shooting.

Speaker 2:

The shooting.

Speaker 1:

Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2:

We used to maybe it was on 4th of July, actually, I remember on New Year's Eve my dad would let us. We were out at the cottage away from people, but he'd let us all shoot one time in the air with a rifle. That's pretty cool. I don't even know what it was. It wasn't a handgun, it was a hunting rifle.

Speaker 1:

A boom, boom stick.

Speaker 2:

So we'd all shoot one time.

Speaker 1:

That's cool. Speaking of the 4th, that obviously is a good memory for you. What are some of your fond memories about your own 4th of July?

Speaker 2:

About 4th of July.

Speaker 1:

Not nothing, not anything.

Speaker 2:

I guess not Nothing comes to mind.

Speaker 1:

Neither, huh, I do remember. Sometimes if we didn't go to watch the fireworks from out in the ridge, you could actually see them from our house yeah. They'd come up over the horizon. The trees were lower in that God, I don't remember, I don't know.

Speaker 2:

I used to. When I lived in town I used to walk down to the fireworks. It was kind of a big deal, but I'm not a huge fireworks fan.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

I think you know if you like them, you like them. Good for you. I think there are pollution in the air pollution on the ground. People lose limbs, lives.

Speaker 1:

Well, on that note, I bought some yesterday. Oh, did you yeah.

Speaker 2:

Alright. Let's see how many fingers you have today, and then we'll count them again.

Speaker 1:

No, Jovi lights them off for us.

Speaker 2:

Alright, count her fingers.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, we were at the dentist yesterday for her Thunder Bay Family Dentistry. Thank you, Jack Beal and your staff. You're great as always.

Speaker 2:

I go to them as well.

Speaker 1:

I love them. They're so happy. They're nice people.

Speaker 2:

I know they're just happy to be there.

Speaker 1:

So then we decided let's go to the fireworks things across the street, and then Trailer. Yep Got some, not too many.

Speaker 2:

Now, what are the names of the things you?

Speaker 1:

got, there goes my father-in-law what?

Speaker 2:

What are the names? Because he always has the bee's knees, okay, the bumblebee, I got two bee ones. Like the what does it?

Speaker 1:

do God, I got something, oh, I can't remember, but it's a big one and it lasts for two minutes.

Speaker 2:

Wow, yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

Now are.

Speaker 2:

Go to the end of the dock? No, why?

Speaker 1:

We do it right on the shore. I put a board out and then pollute the water that way.

Speaker 2:

All right, good job. We're really lucky because we have water all around us and if something goes amiss, you have water available.

Speaker 1:

You've got the best spot to shoot fireworks.

Speaker 2:

Well, that's where they shoot the fireworks in the bay.

Speaker 2:

I mean not right next to next to you should get a barge go out there I think that's one thing I don't really need some gin and like shit on fire um one year we were in our boat watching the fireworks you have a boat yeah, just a small one fishing boat, and, um, that was kind of cool to see that that way. In fact, though, that was the one year that they were lighting them off near shore. It was on a barge, but the barge was like near the shore and one went, we could tell one went wrong. It went off on the ground.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, didn't the dude get hurt?

Speaker 2:

I think he might have died. I don't know, I can't remember. Sorry, buddy. But then they just went on with the show. After a while we're like oh, I guess that's the end of it. Somebody died. No, it's not.

Speaker 1:

Keep them going. Death cannot stop fireworks there they go.

Speaker 2:

Can you hear that? Hear it One more Can you hear that. Hear it.

Speaker 1:

One more. Oh, they'll keep going. No, that's it 21?

Speaker 2:

Was that 21? They just did three.

Speaker 1:

Oh, there's seven of them shooting.

Speaker 2:

Maybe there's seven of them, never mind. So they shot three times.

Speaker 1:

Seven times three is 21? Yeah, thanks to all our service folks. Yeah. By the way, I feel bad that here we are blabbing and someone's celebrating.

Speaker 2:

You know who else died is Red Wings.

Speaker 1:

Blackbird.

Speaker 2:

No Red Wings. Legendary Red Wings guy, alex DeVecchi Sure, I'm going to get his name wrong. I've got to look it up. He was 93. And so they're showing clips of the Red Wings and nobody has a helmet on or anything they're just skating and killing each other. Alex Delvecchio.

Speaker 1:

That's a great name.

Speaker 2:

Isn't that a great name.

Speaker 1:

Delvecchio, like Al DeVecchio. Alex Delvecchio, that's a great name, isn't that a great name? Delvecchio, like Al.

Speaker 2:

Delvecchio, alex Delvecchio.

Speaker 1:

Al Delvecchio was on Happy Days, not Al.

Speaker 2:

Was that Big? Al Yep yep yep, yep, yep, well, well, well, well, well. He stole his name from Alex Delvecchio, who, as many great Red Wings players, was born in Canada, was born in.

Speaker 1:

Canada.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, which happy Canada Day yesterday to everybody, happy Canada Day. Wish.

Speaker 1:

I was there. We can still go.

Speaker 2:

Well, okay, here's the plan. We're going to morph Michigan into Canada, I think so. Don't tell anybody.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

It's just going to happen, and then, after it's done, then we'll tell everybody.

Speaker 1:

I got you.

Speaker 2:

So let's work on that, people.

Speaker 1:

The UP's already started, I think.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they would go in a heartbeat.

Speaker 1:

Would they?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, they would All right. So if you guys can think of anything else that we need to follow up on, we kind of just blabbed the whole time.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But we do have something that we need Our listeners helps, helps, helps.

Speaker 1:

Listener.

Speaker 2:

A listener helps.

Speaker 1:

We have one listener.

Speaker 2:

No, we have two, brooke and Cassidy Yep. So should we do a podcast on? Here Are your Choices, number one Number one. What is it? Chickens.

Speaker 1:

Number one. Number one what is it? Chickens.

Speaker 2:

Chickens People do love their chickens.

Speaker 1:

Cluck, yeah, we should.

Speaker 2:

We'll probably do a chicken one regardless, but let me know about chickens. Oh okay, here's another suggestion.

Speaker 1:

Number two.

Speaker 2:

Number two.

Speaker 1:

Emo Not Elmo Emo music.

Speaker 2:

Emo music Like my Chemical.

Speaker 1:

Romance Okay. Isn, you guys know, not Elmo emo music like my Chemical Romance okay isn't that one of them?

Speaker 2:

I don't know. That's why I would like to do that, because I don't know.

Speaker 1:

So we'd have to research. They scream like I like that because they're emotional a radio station, son of a bitch. I'm blanking out alternative. What the hell is it called Alt Nation?

Speaker 2:

no, Lithium geez in alternative. What the hell is it called alt nation? No, lithium, lithium jeez in october what is that?

Speaker 1:

well, no, they do. They do a screamo emo in october, oh fun, yeah, I think like isn't blink 182 and I don't know, it's like punk, but modern. Maybe we'll figure it out. We'll figure it out what's number three?

Speaker 2:

punk. So it was kind of on the same line. Two music bands.

Speaker 1:

Maybe we could put it together Emo and punk. I don't know Emo and punk. I don't think so Because Brooke, my wife's a punker. Is she a punk rocker, a punk rocker?

Speaker 2:

She's a punk rock girl. She likes punk, like the Ramones. Yeah, who's your favorite punk band?

Speaker 1:

Don't ask me Johnny Rotten or something I don't know.

Speaker 2:

He's in the Sex Pistols. That too, mm-hmm.

Speaker 1:

I wonder if that Never mind Well we could.

Speaker 2:

There's things I don't know We'll find out, she likes Sum 41. They're punk.

Speaker 1:

Are they punk? I would say so Okay.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1:

I like Rise Against. They're kind of punk.

Speaker 2:

They. I love Iggy.

Speaker 1:

He's got a song called Punk Rock Baby or Punk Rocker I'm a punk rocker no, that's the Ramones.

Speaker 2:

No. Maybe he redid it Maybe I do love Iggy.

Speaker 1:

He's from Michigan.

Speaker 2:

There's no way he could be a dick. Although he probably was a dick and somebody.

Speaker 1:

He kind of has to be.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I've heard he kind of was when he was doing his punk rock shows, you know, like real slimy punk Slimy punk Like grimy punk yeah. He would spit on his hand and then shake your hand.

Speaker 1:

It's punk. It's just showing people, man, it's punk, man, put it right out there.

Speaker 2:

It's punk and he has the hottest body in the world and he turns around and it's like whoa, it's icky, yeah, All right, here's another one totally off of those topics Scientology.

Speaker 1:

So that's an option, tom Cruise is one of his favorite snacks when he goes to the movies. He'll sneak in the back of the theater sometimes and go with his friends or family.

Speaker 2:

To Mission Impossible 101.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, probably I want to see the latest one.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just read a fact. Sorry to interrupt.

Speaker 1:

No, you're good I do to see the latest one.

Speaker 2:

Well, I just read a fact Sorry to interrupt no, you're good, I do to you all the time. I read a fact that Tom Cruise started the Mission Impossible franchise when he was 30. He's 63.

Speaker 1:

The dude's in great shape.

Speaker 2:

He is in great shape.

Speaker 1:

Maybe in.

Speaker 2:

Scientology.

Speaker 1:

He could be, and he seems like a genuinely nice dude.

Speaker 2:

What's he doing in Scientology?

Speaker 1:

I don't know.

Speaker 2:

What's he doing in Scientology? I don't know. Maybe that's why, maybe I kind of think he might be a cyborg. He could be, but I know that we will find out.

Speaker 1:

When he's in a movie theater, his favorite snack is because he says that they let me have certain things, whatever that means Maybe it's the Scientologists, Anyway, popcorn with licorice in it.

Speaker 2:

Bits of licorice in his pocket, like black licorice. I don't know, I didn't ask him, I don't like licorice.

Speaker 1:

So what's your favorite? I love popcorn. Oh who doesn't? Do you ever buy those big-ass bags on the top shelf at Meijer? They're big, huge yellow popcorn Buttery. Oh my God.

Speaker 2:

No, but I need a movie fix pretty soon to get the. I don't care what I see go see jurassic park I was thinking about that you should uh, I like scarlett johansson she's in it yeah, I read a review for it. It's like can we kill the dinosaurs already? You can't no, you can't. Maybe they're the new bug, maybe they're the bug I bet you we're gonna go back to all that.

Speaker 2:

And you know, yeah, you bring them back, and they're starting to bring back things like on the first jur, back to all that. And you know, yeah, you bring them back, and they're starting to bring back things Like on the first Jurassic Park. That's how it happened. You know they had a little DNA and they brought it back. Oh yeah, they're doing it. They're doing it. They brought back something that was extinct.

Speaker 1:

Sasquatch.

Speaker 2:

Maybe an no, that's still a thing. In Australia they brought back some I don't know it's not a dingo, but I wish it was. The dingo ate your baby. So Scientology is where that started.

Speaker 1:

What's your favorite Tom Cruise movie?

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's a good question, because although I say I'm not a big tom cruise fan, I do usually like his movies. Okay, um, I really liked rain man when it came oh shit, that was a good one, a really good one, the other 400 oak street, cleveland, ohio.

Speaker 1:

look at we're both rocking back and forth.

Speaker 2:

We are no, no shame intended.

Speaker 1:

Risky business.

Speaker 2:

I mean for its time, I suppose it was good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know you didn't like Top Gun.

Speaker 2:

Again for its time. It was good.

Speaker 1:

Days of Thunder.

Speaker 2:

I haven't seen that one and I keep meaning to watch it. It comes up every now and then on a movie channel. I'm like I should really watch that one day. Magnolia, magnolia, are you?

Speaker 1:

fucking kidding me right now. I know I've mentioned it before and I can't believe you watched it watch that movie. It's got john c reilly on it, it's got oh, I like him it's got tom cruise, it is it's long yeah, I, you better devote some time, I'm okay.

Speaker 2:

Lots of popcorn. I got time.

Speaker 1:

That is one of my favorites. I thought that would be my favorite. You know what?

Speaker 2:

my favorite role that Tom Cruise plays is in Tropic Thunder. Oh, like the first time I watched it, I didn't even know it was him, jerry McQuire. Like the first time I watched it, I didn't even know, it was him, jerry Maguire. I would say yeah, I like that.

Speaker 1:

Show me the money. What happened to that boy? The little boy Dogs and bees smell fear or whatever. It is the human head weighs eight pounds.

Speaker 2:

He's in a gang now, is he?

Speaker 1:

I don't know Got regurgitated through the porn industry.

Speaker 2:

I don't know Whatever happened to him. That could be a podcast Whatever happened to him.

Speaker 1:

Anyway, how are you doing it? What do we have?

Speaker 2:

Number five we have two more to pick from Four Elephants.

Speaker 1:

Elephants.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Okay.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to guess no on your part.

Speaker 1:

I like elephants. Yeah, I mean I feel bad.

Speaker 2:

For elephants I do too, Because they feel they do, they do? They do.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you see videos where they're asking for help. They are more human than some humans, I know. And we treat them like dog shit. Not all of us. No not all of them.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the babies. Oh my God, the babies are so cute. And the last one is I don't know, maybe people don't know who she is. You didn't know, I don't know. Eva Peron.

Speaker 1:

Well, I did after you said it, because she's the president. What the movie Evita.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, that's what that's based on. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Madonna.

Speaker 2:

Madonna was in it. Yeah, madonna, madonna was in it. Yeah, cassidy and I went and saw that play. I think we were in London. Don't cry for me, argentina.

Speaker 1:

Was it good? Yeah, it was. Was Madonna in it? No, what is she doing? Is she in Scientologist?

Speaker 2:

No, probably not. No, I think she was like a Buddha or something.

Speaker 1:

I don't know who would win in a madonna madonna or scarlett johansson.

Speaker 2:

Oh, scarlet, she's too nice, probably scarlet. Yeah, I don't think she would you ever see lucy?

Speaker 1:

lucy scarlett johansson played the character lucy.

Speaker 2:

It's a movie called lucy uh she's like a badass oh, I don't think I've seen that one. What's the one where she? It's so weird and gross? I read the book too. She's like an alien she collects the skin of people.

Speaker 1:

What.

Speaker 2:

And what are they making? They're making something out of it. Wait, am I talking about the same movie? Is it coats? I don't know, I. And what are they making? They're making something out of it. Wait, am I talking?

Speaker 1:

about the same movie.

Speaker 2:

Is it Coats, I don't know, I can't remember? Like Car Seats, I don't know. Sounds cool, though it was a really weird movie.

Speaker 1:

Weird, I'll have to look up the name of it. So Elephants.

Speaker 2:

And then Eva Peron, aka Evita.

Speaker 1:

Evita. So voice your opinion. Don't we have another one? Oh, we don't. Scientology, no.

Speaker 2:

Scientology that's a lot. Voice your opinion at Hero or Dick 2023 at gmailcom.

Speaker 1:

Do that.

Speaker 2:

And we will choose one of those, if not for the next podcast, for a soon-to-be podcast, because I think we have our topic for the next one.

Speaker 1:

if I do any research, I don't know you probably could have did that by the seat of your pants I could have.

Speaker 2:

This morning I went huh, I did not. I, I knew it was coming, I just was like get like that but I like procrastinating, I'm glad we keep doing this, even if we're just fucking around today if nobody's listening.

Speaker 1:

Yes, um, we'll continue to do it. We gotta think of something, though we have all these ideas we we keep doing this, even if we're just fucking around today, even if nobody's listening.

Speaker 2:

Yes, we'll continue to do it.

Speaker 1:

We've got to think of something, though we have all these ideas we don't follow through with.

Speaker 2:

You know what we need Website merch. We need swag. We need some merch. We'll work on that. Let's make that. I'm going to put that at the top of our list. Right now I'm writing it. Can that happen?

Speaker 1:

S-W-A-G-E.

Speaker 2:

S-W-A-G-E.

Speaker 1:

That's swage.

Speaker 2:

And then we're going to have a little contest.

Speaker 1:

Are we?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, for our two viewers to see who emails us first, or something.

Speaker 1:

You know, what we should do is see if we can do this somewhere.

Speaker 2:

Somewhere we need to go on the road.

Speaker 1:

Even if it's just here, maybe the winery Go sit in the winery and do a podcast.

Speaker 2:

Okay, let's think on that.

Speaker 1:

Or the kiosk.

Speaker 2:

We could go down to the kiosk I don't know.

Speaker 1:

There, though, Anyway, if people have an idea for that, yeah yeah, the wheels are turning. We've got to get some guests, real ones maybe. Yeah, we don't have to.

Speaker 2:

For chickens. I know lots of chicken ladies.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, what's her name again?

Speaker 2:

Well, my niece Emily has chickens, and then my friend Lori has chickens too.

Speaker 1:

Maybe we can dial them up.

Speaker 2:

Yes, yeah, we could call them.

Speaker 1:

Do they live here?

Speaker 2:

No, neither one of them do.

Speaker 1:

Where do they live?

Speaker 2:

One lives in West Olive, which is near Holland, and one lives in Funky Ferndale that, which is near Holland, and one lives in Funky Ferndale. That's too far to drive. Well, she might be here, though, next week, so I'll check with her and see if she'll do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I like it Okay.

Speaker 2:

All right, well, I hope we didn't lose anybody. We didn't gain anybody, but we didn't lose you. It doesn't matter, all right.

Speaker 1:

All right, thanks, bye.

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