Hero or Dick - S3., Ep. 16 - Ducks: From Corkscrews to Cultural Icons

Ever wondered what's really going on beneath the surface of that seemingly innocent duck paddling across your local pond? Prepare to have your perceptions forever altered as Kate and KJ dive headfirst into the fascinating and occasionally shocking world of ducks.

Join us for another episode as we determine whether ducks ultimately deserve the title of Hero or Dick!

Thanks for listening!

~ Kate & KJ

Transcript

Podcast Introduction and Listener Feedback

Speaker 1 0:02

Hi, kate, hi, how are you Good?

Speaker 2 0:05

Hi KJ.

Speaker 1 0:05

Welcome, dear listeners, to another episode of Heroic.

Speaker 2 0:12

Yeah.

Speaker 1 0:12

Yay, when are we at Kate? What is it? Episode.

Speaker 2 0:14

It's season three, episode 16.

Speaker 1 0:16

It is.

Speaker 2 0:17

It is.

Speaker 1 0:18

Three glorious seasons.

Speaker 2 0:22

That's a lot.

Speaker 1 0:23

Speaking of seasons, and I have to be careful because we've had some viewer mail and comments that I've got to get to. But I've got to be careful not to follow my synapses sometimes and jump from topic to topic because there are a few viewers, such as Nobody views us.

Speaker 1 0:44

I mean listener Dorothy, a listener from southeastern Michigan who sent a comment that said that one of us, being me, should find a different line of work, because I can't stay on topic and I jump all over and I'm not prepared. I don't see that. But I have to say to Dorothy go fuck yourself. I'm just kidding. No, I appreciate the feedback, but this isn't my job. I don't really care. We do it for fun.

Speaker 1 1:17

We do it for fun, and the reason my brain jumps around is because I don't get a chance to this is where you can we talk. This is Kate and I. This is our therapy session.

Speaker 2 1:25

We're having a wrap session.

Speaker 1 1:27

Yeah, and you know it's funny, because how did we come about doing this?

Speaker 2 1:32

Well, let's see how did we come about, so I will give credit where credit is due Jenna, my Jenna and my daughter Jenna.

Speaker 1 1:44

Hi Jenna, it's your Jenna.

Speaker 2 1:46

And I were talking about stuff years ago and we said, oh, that would be fun to have a show. And you talk about things or people and decide if they're a hero or a dick, Because a lot of people and things that you think are heroes are not. So thank you, Jenna, for giving us the idea.

Speaker 1 2:10

Yeah, jenna thanks.

Speaker 2 2:11

And then we're like we're going to do a podcast and then we didn't. And you know she's in Grand Rapids, I'm here, and so sometimes just proximity of it. And so you and I met up at a mutual friend's kids' graduation party.

Speaker 1 2:26

Oh yes, we did.

Speaker 2 2:27

Thank you mutual friends, thank you, mutual friends and I was telling you about it, and then we got together because you were telling me about crypto. I need to learn about crypto which. I still don't know about crypto.

Speaker 1 2:41

Well, you're in it, though you rolled up in a Bentley today. So I think she must be going okay, gmc Bentley. Gmc Bentley. No, and one of the reasons that it was always on my mind is because I always had friends that said hey, yeah, let's do it, and so I always got geeked about doing it, but nobody would ever do that.

Speaker 2 2:57

Nobody does that. And then, when we us knew, but you figured it out, it's easy, so good for you.

Speaker 1 3:06

And then another viewer I mean another audience member, daniel from Oregon. He has sets here. Danny, yeah, I really appreciate your podcast. Kate does a fantastic job. Kj doesn't know what he's doing. I like when you guys talk about music, kudos, especially on the Rush podcast. People do love Rush. So there you go, I think.

Speaker 2 3:33

Rush.

Speaker 1 3:34

But I'm getting beat to hell and that's okay. Where are you getting?

Speaker 2 3:37

beat to hell.

Duck Biology and Classifications

Speaker 1 3:38

Well, all these letters we're getting, but anyway, today is one of and it's not really a favorite topic. I do like ducks.

Speaker 2 3:47

Ducks is our topic. Ducks Because now, let's say, we're still going to do chickens, but our chicken experts are having some issues. You know we can't get them.

Speaker 1 4:00

Oh, I'm jumping back though Seasonal. We were talking about seasonal.

Speaker 2 4:03

Oh, seasonal, yeah, we have some seasonal beverages.

Speaker 1 4:06

We do what's mine called. I'm going to lie, mine's not seasonal. Oh, mine is. I don't think it is Kate's drinking a white pumpkin, ah it's delicious White pumpkin.

Speaker 2 4:18

I don't know why it's white.

Speaker 1 4:19

Because there's white chocolate in it.

Speaker 2 4:20

Oh, maybe there's green, because there's white chocolate in it, oh okay, mine's the spotted owl. Okay, what is that? What's in the?

Speaker 1 4:26

nut? I don't remember, but I know I like it. Owl pee I know there's caffeine in it. Man, the buzz is here. I'm going to ignore it though.

Speaker 2 4:33

It's not even happening.

Speaker 1 4:35

Okay, so ducks, they belong to the Anitidae family, along geese and swans.

Speaker 2 4:44

Yes, I want to give you something too.

Speaker 1 4:47

What is it? Oh, look at that. She's presenting to me a miniature rubber duck, ducky yeah, which is later in the podcast. It does, it squeaks. Thank you, man, I never give you anything.

Speaker 2 5:02

Well, I got you coffee, you got me coffee, I give you ducks.

Speaker 1 5:05

So this could be our new mascot.

Speaker 2 5:07

The little mini ducks. Oh, that was a good squeaking All right, buddy, we'll figure it out.

Speaker 1 5:12

Oh, there you go. If you have an idea for a name for the duck there, daniel and Dorothy, yeah, Give us some duck names, Well you already have the email address and my phone number because you keep leaving prank calls. But it's heroordick2023 at gmailcom.

Speaker 2 5:27

Dot com, give us a duck name.

Speaker 1 5:30

A duck name, please it can rhyme with duck. Yeah, it can be Okay. Fossil evidence shows that duck-like birds have existed for 50 million years.

Speaker 2 5:40

Wow, so are they kind of dinosaurs.

Speaker 1 5:44

They sure sound like it. Well, what's that thing with the? Oh, that's a platypus. Platypus, never mind, that's a different topic. The mallard is the ancestor of most domesticated ducks.

Speaker 2 5:55

Okay.

Speaker 1 5:55

And so they said that ducks were domesticated in China more than 30. 2,000 years ago, obviously. I see that For food Yep Meat eggs P. I see that.

Speaker 2 6:06

For food Meat, eggs feathers Love the feathers. Oh yeah, use the feathers. Every continent except Antarctica has ducks on it.

Speaker 1 6:14

Why doesn't Antarctica have ducks? I bet you did at one time.

Speaker 2 6:18

Maybe it wasn't even a continent. There's three kinds of ducks that I found Dabbling ducks I love that.

Speaker 1 6:29

That's the mallard, the wood.

Speaker 2 6:31

Yep Teal pintail. Teal pintail they feed on the surface.

Speaker 1 6:34

What's a widgeon?

Speaker 2 6:35

I'm not sure.

Speaker 1 6:36

I think it's a pigeon and a gadwell.

Speaker 2 6:38

And then there's diving ducks which they forage underwater Canvas bag, bufflehead, redhead, ringtail ducks.

Speaker 1 6:48

Yeah, that's the last kind, or is that?

Speaker 2 6:50

a diving duck. Those are diving.

Speaker 1 6:52

What's the other type?

Speaker 2 6:54

Dabbling, diving and then tree ducks.

Speaker 1 6:57

They nest in trees. I thought there was only one. I thought the wood duck is the only one that did that.

Speaker 2 7:00

The wood duck nests in trees. So does the whistling.

Speaker 1 7:06

Oh, you know what? You went worldwide, I guess.

Speaker 2 7:08

And the black belly whistling.

Speaker 1 7:10

I went US only.

Speaker 2 7:13

Oh yeah, I'm international.

Speaker 1 7:14

I'm trying to make ducks great again by focusing only on the United States of America.

Speaker 2 7:20

I know that we live in an international world.

Speaker 1 7:23

We don't.

Speaker 2 7:23

Kate, and we'll not look at US only.

Speaker 1 7:28

Wait till I start bringing my ducks from other states into other states to protect people.

Speaker 2 7:33

To protect ducks.

Speaker 1 7:36

All right, sorry about that. I like that, though. Dabbling ducks, diving ducks, and Tree ducks, tree ducks, tree, hmm, mm-hmm, they're omnivores, by the way.

Speaker 2 7:45

Omnivores. They'll eat whatever.

Speaker 1 7:47

They don't care Plants insects, crustaceans, fish, frogs, even small mammals or birds. Wow, they're opportunistic.

Speaker 2 7:53

I've never really seen a duck chow down on a mouse.

Speaker 1 7:58

They do. I mean they will If they're in the water and they're chilling out with their bros or their hoes. Oh wait, female Whatever. That's a whole topic too, coming up with the male-female thing, oh my gosh.

Speaker 2 8:12

So if a mouse is swimming alone? I don't know how much you know about this, but it was quite shocking, horrible.

Speaker 1 8:18

Some of those ducks should be put in jail. They're rapists. They're rapist ducks. They're rapists. They're rapists. They say forced copulation, but it's rape, duck rape. It's duck rape, fucking duck rape man.

Speaker 2 8:27

Should we talk about that right?

Speaker 1 8:29

now I guess it makes me uncomfortable, so you take it.

Speaker 2 8:30

I want to tell you this was the most shocking thing I found about ducks Was that their genitalia is corkscrew shaped. Oh God and I know we don't like to get into a lot- of you know sexual stuff, but what corkscrew shape. And it can be as long as their body and it can be regrown every year. Why do you need to regrow?

Speaker 1 9:02

it? Well, because it's a corkscrew dick and it gets stuck.

Speaker 2 9:03

Yes, it gets stuck. Here's the whole thing, how can?

Speaker 1 9:06

and I know.

Speaker 2 9:07

And one more thing about the genitalia. Oh shit, it can unfurl in the fraction of a second.

Speaker 1 9:14

Kate's true colors are coming through here. Fraction of a second people.

Speaker 2 9:17

I'm glad I've never seen that and I hope to never see that.

Speaker 1 9:21

And I'm assuming that I don't even think humans have sex for fun anymore after you hit a certain age. But, like, the animals don't typically get joy out of it, and there's no joy for either one of this. Well, no, because you're sticking your private into another private.

Speaker 2 9:35

Your corkscrew private.

Speaker 1 9:37

And it's getting stuck, breaks off or whatever. I suppose every year I don't know what's going on. But yeah, when I read about the forced copulation and then the corkscrew peckle.

Speaker 2 9:44

But then the females they're like fine, here's what we're going to do. Here we go. We have a complex, maze-like vagina.

Speaker 1 9:54

They don't want no scrubs.

Speaker 2 9:57

Or corkscrews and they have dead-end pockets where they store the sperm from the dudes and then they just keep the sperm that they approve of, I'm sorry and then they get rid of the sperm from the duds. Who knew that ducks had this going on? They look like a cute little duck waddling around.

Speaker 1 10:19

They got a whole other thing happening the duck vagina is a labyrinth and the male thing is a corkscrew. That's fascinating.

Speaker 2 10:29

And scary.

Speaker 1 10:31

I guess they adapted as they had to.

Speaker 2 10:35

Now, this fact now makes sense too. They sleep with one eye open, as Metallica says Holding their pillow tight.

Speaker 1 10:44

Yep, that's great.

Speaker 2 10:45

Because they have to, because they have predators themselves but, other predators too, and so they also have three eyelids, and one is like a clear membrane, like goggles, really yeah.

Speaker 1 11:01

That's awesome so.

Speaker 2 11:01

I suppose the diving ducks need that so they can dive Really. Yeah, that's awesome. So I suppose the diving ducks need that so they can dive, but then they only use, so they sleep with one eye open. They only use half of their brain. Me too, right, dorothy so half of it is sleeping, half of it is looking for predators, half of it is thinking about corkscrew gematelia.

Speaker 1 11:23

It's kind of a cool life, I'm just kidding. It's kind of a cool life, I'm just kidding. It's something that we've noticed. I'm never going to look at a duck the same way you ever notice when you're by the lake or river, like the mallards, the males they're all like hanging out together and then you'll see like a single female all by herself. More often than not you see the males grouped together and not the females. I should have looked into that.

Speaker 2 11:44

I more often than not you see the males group together and not the females.

Speaker 1 11:48

I should have looked into that. I know they don't mate for life. They do not. Huh, geese, do right.

Speaker 2 11:51

I looked up loons too, but they don't. I don't know if geese do.

Speaker 1 11:57

Well, we'll have to get into that next time.

Speaker 2 11:59

So what else about ducks? Their feet don't get cold because of their circulatory system keeps their heat from escaping, so they can swim in the cold water, and they also have waterproof feathers, which again so they can swim in cold water. What's a group of ducks called?

Speaker 1 12:24

Gaggle.

Speaker 2 12:25

No, that's geese.

Speaker 1 12:26

Okay, what is it? A flock? Oh, that makes sense, yeah.

Speaker 2 12:29

If they're walking, they're a waddling group. If they're swimming, the group is called a raft, or if they're in air, they're called a team. Which do we really need that much?

Speaker 1 12:43

No, I don't think the ducks do either. I don't think so. Why do we make it so complicated?

Speaker 2 12:46

I don't know.

Speaker 1 12:47

We're humans that's why 2,000 duck farms Wow In the United States, mainly in Indiana, wisconsin and your former home state California.

Speaker 2 12:59

I did live in California.

Speaker 1 13:00

I remember these things, kate. 95% of the ducks raised for meat are the Peking's duck. Chinese Yep, have you liked duck?

Speaker 2 13:12

So my dad was a big duck hunter. Big duck hunter. We had duck decoys. We actually had a room in our house with decorative duck decoys that we called the duck room that's cool In my mom and dad's house. He was really into it and I hated duck. I mean, they would cook duck and it's like, yeah, I did not care for it.

Speaker 1 13:35

I don't think I've ever had it.

Speaker 2 13:36

However, I have had it since that. It has been really good. I've had it a couple times and we did have it when we went to China. It was delicious and I had it a couple times in a fancy restaurant where it was really really good. But you know, I don't know the ducks that my dad was cooking, too gamey, yeah, greasy. Not greasy, but kind of dry, kind of livery, I don't know, too gamey yeah.

Speaker 1 14:07

I can tell by the look on your face you didn't enjoy it.

Speaker 2 14:09

No, no, did not like them.

Speaker 1 14:11

Duck eggs.

Speaker 2 14:12

Duck eggs.

Speaker 1 14:13

They're supposed to be a little richer and they're better for baking. Yes, they're supposed to be a little richer and they're better for baking.

Speaker 2 14:17

Yes, I had creme brulee that my sister-in-law made with duck eggs and it was delicious Nice, very rich and delicious Because they're a little bit bigger, but I think they're yolkier too. They're like their yolk is richer.

Speaker 1 14:33

What else you got on basics?

Speaker 2 14:35

Oh, ducks, ducks, ducks. So some famous ducks. Yeah, of course. Who's the most famous duck, do you think?

Speaker 1 14:44

Donald.

Speaker 2 14:44

I'm going to say Donald.

Speaker 1 14:45

Then you got Daffy.

Speaker 2 14:47

Well, daffy Duck, sure he's great. With Donald comes his girlfriend Daisy, his twin sister Della.

Speaker 1 14:58

Oh Huey.

Speaker 2 14:58

Louie, Mom to Huey, Dewey and Louie. Oh, and then what's that duck?

Speaker 1 15:02

that's the Scrooge.

Speaker 2 15:03

Scrooge Duck. Scrooge Duck Is that all it is? I can't believe that's his name, yeah.

Speaker 1 15:07

Then there was Howard the Duck.

Famous Ducks in Pop Culture

Speaker 2 15:08

Howard the Duck, disco Duck. How about Affleck Duck?

Speaker 1 15:14

Oh yes.

Speaker 2 15:15

Yeah.

Speaker 1 15:15

Nice Duck, oh yes.

Speaker 2 15:16

Nice job With Godfrey Gilbert, godfrey's voice. I loved him. How about, like? Sitting in front of us is a traditional rubber ducky.

Speaker 1 15:27

Yes.

Speaker 2 15:28

And Ernie on Sesame Street.

Speaker 1 15:32

That was his song.

Speaker 2 15:33

That was his song and his buddy.

Speaker 1 15:34

It was a top 40 hit.

Speaker 2 15:36

It was.

Speaker 1 15:37

And so was what you just mentioned Disco Duck Jim.

Speaker 2 15:40

Hudson sang it. It reached number six on the billboard in 1970. That's impressive. Robert Ducky, I love you, is that?

Speaker 1 15:46

Yeah.

Speaker 2 15:48

Disco Duck.

Speaker 1 15:49

Rick Dees, 1976. Sad, sad. Then there was Kid's Song Six Little Ducks, five Little Ducks. Lots of kids' books too Ugly Duckling.

Speaker 2 15:59

They don't know about the genitalia apparently.

Speaker 1 16:02

No.

Speaker 2 16:02

There's lots of kids' books.

Speaker 1 16:03

Make Way for Ducklings that are about ducks.

Speaker 2 16:04

Lucky Ducky and Drakey Lakey.

Speaker 1 16:08

Oh yeah.

Speaker 2 16:09

And from Henny Penny.

Speaker 1 16:10

There's a.

Speaker 2 16:12

Jemima Puddle Duck.

Speaker 1 16:13

Jemima Puddle Duck.

Speaker 2 16:14

She has her own tales. What? Yeah, it's a kid's book, that's nice. And then a classic. One of my favorite books Make Way for Ducklings by Robert.

Speaker 1 16:23

Malkowski.

Speaker 2 16:25

That's such a good book. Another good kid's book is the Story About Ping, about a duck that lives on the Yangtze River in China. Very good book by Marjorie Flack.

Speaker 1 16:40

There's some creation myths that were pretty cool. Native American stories where a diving duck brings up mud from beneath the water to form the earth. That's awesome.

Speaker 2 16:52

It's more believable than, say, the Bible.

Speaker 1 16:54

Is it Could be, yeah, native Americans, obviously. I say obviously because they're actually in tune with the world. Ducks symbolize survival, obviously, migration and balance. I like ducks. I actually have a little brass-looking duck that I found somewhere at a garage sale or something you know. Sometimes you're walking through and something just speaks to you. That duck spoke to you. No, it did. It said hey.

Speaker 2 17:22

What did it say? Did it say quack?

Speaker 1 17:25

No, only females say quack. Quacks do not echo. That is a myth. People thought it was like I mean they do echo. People said that a quack doesn't echo.

Speaker 2 17:35

Why would it it echo? I don't know, I mean in the right circumstance, people would say.

Speaker 1 17:38

But anyway, the duck is sitting on my fireplace, mantel Is it a lucky duck. I like to think so Once in a while. I give it a little rub, Rub my duck.

Speaker 2 17:47

Rub your duck in that.

Speaker 1 17:49

Rubber ducky, I love you.

Speaker 2 17:51

We did have a kid's game called Lucky Ducks. That is the only one of the only toys. I had to throw it away when Jenna wasn't looking. It was cute. It was like they went around in a circle and you had to pick them up and match the colors. But the whole time I was going whack, whack, whack, whack, whack, I tried putting tape over it Whack, whack, whack whack. I tried no, turning it down. I tried everything.

Speaker 1 18:16

You couldn't put the batteries in, you got a good quack.

Speaker 2 18:18

You couldn't get it going around in the circle without them quacking. And then one day Jenna said Mom, where's my lucky duck game? I'm like huh, I don't know, I knew.

Speaker 1 18:30

You did know.

Speaker 2 18:31

I admitted it to her how long after. Oh, just a little while ago. I'm sure she knew.

Speaker 1 18:39

Back to your dad and the hunting. Did he do his own calls and stuff?

Speaker 2 18:42

Oh yeah, we had lots of calls.

Speaker 1 18:44

That's cool.

Speaker 2 18:48

That's why I can talk so well.

Speaker 1 18:51

Inuits. They had some stories that were pretty cool. They thought that ducks were messengers between the living and the spirit world. I think that's cool too. I like weird shit, though. Some stories were pretty cool. They thought that ducks were messengers between the living and the spirit world. Oh, I think that's cool too. I like weird shit though.

Speaker 2 19:03

Did they eat ducks too, though? Probably, Because then are you eating an ancestor who's gay. Here's a message.

Speaker 1 19:08

Well, I don't know if they.

Speaker 2 19:08

Have a bite.

Duck Symbolism and Cultural Significance

Speaker 1 19:10

I don't know if they meant that they were the spirit, but you know how, like sparrows and whatever, are symbolic of transition to the spirit world. Okay, then the Celts, your favorites. I like the Celts. They thought the same thing, kind of they represented guides to the other world. So there's just some stuff going on there. I got a little lisp today. I apologize.

Speaker 2 19:35

And then you got a totally different Mighty Ducks.

Speaker 1 19:38

I forgot to mention. Oh, yes, emilio Estevez, yes, mighty Ducks 1, 2, 3, 4, 5. First one was pretty good, but I bet if you watched it now it wouldn't be.

Speaker 2 19:50

No, I don't know. I don't know.

Speaker 1 19:53

You know what I mean.

Speaker 2 19:53

Yeah, but there's an actual team named the Mighty Ducks too.

Speaker 1 19:56

Oh, I'm sorry, but they're still around. Yeah, anaheim, right.

Speaker 2 19:59

Anaheim yeah.

Speaker 1 20:00

Maybe not.

Speaker 2 20:01

And then, how about ducks in video games? Remember this classic Duck Hunt? Oh yeah, yeah, hours spent.

Speaker 1 20:10

Killing the ducks.

Speaker 2 20:19

Without killing the real ducks.

Speaker 1 20:19

And then there's a survival game where the players are the ducks, called duck side. Never heard of it. I've never played it, but I would um mandarin ducks, sorry, those are gifted at weddings, usually in chinese culture oh okay, I'm just the wedding duck, yeah, duck. It's supposed to be like eternal love and fidelity, even though apparently you said ducks do not mate for life.

Speaker 2 20:42

They do not mate for life.

Speaker 1 20:43

Because they're.

Speaker 2 20:45

Let's not get back into that. We're not talking about that anymore. Yep.

Speaker 1 20:49

People, we're going to get canceled. Canceled, your rubber ducks there. They originated in the 1800s oh, I can't get a square. They were mass produced in the 20th century and giant rubber ducks are used in parades, protests and art installations you know there was oh, I can't get it to squeak good job thank you there was the giant rubber duck was in Alpena a few years ago it was. It was pretty fucking amazing. It was a few years ago, it was, it was pretty fucking amazing.

Speaker 2 21:19

It was a couple years ago now. I thought it was amazing. It was like a huge rubber duck, I don't know.

Speaker 1 21:26

Can't beat a big rubber duck.

Speaker 2 21:28

No, I couldn't beat it. You can punch it.

Speaker 1 21:33

The Jeep. Thing.

Speaker 2 21:34

I don't understand that and I asked the Jeep owner.

Speaker 1 21:36

I've talked to people and they don't like it either.

Speaker 2 21:38

I'm like what's the deal with the?

Speaker 1 21:39

ducks, no offense. No, if you want to do it. Daniel, the guy that wrote a note is a Jeep guy.

Speaker 2 21:44

But I asked a Jeep owner and he's like I don't really know.

Speaker 1 21:49

Well, according to this Okay, it says and this doesn't seem right because it doesn't seem that long ago it supposedly began in Ontario, canada, in 2020. A Jeep driver left a rubber duck on another Jeep to spread cheer.

Speaker 2 22:04

Oh Okay.

Speaker 1 22:05

But I know some people and they're like God.

Speaker 2 22:06

They leave these ducks on my, I don't want a duck, quit leaving a fucking duck there.

Speaker 1 22:09

And then you see some Jeeps and good for whatever, and they got a whole bunch of them. It's like they're driving in a pile of ducks. Yeah, they're driving in a pile of ducks. And then they do that hand thing, don't they? If you have a Jeep, you do it out the window.

Speaker 2 22:18

Do they have a special? So do VW drivers, and so do motorcyclists. Yeah, they do. The low, the low wave, the low wave. I don't. People with GMCs, on course we don't have a special. No, sometimes people give me the finger which one? The middle one?

Speaker 1 22:41

Nobody does that to you. Oh yeah, they do. Is that when you're throwing?

Speaker 2 22:44

your trash out the window. I would never do that.

Speaker 1 22:45

I would never do that, but those it's funny. Not funny, it's interesting because people, what the fuck? You got another duck.

Speaker 2 22:53

There's been two all along. Are you kidding me?

Speaker 1 22:55

right now. I just looked down and there's two. They're reproducing. Get that one away from the other one. Just keep them apart. I don't want to, so no, but like these folks, you know, oh, I drive a Jeep. We have this camaraderie. It could be a serial killer, but you're just like, hey, here's a duck, hey, here's a duck, but we, I'm not knocking a Jeep either.

Speaker 2 23:15

I've driven a couple of them. I loved them. I had a Jeep. Love, love, loved them. Yeah, mm-hmm, I drove my Jeep Cherokee so long.

Speaker 1 23:23

Yeah, you had a long time.

Speaker 2 23:24

you said that I had a hole in the floorboard.

Speaker 1 23:27

Just getting broken.

Speaker 2 23:29

And there was a mat over it, and so it was fine.

Speaker 1 23:32

Mm-hmm, they're fun. Mine was an old CJ5. Oh wow, and it had three on the tree.

Speaker 2 23:41

Oh, and only three. You only need three gears.

Speaker 1 23:44

That's all you get Three speed shifter on the column and the floor was rotted out and I'm no kidding, it had two by fours wedged underneath the body to keep it on the yeah, but I loved it. And a guy came by this was years ago. I was sitting on the yard at my folks' house while I was visiting and he stopped and he's like hey, is that for sale? I said maybe, and he offered me more than I paid for it.

Speaker 1 24:07

I believe that but then I look back and I'm like it was a CJ5, three on the tree. It had a chrome dash, it probably was, so he probably was putting it together.

Rubber Ducks and Jeep Culture

Speaker 2 24:15

When I had my Jeep Cherokee, I replaced it with a Jeep Grand Cherokee. My mom got a new car so I got her car. I know I was like whoa. It was like, yeah, very bougie compared to the other one. So when I was selling that Jeep, I mean I couldn't believe how much money I got for it. It was four-wheel drive.

Speaker 1 24:41

It had a hole in the floorboard, the Cherokees especially. But they didn't care that type were really popular, they still are People try to find those.

Speaker 2 24:50

Enough about Jeeps.

Speaker 1 24:51

How did you get out of the Jeeps, though, because once people are in them, they stay in them.

Speaker 2 24:54

Well, I want to tell you that I went to the Jeep dealer when it was time to buy a new vehicle, and nobody would wait on me, oh boy.

Speaker 1 25:04

Oh, I know, and so I went to GMC and they were falling all over themselves to sell me a car, and so I bought my last four or five cars from there. We can give a shout-out to Opina GMC Buick, because I too have had great experiences there.

Speaker 2 25:22

Steve Bruschi in the service department. I mean, he always guides me as to what to buy.

Speaker 1 25:28

The young plowman there, Colby, I think his name is. I don't know him.

Speaker 2 25:32

He's really good Actual salesperson, good stuff, but yeah, they're very good, they have been great and I hope to continue to buy from them. We'll see.

Speaker 1 25:43

I mean, I didn't buy myself a car there, I bought my kid one there. That's all right yeah.

Speaker 2 25:49

Okay, so back to ducks. I just want to say the other thing I noticed when I was researching ducks was that there's a lot of words that have duck in them.

Speaker 1 26:00

Yes.

Speaker 2 26:02

Do it. Did you do that too?

Speaker 1 26:03

Yeah.

Speaker 2 26:03

Duck pin. What is that? What is that? It's a short squat bowling pin.

Speaker 1 26:08

Oh yeah, isn't that the? They play that over on the East Coast duck pin bowling.

Speaker 2 26:13

Yeah yeah, it's just a different type of bowling. How about geoduck?

Speaker 1 26:19

That's not on my list.

Speaker 2 26:20

The world's largest burrowing clam is called a geoduck. Why, I don't know.

Speaker 1 26:29

I guess I didn't research it that much. That's really cool, though. See, the duck is so cool that another animal got its name From the duck.

Speaker 2 26:37

Yeah, Maybe it spirals down in the mud.

Speaker 1 26:40

Oh boy, and gets caught in the chamber.

Speaker 2 26:43

How about British duckies If they say hey, ducky, what that means darling or dear.

Speaker 1 26:50

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2 26:51

Hey, ducky Duck boots. Oh, my God, you know duck boots. Sure, yeah, like an LL Bean type of boot. Yeah, you got any duck boots in your closet? Yeah, you know what I do. I do. I wear them too. They're waterproof, that's why they're good. A little stiff, aren't they? Yeah, they are. You know they're hard to put on, but that's why they're good, because they're waterproof and they don't let the water in. How about a duck tail.

Speaker 1 27:18

Yeah, like Fonzie, didn't he have a duck tail, he did yeah.

Speaker 2 27:21

Pompadour is another name for it, it is. Yeah, hmm, duck Walk.

Speaker 1 27:28

Yeah, I've heard of that one, chuck Berry. Mm-hmm.

Speaker 2 27:31

Playing his guitar. Duck Weed Yep Is a. You say that, what is it?

Speaker 1 27:37

Is it a weed? It is a weed Like on top of a pond.

Speaker 2 27:41

It's a yeah, they called it a water lentil Yep, which makes me want to try to eat it With duck. With duck.

Speaker 1 27:48

Mm-hmm, duck With duck. Oh my gosh, I wonder if they do pair those.

Speaker 2 27:49

I don't know. I might say it's kind of swampy Maybe. And then on the last one I found was a duck board, which is it makes total sense. It's like the boardwalk that you put down in a swampy area.

Speaker 1 28:05

Okay.

Speaker 2 28:05

You know, like, think of a national park, like where the geysers are. Yellowstone. They have a duck board going along yeah.

Speaker 1 28:14

Yeah, even though ducks probably don't care.

Speaker 2 28:17

They don't care if it's named after them.

Speaker 1 28:19

They don't even care if that board is there.

Speaker 2 28:20

I don't think they're walking in, that it's hot, I mean where I'm thinking but, like the geyser, anything else? Anything else about ducks? Yeah, there's some phrases, what's?

Speaker 1 28:35

a sitting duck. Oh what is that? That means you're just waiting to get easy target easy duck and cover.

Speaker 2 28:39

Oh, duck and cover, okay water off a duck's back that means just, you don't pay.

Speaker 1 28:44

No, never mind like a duck to water.

Speaker 2 28:47

That means you take to it.

Speaker 1 28:49

Yep, and then one of them, I don't know, I was going to say one of my grandma's favorites. Oh, fuck a duck.

Speaker 2 28:57

Fuck a duck. I really haven't heard that one.

Speaker 1 29:01

No, it's a new one. Okay, she made it up. There are some duck festivals. There's the Duck Fest in Texas. It celebrates hunting season with food. There's the Duck Fest in. Texas that celebrates hunting season, with food contests and live music. Who plays there? Probably?

Speaker 2 29:18

Garth Brooks.

Speaker 1 29:19

Probably not.

Speaker 2 29:20

The Great Duck Races, Arkansas, New Mexico and there's a lot of rubber duck races in places all over, yeah.

Speaker 1 29:30

Small town, we do it.

Speaker 2 29:31

We used to. I don't know as long as you can get all the ducks when you're done, then you number the bottom of them and it's like, oh, number two won.

Speaker 1 29:41

Then you go to the fair and they have them floating around.

Speaker 2 29:43

That's the lucky ducks game.

Speaker 1 29:47

Maryland has the Duck Decoy Festival. Oh, my dad would have enjoyed that. Hunting, traditions and artistry Maryland has the Duck Decoy Festival. Oh, honoring my dad would have enjoyed that. Yep haunting traditions and artistry because it is an art.

Speaker 2 29:56

Those decoys, it is art. We have some that are beautifully done beautifully. They had gorgeous ones. Some are worth a lot of money too Not the ones that I have, but you know some are.

Speaker 1 30:08

And then Minnesota actually does a combination festival. It's called the Turtle and Duck Festival.

Speaker 2 30:15

Well, what do they have in common?

Speaker 1 30:18

Water.

Speaker 2 30:20

I guess they're both good eating. I don't know, I don't know have you had turtle, they're really not. Neither one of them are good eating. They have that in common, yeah.

Speaker 1 30:29

I haven't had turtle. I haven't had duck. I haven't had duck. I don't know what I'm talking about.

Speaker 2 30:32

You haven't had duck. You need to try it.

Speaker 1 30:34

I don't think I want to, not after.

Speaker 2 30:35

Well, don't eat all of the duck.

Speaker 1 30:38

Yeah.

Speaker 2 30:38

Yeah, if you go to a fancy restaurant and they have duck on the menu, you should order it.

Duck Phrases and Festivals

Speaker 1 30:45

It's expensive, isn't it? I just I get nervous about trying new things at a restaurant. Well, here's how I tried it. This worked out perfect.

Speaker 2 30:53

We went out to eat with a cousin and his wife Ted.

Speaker 1 30:58

Nugent right. Oh, my God no, I thought he was your cousin, oh my God, I am not, even not related to that guy. He can play guitar good. I don't even I don't know Okay.

Speaker 2 31:12

You got me all worked up here.

Speaker 1 31:13

I'm so sorry. I apologize. She's like red in the face. I can see a vein on her forehead the cousin was.

Speaker 2 31:20

So Chris is the cousin. And he said you are going to love this duck, you should order the duck. Order the duck, order the duck. And I'm like I don't know. And he like I don't know. And he said I'll tell you what. I am so confident that you will like this duck. Tell me what your second choice is, or tell me what you were going to order. I will order that and if you don't like the duck, I'll switch with you. Which that was great.

Speaker 1 31:42

That was awesome.

Speaker 2 31:43

You know what? I ate the duck, I can't even remember what he had.

Speaker 1 31:49

What was your second favorite? I don't know, probably shrimp Shrimp.

Speaker 2 31:54

I love the shrimp.

Speaker 1 31:55

I have some odd and fascinating facts, though. Please tell me. You know. I hope my microphone is Working. It is, it's got to be, and if not better for some people, I guess Ducks can see in UV light and they have 360-degree vision, vision which now makes sense for the females anyway, if you're watching um and here, oh yeah, the wood duck nests in trees and perches on branches.

Speaker 2 32:19

Okay, we knew yeah, and you never really expect to see a duck in a tree, no, but you could you ever see a turkey in a tree? Yeah, it's weird blows your mind yeah, so what the hell is that? We had turkeys that are at our other house, because we lived in the woods and every now and then there'd be one way up in the tree Huh.

Speaker 1 32:37

The blue-winged teal. It will migrate thousands of miles from Canada to South America. Wow.

Speaker 2 32:42

That's a long way, that's a long time.

Speaker 1 32:44

Sounds like a pretty duck too. Teal it's because the teal is in there. Yeah, the duck stamp program actually has funded billions for habitat preservation.

Speaker 2 32:54

Ducks Unlimited man. That's pretty cool. They give a lot of money, a lot of money. We had some duck prints too. I think we still have some from the duck room.

Speaker 1 33:04

You get many ducks out there. Oh, yeah, yeah, I bet Comerants.

Speaker 2 33:12

They're kind of a hated duck.

Speaker 1 33:13

I know, but why they're just doing their job.

Speaker 2 33:15

They are, but I think they chased all the other ducks away or they ate all of some species of fish or something. I'm not really sure it's evolution, but yeah, we get ducks.

Speaker 1 33:26

Yeah, we got some too. We had a mama duck out there with baby ones, you know. Yeah, we got some too. We had a mama duck out there with baby ones, you know. And then one day the mama duck was just on our dock freaking out. I was like what happened? No babies all day.

Speaker 2 33:39

Oh no.

Speaker 1 33:39

But then a day or two later there's all the little ones again.

Speaker 2 33:44

So she must have been like talking to them from the Stay over there.

Speaker 1 33:47

Yeah, and I just saw them not too long ago. They're still hanging out, they're getting big. But I like a duck, but now I don't know my duck, I don't know.

Speaker 2 33:56

So what do you say? Are ducks heroes or ducks?

Speaker 1 34:01

I mean, that's kind of some dickish thing I mean wow, but it's nature.

Speaker 2 34:05

I don't know, it's nature. You know, nature knows, she knows.

Speaker 1 34:09

But they've been around for however long. I said, you know it's heroic.

Speaker 2 34:15

They get shot. I have nothing against them. Right In my book they're really neither a hero or a dick. They're just kind of there. I think they, yeah, they did some dickish things. But yeah, I like some of the stories about them.

Speaker 1 34:28

What about Donald Duck? Do you think he's a hero? I think he's a dick.

Speaker 2 34:31

I think he's a dick too. He's a big dick. Daffy Duck, Put some pants on.

Speaker 1 34:36

Yeah, what the hell is that? No pants.

Speaker 2 34:38

I know.

Speaker 1 34:38

Wait, Daffy's got no pants. You like Daffy? Daffy doesn't have any clothes on. He's a his duck, that's just his duck.

Speaker 2 34:48

Whereas Donald and his whole family they're wearing shirts.

Speaker 1 34:55

If you're going to put a shirt on, put some pants on too.

Speaker 2 34:56

He's dressed like a sailor, isn't he? Yeah?

Speaker 1 34:58

What a dick he's like. What a dick.

Speaker 2 34:59

Oh, there you go. You ruined it for all ducks, donald. Thanks Donald.

Speaker 1 35:04

Can't do it. I don't know.

Final Duck Facts and Verdict

Speaker 2 35:11

What else you got? Rubber duckies are cute, though I'll give them that they are. They are cute. Is this a squeak? I can't do it. I do have fast five.

Speaker 1 35:16

Totally unrelated to ducks. Okay, so the verdict on ducks is hero for me. I say neither she's supposed to pick, but that's okay.

Speaker 2 35:24

I'm going to say Do it, do it. Say it Hick, hick, oh God, all right. Okay, here's fast five. Totally unrelated to dicks, I mean ducks. Was that a Freudian slip?

Speaker 1 35:39

Yeah, you're thinking about the old corkscrew. That's not good.

Speaker 2 35:42

I can't get past the corkscrew now this one. I can't Every time I look at a duck.

Speaker 1 35:46

This one is not going to get uploaded. Wait now, you wait for the message. Yeah, I'm going to have a batch of mail to read to you next time. Okay, I didn't even bring all of them this time.

Speaker 2 35:56

Okay, I have the email on my phone, but whatever, I have it too, do you yeah, do you Okay?

Speaker 1 36:01

They've got my phone number too.

Speaker 2 36:03

Oh All right. Okay, fast five Solitaire.

Speaker 1 36:09

Hero.

Speaker 2 36:10

Video Solitaire or cards.

Speaker 1 36:13

Cards.

Speaker 2 36:14

Yeah, like manual. Yeah, how about?

Speaker 1 36:18

throw pillows. Oh hero, I love pillows, just every pillow. We've got a problem in the home. Last night, actually, my wife thought it was real funny because I got an extra pillow for bed and I came to bed and she was all snuggled in bed on her phone and I said where's my pillow? And she's like what are you talking about? I said I swear to God, I put another pillow in there and a little while later I just put my head down. She started laughing and she threw it at me. But even at night, like I'll put a pillow on my lap, I don't know.

Speaker 2 36:47

Now just to be clear, that's not a throw pillow. A throw pillow is a decorative pillow.

Speaker 1 36:54

Yeah, like a couch pillow. Yeah, like a couch. Yeah, I like those. You can't stop me, I like pillows.

Speaker 2 36:59

Oh really All right, you're pillow pro pillow.

Speaker 1 37:03

I am pro pillow.

Speaker 2 37:05

How about berets? Oh God, no Beret. You say no. I just I knitted one, that's why.

Speaker 1 37:13

I say A.

Speaker 2 37:16

I say the one I knitted is a hero. Okay, I'll say how about military ones, though when the military is wearing a beret, I'm like I don't know. Are you guys really that tough?

Speaker 1 37:26

See, when I think beret, I think the person doing a fucking poetry reading and I just want to slip my own throat. Okay, that's just one beret. Sorry, I'm calming down. I don't like them, dick. Okay, but that's no disrespect to the military or the fact that people make them. Kate, I get it. I appreciate everybody's efforts.

Speaker 2 37:45

All right. How about jigsaw puzzles? Oh Hero.

Speaker 1 37:49

Heroes, jigsaw puzzles. Oh, hero, heroes. Sometimes it can keep my family busy for a long time.

Speaker 2 37:53

Sometimes, I don't do puzzles 1,000 piece or 500?

Speaker 1 37:57

500.

Speaker 2 37:57

Yeah, 1,000 is a commitment.

Speaker 1 38:00

It is. They make them bigger. Oh shit, do they Shit? Yeah, they do. Do you have a puzzle mat?

Speaker 2 38:05

No oh. They're pretty handy, but I would guess they are. I know people who have puzzle not just puzzle tables, like tables to make a puzzle, but it's specifically for a puzzle and then it's got like the ridges around it and it's got some other stuff. I mean it's specifically made for you to do a jigsaw puzzle on.

Speaker 1 38:27

That's nice. Do you ever shellac a puzzle?

Speaker 2 38:29

I have not, well, I probably have in my past.

Speaker 1 38:31

Hang it on your wall, but I have none.

Speaker 2 38:36

I remember Cassidy had a Mr T puzzle. That was pretty awesome. Hey, is he still?

Speaker 1 38:41

Oh, yeah, he's still that would be a good topic too. Yeah, Okay, what else you got?

Speaker 2 38:44

The 555 is Fast, five is baseball. Wow, dead silence.

Speaker 1 38:52

Ah, hero, I suppose I don't want to piss off America. I can take it or leave it, but to go and watch a game, that's pretty cool. Yeah, I like watching them in person quite a bit.

Speaker 2 39:06

Yeah, when I think of baseball too, I think of my grandpa listening to the baseball game on the radio, and so for that I'm going to say hero.

Speaker 1 39:13

Yeah, and that was an art form. Baseball is a great sport, don't get me wrong. Been around forever, it's America's sport. But yeah, the art form of the announcer announcing a game because you have a lot of dead time to fill.

Speaker 2 39:28

Oh yeah, you do. You better know some stats.

Speaker 1 39:31

That's a person who actually that is their job.

Speaker 2 39:35

That is their job.

Speaker 1 39:37

And they do research.

Speaker 2 39:38

They're not talking about duck dicks. No, they're professional.

Speaker 1 39:43

I think we maybe need to clean up the next podcast and have a wholesome. Maybe Mr T's not even a good one. Mr T is pretty wholesome. Ducks can be so dirty. Oh, dirty ducks, all right, okay, well, thanks everybody.

Speaker 2 39:56

Well, thanks, sorry for listening.