Hero or Dick
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Hero or Dick
Hero or Dick - S4., Ep. 3 - The Winter Olympics
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Welcome to another episode of Hero or Dick!
This time around, we jump from local happenings (shout out to Alpena, MI!) to a fast, funny, and frank tour of the Winter Olympics: how the Games are organized, who gets to compete, what the sports actually demand, and why hosting can be both a pride play and a headache. Between curling rocks and ski suit controversies, we land on a simple verdict: the Games bring people together when we need it most.
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~ Kate & KJ
Banter, Names, And Nicknames
SPEAKER_03Looking over here. Okay. We're here. I think, yeah. Hello? Can you hear me all right?
SPEAKER_01I can hear you, but I'm sitting right here.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Um, welcome to Hero Dick is what we're called. No, it's the Kate. The Kate extravaganza, and I'm her side kick KJ.
SPEAKER_01KJ, what's the J stand for?
SPEAKER_03Junior.
SPEAKER_01Does it?
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So your name is Kim Jr.
SPEAKER_03No.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03That's a nickname. My dad. My dad. No, my dad, who is obviously Kim Sr. Yeah. He would write me notes in the morning, which I I always like to. I could write it. And it would be like, hey, have a good day. If you have a chance, can you do this, this, and this? And it'd always be KJ, KJ, KJ. And that's where it came from. And then it stuck because your middle name. I don't want to repeat it.
SPEAKER_01The middle name?
SPEAKER_03Yeah. It's Lee. Kim Lee.
SPEAKER_01Kim Lee.
SPEAKER_03Well, that or you know, uh first the name Kim that has caused me some grief.
SPEAKER_01Well, how do you feel about having a name that's androgynous like that? Because you could be Terry or Pat. There's Brooks, too. Kim that are Brook. Yeah, there's Brooks. Brooks is usually the male form of Brooke because I have a nephew named Brooks. He's adorable.
SPEAKER_03See? Well, the Kim thing is interesting because uh when I moved to St. Paul years ago, there were like two or three other Kims working there. And my boss, Tim, was like, hey, you know, do you have a nickname or something? I said, Yeah, KJ. My dad used to, you know. He's like, okay, KJ. And it just stuck. And then I use that for writing and blah blah blah. But the Kim name is interesting because I can't count how many times I would get pantyhose samples in the mail, tampon samples in the mail. And then still like people, oh, Mrs. Stevens or Ms. Stevens.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, and Kim really can go either way. Although usually it's a Kimber leave.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But Kim What about Kimbo? Kimbo.
SPEAKER_03Kimbo slice. It was an MMA fighter or something.
SPEAKER_00I don't know. I don't know either. Probably why it was a fighter. Yours is just Kate, right? That's my middle name. What's what's the whole name?
SPEAKER_01My first name? You don't know my middle name? I don't think I should tell anybody.
SPEAKER_03Don't people know, but what is it?
SPEAKER_01Andrea.
SPEAKER_03Oh, wait, I didn't know that. I'm sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry. I did know that. Damn it. Um, names. There was something else about names. Hmm. Doesn't matter, I guess.
SPEAKER_01So it is KJ and Kate.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Lee.
SPEAKER_01Lee.
SPEAKER_03Was from Levi Was My Grandpa.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03And so they couldn't just give me Levi.
SPEAKER_01Why did they give you Levi? I don't know. Give them Levi.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I don't argue about it anymore.
Local Fire And Small-Town Life
SPEAKER_01That doesn't have a thing right now. Let's not do that.
SPEAKER_03All right, Andrea, Kate, AK, and KJ. Kicking some A. We're just talking about the lovely town of Alpinas, some happenings here going on. Not all good.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, there was a big fire in town yesterday, and a legendary bar went up in flames.
SPEAKER_03The sports page.
SPEAKER_01The sports page, which used to be called Hannah's.
SPEAKER_03Hannah's?
SPEAKER_01Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03No kidding.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for years before sports page. But then Bob Adamski owned the sports page forever. And he just sold it to the a couple years ago now to um the guy who Nawiki. I don't know if that's his name, but the guy owns Nawiki sausage. You know, it was just a good bar. It's a hometown bar. And well now it's gone. They did save the sign though.
SPEAKER_03Did they?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, they did.
SPEAKER_03But pried it off in the middle of the blazing fire.
SPEAKER_01And then the Main Street Studio, which I don't know what it was called now.
SPEAKER_03So wasn't there a doggy thing there, too?
Season Setup And Awards Talk
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Yeah. That was the storefront. So there was Main Street Salon, which I don't know if it was after since Renee has been gone. But anyway, that's not cool. Nope. It's never good. Right on right on Chisholm. Right on our main street. Slimey. So that's not cool.
SPEAKER_03Well, on a better note, at least it's sunny and warm today.
SPEAKER_01Uh warmish.
SPEAKER_03It's not sunny either.
SPEAKER_0120. It's not even sunny. But you know what? Yesterday when I went out and about, wow, it's warm. I'm not zipping my coat up. It's 20 degrees.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01But it's all relative.
SPEAKER_03Well, yeah, you get used to that.
SPEAKER_01Negative five and negative five and then 20 is like, yeah, yeah. So I guess season four, episode three. And today, uh, our topic is oh, wait, let me just say, I found out that the Golden Globes now have a podcast category. So look for us there next year. Yeah, didn't Amy Bowler won. Right. Yeah. Over her ex-husband.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. You know, more and more he's bugging me. I hate to say that. I don't know him personally. Yeah, well learned. Like I do like it's pretty cocky. That's a fold.
SPEAKER_01Three men in a podcast. No, it's a call.
SPEAKER_03Smartless.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03I was a great fan of it. Still am, but man, I'm starting to get a little annoyed with those. Just like the I don't know.
SPEAKER_01Maybe they've run their course.
SPEAKER_03I think they may have.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03Kind of like they jumped a shark. But no, no disrespect. Jason Bateman's still been bugging us to get on.
SPEAKER_01So Yeah. And Jason.
Winter Olympics Kickoff And History
SPEAKER_03So this episode on uh what day is it today, Kate? Thursday. The 12th.
SPEAKER_01Thursday, February 5th.
SPEAKER_03The 5th. It's about the Olympics.
SPEAKER_01The Olympics are starting tomorrow. Right. No. Tomorrow. But the thing is the winter Olympics.
SPEAKER_03With these Olympics. They're clothed. Right. And they don't fight to the death as they did in the old days. I mean, back when they actually uh participated naked.
SPEAKER_01The Romans did.
SPEAKER_03Back in the day. Yeah. In the 776 BC. Not in the winter.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03The Olympics. The original Olympics.
SPEAKER_01The original Olympics you're talking about. Okay.
SPEAKER_03And they would even set aside uh wars and whatnot to get together and beat the piss out of each other and do their contest.
SPEAKER_01Set aside this war so we can compete naked.
SPEAKER_03Mm-hmm. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. That whole thing.
SPEAKER_03What wrestling? Naked Olympics?
SPEAKER_01Naked Olympics.
SPEAKER_03But anyway, that's all I know about the Olympics.
SPEAKER_01But that's the main Olympics. So we're concentrating on the Winter Olympics.
SPEAKER_03I concentrated on all of them.
SPEAKER_01Oh, did you? Okay. Well, I didn't really concentrate much. So anything you have about regular Olympics? I know that the Winter Olympics are held every four years. And they used to coincide with the summer, and then they they broke them up so that the summer's every, you know, and two years from now the Summer Olympics will happen, and two years the Olympics, but they're both uh every four years.
SPEAKER_03So they're both every four years. Yes. But they're staggered.
SPEAKER_01Yes. Thank you for explaining that better than I did.
SPEAKER_03No. And why did they break them up?
SPEAKER_01Uh I don't know. Probably had something to do with airtime.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha.
SPEAKER_01Advertising.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so you think the that came later?
SPEAKER_01They came later. I I probably have, but still worrying.
SPEAKER_03No, baby.
SPEAKER_01Let's see if I get to it. Uh yeah, I won't have it right in front of me. But this year it's February 6th through the 22nd in Italy. Milan and Portina de Ambezzo.
SPEAKER_02That's pretty good, Kate.
SPEAKER_01I know. That's the first time that uh cities have co-hosted. So uh in this year, Russia and Belarus are banned.
SPEAKER_03Why?
SPEAKER_01Because of the invasion of Ukraine. There it athletes can complete can compete as AINs, which is independent neutral athletes, but they don't get a flag, no anthem, or team sport.
SPEAKER_03Hold on a second. So I or you could go participate. We'd have to be good at something. But we could participate and not be affiliated with a country?
Bans, Neutral Athletes, And Identity
SPEAKER_01I think you can, yeah. Is there AIN? You probably have to get approved by the A. Wait, is it I A N or A I N? A I N. Oh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_01It doesn't matter.
SPEAKER_03And did that come from magnitude? Is that the same thing as folks who are refugees who aren't because like there's like a group like that is a good question.
SPEAKER_01Okay. And there is a group of refugees, so there should probably some, I don't know, and then they're not, they can't be in their country, but do they play for their country anyway? I think they do. That's probably a separate category.
SPEAKER_03Fascinating.
SPEAKER_01And Puerto Rico has its own Olympic team, separate from the US, even though they're part of the US digitally.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy. Um, but because they're uh the international Olympic committee recognizes Puerto Rico as a separate, self-governing territory with distinct national identity. Which they do.
SPEAKER_03I can see that.
SPEAKER_01And so they and they have competed in the Winter Olympics in the past, Alpine Skiing and the Skeleton. Hey, in 2026, they're supposed to Alpine Skiing and the Skeleton, which is one of the one of the no, it's the loot, like the Lou's.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_01Well, we here, we let's talk about that.
SPEAKER_03So in Puerto Rico, because that's your homeland. Yes, um they don't Alpine skiing? Yeah, you can practice. Yeah, but where?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Water skiing? Maybe there's a a ski jump set up, like in roller. No, I just find that like, isn't that fascinating? Yeah, maybe they probably go somewhere else and practice. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03Like, what was that movie about the Jamaicans and the Bob's living?
SPEAKER_01I just watched it with Giant Candy. Uh it'll come to me. It'll be there. It's something simple.
SPEAKER_04Yeah.
Puerto Rico, Training, And Unlikely Teams
SPEAKER_01So here's the sports that the Winter Olympics cover. Um, well, maybe we should start with there's approximately 93 countries featuring 3,500 athletes, 232 from the U.S., that are participating this year. MBC airs it, some other people air it too. I find the best coverage is from the Canadian.
SPEAKER_04Do you really?
SPEAKER_01Yes. Because the Canadians they own the Winter Olympics. I mean, come on. They're winter sport country. Uh Mariah Carey and Andrea Wantelli are performing in the opening. Whoopdy. Yeah, whoopdy. Uh and it's six hours ahead of us, so there's you gotta factor that in. 16 sports, 116 events, including some new ones. Ski mountaineering, mixed team skeleton, and the women's double luge. So here's the other uh sports. There's ice sports, which include hockey figure skating, ice skating, uh, yeah, ice skating, uh, well, figure skating, short track speed skating, uh long term or long track speed skating, ice hockey, curling, curling.
SPEAKER_03Curling. Have you tried that here yet?
SPEAKER_01I have not, but I I've tried it before, but not here.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's a workout.
SPEAKER_01It's hard. I mean, out here. It is. You have to have some sweeping ability.
SPEAKER_03And that thing. Aren't those heavy?
SPEAKER_01They are those. They're called rocks. The rocks, they slide the rocks of 40 pounds.
SPEAKER_03That's a lot.
SPEAKER_01That's a lot. And you gotta get the closest, closer to the target than the opponents. And that sounds simple, but it's not.
SPEAKER_03No, and you can bounce them around off of each other, right?
SPEAKER_01And what I love about uh, yeah, yeah. What I love about curling is they're just kind of normal looking people, like you know, chubby people like me.
SPEAKER_02Like we could do it.
SPEAKER_01I could be an athlete in curling. I like that.
Sports Lineup And New Events
SPEAKER_02Well, what other sports are there? So they're all cold stuff.
SPEAKER_01Yes. So then there's skiing slash snowboarding, which includes the alpine, cross-country, freestyle, Nordic combined, ski jumping, and then snowboarding and ski mountaineering, which is the new one.
SPEAKER_03That's like probably hiking on skis.
SPEAKER_01It's got more than just skiing to it. You know, I didn't I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I bet you it's like you're you're going up the side of the mountain, then you're skiing down the other side or something.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. Well, we should have really looked that up. So then there's also the sliding sports, which include uh the luge. You go 90 to 95 miles an hour.
SPEAKER_03It's pretty quick.
SPEAKER_01The luge, and you lay down your feet first in the luge. So then there's also Bob Sleigh, which I thought was Bob Sled. It's Bob Sleigh.
SPEAKER_03Bob Slay.
SPEAKER_01Bob Sleigh, you know him, right?
SPEAKER_03Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01He was you go head first down. Germany is uh the favorite for that.
SPEAKER_03Wait a second. Well, you're confusing me. So Bob Sledding.
SPEAKER_01Bob Sledding is head first. And Bob Slaying is Bob's Bob Slaying is the same as Bob Sledding.
SPEAKER_03Okay, and the Luge is sitting on feet first.
SPEAKER_01No, you laid down. You're laid down, and you got your feet first, and you tuck it all in. Tuck it out. And then the skeleton is head first. Yeah, and that's just single. I think Bob Slay, you you get all everybody jump in the cart and let's go.
SPEAKER_03Hop in everyone.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Hop in everyone. You go about 80 miles an hour on that one though.
SPEAKER_03That's interesting, too. You're you imagine practicing that one? Like, you gotta go down and up. Down and up.
SPEAKER_01Well, I think they get a ride up.
SPEAKER_03I don't know.
SPEAKER_01They're not walking.
SPEAKER_03Still, you think it'd take a lot of time.
SPEAKER_01It does.
SPEAKER_03And I mean they do other things that walk.
SPEAKER_01They're actually conditioning and so Bob's skeleton are head first. Blue is the lay down feet first. And then there's also the biathlon, which I I don't I didn't write down what that includes. But it's probably I'm gonna get a smooth thing.
SPEAKER_03Well, listen, there was a there was a skiing one where you stop and you shoot, and then you ski and you shoot.
SPEAKER_01That's the cross country, I think.
SPEAKER_03You shoot stuff?
SPEAKER_01No, Nordic combined.
SPEAKER_03Okay, gotcha.
SPEAKER_00All right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you ski, ski, shoot, ski, ski, shoot. I don't know who invented that one. And then the snowboarding is pretty recent. It's been around for a little while. Um let's see. And then ski jumping.
SPEAKER_03That's fun to watch.
SPEAKER_01It is because they just fly. Okay, and then there was a scandal with the ski jumping.
SPEAKER_03Who did it?
SPEAKER_01Well, let me tell you. The they didn't really read my scratching notes. But they want you so you want to fly through the air, right? Yeah, you you fly. And you want so a bigger suit is a larger sail.
SPEAKER_03Like a flying squirrel.
SPEAKER_01Exactly. And so Norway added room in the crotch. It was the crotch stitching controversy.
SPEAKER_03Are you shooting me?
SPEAKER_01And so they could get a little more flight in the crotch.
SPEAKER_03That's reaching, eh? Something.
Sliding Sports Explained
SPEAKER_01Oh then Alpines, let's go back to Alpine skiing. USA's Makila shifter is the most decorated alpine skier in history. Over a hundred plus World Cup wins. That's a lot.
SPEAKER_03United States.
SPEAKER_01US, yeah. USA.
SPEAKER_03USA.
SPEAKER_01Curling, the Swedes are the favorite. But Canada. Yeah, come on. They're gonna they're gonna give them a tough ride. One beer and a one hand and they can drink while they're doing it, they win right there. Everybody wins then.
SPEAKER_00Um everybody wins except that's not everybody wins.
SPEAKER_01No. Uh and then the um also uh in the figure skating, um is he a figure skater, or maybe he's a a speed skater. I think he's a figure skater. His name is Maxim Naumov, and it's his first Olympics, and his parents were his coach. And remember there was uh um a plane crash, I think it was about a year ago, and there was a lot of uh there was a lot of people coming back from like the World Cup of figure skating, and the plane went down and everybody, everybody died, and his parents were on that plane. So one year ago in Washington, and so he is uh sentimental favorite for sure. And then there's also in figure skating, um Ilana Malum. That's probably an incorrect pronunciation, but he is the quad god figure skating. What used to be a triple, he makes a quad.
SPEAKER_03No kidding.
SPEAKER_01I don't know how they do that. How can they jump up in the air falling around quad? That's four times.
SPEAKER_03That's four times, Kate.
SPEAKER_01I know.
SPEAKER_03Can you do that?
SPEAKER_01No, I can't even jump up in the air. Come on, let alone on skates. Uh what else what else you got?
SPEAKER_03I was curious if you found anything about um how cities are chosen. Oh, one thing I did find out is that the colors of the rings actually at the time represented like all the countries that were participating had one color uh in their flag, like in common. So they picked those common colors to create the symbol. Thought that was pretty cool. That was in 1890s. In the 1890s, the guy that actually ran with it, Joseph Capanamimi or something like that.
Figure Skating Stories And Standouts
SPEAKER_01And I don't know how the cities are picked, but I do know that Colorado, Denver rejected it. They're like the only people who rejected it. They voted on it in 76, and they rejected hosting because the of financial and environmental concerns. Gotta respect it.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because some of what I was reading is that it does make quite a negative impact.
SPEAKER_01It does it can bring in some dough, but it can. Um, but it can also bring a lot of money to to your community, and uh you know you have to wait.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I guess. Because it's short-lived, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, well, it can be. But now uh a lot of places. So do you know which geographical area has hosted the Winter Olympics twice?
SPEAKER_03As in like North America.
SPEAKER_01They hosted in 1932 and then they hosted again in the a in 1980.
SPEAKER_03Probably like Germany or something.
SPEAKER_01Lake Placid, New York. Get the hell out of here. Where my grandparents are living while they lived when they were alive. Yeah, and in fact, they lived there then. And so what Lake Placid did was a good idea. So they did the Winter Olympics and then they made a training ground. So you could go to the bobsled places and you could go to the Alpine ski places, and there were people training there.
SPEAKER_03That's super cool.
SPEAKER_01So they I think they did it right, yeah. Yeah, but it brought a lot of money and a lot of people there, too.
SPEAKER_03That's interesting. Denver's like, no way.
SPEAKER_01No, Denver, no, thank you.
SPEAKER_03Not gonna do it. No, they voted it out. They seem to be doing okay, though.
SPEAKER_01Denver?
SPEAKER_03You been there?
SPEAKER_01I have.
SPEAKER_03We've had this conversation. Yeah I want to go there.
SPEAKER_01Uh uh go to Colorado, don't go to Denver.
SPEAKER_03No.
Rings, Hosts, And Lake Placid’s Legacy
SPEAKER_01I mean it's a big city.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to go to a really big city. No, you should go North of there, isn't it? Um Longmont, I heard it's nice.
SPEAKER_01Longmont, yeah. Uh uh, I don't know Longmont. I know um Colorado Springs, which is a big city too, but it's a nice city.
SPEAKER_03Where were uh where was where was Mork and Mindy from? Older, that's what it was.
SPEAKER_01Again, a big city's still, you know, nice. Yeah, there's lots of nice areas in Colorado. And it's not a far drive to get out of out of any big city, I don't think.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha. So I mean other things that would be, I'm just trying to think dickish things, you know, because the implications overall is hero heroic, but crime might increase.
SPEAKER_01Crime could increase. You you know, and you build all these. I think in Beijing, when they did the Summer Olympics, you know, they build all these things and they people are like, this shit is rickety, man. Don't go to that whatever is gonna collapse because they had to do it so quick, you know. But I they do have lots of time, but you know so it's not always and and maybe they don't want to build it so it stays there forever. Maybe they want to take it down when they're done.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um but yeah, so it brings a lot of people and it brings a lot of money in, but uh well, also with those people come, you know, problems too.
SPEAKER_03And then the pressure on the athletes. Uh like you know, here you are inflating your crotch so you can fly longer. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You know, I think I don't get is that the Olympic team, like I just read the figure skating Olympic team, was just chosen like last week. You can't choose those people like last year. For who? Or just for the USA. And I don't know how everybody else does it, but uh you know, so you think you're gonna be on this team and then you don't make the team?
SPEAKER_03I guess that really pushes people to compete. And try the hardest till the very end. Because if you get picked, you're like, I'm I'm on a team, I'm gonna take a couple nights off, go eat some hot dogs.
SPEAKER_01I don't think that's how athletes.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that is that's true. What could we get? What could we do you want to try for the curling team next next year?
SPEAKER_01We got four years.
SPEAKER_03I don't know, man.
SPEAKER_01I don't know.
SPEAKER_03We'll think we'll think about it. You know, if people would like us to try out for the Olympics, they could email us at hero or dick2023 at gmail.com.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. And we'll go by whatever they vote.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we'll do whatever.
SPEAKER_01We'll do it.
SPEAKER_03Except we're not gonna shoot pigeons. You know why?
SPEAKER_01Because a 19th shoot pigeons if I could practice on the Sun Daniel building because there's a lot of pigeons living there, and I'm not part of them at all.
SPEAKER_03I'm I'm not saying they have shooting pigeons in this Olympics, but you know they did in the 1900s. They actually had they shot live pigeons in the 1900s, and it was disastrous.
SPEAKER_01Now they got clay pigeons, I'm sure.
SPEAKER_03Sure they do.
SPEAKER_01I don't think Peter would let them shoot.
SPEAKER_03Oh, heck no.
unknownNo.
SPEAKER_01And so uh uh Lake Placid hosted twice. We talked about that in 1980. They had the big miracle on ice hockey game. Russians, Russia versus 1980, Russia versus US, East versus such a big deal.
SPEAKER_03It was a big deal. Called the most monumental epic sports event of the 20th century.
SPEAKER_01Wow, I didn't know it was that big of a deal. It's a movie. Kurt Russell's in it.
SPEAKER_03So right there.
SPEAKER_01You know it's a big deal. I like Kurt Russell. I love it.
Impact On Cities, Costs, And Crime
SPEAKER_03I watched that guy when I was a kid, elementary school. They'd take the projector in Maple Ridge School into the gymnasium and we'd watch old Walt Disney movies, and he was in some of like the Shaggy Dog and all that shit.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he was in the computer wore tennis shoes.
SPEAKER_03Yes.
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03And Kurt Russell, he'll he'll probably do the show.
unknownOh yeah.
SPEAKER_01No, he's too busy.
SPEAKER_03Is he?
SPEAKER_01I just saw him in the I watched him in a Christmas movie with Santa.
SPEAKER_03Yes, Christmas Chronicles. We've talked about that too. First one's much better than the second.
SPEAKER_01Always, almost always. It's not true with Godfather book.
SPEAKER_03What do you what? Oh, the Godfather.
SPEAKER_01The second Godfather was better than the first or the first of the world.
SPEAKER_03I haven't seen any of them.
SPEAKER_01I know, and yeah, I'm ashamed. You should be shame, shame, shame on you.
SPEAKER_03If Kurt Russell um was not in the Godfather. No, but if he was going to be in the Olympics, what event do you think he would do?
SPEAKER_01I don't know. He was pretty athletic. He was a baseball player. I just watched a thing about a what bowling's not in the winter Olympics?
SPEAKER_03You'd think it'd be in the winter.
SPEAKER_01Huh. I don't think necessary.
SPEAKER_03What?
SPEAKER_01You'd have to Google it, but I can't. I don't think it is.
SPEAKER_03Tyler didn't make it in today either. He could have looked. No, that's all right. Um he would be a good bowler, I think.
SPEAKER_01How about a good bowler? Probably.
SPEAKER_03So we covered the environmental impact. Maybe he's a little crime here and there. Um maybe some cities don't want it for those reasons.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Hang on. I got some bowling. Breaking news. Bowling is in the summer Olympics as of 2020.
SPEAKER_03Gotcha. You're a pretty good bowler.
SPEAKER_01Uh no, but I I'm not a good bowler at all.
SPEAKER_03Do you like bowling?
SPEAKER_01Uh no, but I like going to the bowling alley and playing um on the shuffleboard. I like the shuffleboard table. We did that one afternoon last week, I think. No, it wasn't a while ago. I don't know.
SPEAKER_03We talked about it here. Kate's sick of doing these shows, I can tell.
SPEAKER_01How about Lindsay Vaughn?
SPEAKER_03You've been talking about her. Now, who is she?
SPEAKER_01She's still gonna do it. She's gonna ski. She had a big wipeout on her last trial run, but and she said, My Olympic dream is not over, I'm going for it.
SPEAKER_03She's been around a while, eh?
SPEAKER_01She's only 41.
SPEAKER_03She's from California. Northern California. I don't know. I don't know where she's from. Well, good luck, Lindsay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I know, you know, we always vote for the underdog, right?
SPEAKER_0341 years old.
SPEAKER_0141 and in the Olympics. So right there, you're a winner.
SPEAKER_0341 and in the Olympics. What are we doing? I pulled my hamstring getting out of my truck.
Pros In The Games And Odd Facts
SPEAKER_01Nothing. The most decorated Winter Olympian in Norway. You know, I didn't write down in what category, but that Merritt Aboriginal has 15 medals.
SPEAKER_03No, I'm kidding.
SPEAKER_01I wonder what in. I'll have to look that up. Just scribbling, scribbling all these notes. No. Didn't get that detail in there.
SPEAKER_03They never used to allow professional athletes into the Olympics until 1980 or something like that.
SPEAKER_01Maybe even later than that. And now the hockey team is like stacked.
SPEAKER_03Killer. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But so would be all the other hockey teams.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, everybody else does this too.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, because so we have guys that play, let's say, for the Red Wings, but they could actually play for their team, right?
SPEAKER_01They can go if they're Russian, they could go to Russia. Well, not Russia. That's not a good example. Because they are banned. But Norway or wherever. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02That's kind of cool.
SPEAKER_01And did you know that there's one guy, Eddie Egan from the USA, and he won a winter Olympic, yes. Yeah. Well, no, he won it in the winter of 1932, he won a bobsled medal. But he also won in 1920, he won a summer in the summer Olympics, he won a gold for boxing. Really? He is the only person to win in summer and winter Olympics.
SPEAKER_03I thought that was kind of fun. I thought maybe it was Eddie Eagle. Remember the Eddie Eagle? Isn't he like a ski jumping guy? There was a movie made about him.
SPEAKER_01It sounds like he yeah, I think we talked about him before. So you must admire him.
SPEAKER_00I probably forgot that.
SPEAKER_03I don't admire.
SPEAKER_01What was the first year it was televised? Because it started in what did I say, 20 seven. 60.
SPEAKER_03Damn it.
SPEAKER_01But then in color, it's 68.
SPEAKER_03Okay. So that's probably what I'm thinking.
SPEAKER_01It must be. I'm sure it is. It probably is. Oh, Olympics. What else?
SPEAKER_03I don't know. I thought it was neat. Some of the research I was doing like early, early on, even before women really had rights, which is insane that they didn't. The same thing with African-American folks. I mean, I think if you're born, we should all have the same rights. But anyhow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. We're going to fuck somebody up, you can't tell what color they are outside.
Time Marches On And Future Hosts
SPEAKER_03I remember, don't remember. Oh my God. And this isn't the Winter Olympics, but um, you know, uh Hitler there in Germany. They were trying to flex uh and um was sure they were gonna win because they're a superior race in Jesse.
SPEAKER_01And then Jesse Owens.
SPEAKER_03Jesse Owens or whatever his name was smoked everybody.
SPEAKER_01That was the Summer Olympics, but yeah, he just hand.
unknownHe's a piece of shit.
SPEAKER_03He's dead, thank God.
SPEAKER_01He has killed himself.
SPEAKER_03Coward. Um and then like another one, um, again, Summer Olympics, sorry, Kate. Jim Ford, who was a tremendous athlete, he won quite a few medals, but they were stripped because he admitted to playing professional baseball. How they didn't know that in the first place. So it's like he's a professional baseball player, kind of public. But apparently other people actually wouldn't say that because there were professional athletes, they didn't say it, but he said that he was, and so they banned him. That's really weird. Or took his medals away. He would be an interesting one.
SPEAKER_01Didn't he get him back though?
SPEAKER_03Probably afterwards, yeah. But he would be a great topic, too, I think. But he's probably all hero.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03Probably one of the best athletes ever.
SPEAKER_01Maybe he's a big dick.
SPEAKER_03We don't know. Could be. He's not Norwegian.
SPEAKER_01He's not Norwegian.
SPEAKER_03The big dick thing and the pants still.
SPEAKER_01Oh, the pants. That's really got to you, didn't it?
SPEAKER_03But think of all the cheating.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_03That's what I meant. Pressure on athletes too, not just to like compete and do things that might be.
SPEAKER_01What did they call them? Performance enhancement drugs.
SPEAKER_03Those.
SPEAKER_01Did you ever see this with go into the summer ones too? And to even the Russian women weightlifters. Go back and look at they are like stairodians.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Oh my gosh. And they probably didn't get a choice either. It's like, can we do this or we'll kill you? Yeah, right. I guess we will.
SPEAKER_03Very crazy.
SPEAKER_01Where is the um the next Olympics will be in this year's gonna blow your mind? 2030.
SPEAKER_002030.
SPEAKER_01Because it's 2026, right?
SPEAKER_00What's going on?
Verdict On The Olympics
SPEAKER_012030. That's a year.
SPEAKER_03Does it does it feel like the days are just going by really quick now?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the older you get, the quicker they go. Scary. It is. I know you gotta do your stuffing.
SPEAKER_03You're doing it.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to. I'm on time schedule, but we're gonna wrap this up.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you gotta go somewhere?
SPEAKER_01I do actually.
SPEAKER_03Okay.
SPEAKER_01So the next Olympics. We gotta wrap this up. Shut it down. The next Olympics are in 2030. All right. The winter Olympics. And they are in the French Alps.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we'll probably be live podcasting by then. All the swag we're selling.
SPEAKER_01We're getting swag.
SPEAKER_03We couldn't even give away swag because nobody wrote us a letter.
SPEAKER_01Oh.
SPEAKER_03Isn't that hilarious? Yeah, sure. Send you.
SPEAKER_01I'm gonna be gone for a while, but after I get back, we're totally doing swag. That's the goal in March.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_01Okay.
SPEAKER_03Will that be our anniversary?
SPEAKER_01Yes. Awesome.
SPEAKER_03Five four years.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Fourth year. This will be our fourth year doing it. This is our fourth year. Crazy. I know it. We're so professional.
SPEAKER_03Thanks, everybody. But go ahead. What do you got?
Pop Culture Detour And Farewell
SPEAKER_01Um, I'm just gonna wrap it up. Unless you have anything else. I really have a whole thing of notes.
SPEAKER_03I'm ready for the summer Olympic Olympics next time.
SPEAKER_01So I guess I would say uh Olympics are hero. I think the winter Olympics are a hero because you got nothing going on in the winter. Why don't you turn on the Olympics?
SPEAKER_03February 16th, you said?
SPEAKER_01Okay. No, tomorrow.
SPEAKER_03February 6th.
SPEAKER_01February 6th, it starts through the That's today, isn't it?
SPEAKER_03That's a six tomorrow.
SPEAKER_01So it goes February 6th through the 22nd.
SPEAKER_03Nice. Okay.
SPEAKER_01So you get three weeks of it. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03All right.
SPEAKER_01So I say hero.
SPEAKER_03Brings people together, can help out communities. It gives everyone pause in the world to be like, let's just appreciate human beings for what they're capable of. Okay. I like it.
SPEAKER_01Oh, well said. Thanks. Well said. Um, before we do our fast vibe, I wanted to give uh rest in peace to Katherine O'Hara, who is the funniest person, maybe in the world. She was in so many movies I loved, and she was just funny just being there. And she always uh, and it shouldn't matter, it doesn't matter, but she always looked so good. She always had a nice outfit on. She always was not just as Moira in Schitz Creek, but just you know, she was put together. She was put together, she knew her shit. The uh again, another Canadian, the studio on Apple TV. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03That's uh we were watching her on that. That was probably the last thing I've seen her in, besides Home Alone. I rewatched, but she was so funny in the studio. Have you seen that?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I have not seen that. I do not have Apple Plus, but she was also the last thing I really watched her in, although we've been watching Shits Creek because Shit's Creek, um, was The Last of Us. And she was in the last season of that. She was fabulous. You never saw The Last of Us?
SPEAKER_03The Last of Us.
SPEAKER_01No, the is that what it's called with Pedro Pascal.
SPEAKER_03Who's Pedro? Oh, we talked about him. But for that throat function, everybody's so in love with Pedro Pascal. Did you hear about that? He's in the Epstein Files. He's not. I I believe you. That's probably the name of it.
SPEAKER_01I can't remember. It's either, yeah, The Last of Us. What is it?
SPEAKER_03A movie?
SPEAKER_01It's a series. Oh. And it is one of the best series I've ever seen.
SPEAKER_03Netflix?
SPEAKER_01Oh, I don't know.
SPEAKER_03I'll look for it.
SPEAKER_01That's on Disney.
SPEAKER_03Disney Plus. I don't know. Okay. I don't know. The Last of Us. I'm gonna watch it.
SPEAKER_01It is great. There's only three seasons, too.
SPEAKER_03Okay, perfect.
SPEAKER_01And you know what? You're gonna fall in love with them too.
SPEAKER_03Who? Pedro? Yeah. I don't think so. Uh talk to me. I think he's a charlatan. I'm kidding. All right, we gotta let Kate go.
SPEAKER_01Here's your fast five.
SPEAKER_03Oh, we gotta do a fast five.
SPEAKER_01Yep, Yeti.
SPEAKER_03Hero. He used to sit on ice cream cones in the electric company skits. Remember that? Spider-Man. They do a little Spider-Man skit, and he was going after him. He's sitting on those ice cream cones. Love it.
SPEAKER_01How about hibernation?
SPEAKER_03Oh, bring it on. More of it.
SPEAKER_01I love hibernation. Hero. I do. How about word puzzles?
SPEAKER_03Hero.
SPEAKER_01To do an hibernation?
SPEAKER_03Yep.
SPEAKER_01Cassidy gave me a great one. It's the Archie comic book. So it's got a comic on the bottom, and then it's got a word find on the top.
SPEAKER_02That's cool.
SPEAKER_01I like that. Cassidy. How about Super Bowl? Not just Super Bowl, but Super Bowl on Sunday.
SPEAKER_03I think I think Super Bowl is fallen out of favor. For me. I just don't even know. I'm probably not going to watch it.
SPEAKER_01Bad bunnies, show them what you got.
SPEAKER_03And Green Day.
SPEAKER_01And Green Day.
SPEAKER_03And by the way, I thought Bad Bunnies, um, I I'm not, I don't know. I couldn't name a song. I never listened to him. Um, but I did like his acceptance speech to the Grammys. Great. He was like, hey, yeah, don't get don't hate people.
SPEAKER_01Don't hate. We're all human.
SPEAKER_03I hear people are treating him like dog crap. Wait till Green Day comes out, though. I don't think they're gonna care. They're gonna be a little fiery.
SPEAKER_01I hope so.
SPEAKER_03I do too.
SPEAKER_01And the last fast five is France.
SPEAKER_02Front? Front. Oh oui, we're kind of a dick.
SPEAKER_03I don't want to say it.
SPEAKER_01Yes. I guess I haven't been there, so I shouldn't judge, but okay. I'm not gonna judge till I get there.
SPEAKER_03Just say it's a dip, and then when you get there, you can't prove me wrong, right? Hopefully they don't hear you. Right. We've got some listeners in France, don't we?
SPEAKER_01Well, tell us why your country is not a dick.
SPEAKER_03All right. Well, think of America lately.
SPEAKER_01And maybe it's just Paris. So that's a big city too. So maybe a Paris.
SPEAKER_03Oh, that's what France Paris. You know, I was telling you about the Hemingway thing.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03He spent a lot of time there.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he did. We're we're we will we will investigate that.
SPEAKER_03I'll tell you, uh I obviously like his writing and I'm a writer, but that documentary was phenomenal. It's uh Ken Burns stuff going on. Documentary. Uh yeah, like talk about a layered person. Yes, very dickish, but also incredibly heroic.
SPEAKER_01Michigan uh history, too. So all right, we'll talk about him some other time.
SPEAKER_02Right on.
SPEAKER_01All right, you guys, here's our abbreviated version. I don't know how long we went, but it's we went a long time.
SPEAKER_02I think I don't know. Probably at least 30 minutes.
SPEAKER_01Okay, we'll see you. Actually, we'll talk to you. Well, maybe I'll do a phone in.
SPEAKER_03Maybe you will, or I'll just do a solo one.
SPEAKER_01Do the solo. Maybe Jovi will sit in for me.
SPEAKER_03I tried to get her to come today, she wouldn't.
SPEAKER_01Oh Jovi.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Um Brooke could sit in.
SPEAKER_03She would never do it.
SPEAKER_01Oh. Um, well, maybe I'll just phone you from portrait.
SPEAKER_03We'll we'll think of something.
SPEAKER_01We'll we'll see.
SPEAKER_03If not, we'll double up when you get back.
SPEAKER_01All right. All right.
SPEAKER_03Thanks, everyone. Bye bye.
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