Pursuing Redemption
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Pursuing Redemption
Heal with God and Supernatural Weight Loss with Heather O'Brien
In this powerful conversation, Heather and I dive deep into what it means to heal with God. We explore how to recognize the voice of the Holy Spirit, how prophetic healing works, and what it really looks like to walk in freedom.
You’ll hear a live demonstration of Heather’s healing process where I personally experience freedom from a spirit of sadness, right on air. It was so freeing. I love watching God move like this!
Heather is a prophetic healing coach, minister, speaker, and author who helps Christians heal from trauma, anxiety, and depression by learning to hear God's voice and partner with Him in their healing journey. Her podcast, Heal with God, is transforming lives with each episode.
Don’t miss her next FREE Prophetic Healing Workshop on October 20, 2025.
If you're feeling stuck, this could be your breakthrough moment. Step into freedom and start living healed.
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Heather O'Brien is a licensed minister, podcast host of Heal With God, and author of several books, including No Fear Allowed, Supernatural Weight Loss, The Journey of Healing from Injustices, and But Out. She is married to Jason O'Brien, and together they have three amazing boys. Heather loves to train believers in discerning the voice of God and using the gifts of the Holy Spirit. Her relationship with Jesus solidified when he rescued her from intense fear and addiction.
SPEAKER_00:Welcome to the Pursuing Redemption Podcast with Heather Short.
SPEAKER_05:Well, thank you, Heather, for coming on the show today. It's great to meet another Heather. We're welcome to the Pursuing Redemption Podcast. Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01:I'm so excited to be here and have this conversation.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, me too. So tell us about your journey of coming to know Jesus.
SPEAKER_01:Well, well, I don't know that it's an extraordinary one to begin with. Okay. So I grew up in a in a home that took me to church every Sunday. And I do remember my salvation story, but I think I was young. I second grade. How old are you then? Like seven? I always say I was about seven. I remember going to church and then coming home. And um I just I have a very vivid memory of it sitting in front of the window, and I thought, and I was praying, well, God, I don't know if I've ever said the salvation prayer or whatever, I don't know exactly what words I used, but if I haven't, here goes. And I just remember that thought process. Of course, I don't remember exactly what words, and I was weeping. I mean, I I truly was like repentant and and and you know, concerned that maybe I had not done it yet. Um, because you know, when you grow up in church, like it just like it's almost like we forget to lead people to Christ for those who are regular church attenders, but anyways, um, yeah, and then growing up in a Pentecostal church, man, I went to church all the time, but my my big healing story, my revolution, revelation, whatever, really didn't start until I was 30. And um, yeah, that's when I started to hear God's voice. I didn't even know that was a thing. So all this time I'm saved. Now, that's not to say I didn't have times that I, you know, did stuff I shouldn't do, stepped aside for a minute and whatnot. But yeah, I didn't know that you could hear God's voice, like all this time. And then that just changed everything. That's so cool.
SPEAKER_05:So obviously that led into you having your podcast now, which is Heal with God, which it sounds like did come from some of your own personal struggles and some of the things you walked through. So, how did that come about?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, okay. Well, I started learning that I could hear God's voice with a friend and joined a group of people who were doing that together. And then I I it just it was like one slow progression after the other. And I was learning, as I was learning to hear God's voice, I was also being healed. It was simultaneous, and I needed to hear God's voice, and I needed to heal, and I needed both for them to work together. And uh the podcast was birthed, you know, a little bit later after I started learning, okay, this is actually repeatable. What I'm doing to heal with God is actually something that I could train you to do. Now, you might need healing for different things, but the same God in the same process, like I could ask the same questions, you might get a different answer, and I might get a different answer, but it still leads to healing and and fruit from all of that. And so I listen, this kind of isn't everybody's jam, but I like a repeatable process. I think Jesus does too, he wants disciples to make disciples.
SPEAKER_03:Sure.
SPEAKER_01:And so if we could keep the process of healing going by hearing God's voice and it's still unique to each one of us, um, I think he's quite all right with that. He's shown me time and time again, uh, through coaching clients, that it does work. And then I turned it into books and stuff. And so the podcast is really like, man, I just want the world to know. Like, did you know that you could hear God? Did you know that you don't have to live with anxiety? You don't have to manage your symptoms of depression and anxiety and panic attacks. You don't have to manage them. They like you could be healed. And so I like it's just I have a passion to purify the bride of Christ and to see the bride of Christ rise up and be healed and walk in the authority and power that he gave us. And that that's what the point of the podcast is.
SPEAKER_05:That's amazing. And I firmly believe in everything you just said. So it's so very true. We need to learn how to walk out our authority. So, as you have that passion and everything like that, how do you help people that do feel stuck, right? They and so many people hear this all the time because I I personally manage several Gen Z employees, and they're always like, Oh, I have to go to my therapist because I have anxiety, I have more anxiety, I have to go do this, I have to go do that. And I'm like, please stop saying that over yourself. Like, there's there's other options, right? Not that you just need to learn how to deal with it. But how do you help people become unstuck?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, well, okay, so like I said, I like formulas, but it all root like it's formulated by hearing God's voice. So I ask questions, I ask God questions, and I I call it prophetic healing because it's uh moment by moment, it's it's spirit-led. And it okay, let's we we gotta have an example, right? In order for someone to like really imagine this. So um you come to me and you say, I've been having panic attacks. Is that a good example? We'll go with that. Yeah. Okay, so if you if you want to get free of panic attacks, well, like you said, um, I've got to learn how to manage my anxiety, whatever. And I'm like, let's not manage it. And is it yours? Um I I hate the whole claim it, like saying that I have and that we have to name everything, but um, the first thing I'm gonna do is assess the situation. In other words, and and maybe a therapist would do that too, right? Like, when did it start? Um, and a lot of times people don't realize it started at a really pivotal moment in their life. Um for for instance, uh if you can remember the very first time you ever had like a really extreme panic attack, you might also remember what was going on around you. It's very likely that you'll remember certain things that were going on. For instance, um, well, I keep thinking about depression, and I know this is like it goes with it. So it's the same thing. So I just was talking to someone, I don't know, a month or so ago, and she was trying to get to the bottom of depression. And that seems so vague, but whenever you assess the situation, it's really not. And she remember she recalled the day, the like how old she was when it started. And and then I said, Well, what was going on? I'm like, Well, she was she said, Well, my parents were getting divorced. I'm like, that's it. So that's how we assess the situation. And all this time, like she's a grown woman, she had never put two and two together that the depression started. Now that I mean, it seems so like duh for us, but isn't that always the case, though? Don't we always need someone else to help us? If if anything in the Holy Spirit, because we don't know our own hearts, we we really don't know what's going on in this brain of ours. Like things are so subconscious, right? And so, anyways, anxiety attacks are the same way. So we assess a situation, and after you know, Holy Spirit kind of leads us through that, then I um the next thing is I find out, well, what are you believing about this situation? What are your beliefs? And I find out what lies we're believing in that. I call this the ABCs, by the way. Um, and so what lies are you believing about that? And it it could be a number of things, like you might not have a clue until the Holy Spirit shows you. In fact, I would say most of the time, I'm like, oh, okay. And I hear it through the lens, the prophetic lens of the Holy Spirit, just listening and noticing, ooh, that doesn't agree with the scripture. Ooh, that's not the father's heart towards you. Like if you use the word I always, I never, um, if you have any lack, if you're pointing out something that uh God wouldn't, you know, call about you, say about you, whatever, like those are the lies that you're believing. And I'm saying it's easy. We I just I do the ABCs, but I've been doing this for a long time. But also, it's the Holy Spirit doing all of the work. And so we have to rely on on him, and and there has to be a lot of faith in this. Like, I guess I have to be real with you. Like, I I have faith that he's gonna speak, and so it's not really my problem that you have depression stuff. And I I know you you've had it for 30 years, and you think you're never gonna get rid of it, but I'm over here like God's fixing to show you exactly why you have that, and I'm excited for what he's about to say, and so that faith just it's almost tangible, and the Holy Spirit just re-he wants you to be healed, and so he's not gonna not answer these questions. And um the C, I suppose the ABC method, and this C is like assessing the consequences for not getting healed. What are the consequences for keeping these beliefs? Yep. What are the consequences not for you, but for other people around you? Because oftentimes the thing, like whatever you want to get healed of, maybe it's an addiction. Oftentimes you already know how it's affecting you. It's affecting your health, you might have long uh shorter years of life, uh, you're not as energetic, or maybe you have like physical ailments because of whatever this thing is, but you haven't considered that you are affecting the people around you. I know for me, like let's go back to me for a minute, right? Whenever I uh wanted to quit smoking, this was a hot minute ago, but yes, everyone's like, you smoke, yep. It was part of my story. I used to smoke cigarettes and um the Holy Spirit delivered me from it in a in a roundabout way, but the beginning of it was I wanted to get pregnant. Hmm. Okay. Okay, and so it was it wasn't about me anymore. Oh, I wanted to get pregnant, and I definitely wouldn't smoke while I'm pregnant, and I definitely would not smoke around kids. Like it was just non-negotiable for me. It was just something planted deep in my heart at some point in my life, and um that propelled me to want to quit. Now, I'm not saying that's what broke my chains. I've got a whole it's a whole uh story of freedom there, but really like it started with the consequence of I don't want my kids to be to experience this addiction too. Sure.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That's a really great story. Hope it comes along with it. No, I I love it. Yeah, this is fantastic. Yeah, no, that was a really great example. I love that. Uh so I did maybe want to shift just a little bit because I noticed this in some of the things that you talked about as well. And I really I'm in a season, a season of waiting on a promise, and I know so many people, so many people right now that are waiting on promises, like relationships and babies and promotions and God restoring the years that the locusts have eaten. So what would you say to those people who are just secretly feeling frustrated and helpless and alone to those of us that are waiting on a promise?
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, that's a really good question. And you know, I don't want to take that lightly because I'm still waiting on promises too. Like I'm right there with you. Um, but the the Holy Spirit did convict me of something uh at one point, and this teaching really did kind of hit home with me and stick with me. Um, there's actually a Proverbs for it, Proverbs uh 13, 12, and you're probably very familiar with it. Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but a dream fulfilled is a tree of life. And sometimes we we take that verse and we're like, yeah, of course I'm heart sick. I have hope deferred. And it sounds so reasonable to just stay there because and I can't have this tree of life until my dream is fulfilled. But that's actually, I mean, all of that's true, but let's go deeper for a minute. Let's go to the New Testament. Like, Jesus wants you to live an abundant life right now. Like, he's all about the journey, not necessarily the destination. And a lot of times he shows us the end. Like he, I don't know about you, but he shows me a point, not Z, but like Z to the nth degree. And I have no idea how to even get a B. Like, I don't know how to get there, I don't know when I'm gonna get there. I like, like, okay, maybe he showed you all these babies, but you you don't even have a boyfriend, right? And it's like, uh, okay, God, like my ovaries are getting old. I totally get that. I totally get it. But the but okay, let me just boil this down to this is what the Holy Spirit kind of convicted me of. So I'm I'm like in my prayer closet, and um the Holy Spirit is showing me that I'm disappointed. Okay, and I'm like, yeah, of course I'm disappointed. The XYZ hasn't happened yet, or it doesn't even look close. Disappointed. And he points me back to this verse about um hope deferred, you know, being heartsick. And I'm like, okay, yeah, yeah, that make that makes sense. I'm disappointed, I've got hope deferred, so yes, I'm heartsick. And then he directly goes to, I hope you're staying with me. Am I I don't know okay, the fruits of the spirit in Galatians. You know, there's love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, and self-control. Okay, depending on what translation you've memorized, maybe the the one that I just repeated wasn't yours, but there's one in there that says long suffering. Yep. Okay, long suffering doesn't sound like a fruit of the Holy Spirit. It feels contradictory. It it doesn't it feel like long suffering and hope deferred would be the same thing. It felt if I I was like, yeah, okay, okay, why do I feel like I lack joy, but also I've got the fruit of long suffering? He's like, you don't have the fruit of long suffering, you have the fruit of disappointment. I'm like, okay, what? Okay, long story short, hope deferred is not the same as this gift of the Holy Spirit, this fruit, and no, I guess I should have said fruit, sorry. The fruit of the Holy Spirit is long suffering. Okay, so if you're having if you have long suffering, it's actually a gift from God in the sense that you have the ability to have joy in the wait. One of the best examples that'll hit this home is you're waiting for your loved one to get saved. I I don't know if God's ever done this for you, but I actually had a dream at night of a whole the whole thing where my brother got saved. He's not and he's still not saved. And I had this dream so, so, so many years ago. And I like I saw it and I still see it. Like it was that vivid. I saw I even had the I even had the conversation with him, sat down on the table and um did deliverance with him. Like it was a whole thing, and and I keep bringing it back to the table. I'm like, God, you said, which is what we're supposed to do in our prayers. God, you said. But at the same time, God, you said this, so it's coming. Do you see how like my voice inflection just changed? Maybe if you were reading that on a transcript, it wouldn't sound the same. Like, I'm excited. There's excitement. Oh my goodness, I can put this in the bank. God, you said it. So, like, no matter what's going on right now, no matter what I see, um, he's been in jail many times. It's been like a just a mystery. Like, how is this gonna happen? Doesn't seem possible. It doesn't seem like it's coming. It and so long suffering has so much hope in it. It has so much joy in it. God, you already said this. And I'm just reminding you, you said this, and I'm so excited about it. I'm looking forward to it. Let me know if there's a way I can partner with you in this today. If not, like put me on mission today for my today's mission. Um, okay, so I hope that hit home. Like, disappointment is like it's never gonna hit. There's no hope. Notice hope deferred. And so God is a God of hope. And so if you don't have hope, you're not resting in God. Like you're um, you're missing it. And so I the word disappointment is like um, I'm so passionate about this. I'm like, okay, Heather, calm down. Okay, so the word disappointment is like, you know, um, not okay.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Well, we often think that that's an emotion that we, yeah, of course I'm disappointed. And as soon as I hear that word now, I'm like, oh, hold on. There's either either like a judgment or there's like uh not God in the picture. Like God is excluded from this, and it's not long suffering anymore. It's not the fruit of being with God. So yeah, that was a long-winded answer about like, I understand what it's like to have goals, dreams, desires, and yet it doesn't look that way. But we got to look at the big picture of what is God doing. And I guess um, the verse that's coming to is Matthew 6, 34. I think Jesus, this is like red letters, he says, um, today's worries about are enough for today. And so he's like making it clear like you need to focus on today. And so I bring those prayers to him maybe once a day. I usually like now, this isn't biblical, this is Heather. Heather says, like, I'll pray about this one time. So if today's worries are enough for today, then it's kind of like, okay, this is Heather's idea. I pray about it one time a day. Sure. And then I I I challenge myself to not bring that back up because then it becomes a worry and not a prayer. And that's how this is it says not to worry. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:I know I was reading a book recently by um Dr. Henry Wright, A More Excellent Way in Health. I love that book. And yeah, it's such a fantastic book. And one of the things that really convicted me was like people don't think of worry and fear and some of these things as actual sin.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my god, we need to repent of that, you know.
SPEAKER_05:So there are some days I walk around and I'll be thinking about some of this stuff, and I'm like, oh Lord, you know what? I'm worrying about it. I really need to repent because I'm worrying and not bringing it to you and just laying it at your feet. I'm just holding it and carrying it around and not being faithful, you know. Right.
SPEAKER_01:Which causes the anxiety, and then yeah, absolutely. That's not of God. That's not it's not peace, love, joy. That that's not in the fruit of the spirit. Anxiety is not one of them, and it's not something we're supposed to manage. And even the worry, like, man, I love how you you said that. I'm like, I'm not, I usually don't have people on my side. I'm like, this is a sin. We need to repent of worry. Uh I'm not saying that, you know, we don't, we're not tempted. Um, I I think there's lots of opportunity to be worried and anxious. That doesn't mean that we have to own it though. And and the prayer, like prayer once a day, is the whole point of it is to be mindful, to take every thought captive. Oh, I'm thinking about that again. I've already given it to Jesus once today, so he's got it. I can talk to Jesus about something else right now.
SPEAKER_05:About the promises that we're all waiting on. Yes. So I would love to talk about supernatural weight loss. I thought it was so fun that you had some videos and podcasts on this subject and everything. And I would love to hear a little bit about your journey and how God helped you lose weight.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah. Okay, so he helped me lose I I just want to preface this by he helped me lose weight physically and spiritually. Okay, so it's both and. And I wasn't very much overweight, probably 20, 30 pounds. Like that's that's where I was at that point. But okay, uh, my weight loss has been a whole journey. I'll tell you about that in a minute. But, anyways, um, I had the dream, I heard God's voice, and but in the dream, stuff came out of me, like really weird things. I don't know if you are into dream interpretation or not, but they were really weird things, and so I knew they were metaphors and I had to like chew on these things. But I don't remember everything, I'd have to go look at the dream, but I remember a whole chicken, like a uh a cooked chicken, like you rotisserie chicken walking out of me, for instance.
SPEAKER_05:That's interesting. I'd have to go look that one up, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Right. Um, there were it it was a list of really odd things and people walking out of me. And um, and then I was then okay. So that began the journey of like, whoa, I could pray for this weight to come off. I didn't know that was a thing. And so I started, I I did this is in my book. I started doing some really fun things like uh wearing a pair of pants that didn't fit, they were too tight. And I just was like, I was determined to like muster up the faith I needed uh in order for those pants to fit me and my body to shrink to fit those pants. And so I thought, you know, what more faith could you have than to put these pants on that are so tight, so uncomfortable, bursting at the seams and wear them to work with nothing to change it to. Um, and so I did that. I did a lot of different things like that. Like in the morning when I would get dressed, I would um I would, I had a whole stack of pants that didn't fit. Okay. And I wanted to get back into them. And this was like in between babies. I had I had lost weight and I had um, I had actually lost a hundred pounds at one point. Wow. And that was without God, by the way. Um okay, maybe that's not saying it just right, but I wasn't praying about it. Okay. He was always with me, but I wasn't praying about it. I was learning how to count calories, and that's all I did. I counted calories and I lost weight, but it took two years, and that was in between baby one and baby two. In between baby two and baby three, I gained more weight because that's what you do when you're pregnant, right? Yeah, you eat. And um, I wanted to lose that weight back, but this time I started praying about it, and then I had this dream about it. I'm like, oh, this is a thing, bro. And I, anyways, the pants didn't work. I was just uncomfortable all day. Um, but I did have some things that did work. Okay, so I just I do want to build your face just a little bit. So there was times when I would take a measuring tape, put it around my belly, and um I I would stop, pray, put the measuring tape back around, and I had lost inches. There was times I would do the same thing with the scale. I would get on and then I would get off. Uh uh, pray, and then I'd get back on, I would lose weight. Like that was like instant things. I did see that. And then I did uh I did start praying about it. And in between baby two and three, I did lose 50 pounds in six weeks. Yeah. So I would call that supernatural. Um, it that was with that was losing weight with God on purpose with God the whole way. And then there's just there's been other stories along the way. I don't know about you, but I gain weight here and there, and you're like, I gotta lose some weight. And there's times when it doesn't work, and God is like determined to show me why it doesn't work, and that's where I say there's spiritual stuff in here too. Like physically, there was stuff going on, but spiritually, I was learning how to love myself. I was learning how to love myself by stewarding the body that God gave me. I was learning how to forgive myself. I was learning how to forgive other people. Like all the this is all part of my healing journey while I'm losing weight. It's all like, it's all meshed together.
SPEAKER_04:Sure.
SPEAKER_01:Uh there was physical results, but it was a lot of prayer time and soul searching with God. Like I learned how to forgive people and release judgments, and that is super natural weight loss. I have led so many people through the I have like a three-step prayer model to forgive from your heart. And by the time they're done, like I've had people literally lose weight. I've had people feel lighter, but also literally lose weight. Um, I I mean, I I've had I remember this one client at a meal, and I was talking to him, I don't know, uh, I think it was like weekly, every other week, for like a month or so. And we were just talking about different things about like about his uh mental health and relationship health. I was talking to his wife separately too, and we were just working together, just making their life better. And one day he's like, I don't know what's happening, but I'm losing I have lost so much weight. And I was like, hold up, I don't know if you need to lose weight. Did you like he didn't even know that that was something I carried to even ask me if, you know, I would pray for him to have supernatural weight loss. Like a lot of times I'll pray for people and they lose weight, but a lot of times there's a lot of um Holy Spirit prayer. And yes, I I will definitely pray for whoever wants prayer. I I mean, I I believe that um healing our body comes by losing weight a lot of times. And so if God is healer, he wants us to steward what he's given us. We also need to learn how now this was a big part of me. We had to learn how to steward what he's given us. So if if I pray for you right now and you lose 50 pounds, I know you don't need to lose 50 pounds, but like I injury.
SPEAKER_05:I just need to lose five.
SPEAKER_01:Five. Oh, okay. No worries here. It won't come off. Come on, Holy Spirit. Um, okay, so we're gonna pray, and I uh we could get down to the bottom of this if you want to. We could do a little prophetic healing session right here.
SPEAKER_05:Oh, that would be fun. We've never done that on here. That would be fun. All right, let's do that right now. Yeah, are you sure?
SPEAKER_01:I'm totally open. Yeah. Oh, this is gonna be hot fire. I'm already feeling it. Okay. You said I heard you say this just a second ago. You said I couldn't, I can't lose it. Like it won't leave. Okay, so how long have you been holding on to it?
SPEAKER_05:Oh, it comes and goes. So I would say I lost it sometime last year, and then it's it's come back in the last few months.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, so go back to the last few months. What we're doing is assessing the situation. Sure. Last few months, what's been going on in your life?
SPEAKER_05:Oh boy, here we go. Um, I I was dating someone who pretended that they wanted to get married, and then that ended up not working out, and we broke up.
SPEAKER_01:I I'm so sorry.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Oh, that that just hurts.
SPEAKER_05:Uh so the weights come on after the breakup. I just haven't really like watched what I've been doing and and everything. And then um, on top of that, I have been trying harder in the last month and some of it's come off, but um yeah.
SPEAKER_01:All right, you see what we just did? We assessed the situation. Did you realize that it went together?
SPEAKER_05:I did. I I had a feeling it did, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay, okay, good. All right, so we know when it started, but we need to find out what you believe about all of that around there. Okay, so I have what I call three questions deep.
SPEAKER_02:Okay.
SPEAKER_01:And so one question, I'm gonna ask you a question that I feel led by the Holy Spirit to ask, and then you need to give me an answer and you just throw spaghetti at the wall. Like, don't give it to me like polished or anything, okay? All right, so Holy Spirit, what's the first question? Has food been comforting you since this heartache? Yeah, okay, so um do you normally reach to food for? Comfort any any other times of your life?
SPEAKER_05:I have previously, yes.
SPEAKER_01:Okay.
SPEAKER_05:But a long time ago, when I went through domestic violence, I gained a ton of weight and then I lost it afterwards. But the domestic violence, I was eating all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Yep, that's normal. I'm sorry that you went through that. Whew. Okay, final question. Holy Spirit. I I feel that asked something. I'm like, oh, and he's like, no, just do it. Okay. Um, do you know that it's wrong to reach to anything for comfort other than God?
SPEAKER_05:I guess so. I guess I hadn't really ever thought about it that way.
SPEAKER_01:Okay. Okay, good. Well, okay, then we're we're we've we figured it out. But so we have to assess what lies you're believing in that. And that shows me the lie that you're believing. And the and like I um I hear that you didn't know that you were reaching to it for comfort, and that is wrong. And so we match that up to the truth. We know Holy Spirit is comforter, so food can't also be comforter, they can't be cool, yeah. And so it's almost like the lie that you believe that this was okay, that this was reasonable. And I would say the world says it definitely is. Like it's like go get a pint of ice cream when you get a breakup. That is the normal thing that's publicized on uh in movies. I I might be on commercials, ice cream commercials, whatever. Yeah. And so I would say um, I if you if you're ready for freedom, sure, um, it just looks like repenting. It it and then I'm gonna pray for the Holy Spirit, supernatural fire, deliverance of these five pounds. Ready? Yeah. Okay, you you okay praying? And are have have we um have I uncovered you at all? I don't want to do that.
SPEAKER_05:No, you haven't you haven't done anything that I haven't shared before.
SPEAKER_01:Okay, okay. All right. Um, so you could pray this in your own words, or you could repeat after me, and I would say something like, uh, God, please forgive me for reaching to food for comfort instead of you.
SPEAKER_05:God, please forgive me for reaching to food for comfort instead of you.
SPEAKER_01:And now I want you to take a deep breath in, and as you do that, you're inhaling his forgiveness and you're exhaling all the judgment. There's no condemnation in Christ. Woo! Yep. And I just release the fire of God on you from head to toe. And the sadness I tell to go. Hmm. I tell the sadness to go right now in the name of Jesus. And the extra weight that has been comforting you, you have no more authority to stay on her. You will leave right now in Jesus' name. I release the fire of God to burn out every impurity in thought, word, or deed. Every covenant that she's made with food that is food is her comforter. I I rebuke you. And Heather, you just renounce it. You say, I'm I I renounce every agreement with food that food is my comfort. And right now, I just release the fire of God to burn out every impure thing, whether it's uh physical or spiritual, right now. Out, out, out, out, out, out, out. I thank you for your God shaker. Fire, come out, come out, out, out, out. Yep. Whoa. How what are you feeling? What are you experiencing?
SPEAKER_05:Um, I don't feel so sad anymore. Wow. Oh, that's so good. Yeah, I've been having thank you, Jesus. There's a lot that goes with that story. So I found out some things literally 30 minutes before I walked in here about that whole situation, and I was like, oh booger.
SPEAKER_01:Oh my goodness. God is so good.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah, thank you.
SPEAKER_01:That was really amazing. Wow, wow, wow, wow. And um, okay, so you coughed during that. Did you notice that?
SPEAKER_05:I did, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And so sometimes there's little subtle things, and I didn't notice this in my own deliverance story till months later. Like, I I laughed till I coughed, till I was crying, whenever the Holy Spirit was just overwhelming me with his love. And I thought I was coughing because I was laughing so hard.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:And it seems reasonable, but now I look back and I'm like, no, I was getting rid of some stuff. And so I just bless you to get rid of some stuff and keep it gone. You already said the sadness is gone, so I bless you with that. Bless you with the weight loss. It's gonna be so easy, so easy. Wow, God is so good. Thank you, Jesus. So good.
SPEAKER_05:That was amazing. And it also speaks to a little bit about I think part of my personal journey with everything has been some of this developed, I would say, when I was younger. Just I I heard the message loud and clear that in order to be beautiful or desired or anything in this society, right? That you had to look a certain way and you had to be skinny. And I think for me personally, that brought on a journey of self-hatred that I've had to deal with. I shouldn't say had to deal with. I have dealt with at different times and been released of things. And then sometimes I've realized, oh, wait, it goes a little deeper than I realized. And there's just more layers to uncover and dig out and get rid of, you know. What would you say to the people that have dealt with that? Because I think it is very prevalent in our society because of the messaging that we hear all the time.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, it's good. And I've experienced that too. Um, and I would say, like, our healing journey, no matter what you're healing from, it's usually like an onion. And there's lots of layers. And so while you might say, I've already done this, I've already prayed that, I've already done that, and God's like, have you prayed about this part of it? Have you forgiven this part of it? And so, like, I just want to reassure you that it's okay that that you're on a journey and you haven't arrived. I think we all need to hear that message sometimes. It is okay to be imperfect, but on our way to perfection, right? We're we're on our way, we adhere to conviction. We hear the Holy Spirit convicting us and we say, Yes, sir, that's important. Um, I'm not approving of staying in sin, but I would say, just like we said, worry is sin, that self-hatred is a sin. And until we hate it or hate sin, whatever the sin is, we won't really want to walk out of it. And so I guess that's a first step of it. Like, if you really hate a sin, um, pornography, uh, the your addictions, your like if you really hate reaching to come, like reaching to food for comfort is a sin. And like I've experienced that, I have been convicted of that. Reaching to TV for comfort. Oh my goodness, I have some stories. And so all of that does say we have to call self-hatred a sin. And here's how I would get you there. Jesus summarizes all the law, all the demands of the prophet. This is hundreds and hundreds. The whole Old Testament, he summarizes it and he says really to do two things. And I I kind of like break it out into three just to make it really clear. He says to love God and to love your neighbor as you love yourself. And so you only ever love your neighbor as much as you love yourself. So if you hate yourself, you're gonna hate your neighbor. I don't care what you say, that's just how it's gonna work. And so you're not gonna fulfill the one thing Jesus said to do love. It's not just loving him, and it's not sacrificing yourself. It's not, you know, being a people pleaser or duramat, and it's not comparison and coveting a perfectionism. That's not loving yourself, it's really just loving yourself because God made you, you didn't make you. I I think that's kind of the thing that sealed the deal for me was hearing the um analogy of like, okay, but you're the clay and he's the potter. He made you. How dare, like I felt the Holy Spirit tell me, how dare I say I'm not good, I'm not made right. It's like we're talking, like, if you don't like your nose, you don't like your ear, you don't like this, you don't like that. It's like, God, you did a bad job. And so when I reword it like that, that helps me see it as a sin, right? That helps me feel the conviction and the weight to actually move forward. Like the Holy Spirit never convicts us without propelling us forward to do the thing he's asking us to do. If he says don't worry, that's because there is a way not to worry. If he says don't have self-hatred, that's because there's a way to love yourself. And it's really just being so full of the truth. God loves you, he made you perfectly. He loves you, he loves you, and um loving you is actually doing everyone else around you a service, and it's doing the opposite if you don't love you. So I hope that's helpful. So I would just say to you, like, you can't force this. This is something that you asked, you you need to ask the Holy Spirit to help you to do. Like with his power, all things are possible. It's not in your strength that you can muster this up anymore than I can muster up supernatural weight loss or enough faith for those pants to fit. It just doesn't work. It's in the power of God, and um, yeah, so I hope that's encouraging that we all go through that, but also let's let's move forward with the Holy Spirit's power to to love ourselves. That's right. That's so good.
SPEAKER_05:So, how do you see God moving in your ministry today?
SPEAKER_01:Well, you've just kind of experienced it.
SPEAKER_05:I did.
SPEAKER_01:Um, I help people heal with God by hearing God's voice in in a really similar format to what I led you through, the ABCs and you know, assessing the situation, finding out what lies they're believing and the consequences. But then I also like I'm a deliverance minister. I cast out demons regularly, whether it's um of your thoughts or it's actually a spirit, like people are walking through deliverance regularly with me. Um, and then the other side of this is I am so passionate about making sure you know why it got in, like how to get it to stay away and like stay free. I want to get you free, but I want to help you stay free. And so I'm I'm super passionate about the whole deliverance thing, and I actually won't do any deliverance on you till I know that you're gonna do the things that's gonna like keep you safe and secure in Jesus' arms. Sure.
SPEAKER_05:Instead of people just walking back into it.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, there's no point. I feel like that's just a waste of my time and yours. And you'll be worse off, is what Jesus says. So yeah.
SPEAKER_05:That that's a really good point, though. I think a lot of people, I mean, the I don't know about you, but the Lord revealed this to me a while ago, and I thought it was an interesting point. He's like, just because someone goes through deliverance doesn't mean they're healed.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:And I was like, oh, I had never thought about it that way. Like they got rid of the things, uh-huh. But there's still some healing that they need to do. Exactly. And there's still some journey there.
SPEAKER_01:So and yeah, that's what I no, that's exactly what I'm so passionate about. Is like, let's get to the root of why it's there and get on get to the underlying belief systems, right? Because yes, I could cast out this thing, and you had a spirit of sadness, by the way. And so you need to know I got free of a spirit of sadness. I think there was a spirit there. I don't think it was just you for it to be night and day like that. And if you know you got free of it, then you got to know how it came in for the first place. Like, oh, you you kind of know, but also you dwelled there, you dwelled in the hope deferred, probably, or something like that. So uh yeah, anyways, I'm just really passionate about helping people get free and stay free because it all goes together. And deliverance isn't just casting out demons, that's like the first step.
SPEAKER_05:Yeah.
unknown:Yeah.
SPEAKER_05:Absolutely. So if you could tell someone to pursue redemption and chase after Jesus, what would you say?
SPEAKER_01:There's a really easy way to do that. Uh well, say do it today, like don't wait another day. In fact, it's so easy. There's only uh two things that you need to do in order to make it to heaven, and that is repent and put your trust in Jesus. But you actually have to do that every day. It's not just an altar call, it's not just one prayer. So repent means to turn from your sin, to call it sin and not do it again, to say you're sorry, but not keep redoing, keep doing it over and over. Repent means I'm done with this way. I'm gonna turn 180 degrees towards Jesus. So to put your trust in Jesus is like, I'm not gonna trust in food to comfort me. I hope that's okay. I'm giving you your ex on example. You're fine. Yeah. And then, but I am gonna trust in Jesus to comfort me. I'm gonna, I'm gonna believe by faith that I can ask him for comfort and he will answer me. Because there's a lot of hope and expectancy that has to come into that. Okay, so what would I say? I would say repent and put your trust in Jesus, and then follow that up with the things that will help you put your trust in Jesus, and that would be Bible worship, prayer, and community. Bible, worship, prayer, and community. You do those four things regularly on a regular basis. You're not gonna manage anxiety and panic attacks and depression. You're not gonna manage these symptoms anymore. They won't be around. You're gonna feel conviction when they come and you're gonna repent and put your trust back in Jesus.
SPEAKER_05:Well, this was so amazing, Heather. I really appreciate you coming on today.
SPEAKER_01:What a joy! This is such a this is such a fun treat for me to get to do prophetic healing live with you. And um, I'm so proud of you for being vulnerable and and letting me do that with you. I'm sure that's gonna help so many people.
SPEAKER_05:It will. It definitely will. Well, thank you for coming on.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, I bless you. And if anybody else wants to do the live prophetic healing, I do that exact coaching live every third Monday of the month. If you go to heatheroprian.net backslash workshop. I every third Monday of the month you can sign up for that same kind of coaching.
SPEAKER_05:Awesome. We'll be signing up.
SPEAKER_01:Yay!
SPEAKER_04:Here I am all right, better glushing in the store. Here I am taking a better glory in the store.
