"Mystery Drones" Unmasked. Hint:They are UAP

In this riveting episode of the Fortean Winds podcast, RamX and Bones delve deep into the enigma of the so-called "mystery drones." What were once thought to be simple UAVs are now definitively identified as something far stranger—UFOs or UAPs! Armed with compelling evidence and insider revelations, the duo reveals insights about the craft's incredible capabilities. They also name key individuals linked to the secrecy and suppression surrounding these phenomena. This is an episode you can’t afford to miss if you're chasing the truth behind the skies’ greatest mystery. Tune in to uncover what’s been hidden in plain sight!


Read our analysis of the events and spread of the UAP mystery drones between November 18 and December 24 of 2024:
https://forteanwinds.com/2024/12/24/new-jersey-drone-uap-timeline-and-geospatial-analysis/

Explore the timeline and track the spread of the UAP not-drones here:
https://forteanwinds.com/2024/12/15/the-new-jersey-uap-drone-event-timeline-map/

Read our Historical Analysis of UFO and UAP activity in New Jersey here:
https://forteanwinds.com/2024/12/14/unidentified-aerial-phenomena-uap-investigations-in-new-jersey-a-comprehensive-analysis/

Transcript

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 hey everyone welcome to the Fortean Winds
 podcast where we talk about UFOs and all 
 the related High strangeness I go by the 
 name of Bones and with us is the 
 notorious RamX hey hey everybody hey Ram 
 hey this is going to be a short but 
 sweet holiday edition of 14 wins we we 
 had to record just to talk about the 
 drones a little bit of update right yeah 
 I mean we promised a quick update and I 
 think everyone's talking about it it's 
 really on everybody's mind so and we've 
 done a bunch of research and we have a 
 bunch of analysis so let's get it out 
 there just just so everyone knows RX has 
 been working his ass off putting this 
 analysis together so this is this is an 
 important time so uh let us lay it on us 
 thanks man I appreciate that yeah put in 
 put in some hours I mean if there was 
 ever a time when uh some data was needed 
 I think it's now and you and I talked a 
 little bit about how we were going to 
 standardize the data collection last 
 time and that helped so we we ended up 
 going with we're going to use Jersey as 
 a baseline we're going to use the 
 description of the craft as a Baseline 
 and we're going to say only things that 
 match that description are we're going 
 to track in this timeline so you can 
 check out the map and event timeline on 
 14 winds there's an really cool 
 interactive map up there um click on 
 that and then you can hover over the 
 different sightings and check out the 
 intensity of the different sightings so 
 and then on the timeline what you will 
 see is a synopsis with location and 
 investigation updates on each of those 
 sightings and a news source because you 
 were saying how there's just a lot of 
 noise out there huh yeah all all kinds 
 of noise I I think um the biggest 
 learning experience that for me in in 
 this whole experience is that I just saw 
 how the the news progressed at first it 
 was it was the reports were real simple 
 we got real simple descriptions and all 
 that and then just the noise that every 
 after report after report just got 
 noisier and noisier right what what do 
 you consider noise unpack that a little 
 well I I think first of all the noise 
 really comes from just the fact that 
 people are curious right so I remember 
 the guardian was really good at uh 
 bringing up bringing up this topic and 
 and being analytical about it but 
 suddenly when when the story got big I 
 think everyone just started to launch 
 their own 
 drones that did happen yes yeah yeah and 
 and and then reporters too everyone 
 started to fall forward just hey what's 
 that in the sky they they don't know the 
 difference between a a regular 
 recreational drone or a professional 
 drone or anything they don't know what 
 the hell they're looking so let's talk 
 about a little bit about the noise then 
 and then how our event timeline cuts 
 through that a little bit you know to 
 some to some degree and allows us to get 
 a clearer view the noise is coming from 
 every direction we have right we have 
 the news media who realized that people 
 are really into this story and then 
 wanted to create some sensationalism 
 behind it and what I see being noise is 
 that the news media is recycling 
 information constantly in order to keep 
 right writing articles about it they're 
 just rehashing the same information and 
 that's making it really hard to tell 
 what's new right right so exactly right 
 so one of the the ways we we went about 
 and um where I've been doing over the 
 holidays is uh scanning the news reports 
 every day you know and then trying to 
 figure out okay where has it been 
 reported and validated by the news and 
 we you know we try to we always try to 
 do that when we do analysis we always 
 try to make it conservative and that was 
 how we were going to make it 
 conservative is say well we won't count 
 it unless it was reported by the news 
 and that allows us to cut through a lot 
 of the noise um it was harder to find 
 those reports because like I said the 
 news was rehashing everything and but it 
 did cut out all the social media hoopla 
 we there's a ton of reports in social 
 media and we can look at social media 
 and get a better idea of of the 
 intensity of these sightings like we 
 know there's tons of good social media 
 videos coming from Jersey and we know 
 that that's a super intense area and so 
 we can look at that for intensity but as 
 far as tracking the real spread of this 
 I think we've been relying mostly on 
 local news reports and I I really think 
 that that was the right way to do it and 
 then we we or I guess I did this over 
 the holidays cuz yeah yeah yeah I I'll 
 I'll take that the credit of the blame 
 um and so uh yeah I put together an 
 interactive map uh which is pretty cool 
 um technically I think but uh that's 
 neither here nor there but 
 um we love Maps here by the way yeah we 
 love Maps we love data and Maps yeah 
 dorks um so so what the interactive map 
 is going to show is that these sightings 
 started on the East Coast as you guys 
 know in New Jersey and Jersey became 
 what I would still say is the epicenter 
 of this it's still still that area of 
 hottest intensity it's still the most 
 widespread and we talked about the 
 sensitive sites that that are around 
 that we have analysis going around those 
 sensitive sites um up on our website so 
 that's what that was about and then it 
 spread it spread all over the East Coast 
 uh at this point the only state that I 
 couldn't find a local news report with a 
 sighting was Georgia on the East Coast I 
 can find some for pretty much all the 
 other states States so all up and down 
 the East Coast but then it started 
 appearing sporadically on the west coast 
 there was a random Oregon sighting um 
 there's been a bunch of sightings in 
 Southern California now so but those 
 started sporadically those started 
 around Camp Pendleton near tula and 
 those looked like Recon or just you know 
 uh smaller probing activities those did 
 not right I mean it looked like the main 
 fleet was moving from East to West and 
 it still does is that is that a Marine 
 base yeah Camp Pendleton is a Marine 
 base Pendleton yeah yeah right right but 
 you have a naval base just south of 
 there oh sure yeah and 29 Palms there's 
 a bunch of stuff in Palm Desert you're 
 not too far from JPL space force is on 
 the west coast which I'm a little 
 surprised I I haven't read any reports 
 around space force but there's some 
 conspicuous absences here and and that's 
 notable so a couple of conspicuous 
 absences in the data 
 Nevada and uh the area around space 
 force which is central 
 California H yeah not much reported from 
 those areas yeah and Nevada's Area 51 I 
 mean it's supposed to be Ground Zero and 
 not much reported I've been I've been 
 looking but if anyone out there hears of 
 that stuff and it's a news report we're 
 going to try to do that uh local news 
 report just to kind of cut through the 
 noise I mean we know that obviously 
 people reporting real things on social 
 media but we have to somehow create a 
 way to look at this and we would have 
 never been able to track the spread if 
 we were just trying to take in all of 
 those different inputs right yeah yeah 
 you one of the um things I've seen 
 online I I haven't really looked into it 
 myself though is that people are 
 monitoring flight uh data you know you 
 can get like an app called like flight 
 Trad yeah yeah or flight yeah and 
 they're seeing they're they're 
 monitoring the the the patrolling 
 basically cuz you can kind of notice 
 when when Flight tracks are patrolling 
 because they're obviously going in a 
 pattern and I saw that there was a there 
 was a lot of patrolling going on on the 
 in the 
 southwest you know in the in the Pacific 
 coast so I don't know yeah there's Super 
 Active that someone's been posting like 
 the USAF transponders of um the Air 
 Force right you know where are the Air 
 Force planes today and they sure look 
 like they're looking for something right 
 right so let's talk a little bit I 
 wanted to talk a little bit about the 
 conspiracies going around and whether or 
 not you know we see any validity in 
 those or whether or not they are 
 supported by the data at this point 
 these sightings are worldwide we haven't 
 been tracking the international 
 incidents as closely and I just can't I 
 don't have the time to go through all 
 the other Count's news as well as ours 
 um um and I'm only going to keep this up 
 for uh till the end of the year um and 
 that's really at this point I don't I 
 think it's the people who've used needed 
 the data used it and so if you're if you 
 need the data and you're using it let me 
 know but I I'm going to only keep it up 
 for us until the end of the year so that 
 we have a historical record of this this 
 is the biggest Mass UFO contact sighting 
 ever like this is this is the biggest 
 that we know of in history so I wanted 
 direct a record of what went down and 
 when and we're going to want that going 
 forward especially when some of the 
 Smoke Clears we're going to want to know 
 wait what happened you know just like 
 the balloon Affair last year so I think 
 we're going to want to know wait what 
 happened because this is how they they 
 keep the disinformation and 
 misinformation going is they make you 
 forget about what actually happened 
 right um so we're going to try to 
 prevent that but yeah I wanted to talk 
 about some of the conspiracy theories 
 going around which ones have you heard 
 conspiracy 
 oh my 
 god um I always have my my filter on you 
 know when it comes to that stuff uh 
 conspiracy theories you know it's it's 
 been more about just kind of a balance 
 for me because there's a lot of Skeptics 
 and a lot of people really trying to uh 
 you know to to put um a a a human a 
 human hand on everything you know um or 
 I I don't that's any that's a weird way 
 of saying it but there there a lot of 
 naysayers out there still sure there's a 
 lot of naysayers which is that let's 
 talk about that first naysayers who are 
 saying this is all manned aircraft or it 
 is prosaic objects in the sky so we have 
 law enforcement who've been recording 
 and tracking these objects on infrared 
 and thermal and they've avoided that 
 sort of 
 detection right there is no commercial 
 drone that can do that so we're looking 
 at some sort of advanced military grade 
 drone and there's there's nothing public 
 that tells us what that would be so what 
 you're now you're talking about a fleet 
 of advanced military drones because they 
 cannot be commercial I'm sorry but no 
 they no they can't right but but that's 
 the thing that that's we go back to my 
 my early argument what I was saying is 
 that we used to get much more precise uh 
 uh information earlier because early we 
 we were told that these things were uh 
 the altitude was ranging from like from 
 like 100 ft to like 30,000 yeah yeah but 
 we don't hear about that much anymore 
 right because it Bust The Narrative 
 there's no drone that goes that high the 
 highest I think a like a successful 
 drone flight has been it's been like 
 15,000 it's like half of that right 
 right you're not getting there there's 
 no way and uh and then to say say that 
 there's a fleet of those flying around 
 that someone figured it out and built an 
 entire fleet like no so the the big 
 conspiracy and and I I have to accept 
 that this is somewhat plausible or or 
 somewhere you know believable that that 
 it is the government that it is right I 
 mean this is let's talk about that for a 
 second because at first I I dismiss 
 stuff like that kind of out of hand 
 because I I see somewhat of the military 
 intelligence Community as being Keystone 
 Cops but they sure they've sure pulled 
 the wool over everyone's eyes on this 
 one so you know may maybe it was 5D 
 chess I don't know but you know I I I I 
 don't think that the government in mass 
 is to is organized enough to carry out a 
 conspiracy it has to be coming from a 
 very small group and that that is what 
 our evidence suggests and I am going to 
 give you a few of those names today are 
 you te are you teasing you're teasing 
 I'm teasing well we haven't got there 
 like how can you talk about the UFO 
 control group you know I know uh I I 
 guess mid break right there yeah right 
 right 
 right so they avoid thermal they stay up 
 in the air too long the they avoid 
 infrared too high of altitude they're 
 not drones they're not drones so either 
 we're looking at a hyper Advanced or the 
 most common name being thrown around for 
 this sort of deep government conspiracy 
 is to call it some sort of deep State 
 activity or Project Blue beam which is 
 an idea that the government is enacting 
 this as some sort of psychological 
 control or manipulation you know what it 
 is my least favorite theory for all the 
 reasons I just told you because I just 
 don't think that they got it together 
 enough to do something like that but I 
 will I have to say it's it's possible I 
 it doesn't really match the evidence in 
 a lot of ways because it is worldwide so 
 uh and it makes the it's mostly in the 
 US so it's just making the US look bad 
 our military is looking bad our elected 
 officials are looking bad it's just 
 making the US look overall weak and 
 stupid and this is the most powerful 
 military force as far as we know to ever 
 exist right and they look powerless 
 right now so it doesn't really match up 
 unless this is like some sort of Cobra 
 terrorist organization remember Cobra 
 from GI Joe like that would be if this 
 was like a private entity that like you 
 know or Hydra from Marvel you know that 
 some sort of um comic book like um you 
 know group out there doing this and I 
 know people love these sorts of 
 conspiracies but it'd be hard to pull 
 off you got to admit that without all of 
 us knowing um yep so least favorite 
 conspiracy theory here what I do think 
 is happening and I'm going to publish 
 our uh 
 analysis and this wasn't just me this 
 was me and a couple of people as well as 
 a couple of robots so we went through 
 that whole timeline the event and news 
 analysis timeline as well as the spread 
 of the map and we decided okay this is 
 what it is and it's one of my favorite 
 analysis I think we've ever done it is 
 the best one it's maybe a page long 
 because that's what a real intelligence 
 analysis should look like and it's just 
 the facts and it's just a few options 
 and those few options are either an 
 advanced Breakaway 50 to 100 years ahead 
 human segment of this society that could 
 be part of the government it could be 
 who whoever you want to name there what 
 whatever name you want to put there 
 that's one option option two is that 
 this is non-human 
 intelligence the only incident where we 
 have seen this sort of scientifically 
 known Behavior electromagnetic 
 frequencies avoidance of detection is in 
 non-human intelligence Associated craft 
 so that makes these most likely to be 
 non-human intelligence now would the 
 government be launching their hyper 
 advanced stuff to go intercept or or 
 interact with these things yes 
 absolutely that will be part of the 
 misidentifications is my neighbor Bob 
 flying his drone every day for the first 
 time in year years yes Bob is part of 
 the 
 identification and he was doing that 
 while I was charging mine and I'm like 
 what am I doing problem so uh yeah no I 
 that's what it is so we've either got 
 one of two options let's cut through the 
 noise either it's deep state or blue 
 beam or government crash retrieval UFO 
 control group whoever you name them 
 either it's them or it's these nhi but 
 it's really definitely these NH I are 
 part of it yeah whatever else is up 
 there let's figure it out as we go who 
 knows that's what we asked on the last 
 time here we go who knows who's in that 
 UFO control group I can give you three 
 names I can give you George Bush Jr Dick 
 Cheney and Bill Nelson head of 
 NASA those are three 
 people three people called 
 yeah they so you're saying that they 
 know what's going on right now I'm sure 
 that they know what's going on right now 
 and they have a say in 
 it huh they have a say in it oh yeah so 
 how this all works um this is being held 
 in defense contractors right now who's 
 calling the shots right if it's not the 
 president and if it's not Congress who's 
 calling the shots that means it's the 
 Pentagon and the Pentagon can do that 
 because they're hiding behind 
 classification who's got control of the 
 classification if it's not the president 
 and if it's not Congress who's got 
 control and who's kept it all this 
 time it's been the same group of people 
 and how would they keep 
 control without being an elected 
 official by controlling the defense 
 contractors and controlling what they 
 call government in andout that's what 
 grush said at the first hearing remember 
 we called it out wait way long ago 
 government in that's key focus on that 
 cheny was one of the most 
 famous Booyah and we just followed that 
 thread it didn't do it until now but we 
 did and you you are definitely one of 
 them dick you're definitely one of 
 them interesting there there will there 
 will be more there will be more the 
 problem is how do you what do you do do 
 you subpoena them and bring them in 
 front of Congress they're just going to 
 hide behind classification there's 
 nothing you can do but telling you where 
 to look yeah I'm telling you where to 
 look you're talking about Dick Cheney 
 what about Dane Cook so like we have Dan 
 Cook now very very popular what he's 
 actor comedian yeah yeah yeah yeah he's 
 posting his own his own stuff yeah Dane 
 Cook was up on the roof of funky in 
 Beverly Hills and he spots a uh a 
 mystery drum and he does a really long 
 good capture it's on X or Twitter and we 
 also linked to it right there on the 
 timeline um because it was a long one 
 and there was a news article about it so 
 it counted uh but yeah it match totally 
 matches the description of Jersey now 
 what was it doing over Beverly Hills 
 because we pointed out most of these are 
 grouped around sensitive sites and right 
 why would it be overly Beverly Hills 
 you're pretty some would say that 
 Beverly Hills is the most 
 sensitive why would it be the most 
 sensitive I'm just kidding so yeah why 
 is that you're digging it grave right 
 now yeah right um no well there's no 
 sensitive targets there right or or no 
 sensitive military installation I 
 shouldn't say that no there is high 
 value targets there's a ton of high 
 value targets there so if you're looking 
 for something sensitive you were looking 
 for someone and these drone thingy uaps 
 I think are looking for 
 someone among other things or or logging 
 and cataloging they're looking at people 
 yeah yeah yeah well yeah it's almost 
 like they're they're egging us on they 
 they want to see us looking up they want 
 us to see them clearly yeah and and but 
 the the public reaction is still bizarre 
 you know we're still not saying 
 unidentified we're still not saying UAP 
 and I I just feel the need to point out 
 again UAP P characteristics are 
 scientifically known they're in 
 Department of Defense reports they are 
 in scientific papers they have been 
 publicized by the news media so they are 
 scientifically known if these things 
 match which they do those all of those 
 things they're fraking 
 UAP you know you want to blame blame 
 them on whomever blame them on whoever 
 but they're 
 UAP all right so now what yeah that's a 
 great question so there's a mayor name 
 Ryan herd from New Jersey and this is a 
 super connected Tech guy and he went out 
 and figured out a a way to start 
 attacking the problem you know 
 technically uh the right way and he got 
 experts and he got stonewal he got 
 stopped by the federal government they 
 don't want to solve the problem they 
 don't want us to know more information 
 about the problem right they want us 
 they want to Stonewall and hope it goes 
 away uh without giving us any more 
 information about what is in our skies 
 and what we've been interacting with 
 since time a 
 memorial right right so they can stop 
 law enforcement but there's nothing 
 stopping you from putting an SDR uh up 
 and it's you could get one for about 40 
 bucks on Amazon you can turn your laptop 
 into a software to find radio so if 
 you're in one of those hotpots collect 
 some frequencies see see what signals 
 are going out you know um pretty 
 interesting experiments and then share 
 it out but I as far as the the US 
 government is concerned it's going to 
 take intense pressure that is what is 
 next because if they're stopping last 
 time we recommended law enforcement take 
 these steps law enforcement was taking 
 those steps along with local authorities 
 so right right if that didn't work then 
 and the government stonewalling that 
 then it's up to us to put intense 
 constant pressure on them yeah for sure 
 Congress needs to threaten the purse 
 stop playing right I mean it just it 
 just seems like a whole cat and mouse 
 game like they just it's just nothing's 
 really going to come of it they tease us 
 a little if we roll over and let him and 
 I'm shocked at how many people are 
 rolling over and let him you know that 
 there reminds me of that uh Marvel's 
 coming up a lot today but that that 
 first Avengers movie you know that when 
 um the Loki is is walking through he's 
 like you were born to be lad like you 
 you it 
 you know that that infuriated me when I 
 watched that in the theater I was like 
 no we're not this is making it look like 
 maybe at least this big segment of the 
 population is is that way yeah that they 
 they really just want to be led they 
 really just want to go back into their 
 digital cage and and call it a day yeah 
 so I mean all in all what we need to do 
 uh we need to get together we need to 
 pressure Congress and and people if if 
 you want to really make a difference and 
 this is this is real go to 
 house.gov and you could find your 
 representative they have a whole like 
 little deal find your representative 
 call them you leave a voicemail tell 
 them that you want to know what the 
 hell's going on and and and pull pull 
 the nuclear options say tell us what's 
 going on or defund the 
 dod you know right right the Congress 
 has the power of the purse yep they 
 should they should be able they're 
 they're supposed to be they're they're 
 the biggest congreg are supposed to 
 speak for us y do it use use what you 
 got that's right so that's the only way 
 the checks and balance is work that's it 
 right I mean the president is the 
 commander-in-chief the 
 commander-in-chief is Off the Grid uh 
 you know doing whatever he's getting ice 
 cream so that means it's up to Congress 
 the Senate is not supposed to do that 
 right so it it it's got to be Congress 
 yeah yeah that's a great call I hope 
 people do that well hey um we should 
 probably end it there this is just just 
 a short update when it comes to the the 
 so-called drones we're not going to call 
 them drones anymore so wipe that out of 
 your vocabulary no more foran but hey 
 thanks for listening happy holidays 
 everyone oh yeah it's the holiday it's 
 going to be Christmas so uh look I am 
 super grateful especially right now that 
 we have such a wonderful audience and 
 thank you for listening for sure I mean 
 to be able to talk about this in a 
 rational way and I'm sure a lot of you 
 feel the same way like you really want 
 to cut through the noise and I'm just so 
 grateful to we've found uh all of you 
 and you have found us and that we can at 
 least try to attack this with some sense 
 of logic and reason definitely right on 
 have a happy holidays you as well buddy 
 all right take care take care this is 
 the 14 wins podcast thanks for listening 
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