Epstein’s Web: Mapping the Crime, Influence & Disinfo Machine

In Episode 35 of Fortean Winds, we take you deep into the Jeffrey Epstein saga—one of the most brazen cover-ups of our time—and show how money, influence, and raw power build a misinformation machine:

• The Infrastructure of Corruption
  We discuss Epstein’s inner circle—lawyers, bankers, powerful friends—and reveal the financial arteries that funded secrecy and silenced victims.
• Misinformation & Disinformation Tactics
  From planted news items to legal gag orders, learn how strategic leaks and media manipulation kept Epstein’s darkest crimes out of the headlines.
• Network Mapping Deep Dive
  Using open-source data, court filings, and leaked documents, we trace connections between financiers, institutions, and high-profile enablers—and explain why knowing the structure matters.
• Why It Matters for UAP & Beyond
  Discover parallels between the Epstein cover-up and other large-scale secrecy operations—how the same playbook of influence, branding, and narrative control is applied in politics, intelligence, and even UAP disclosure.

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https://open.substack.com/pub/rememberingwinds/p/money-power-and-corruption

Plus: Key takeaways on how you can spot disinfo tactics in real time and arm yourself against powerful networks that prefer to operate in the shadows.

Transcript

00:00:00:00 - 00:00:25:07
Unknown
Welcome to the Fortean Winds podcast, where we talk about UFOs and all the related high strangeness. I go by bones. And with us, as always, is remix. Hey, everybody. Hey, Ram! So today we are going to depart from the paranormal and talk about cover ups. And there's a big cover up right now being covered by mainstream media and, not not covering it enough.

00:00:25:11 - 00:00:56:23
Unknown
We need to discuss that. Yeah, I think everyone needs to discuss this right now because this speaks to the type of institutional power structures that are the absolute worst and commit the absolute worst crimes. So, look, if you've got us here, something got really caught up. Yeah. This is a very weird story, but I don't think it involves anything paranormal, and it just involves human evil and secrecy.

00:00:57:01 - 00:01:22:08
Unknown
Let's start with a what if. What if I told you the most prolific trafficker in modern U.S history wasn't just protected. He was enabled, financed and insulated at every level of society. This episode isn't about conspiracy theories. It's about court documents, signed immunity deals, sealed files, and testimonies buried for decades. We're breaking down the operational infrastructure of Jeffrey Epstein.

00:01:22:10 - 00:01:57:05
Unknown
How an unqualified math teacher became a billionaire financier, and how his network still hasn't been held accountable. Yeah, I mean, that's the Epstein infrastructure. So we got to get into that. So today we're going to talk about his mysterious hiring by OSS Officer Donald Bar at Dalton Private School, which is a very prestigious private school. And Donald Barr is the father of Trump's first attorney general, William Barr, which will become very relevant to the story and his financial legitimization by Les Wexner to his full spectrum installation by the US legal system.

00:01:57:11 - 00:02:23:20
Unknown
Epstein was enabled, protected and ultimately allowed to die with no justice delivered. Yeah, so this guy dropped out of college. He was from what Coney Island in New York and somehow gets this position teaching position at a really prestigious private school. Right. Is that right? That's how it begins. Yeah. Dalton School and the headmaster of Dalton School is Donald Barr.

00:02:23:21 - 00:02:52:11
Unknown
So Donald Barr is not only the father of William Barr, he's an author. Okay. Go. And he's an author of a science fiction book which has been described as both profoundly pretentious and disgusting, not. And it's about this space faring society of elite oligarchs who end up enslaving this planet. And using the people there as their sexual playthings.

00:02:52:13 - 00:03:19:19
Unknown
And it's really because they're bored and sadistic. And these are the types of power games they play, and it's kind of got this amoral character to it. So that novel is now worth 200 bucks on eBay. Wow. And that's Bill Barr's father who authored that. Yes. Strange. Yeah. Okay. Any authors? This prior to hiring Epstein. So you could think that's a couple of different ways.

00:03:19:19 - 00:03:35:08
Unknown
I'm actually glad we're talking about this. On 14 wins. I was thinking about us doing a little detour and doing an entirely separate podcast, just a short series on just this subject, because it's so important. And we'll talk about that at the end. But let's go through the facts, because I think the facts are damning all on their own.

00:03:35:10 - 00:04:00:19
Unknown
Yeah. I mean, I think it gives us a really good, look into basically government cover ups and in gaslighting at a giant level. Yes. So that book, when I had one of our AI tools, which we have, all these criminal analysis tools that I will discuss at some point also today, but I had it doing a comparative analysis of that book to Jeffrey Epstein's crimes.

00:04:00:21 - 00:04:28:21
Unknown
And it uses GPT as its underlying AI and and it flagged me for community guidelines. So the point is the comparative analysis was so disgusting, I guess that GPT was like, we can't even discuss, right? Right. And I'm actually grateful for some of that. But the the correlation is beyond coincidental. You know, you can believe that that's the universe talking to you.

00:04:28:21 - 00:04:52:14
Unknown
And maybe it is. We talk about some of that stuff on this show. Synchronicities do tell us something. But I don't think so. I don't think that this was anything paranormal. I think this was someone telling you what they were going to do before they did it, because that guy then hires Jeffrey Epstein, right. And the rumors began at of him being inappropriate with kids.

00:04:52:16 - 00:05:18:02
Unknown
Oh, so Bart ends up leaving in a huff. Some sort of administrative kerfuffle. And Donald Barr's previous experience was as an OS intelligence officer, which is a precursor to the CIA. And as we discussed, and this will become relevant in this case, David Gross set it on the floor of Congress, which is a matter of historical reference. And we have even the government historical documents that document all of this.

00:05:18:02 - 00:05:50:21
Unknown
This year, when the CIA was founded, it was the OSS. It was the Vatican. It was organized crime, and it was big money. Banking, utilities, natural resources owners, that sort of thing. Right? That's who founded intelligence. Okay. So one of the things that we were ahead of the game on, and if you've been listening to 14 wins, you're familiar with is the difference between assets and agents.

00:05:51:02 - 00:06:19:03
Unknown
And that's going to come up a lot today too. Just to recap, in five seconds, an asset basically is doing what they're doing on their own. And the handler, the agent is behind them, enabling them, supporting them, making sure they keep doing it right. An agent is doing something intentionally. They know for whom they work. Now, this stretches beyond the three letter agencies that everyone wants to name is the bad Guys.

00:06:19:05 - 00:06:48:16
Unknown
This difference between assets and agents became very relevant here when recently Pam Bondi calls in all these influencers into the white House and she hands them what the Epstein case file. That's finder's right. Right. And she has them show it. Like, look, we we gave you all the evidence. Yeah. They had old photo app outside of the white House with them all holding up the binders.

00:06:48:18 - 00:07:15:06
Unknown
So funny thing about those binders, not only did they contain already available public information, but they attempted to redact the already available public information. Yeah, they weren't just public. They attempted to reset the public information with less information. Right? Right, right, right. So that's an asset. And some of those people are really upset about that and are speaking out against it.

00:07:15:06 - 00:07:33:15
Unknown
I think Liz Wheeler was one of them that I saw recently. Just really spot on about what happened there. Like she was used she was used as an asset. It's it's not just the three letter agencies that do it. It's this network that does it. And that involves the journalism field and it involves media. This is how it works.

00:07:33:15 - 00:07:55:17
Unknown
There's a lot of historical evidence of this. There's been congressional hearings where all of this stuff came out. So it becomes especially relevant here, and we're going to watch it all play out. So Barr is a part Donald Barr is a part of that. William Barr's father is a part of that. He's the one that introduces Epstein and to elite networks.

00:07:55:17 - 00:08:19:15
Unknown
And so there he is, with no college degree being inappropriate with females and teaching math and physics at one of the most prestigious schools in New York. So that's how he gets into the scene. How does he how does he make all the money? Because wasn't he worth $1 billion? Yeah, that's going to get into Wexner and his financial legitimization.

00:08:19:19 - 00:08:41:21
Unknown
One thing that has been pointed out many times is that it's just purely unclear as to why he got as wealthy as he did. There he ends up going from being a math and physics teacher with no college degree to working at Bear Stearns. Again, just mysterious. Moving up. Yeah, not even failing up. He's just mysteriously moving up with no credentials.

00:08:41:22 - 00:09:12:22
Unknown
So less. Wexner is the CEO of L brands, and he gave Epstein power of attorney and New York City mansion and full financial autonomy. And Wexner never fully explains why. He says, oh, it's because Epstein helped him with his taxes. And that was $170 million. Okay. All right. And then he says all of the information that Epstein gave him was publicly available.

00:09:13:00 - 00:09:40:09
Unknown
So Wexner story is basically that he gave Epstein a $170 million for a Google search. Yeah, and that doesn't make a lot of sense. No, it doesn't it, it almost sounds like, so where it all began, like if there was some kind of, blackmailing going on already at that point. I think that's one of the open questions, and we should point out some of the open questions that everyone wanted from this disclosure.

00:09:40:09 - 00:10:01:01
Unknown
That is, now they're saying never going to happen. So it's important for us to point out what those open questions are, because one way they're attempting to gaslight us is by saying there is no client list. He didn't write on a whiteboard who their names were and what they did right. For some reason, we don't hear about it, in the news lately.

00:10:01:01 - 00:10:29:14
Unknown
But I remember when the FBI cracked open Epstein's vault in his new York City home. They made a statement saying they found CD-ROMs with videos, and all those CD-ROMs were labeled with frickin names on them. And suddenly that's gone. I mean, we're just supposed to forget about that. There was also speculation then that these these were being used as basically tools of blackmail.

00:10:29:16 - 00:10:54:08
Unknown
Yeah. So every one of his properties was covered in cameras, right. And this is one of the things that just doesn't add up with what the FBI is saying now or the Ed, the AG, and I can't believe that the FBI's involved. I just don't want to go off on that right now. But the FBI is typically the most legal of any of the agencies.

00:10:54:10 - 00:11:17:02
Unknown
So legal, in fact, that I think they're often ineffectual. Their hands are tied. Yeah. So the fact that the FBI is engaged in this cover up is just beyond the pale. We all really need to scream as loud as we can. Yeah. And, you know, while we're seeing basically a purge of of people that work for the FBI, also.

00:11:17:04 - 00:11:43:06
Unknown
So what's changing? So what's happening? The evidence, you know, and that's why it's so important that we keep track. So in order to keep track, just like we do with UFOs, which is so important because we know the evidence disappears, we know that there's real evidence, we document it and then that evidence disappears. And we have the proof because we documented it and kept it.

00:11:43:08 - 00:12:05:12
Unknown
And we know how important that is. So just like that it's important that we do that during this time. And to that end we put together a 35 part Twitter thread, 280 characters per, post. And it covers basically everything that we're talking about today, which is all coming from court documents, public records, official news sources, hearings, that sort of thing.

00:12:05:14 - 00:12:36:22
Unknown
This is legal as and we say, alleged when it's alleged. We don't want to see anyone go down for this. That didn't do anything right. But the people who are clearly involved have never had their names cleared. Right. So if they have nothing to hide, they shouldn't be afraid of the investigation. All right. We have to make the correlation because of the gaslighting that we always see when it comes to the UFO topic.

00:12:37:00 - 00:12:59:03
Unknown
It's right. It's constant. Some some new information comes up, bunch of sightings happen. You have people in power that are saying, oh, wait, hold up. Maybe there is something. And then it comes back with a bunch of gobbledygook and and the narrative completely changes. Yeah, you have the message and you have the narrative, and that's something I want to introduce talking about today too.

00:12:59:05 - 00:13:25:06
Unknown
So what the intelligence field and these people. Right. These people have power and influence that we just discussed were there at the founding of the CIA and continue to play these games in their own way. They play these games in the media. They play these games in geopolitics. So it's the same game assets. Agents influence the same types of games that are being played in intelligence are being played in all of those different places.

00:13:25:09 - 00:13:46:18
Unknown
Yeah. And in those places you have the message and you have the narrative. So the person who wants control just wants to tell the message, right. So in this case, the message from Trump, when a reporter asks about Epstein the next day after they say case closed, he says, why are you still talking about Epstein? How dare you?

00:13:46:18 - 00:14:08:09
Unknown
Why are you aren't you telling me about all of our successes, right? And our tragedies? Right? Like tries to immediately shame him into shutting up? That's the message, right? So then it becomes a narrative by people who want to believe that. Right? And the narrative becomes, oh, Trump is just saying that because he's working on something in the background.

00:14:08:11 - 00:14:32:18
Unknown
Well, we'll see, but there's no evidence of that right now. There was the message that he wanted you to shut up, and then you created a narrative that gave people permission to shut up. Right. Yeah, totally. Because we're seeing people with their kimonos off. Who are you really? Were you really after the truth or are you a surrogate for someone in power.

00:14:32:22 - 00:15:02:13
Unknown
Right. And look at them in this moment because the facts are damning. So if they're trying to confuse the message and the narrative, if they're taking a message from anyone because there's people on the left and the right in America that are caught up in this. Yep. So if they're taking a message from anyone and trying to spin that narrative, and I've seen it on MSNBC and I've seen it on Fox, they're trying to basically say it didn't really happen, and it's the other party's fault, right.

00:15:02:15 - 00:15:29:04
Unknown
But they're both agreeing that it didn't happen. Come on. Yeah. No, it happened. And it's whoever ends up being caught up in it's fault. Yes. There's no client list, but there's flight logs, there's communication records, and there's a ton of video. From that, the brilliant investigators at the FBI should be able to put together a client list.

00:15:29:06 - 00:16:01:01
Unknown
Oh yeah. Call it whatever you want to call it. I would call it criminal coconspirators which have yet to be prosecuted. The only one that was prosecuted was just Lane Maxwell. How could she be a criminal coconspirator if there was no conspiracy? Right, right. So to the end of keeping track, we began a 35 part Twitter thread that covers pretty much concisely everything that we're going to talk about today factual format, all sorts from public records and court documents, things like that.

00:16:01:01 - 00:16:22:10
Unknown
It's a cheat sheet. For those of you out there who are researching this case on your own, or especially if you want to create some media or get the word out in whatever way you do, use that as a reference, a starting point to begin your investigation and go, okay, I can dive deeper into this part of it and will be happy to be supporting your work as well.

00:16:22:12 - 00:16:42:02
Unknown
So please share it. Please like it. We actually got we actually got on Xcom to go do that. We've never done that for you off of this one. We really want to get the word out. Yeah, it is a little bit of a shouting match up on there, but I just don't care at this point. There's just facts on there.

00:16:42:02 - 00:17:05:23
Unknown
So please like it. Share it and let's get the word out. There's also a master document where I don't know where we're going to publish. Yeah. That maps out the operations behind this network. I'll figure out somewhere and drop a link in the podcast description. Yeah. So I mean, to go back to Epstein's timeline and, you know, he mysteriously gets this job with Bear Stearns making a ton of money.

00:17:06:04 - 00:17:35:00
Unknown
Then what goes what goes on from there? He builds he builds this network of evil, basically. Yeah. He starts building this network of influence right at that point. And so that's where the list of more than 100 names of celebrities and influential people come from. But some of those people have allegations in the public against them. And when the FBI says case closed, people like I'm sure Prince Andrew you know very good like so he was stretching out.

00:17:35:00 - 00:17:54:18
Unknown
You had Bill Clinton, you had Donald Trump. You had people from different parties. You had people, you know, their names are all in it. If they want them cleared, they should want a full investigation, and they should want the evidence to come for sure. You'd think they'd want to clear their name right? So that's where we get a lot of the pictures.

00:17:54:18 - 00:18:14:17
Unknown
That's where we get a lot of the videos from Epstein and celebrities. That's where the allegations come from. And then in the public, I think people start building in the public. People start building your list, right. Who they think is guilty. And this ends up being like UFOs, where everyone wants the Epstein conclusion to be whatever they think it should be.

00:18:14:17 - 00:18:42:04
Unknown
Right. And all of their people vindicated and all of the other sides. But look, this is a matter of power and morality and I think it stretches beyond any sort of simple political party. But yeah, I mean, it really is it's a moral argument. I mean, why can't the US justice system or institutions why why can't they resolve something like this?

00:18:42:06 - 00:19:10:11
Unknown
It's obviously very wrong. Yeah. That legal firewall which we're going to talk about. But the network structure had an inner circle. It had operational support, it had elite participants and it had institutional protectors. Right. So in the in the inner circle, we we had one person get charged. And in the inner circle you've got Maxwell, you've got Kellen, her assistant Groff.

00:19:10:16 - 00:19:37:07
Unknown
Mark and Nova. Oh Brunel did get charged. Brunel is a guy who runs a modeling agency, and he has a bunch of crossover with Epstein, and he ends up getting charged, and then he dies in prison of an alleged suicide. Now, all of those people that I just meant mentioned end up getting protected in a 2008 Non-Prosecution agreement because Epstein ends up getting busted.

00:19:37:08 - 00:20:11:04
Unknown
That's right, for messing around with minors. And the attorney of the Southern District at the time is Alexander Acosta. And that name is probably going to sound familiar to you because he was Trump's labor secretary during his first term. And this stuff came out and he had to explain it. And what he said was why he gave Epstein that non-prosecution agreement and this incredible sweetheart deal, which will give you some details about, was because he was told that Epstein belonged to intelligence and it was above his pay grade.

00:20:11:06 - 00:20:36:19
Unknown
He was the attorney for the Southern District of Florida at the time. Who's above your pay grade? Supreme Court justices, presidents. Yeah, but where he's talking, he was talking about Epstein being an agent. Yes. He said it was belonged to intelligence, which could make him an agent or an asset. Well, guess at that point he would have to have been an agent because he would have known for whom he worked.

00:20:36:22 - 00:21:07:10
Unknown
Right. It's really not a question of whether or not this was an intelligence operation. It's a question of to whom did it. The law. Right. So all of those inner circle end up getting protected by Acosta in that deal, and Epstein goes to jail. But after a few months, he's allowed to go out on work release. He has a couple of deputies go with him on these work releases, and they answer his desk for him, and they have to wear suits while he's in jail, right?

00:21:07:15 - 00:22:02:01
Unknown
Yeah. Go into his office being driven by his driver. Right. Obviously, we already see a huge disparity because if Jeffrey Epstein was a construction worker, he would not be being treated that way. Right? No doubt.

00:22:02:03 - 00:22:10:11
Unknown
He.

00:22:10:13 - 00:22:34:03
Unknown
Said we already see it. You would drop off even if you didn't believe this was an intelligence operation. In terms of equality under the law. So we were talking about the four tiers of this network structure. And the second tier would be operational support. The inner circle gets protected by Acosta. What happens to the staff, the butlers, the assistants, the pilots?

00:22:34:03 - 00:23:02:04
Unknown
Well, they all end up giving testimony. That's a matter of public record, right? And then the third tier was the elite participants. These are royalty, as we mentioned. These include presidents. These include billionaires. And these people were named in flight logs. And we know this. And he did seem to like, try to buddy up with just high profile individuals.

00:23:02:04 - 00:23:35:04
Unknown
Like I'm not sure if it was just like they're trying to create this rich guy social club because he had his own head, his own island, right in the Bahamas. Like he come to my island little party and be rich together and you know it. Just with that comes some twisted or whatever. They only Bill gates, who I think met with him four times but said he had no friendship or business relationship with him, said that the reason he was doing so was he thought Epstein would be helpful in getting the Nobel Peace Prize.

00:23:35:08 - 00:24:03:04
Unknown
Oh geez. Okay. College dropout. Yeah. Failed math and physics teacher, right? He would be really helpful in getting the Nobel Peace Prize, right? Case is not closed. So then you have the elite participants. What's the next layer of the structure? The next layer of the structure are the institutional protectors. This is Department of Justice. In this case there's judges.

00:24:03:06 - 00:24:30:05
Unknown
There's the media, there's prosecutors, there's defenders. There's the court system. Right. They all step in to protect the elites. And here we're seeing the most egregious example of it I have ever seen in my lifetime. The only thing that comes close to this level of slap in the face open corruption is the Warren Commission. Is JFK. And this is worse.

00:24:30:10 - 00:24:54:21
Unknown
This is objectively worse in every way. There is so much more evidence that so much more was going on. Yeah. And we're being told to shut up and take it. We cannot allow this to happen. No, I mean, they ruined the lives of of minors, the victims. I mean, it's horrible. Yeah. I don't want to talk about the horrible stories here today, but there was one that just got me.

00:24:54:21 - 00:25:21:16
Unknown
And I'll say it in the most succinct way I can. But him flying in 12 year old triplets from France for his birthday, and then flying them back the next day, if that doesn't enrage you. Yeah. And I think that Trump and whomever else is wrong, I think that you're wrong. I think that more people agree with us than you.

00:25:21:16 - 00:25:45:02
Unknown
I think more people in the world, I think more people in America. I think that you're wrong. Yeah. It's sick. I mean, it's on the surface. It's surface. It just looks like a tale of just excess. Right? You just have these twisted individuals that just can never get enough. He's got his own island. It's not enough. It's like.

00:25:45:02 - 00:26:13:19
Unknown
It's just. It's insanity. It's gross. Yeah, it's basically Bill Barr's planet or Bill Barr. It's basically Bill Barr's dad's planet. Right? Right. Yeah. Weird. And that's okay. Coincidental, I guess. But it's super weird. Yeah. So that's the how the network works. And we outlined all of that in the Twitter thread. And we'll have a larger document as well.

00:26:13:21 - 00:26:31:19
Unknown
Let's get back to the timeline. So he he gets out of prison early of course. And then he immediately goes back to doing what he was doing. So he was enabled at that point. He was enabled by Acosta. And then the victims come after him. And there's allegations that that Bondi got in the way of the victims getting paid out.

00:26:31:21 - 00:26:54:06
Unknown
Think about it. You know, Bill Clinton, he he's on that those flight logs like a lot. And if there was yeah. Any chance of sticking it to any Clinton you know for sure there would be a client list coming out if. Well, if it was all one side or the other. Right. That's what I mean. I think DOJ didn't move on it either.

00:26:54:06 - 00:27:16:00
Unknown
Right, right. Yeah. If it was all one side or the other, they would have done it. Probably. It's not all one side or the other. How and why would you think it is? Why do you think morality follows these corporations? That's what political parties are. They're corporations. So a big part of this is also the properties. Epstein's famous island, which is called Bleep Island.

00:27:16:05 - 00:27:40:18
Unknown
Yeah. And then you had the Manhattan townhouse which was loaded with cameras. So that's the one where we know there's a ton of evidence that should come out that isn't there's the Palm Beach place, which was documented in lawsuits as being a site of abuse. So people who went there, you know, let's let's hear it. What happened? You know, a quick drive to, Mar-A-Lago from there.

00:27:40:18 - 00:28:02:11
Unknown
Right. There's Zorro Ranch in New Mexico and Bill Richardson, the governor of New Mexico, also a Democrat that is very high up in the party as the allegations against him here, too. Yep. And then you have the apartment in Paris, which was a European trafficking gateway. And a lot of these girls came from there. So we document how that worked.

00:28:02:13 - 00:28:27:15
Unknown
Yeah. So I mean, they had like a whole system of just grooming. Right. And it seemed to. Yeah, it was a system of grooming and control. Yeah. And it worked in a systematic manner. And there was they look for girls that were vulnerable runaways, you know, emotionally unstable. And then they began body and up to them giving, showing them what wealth look like.

00:28:27:15 - 00:28:48:15
Unknown
Right. And then they started testing them out with massages. And then they test them out a little further and see how far it goes. And then they would reward silence. They had a system of rewarding silence. Yeah. And I think I remember hearing like, you know, they're at a certain age where they were trying to sell the idea of like a college scholarship to and stuff like that.

00:28:48:17 - 00:29:19:09
Unknown
Yeah. Then they would turn some of the victims into recruiters as they aged. Yeah. Became trusted. That is some sick shit. It is. And for what? You know, just because they have this twisted, society of just depraved, super rich guys, it's just. Yeah, I mean, this is how psychological warfare works. Yeah, they were using it on minors, like, this is some sick stuff, you know?

00:29:19:11 - 00:29:41:20
Unknown
So all of this horror and then all of this protection and all of this lack of justice makes us all ask, why. And the leading theory, which I can hardly even consider in a theory like, how are you calling this a conspiracy when it's completely documented in the open? And like the Non-Prosecution agreement we link to? That's not a conspiracy.

00:29:41:20 - 00:30:10:01
Unknown
It happened. Right. It's just it's it's history. Obviously this makes it look very likely we would go by the same types of intelligence analysis that we do for everything that's on the about section 40 and went yeah criminal cases are no different. We would go obviously this looks very much like an intelligence operation. You have camera systems in every resident's rooms were rigged for surveillance.

00:30:10:03 - 00:30:37:05
Unknown
Multiple insiders claimed Epstein was used to compromise elite. Yep. And then you're right. And then you have the succession of blackmail plus leverage equals immunity. Right. So powerful people who have a name like a Ehud Barak, who? The former prime minister of Israel, I mean, would they even, like questioned by investigators at all? I mean, probably if they were, why not tell us?

00:30:37:05 - 00:31:01:14
Unknown
Yeah. I don't you want don't you want your name cleared. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. It when you put it that way. You're right. It's, it's just you start to see it as this just network of, of folks protecting themselves or protecting each other all the way to the top. It's the only reason for silence, you know, a crime this bad.

00:31:01:19 - 00:31:29:12
Unknown
I mean, we're not talking about one incident. You know, the JFK incident was terrible, but it happened on one day. Like this happened to over decades. The protection happened over decades. Yeah. And it was institutional protection. William Barr closed the loop on Epstein's death case. Judges sealed Maxwell's docks. The media suppressed victims for decades. The media was complicit.

00:31:29:14 - 00:31:52:14
Unknown
Yep. Names are still redacted in the flight logs and civil suits. Pam Bondi blocked cases as the Florida AG and she ends up being the AG of the US, right? Right. So she so she's rewarded for for that for that shady conduct. Yeah. So forget about the client list. We're not asking for a client list. Let me be very specific of what we're asking for.

00:31:52:16 - 00:32:18:13
Unknown
Many coconspirators are unindicted. We would like to know why. Is it because you did the investigation and cleared them? Because you're not saying that, right. The civil lawsuits are sealed. We would also like to know why, and we would like all of the information that came out of the investigation from the island. And I it's sad for me to see people giving up today.

00:32:18:15 - 00:32:43:01
Unknown
I feel like people are giving up on like day three, right? Yeah. Oh well it's because. Oh well, well we can't fight City Hall. Yes you can. Yeah. I mean, we've done this, dude. No one here even has super powers, right? We can do this. Right. And let me tell you how America isn't the only set of laws in this world.

00:32:43:03 - 00:33:10:10
Unknown
And it's not the only set of courts. Epstein's crimes spanned the globe. So anyone can prosecute this fool and his coconspirators. And I don't care. These dead. Let's keep prosecuting them. Yeah, we can also, in the US begin a process of focus. Sure. Yeah. We can keep track. We can hold accountable the people who promised us answers and didn't deliver them.

00:33:10:12 - 00:33:35:01
Unknown
Dan Bongino, Kash Patel, who literally got into those positions saying they were going to give us the truth on this. They betrayed everyone. Yeah. And what about the island? I mean, that was part that was under some estate, Epstein estate. So what did they put yellow police tape around the whole frickin island? I mean, white why why isn't that being investigated in more detail?

00:33:35:02 - 00:33:53:23
Unknown
That that was number four on my list. That's my ask. I'm not asking for a client list. Yeah. You know, stop treating the public like they're crazy. They're going to treat you like we know this from UFOs, right? Like like they're going to treat you like you're crazy, right? Right. There's so many parallels of that. Yeah, it's exactly what they do.

00:33:54:01 - 00:34:16:23
Unknown
It's like it's just gaslighting and a giant scale. They make. They make you feel like everyone's has mass hysteria. Yeah, this wasn't the story of one single predator. It's the story of a network that was protected by power. Yeah, it was insulated by the law, and it was shielded by silence. So this case is not over. It's just suppressed, that's all.

00:34:17:01 - 00:34:48:01
Unknown
We're used to this. Yeah. Our our job is to remember we're going to speak. We need you to share. Because if this vanishes from the record, it will happen again. Sure. Of course. That's why that's the whole premise of bringing justice. Right. Well, I'm sorry to have to have taken this diversion, and we're going to keep talking about this somehow, in some fashion until it gets resolved, because now I'll get into 14 piece about it.

00:34:48:02 - 00:35:17:09
Unknown
Yeah, because I looked into it from that angle, by the way. I didn't find the evidence of ritual. Like I didn't find evidence of hermetic occult stuff here. No owl masks being worn. No, I did, I did look at it from that angle. I think this is plain old human evil. Yeah. But I think that it created a tear.

00:35:17:11 - 00:35:43:05
Unknown
It created a wound in our society that will fester if we don't clean it up. Yeah. Very true. I mean, it makes you wonder now. It's like we always positioned ourselves to be above like that. The style of the movement, you call it kompromat, right? Where the Soviet style of blackmail. We were always above that, right? We're supposed to be above that.

00:35:43:09 - 00:36:07:08
Unknown
But now I believe that. And now we're. I. I fell for that. Yeah, right. But now. But you know, yeah, it puts the our standards as a nation into question. And now I'm thinking about how much blackmail is really being used when it comes to the, UFO question about disclosure. It's a great question. I could I brought it up.

00:36:07:08 - 00:36:32:18
Unknown
He said all of this same stuff gross said happens in the UFO world, right? And we're talking about murder. We're talking about blackmail. We're talking about threats of violence. All of the same stuff. Yeah, same group of people. Yep. Seems to be or it's coming from the same network. Right. At least. Right. And it's people with influence and power and people who don't.

00:36:32:18 - 00:36:56:10
Unknown
And this is where this is the birth of conspiracy theories. It's those of us on the outside going, how does this all work? And, you know, the danger and lure of conspiracy theories is that they make everything make sense. And in real life it doesn't. Right, right. Good point. And we know this from UFOs. I know that to this is one way I can always smell for UFOs.

00:36:56:10 - 00:37:17:12
Unknown
Is that someone's telling me something that makes perfect sense. Them. Right. There you go. Right. Yeah. And, that sounds the alarm. Wait, that makes perfect sense. That's a good one. Yeah, yeah, well. Good discussion. It's, it's a horrible topic, but I really do see the relevance in discussing it and the importance keep on keeping on, everyone.

00:37:17:12 - 00:38:15:07
Unknown
Thank you for listening. Thank you for listening. Please check out those resources. If you want to make media based on some of that stuff. Hopefully that seeds you. Yeah, definitely. Let's just you know, let's keep it going and keep the message going and, keep collecting data. I give up right on the next time. Yeah. All right. Till next time.