Unraveling Elite Influence: Who Really Runs the World?

Forget the smoke-filled rooms and the Illuminati. The real story of who runs the world is far more complex, measurable, and closer to your wallet than you think.

In this deep-dive episode of Fortean Winds, we cut through the noise of myth and conspiracy to deliver a data-driven analysis of global power. The hard truth is not a shadowy cabal, but a decentralized web of elite influence—a network of an estimated 2,000 to 5,000 individuals across economic, political, and intelligence clusters that shape everything from your daily news feed to global policy.

We trace the lines of systemic leverage wielded by these elites, grounding our investigation in numbers from credible sources like Forbes, OpenSecrets, and the AARO Report. You'll learn:

• Economic Control: How just a few thousand individuals control over $14 trillion in wealth and how investment firms like BlackRock and Vanguard effectively dictate the policies of 80% of S&P 500 firms, driving up your costs for housing, healthcare, and food.
• Information Manipulation: The terrifying reality that six media conglomerates control 90% of the U.S. media, and how algorithms on platforms like Google and X curate roughly 60% of what you see online, creating echo chambers and suppressing certain worldviews.
• Political Lobbying & Policy: How billions in political donations and lobbying ensure that an estimated 80% of U.S. policies align with elite interests, not public opinion, limiting your economic and political mobility.
• The Fortean Twist: UAP Secrecy: We integrate the strange reality of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAPs), examining official government documents (like the AARO Report) and the possibility that a tiny subgroup (50–200 people) is controlling potentially transformative, non-human technology. Is this secrecy delaying free energy and other innovations?

This is a vital listen for anyone who has ever asked, "Who runs the world?" We provide a clear, evidence-based answer that moves beyond vague talk of a "grand conspiracy" and points directly to the measurable systemic leverage that is shaping your future.

Tune in to Fortean Winds as we synthesize the evidence, revealing the central nodes of power, why they compete, and what the high stakes of this fragmented, elite-driven system mean for you.

You can find the data and citations in our companion article on Fortean Winds:

https://forteanwinds.com/2025/08/27/unraveling-elite-influence-who-really-runs-the-world/

Transcript

00;00;00;00 - 00;00;26;14
Unknown
Welcome to the Fortean Winds podcast, where we talk about UFOs and all the related high strangeness. I go by bones and with us, as always, is Ram X. Hey, everybody. Hey, Ram. So today, we're not going to be chasing, little green men. We're going to start with something more grounded, more systemic, and, maybe more unsettling.

00;00;26;16 - 00;00;56;03
Unknown
And that's who's really pulling the strings. That's right. So, you know, we, we could talk about, you know, billionaires and black budgets and, that really link to media monopolies and, even missing UAP data. Yeah. We recently mapped out how power clusters and not a cabal. Not like, smoky room 12 Illuminati overlords. Right. But it's really it's a decentralized network and decentralized network.

00;00;56;04 - 00;01;23;13
Unknown
What we're referring to is elites in the public. And I think what we mean by elites, maybe we start there is financial elites, right? Right. And we're rarely talking about someone who is an elite that is not financially well-off. Sure. That's a a huge component of being an elite. And there's, a lot of billionaires and that just the number keeps growing.

00;01;23;15 - 00;01;44;00
Unknown
Yeah, we've been off the air for a few weeks. You and I have had a tough time scheduling with each other. And so one. Yeah. Life happens. Life happens. And, you know, we have, fortunately, a wonderful and weird audience just like us. You know, one little Fortean winds factoid that I am hesitant to mention because I want to have more guests.

00;01;44;00 - 00;02;10;22
Unknown
And we've had great guests and, I expect we'll have some more. Between all of us check ins, our numbers actually go down when we have guests. I don't know if another podcast is like that, right? But our audience is just like us, and I think that they want information. They want it fast and furious. They're like, tell me everything I need to know and tell it to me in as little time as it takes and I.

00;02;10;26 - 00;02;28;07
Unknown
Right. Yeah. So we're back. And because we were off for a little bit, I was actually holding on to this. It took months to kind of dig this out. And then I it's been on the website for a little while. I was going to sit on it and sort of build up to it, but since we were off for a while, I thought, well, let's come back with the bang.

00;02;28;07 - 00;03;03;02
Unknown
And we did promise to solve who was at the top of all the conspiracies, all of the time, all over the world. So let's just go ahead and knock that out this episode, because we were a little delinquent. Right. And that's, properly titled, who really runs the world, right? So after months of digging, our analysis suggests that around 2000 to 5000 individuals control the world across economic, political, and intelligence clusters, and that wields an outsized influence over global resources and information.

00;03;03;05 - 00;03;33;05
Unknown
Those same individuals get involved in religion, and they get involved in cults, and they get involved in other socially controlling institutions. So these people are shaping your daily life. They're shaping your wallet, your news, your choices. And I think the big question among the conspiracy community and the UFO community, which is kind of overlapping in almost one thing at this point, and that's a good way to bring UAP into this, because I see this as an extension of that same topic.

00;03;33;05 - 00;03;57;03
Unknown
We've been saying, who controls the UAP information? Who is keeping it under control this whole time? Well, it's here, it's in this decentralized network. And then we end up looking into the Epstein crime ring, and we find out that they are also a part of this decentralized, elite financial network. Yep. Naturally, I think that that leads us to this.

00;03;57;03 - 00;04;24;15
Unknown
Like, okay, who is this elite network? What are they all about? And I know that there's a ton of conspiracies here, but they're conspiracy theories. And within them there's probably truth and there's a whole lot of fiction. And that's what we ran into with UFOs. So if we back way out, as we like to do and just look at the data, and then we have to create a methodology, we have to create metrics to measure things.

00;04;24;15 - 00;04;45;21
Unknown
And we've talked about some of this before, like if you were measuring engagement on a website that's something or social media, you go, okay, I'm going to put up three posts and I'm going to see which one gets the most likes or upvotes. That's your metric. Then you put up the three posts and whichever one got the most likes was the one that went.

00;04;45;23 - 00;05;08;14
Unknown
You have to create a standard in order to measure it, and then you have to get data to measure it against the standard. Right? That makes sense. That's how analysis should work. Yeah. So let's break that down with hard data and a nod to the weird. And look at what we know and what we don't know. Let's start with these clusters that allows these elites, which I don't think we like calling them elites.

00;05;08;14 - 00;05;36;09
Unknown
So we're going to call them oligarchs. Yeah. Elite implies that they are smarter than us or better than us somehow. Right? Yeah. They're right. They're just richer than the money. Yeah, that's hard. Yeah, yeah, because we've seen that, some of them can fail up pretty quickly. So, you know, and we've seen some massive failings in morality that seem to be prevalent in this group, which is interesting.

00;05;36;09 - 00;06;03;14
Unknown
And that's a part of these conspiracy theories. But let's stay, grounded and let's stay at a high altitude for now. And then we'll dive into some of the more smoky details later. Right. So these clusters of economic, political, and intelligence influence allow them to influence a great deal of things, right? Our media, our economy, our algorithms, the Who controls the algorithm.

00;06;03;14 - 00;06;25;15
Unknown
And this is a very important topic right now with TikTok being bought, Larry Ellison being part of that and even right, Netanyahu saying, oh, good, now we control TikTok like they're all fighting over control over the algorithm, which means that they think the algorithm controls you. Right? There's some truth to that, but there's only as much truth as you.

00;06;25;15 - 00;06;57;09
Unknown
And I allow that to. Okay. So as mentioned, these people are really financial elites and the world's resources, money, jobs, goods, they're concentrated in a few hands. The top 1% own about 32% of global wealth. That's crazy. That's globally. Yeah. According to stats we pulled from 2024, that's around $135 trillion, controlled by 1% of the world's population. Right.

00;06;57;15 - 00;07;28;00
Unknown
It's a slight, power imbalance, you can call it. Yeah. Investment firms like Blackrock and Vanguard and those type of dollars give them a outsized control of voting when it comes to companies that are public and have to vote. So firms like Blackrock and Vanguard, who are also heavily involved in military technologies, manage a combined $20 trillion in vote shares in about 80% of S&P firms.

00;07;28;02 - 00;07;58;02
Unknown
So this allows them to basically dictate corporate policy. And if you work for a corporation that allows them to dictate what your life is like. True. And this power extends into things like consumer goods, where four companies are basically controlling 60% of US food production, and the Amazon is about 40% of all e-commerce. Jeff Bezos gets a penny for every thing 40% of people spend online, right?

00;07;58;02 - 00;08;29;25
Unknown
Right. And then central banks and elite link private banks also play a major role. So the Federal Reserve has 7 trillion in easing, which boosted billionaire wealth by an estimated 5 trillion between 2020 and 2025. So Covid was the world's largest wealth transfer ever from traditional sources to digital sources. So what we've seen since, right, is the rise of the technocracy.

00;08;29;28 - 00;08;58;16
Unknown
And people like Peter Thiel, who's become a popular subject in our world. Right. And Elon Musk, they all grew out of this PayPal mafia and this technocracy, which is interesting because as we're going to see this is, shakeup at their level and this decentralized network is suddenly you have a bunch of new players and new new players, by the way, that are building, their own private bunkers.

00;08;58;19 - 00;09;32;00
Unknown
That seems to be a trend amongst them. They are really desperate. The apocalypse. Yeah. And this has been going on for a while. If you're talking about teal. So I remember reading articles about him from like ten years ago. This guy has been obsessed with the world and and he was bringing in these security experts to consult with because he was worried, like, what happens when the private army that I've hired to protect me after the apocalypse realizes that they don't need my money and they can turn on me.

00;09;32;02 - 00;09;53;26
Unknown
So he. Right, he brought in a second set of experts to go. How do I deal with my revolting army and the apocalypse? Hey, what kind of dude? Do you have any other hobbies? Yeah, it's amazing that an individual with so many resources can have such a narrow scope of the world. You know what I mean? It's just it's bizarre.

00;09;53;29 - 00;10;17;10
Unknown
It's like they get a certain amount of money, and then all they can worry about is someone coming and taking it away. It's like it's suddenly it's fear. It's fear of losing all of your billions and losing all of your power. It's ridiculous. Right? Yeah. There's a hole in these people that can never be felt right, right through control of our economy.

00;10;17;13 - 00;10;49;02
Unknown
These people control high costs of housing, health care and food. And we're seeing that right in front of our face right now as prices are climbing like crazy in the grocery store. And we have people getting on TV who are part of that financial elite network, and they're telling you the prices are down, right. So this is the best example I have ever seen of this type of what Richard theme, we also wanted to introduce talking about today.

00;10;49;04 - 00;11;16;19
Unknown
And he was a disinformation expert and cyber culture expert. And he had this great concept that he introduced called Real Birds in Digital Cages. And I would like to say real birds in invisible cages where we create these cages around us. And if you go back to like our hacking UFO episode, that's a good way for us to sort of frame it up there to where you're building this cage of beliefs around you, and they're manipulating the beliefs.

00;11;16;19 - 00;11;49;18
Unknown
And we've talked about how these non-human intelligence are doing that. But then there are people who are in control of your media who are doing that. They're very human people who are doing that. You know, they're controlling what you see and they're controlling what you think you can or cannot do. There's some facts that I think become relevant when you start talking about this, like there's about a million people on active duty in the US military, and there's like 1.2, I think, and National Guard and reserves.

00;11;49;20 - 00;12;16;21
Unknown
So you're talking about two, 2.5 million, right? There's 365 million people in the United States, and there's 500 million guns in terms of firepower. There is no more powerful army than the United States people. Right? So the control that they exercise in order to have a small army to control that many people with guns is all through contract.

00;12;16;23 - 00;12;45;17
Unknown
There's some sort of social contract being made right in the US. It's the Constitution. We say, okay, well, you hold the Constitution and we won't do anything. Right? Right. There's a number of other social contracts that are being made to religion being a big one. And the way that elites and financial elites especially have controlled and manipulated religion in order to keep people in poverty and keep them sedated.

00;12;45;19 - 00;13;08;03
Unknown
Marx famously referred to religion as the opiate, the masses. Right? And because we're Fortean winds, I don't even think we need to have to talk about that in isolation. Like we can talk about how the I get involved in that and then how these financial elites get involved, and then we're sort of edging up on whatever the intersection is between those two sources of power.

00;13;08;06 - 00;13;38;21
Unknown
Yeah. And that would be an interesting angle for season four. So manipulating your beliefs requires manipulating information. And we can definitely see it's great timing. But I was looking at, Pew Research charts of people's confidence in media right now, people's confidence in mainstream media telling them the truth. And it has plummeted. It has plummeted. In the last year, it was already on its way down.

00;13;38;24 - 00;14;03;20
Unknown
It was a downhill decline, you know, on the chart. But then it went into a freefall. So now, no matter which party you're with, no matter whether you're a Democrat, Republican, independent, you are more likely to not believe the mainstream media than believe. And that's the first time, I think, ever, that it's been this. Yeah, I this is just recently.

00;14;03;25 - 00;14;31;29
Unknown
I know it felt like that for a long time, but the numbers just recently went below 50% on people who believe in mainstream media. And the mainstream media did that to themselves. Oh, and by the way, Joe Rogan is mainstream media. I mean, you're talking about 15 million people sometimes watching his show. Yeah, he has a huge audience that's way bigger than ABC news, which is the biggest news show still like is it?

00;14;31;29 - 00;14;56;21
Unknown
Yeah. Okay. He's like ten times what they're getting. So Joe Rogan is the mainstream. He did platform for a bunch of political people. He did get involved in politics. And now he's trying to be like, hey, I'm just the cool like indie dude. Like, dude, it's been a long time since you've been. Now come on now. Yeah, he's he's a Peter Thiel apologist.

00;14;56;22 - 00;15;29;20
Unknown
He's like, oh no, come on, Peter Thiel school like Peter Thiel is Palantir. He's, you know, Joe Rogan, who's supposed to be worried about surveillance and all this stuff like, wait, wait. Yeah. You know, totally cool. Yeah, it's the NSA, it's the Patriot Act. And and freaking steroids or what? We're is what we're walking into. Yeah. They've removed all the regulations on data control, which allows them to pair your health data with what you're looking at online and then start prescribing you.

00;15;29;22 - 00;15;55;17
Unknown
They're trying to pass laws to be able to identify you before you do something wrong and be able to provide remedy for that, which could involve just, I don't know, shoving people in the camps for no reason. I mean, this used to be like the the far right and far left's worst nightmare. And now you have people suddenly jumping on board like it's a good idea.

00;15;55;19 - 00;16;17;23
Unknown
Yeah. And those are the real birds and digital cages. They started out going, hey, it's a bad idea to, you know, hand all of my information over the government and give them surveillance over to me. 24 seven but somehow, through the algorithms, etc., you got people to agree to that you got people to promote it for you. Assets, agents.

00;16;17;23 - 00;16;54;28
Unknown
Right. We go back to that a lot. You know, they use that information that work to turn you into an asset.

00;16;55;01 - 00;16;59;24
Unknown
To do.

00;16;59;26 - 00;17;30;04
Unknown
Because information shapes what you believe both for and. But in the US, six conglomerates control 90% of the media and an estimated 70% of news consumers. According to our analysis, the algorithms on Google and X alone are driving about 60% of what you see. Yeah. Wow. That's the algorithm. So if you don't know the information exists, that contradicts something that you read there, then that becomes your true.

00;17;30;06 - 00;17;52;21
Unknown
Yeah. Yeah, that's kind of creepy. And so when the algorithms get involved in censoring people, speaking of free speech, which is a big topic today and why it's so important, but when the algorithms get involved in censoring people, people start censoring themselves. People start complying in advance and they know this that them and where right where identifying them.

00;17;52;21 - 00;18;15;19
Unknown
The 25,000, that's not even that many. It's a pretty small group that we brought them down to. We can even break them down a little further as we go. I think this will be the first time we talked about this, and we'll probably have another follow up episode after this, or we'll talk about specifically about the US, whether it's been an oligarchy since its inception or whether it's gone back and forth.

00;18;15;21 - 00;18;36;22
Unknown
But your news feed creates echo chambers and it suppresses certain views and it influences your vote. What you buy and what you think about the world. Because they control the algorithm, they have an outsized control on your vote, but then they control the people you vote for. And how do they do that? Right? Right. How do they do that?

00;18;36;26 - 00;19;02;25
Unknown
Yep. Well, through, donors and lobbying, of course. Yeah. And, of course, you know, the revolving door that's attached to the lobbying as well. Yeah. I mean, there's a reason why a lot of those politicians, they love lobbyists because they, someday, when their political, political career ends, they would like to be a lobbyist, you know, making a ton of money doing nothing.

00;19;02;28 - 00;19;38;12
Unknown
Taking people out to dinner. Totally. That's basically their golden parachute, right? The top 100 US donors gave more than $2 billion in 2020 toward the elections. Yeah, lobbying hit $4.2 billion in 2024. Industries like tech and pharma blocked 70% of the antitrust reforms that were on them. So this is how you lose control of your democratic capitalist country by losing control of your reforms, by becoming controlled by a few different monopolies.

00;19;38;14 - 00;20;08;29
Unknown
Yeah. And then you're no longer a democracy. And the extent to which we are a democracy changes, as we'll see in the next episode. So think tanks like the Council on Foreign Relations and the World Economic Forum create agendas, and the World Economic Forum's agenda controls about 40% of G20 regulations. We cite an article from Princeton University that found that roughly 80% of the US policy is aligned with these financial interests.

00;20;09;01 - 00;20;39;17
Unknown
80%? Yeah. I guess it's not surprising. And that's from Princeton, right? We're not pulling that from Alex Jones. Right. So these are elite friendly laws. They raise your costs and they limit your representation. Things like the World Economic Forum's digital IDs affect your privacy and access. Which brings us to our old pals and intelligence. Yeah. Right. Hi, friends.

00;20;39;19 - 00;21;11;25
Unknown
If you're listening. Hello. Oh, I think they're listening. So, yeah, they got, you know, they got the secret budgets, right? Yeah. Strategic information is power. The NSA's prism program collects 1 billion records daily. Holy smokes. There's 365 million people in America. As I like to point out, that's three records per American every day, right? Black budgets are dropping 50 billion annually.

00;21;11;28 - 00;21;40;27
Unknown
Black budgets no oversight. Right. The money that these financial elites don't control through corporate influence, they're then able to control through lobbying influence, because they now control our tax dollars, which go to their companies that create military stuff, which go to their intelligence people, which tell you what to do with the military stuff. So, right, right. It ends up being a network of control.

00;21;41;00 - 00;22;13;22
Unknown
So as, as stated in the article in our, on our website, roughly 650 to 1300 elites control 14 trillion in wealth and then 20 trillion in assets. It's what we call a centralized power structure. I mean, they got control of the wealth, information and public policy, right? I mean, that's oligarchy. That's right. And with that type of concentrated wealth, you can control the decentralized wealth that we have access to.

00;22;13;24 - 00;22;35;19
Unknown
Right? So we all believe we we'd all like to believe that we live in a meritocracy and that your hard work gets you ahead. But we all know that there are other factors at play. We talk about politics. You can talk about having a leg up and talk about nepotism. If you start on third base, it's easy to hit a home run right?

00;22;35;22 - 00;23;00;26
Unknown
But it's a lot harder to go all the way around faces. Yeah, yeah. And you know, and then the dark side of it all is, you know, I mentioned earlier about failing up. So you, you start to get this culture. It just is my opinion. But you start to have this culture of failing up and the past 30, 20 to 30 years, the amount of billionaires that we have generated is, is insane.

00;23;00;28 - 00;23;26;22
Unknown
And my biggest fear is that it's it's going to be harder to get away from this because there's now kind of a social club of billionaires out there. And I believe Thiel and Epstein, they were a huge part of that, especially after, he did nothing but caught billionaires. That was his thing. It's the Epstein network that really exposes this.

00;23;26;25 - 00;24;01;08
Unknown
It exposes this group that exposes this cabal. It exposes it exposes this network of people who are living their lives according to a different set of laws and rules than the rest of us. Right. And they're installing people all the time in these positions of control, like Cash Patel, Dan Bongino. That's a very interesting case, right? Because Kash Patel and Dan Bongino both made millions and both made their names off of the Epstein case.

00;24;01;14 - 00;24;26;04
Unknown
Right. So when the powerful and wealthy co-opt them, they say, look, we're taking your champions and we're turning them against you. We're getting them on our side. We can we can do anything we want. It's more of this weird dominance and control game that we started exposing in the Epstein web, and we were like, it's not a cult.

00;24;26;05 - 00;24;53;23
Unknown
It's something much darker in some ways. Yeah. And it's it's very human. And it's these people who really want to dominate and control on a level that would never occur to most of us. Right? Yeah. I mean, it's it's sad because you think about the, you know, our, our government is based on decentralized power, right? That's why we have the co-equal branches of government.

00;24;53;25 - 00;25;20;25
Unknown
That's why we're not supposed to have just a few individuals commanding our economy in commanding where our money goes. You know, it's like it's sad. And the current administration and what's happening also exposes this network because the checks and balances aren't working. Right. And so we can say that some of them were illusions all along. Yeah. It's just, you know, it's just like I said, it's different now.

00;25;20;29 - 00;25;47;19
Unknown
You know, used to when we had the Rockefellers of the time, they, they knew that they, they were obtaining extreme wealth. And, and then attached to that was kind of a civic duty, right to the public where they had to give back. And there was an understanding of that. And the Rockefellers, what they do, they they built a bunch of civic centers in their, you know, their buildings that, that stand today that are used every day that were built by them.

00;25;47;26 - 00;26;18;08
Unknown
But that doesn't exist anymore. Yeah. There was a belief by some billionaires and there still is. There's some billionaires who are pursuing their own political or ethical moral code, right, with their money, and they get a lot of pushback from whoever opposes that ethical or moral code. Right. You got right billionaires on the right. You got billionaires on the left, and then they start buying politicians and they're like, it's my version of what the world should be.

00;26;18;15 - 00;26;40;26
Unknown
No, it's my version of what the world should be. But the story we're all fed is that it's our version of what the world should be in a democracy and a republic and a capitalist society. And they need us to believe that in order to keep doing what we're doing. Yeah, but we have to be smarter than that, and we have to go.

00;26;41;03 - 00;27;08;08
Unknown
We see what you're doing and we're going to get around it. When the court allowed Citizens United to pass, which basically allows corporations to give unlimited amounts of money to political candidates. Yeah, that was essentially legalizing bribery. And that's not hyperbole, because in other countries, that exact donation is considered a bribe. You're not allowed to take it. It's against the law.

00;27;08;10 - 00;27;34;09
Unknown
Right. But when they said gloves off, you can give as much as you want. It allowed corporations to basically go in and buy politicians, and they have to raise something like $40,000 a day just to hold on to their seat in Congress. So the idea that they're pursuing our needs over whatever feeds their donation funds, right, doesn't really match with reality.

00;27;34;11 - 00;28;04;07
Unknown
And that's the other name that I would like to use for these people, instead of calling them the elites or something that sounds more conspiratorial, how about we call them what they call them on mainstream media? The donor class? Yeah, right. Basically what it is, the donor class who buys politicians, and they all use this colloquialism and this little whitewashing phrase of donor class, but that's exactly what they're doing.

00;28;04;10 - 00;28;26;06
Unknown
At one point, someone talk to me about running for a local office, and they said, one of the things you have to do is go meet with this person who is a kingmaker, and every party has their kingmakers, and you have to go meet with this is literally what they call them. And they they say this person has to meet you.

00;28;26;06 - 00;28;53;24
Unknown
They have to like you and say, okay, yeah, I'll back this candidate. So it's a top donor. Yeah, it was a local. They have donors at every level. And I said, of course I'm not going to do that. But I was shocked to find out that that's how it worked. Yeah. So if they're installing your politicians and they own the wealth, they own the corporate voting, you see how your choices become limited.

00;28;54;00 - 00;29;24;08
Unknown
And then we end up fighting over whatever it is that they see as being most useful. So the issue of abortion, for example, was not big in American politics until the 1970s. And there is a very well documented instance of a right wing campaign going in and testing into abortion. They literally tested several different subjects and said, which one's going to really hit home with our voters?

00;29;24;14 - 00;29;52;19
Unknown
And they found out abortion worked. And so then abortion became a huge issue in the US and still is today. Right. I'm not telling you how to feel about it. What I'm telling you is that it wasn't an issue until this donor class decided to make it an issue, right? Right. So, having discussed all this, we can't leave out the, Fortean angle, and that's the, you know, the UAP secrecy that kind of fits into this pattern, right?

00;29;52;21 - 00;30;20;11
Unknown
Right. That's the first instance of us is Fortean winds together. Encountering this network was UAP. And we were like, how is this being kept? How could this be controlled? So I think that this further answers that question, and then it further answers, who has access to the information? 25,000 names worldwide. Not a big group of people. I mean, that is a really small group.

00;30;20;14 - 00;30;51;18
Unknown
Yeah, yeah. And the fact that we know UAP exist and found tons of evidence that UAP exist and have known about it for some time, was further proof that this network is hiding big things from public. Well, I mean, there's an obvious reason why, it's probably fits in the same pattern is because, they probably see some type of power in having the knowledge of UAP.

00;30;51;18 - 00;31;26;13
Unknown
Yeah, right. There's power in both the technology of UAP that they are all angling for control over. And then there's power behind the beliefs behind UAP that they're angling for control over. And like we pointed out, if the UAP topic is anything like what we said, Jonquil said Jacqueline said it does change the field as far as religion and ontological views go, right, and that status quo is what keeps them in power.

00;31;26;13 - 00;32;04;15
Unknown
They are very much in favor of keeping the status quo, right? Good point. Yep. And then we have the Epstein files, which have truly exposed how this network operates with impunity. Yeah, they're desperately trying to keep the status quo with that one. And it's just and it also exposes their financial network. Right? Right. And I didn't know whether our Fortean winds UFO would follow us over here to Corruption land, but it does seem to have done so because we've been off for a little while, you know, with our scheduling challenge.

00;32;04;18 - 00;32;39;01
Unknown
But we have not been out of the mix because we became relevant to the Epstein timeline, didn't we? Yeah, for sure. During the off season, because of our Epstein Temple episode in which we discussed the breakup of Jeffrey Epstein and Trump, in which we highlighted the fact that Trump very likely turned over evidence against Epstein to the fed back in 2008, and that Epstein likely turned over evidence against either Trump or many other individuals at the time.

00;32;39;03 - 00;33;08;12
Unknown
And then prior to the news cycle being blown up with everything that happened, Mike Johnson was in the media saying Trump was an informant. That's right. And in that moment, Fortean winds became relevant because they said, well, wait, Fortean wins outlined this scenario a month before this, in which Trump really may have been an informant, because the first reaction was, oh, Mike Johnson's just lying, right?

00;33;08;15 - 00;33;31;10
Unknown
But as things progressed, it seemed like Trump actually may have informed on Jeffrey Epstein, which is very interesting. And that was all starting to bubble up to the top of the news before things changed. Right. So the fact that we were able to outline that scenario a month before any of that happened meant that the scenario likely existed.

00;33;31;12 - 00;33;55;13
Unknown
And that's why it's worth us keeping track and continuing to bubble up this information as we get it. So we got an established methodology, and I think we really hit on something big. You know, I want to focus on, myself and just the differences between centralized and decentralized power. I think that's important. But now that we have we have a methodology.

00;33;55;13 - 00;34;21;23
Unknown
I think we should, maybe next episode, just break it down. The oligarchy in the U.S, how it functions. That's a great idea since we're in the US and that's where we have the best data from. I think it's a great example of a democracy that is in transition and could go one way or the other, so we'll break it down era by era, using the same standard of evidence and the same data.

00;34;21;25 - 00;34;43;14
Unknown
And then we'll see which areas conform to oligarchies and which ones don't, and how maybe we can avoid it. Yeah. Sounds good. Well, it's good talking with you. Well, we'll get on track and, episode, you know, releasing an episode every week again and, just thanks for listening, everyone. Yeah, thanks for listening, y'all. Happy to connect with you, Barnes.

00;34;43;14 - 00;35;28;22
Unknown
And I'm looking forward to the next one. Yep. Same here. Take it easy. Take care. You.