The Missing Profile: UFOs, Fairies, and Vanishing People

What if the modern UFO abduction phenomenon is only the latest version of something much older?

In this episode of Fortean Winds, RamX and Bones trace a startling pattern across centuries of documented encounters involving missing time, unexplained disappearances, and the sudden removal of people from ordinary reality.

The journey begins in 1759 rural Sweden, with the officially recorded case of Jacob Jacobsen — a young farm laborer who vanished for four days after walking down a road that seemingly appeared out of nowhere. When he returned, he remembered only minutes.

From there, the pattern repeats.

Witnesses describe:

•  sudden unnatural silence in forests 
•  invisible thresholds 
•  missing time 
•  vanished companions 
•  physical displacement 
•  fragmented memory 
•  encounters shaped by the cultural language of the era 

Fairies in the 1700s.
 Aliens in the 1900s.
 The same profile in both.

The episode connects historical records, modern abduction cases, the Monica Reza disappearance, and witness testimony spanning more than 250 years to ask a difficult question:

Are we dealing with different stories… or the same phenomenon wearing different masks?

This is not an argument for one interpretation.
 It is an argument for a pattern.

And the consistency may be the evidence.

Source package and companion article at Fortean Winds.

https://forteanwinds.com/2026/05/11/the-profile-near-missing/

Transcript

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September 16th, 1759. Rural Sweden. A farmer sends his 22 year old son, Jacob Jacobsen, across a nearby lake on a simple errand. Jacob crosses the lake, completes the errand, returns the boat to shore, and then he sees something a long, wide road at the place he just left, a road that wasn't there when he departed. He gets out of the boat and walks down it.

00;00;27;24 - 00;00;51;03
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He reaches a large red mansion. The next thing he knows, he seated on a bench inside a chamber. At the far end of a table, sits a short, chubby man with a red cap. Around him, crowds of small people moving in every direction. A beautiful young woman approaches Jacob and offers him food and drink. He declines. The small people ask if he'd like to stay.

00;00;51;05 - 00;01;16;21
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Frightened. Jacob praised to be set back to his parents. The man at the table shouts, throw him out! He has such an ugly mouth. And in the next instant, Jacob is standing back on the shore of the lake. The road is gone. The mansion is gone. He walks home. His parents are overjoyed to see him. The whole community has been looking for him for four days.

00;01;16;23 - 00;01;43;18
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Jacob had no memory of four days. He remembered minutes. He was not hungry. Not thirsty. Showed no physical where he had simply been. Somewhere briefly. And then he'd been returned. The Reverend Vigilius of the parish of personally heard Jacob's testimony in the presence of his parents. He found the young man to be of sound character, trusted by everyone in the community.

00;01;43;20 - 00;02;08;09
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He recorded the account in the official parish records, where it remains to this day. 1759. Before Roswell. Before flying saucers. Before the Berkshires. Before the Angeles National Forest. The profile was already here tonight. We're going to trace it forward.

00;02;08;12 - 00;02;33;03
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Welcome back to Fortean Winds, where we discuss high strangeness and the war for perception. I go by Bones and with us, as always, is RamX. Hey. Hey, everybody. Hey, Ram. I want to start where you just left us. 1759 Sweden Parish Records. Because I think what this case does is something none of the cases we've discussed in this series can do by themselves.

00;02;33;05 - 00;03;02;11
Unknown
Right? And that's the point. Look, every time we discuss a case from the modern era, the first objection is cultural contamination. People have seen Close Encounters Independence Day in The X-Files. People grew up in UFO culture. So when a witness in 1975 described something that looks like an alien abduction, you can always argue that they've absorbed that framework and their pattern matching against what they already know, consciously or not.

00;03;02;13 - 00;03;43;20
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Right in shadow. 214 Jared for pointing out that in modern cases like Travis Walton's, there are legitimate points of concern and skepticism. Some said Walton and his brother were echoing stories from their UFO obsessed father, and one witness issued a partial retraction, which was also retracted. So these cases go on and on and on. Not only could we include the abduction material in our argument, we could also include encounter cases in our argument, because there would be precedent that shows that something wasn't there and then something was there, so we could pull any one of those cases.

00;03;43;20 - 00;04;09;16
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Meaning? Who knows? Some of the cases that we talk about might fall apart over time, but there are so many in the record. Right. At some point. Right. You have to explain the weight of the evidence too. So we're just going to plow through and see if we can find patterns. But much like UFOs, where we know like the new fork data, which we use all the time, and we know that half of it is muck, right?

00;04;09;17 - 00;04;32;21
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We know that half of those are misidentifications, but we also know that it's directionally correct. So we keep that in mind. We don't use it to determine scale, but we can use it to determine direction. Same thing here. Like there's a lot of cases. We're going to bring up a few more tonight. But we're just trying to express that there's a pattern here and how it might connect to the rest case.

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Jacob Jacobson helps us through some of the muck. He's a 22 year old Swedish farm laborer in 1759. He has no UFO mythology to draw on. He has no science fiction. What he has is the framework available to him, which is very folk, little people, a red mansion. And he describes his experience in those terms, not alien terms, not extraterrestrial terms.

00;04;56;17 - 00;05;19;25
Unknown
Right. And when you strip away the cultural vocabulary and look at the bare physical structure of what happened, you have someone who went missing in a familiar location while on a routine task. You have a community that searched for him and couldn't find him for four days, and they were experienced as minutes by the observer, and he was returned to exactly where he started.

00;05;19;26 - 00;05;48;13
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No hunger, no thirst, no memory of the intervening time. Right? He was physically unharmed by the record. So that profile was documented in 1759. And that is the profile that we were discussing in the last episode on the Reza case. Right. And that's an official record, too. Yeah. And the missing persons statistics are also official. So it's crazy when we get censored for just talking about that.

00;05;48;16 - 00;06;09;12
Unknown
And I just want to bring this up really quick because we've been discussing how we've been suppressed. And I think that this last episode was the best example I could ever give you. So there was a clip from that episode of me just talking about the missing person statistics and telling people how they were actually much lower than what people would think.

00;06;09;14 - 00;06;32;19
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And you wouldn't think that would violate any sort of terms of service on TikTok or YouTube. Right. So that clip started to take off on YouTube. You know, it had over a 90% view and a 10% click rate. So by YouTube's algorithm standards, it should have been promoting the hell out of that video. But it shut it down and we never promote videos.

00;06;32;19 - 00;06;52;04
Unknown
And I was like, well, this one was doing so well, I'm willing to put 20 bucks behind it and then they wouldn't even let me promote it. Oh, really? And all it was, was me talking about the the statistics, the actual statistics. There was no mention of anything else in there. Oh, weird. I looked at the terms of service.

00;06;52;05 - 00;07;23;24
Unknown
It didn't violate any terms of service. TikTok shut it down immediately. We have like, the only other time that happened was with the Jeffrey Epstein stuff, like. Oh, right. All we were doing was talking about, like, stuff they would talk about and should be talking about in school, right from official sources. Right. And I just bring that all up, and I continue to mention it, because I want people to know that there is a volume of information out there that is being suppressed.

00;07;23;24 - 00;07;47;25
Unknown
And we should all ask why for sure. But in the case of Jacob Jacobson, we are talking about an official record, and it was written by a named clergyman who had heard the testimony personally in the presence of the family. That's not a folktale passed down orally. That's a primary source document and specifically notes he didn't doubt the reality of Jacob's experience.

00;07;47;25 - 00;08;18;05
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He found him credible. He committed it to paper because he thought it mattered. So the argument in this discussion really isn't, you know, talking about if fairies are real or not, right? Right. The argument is really more about whether the profile is real or not. And we can document the profile all the way back to 1759. Yeah. If we remove the cultural vocabulary, which as for tens, we're not stacking the deck here.

00;08;18;07 - 00;08;41;19
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We've been saying this since the start. You have to remove the cultural vocabulary. Right. There is something very real here. And it's a repeated pattern. And it's just like I was saying at the beginning, when we try to explain the weight of the evidence, when you try to explain it all away, you have to come up with a good explanation as to why people keep saying and hearing and seeing the same things, right?

00;08;41;20 - 00;09;10;14
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And many a trash ass psychologist has gotten through the dissertation process by just trying to fluff that away and telling the institution what it wants to hear and showing that they're going to play ball and then they get passed. Right. And that that is how academia tends to replicate itself. Right? Right. Good point. Fairies and little people. That's the vocabulary of rural Sweden in 1759.

00;09;10;21 - 00;09;39;19
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In 1975, 1969, the vocabulary is very much e.t. You know, that's in the heart of E.T. Sci-Fi, right? Yeah. So in 1969, witness is going to call it an alien being. And that's the vocabulary of modern America, which seems to be changing a little bit. And I think, you know, people like us in the even Congress right now talking about interdimensional beings, which is introducing something new into the conversation.

00;09;39;19 - 00;10;03;07
Unknown
And I don't want to get into what interdimensional is and everything that is actually in the previous episodes, but it they are introducing something that is closer to the truth. Right. So what we're doing, we're just building forward from what is it, 1759 you know, same profile, just different century, different countries, different people with no knowledge of each other.

00;10;03;08 - 00;10;29;14
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The goal tonight is not to prove what this is. The goal is to show the profile is consistent and documented across time. Because once you can do that, once you can show that this has been happening in the same way for at least 266 years. Then when someone vanishes in the Angeles National Forest in 2025, matching that exact same profile, the question isn't whether this kind of thing happens.

00;10;29;17 - 00;10;56;11
Unknown
The question is whether it happened to her, right? Right. So where do we start? We start with the precursor. Because before the profile completes, before someone disappears, there's something that happens. First, the people who got closest to it and came back described the same initial state. And it's been named. It's called the Silence. Can you put in some sort of sound effect on the silence part?

00;10;56;15 - 00;11;23;10
Unknown
Yeah, I'd like to call it the silencing. Maybe it's more dramatic, the silencing. Yeah. It's appropriate. Hunters, hikers, park rangers, people working in wilderness areas across North America. If reported this for decades. You're in the woods and the sound stops. Not the way they stop when a predator is nearby. Animals going quiet as a warning. This is different.

00;11;23;17 - 00;11;57;27
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This is total silence. The wind through the trees is gone nearby. Running water gone. Every ambient sound gone. Witnesses describe the atmosphere is becoming thick and heavy. As if they've been wrapped in something. One person described it as feeling like they'd been transported from the natural, physical world into an imposter version of it. I've heard that a bunch of times, a film set that couldn't quite replicate the real thing, and simultaneously, the overwhelming sense of being watched over, over.

00;11;57;28 - 00;12;21;18
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Over UFO cases. Bigfoot cases. Cryptid cave, same thing. This is reported independently across decades, across geography by people who don't know each other. It is the most consistent reported precursor to the cases we're going to discuss tonight. In May of 1992, a park ranger working in the Great Smoky Mountains. We'll call him John. He hasn't been named publicly.

00;12;21;18 - 00;12;43;24
Unknown
And this is a single witness. Unverified account. Okay. But it illustrates the point we're trying to make, and we can find it in many other accounts. He was on a regular patrol when he stopped for water and realized that silence had descended on him. He moved to a tree, sat with his back against it. He tried to stay calm, and after several minutes he decided to leave.

00;12;43;25 - 00;13;06;17
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He stood up and took a step forward and looked down. The front portion of his foot had vanished. Everything from the crease of his toe cap forward was gone. He moved his foot further and more of it disappeared. He pulled it back and it reappeared whole. He reached out with his right hand and he watched it vanish, and right past the same boundary he pulled back and it returned.

00;13;06;19 - 00;13;27;13
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A tingling sensation began in both limbs and he backed away. He sat back against the tree and waited. 5 to 10 minutes later the sounds returned, and then he walked out, and he said he knew that in the core of his being that he had just narrowly avoided being another missing person in the Smoky Mountains in that moment.

00;13;27;14 - 00;14;02;11
Unknown
Right. So he's it was kind of a wake up call to him or just kind of realizing he saw what others have seen and, and weren't able to come back and report on it. Yeah, I have heard this second hand from someone I know, like, you know, that they were walking in a nature preserve in Illinois, and they came upon a spot that they had walked around many, many times, and the whole spot was missing.

00;14;02;13 - 00;14;25;02
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Like it was just missing. There was nothing there. It was just empty blackness. And there was two people there. They both witnessed it. They didn't report it or anything. They had just told their friends. And these were not people that were into paranormal or UFOs or anything like that. These were just hikers that it had encountered something extremely strange.

00;14;25;04 - 00;14;49;19
Unknown
Yeah. So I mean, what you're describing in this story is basically like an invisible threshold. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. And this thing, he found it physically. He didn't just feel strange and backed away. He put his limbs through it and watched what happened. Like, that's not a story about fear. It's a story about a man who experimented on the edge of something he didn't quite understand.

00;14;49;22 - 00;15;08;12
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And he had the good sense to walk away. And he's still with us. Right, right. And you would think if he was trying to make something up for clicks or likes, it would be a lot more elaborate. Right. Exactly right. There's another case that happened to a woman named Jan Maccabee, and she was actually known in the UFO community.

00;15;08;12 - 00;15;30;26
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And her husband, Bruce Maccabee. You can still see him on a lot of UFO shows. He was a optical scientist and engineer. He had government connections, and he had some interesting things to say about the phenomenon. So in late September of 2010, Jan was up in a tree near her home in Ohio, and she was bow hunting, and she was about 15, 20ft off the ground.

00;15;30;26 - 00;15;57;04
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And she was texting Bruce during the period when the silence descended. And she said she was mid-way through a message when she noticed the forest had gone completely quiet and she texted her husband about it. And then on a tree about 20ft away from her, she saw something. It was a haze, like the shimmer of heat rising off summer asphalt, which we've described before, but clinging to the side of a tree about ten feet above her.

00;15;57;05 - 00;16;16;24
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So then she closes and rubs her eyes and it was still there. Then, without a sound, it begins to descend, moved in a controlled, consistent manner toward the forest floor, and she kept perfectly still, and she raised her phone and took a photograph of it just before it reached the ground. And the moment it did, it vanished, she said.

00;16;16;24 - 00;16;38;28
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Every sound in the forest returned at once. So that photograph was analyzed by some specialists, including her husband. And what it appears to show is a reflective distortion. It's not a defined shape, but something that is bending and diverting light around. It seems to create some sort of a prism effect. It doesn't look like a lens artifact either, or a developing error.

00;16;39;00 - 00;17;05;08
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It's a it's a real object in that image that appears to have no conventional explanation. And then later the same evening, and then later the same evening, she learns that a band rehearsal in a nearby high school had been interrupted in less than an hour after her own experience by a UAP, a brightly lit object hovering overhead that changed color and departed at speed that was witnessed by a bunch of assembled students.

00;17;05;13 - 00;17;27;22
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So Jan didn't disappear. She didn't go missing, but she was sitting 20ft up in a tree stand when a thing she couldn't identify to send it to the forest floor directly in front of her. And she had the photograph. And the same evening, corroboration of the high school students to back her up. Yeah, I mean, it sounds like she filmed the threshold or whatever is being cloaked there.

00;17;27;24 - 00;18;00;17
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You know, it's what's interesting, what I hear when I think about silence, sudden silence, and outside or in the forest, I think of storms, like like if a tornado system is approaching, it's often said that, you know, the birds go completely silent because they can feel, they can sense the barometric pressure changes. And you know, this this could be the same scenario where there's some kind of strange, isolated, drastic change in the barometric pressure.

00;18;00;19 - 00;18;28;21
Unknown
That's a great point. I think we can actually do a little data research and digging on that, see if it holds up. Yeah, right. And we'd have to figure out whether that's a causal factor or more of a feature. But that's a great point. We'll follow up on that because it sounds like what the Ranger and what my witness was describing was the physical edge of whatever that is, and whatever Maccabee filmed showed up before it.

00;18;28;21 - 00;18;54;14
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So those are two solid examples of what this thing looks like from the outside before the profile completes. And critically, neither of those two disappeared. They just both backed away. And that's why they're still here. The question is what happens to the ones who don't? Right, right. Okay, so let's move to those cases. You know where they didn't back away in time, but but they did come back, right?

00;18;54;15 - 00;19;20;15
Unknown
There are cases where they were actually had the full experience came back to tell tell their experience. Yeah. Let's let's talk about a couple of cases, very different circumstances, but they match it. Profile Donald Trump, September 1964 Cisco Grove, California in the hills between the Tahoe and El Dorado National Forest shrubs 28 years old. He's an experienced bow hunter.

00;19;20;20 - 00;19;40;22
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He's out with a group of friends when he loses sight of them, and he finds himself alone in the woods. As evening falls, he climbs a tree for safety and ties himself to the trunk with his belt. See out the night, and then he sees a light moving through the sky, approaching, zigzagging, descending. Sound familiar? Right? He thinks it's a search.

00;19;40;22 - 00;20;06;10
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Helicopter lights a flare, he calls out. The light gravitates towards him and lands roughly 50 yards away. When it does, he can see it's not a helicopter. It's completely silent. It's large. He estimated it was the size of 14 story building, and alongside it was a smaller craft that materialized and approaches his tree. Three figures emerged from the smaller craft, two humanoid and silver reflective suits, and they were around five feet tall.

00;20;06;13 - 00;20;26;29
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They stay near the craft. Third is different, larger, awkward movements. He's composed, as Shrum would describe it, as something like metallic material. And there was an opening where the mouth would be and a pair of glowing orange eyes that comes up all the time. Also came up in the blood soaked case. Right? This third figure approaches the tree.

00;20;26;29 - 00;20;48;21
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It produces a puff of white smoke that rises toward Shrum, and it renders him unconscious. He wakes to find the two smaller figures climbing the tree toward him. He throws items from his pack. He shoots an arrow. The arrow strikes the larger figure with a metallic sound. They retreat. They return more smoke. Unconscious again. He wakes. He fights them off with fire, throwing burning objects down.

00;20;48;21 - 00;21;07;04
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This goes on for hours. At dawn they're gone. No trace of the craft or the figures. Kind of reminds me of the Kentucky Goblins case. Yeah. And an hour later he finds one of his friends, Vincent Alvarez, who tells him he saw a large craft departing the area in the previous night. That matches the same description of what Shrum described.

00;21;07;04 - 00;21;32;16
Unknown
So we have two witness corroboration, and the departing craft was seen independently. The case was investigated by kneecap, which is the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. And they did that back in 1964. Shrum passed a polygraph examination. And this is a named witness, a named corroborating witness, a contemporaneous investigation and a polygraph result, all from 1964. Not bad.

00;21;32;17 - 00;21;57;08
Unknown
Yeah. And he fought him off alone? Yeah, he did for hours. And that's important, right? He wasn't passive. He was active and resistant for an entire night. And they they didn't take him, which tells you maybe something about what they were trying to do. They wanted to take him without injuring him. They used gas. They tried climbing. They didn't use force or try to shoot him out of a tree.

00;21;57;14 - 00;22;22;02
Unknown
That's kind of consistent with the profile. The profile is not predatory in the sense of injury. We have found some cases where people appear to be clearly killed by the phenomenon, but they're super rare. This profile is much more common. They're trying to take people without hurting them, and they're returning them in many cases, or taking them without hurting them and not returning them.

00;22;22;02 - 00;22;44;06
Unknown
So there is consistent I think we need to call it out as a feature. Yep. So the next case comes from Polites research and it is less sourced, but it fits the profile. A young couple is hiking near Glacier Point, and Yosemite National Park is part of a larger group on a week long camping trip. They separate slightly from the group.

00;22;44;06 - 00;23;07;18
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This guy goes dark now. Gradually, suddenly, immediately they look at their watches and it was just after three in the afternoon. They wait near a field of boulders and within minutes they hear their names being called and flashlights looking for them. Their friends arrive with park rangers and their friends tell them they've been missing for three days. The boulder field where they had been had been searched multiple times.

00;23;07;18 - 00;23;30;16
Unknown
No trace of them had been found and they have no memory of three days. So that's just the Jacob Jacobsen structure. Exactly right. The the guy from 1700s. Yeah, that's why it's worth mentioning four days experienced his minutes. I doubt they were familiar with the story of Jacob Jacobsen. Right. Three days experience is no time at all searched by the whole community.

00;23;30;16 - 00;24;00;16
Unknown
Back in 1759, this place searched by park rangers in Yosemite. No trace either time returned to exactly where they were before the details change, but the shape of the profile doesn't. All right, so let's now hear some cases from people who were actually inside. Right. Because we've been talking about, you know, the profile from the outside, but we have an account from someone who experienced it and came back and described it all.

00;24;00;20 - 00;24;20;14
Unknown
And the source is unusual. Yeah. The source in this case is a three year old boy. And as we mentioned in the past, children are not bad witnesses. The reason courts and police officers tend to look at children as good witnesses is because they can't lie consistently without a lot of coaching, and even with coaching, they tend to break down.

00;24;20;15 - 00;24;55;19
Unknown
Right. So this case occurred on September 2nd, 2011, Fowler's campground in the foothills of Mount Shasta in California, a three and a half year old boy walks away from family campsite is accompanied by the family dog. The dog returns alone, soaked, shivering, and dog collapses. Everyone raises the alarm. Every branch of emergency services respond, hundreds of searchers, and four hours into the search, a K-9 unit finds the boy alive, hiding under a bush near the riverbank in an area that had already been searched.

00;24;55;21 - 00;25;19;01
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He's tired, shivering but unharmed, and reunited with his family. Three weeks later, the boy is with his grandmother, Kathy, and out of nowhere he tells her he loves her and he says, but I don't like my other grandma, Cappy. Oh, and to her, she's the only Grandma Cappy in his life. So sure. So she asked him what that means and he tells her what happened during those four hours.

00;25;19;01 - 00;25;42;16
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Someone who looked exactly like his grandmother had found him and carried him to a place underground full of strange spiders, backpacks, guns all covered in cobwebs. As this figure climbed down a ladder into the space light above her hitter in a way that caused her body to flicker. And in that moment, he could see something beneath her that looked wrong, something that wasn't his grandmother.

00;25;42;17 - 00;26;03;26
Unknown
Something was pretending to be his grandmother. So there were other figures in the space. They were frozen and unmoving. They appeared to be captured. And then the strangest thing, and the reason that I find this story so credible is the boy describes the fake grandma Cappy giving him something like wax paper and asking him for a stool sample.

00;26;03;28 - 00;26;22;19
Unknown
What? Yeah. Not something a three and a half year old boy makes up, right? And then the grandmother added to the story by pointing out that a year earlier, she had camped with some friends down by the same river, and she woke one morning, face down in the dirt outside her tent with no memory of how she got there.

00;26;22;19 - 00;27;17;27
Unknown
And she was really sick, and she had a mark on the back of her neck that she initially assumed was a spider bite, and she couldn't remember how she had gotten it, but it sounds like she was knocked out by something that hit her in the neck. Like maybe a dart of some sort.

00;27;17;29 - 00;27;41;22
Unknown
So you take all that together? And the family came out and did one more interview. I think the boy was around ten, and they did it because the story got relegated to law. And it was a very interesting people write because it kind of echoes a lot of the fairy cases, like he gets taken into this cave and he sees these other captives that are held in some sort of immobilized state.

00;27;41;28 - 00;28;03;20
Unknown
This is a good point to talk about how different the stories are near missing witnesses. Some of them are describing, like Betty and Barney Hill, something like an alien abduction. Exactly what you would perceive as that beings that are like grays and they have a star map, and they tell her that we're from these stars, or you wouldn't even know where that is.

00;28;03;21 - 00;28;28;01
Unknown
And then there's stuff like this that just comes straight out of a fairy tale, right? Yeah. And there's all sorts of stuff in between. So we have to wonder, are those literal accounts? Where are they being taken? And let me be clear, I have no doubt that these people are experiencing something real. And to them, this is exactly what they're experiencing.

00;28;28;02 - 00;28;57;03
Unknown
My question is what's happening on the outside of them? Like, are they physically being removed to where they're obviously not in that location anymore, but where are they being transported to? And I don't think they're flying around the galaxy. Like a lot of these encounters tend to go. Another great case that we could bring up of someone who went missing had physical evidence is Carl Higdon.

00;28;57;03 - 00;29;25;10
Unknown
This happened in 1974, and I find his story to be pretty credible. There was some medical evidence associated with this case, but Carl went missing while elk hunting in the Medicine Bow National Forest, and it's super well documented from Carl's perspective. While he was gone, those aliens took him on a tour of the galaxy and showed him their home world, and he thinks there was something positive about it.

00;29;25;11 - 00;29;55;04
Unknown
You know, Travis Walton said the same thing, but there are counts are so different. This is either one of two things. Either all these different species are coming here and taking different people, and they're going off and experiencing different things, or something else is going on here. One possible explanation here. And again, I'm not saying that this isn't real, I'm just saying that it's an interesting parallel that I have found between DMT encounters and alien abduction encounters.

00;29;55;04 - 00;30;19;03
Unknown
And when you are under intense states of fear, DMT can be released into your brain. It's sitting up there all the time. I know you're trying to get at it right now, aren't you? Bouncing every day? All right, so I mean, what do we do with this evidence? Yeah, I think we just handled it carefully. Like we treat it as witness testimony and we clearly label it as such.

00;30;19;03 - 00;30;40;07
Unknown
But we can take an account like this child's account, which is affectionately known as the robot grandma story. I think I may have promised to tell it at some point, but yeah, that's the robot grandma story robot grandma. Because when she flickered, he thought maybe she was something like a robot. And then you know that obviously there's the grandma, there's the ferry connection.

00;30;40;08 - 00;31;09;23
Unknown
I mean, that case had just about everything, and and we could just say that the account was spontaneous. It wasn't solicited. Like he brought it up. Right? And he repeated it with consistent detail. The grandmother repeated it with consistent detail. The marks, the illnesses, the gaps in their memories. Those are independent points of corroboration. Something anomalous happened. And those are the same structural details that appear in Jacob Jacobson's account.

00;31;09;25 - 00;31;41;09
Unknown
In 1759, a 22 year old Swedish farm laborer and a three year old California boy in the modern era are describing the same shape of an experience. Yeah, they didn't know each other. This may come as a shock to some people, right? Yeah. I mean, and that's the weight of the argument. You know, that profile exists across centuries, much like UAP, where we can verify a number of cases and some of them turn out to not be verified.

00;31;41;09 - 00;32;12;19
Unknown
All the argument requires is one of them to be verified. Right? If one UFO exists, UFOs exist. If one anomalous disappearance occurred. There's precedent for the moniker disappearance. The vocabulary is different. Like Jacob describes a red mansion, little people. The boy describes underground tunnels and a robot grandma. Of course, it's different. They're from different centuries, different countries, different ages, different cultural frameworks.

00;32;12;20 - 00;32;44;13
Unknown
Like. But what happened to them? The shape of it is the same. Yeah, yeah. So you know, the figure that that took Jacob Jacobsen described in the terms available to him in 1759. And then, you know, the figure the boy describes, his grandmother is describable within his own terms in 2011. It makes complete sense. I mean, Jacob was a 22 year old man, and he was approached by a very attractive woman.

00;32;44;15 - 00;33;13;06
Unknown
Yeah, they saw something that was familiar but different to I think that that's another feature here. And we're not going to conclude what that is. We're just noting the consistency and the features because the consistency is the evidence, not proof of a specific entity or a very specific mechanism that proof that the same thing is being encountered across time by unconnected people who have no way of comparing notes.

00;33;13;08 - 00;33;39;05
Unknown
Yeah, yeah, that's a good point. I like that because the consistency is the evidence. So let's close the loop. We got to go back to what we talked about the last episode. Monica Raisa June 22nd, 25, Angeles National Forest 60 year old weekly hiker trail. She knows well Monica Risa. She makes eye contact with her companion. She waves the companion, turns back.

00;33;39;06 - 00;34;10;04
Unknown
She's gone. No central, no body, no physical evidence of movement in any direction. Helicopters. Dogs. Flare. Weeks of search. Nothing. No suspect, no explanation. Put that case next to Jacob Jacobs, a young man. Routine errand place he knew well. Gone. Community search for days. No trace. Yeah. Put that next to the Mount Shasta boy and his grandma searched area.

00;34;10;05 - 00;34;43;05
Unknown
No one found them. Reappeared in a previously searched spot. The cases where people come back, tell us what the profile looks like. Near companions. Instantaneous absence. Zero physical trace. Search fails. Return with fragmented or absent memory. Monica Reza fits every element of that case except the last one. She hasn't come back, right? In the case that resembles her the most closely dates back to 1759.

00;34;43;07 - 00;35;18;26
Unknown
Yeah, they span continents. They span cultures. They span centuries. They've been recorded by Swedish clergymen, documented by kneecap investigators, photographed on a BlackBerry and told spontaneously to grandmothers in Northern California. The profile is real, and it has been for a long time the people who have spent 70 years classifying everything related to this phenomenon like every document, every encounter, every piece of evidence, have known about abductions as a part of the phenomenon for a long time.

00;35;18;29 - 00;35;43;23
Unknown
Yeah, that's not speculation like this gift briefing in Congress that was held in March in reaction to McCaslin, confirms that people with oversight authority looked at what was happening to researchers connected to classified programs and decided the contents were classified. They looked at Monica Reza's profile, and they decided what they knew about that was classified. So here's the question we're leaving you with not.

00;35;43;24 - 00;36;08;19
Unknown
Did the phenomenon take Monica Reza? If we can't answer that with data, then the question really becomes, what does the government know about this profile? Because they have at least 70 years of data. They have a classified briefing about a missing general connected UAP programs. They had a missing rocket scientist whose case the homicide bureau won't close. Why has the homicide Bureau not closed the case?

00;36;08;20 - 00;36;33;21
Unknown
Yeah. So they've decided that this is something the public is not allowed to know. Maybe that explains some of our censorship, I don't know. Right, right. If it was nothing, they would say nothing. You don't classify nothing. So the profile goes back to hundred and 66 years. The government has been collecting data on the phenomenon for, what, 70?

00;36;33;24 - 00;37;07;22
Unknown
So that's 196 year head start we gave them. And they're still not talking. Yeah. Which is itself data like everything we've established in these three episodes. Right. The the monologue chain, the institutional silence, the near missing cases, the Jacob Jacobson case, it all points the same place. The phenomenon is real. It is old, it has a consistent profile, and the people who know the most about it have decided you shouldn't.

00;37;07;27 - 00;37;29;02
Unknown
That is the signal. Okay, let's not get lost in the cases and the noise like that's the real signal. We're going to keep saying that until they decide something different. Right on. You know. And that's 14 wins. Everything we referenced tonight is in the show notes. And the companion piece at 14 wins got we got to mention our website.

00;37;29;06 - 00;37;54;28
Unknown
And you know folks you know likes shares ratings. We know we keep saying it and we mean it. You know because we're not getting the algorithmic help anywhere. And you know what? If this reaches someone it should reach, it will be because you sent it, you know. So until next time, stay with the evidence. You know, even when the evidence is older than the country you're sitting in.

00;37;55;01 - 00;38;19;01
Unknown
Yeah, that's right to our fairy episodes and beyond here. So this is an old, old it really is. One of the best things I didn't mention earlier, though, is that, you know, the Jacob Jacobson story is when he refused to eat the food, right? Those little people were serving on food. And that was a that's a very big theme.

00;38;19;03 - 00;38;44;18
Unknown
And it reminded me of. Yeah, it reminded me of the Mad Tea Party and Alice in Wonderland. Kind of the same concept. Yeah. A couple other things about that case. Like he did call on his religious beliefs in order to get it all to go away. So that was one of those instances where that's notable. And there was a big red light in the middle of the table that I always find very interesting.

00;38;44;19 - 00;39;08;26
Unknown
Yeah, it shows up a lot. Yeah. The folklore of the little people, you know, I love I love the, the you know, we could talk about this stuff forever, but the hobgoblins there was. Yeah, I remember hearing that there were rules about like, if there was a hobgoblin living in your house because they would fix things for you and that they were really sensitive.

00;39;08;26 - 00;39;32;11
Unknown
They always had the little quirks, you know, little tics. And one of the one of the things they really hated was if you mention anything about their clothing, they would get insulted and leave your house forever. Stuff like that. I didn't know goblins were so in fashion. Well, hobgoblins, they can be very. They can be very resourceful. Yeah.

00;39;32;11 - 00;39;51;24
Unknown
I thought next time we would just kind of kick back and talk about everything that's been going on this last month. We stayed focused. And I think that that was key, because you're not going to get through something like this by just doing it in a scattered circular fashion. So I think we stayed focused and we saw it through.

00;39;51;24 - 00;40;15;15
Unknown
And I think we need to talk about everything that's happened in the last month or so. There's a lot of talk about UFO disclosure. That's a real that's a real topic. Maybe we'll just do current events. So we haven't done that. Wow. Right, right. Next time. Sounds good. Good talking to you around. Good talking to you, bones. Take care of everyone.

00;40;15;17 - 00;40;39;27
Unknown
When the dam did meet the power relief blackmail networks and the incomplete 48 wins passing what the mainstream won't see. Government controller. Just strangers in the VIP. Let's get dark. 48 wins. Blowing through the server. Racks. Files. Redacted secrets in the zipper packs. Epstein anomaly compromised a pyramid scheme. Dam data. Other Island floating in the mainstream. We don't believe we measure what the digit say.

00;40;39;28 - 00;40;57;00
Unknown
From paranormal skies to the Black Sea. The rules are by the ones who write the law for the and database. Got numbers. You never saw a frog. Now we're tracking private planes. Little Saint James anomalies compromise the range of the damn. We gotta love the elite. Where the UFO?