It Was A Clown Show

In this episode of "On The Porch," join Ken and Todd as they discuss a range of topics, from their fear of snakes, tornados , and garage sales versus craft fairs. They also discuss vinyl records and the unique listening experience they offer.

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Here we are again. Back on the porch. How you doing, Ken? Yeah, I'm good, man. You know, I was thinking about, you know, the last episode. We weren't sure how to start this thing off, and I don't think we need to have an official kick off every episode because we're just. We're just sitting down, talking. We don't. We don't have an official start time or start for our conversation. So I think we just need to. Yeah. Everyone starts the way we start. I mean, most conversations begin with. Hello? Or how you doing? And then it just kind of rolls from there, you know. Mhm. And so there's a Yeah. It was always, you know, it's kind of funny because my, my son and a couple of his friends, uh. This week they had to do a. Miniature podcast episode for their English class or. Something and. Oh my gosh, they struggled with the introduction. And to get to. Get it out right and was trying to give them pointers and stuff and. To get it out. But it is, it is. A, an awkward. Thing to come up with that. Introduction. And. Figure out what's comfortable to say because. You know. We first starting out podcasting, none of it's comfortable to say because it just feels so unnatural. Yeah. Because you want it. You want to you want it to sound. At least I wanted it to sound professional, but you know, I'm not professional. I'm just a normal little guy. I mean, you know, having fun and enjoying. Enjoying. A podcast. So I'm not going to stress over. Yeah, that's me too. I always, uh, I always take things up to 11 and then it's like, why you just. You just the. Mailman. You know. Enjoying it for. Fun? Yeah. You're just speaking of last week's episode, we talked about SteelDrivers for a little bit, and I said I would listen to them in the get back with you for this week. And I did get a chance to listen to them. Okay. And my first thought is these guys think I'm a big I'm a big American Idol fan. I remember watching, like the very first season when Kelly Clarkson won. And I can't say I watched every episode of every season since because it kind of took a nosedive there after about, I don't know, seven or eight seasons of the original run. But then they've had this comeback on ABC. With. Lionel Richie and Katy Perry and Luke Bryan, and that has been absolutely spectacular. And um. And my first impression of the SteelDrivers is, oh, these are the guys that sing all those songs that people audition with. I have no idea. Where they came from. Yeah. For sure. And Chris Stapleton wrote almost every single one of those. Yeah. And, uh. I really, really love. I get the bluegrass. I hear the bluegrass, but it's not quite the bluegrass. When someone says bluegrass, It's definitely not what I think of. You know, though. In their sound, because I guess I'm used to more of a gospel style bluegrass with like the four part harmonies and like, the mandolin and chug chug in a way and. You know, and that kind of thing. And but. Super cool, super cool. Old school. Bluesy. Country music. With, uh. With that bluegrass style instrumentation. And it's so I really enjoyed them. I really appreciate. You're turning them on to me because. It was really, really good. Yeah, they're, they're one of my favorites, you know? Chris Stapleton Yeah. Like I said before, they were really bluesy. So when you say bluegrass is not like the old school bluegrass, they're really bluesy. And I hate to say it, but leather songs was about killing and dying. And so. You know, that was that was Chris Stapleton writing those. And but now they have a. After Chris Stapleton left the band to do his own thing, they they went up in Michigan and found another guy that sounds like 99% like Chris Stapleton. Oh, wow. Yeah And so if you didn't know the listener, you would think it was still Chris Stapleton. But I don't know. I don't think their songs are quite as good as it used to be because Chris isn't a write in form, you know. So yeah, well. That makes a difference. They kind of pulled that old journey thing where they found the guy from the Philippines. That sound just like Steve Perry. Mm. You know, you know, they kind of like. Did. Did you. Did you happen to see anything live with Chris Stapleton, what he used to look like as compared to now? No, I just listened. I had a lot of time on the road. You know, and. And stuff this past week. And so so I just listened and I kind of got a new thought on Chris Stapleton. You know, I will say he's a country artist, but I'm not 100% convinced he's a country singer. Mm hmm. If that make if that makes sense. Sure. Absolutely. I mean, he's a he's a blues singer. He's what he is. Uh huh. And he just happened to sing. He had a big hit that everybody found out about when they first started. A lot of people, Tennessee Whiskey. And that was actually that was actually a George Jones song. Yeah. Tennessee Whiskey. I think the guy that wrote it wrote it in like 1983 or something like that. And he's he. Is a songwriter that's wrote a kajillion things and a lot for George Jones are not George Jones. George Strait. And and and thing but. You know listen to the SteelDrivers and I don't know if this is going to make a lot of sense to anybody, but it's just kind of where I feel I'm not I'm not a big when I talk music. I'm not a big, you know, sounds like guy. I hate it when people like, well, this band sounds like this other band, you know. But my vibe of listening even to the SteelDrivers and, you know, listening to Chris Stapleton as a solo artist, he gives me that Bob Seger vibe. Mm. And, and I'm not sure why. I don't know if it's the the way they sing or their tone or what it is, but that's just the vibe I get. Yeah. The, the raspy voice. But. But, uh. Well, I know he has a raspy voice, like a Chris Stapleton and. Yeah. Night moves. You remember that album? Yeah, I loved that. Yeah. That was a good one. Yeah. Yeah, I see. And Bob Seger is not one of my favorite artists at all. Right? Yeah, I mean. He's. He's okay, but I love Chris Stapleton with Bob Seger, and I'll tell you why. And it's not Bob Seger fault, but years ago, Chevrolet had the, like, a rock commercial. Um, you know, run and there was Bob Seger singing like a rock. And sure, they flat wore me out on that. I wonder how much money I make. Bob Seger. But that's the way it is. I'm the same way with John Denver. Time Life commercials for those old enough to remember Time-Life commercials. They wore me out on the old John Denver in between my after school. Cartoons in the and so. You know, it's funny. How things hit you. Sideways. Sometimes. Yeah. But Bob Seger, there's no telling how much money he made off of that. Like a rock. Oh, no. I'm sure he made plenty, you know, And he still, you know, he's still touring and doing things and popping up here and there. So. Yeah. Well, I won't give everybody listening to us a little homework again on another YouTube. Oh, is it? Well, it includes Chris Stapleton, but Patty Loveless and Chris Stapleton, they sing You'll Never Leave Harlan Alive. And do yourself a favor and go listen to that. Patty Loveless is awesome, but they sing the heck out of that song. That's fun to watch. The video's really good quality and the audio system. Amazing. Yeah. But. But if you like country music, go, go. Listen to that. Yeah. That the only song they have together. Uh, that's. They did a couple that was, I think that was at the CMA Awards or something. I forget what it was. Yeah. But I think they sang a couple. They're together, but it's pretty amazing. I just, I just had this thought that, that this is a music podcast. It's not just one thing that we both enjoy a lot of. Mm hmm. It's like. So which would be the best, like male female music duos that had like, a limited song. You know. You know, like Dolly and Kenny sung a jillion songs together, it seems like. Mm hmm. And then, like. Conway and Loretta probably sung a jillion songs together. You know? And so which one's, like, paired up a couple of times or fewer. You know. Which were the best? Like, I'm. Thinking of Stevie. Nicks and Tom Petty with Quit Draggin My Heart Around or. Who did in Love with Lionel Richie. I want to say. I can't remember now who did it. I want to say like I want to say Linda Ronstadt. But I do not think that's. Correct. Well, Linda Ronstadt, they lost love. Yeah. I can't remember that. I can hear it, but I can't remember her name. Yeah, the man you're talking about. You mentioned Loretta Lynn there a while ago. So if you hear somebody scream in the T.V., go up real loud. Everything's okay. My wife's in there. Listen to CMA. Awards. Diana Ross. Okay. Yeah, absolutely. I mean that my wife is in there listening to the CMA Awards, and we have a friend. Her name is Amy Russell, and it's Loretta Lynn's granddaughter. And my son my son used to be a fiddle player for her, for Amy, and they toured with Loretta Lynn and they would open up for her. And when Loretta died, when Loretta passed, they had a memorial for it's a it's the Opry. It's Opry House. And Amy, her granddaughter and Lucas Nelson, sang a duo and the name of the song. What was the name of See, it was Lay Me Down. That was a duet. And Loretta and Willie Nelson had done and became a hit. So they they they redid the song and they're up for a CMA awards tonight. So we're really. Oh. So we're really pulling for Amy and hope she wins. So good luck to her. And how. Did you. Yeah, absolutely. That would be awesome. You know, awesome to. Get the award. You know, all the genres of music. Country music has the best awards shows. Yeah, they do. Yeah. Yeah. Well, did the tornados come by your your way up there a few days back? Um. Fortunately, they skipped us. They went way north and way south. They were at least 2 hours south and at least two and a half, 3 hours up north. We got some good wind and a little rain.

And then, like, right at 8: 11:53

00, we had a thunderstorm come through and blew pretty hard. The city hit the the old siren or tornadoes iron. But, you know, by the there's one of those pop ups that by the time the siren and. The. Storm hit blown through. And the. City I live in is a little trigger happy on the tornado siren anyway, because several years back we had a. A a. Real tornado that was really close. Mm hmm. And the siren didn't go off until after the storm was over. Oh, no. Yeah. So that sounds. Like now they're like, really? They're really. You know. Itchy on that. Trigger, so. Well, it's better to. But, you know. Yeah, better to. About you guys. Better to blow the horn in, you know, and the not so I guess that's good. Yeah. How about you guys, Do you get any. Yeah, well. The storms that you were talking about, they went south, they, they came right into us. I mean, directly into this little. Uh. Little area that I live in. But I still get used to the weather up here that we're up in the up in the hills. And it breaks up because the elevation so high and it broke up into thunderstorms, but it was tornadoes all the way. So I stayed up until they were saying between living in three. So I

stayed up till like 3: 13:30

00. You know, I don't know what I was going to do for 20 to comes, but it's like I can fight it off or anything. But yeah, I just felt like I should stay up and of course at Rick my next day, you know, got 2 hours of sleep and all that good stuff. Yeah. Did you, um. Have you ever been through a tornado, like, in the middle of, you know, like your home been wrecked or anything? We just were so close for comfort or anything. Yeah, absolutely. I mean, when we lived in Nashville, actually, the little the little town, the little part of Nashville that we lived in was called Donelson. And it came probably, I don't know, 500 yards, maybe 600 yards from our house. And I mean, it just trashed everything over there. I mean, the whole neighborhoods and stuff. It was across the road and back a few few blocks, you know. So no. But you could hear, you know, how people say they sound like a freight train. Well, I worked for an airline for 30 years or more. And to me, it sounded like a commercial airline plane more than a train. You know, when they I guess that everybody hears an airplane from outside on the side of the runway like I do or like I did. You know, when when you hear a plane that close, that's what that tornado sounded like to me, was a was it was a it was a commercial airliner revving its engines up and taking off. Yeah. Yeah. The little town I live in, it got actually hit by a tornado, but it was back in the early seventies. In fact, my. Aunt and uncle. My mom's sister and brother in law, they lived here. They were living just a few blocks from where I am now. And they had built they were going to build a house on that lot. But in the meantime, they were staying in this little single wide trailer that was like off on the corner of the lot. And it went through. In. Direct hit on their trailer. And they they had. Their son was I don't want to say I can't remember probably less than three years old, but, um, um, you know, of course completely demolished the trailer. But, you know, thankfully all three of them were perfectly fine shooken. Up, but no injuries. You know, and. But it was kind of the funniest thing because my uncle, when he came home from work, you know, took off his jacket because it was December. And put. It on the back of one of the the kitchen chairs and threw all that, you know, the the the trailer just being completely blown off and everything. That one kitchen chair with his jacket on, it was still exactly where it was. Or how does that happen? Man? I was I have. I have I have no. Idea. And but the closest me personally, I was carrying mill. In the. Little town not far from here. And it was the whole town is nothing. But we call it park and Loop. As a mailman, we're going to walk the whole thing. You know, you're not. You're not sticking it out. The window or man up boxes. Next, the road. And this little town, it's called Chaffee. They have a tornado siren. It is the scariest siren I've ever heard. Is like one of those old, hand-cranked military air strike kind of sirens. That were, you know, the air raid hall. It was going. All. Yeah. And it was going off and you could. See Oak. Blown up. And I was way too far away from my truck. To make it back. You know, it came up so fast and. I was just kind of get, you know, the rain hadn't quite started up. Yet and. So I was kind of getting there were some houses with some cover up, so I was kind of getting the mail dropped off and I dropped one off on this trailer and this lady come to the door and she had oxygen. On. And had a cigarette in her hand. And she was like. She was, oh, gosh. You can come in here till the storm's over. And I'm like. No, it's okay. I'll take my chances out here. Like a bomb getting ready to go off there. And so I got a couple of houses up. And these were the these. People, they weren't home, but the way their house was shaped. Yeah, like gave me about three square feet of cover from the weather. And I just. It was just crazy. Standing out. There on their porch went through. And. You know how those storms are. It's like they're here. And then. Then they. They're gone. And. You know, if you just look at the sky, it looked like nothing happened. Yeah, sure. I mean, I know there was another one that came close to our house and but I think it was straight line winds, but it blew a lot of trees down. But I was looking out the window and then all of a sudden our windows went just gray, like somebody had thrown a five gallon bucket of gray paint on our windows. It was just all the water being pressed up against the windows. And so we tore out down to the basement like, yeah, yeah, it's is not a tornado. It's something, something going on. So. Yeah, I mean. You know, Holly's family, Holly's from Southern California and her family call me like you guys are in for the tornadoes. And a lot of times the tornadoes would be like 400 miles away. You know? Yeah, they're not even that close to. They're like, Hey, you guys live out there with all the tornadoes? I'm like, Gary, you guys live out there with all the earthquakes. You guys get way more earthquakes than we get. Tornadoes, earthquakes. You've heard. Me. You know. And I've told this story a lot to the people. It's like, you know, there's been a few years back. And and that. I stay in bed one night. And. I don't know why something went off on my phone. I checked it and they had. The. Earthquake. In. California is right right where her mom her mom lives in Missouri now, but she's still living out of California time. And I woke Holly up and I said, hey, there was a earthquake where your mom lives. And she go, How big was it? And I told her, like, I forgot what it was for something for three. Something like that. She was okay. She went back to bed. You know, just. Lay in their bed, like, all worried about her mom and stuff. Yeah. So I just want a big earthquake in her mind. Yeah. Yeah. And then. Like, a few weeks later, Holly wakes me up. She's, like, it's storming outside, are going to be okay. And I, like, go to the window of her bedroom and, like, look out silent. Yeah, we'll be fine. And we're back to sleep. She's delayed in bed, just like wondering. If you'll be okay from the store. There's only a 4.6 dorm, that's. All what you're used to. Yeah. I guess it all depends on what you're used to. I mean. Oh, yeah? Yeah. You just kind of grow custom and roll with those. Those punches. I mean, I got the bejesus scared out of me today, so this afternoon I actually was right before I came back home, the, the podcast that was done at our property attorneys, we bought some property down in Palmdale, which is like not even 20 minutes from here, but it's down at the bottom of the mountain in this wolf real Wolf River valley. A man is known for snakes, for copperheads and rattlesnakes. And so it's time for him to start coming out. And I'm clearing this property as a bunch of barbwire and stuff that was down here because the property had been maintained in here. And barbed wire is mesh down the ground and vines growing over it. So I'm just hooking up to the this wire with my truck, you know, the chain and just pulling all this barbed wire out to clear it out so we can clear the land and, you know, noir or not get caught up in the mowers or anything. So I'm you know, I have a I have a walking stick to poke around as I'm walking, you know, because I'm scared of snakes. You know, it's pretty warm today. I need to get some snake boots. Actually. Does it come up to your knees? I've never thought I'd say that, but I think I need those because I'm just I can't hardly walk because I'm just scared almost to step on you know, copper head. And so I'm been over hooking, hooking the chain up to this to this fence and the run across the road. The lady, the lady has a farm across the road. She she trains racehorses. So there's some horses over there, but they have a donkey, too. A little little donkey. And this donkey just goes under the fence. They can't keep it in. So they just put up some of those yellow square signs out by the road. This is donkey crossing on it. And so it just it just roams around like a dog, man. And every time we come over, there's the property, the donkey comes over there. And I didn't know it was anywhere around. So I'm down there hooking up the chain and and then, you know, so I'm looking for snakes and everything. And so I stand up and I turn around and this donkey is like three feet behind me. And he was because I've been feed it cares, you know. And it just I was not expecting that. You know what I'm thinking? You know, had snake on my mind and all that and I jumped it would I didn't scream but I came real close to it. But that was that was something that you know, after I got that little part of the fence pulled out, I was like, Yeah, I'm going home. That's good enough. But cute little cute little donkey. They have little blue wagon. They hook up to it, you know, where you can ride, where one person could ride behind it. So. Yeah, but. It just roams around like a dog. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not fond of snakes myself. You know? I'm not, like, deathly scared, like. Like some people can be. My mom is definitely scared. She'll. She'll. She'll do with whatever she has to do to. Get away or to kill the. Snake. You know, she doesn't care what kind it is. And but. I just don't like I just not fond. Of them at. All. Yeah, I can go. Risk my life and never see one. Again, and I'd. Be just fine. Well, there's no getting away from up here. But I finally learned there's water snakes up here, and they're the exact same color. And shape is a copperhead. They look exact same clothes. Everything except the the the water snake that has dark brown on them that shaped like a Hershey's kiss. You know, Hershey's kisses smaller at the top and larger at the bottom. If if it's shaped that way, that's the water snake. But if it's inverted, it's like upside down Hershey's, cuz that's the copperhead. So I mean, they look exactly like me. It's amazing. Except just that's the only difference. I the camouflage is unreal. Yeah. When you see it. Yeah. Yeah. We have those, both those around here too. And. And every once was I want to find a rattlesnake that's usually a little bit more north and west from where I'm at. But it wouldn't be too uncommon to find one. You know, big. Thing around here where, you know, where I see all the time, or just black. Snakes and. Gardener's snakes and blue razors. Blue razors around here like crazy and that. But we have those, too. I remember being a kid, and there were some railroad tracks real close to mom and dad's house where I grew up, and me and my buddy Paul were walking. We weren't walking on the tracks. We were walking in the woods parallel to the tracks. And we had like our our B.B.. Guns and stuff and just doom. Whatever 13 year old boys do in. The woods, B.B.. King. You know, And and. He was walking ahead of me. And. He froze with one foot up in the air. And I'm like, What are you doing? And he's like, he's like, has a blue racer. And it's it. Was head was raised up and his foot was right above it. If he would put his foot down, he would. Stepped on it. And I mean, they're not poisonous. They will chase you. And they will. Probably try to bite. But you know, they're not poisonous. But the thing about them is they're always in pairs, you know? So if you see one, there's another one not very far away. Oh, really. And yeah. And. And I think we either can't where if we shoot it off with a stick or I think we try to shoot at the beginning, but none of us would get close enough. To. Actually hit the thing. So I think we end up just kind of taking a stick and swinging around. And. By the bumped it on the head, we didn't kill. It, I'll tell you that, because it raised off and then we saw the other one which like freaked us out because we couldn't find where he was. You know. And then we got about I don't 30 yards up and he's still ahead of me. And Paul steps on this. Stick that. That's on the ground in the when he steps on it, the stick spins. In and in. Twirls and rattles the leaves and touches his leg. You know, he gives us really good who's like I pitch. Girl kind of scream We thought. You was a goner. Well so I don't think we walk through those woods ever get after that. Now I'm thinking about them. You know, it's a good reason not to walk through there. Yeah, but. Yeah, it's just. It I. And I remember to. Speaking of snakes, there was a time we got so much rain that they just kind of came out of everywhere. Was like. You know. Felt like we were being infested. They were drive down the road and they were just. Like. Literally we hustled with my mom to go to my sister's house because her basement. Was flooding and it's. Like a three block drive. And I bet we saw 20 snakes. Oh, my goodness. Trying to get out. Yeah. Just to try to get, you know, out of all the water and stuff. Trying to get to some dry land. Yeah, they were just getting flooded out of the ditches and in all their holes. And, and all that and. Yeah. Give me the keys. Yeah. So. Well, I haven't seen too many snakes up here, but everybody is from here telling me to be careful, you know, there. So we'll see. And. Well. Hopefully you won't a why don't you live up close to the Appalachian Mountains? You might be getting picked up by your church or something. Yeah. Yeah. And this man I'm sure I'm sure there are some churches up here like that, man. And there's this one place I've ever been in where there's more churches than people, you know, And yeah, when you meet somebody, the first question is what church do you go to? So, yeah, there's that kind of place up here. Yeah, there's all kinds of all kinds of people up here. It's a great place to live, man. I'm glad we moved up here. My wife, they got their pontoon boat, you know, they totally. They bought one. We got delivered Thursday, this past Thursday. So they they've been out there on it. And today took my inaugural ride on it. And we put our three dogs out there. Man, it was like a clown show trying to get all the. Dog to get those. Three dogs because the new one, our puppy loves water, man. She jumped right down there. The other two, the grown up ones, it was like I couldn't hardly drag him on his pontoon, man. I'm like, Come on, this is big on here. Because they just they don't really like the word. You know, poodles are supposed to like the water, but they don't really like it. But yeah. We got him on there and we just made one circle and came right back because they were just pace and I was scared it was going to jump off the boat or something. Yeah. They want to be back on the couch. Yeah, they did, man. We got have lap dogs. Yeah. Yeah. That's why they probably just weren't around it as much when they were puppies. And so now they're just kind to, you know, the thrill is gone, so to speak. Well, they'll go down, get their feet up. That's about it, you know? So. Yeah, yeah. Our dog's a big chicken for everything. It doesn't matter what it is, is he. He won't even he doesn't even like for us to take him outside. When it's dark. When it's dark, he's so and. He's a good sized dog and I don't know what he's got to be scared of, but whatever it is, he's scared of it. And yeah, you know. Just I guess just this is just his personality. I don't I don't know if it's because, you know, we got him. He was three or four months old and he was just a stray. You know, And, you know, so. Some friends of ours had found. And they couldn't keep him. And so we we took him. So I don't know if he had too. Many years or too many years too long of a time as a puppy, as a stray or what, you know. So yeah. So some dogs are like that. Yeah. Well my, my, my, ah my. If you even slowed down, they're going to be trying to get in your lap, you know, So you had to walk at a fast pace around the house. Yeah, but, uh, but my wife. Got them because it's so dark here. My wife got on these collars when we let them out to go to the bathroom at night with the. It's these led to these collars that they're purple, have lights in them so they glow and you can put them on, you know, push the button, they'll flash or blink. And so you see these these purple lights out there running through the woods. And then but the the small one has a green collar, So we could tell her apart from the other two. But that's not what you keep up with. Midnight just disappear in the dark. So, yeah. You know, but if you don't know what it is. All the streetlights like Nashville. We have, we do have a streetlight up there, but it's still dark. Once you get down the streetlight, you know. So it is funny. Their collars. Yeah. You know, that's one thing that just absolutely amazes me. Is. I guess they call it light pollution at night. You know, I live in a small town, 4500 people and, you know, we have street no normal amount of street lights and not like. We're in New York City or anything. And, you know. You get a pretty good view of the stars, but man, you just drive outside of town and, you know, down some farm road somewhere where there's no lights and look up like a whole new world. Yeah, it is, you know. And it's just just amazing how little light it takes to kind of. You know, block the view. Of all the stars and stuff. And. And that's crazy. Yeah. If, if you had done that in a while, when you go out and you see them like that, just like man I for go, you know what this looked like. Mm. Yeah. It's a it's not a, you know, not as important. You know, the. General population I guess has. It used to be one time because it used to be here you know, you know. Navigation and all that was done by the stars and. You know, of course the, you know, you know, the counting of time and days and, you. Know, I guess it still kind of is, but we just kind of rely on. You know, the calendar and stuff and, you know, it's just. Not that important. And. You know, because. For whatever reason, I guess it might be just because we don't see it every day. Like it, you know, without, you know, being. Diffused or even impossible to see. But yeah, it's it's just well, like I said, I don't have my street's not like a big, bright city or anything, but it's still just. Enough to to dim it down. Mm hmm. Yeah. Don't take much. There's a it's about 20 or 25 minutes from here, but it's an official dark space, they call it. And they'll have stargazing parties out there, you know, during the summer when there's things going on, you know, some kind of. Yeah, it's like. June meteor showers and. Meteorites and stuff right through. I don't know when they are, but when there's something like that that goes on an eclipse or something like that, they'll they'll have an official like the park rangers will go out there and tell everybody what's going on. And I hadn't been to one of them, but I'm going to this year. Yeah. Yeah. That'll be fun. Yeah. Before you just practice in earlier, but staying up till 3:03 a.m.. So that's what she's doing. But that was a long night. That's all you. It's just waiting for the tornadoes. But I know they broke up the drought when they get when it right when the weather got here. And I'm like, you're kidding me. I stayed up all night for that. Yeah, but. Anyway, I've had. A few of them knock off quite. A few of those. Nights. Before. Yeah, I don't guess I should complain. It didn't, you know, in my house down. So I should be happy about it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, you're right. You know, from Nashville to where you are now, you switch so much altitude. That it's just completely, you know, it's not. It's not like you moved across town or anything. It's completely different atmosphere and weather conditions. Yeah, it sure is. You know, because in Nashville, once once the weather got across the Tennessee River, it was going to hit Nashville, whatever the weather was. But up here, there's no telling. Yeah, man, always. We always joke. That. Um, there's a town about 45 minutes north of us. Well, now I take that back. It's probably about 15 minutes now. I think they're back to. About 15 miles. I'll give you that right about 15 miles north of us. And we say there's a line there. The town's called Fruitland. And we. Say there's a line like that. If something bad is going to happen like a bunch of snow or big storms or something, it's going to be there and above. It's like it just it just does something there. It just doesn't come down that we do get those kind of things. But the it. Seems like it it hits that line more often than not. Yeah. So I guess just, you know. As for, you know, we're just a little too far south for some of that. Stuff to. To reach down and grab us. But man, I went to a you know, changed the subject. I went to a craft fair this past weekend. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I did a place called this BURNETT family farm. It's like a wedding venue kind of place. But they, they have a they had their first actual craft fair out there, had all these vendors, and there were some great vendors out there. I love stuff like, like any kind of parades or festivals, craft fairs or, you know, just anything like that. But then it was it was they had it Friday and Saturday, so the storms came through here. I think it was. Was it Friday night or Thursday. Yeah. Friday night. Yeah. Friday. Friday. Okay. So they didn't get here, the storms didn't get here till like I said, between 11 and 30. So they went out there and had the opening day of the craft fair on Friday and everybody had their tents set up out there. No other. Oh, is. It it's over on the part of here is the Cumberland Plateau and it's just flat out there where they where they were it in that way it manages I mean some of them couldn't find their tents. I mean, they don't know where they. Were. Whenever they came because whenever they came back Saturday. But yeah. Uh. You know, they, they still had their stuff, I guess they picked other stuff up and took it with them, but they, they left there, those little pop up tents, you know, they left us there and they were all gone. Yeah. My, my wife just bought a new pop up tent. She's going to be doing. Some more craft fairs this summer. And she in fact, she did a craft show, I guess, this past Saturday. It was just a one day thing from like. Nine to and a. Little private school was doing a fundraiser so that a craft fair or craft show or whatever they call them. And so she she had some stuff and took up there and she did pretty good you know for for it and things. But yeah, she just went the same to bought a new white one because she's going to be doing more of that stuff this summer. And. Selling all her crafty craft things she makes does and they're always a lot of fun. How they can sure paint me. She's good at that. No. Yeah, she she is. She is. And, uh. She enjoys it. And. You know, putting all this stuff together and. That. Just, well, go for help done with it. She was upstairs folding, learning to make these, like, little tiny, like, one inch square books out of one single paper by folding it. And I'm like, What are you going to do with that? She's like, I don't know. It's just neat to do, you know, you. She going to write it? Well. I have no idea. If she just. It just might be something she just saw and just want to learn how to do. Just learn how to do it. And or it might be, you know, something that she does, you know, she's. A lot of time. She does does these like one off little things, you know, just so she learns how to do them. And then, you know, I don't if. Later someone's like, I need to do this one thing, she's like, I don't know how to do it. Yeah. Just I guess to kind of put it in her bag of tricks. Yeah, You know, and things. So what's her favorite things to make? I enjoy them and she used to do them a little bit more regularly, but then, you know, life got a little bit busier and stuff and now. She's, she's able to get back to them and after a few years and and excited so. With what's her favorite thing to make what's her special or she have one. I don't know what her favorite thing I think her favorite thing to make is something she doesn't sell a lot of. They're called junk journals. We take like old books and old newspapers and all this stuff, and somehow you just kind of fold in glue it and so it together to make these like little journals you can write in. And they have all these pockets, but they're all decorated and all this like old book pages, newspaper article kind of things and pictures and stuff and she really likes making them. But I don't know if she sells those or or not, but she likes making the course. She does Christmas ornaments and those sell good. She does look like those signs, like wood pellet sign things and those always. Um, uh, so good. She's starting to make these journals. Um, out of like, they're like, it's like a journal cover made of wood. Mm. And it's got a special cut on the wood that makes it like, a hinge or it's like, flexible. And and then you can refill the pages, you know? So if you fill. It up, you can, you know, put new blank pages in it and. Those are really selling well. In fact. Um. And then there was a sign she made, you know, for the spring that sold really well and it had a, it was wood sign, round wood sign and cut out. And wood was a picture of a succulent, succulent flower thing and it said welcome suckers on. A. Good T-shirt. And. People really like that. So it just. It the. At the risk of sounding boastful, it really doesn't matter what she makes, it's going to sell well, because it's just. It's that good, you know. We don't have it anymore. But when we moved in our house, she wanted tile backsplash, um, in our kitchen. Well, we couldn't afford it. You know. We couldn't afford put tile backsplash. So up under the upper cabinets, you know, between the upper cabinets and the countertop, she took a, um, it's kind of like off white paint and painted it all off white. And then she bought some. Pin. Striping tape, that real thin pin striping tape and taped off squares. And then. Mm hmm. And then. She took a sponge in, like, four or five different colors of, like, tarnished brown that would match the paint color of the room and then, like, use the sponge. In the make, you know, dip. In, in randomly in those paints and then sponge and and all those squares. And then after it dried, she pulled all that pinstriped tape off and it looked just like tile. Did it really. Yeah. In fact you wouldn't know. It wasn't tile unless you were told. And then, then even people that were told would have to go over there and touch it just to see that it was just drywall. Being a drywall. Yeah. You know. In fact it was so good. I took a picture of it up there. Okay. The keep, you know, as I hate to. Paint over this, you know, when we remodeled our kitchen a couple of years back, every years I would go. Against. Yeah. You'd hate to paint over something like that with all the work. Yeah. That's how good. We had it up there for years. And they do like tile and she was happy and she never wanted the tile again. She's like, I just wanted it. She's like, I just want it tile for the looks, not necessarily for like, you know, easy to clean up the splatters or. Anything, you know, and and though it worked out but she just she's just got that an act to paint and to make things and it's. Neat to see and it's fun to watch because you just never know what's going to. Come on You'll be creative next. Yeah. Well, there's all kinds of ways to get around it. Tile the house that we used to live in, in Asheville was built in 1942, of course. So, you know, back then they did things a little differently. Tile wasn't as readily available as it is nowadays, but in our kitchen and the bathroom, they had a plaster, it was plaster walls, it wasn't drywall, it was plaster. But I guess they put the plaster up there and got it smooth and they had like a is like a big stamp I guess you would call it, and they would have this, I don't know what you would call it. It was like I guess it was like a square frame. They had these crisscrosses in there. It was a size of stamps and they would push it into the plaster and then pull it off. And it was the shape of tiles and that's sort of that's what our whole kitchen was, was there. Oh well because at first we thought it was tile, you know, because after you painted it you can't really tell. We just thought it was painted tile. But no, it was plaster stamp worked in the. Wow, that's cool. That's cool. Well, I know. Our our back, you know, we remodel our kitchen. That was last year. We remodeled. Our kitchen and. Put new flooring throughout the house. And. It was all set. Then we were running a little bit low on money because this stuff always costs way more than we really anticipate. Even if you get an estimates from everybody. MM So we're like, well I guess we'll just hold off on that on the backsplash, you know, for now and she's like, well I'm not going to paint one again because I done that. And I was like, That's fine. I got a call, I was at work. I get a call from Holly and she's like, I got the backsplash. And really, what did you do? She's like, she's like, I wasn't Menards. And they had, like, this peeling stick floor tile, like, on clearance. Oh, really? And she end up buying, like, enough of it to do the backsplash of our kitchen for like 13 bucks or something. Really hard to turn out. Yeah. It turned out great because. I mean, you can't tell. It's like decorative. It's like the. The, you know, it's the. Matches. And it's. Got a pattern to it. And and there was enough to do it all. And. And she's like it's floor tile though. And I'm like, but how was that? It was filled like all day long. I don't know what you know. It I guess it should hold. It on the wall and it's it's been there ever since with no problem. So that's good. That's good. Yeah. Oh, well. Let me ask you. This is talking about the craft fairs. Mm. Um. Which would you prefer? A good craft, fair or good yard sale? Uh, well. How good a yard sale you talking about? Well, I'm thinking like a swap meet kind of thing where, you know, kind of similar to a craft fair where you have multiple people. You know. Selling things. Some of it's junk, some of it's hidden treasures. I don't know. The crafters usually has, uh, popcorn and concessions. I like them. And getting the caramel, not caramel quarter called the sweet and sour corn. What's it called? Greenwise. Yeah, I like I always like getting food at it. Crawford. Yeah, Walking around. Those spiced pecans. Yeah, Yeah. All that good stuff, you know, Especially in the spring, you know, And when you first getting out, you know, in the season and, uh, yeah, I don't know, I guess, I guess a craft fair probably. But up here, I mean, we have this thing, it's the longest yard sale in the world. It's on the coast at 127 yard sale. It's 690 miles and it goes from Lake Michigan and it comes right through Jamestown on 127, which is like 3 minutes from my house and goes out in Alabama. And there's everything under the sun there. People come from all over to bring their stuff. They just they just line up down the road and people come here with U-Haul trailers to, you know, to buy stuff and take it back home. Yeah, but. They have. That's pretty on Memorial Day weekend 100 mile yard. So Highway 25. Mhm. And it's all right. But it's kind of gotten to the point that everybody knows what it is. So it's like the jack up all the yard sale prices. Right. Right now it's not worth fighting. The, the. Crowd and the traffic. Yeah. Yeah. That's what people complain about up here because there's normally not any traffic in that particular weekend in the couple of days leading up to it. There's traffic up here and they're like. Yeah, you can't even go anywhere, but. It's not that bad. Yeah, but back to your question. I mean, I had to say crawl for it to be a craft fair. Yeah. Because it's. It's the variety stuff, you know? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. You're right. The variety of stuff is the I guess for me, I may lean towards a good swap. Meet kind of thing. Because there's like a treasure hunt. You know? And, uh, it's. It's kind of like that thrill I get when I. You know. Go into an antique store. The thing I like best swap meet or garage sale is somebody may have something that they don't know exactly what it is. Mhm. And, and you might get a good buy on it you know in that kind of. Thrill, that treasure hunt really gets me fired. Up. Yeah. Then yeah. About a. Little dollar there is better food. At the. At the crisper. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. I bought a $5 1940s late forties percolator one time at a yard sale. It's just out in the garage and they're like, What you want for this? I don't know. $5. Really. Okay. Yeah. It was great. And I use it for a while, you know? Yeah, Yeah. There was one time Holly was at a swap meet. And, uh. There was an American Girl doll there, but she didn't have any clothes. But she was a legit American girl doll. And she's like, What do you want for this? And they're like a dollar. She's Like, okay, So she went home, bought it. And then the. Me, our oldest girl, she had a couple she had an American girl doll that she didn't play with anymore. And she had like, you know, four or five, six changes of clothes for it. So, Holly, I threw on a pair the set of the clothes on that girl and then put it out on Facebook, ended up selling her for like $60. Oh, my goodness. Okay. You know. Because those things are expensive. Yeah. And, uh. And there's the burglar just didn't know what they had at all or didn't care or. I don't know. But yeah, that was, that was wild. Mm. I've never felt, I've never found anything like that myself. Unfortunately I couldn't even tell. You what my best like deal at a. Garage sale swap meet thing was. There wasn't nothing like that. Yeah. Been the best thing I've ever found was a you know, you know, I collect bottles and, uh, I found a Batman vinyl. The, you know, the original Batman. I forget the names, but all those tunes they would play on there actually has words still. And, and it was a, you know, Bruce Wayne. It was a picture of the Batman Bill and Robin on the front of it. And that's the most that's the most expensive album that I have out of all of them. Well, it was like 100 bucks me and this one. And I bought it for a dollar or something, but I didn't know that when I bought it. I just like, Hey, this is kind of unique. I won't get that. Yeah. So I still have it is cool now. I always dig through everybody's. Vinyls when they're at the. Yard sale just to see, you know, what's there. Mm. That tells you a lot about the person. Right. Right. Mainly their age, I guess. Yeah. Usually their age. Yeah. If they go to church or not. Yeah. Yeah. That. That's big thing too because you know, I love it when people go to church but a lot of them, the record collection isn't very desirable. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, who's this? Who is this? Yeah. You know me. They're all probably worth a minute. I just don't know it. You know. For the people. For the people that really, like, really collect vinyl, like, hardcore. It's not like the popular albums and stuff that they're after because, you know, those were so mass produced was always like the one off 45 that. You know. Didn't sell very well. So only like 300 got made of this one artist that no one's really ever heard of. You know. Are the ones that the. Being, you know. Sought after. Well, but really have to be in the. Weeds to know none of that. Stuff. Sure. Well, the ones I like, the new ones, the vintage ones, it was actually being spun back whenever the album came out and it was popular, like Elvis or just just whoever it was. You know, whenever you did anything, you could buy new. But yeah, I like buying the ones it was, even though they're scratchy and a little beat up and stuff, I still I just think it's something nostalgic about having, well, that type of old. Yeah well there's a, there's a difference cause I have some old vinyls, you know, from, you know, the years that they were recorded and pressed like, you know, original release vinyl, you know, the first series and run. And then I also have like a reaper, you know, reproduction, repressing of that vinyl. And there's a difference. There's such a difference between them as far as the fullness. It's like the older vinyls that. That don't the tone in them is. To me, it's more warm, more and it fills the room better. You know, and and. Even new artists that release. Vinyls. One of my favorite albums from the past couple of years, believe it or not. Is. By an artist, Dua LIPA, her future nostalgia album. I just absolutely love it. And I have it on vinyl and it sounds great on vinyl, but there's such a yeah, I don't really have any way of like quantifying it or qualifying it, but it still has like a a digital sound to it. You know. Versus, you know, the old analog tape. Yeah. You know, recordings, that kind of thing. There's, you still just get that modern feel. In the, in. The sound and the vibe. Of it. You know. Just there's something about those that analog equipment that that bring in. Like I said, I'm just sitting here stumbling over our words because it's hard to put into words the difference in the sound. Sure. But you can tell you can just absolutely. They're just a lot warmer and. Just. Yeah. Sound more nostalgic. I don't know how else you can say it is hard to describe. Yeah, but it's just more of a vintage, nostalgic sound and it makes them easy to listen to. For me. I really enjoy listening to vinyl, You know, that whole. Oh, and the word was on tip of. My tongue, that whole intentional listening, you know. Listen the whole side and flip it. And my dad has a turntable that I tried to get fixed, try to get working again. And I just absolutely cannot. I forgot I forgot the brand. Of it, But you could stack. Six records on it and it would play all six. Front and back. Yeah, front and back. Oh my goodness. Yeah. But yeah, but the, the plate on it was frozen. And I couldn't get it off to change the belts or anything. Yeah. And you know, I tried, tried but you know, it's like I can only try so much. I try to heat it up and try to. You know, get some, you know. Penetrating oil and stuff like that to get it loosen in there. And just like as to the point, it's like, I'm afraid I'm going to break it beyond repair if I try to get this off anymore. Yeah. Yeah. You know, and. And so I just kind of gave up on it because I'd rather have it whole and not working. Right now than it, you know, than, than actually, you know, physically break it. Yeah. Yeah. I had this little thing that would hold all the records. And the. Maybe it didn't play. Maybe we just played one side of them. Now I'm thinking about it. I think it maybe I think that may I think it just played one side. I just would drop a new one. Yeah. Just drop a new one down. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we used to have. Those in the. Because I remember mom used to put a stack of records on and then like, clean the house. You know, and. Let the records play. And clean the house. That's the only way you could do it because player a Yeah, but, well, I just bought a newer one. I got, I used to have just a little cheap, cheap one and yeah, so I was a few miles out of the wallet, went and splurged about a clip's little. It's just a little, uh, not a desktop. What do you call this? You know, fits in the up on the shelf and has is the bookshelf speakers and Yeah, but it does have a subwoofer but it, it does pretty good. Nothing fantastic but it does pretty darn good. Yeah. You know, I just have a little audio-technica turntable and then this little. Sony. Like this top stereo system and they Bluetooth together and it works great. You know, I thought maybe that Bluetooth would kind of change the sound over a little bit, but it doesn't because I've tried to You can actually wire them together. So I tried it both ways. And to me, I couldn't really tell the difference at all. So I live with Bluetooth that because that just makes it easier to set up. In real space. Yeah. So. Well, man, those old, uh, those old console you ever seen those, like old Magnavox or RCA Keys, those big ones that sit on the floor and those things will crank If you can find one of those, it still in working condition for the for the time they were out as you know I don't know the technology I know has come a long way with those things but still I mean, they still put out some good sound. Yeah, I a couple of years back, my my uncle passed. Away and. His granddaughter is living in his house now and they still have all his own furniture. And they have one. And I'm like trying to call dibs without calling. Yeah. Get it, man. Get it. And it's I got the eight track player in it now having eight tracks, but it's like at. The end, it's like the wheel. The doors are on the top of it and they slide side to side. And. It's got a track player in it and a turntable. Yeah. And the. TV is all. Get out too. But it's like, yeah, like. Trying to call dibs without calling. Dibs. Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, I mean those, I mean, some of those are, you know, I don't know about all of them, but the ones that I've heard are just, I don't know, it just feels the room up with sound, you know, because that was before you had the, you know, the speakers where you could spread your speakers apart and one on one side of the room, one on the other. I don't know. I don't know what the difference is in it, but it's just very warm. And they would crank really loud. I mean, you could they could run you out of the room if you turn them all the way up. Yeah. That's awesome. That's awesome. Yeah, just about that analog equipment. Just it just it just. It just so nice, you know? Yeah. That the digital is bad. I'm not that guys like, you know, digital is bad because it all has its place. You know, people can make great music either way but. It just something about that nostalgia. And. Spinning a record and having something physical. You know your hands and and you know, have a nice cover. Yeah. And reading and reading it. You know, I used to be a big thing even when I was, you know, back I c these days. Was I'd read the liner notes forwards and backwards and sometimes multiple times. And you know. Practically memorized, you know, not only the members of the bands. But you know, who. Was the producer and. The engineer and, you know. Even who they gave special things to just, you know. Yeah, sure. Trying to figure out all that stuff and. Where it was recorded, it, that kind of stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Where it was recorded at and no. This and this and that. And it's hard to find that stuff on a song anymore if you ever try to find that on a new song. Then don't. Be click, click. And you know. It's not like it just all pops up. I kind of wish that Spotify or YouTube music or Apple Music or all of them would have like all those details available for streaming a song you wish you could just like click. It and get all that information listed, you know, I. Guess all that. Musical metadata on that song, right? Right. You know? Yeah. You know, it's like, dude, if the guy has engineered the song, he needs to be on the credit of the song as much as the person who wrote it and sung it. And, you know. Played bass on it. Sure. Played triangle on it and stuff. You know what. All those guys need. You know. Made their do, too, because that's all. That's all part of it. All part of what. You know, the. Finished product is. Yeah. Oh with the artwork on the old album covers was fantastic and I used to love those like, yeah, was it Jump out at Me is like a Boston. Uh, yeah, that's kind of telling my age. But Boston that the guitar that was the spaceship and that one was iconic. Yeah. That one there. That was iconic. I don't know. What else? Uh. Do you have any favorite album covers that you can remember? Oh, the ones that jump out to me. Kind of jump out to me because. You know, they're kind of funny. Yeah. Like, uh, you know. I always like. The, you know. People that say in the eighties, you always knew you had a great album with if the singer was on the cover, like laying down on his arm. You know, like a thriller. On that one album. Yeah. Kind of thing, you know. But I really like. Those Boston albums as well. Oh. I always like the artwork on Iron Maiden albums. Mm. Eddie on there and those kind of things. But I kind of like those. You know. Just because they were just like sci fi. Kind of, kind of feel. But I always like the real simple ones too. I think those were always my favorite. Mm. Um, you know, sounds. Crazy, but I like the Beatles White Album. I always just thought that was genius. You know? It just like, they just, you know, it. Was just always it's like, you know, being simple like that or, you know. No. You know, dark side of the moon, Right. Um, just the, the, just kind of, you know, just. Is like, Oh, what's next? You know, the Rush albums were always real good, too. I always like finding those. Hello. How about the John Denver albums? You like those? Oh, yeah. Yeah. You know, you get tired of John ever. Get tired of John Denver Because the time, life, music. Life music is. Just so you is. It's like, uh, if I have to hear you fill up my senses like a walk through the forest, that will put somebody. Where. It's like, of all the phrases. Yeah. That you use for that song, that's the one. That's the corniest. And I, you know, I appreciate John Denver. I know how many people love him. And he's. Fantastic artist, but just warming out. Just warming out on. Him. Though when he was actually the rock genre back in back in the day, you know that. Now I know that, uh, he was kind of a man without a genre. It felt. Like a, you know, But I think he was in. I think he was classified as Rocker. I think he was I don't know. I remember seeing an interview, I guess after he after he passed, someone said that he always considered himself Western music. You know, whatever that means. But, yeah, but, but he talked about the favorite covers of all ago and the Eagles, the greatest hits that blew. I. Forget what was even on there. But there's that that stands out in my mind That one does. Yeah. Yeah. I like that one a lot too. You know, it's bad because just not all of them are available now. That there was some. Oh, gosh, Dang it. What's the name of that album? I have it right over here. Um, George Michael had an album that. Oh, I can't think of the name of the album now. But it had a cool. It right over there. Hang on a second. I'll go get. The. Well, I guess Todd's going to leave me here, right? Just running the show. It's kind of hard to talk by yourself. So what are you doing? Yeah. I was digging through. I'm trying to find out. I can't think of the name. Well, yeah. It was really cool. He, you know, kind of a an album I had when I was a teenager that. I don't know. A lot of people. Know there was a band. I guess they're still around. A Christian band. They're still around, but kind of in name only. And so many members have changed. They're not the same anymore. But they were really. Cool in the in the nineties and they had an album called Shine. Bands called Newsboys. Yeah. And on the cover of that album was a bunch of was a picture of Holocaust survivors uh, and black and white picture from from the late forties that they weren't they weren't, you know they weren't showing signs. Of abuse or anything. They were killed up and all that stuff, you know, and it was just kind of a. The theme of the whole album was, you know, basically like being free. Kind of thing. And so they they use that as an attribute. That was always a cool album. Too. Because it was such a cover that always kind of stuck. With me too. But um, but yeah. That those are. Few that stick out with me. Well, that's just weird. Since we don't have a music show here. Or do we. Become they. Really mean as what we as well we talk about man all the time. Yeah. Yeah. But changing the subject just a little bit. Easter's coming up. What do you do on Easter? Do you do anything special? Anything special on Easter? Oh. My instincts say, Well, not really, and probably not. But, you. Know, we just. We'll go go to church. You for Easter and then. Meet at my parents house for. You know. Easter, you know, dinner right after church, usually. Like ham and, you know, mashed potatoes. And all that stuff. And deviled eggs and. Ham. And my kids, most of them are older. My youngest one's ten and. So then we have a few cousins that have kids. So we'll do a little bit of Easter egg. Hunt there at mom, Dad's house. And then and that'd be that'd be it. I do have one personal Easter tradition. Um, you know. As, you know, kids being a guy from the South, you know, you. Eat. And then you have leftovers. And then so. You just kind of leave the food out all day. And you just kind of pick, you know. Throughout the day. So, you know, after dinner and then after the. The, oh. Easter egg hunt, I have a tradition. I'll go because we always have those Hawaiian king's rolls of sweet little, sweet bread. And I'll go get one of those and I'll go get a piece of ham. And then I'll go get a deviled egg and make a sandwich. Hmm. So you. And I call it my Easter basket. Sandwich. So that's my. Personal Easter tradition. Yeah. And a lot of people look every year, people look at me sideways. I'm like, Don't knock it to dry. Yeah. You know, because Holly always makes the deviled eggs and she makes a hello, Pino Bacon, deviled eggs, you know. All those. And you with that. So those sound good? Yeah, they are good. They were very good then. And so I always so I always make that little sandwich and just. Usually, sometimes I'll make two. As they're small. And then yeah. Maybe if you get a chance they'll make your Easter baskets anyway. Just okay. I will, I will do that. We're actually going some friends that we've made up here in Jamestown, they invited us over for Easter this year. And so we're going over there and we're supposed to bring something. But the only thing is that it's kind of challenging because one is one of the kids that's going to be there has a peanut and mayonnaise allergy. Oh, mercy. So We're we're having to come up with something that we can take. I don't know what that would be. I mean, you know, it's pretty tough because either peanuts or mayonnaise is in a lot of a lot of dishes. Yeah. Not necessarily peanuts, but mayonnaise is. So. Yeah, yeah, it's it's like. Uh. Huh, yeah. Trying to give you ideas, but. It's tough. Man. Yeah. So to do deviled eggs. Yeah. I mean, so maybe a dessert, but I'm thinking. Well. A couple of years ago, I did a ham, a double smoked raspberry chipotle ham, like a spiral cut ham, smoked it on the grill, and you make up a sauce that you put on, you know, kind of coated the last couple hours. But every 30 minutes, you go out, you know, slather another another layer on there. So that was pretty good. But I don't know, made up doing something like that. I don't know. Yeah. Yeah, I get it. Well, I guess it's might be splitting hairs, but I wonder if Miracle. Whip is okay. I don't know. I know. I wouldn't risk it. You know. Do what. I said. I wouldn't risk. It. You might ask, but. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want it. I don't know. What you would do with Miracle Whip, you know, because I get the one for one substitute for. Mayonnaise. Yeah. Yeah, I don't know. Probably not. Probably can't use it either. You know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, that, that's tough. But yeah, so, so we're, we're going over. There. We're going to stay in Jamestown this year for Easter. And, um. Go to church at morning and just hang out, you know? Yeah, it'll be fun. Oh, man. I guess we better get okay. All right. Yeah. Well. I just want to thank everybody for hopping on and listening to on the porch with Ken and myself. Uh, second episode, if you get stuck around this long, be great. If you did go and write a review of the podcast on Apple Podcasts or wherever you, you know, listen to your podcast, that if they allow that. Oh. Oh to I haven't talked to kin about this, but uh, if you leave a review. And. 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