Todd and Ken talk about baked beans, their lack of mechanic skills, famous people from Missouri, Bob Dylan’s singing voice and more!
Apple Pie Baked Beans
For Cherry Pie Baked Beans, use the same recipe as above. Just substitute cherry pie filling for the apple pie filling and add chili powder, red pepper flakes and cinnamon to taste.
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Todd and Ken talk about baked beans, their lack of mechanic skills, famous people from Missouri, Bob Dylan’s singing voice and more!
Apple Pie Baked Beans
For Cherry Pie Baked Beans, use the same recipe as above. Just substitute cherry pie filling for the apple pie filling and add chili powder, red pepper flakes and cinnamon to taste.
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Hey. Hey, Ken. Here we are back at it on the porch. How are you doing, my friend? I'm doing great, buddy. Just another day up on the Cumberland Plateau over here. Oh, yeah. We want to thank each and every one of you guys out there for tuning in to on the porch with us and really appreciate it. Ken, I did notice one thing as kind of perusing through our stats, there's someone up in Winnipeg, Canada, listening, and if that's you send us a message, I'd like know who who it is up there in Winnipeg checking us out. And I'd be great to hear from you. Yeah, it would be, man, would we even send you brand new hot off the press on the porch stickers? Yeah. They look great. They're. They're exact. They're brown stickers of our logo, and they look fantastic. So, yeah, reach out to us and send us email. Join us on the porch at gmail.com. But, Ken, I tried something new today. What was it? Well. Well, I don't know if. I should ask that question. Maybe, but go ahead. What are you trying to. Well. Remember here some time back and I'll link. This. YouTube short and the description you sent me, that video of the guy that makes the apple pie baked beans. Oh, they're. Fabulous. I tried those and they're fabulous, but you already knew that. But today I modified that recipe and made cherry pie. Baked beans. What? No way. Yeah. Yeah, I started off. I just took the apple pie baked beans recipe and just took the can of apple pie filling and replaced it with the cherry pie filling and, of course, measured nothing. It's all to taste, you know. And so I like a little spoon there that I like you in right off the bat. The cherry pie baked beans were much sweeter. Um, I think it's because that gelatin jelly stuff that you put the cherries in for the pie is sweeter than the stuff they put the apples in. Hmm. So. And I just didn't want sweet with talking about sweet chili last week. I didn't want sweet beans, so I had to figure out how to cut that sweet out. So I started off with a little chili. Well, a lot of chili powder and not a lot, but I supposed to be making a little batch, but somehow it filled up the whole nine by 13 pan. You know, I was just thinking that I make, like, a little nine by nine, you know, pan or something that a a and throw some chili powder in there and then some red pepper flakes. And that got it close, but it wasn't quite right. And then I remembered that was a apple pie filling cans have cinnamon in them for the apple pie. Mm hmm. So I took some cinnamon and sprinkled in there, start it up, and it in. And when I took my taste test, it was fine, you know? It was good. It was fine. I just didn't think it was going to be as good as the apple pie, baked beans. But once I stuck it in the oven at 375 for about an hour, that's about all I had, you know, before you had it hidden. Mom and dad, you know, I was just kind of like, well, it's probably going to be okay. So time we sit down and eat and, you know, by the time the beans cooked and everything marinated together and blended together and all that stuff, do I think they're better than the apple pie? Baked beans, really? I think the cherries fit the beans better than the apples. Do you. Know what? They were a big hit and everybody raved about the apple pie. Everybody loved these more. Really? Yeah. It was. Two of those are true. Yeah. You have to give them a try. Just use that apple pie recipe. Use cherries instead, and then keep the chili powder, red pepper flakes and cinnamon handy to kind of take some of that sweet out. So did you put a sausage in them? Like we did with the. Yeah. Yeah. I did sausage. And here's one thing I would, I would do next. And I think we were really sent it over the edge is add like bacon bits to it, like the real bacon bits and fry your own bacon and drop it. Yeah. With the sausage I think, I think it just needs a little touch more savory in it and that would just send them to the moon. Yeah. You know, know. Or maybe you could, you know, lay the bacon across the top and then, you know, cook them. And then like, the last few minutes, just turn the broiler on and make sure the bacon is all done. Oh, yeah, That's a good idea, too. I've done that before. And just, like, took the scissors and just cut the bacon up in a little, like, one inch squares. You just break them along, you know, all over the top. Yeah. Done that before. That would be a good idea to. So for those interested, I'll put the like I said, I'll put the short for the apple pie, baked beans in the description and then I'll just kind of throw in what I did with the cherry pies. It's, I don't have a lot to go on. It's all to taste. You'll see in the short, you know, it's just kind of all the taste and you just basically throw throw the fridge at it. But it turns out wonderfully, it'd be great for this, you know. Grilling and. Uh, cook out season have something just a little bit different to, to be able to take so. Yeah well that, that video that you're talking about is Malcolm Reed and he was a competition barbecue cooker you know and Yeah. Or griller you know for years and he's got a lot of videos out there so so just about anything he does is good. Yeah well yeah I could tell but just know that I topped his beaten recipe. I think I'm gonna email him and tell him I'll tell him he needs to step it up because Todd Killian of Own the Porch podcast is is a he came in first place in the main competition. Yeah I did the the apple pie bake me. Yeah. Yeah. It's like. Uh. My wife's like, I think you missed your calling. I think you're calling was to invent flavors of baked beans. And that's like, Yeah, I figured that would be my calling. Yeah. Mm. Yeah. It's like my superpower. I can manipulate baked beans in ways that people can't imagine. Okay, You? Yeah. Well, yeah. Are you gonna try any other flavors? Like maybe blueberry pie, baked beans? Um, yeah, I've. I've considered peach. Peach was the next one I was considering, but I don't know if I will, because I think. I think the cherry is where it's just something about the cherries just seems to really blend nicely with the, with the baked beans and, you know, that kind of flavor, which makes sense because I have been seeing past few years like Dr. Pepper baked beans and Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper. Dr. Pepper is kind of a cherry flavored cola as it is. Mm hmm. Even when it's not cherry flavored, it's kind of close, you know? Yeah, sure. So, um, so, you know, the cherries just really fit, but I'll probably get a wild hair before long and maybe try a, you know, a peach or blueberry. I think either one of those would be interesting. Mm hmm. Well, men and, you know, I make homemade cherry ice cream, but I don't use the power feeling. But I made some blueberry some homemade ice cream before you. Of course. I put the, you know, a bunch of, you know, fresh blueberries in there. But I also put a can of that blueberry pie feeling in there. Mm hmm. In. My goodness. You like, you know. It was fantastic. You know, everybody really liked that as well. Yeah, but everybody seems to like my cherry materia homemade cherry ice cream. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I'm. I'm a big cherry fan. As it is. This past fall, me and my mom took a trip. We were up in, uh, Frankenmuth, Michigan, and there's a store up there called the Cherry Republic. It's, I guess it's like a michigan chain stores, and it's all like cherry food products, like chocolate covered dry cherries, dried cherries, all kinds of cherry jams and preserves and cherry sauces and, you know, barbecue sauces with cherry and candy, all this and that. And we went there right before lunch. We were hungry. I never ate so many free samples in my life. It was. So good. I know that. These people know how to do it, you know, because they would have, like me, know that little samples of the dried cherries, you can help yourself too. And then they have like a cracker, and then they have a little jar of like the spiced cherry jam, the spread on the cracker and stuff and oh my goodness, it was all so good. It's just kind of like, you know, I've always liked cherries, you know, and, and always been fond of that flavor, but I just didn't until then, I didn't realize how much I did love them. Um, that, you know, because, you know, like, of pop tarts, I would always Cherry was always my favorite pop tart, you know, when I was a kid and, and always like, you know, good cherry limeade and that kind of thing or the black cherry Kool-Aid growing up. Oh, yeah. And, uh, but yeah, that's kind of been a flavor. That's been like, low key. One of my secret or secret low key one of my favorite flavors of all time. Was hard not to like anything Cherry. I mean, it was. What's not to like about cherries, you know? Yeah. Yeah, yeah, I understand. Because, you know, they're not. They're not as sweet as other, you know, fruits are, but they kind of have a bolder taste to them. Yeah. Well, I know it's is magic in my vanilla ice cream. Yeah, well, I use a regular. Is it. I don't know. I'm not saying this right. Is it Mark Marciano or machine or. Yeah, something like that. Marciano, I think is what we call it. Marciano Happy. Marciano. I use it. You know, a bunch of those and then put in about a cup of the actual juice from those cherries. Oh, yeah. It goes in there to help flavor it. It's really good. Really? Yeah. And you could throw some chocolate chips in here if you want to. Oh, yeah. That's one thing, Cherry. I used to love was the chocolate covered cherries. I used to really eat those a lot. And then one day it was like, I don't like these anymore. You know? It's like. I don't know, I guess like, I guess I reached a certain age or something and it's like it just did not appeal to me at all. Yeah. What are those cold ones though? Cheap ones. It's out there in Christmas. Yeah. Oh, yeah. What is that called. The C c. Oh, I guess. You know. You know the ones I'm talking about though. Yes. But yeah. Once again it's like Cordova. No, not Cordova. I don't even know if that's a real word. To be honest. No, that was. As a word. Is it? But, you know, you know, those trees remind me of my grandparents. A long time ago, Christmas when I was young. They always had those. In this past Christmas, I was at Wal Mart and they had run out. And I also, of course, when I was walking by, I had to grab a box of them and we brought them home when I got to and my wife ate the rest of them. You know. Cordial. Cordial. There you go. This year? Mm hmm. Yeah. But, you know, honestly, about two was enough because they were so dang sweet and, you know, you're like bite them in half and then dig in the cherry and all the filling out. You know, I like that part of it. But yeah, to a max it was enough. And it did more than that. I haven't had one in years and like I said, I used to just be upside down over them. And then it was like one day I don't like them anymore and I was kind of opposite that way with pumpkin pie and pumpkin stuff. I used to not like it at all. Wouldn't touch the stuff for anything. And it was after me and Holly got married like the first year. So, like, woke up like one October morning and it's like I had this, like, craving that I needed pumpkin pie, almost like I was, like, pregnant and had a pregnancy craving. That's like I needed pumpkin pie, you know? It was like I said, I really want some pumpkin pie really bad. She's like, you know, I get them. Like, I know, but I really want something really bad. And of course, my wife being so kind as when I was at work, she made a pumpkin pie and I go home and I'm like, I want this pie so bad, but I don't like it. So I'm just going to, you know, I'll eat a piece, but, you know, we'll see what happens. And dude, I've been a pumpkin pie, pumpkin spice eating machine ever since. You know? So. Yeah, well, I started making pumpkin pies, homemade pumpkin pies, you know, by the, you know, the little small pumpkins and cutting them in half and baking them and then. You know. Using those for the pumpkin pies and everything. So I started doing that. I can't hardly either store bought pumpkin pie because when you make them with with real pumpkin it has a texture in there, you know, And it's not just like not just a goo. I don't know. What you got. Yeah, it's not just like I understand. It's not like a cream filling. It's a, you know, has texture. And I really like that. And they're not quite as sweet whenever you make them with fresh pumpkin pie. Yeah. My grandma Killian, she made what everybody tells me was the best pumpkin pie ever. And I remember eating some of it, but as a kid, and I wasn't a fan of pumpkin pie, but my dad and everybody just swears it's the best pumpkin pie ever. Well, she took the recipe with her when she passed. And all we have is a list of the ingredients used. You know? Yeah. And that's just it. No measurements, no instructions. And she would go to the pumpkin patch every year in southern Illinois to buy the certain kind of pumpkins to use. And and Holly's gotten close. She's taking the list of ingredients and kind of worked them. And she's got pretty close but had quite a hit that hit that market. Yeah. So. Well, maybe she will. You know, she will one day. Yeah. You know, just keep it at what one. You know, speaking of the cans, one thing I found out is Libby's, um, pumpkin pie filling cans in. The only pumpkin pie filling that actually is 100% pumpkins. You talking about? Because Libby's makes two. They make it easy. Pumpkin pie, or you just add I think it's milk and eggs or something. And then the other one, you got to add a lot more ingredients. Yeah, the the the one the classic. We got to add a lot more ingredients there. Yeah. It's the only one that's actual real pumpkin. And then everybody else has like a little pumpkin in it and then a whole bunch of like squashes really either. Yeah. So. Uh, it's because Libby has, like, genetically engineered their own pumpkin so they can grow a bunch of them really fast. Okay, So kind of like rabbits. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think that's what they call it. Rabbit, pumpkins. Rabbit, pumpkin. So, you. Know. But so then there is a difference. Um, we're not sponsored by Louise, but. Hey, Louise, if you want to do us call, we'll answer. It. That's right. But Libby's is the only canned pumpkin pie filling. I'll buy because it's definitely head and shoulders above everybody else's. Yeah. I mean, I remember one year before I started making pumpkin pies from scratch. Uh. Something had happened. I forget what it was. I had a dry summer or something in the pumpkin. You know, the Libby's pumpkin stuff was kind of hard to find. Yeah. So I remember running around like a mad man wrap for Thanksgiving. You know, it just when we Thanksgiving, if we don't have pumpkin per so, yeah, I had to go to three or four stores before I found a couple of cans. Oh, yeah, I've I've done things like that around the holidays, you know, like there's a chocolate covered marshmallow Santa Clauses, you know, that's what Santa Claus would always put those in the stockings for the kids every year. And I remember, like, running around the stores to try to find them and ended up having sell on the snowman. But I was. Bummed out about it. But the kids that notice. Well, I tell you what, if if if we if we don't have a food podcast, we're doing a pretty good job in getting close to it. Anyway. I started to notice that was our fourth episode of starting. I know it's a theme. It's food and animals. And music. And music and that's all right, buddy. It's all right. I mean, there's not much else to talk about. Yeah, no. Because neither one of us want to dive into politics very much because there's enough that everywhere else, you know? So. Yeah, I'm not even watching these days. Yeah, I'm just. J. Yeah, for my own sanity. It's, uh. It just, just, it's got its own place. But yeah, it's, it's like a food, animals. Music, you know. Neither one, neither one of them as much of. A, uh, you know. Grease monkey working on cars or that kind of thing. Too much. So. You know. I could if I had to, but I don't want to. Yeah. Do I? Long as I can pay somebody to do it and do it right the first time. Because if I do, I mean I can do it, but I'm liable to screw it up a couple of times and look after more money. Yeah, longer. Anyways. My oldest boy is really good at it, so I just got him on speed dial. You know? Okay, well, that's good, man. I remember grade. I remember a few years ago, he was I think he was like 15 years old and he was at his mom's one weekend and the alternator went out in our minivan. We had at the time, and I was like, take home. It was it, you know, it's dead in the garage. It's like, I might have to pay somebody like come to this and then pay somebody to, you know, put the alternator in and all this that. And my brother in law was like, well, alternators are easy. He's like, I can do it. And he's pretty good mechanic, you know, he's not doesn't do it for a living. But, you know, he's done a lot of his own car work and stuff. So like, sure. So we go buy a new alternator for it, like at AutoZone or whatever because it was the only place open on Sunday, you know. And Yeah. And so we get into it and we're like we're going to pull out the radiator and the fan and all this stuff to get to the alternator, you know. So we just go to town, pull, pulling all this stuff out, get down to where we get the old alternator out, get it pulled out. If the other one put it in, we're like, This is ridiculous. Like, get everything put back in fire and it works great. You know, we got it done. Took forever, took all day like 4 hours, you know, and had to go through all those steps and, uh, you know, we sitting there talking and things, and then Eli comes home from his mom's, and like I said, he's like 15 at the time. And I was telling him all that, you know, about this dumb alternator. We spend all day doing. And he's like, Why did you do that for? Like. What do you mean? He's like, Just jack it up? And he goes, You pull off the front passenger side tire and then there's this axis there and you pull it. And my brother, we all get look. And he's like, Yeah, he's right. We could have probably had this done in about 45 minutes. So see, that's what I'm talking about, right? They're like. Yeah, they give you a grant. It's a that's good. As you. Like. All their asses have been involved just ripping out the front end of that thing. But you know, to do that next time. Yeah. Yeah. He's, he's really good. Like my oldest daughter. His little sister, uh, she had this old Pontiac Grand Prix. Her very first car she ever bought a hunk of junk, and it broke down on her. And it was something I could tell you what it was. I said, Oh, so little about cars or something, but he's able to find this, like, little ropey twig laying around and tied something up under it and got it running. Yeah. You know, do. Yeah. This is some kind of cotter pin or something. That was. That that. Made something unlinked. So he just, like, tied it up with this, like, little rope ish looking twig thing to get it running pin transmission or something. And it was good enough to get it traded in. You know. No, that's not the way I'd fix anything. My, you know, that's the reason I'm, you know, the way I fix things. If it don't, if it doesn't work, if it doesn't go real smooth real fast, I'm like either more duct tape or a bigger hammer. Yeah. Yeah. That's how I end up fixing it. Yeah. End up breaking it. Do. Yeah. Cozumel. Yeah. Yeah. I called my hammer, the manual adjuster, what I call it. I mean, yeah. I remember one time our dryer went out when I called, you know, I looked at it, looked at it, couldn't figure, you know, figure out what's going on. So I called a repairman and told him what was going on. And he goes, What kind of dryer? And I told him and he goes, Well, he's like, I'll come out there and look at it if you want me to. But, you know, service calls this much money. And then, you know, if we fix it, it's going to be probably this and the parts were going to be that. And he's like, by then he's like, you're like 100 bucks away from a brand new one just like it. So might as well get a brand new. And yeah, that's what I said. 400 bucks. Yeah, I'll get a brand new one. He'd he's like, yeah, he like, he's like, if you want me, come fix it. I will. I'm just like, you know that. You know, you're not that far away from getting a new one. So that's, that's what we ended up having to do. Yeah, well, man, you know, since we're talking about that, let me tell you, you know, I was living in Nashville. There was a old change place, you know, Jiffy Lube or whatever, on every corner, just about. Uh. So for years I've just put in there, let them change the oil and my vehicle. But then we moved up here in Jamestown, and there's there's two little old change places in town. And one of them, I mean, know the name of one of them, but the one I chose, I went in there the other day and appeared like, you know, men up here, they do everything, you know, they can. They can build a house, they can do plumbing, electrical work, like, you know, auto mechanics. They can work on tractors. They do everything in. I think the old change place is for women. I don't mean that bad. But I think, you know, once I pulled in there and I was like, I was the only only the only dude in there, you know, I'm a big F-250. So I pulled in there. I was like, Oh, no, this is like the walk of shame. And I'm pulling in here and see these big burly guys and they're changing over and, you know, and I'm one of the burly guys, but, you know, I'm having somebody change my oil for me. So it was kind of like the walk of shame. They road I like paid them, drove out with my head. And, you. Know, you got a. Kind of shameful, you know, it's like, yeah, man, you should be changing your own. Oh, what's wrong with you? Yeah, but. It's like, you know, now I'm retired, man. You know, any time I can pay somebody to do something like that. Yeah, Yeah, I do. But. Yeah, just tell them you changed oil for a living and you're retired. You ain't doing it no more. Well, they didn't. They didn't say. You think back to, you. Know, you can just to make it all. The same. They did the old change Walk of shame. Yep. But you know, I've done that my whole life. You know, I've changed my roles and everything and, you know, it's just like, okay, I'm done with that. Yes, men are just pull in and I mean, they were I was in and out in 15 minutes, so. Oh, yeah, they had me go by all the stuff and then end up taking an hour or longer to change, you know. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I hear you. I hear you. I, I can do the oil change, but I just. I'm like, You just don't want to because I'm not that good, not that fast. And for the price, just let somebody else to help. You know? Well, man up here and tell you what we do. A lot of times on Friday nights, we go eat catfish at a little place up here called York Country Store. Oh, yeah. And because we talking about food, it crossed my mind. Who was talking about that? Well, I'll go back to your country store, and it's it's down the mountain. And the way they say it, up here is like we're on the mountain. If you go down the mountain, they call it under the mountain. I don't know why, but that's just going down mountain, you see, going under the mountain. So we go under the mountain and there's a little little York country store and they have have food there all the time. But on Friday night, they have catfish and it draws a big crowd, I guess a big crowd for here. You know, probably not for most places, but that's pretty cool. And, you know, just a just a fun thing to do is very homey in there. They have a karaoke some time in there or sometime they're small guys play the piano. They have a piano in there. But we went did that Friday night and then we left there and went over to about 25 minutes away from there. It's a little town called Byrd's Town, Tennessee, and went over there and it's called the Dixie Cafe. And there's a meat and three, but we'd already eaten. But we go over there and listen to bluegrass music, so it's pretty cool. WILSON Small town and everybody sit around drinking coffee and eating and is one of our favorite things to do. My son actually played there when he was like, Oh, man, I don't know. I guess he was probably 12, 11 or 12 years old, played the fiddle. Oh, well, with the Bluegrass band there and, you know, back then they never thought I'd be back there again in living up that way. But yeah, things change, you know? Yeah, yeah. The bird sounds a pretty cool little town if anybody wants to look it up, man, they got a you got a really clean little town, and there's an old gas station there that they, they turn into, like a museum, you know, fixed it up just like it was back in the day. And everything's clean painted and they got the gas pumps and it's pretty cool. It's really it's cool. That's cool. Yeah. That's a great thing about small towns. You know, they always have like a couple of really cool things, you know, that you just can't find anywhere else for whatever reason. And what's sad is, like, I live in a small town and it's sometimes it's hard for me to like, think of those things. But I think our town started this new had this new thing over the weekend that I, I don't know if I've ever heard it before. I'm sure someone's over. I'm sure someone's done it before, but not around where we live. It's completely new. I mean, you know how they'll have, like a car show or truck rally or, you know, like a motorcycle rally where, you know, people just come and park their, you know, awesome vehicles and show them off. Or this this past Saturday, they did a food truck rally and they invited all these food trucks from all over the place to come and set up in this big parking lot in the middle of town. And then everybody, you know, came out the, you know, eat off all the food trucks and stuff. It was diamond in the it looked like it drew a pretty good crowd and everybody was having a good time. And and the totem pole, the couple it's one thing about living in small town, you know, people that are like, you know, mayor and city councilman and stuff like that. And it's like, yeah, I think they're going to plan to do it like once a month through the summer, you know, and then kind of make it a traditional kind of thing. And I mean, it was really fun. I can see it really growing into something. Yeah. Oh, wait, Everything goes back to food and it it does. It does. I was trying to think of something special about my town, and this first thing that came to mind was just that there's just not a lot you to talk about. Yeah. Well, that's kind of the way it is here. You know, most of the the the big draw to this area up here is outdoor stuff like, you know, hiking. There's a lot of hiking up here. Yeah. A lot of people move up here that are horse people cause there's really good trail riding up here in the hills. Yeah, there's not a lot of restaurants up here. We even have. We have a and it's not even every month, man. They just posted on Facebook when they're going to show up, but it's a little it's a truck that pulls a trailer, has a freezers and refrigerators in the back of this trailer. But they have seafood, right. And it is fresh. I'll give them that man. Yeah, they get it from the Gulf Coast and, you know, they deliver up in Kentucky in restaurants and stuff. And they'll come by Jamestown and they'll stop out in the parking lot of the liquor store. Yeah, Yeah. They're there for an hour. And either you're either there during that hour, you miss it, you know, till next hour. Yeah, well, unfortunately, our biggest claim to fame around this area is, uh, we were the place that a lot of Chicago Mafia people ran the height of. I know for. Me. So, uh. Yeah, Yeah, it was, um, Southern Illinois and parts of southeast Missouri. It was just like a hiding spot for a lot of people from the Chicago Mafia and people that had ties to the Mafia just to hide from the cops, from. You know. Lotta lotta ties to the Chicago Mafia in this area. You know, we've even had, like, car bombs and stuff like that. And. And, uh, you know. Just crazy stuff like that. It's stuff you wouldn't think would be around here that's actually is kind of woven into the communities and things. It's just. It's nuts. Yeah. What about the most crazy thing like that in our little town? There's a mark Twain in and there's Mark Twain. It's either Lane or Avenue. I think it's avenue up here. And like, what is Mark Twain? That's new Jamestown. And I got to check it out. And it's where he was conceived in that little hotel. So they just. Took it and ran with it. The Mark Twain Inn, you know, kind of like a little draw downtown, you know? Yeah. Yeah. I remember being in we had Santa Claus in the end of the holiday world and they, like, had. A. Lincoln's home childhood home there. And I'm thinking, I thought he was from Illinois. And I. The end. Him barely. I guess he was born in Kentucky and then living in Indiana for a few years. And then he went to Illinois or something. Never was. But we have a a river. Wall. That keeps the Mississippi from flooding the downtown. They're in flood season and there's a mural on there with, like all the famous Missouri and Missourians on it. Both of them. I mean, it's a stretch. It's a stretch. You know, like. It's like if they spent like 30 minutes here. You kind of like Mark Twain. Yeah. Yeah, we do claim him. He's a legit Missouri guy. But. You know. It's like. You know. With like, you know, Walt Disney, you know, was born up. I guess he was born up in Kansas City area, but he wasn't there for, like very long, like, you know, claim him and Bob, Bob Barker and I want to say Walter Cronkite, but I don't know if that's right. I can't remember. Of course, Rush Limbaugh is on there. He's actually from that, you know, town I live close to and show Sheryl Crow's on there. She was born, uh, about, you know, an hour, 15 minute drive from my house. So, you know, that's where she was, like, born and raised, like, legit, you know? So there's a few, but there's John Goodman, the Saint Louis guy, you know? So, I mean. He's a great actor, man. Yeah. Yeah. I always like John Goodman work. No matter what he's in. He's no matter what John Goodman's in. He's like the always the best, if not one of the best actors in that, you know? O brother, Where Art thou? Do you ever see that movie? Yes. Go ahead. See, I've got to watch that again. Yeah. It's been years since I've seen it, but it it's still one that gets quoted quite often. Yeah. Yeah. He's bona fide. The best thing he ever did for them. Little girls get hit by that train. Yeah, we thought he was a frog. No, a toad. We thought you were down. Yeah, yeah, yeah. As you can see, I'm a man of large appetites. Yeah. Yeah, that's. That's an all time great. Or it was me. What was some other. Yeah. Quotes in there. I can't remember now, but it was, it was full of quotable lines. You know. There's a few lines. I'm not sure if they're quite right. It's like you like when the guy's playing that song, he's like, know, you really did sell your soul to the devil. Yeah, yeah, yeah. The man's based on, like, Homer's Odyssey or something like that. Is it? Yeah, it's it's, it's. It's something close to that. It's, you know, not. Oh, there's a lot of parallels, too. Like, I think it's Homer's Odyssey, you know, brother were out there, so I've never looked into it to see what was water or anything, but others take the word for it. And, you know, it's it's it's great on its own and in the thinking that deep. Well, you know, that song that was so popular, man A cast of sorrow. Yeah. There was another one that was so popular and yeah, it was it was a big hit after that movie. Yeah, well, that was that was Dan Tyminski. They actually saying that and he, uh, he plays in the Who go, What's your name? Can't remember now. I think. Anyway, Dan then ended up with his own band and we got to see him play that song at the station in Memory where I was ten, and we saw Chris Stapleton. Yeah. Well, we saw Dan's and Minsky there too. Well. I think that's a little small venue. Alison Krauss Alison Krauss has the most incredible band ever. And then Tyminski would you know, he would harmonize and sing and plays mandolin, guitar. He plays everything. I think. Think he was a great mandolin player in our band. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He was. He was fantastic, you know, on that song and I looked on some of the other stuff just from, you know, that that album or not that album, but that movie. And it's also. You know. Just really, really good stuff and, and just, you know, sometimes you just wonder why just certain people just don't, you know, latch on, you know? But I guess bluegrass just isn't as you know. You know. Appreciated as maybe it should be for its musicianship. Maybe it's a little bit too, you know, geographically bound. I want to I saw a YouTube video the other day on like the top ten songs on Spotify around the world. Those songs that are get the most plays. Mm hmm. And it's a it's a YouTube channel. Rick Beato, who's a music guy, you know, producer and teacher, you know, music teacher and stuff. And and he's done some like real, like legit music producing with, with people that you'd recognize and stuff. And he's not Mr.. Old. Back in my day music guy you know he he's very open minded I've always said that my goal one of my goals in life is not to be the guy that thinks that good music that being made the year I graduated high school. You know. Yeah. He you know. And I feel that you know Rick Beato was like is you know strives to be that too. And he goes through the top ten and of course it's the world top ten. So that puts a little different spin on it. But there was like two songs on there that he says sounds like songs because a lot of them were like just a drum machine beat on repeat and then like barely any melody lines at all. And he was just like, Oh my goodness, this is just not that great of you. Year the top ten. And of course, the number one song, which was the best song by far of them all was Flowers by, Miley Cyrus, you know, and and it it's just it's just wild. Just, just wild to hear. But again, you know, that's the world. I wish he would do that like the US top ten just to see the difference, you know? Right. Because you know, there's a lot of. Uh, you know. Other countries that just really enjoy the, that kind of rhythmically, you know, over Auto-Tune voice thing. That seems to be the craze. Yeah. I mean, Miley Cyrus can sing, dude. I mean, she's gotten better the older she's gotten. Yeah, she has. She's, um. I told my wife the other day we said something about it because, you know, he's listening to her. He's like, Man, she can really just flat sing really great. And then my is like, Yeah, she was, she went crazy there for a while. And so I think she just had a burst. That Hannah Montana image she, she like went too far to like break the Hannah Montana image and she kind of, you know, shrug that off, came back down. But I know being a child star and and things has its own problems that I'll never understand, you know and but she seems to, you know, kind of age to do that to you, help you get a grip on things a little bit better. Yeah, she's milled out a little bit, but she can sing me. I mean, she can really sing. Yeah. Yeah. She may be one of the best ones out there. Really? I think right now. Yeah, she can because she can really saying but she, you know, she really puts a lot of that feel and emotion into it as well. Um, you know, I don't know if she can get up there and sing like all the notes, like Mariah Carey could sing all the notes. Mm hmm. You know, Mariah Carey's probably not a good example because she can put a lot of the feel and the storytelling inflection in it as well. But, you know, 99% of singing is more of your inflection, your emotion, your emotion than how you're telling the story more than it is being able to get all the notes. I mean. Exactly. Yeah. Bob Dylan's a perfect example that I'm sure he can flat sing if he want to do you know. Who Bob. Dylan? Yeah. I don't know, man. He was. I know he was the dude this time, but, yeah, you know, I have a hard time listening to more than one or two songs. He's. I know. It's. Yeah, that's the thing I wish. I wish I could. I wish I could hear him just trying to, like, sing for real. Not for real. But I don't know. It's just, you know, he's not known for his singing. But for some reason, you know, he's so good that Tom Petty, the Heartbreakers, became his touring band for ever. You know? And so it just it just doesn't show that, you know, you just have to be the best singer singer to have an impact. Well, I mean, the song that put the Old Crow Medicine Show, have you ever heard of them? Oh, yeah. Yeah. Wagon, Wheel. Wagon, Wheel. You know, that was a that was that was one of his songs. And it wasn't finished in Kid Sick or the the lead singer they had Gav Oh Crow Medicine Show found it and he finished writing and it became just a mega-hit And now. You know. Darius Rucker's redone it and it's popular you know Darius Rucker. And. But yeah, he was a great songwriter. But man, I tell you who you're talking about, sing about somebody being good that don't don't hit every note and all that kind of stuff. But sings with feel is a Oh, dude. But Jackson Browne Yeah right. Yeah. You know he had the his probably his most popular mainstream song was running on empty back in the day. But I was just looking on my phone here and I tried to find it on vinyl and I couldn't find it anywhere, so maybe it never came out. I don't. Know. Yeah, but Jackson Browne, a solo acoustic volume, one that came out in 2005, and then in 2008, he came out with solo acoustic volume two, and it's just him playing in front of a crowd with acoustic guitar. And it is so good. The, you know, I mean, if you want to if you want to play something, it's it's just relaxing and meaningful. And his voice is good and it's just it's just good. Listen to it's good. Listen, mute those two right there. I mean, I've got them on my phone. You can get them, you know, digital, but I'm still looking for a vinyl. Anybody out there knows where I can find the vinyl. Copy of those. Please let us know, because I'd love to have you. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be fantastic. Yeah. One of my favorite. Like, maybe like my first, like, fave all time favorite band, you know that I remember that. Just latching onto them as, like, my favorite band was Huey Lewis and The News. And then I remember seeing a documentary on them a few years back and and they were telling the story about when they were trying to make it. And they had this guy from Somalia and our guy from some record and he's like, You guys are going to be great, but you're going to have to replace your lead singer because he's just not good enough as a singer to get you guys over the top, you know? And they became like the the pop one of the pop bands of the eighties, you know, And they're not really a pop band. They're just a blues band, you know. But but they had some of the biggest hits in the mid eighties and stuff and somebody was like, Yeah, he's not a good enough singer to get you guys over the hump. And yeah. Well man, he his favorite power for the holidays now I'm just kidding. I love like Huey Lewis Back. To the food. Somehow. Huey Lewis food truck. Yeah. No, I don't know anything about that. Him kind of like Huey Lewis. My son played in the band when he was real young. They opened for Eddie Money. Remember him? Uh huh. Eddie Money. And yeah, man, I forgot how many hits that guy had. Yeah. And first time out, you know, of course, I went to see my son's band play and got to see Huey Lewis. I mean, Eddie Money. And he would just hit after hit after hit. I'm like, Oh, my gosh, I forgot about that. Huh? Yeah, That's another one of those old guys that could really And he wasn't the best singer, but his songs were just incredible for sing alongs. Just a great sing alongs, you know? Yeah, Yeah. They're just kind of the ones that just they're always around, you know? It's it's kind of like they're just the songs that they're always around. Uh, I kind of feel that way, you know, sometimes about, like, John Mellencamp. It's like his songs are just always around the whole time, you know? He was good back in the day when he really was. Yeah. I mean, I don't have anything against the. Little pink houses. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That one. That one. That name too. Song. Yeah. I believe it was Little Pink House. And then, then, uh, I think there was that on the same album was like Jack and Diane and. Oh, what's another one. I can't even think of it now. It was on my turn. Yeah. Yeah, he was good. Yeah. Yeah. Well, problem with him is he. But, but the, the label wanted, they didn't want him to go by John Mellencamp like they wanted him to be like John Cougar. Mm. You know, they went in basically the, the album hired him to be like the next Neil Diamond. Mm hmm. You know, so they said, Well, go by John Cougar, he or, you know, and they never got a hit and are kind of fledgling and stuff And then, then they, you know, then he's able to swing it in and they're like, Well, we can't just call you John Mellencamp. No, I know who you are then. So he went by John Cougar Mellencamp, you know, And then finally, when he had big success, he, like, dropped the cougar part. This is like, this is my real name. You know, Hurt so good was the name I was trying to think of. Yeah, So hurt so good. Yeah. Well, I mean, John Mellencamp, I saw a special on him one time, and he's an incredible artist. Like painter. Yeah. I mean, like, I couldn't believe how good he was. Like, Yeah, he can just do that, you know, Not even seen. Yeah, he, I, I thought that he was big in that to be stereotypical. But sometimes, you know, artists can be real particular and the things they like. And I know, you know, recording albums and stuff he had, he had the things he wanted to do and was kind of not, uh, willing to compromise or waver or anything. You know, he's real stringent. Those which made me think he really had the artist type mentality. But when you're right, you're right. You know, So. So but yeah, it's a it's a it's just it's just crazy. That, you know. He had to fight so hard to even get those songs done. And, you know, I was play, in fact, um, Jack and I and he thought was just a terrible song and no one would like it, you know? And he put it on the album. Who he didn't. John was around, didn't like it. Yeah, John didn't like it. You know I guess stills biggest most played song. Mm. You know, till the day but you know he just had this, there's a, there's this um, trait that good music has that's, it's, it's hard to explain, but to me it's like when you hear the song, it's the first time you heard the song, but you feel like you've known it forever. MM. You know, that's when you know you have something, you know. John Cougar Mellencamp John Mellencamp songs are they've been around forever, so it's hard to say that, but they just have a timeless listen to them, you know? And yeah, they just feel like they, you know, they just belong. They're just woven in. You know, to. The background of our lives. And, you know. Some people can't, you know, there's certain bands that I don't listen to anymore, not because they're not good. It's just like all my listening to them is done. You know? So. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I mean, we're talking about the from back in that era kind of artist. I mean, the master of disguise is Steve Earle, you know, Steve Earle singing Copperhead Road and. I care the rest. I know Copperhead Road. You know, that was him. And he he had a lot of hits, but many you would see him. And then he was I mean, he was bad into drugs, so he would disappear for a couple of years. He would come back 40, £40 heavier and a big beard and long. And then he'd go away for a couple of years and come back and he would weigh like 100 and, I don't know, £50 and skinny and no hair. And every time you see him, he would look different. It's like, you know, this guy could rob a bank and nobody could tell who he was, because I remember seeing him a couple of times. I'm like, oh, my gosh, is that Steve Earle? You know, he would look so different. You know, he was just going through different phases in his life. But yeah, but he was really good. I used to like this buddy thing he did. Steve Earle did a it was uncharacteristic, I guess, of him, but he did a bluegrass album one time with Del McCoury Band. It is awesome, man. I mean, it's just it's just wide open bluegrass. And you never would think that that he would sing bluegrass, but he did really good. Yeah. So. Oh, well. Yeah. If you look at Steve Earle, just look at the different pictures of him over the years. Sometime he's unrecognizable as the same person. Well, I get like that sometimes. I'll see somebody on TV and I'm thinking, Man, they're getting old. And then I look at all my gray in my beard and it's like, maybe I am too bright. And I was like, Maybe, man, I'm unrecognizable before I have my coffee. And after having my coffee, you know, was like, Wake up. My beard's up. Around. Eyeballs and my hair stands straight up and. Yeah. You know, have a couple of cups of coffee and brush my beard out and yeah, a little beard oil on there and get straightened up like, oh, there he is. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, I got to, I got to wash my face and get the all the CPAP scars off my face. Yeah. The beard mustache come down and then the get, get a little color back in the face before before I see you know, I'm not a coffee drinker. But. I like to grab a there's an energy drink called ringing that a brand that I really like. So I'll grab one of those in the morning and sip on that my coffee never took to the coffee. My dad is a master. Well, the whole Korean side of the family is a master coffee drinking machine, and I just never took to it. I just. I tried, but it just. I love the smell. I love the smell of it, But the drink, it is. It's just not for me. Just not, you know. Well, how about. How does he drink coffee? Yeah, she'll drink. Should drink it. She's a little cream in it, you know, It's like my dad. Just straight white coffee and. But yeah, she'll drink it in the mornings and stuff, so. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. I'm. I'm old school. I mean, I'll. I'll drink the sweeter drinks from time, but mostly it's just black, just black coffee and, you know, the, the kind of cup like the Waffle House has, you know, they're not as big, but they're real thick and sturdy. And because that size, you have time to drink it before it cools down. Me If I get a normal sized coffee cup, a lot of times it's cooled down so much, it's not really good because coffee, I like it hot. Yeah. And those smaller ones, they're thicker and that keeps it hot longer, but it's just not as much there. So that's what I like to drink it out of. Yeah. Yeah. Fact Oh, a few years ago when we went to the beach with a big family vacation, my mom and dad, you know, my family went and my four kids and my sister and her two girls went. So there's 11 of us in one house. And of course, they had dishes and stuff there. They had a coffee cup in there. And that used that coffee cup all all week. And you're like, This is the greatest coffee cup ever because of the way it was shaped and the lips and all that stuff. And so I messaged the, the property manager here. I'm like, if we buy a coffee cup, can we take this one and replace it with. They're like, sure. Yeah, what's here? All right. So the pictures I so this is the one we're taking and this is the one we're put back. We were the Walmart was bought it, you know not a cheap cheapest one look fine but just regular coffee, you know. Mm. And so these I think almost every day. Yeah. And I don't know what it is, but he just loves that coffee cup. Everybody has their favorite ones. I don't know. I'm drinking out of one right now. This is a Christmas Clutter podcast. Yeah, well, yeah, that's a good. Podcast from what I hear. Yeah. Girl in. Their. Thirties. Hard to deal with. Yeah. Uh, for those, for those that don't know, this isn't canning my first podcast. I started Christmas Clatter Christmas themed podcast 29th May 2019, and then Kid came along and started a Faces to Places podcast about a year after Christmas Clatter started and he goes around, there's human interest stories. And then he started, uh, working for Santa Claus at the North Pole doing their news radio show, North Pole News Dispatch. So. MM Yeah. So he does a Christmas one as well. So that's why we bring up Christmas a lot if you've kind of wondered. But, um, but on the porch, is this our chance to get together and talk and things? But yeah. Yep. This is the way it always is with us. We just. Yeah. No matter when it is or if it's two times a week or four times a week or whatever. We just, we, we never have any trouble finding something to talk about. That's right. Yeah. That's right. And I'll be heading your way here in a in a couple of weeks too. And we're going to do an episode Why We're live and they're together and our wives will be joining us for that. So that's going to be fun. Yeah. Mary's, you know, my wife is married. She. Yeah, she's excited about it. Yeah. I don't know if I told Holly yet or not. I was about to tell. Her the night. Well, she she's not going to have a choice now. That married. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah. She'll be. She'll be good. But. But what we'll do is sitting out on our porch, out back, we have a big covered deck out there. It looks out over the lake, and we go eight foot long. Uh. I think it's maple table. And we'll sit out there and, you know, hopefully the geese fly by and there's a lot of geese up here. Add to the ambiance, you know? Hope that happens. Yeah, hopefully they will, and that'd be cool. But we have a golf force that there. We'll probably just get our dogs barking instead of the geese. You know. As we always go with the, you know, the four of us that just sit out there and uh, we'll see what happens. But kin, I guess it's about time for us to get well. 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