Live Free - Die Last

American Influence in Ukraine: History, Ethics, and Consequences

Live Free - Die Last Season 2 Episode 11

Is the U.S. media hiding the truth about Ukraine? Join us as Patrick Warren unearths the realities behind President Zelensky's visit to Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania Governor Josh Shapiro's contentious actions. We scrutinize U.S. involvement in Ukraine, dissecting NATO's historical expansion and contrasting the approaches of different administrations, with a spotlight on Barack Obama's policies. From media portrayals to geopolitical motivations, this episode challenges the established narrative and sheds light on the strategic underpinnings of American foreign policy.

As we navigate the labyrinth of global politics, the discussion shifts to the profound consequences of American military intervention. We highlight the tragic state of Ukraine, touching on the dire conditions faced by soldiers and questioning the efficacy of U.S. military strategies. By examining historical precedents and advocating for a non-interventionist stance, we confront the ethical dilemmas and risks associated with foreign entanglements. Patrick Warren and Travis Sunday provide a critical analysis of the long-term impacts of U.S. interference in Russia's 1996 election, the rise of Vladimir Putin, and the current geopolitical landscape.

On the home front, we tackle domestic issues ranging from environmental regulations to political disillusionment within the GOP. Frustrations over double standards, housing policies, and the education system are laid bare. We urge conservatives to become more actively involved in local politics, especially in Harford County, where challenges within the school board and allegations of corruption demand immediate attention. This episode is a rallying cry for patriots dedicated to preserving freedom and integrity in both foreign and domestic spheres.

Speaker 1:

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Speaker 3:

The Lord is getting ready to smite the enemies of freedom?

Speaker 4:

Hello Harford County. I'm John Connor piloting the freedom pod high above harford county. This is a another broadcast from the we, the people studios. We've got some great patriots in the pod tonight in the freedom pod. But before we get to that, remember if you want to send us something, it's we, the people of md Well, that's the website. That's the website. Our email, but you can go there and get to the email and all sorts of links. Go ahead and give them the email.

Speaker 3:

Info at wethepeopleofmdorg.

Speaker 4:

And then there's always the PO Box 13, forest Hill, maryland. That's where we get the juiciest stuff. That's right, just look over your shoulder and make sure you're not being followed. We don't want anybody to know exactly where the Freedom Pod is, but it's all over.

Speaker 2:

Didn't you just, it just?

Speaker 4:

comes and goes. I tell them where it is, but they can't really find us.

Speaker 2:

I thought you had like a new stealth feature on the Freedom Pod.

Speaker 4:

We're all over the place, man. If the sheriff had this technology boy, he'd be more dangerous than he is now. Oh, did I say that? Sorry? Anyway, we are missing the Josh. So we're going to try a little different approach tonight. We're going to kind of shotgun things 're uh, just going to throw some topics out there. It may not be as connected together it is as it is sometimes, but I'm sure it's going to be interesting. So let me go around the room here and introduce our patriots.

Speaker 4:

On my right we have patrick warren good evening everybody patrick is a man of many words sometimes and few words at other times, but they're always intelligent words. And then we go to the prolific Travis.

Speaker 3:

Travis Sunday, travis Sunday. I'll try to. I'll try to talk about community, since Josh is.

Speaker 4:

I have the community discussion and the Reverend Sunday the Reverend Sunday. Reverend the Reverend Cleophas james so, as I said earlier, we're going to kind of shotgun things and we're going to start it off with patrick warren. What do you want to talk about tonight, patrick?

Speaker 2:

well, one of the things I'd like to talk about that, I think, is something that is really kind of not talked about enough, and when it is talked about, there's a lot of lies being put forth by the propaganda media and state-controlled media, and Fox News is one of the worst perpetrators of this. But I wanted to talk about the situation in Ukraine, because things are getting really, really, I will say, interesting, but dangerously interesting, because the midget Zelensky is in Washington DC trolling around with trying to present a quote-unquote victory plan, which there's no way that he's going to ever win this war and he's he's just a CIA puppet.

Speaker 4:

Well, yeah, there, I said it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he's a puppet, but while he's being a puppet, he's dissing the puppet master because he's coming to Washington and telling us you're not giving us enough money, you're not giving us enough money, you're not giving us enough money, you're not giving us enough missiles, ammunition and basically treasure from the United States for him to fight a war that he's not going to win. It's really pretty interesting to see, and one of the things that I saw the other day that was just really appalling was he was flown over here at taxpayer expense on a military jet to go to Pennsylvania and basically campaign for Kamala Harris and visit a. He visited a munitions factory.

Speaker 4:

He visited a munitions factory and one of the things that really just appalled me was the governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro, signing an artillery shell.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, the people that were signing that. What a ghoul.

Speaker 4:

We'll stand you guys right out front when the Russian bombs come jerks. The American people are not interested in a war, this whole thing, we're not interested there. There's a very small portion of the American people that have bought into the propaganda, and I think we should. It would be cheaper just to fly them all over there and let them go nuts because we don't want you here. We're not interested in war with russia or china or anyone else.

Speaker 2:

We want to live well, there's no vital interest of the united states in ukraine except to use it as a platform for nuclear missiles to be aimed at russia and also, to you know, defend the interests of black rock state street and vanguard in their uh looting and the end of the ukraine the biden crime family right.

Speaker 3:

So what you really?

Speaker 4:

have biden grift is the globalists have taken over the federal government. So that's why they hate donald trump so much, because they're afraid that he's trying to rip power back from the globalists. So we do have some, you know, congressmen and senators and states that aren't buying into the globalist bs, but in general there's a good deal of the united states that's kind of been taken over already by this group.

Speaker 3:

I mean, that's, that's the way I see this thing what happened to the, the cindy sheehan's that were around when Bush was president? Where are the anti-war Democrats? Yeah, they all disappeared when.

Speaker 4:

Obama got elected. Yeah, I don't think they're gone. I think I think the propaganda machine has made you think that they're gone. I think the people are still out there.

Speaker 2:

As much as I hate to say this, to give Obama credit, he was not going to give the Ukrainians any, any weapons. He didn't do it. And he wasn't going to do it for obvious reasons. The former ambassador to Russia, michael McFaul, who's also a CIA spook, said that Ukraine was like the red line for the Russians. It's like he said he sent a cable to Washington DC and said nyet means nyet. It's like he said he sent a cable to washington dc that said yet means yet. It's like don't do this. And the united states has been involved in trying to destabilize russia, and trying this is. I'm not. None of this is my opinion.

Speaker 2:

This is all fact right you know this is stuff that's not been put out there, that people don't know, and I'm you know. People across the fruited plain in Hartford County need to set aside their normalcy, bias and just you can go and look up anything that I'm telling you right now, because it's it's 100% fact. We participated in a series of Orange Revolution in 2005 that was CIA-oriented. In 2014, they bragged about the fact Victoria Nuland bra coup against the elected president of Ukraine, who was ethnic Russian and who got chased out of Ukraine. The guy had to run for his life and they put in. We organized an election and we installed this guy Poroshenko. He ran this for eight years or for four years, and when that Nazi regime came in, the ethnic Russians in the Eastern part of the Ukraine refused to recognize that government because yeah, that's how this because they were saying that they did.

Speaker 2:

They considered the Russians, ethnic Russians, the enemy. They tried to stamp out the use of the Russian language. They were against the Orthodox Church and you're hearing all this stuff about how we're fighting for democracy in Ukraine and liberty and democracy. That is the biggest load of horseshit that I've ever heard out there.

Speaker 4:

It's not true.

Speaker 2:

Zelensky is arresting his political opponents. He has closed down the Orthodox Church, he has arrested priests, he has closed newspapers, doing a lot of the same things that we're doing here actually.

Speaker 4:

Biden crime, families laundering money through them. I mean, that's what's going on going. But listen, I have some insight as to why people are going to want to hear this. Why barack obama barry, bathhouse barry why he didn't do anything to the russians, and I'm going to tell you. Do you remember the picture of putin, shirtless on the back of the horse? Remember when that made the news and made it? So I have this theory. I'm pretty sure bathhouse Barry had that poster behind his door, kind of like when we were kids and you had, like, daisy Duke behind the door. Bathhouse Barry probably had Putin on the horse and he looked at it like with those Marsha Brady eyes, just like, oh my, so yeah, he doesn't. He don't't want to, he don't want to tangle with putin.

Speaker 2:

he was, he was simultaneously afraid and turned on at the same time but you know, in all seriousness, you know, putin, up until you know the february of 2022 had really exhibited, you know, a tremendous amount of restraint. I mean much more restraint than the United States would ever shown in similar circumstances. He was actually you can look this up at the 2007 Munich Security Conference. He was calling for, and wanted to have, security guarantees for all of Europe, including Russia, and this was in response to the continual eastern expansion of NATO towards Russia. So, after the Soviet Union fell, it was one thing after another.

Speaker 2:

When Germany was reunified back in 1989, james Baker, who was the Secretary of State at the time, told Gorbachev that, in exchange for the reunification of Germany and the withdrawal of Russian troops from East Germany, that NATO would not expand one inch to the east. Well, as soon as Bill Clinton became president, they started adding Poland, czechoslovakia, all the former Warsaw Pact satellites that the Russians had used as a buffer. Because, if you know anything about Russian history, russia has been invaded many times over the centuries and they've come primarily through Ukraine, napoleon, the Germans. So you know they're rightly very paranoid, you know, about their security. And he wanted security guarantees and we basically told him to take a hike. We're not listening to you. We got nothing. We got nothing to talk about. So what we're seeing here is the steady march of the united states across eastern europe, threatening I'd call it the un.

Speaker 2:

It's not the united states anymore well, the the Russians are seeing NATO troops encroaching closer and closer and closer to their borders and Putin is not going to allow Ukraine to be a platform for nuclear missiles aimed at Moscow. We put missiles in Romania, we put missiles excuse me in Poland. They're just not going to allow that to happen. And with this most recent thing, with Zelensky wanting these long range missiles to attack deep inside Russia, you know Putin has announced a revision.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that sounds like a really bad idea.

Speaker 2:

Well, he's announced a revision of their nuclear doctrine and he said, if any, because we've already the Ukrainians are not launching any long range missiles, the ones that they have already so far, those are not being launched by Ukrainians, they're being launched by British and American servicemen inside Ukraine, because Ukraine does not have the technology, the intelligence or the surveillance by satellite to do any of this. All this targeting and all this launching has to be done by British or US service. So we are. World War III is on right now. Yeah, so we've. One of the things that we did is we attacked two of their over the horizon ICBM radar sites.

Speaker 2:

Now, if they had done that to us you can only guess what the results would have been.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so. So here I have to make a public service announcement, because now we are going to be accused of being a Russian asset. We're, we're, we're, we're going to. They're going to tell us, like they did with Donald Trump, that we're working with the Russians, and all so didn't propagate, since they're going to do that. And anyway, let me tell you you can look this all up. This is all fact, I agree.

Speaker 2:

I'm not making up any of this, and the only reason that I'm saying it is that we are not, here in Harford County, going to be immune from this.

Speaker 4:

No, we're not.

Speaker 2:

Guess what's on the target list? Apg is definitely on the target list. So the good news is that if anything happens, you know we're all going to be vaporized. I mean, we'll never know what hit us. The bad news is that everybody's going to be dead right.

Speaker 4:

So so you know, russia being the boogeyman. I I guess this. We don't want to make this go on on all night, but I've been reading some things that that putin's done as far as banning some, some really lousy food and some poison over there that the american government just feeds everybody left and right here. So who cares about their people more and I'm starting to think Russia and Putin care more about their people than the United States government because they're like you just said, they're flirting with nuclear war and for many of us here in the United States that's that's going to mean we're going to be vaporized and other places are going to live. I hope you guys like Mad Max, because that's kind of what's going to happen.

Speaker 2:

Well, and the other thing is, too is that we're flirting with disaster, but we're doing it in a way that the people that we're supporting are not going to win. They can't win. Their population is much smaller, they have no manufacturing ability, and we want to get into a war with people that have actual manufacturing capabilities, have raw materials, which is why the ultimate goal of all of this is to break Russia up into several independent states that we can control, and that's not me making this up no.

Speaker 2:

Council on Foreign Relations. Go look it up. There's maps out there of what they've decided to do.

Speaker 4:

That's what the globalists want. They also. Russia stands in the way of the globalist agenda.

Speaker 2:

And this all started back when, in the year 2000,. Because after the United States had interfered in the 1996 Russian election in order to get the drunk Boris Yeltsin reelected, and one of the things that Yeltsin did at the end was he made Putin prime minister. And after the fall of the Soviet Union, the Russian nation was just on its back.

Speaker 2:

I mean the mortality rate was really high, alcoholism was really high, people didn't have places. I mean there was really high Alcoholism was really high. People didn't have places. I mean there was no heat. I mean there was just lots and lots of problems and one of the things Putin did was he threw out the oligarchs that we had installed to loot the country and he just started standing up and just kind of reconstructing the country and he wasn't bowing the knee to us, you know, like Yeltsin did. So it all started way back then. But you know, the bottom line here is is that there's no good outcome here and we're using our blood and treasure and we're presiding over the genocide of an entire nation. I mean, the average life expectancy of a Ukrainian soldier at the front is three days. They are, they are press ganging women off the streets and men that are, you know, in their forties and fifties to throw them into these trenches, basically with no training.

Speaker 4:

So so let's fast forward here. Like you just said, we're flirting with all this disaster and if you've looked at what Biden and Obama did to the military, it's disgusting. I mean, we've all seen some of these guys on television. Are they guys, they girls, they they got pronouns. They don't care about fighting and war and strategy. They're more worried about what the color of their lipstick is and whether it matches their rifle.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and the purpose of the United States military military, make no mistake it's to break things and kill people. There it's. It's not for social engineering, that well, that's what it's supposed to be yeah, yeah, and you need to leave these.

Speaker 4:

It's just. It's just like the, the guy who turned on trump, mad dog mattis. Um, he's the kind of guy who you put away in a closet behind glass and then, when everything goes wrong and you're in deep doo-doo, you break that glass and get him out and he goes and does his thing. But that's not the type of person we want out there all the time. Right, I mean, that's what our military needs to be. It needs to be serious. It needs to be a war machine. It needs to be. It needs to be serious, it needs to be a war machine, it needs to be a threat, and right now it's a laughingstock well, and we're not prepared for any of that we're not prepared for any of it.

Speaker 2:

You know, especially when you're going to fight a country on their turf, in their backyard yeah, with a country that has a manufacturing capability and has raw material capability, which we don't have a manufacturing capability, not anymore. A lot of our military equipment. It's been shown in this war that a lot of it really doesn't work very well and a lot of it is built not in the United States, like the F-35 fighter, which is a lousy fighter. 40% of it is built outside the country. A lot of the parts of it are built in Turkey and those parts are shipped to be assembled in the United States.

Speaker 2:

You can't get in a war with people that have manufacturing capability and raw materials like that, and you're also fighting a bunch of people that know what deprivation is. There are still people that lived during the second world war or grew up in the shadow of the second world war, so they know what deprivation is like. They know what living in a bombed out city is like. We don't yeah, you use the wrong pronoun with these people. They're gonna lose it they have a fit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, bad post on instagram. They've lost it, so.

Speaker 3:

I think it's worth mentioning the tradition, this historical tradition, of non-interventionism If you go back to Washington he talked about. He used the word intercourse, not in a sexual way, but to describe being friendly with all nations and entangling alliances with none.

Speaker 3:

Peace and commerce with everyone right and and if you, if you look at what the the french did for us in the revolution, and then they had their stuff going on right after that. We're kind of like, yeah, no thanks, and we didn't really get involved in that and and and we've kind of up until the last 50, 80 years or so we've kind of maintained that Even if you go back to World War II, world War I, there were prominent people that didn't want to get involved in the war and they weren't considered liberals or unpatriotic.

Speaker 4:

People have died over this. I think that's one of the reasons they got rid of Kennedy right. Unpatriotic people have died over this. I think that's one of the reasons they got rid of kennedy right. And when you say we, I cringe because I don't think the american people are buying all this. This is the. The cia is part of the, the, the globalist part of the, the new world order, and that's the folks that are involved in all of this and they've taken over part of the american government and they're using our military. This is not america anymore. That is not what's going on. That's why they're so damn afraid of donald trump, because he speaks for americans right and and and they.

Speaker 3:

He he's talking for people like us that have sons, and he's far from perfect you know, I know two of us sitting around the table have sons that are, that are drafting age and it's, you know, you think about it in those terms. It's, it's, it's not good. But if you go to Flynn, you look at how Flynn got rolled General Flynn, general Flynn, general Flynn After Trump was elected. You know, we, hear, hear it. We, the people, have long memories. I remember how trump was the anti-war candidate you know everybody.

Speaker 3:

Everybody tries to assign the democrat position as being anti-war, but if you look at the 2016 election, it was trump. Hillary was out there stirring stuff up. She, she was doing the saber rattling with Russia and that was one of the reasons I voted for Trump. It's like I don't want somebody out there stirring stuff up with the Russians.

Speaker 4:

You're tough dudes. You just brought up something important too, when you talked about Flynn.

Speaker 2:

Well, she's a neocon.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, she was there with Victoria Nuland mccain stirring up stuff in kiev but what you just said, if, if you go and listen, watch the movie about flynn and go back. He knows where the bodies are buried and trump put him in charge of figuring out where all this, this money and this waste is going. A lot of that waste is the cia taking money to do their dirty work so that it's not on the books.

Speaker 3:

And flynn knew these things and they couldn't have that, so they went after this guy because he knew where the bodies were buried but if you, if you take, take that and that, all that's true, and you go back to the uh, afghanistan war and the russians fought in afghanistan 20 years and they packed it up and said you know, we're not doing this anymore.

Speaker 2:

It was like 10 years.

Speaker 3:

Well, I thought it was 20. Like 10 years.

Speaker 2:

Either way, we were there for 20 years.

Speaker 3:

We were there for 20. I thought they were there for 20.

Speaker 2:

And we still didn't learn our lesson.

Speaker 3:

But we could have learned our lesson from them and we didn't.

Speaker 4:

We go over there, and then we leave all our equipment over there.

Speaker 3:

But you know, here, like there's, there's something to be said for. Getting back to the washingtonian views of a non-interventionist foreign policy.

Speaker 4:

We're gonna have to because we don't have the treasure anymore. We're bankrupt. Uh, we've spent so much money on the military and the military industrial complex wants more and more and more, but there ain't no more kind of like hcps we're not getting any bang for the buck no right, we're in trouble, folks, we're in deep doo-doo but uh, I mean article.

Speaker 3:

You know we've said this on this podcast before and I think it bears repeating. Article 1, section 8 of the united states constitution gives the authority to declare war to the congress, not president. And you look, I, I don't. I can't remember if korea was I properly declared war, so not since world war ii I was a police action. Have we properly declared war on? Well?

Speaker 4:

on an asian. We do want to get off this topic, but you said something else that's very important. Both of you brought this up about manufacturing and if you go back to world war one and world war two, we had a strong manufacturing base in this country and we were able to crank it up. That is gone. They've destroyed that. We're not going to be able to do that now a lot of it's offshore remember when the, the japanese, the, the yamamoto, feared that he had woken a giant sleeping giant and that's exactly what he did.

Speaker 4:

Now, if you wake up a sleeping giant, he's going to be running around with his head chopped off because he's got nothing to fight with. He's got no war machine. We've got some of the dumbest people in charge of things. We're in really bad shape. No longer do smart people want to work in government. There's very few of them.

Speaker 2:

It's like none of them nobody at the State Department or anybody at the Pentagon. It's like none of them have ever read the Art of War or Klaus Witz's On War, because if you had read any of those books, you wouldn't be doing the stuff you're doing yeah, we're.

Speaker 3:

We're as molly hatchet once said we're flirting with disaster well, and and one other thing, you know, something happened today that kind of makes me want to circle back to your uh manufacturing comment. I was I was at a job site today and we had a F-550 was sitting out there and it was idling and it started idling really high and the guy was like, hey, my truck does this sometimes. I'm like, yeah, leave it alone, it's got to go into the regeneration mode and he's like well, what's?

Speaker 3:

that it's like well, your wonderful federal government decided that you needed to have this device on your exhaust and that that pretty much destroys all the benefits of having a diesel engine, right, um, but that that's what we're up against. You know, you go to korea. I was, that was, uh, I served in korea when I was in the uh, the air force. These guys are burning trash, they're burning plastic cups in their own backyard. They're not, they're not worried about the environment. You know, here we're doing all this stuff and we're supposed to run this race, we're supposed to be number one, united states supposed to be number one, and yet we've got these, these tyrants telling us okay, you get, you got to put this dpf on, you got to do this, you got to do that, theyf on it, you got to do this, you got to do that. They've got all these regulations that they're putting on business. How are you going to be? And then we're not number one and they're like well, why are we? It's greedy corporations are the reason we're not number one.

Speaker 3:

Well, no, it's because you're putting all these stupid regulations.

Speaker 4:

We got to put DPF filters and use synthetic p in our put, synthetic p in our, in our exhaust system, in the particular filter and and, but the government doesn't have to do that for their vehicles, but it's illegal. Or you if I, if you or I do it yeah well, they don't want us being able to travel by automobile or by truck. They want us to be stuck exactly where we are. So they want to control the trains, yep.

Speaker 2:

and when you hear, when you hear the, the um, the designate, the democrats, next designated sock puppet, talk about what she's going to do for the middle class. It's like she's out there saying oh, we have to read, we have to invest in housing. So that $25,000 that she's promising you, hey, guess what? You're not getting a house with a yard, you're getting an apartment and the projects, because that's what they're going to do. That's what they're trying to do here. They're trying to build high-rise Section 8 subsidized housing and they're trying to do it right here in Hartford County, right here in Hartford County. And the other problem is going to be, ultimately, if this goes on long enough and with the way the education system is going, we're not going to have anybody that's even smart enough to do the math, to build a building or to design like a P injector for a diesel truck. There's just not going to be anybody even smart enough left to do that, because everybody's going to be a moron.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm afraid the movie idiocracy public school system will have succeeded in making everybody a moron yeah, we're gonna have a lot of social media influencers that are gonna save us. But the good news is that rondo, it's what plants crave.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, well, listen, let's switch up topics now. Especially since you brought this up, this is a good way for me to segue into it. There is a former local official was spotted out at an event this weekend. He came over to me and said that he finally recalls my use of the word moron since you were using that word, but I used to address the council a lot and call them morons because well, they're morons. But he remembers that fondly now, so I'm not sure what that says about him, but that's what he said.

Speaker 3:

So, with that said, If you're listening, God bless Texas. Do we want?

Speaker 2:

to. I think it's pretty clear that at all levels of government, we are being ruled by the dumbest people.

Speaker 4:

Yes, yeah, so, and I'm not calling that particular individual dumb, by the way no he's.

Speaker 2:

He's smart enough to get out he's smart enough to get out.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, I don't think he was very good at governing, but I think he's a decent guy yeah, he's a nice guy, uh. So listen, let's talk about the maryland gop a little, because this is a strong thing right now. Everybody that you run into if you go out to political events, they're, they're. Oh, I don't like hogan, but you need to hold your nose and vote for him, and I'm saying no, no, no way, and there's good reasons for it.

Speaker 4:

I thought this would be a good program to dive into that a little bit, especially since they're going to call us a russian asset and all sorts of other things now well, that's what people that don't have an argument do. Yeah, you're exactly right. They bury their head in the sand.

Speaker 2:

I challenge anybody to counter anything that I said with regard to the whole Ukraine-Russia thing, because everything is a fact and you can look it up. I got you.

Speaker 4:

Well, the problem is they're trying to fix it so you can't look it up. That's true, the disinformation. If everything's a lie, then you don't know what to believe. So they go around lying constantly. That's why people are how can they say that? Well, they know it's a lie.

Speaker 2:

They're doing it intentionally to discredit everything well ronald reagan's former cia director, bill casey, say we will know we've achieved our mission when everything the american people believe is a lie.

Speaker 4:

Wow yeah.

Speaker 2:

He said that on his deathbed, by the way.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, there's a, there's a lot of stuff that comes out.

Speaker 2:

Bill Casey.

Speaker 4:

There's a lot of things that come out and just just look around you, though. People are waking up. People are waking up. There's more and more people now that question everything. They question the moon landing, they question all sorts of stuff. Questions are good. There is nothing wrong with asking questions. That's how you learn, that's how you find out things. So when you do ask questions and you're told to sit down and shut up and that you're an idiot, that's an indication that you're barking in a direction that they don't want you to look.

Speaker 2:

Well, it comes right down to the local level too, because the Hartford County Public Schools can't even tell the truth about anything.

Speaker 4:

Really no, but do we want to keep talking about the GOP? Travis, what do you got to say?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I am happy to beat up on lockdown, larry, at any opportunity.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, we need to rid the Republican Party of that mess.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and if you don't mind, I mean I don't mind.

Speaker 4:

I don't know what you're gonna do.

Speaker 3:

I okay, well, well, thank you for your broad uh. Hang on, he's on a roll.

Speaker 4:

Last year in the newsletter, uh I love the newsletter, by the way one of the things that we put in there I'm a huge, huge fan.

Speaker 3:

It would be the I don't know October 7th 2023. It was in the October 27th, I'm sorry. 7th 2023 newsletter.

Speaker 4:

Okay, if you want to the archives.

Speaker 3:

The archive. Our officials had a duty to defend their constituents and the rule of law from Hogan's unconstitutional assumption of power, yet they did nothing but sheepishly comply with his unlawful edicts, one after the other. Yes, we're bitter about it. No, we're never going to forget how they divided us. We're never going to forget how they put our elderly loved ones on house arrest in nursing homes where many died depressed and alone, feeling abandoned and separated from their loved ones. We won't forget about our family members in the medical profession, with a Republican governor fired for not taking an experimental clot shot.

Speaker 3:

We won't forget the local politicians and bureaucrats who treated us like cattle instead of citizens. We won't forget their commands forbidding us to go to work, church or eat Thanksgiving dinner with our family and friends. We won't forget how those of us who had questions and concerns about an experimental injection were demonized. Not only were we demonized, we were dehumanized and literally told to die. We won't forget how they pitted us against one another and tried to turn us into snitches for any attempt to live a normal, meaningful life. And we won't forget all the cheerleaders and sympathizers who gave political cover, making excuses for tyrants, as they willingly crouched down and licked the boots of our oppressors. Little Patrick Henry lingo there. Our group was birthed out of frustration with lockdowns, jab mandates, underperforming schools that indoctrinate rather than educate and many other constitutional violations. Unfortunately, everyone that was responsible for it in Hartford County was a Republican. Sorry, guys. So forgive us if we don't have much of an appetite for the cheerleading anymore. We don't care if the left boot or the right boot of tyranny is on our neck.

Speaker 4:

We want the boot off our neck, period that is an awesome find in the archives Travis, because that's exactly what we're talking about here. I was going to dive in and say, if you're going to forget all that, you want also rooks to win. Tell me how you're going to respond to that.

Speaker 3:

Okay, if I'm facing an enemy, and would you rather have an enemy that's right in front of you telling you I'm gonna kill you, I hate you, I hate everything you stand for. Would you rather have somebody that says, yeah, I'm with you, I'm your buddy, I you know I'm with you 80 of the time. But then they sneak around the back. They sneak around the back and they keep stabbing you in the back and they undermine everything good that you're trying to do. And they're not really with you 80%. Maybe they're with you 10% of the time if you're lucky, but they're not really an 80%. Well, not only that, that's your Larry Hogan, that's true.

Speaker 4:

Not only that, but we need to rid ourselves of these rhinos. Good conservatives need other good conservatives representing them, and that will never happen as long as you fall for their false doctrine of voting for the lesser of two evils well, and it's kind of like politicians are like kids.

Speaker 3:

Sorry to interrupt and interrupt you.

Speaker 4:

it's all right, travis, we'll go to Patrick next.

Speaker 3:

But the problem is if you have children and you give your children an allowance, well, with Mrs Sunday and I, when we gave our children money, we didn't just randomly give them money. We expected them to do things like cut the grass or clean up their rooms or whatever. If they didn't do those things, they didn't get the money. You're telling Larry Hogan he doesn't have to act like a conservative, he doesn't have to be a conservative, he doesn't have to defend the Constitution, but we're still going to give you the money just because we don't want Alcibrooks. You are rewarding bad behavior. So, just like with your kids, if you want your kids to clean your room and you say, okay, I'll give you five bucks a week if you clean your room, and they don't clean the room and you give them five bucks anyway, they're idiots. If they clean the room, you, you and you. And you're an idiot for giving them. Giving them the money because they're not gonna do what you told them to do, but but you're going to reward them anyway. You cannot reward somebody.

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, sometimes we got to compromise, sometimes we got to say, okay, well, this guy doesn't agree with me 100% of the time, but he's pretty good, he's better than the alternative. But when your person is stabbing you in the back and your person isn't even doing the 80% or 50%, there's got to be a line somewhere. There's a few things you've got to get right rights if your candidate doesn't believe that you, as an American citizen, have a right to work and to worship and to travel and to gather, as guaranteed in the First Amendment of the United States Constitution, if he doesn't agree, if the politician is from Maryland and Article 44 of the Maryland Constitution says all this stuff applies no matter what, and your politician is saying well, we can't hang. You know it's a pandemic, people are getting sick. We can't really follow the law. No, you've got to draw a line somewhere amen travis, you were 100 correct applies in time of war as well as peace is what it says.

Speaker 4:

There are no state of emergency, especially in time of war, if if you don't have a constitution in time of war as well as peace is what it says. There is no state of emergency especially in time of war.

Speaker 3:

If, if you don't have a constitution in time of war, if you don't have a constitution during a pandemic, you don't have a constitution at all.

Speaker 4:

Right, and that's what we're here to defend the damn constitution and the politicians that don't like it.

Speaker 2:

They can go to hell well, and larry hogan and and many of them will, I believe and larry hogan is a perfect example of of what we have mentioned on this show many, many times. It's like if you're upset about the way things are happening in washington dc and the policies that are being implemented and the laws that are being passed, where do you think that those people come from? They come from county councils, they come from state houses and they come from governor's offices. So all you're doing is enabling the very thing that you say, that you deplore. And Larry Hogan is no conservative. He snowed Maryland during the Tea Party with this Change Maryland organization that he had and he rode that horse into the governor's mansion because everybody had the idea that he was this big conservative. And I get so tired of hearing these rhino cheerleaders getting upset with us Like we're crazy and we're the extremists. It's like, oh really, he surrounded himself with pedophiles.

Speaker 2:

No, but I mean we're. We're the extremists, we're the ones that want limited government, honest money, true, uh, the greatest amount of civil liberties that are consistent with a civil society, free markets which is different than being business friendly and a non-interventionist foreign policy, that is not. That is conservative.

Speaker 4:

Actually, I would argue that free markets are the most business friendly, because everybody knows what to expect when you're, when you're looking for rule changes from the government to help your side. That discourages other people from getting business friendly in.

Speaker 2:

Hartford County, and, and, and, and in America is. You know you give me money for my campaign and I do and.

Speaker 4:

I'm going to you know make sure that you get the zoning and the laws, the things that you want, but I mean, we detailed this in another episode, so I'm not going to go into it here, but Larry Hogan did in fact surround himself with a lot of people that have been convicted of crimes against children, sexual sex crimes against children. Oh yeah, what was?

Speaker 3:

Judge Newell and the videotapes in the in the showering facilities.

Speaker 4:

And he himself has been been accused of participating and I don't know that there's been any real investigating done so no, I'm not voting for him one of his associates kidnapped a 17 year old boy at gunpoint to uh have sex with him. Yeah, yeah, and people go oh, tell me, prove it, shut up, I cannot be your brain, I can't be your brain. For you folks, if you don't care to learn and get involved other than watching your stupid television set, then there's no help for you.

Speaker 3:

Well, and you look at other leaders that inspire people. They have coattails. They cause other people down ballot to be elected. Larry Hogan had no coattails. They cause other people down ballot to be elected. Larry Hogan had no coattails. Not only did he not have coattails, he openly threw people. Yeah, you look at like Dan Cox. You look at Michael Peruca. He threw those guys under the bus.

Speaker 4:

Two very good conservatives.

Speaker 3:

He pretty much endorsed more, so he didn't have to do that. He wasn't running for anything. Then his best buddy larry larry.

Speaker 4:

Barry glassman gave more money, which more turned around, and gave it to barry's opponent, which is because classic, because more is smarter than glassman, more knows who's on his team and yes you know, but?

Speaker 2:

but when larry hogan was sucking up to more yeah during the campaign, yeah, like that was going to help I'm tired of them.

Speaker 4:

Well, we we've detailed a lot of this already yeah, in these podcasts don't want to beat a dead horse.

Speaker 2:

you can see a lot of this stuff about mr hogan on launchlibertycom yeah, yeah, great website yeah, but uh.

Speaker 4:

But Patrick brought up a great point because we keep rewarding this type of thing and the Maryland GOP continues to put forth and support candidates that are not conservative. When we have conservative candidates, like Travis mentioned, they're not supported by the Maryland GOP at all. In fact, the GOP threw a little hissy fit when Dan Cox won and Peruca and and refused to support him and openly supported the other side.

Speaker 2:

So that's why it's not a good idea to just support Hogan because you don't like also Brooks well, having spent some time around the Maryland GOP, I can tell you that it's probably one of the most worthless organizations in America. I mean, it might be a little bit better than the California GOP, but probably not by much. They all they really care about is getting together and having their little conclaves, you know, having a bunch of cocktails and like talking about. You know what are we going to do? We're just. You know what are we going to do?

Speaker 1:

We're just you know, there's just nothing that we can do.

Speaker 2:

They get absolutely nothing done. Those darn Democrats are just. They just don't let us, just don't let us do anything. So. But they never go out and find a candidate on Western Maryland or the Eastern shore, you know that has. You know, principles of limited government support sound money that supports maximum amount of freedom consistent with a civil society. They don't look for those people, they look for their trolls that they think that they can push across the line and they never do. I mean they never. They haven't increased their majority in either house, in the state house, in I can't remember how long.

Speaker 4:

So let's take it even further. Harford County is supposed to be a conservative enclave in Maryland and the people are. The people in Harford County, at least up to a certain point, were very conservative. They were being tricked, cheated and lied to by the likes of barry glassman, and that that's why we have. When the lockdowns and all came, we just marched in lockstep with them. Nobody stood up for us, nobody did anything. That's the danger of supporting these guys. We need the gop in maryland to starve to death if they're not going to be conservative like the people. We need them to do our bidding, because at the local level it's really important to have strong conservatives and we don't. We don't, and that's because we're allowing these milquetoast rhinos to to take charge.

Speaker 2:

Well, the people like I said, the people that complain about what's going on in washington dc, these milquetoast rhinos to take charge. Well, the people, like I said, the people that complain about what's going on in Washington DC you need to get involved and start taking an interest and getting active and know what's happening in your county, because your county is being turned Democrat.

Speaker 4:

There's no one in the county that's going to stand up for you.

Speaker 2:

This county is being turned Democrat. The county council, these fake Republicans that are on the county council, are all for having these section 8 apartment buildings built here, and yep, all that's going to do is it's going to create more people. Then you're going to need more infrastructure. You're going to need more schools.

Speaker 3:

You're going to need more buses, more services you're going to need more of everything.

Speaker 2:

And then what happens?

Speaker 4:

your taxes are going to go up the only people that are here to pay for it are going to be the conservatives. That's who's going to pay for it. And I'm going to tell you something about your damn school teachers folks Most of them, not all of them. There are some very good people in the school system. There are also a whole lot, and a lot more than there used to be, of left wing lunatic liberals and guess what? They're unemployable outside of government service. They are unemployable.

Speaker 2:

And they're good for nothing except brainwashing your child into Marxist ideology, like BLM and DEI.

Speaker 4:

Exactly. This is why the steady march downward. We're circling the drain, spiraling around the toilet bowl, however you want to put this thing, and it's because we keep doing the same basic dumb stuff over and over.

Speaker 2:

Well, see, the thing is the left, it takes the long view of history. They take the long march through the institutions. They captured the educational institutions, you know, a long time ago, and they captured academia. They've captured, captured the media, so they take the long view of things. Problem with conservatives is, you know, they elect some republican and they're like oh, okay, we got a republican county council and a republican county exactly. We can all go home now yeah, right.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, it's sad. Since we're talking about the school system, let's keep digging in on that subject and part of that is good.

Speaker 3:

That's part of what's good.

Speaker 4:

Wait, you gotta.

Speaker 3:

You gotta tell us what's good okay, what's what's good is the mindset that we're. You're conservative and you don't have the desire to to lord it over other people and rule other people and tell other people how to live their lives you gotta get those people elected.

Speaker 3:

That's what you meant and meant, and those kinds of people. You're out there working 60, 70 hours a week on your small business. You're putting a roof over your head for your family. You're doing the right thing. You're not thinking about, oh man, I need to take over this system so that we can indoctrinate the children, you know. But, like Patrick was saying, you have got to look at the long game, because this is what the enemy is doing. They have already, not just academia, not just the schools. You look at the corporate America, all this DEI stuff. You know we've talked about Harley Davidson and Ford and now Toyota. You look at a lot of these places that are just taking in. You know it's against their own best interest, but but this warped thinking has got people think oh wait, well, we need to do this.

Speaker 4:

And not only that, if you're still here, that means we haven't pissed you off. So I would invite you to go to your board meetings. When I say that school board meeting, there's a lot going on in hartford county right now. Just to give you a little example there, the superintendent is a hardcore left-wing ideologue and he is brainwashing and poisoning the children. The scores are in the toilet. The there's no safety he's. He's stated that he doesn't consider the safety of the children when he's doing his job.

Speaker 4:

That's not something he's worried about a free education for everyone is is a higher, he's more is he rather have jeffrey dalmer in the classroom than you know with your child then? Then virtually, because that's more important for Jeffrey.

Speaker 2:

Well, you know, and I was standing outside of the Board of Education meeting on Monday night and the Harvard County Board of Education had just released one of their latest. It's amazing they even let these statistics out, but in 8th through 12th grade they had actually scored an increase in math, math proficiency, math proficiency in that. It went from 14, 14% to 17%. And I asked a teacher it's like and you're okay with that? She said absolutely yes, she was totally okay with that. She was also wearing a she's a large woman and she had a big, huge t-shirt on that said I stand with Sean.

Speaker 4:

So these people are okay with the people that they're supposed to be preparing for life to be idiots, right, and she was part of the bad hair club that I'm going to talk about here in a second. So when she says, I stand for Sean. The reason that that's going on is there is at least one board member who's finally fed up with all of this nonsense and with kids not being safe in school, and this board member actually called for his resignation. Well, that got the bad hair club really upset. So now they're up there speaking out, and it would actually be really funny to listen to them speak if it weren't so scary. Scary Because they're idiots. They're, frankly, they're idiots. They're comments that don't make any sense, and I swear a hairdresser could make a million dollars there, because these folks have never seen one dollars there because these folks have never seen one.

Speaker 3:

Well, can I? Can I just say as somebody that uh, mrs sunday and I have homeschooled all of our offspring, uh, from k to 12, and uh, mrs sunday has endured great sacrifice to to do this and I'm very appreciative to her. Um, so, as as somebody that maybe a lot of people would think don't have skin in the game in the in, in the public schools, let me just remind you know, a lot of people are kind of like me and they're and they're like man. You know, I don't really care what goes on in HCPS. You know my kids don't go there. That place is Ichabod. I don't want to. You know they're beyond saving. If you feel that way, you still need to come to these board meetings, and the reason is because they're taking a lot of your freaking money to give, to give to these people, and it's not right, it's not, it's not good for the community. So let's. What's happening in the community is wrong.

Speaker 2:

Yes, so well. And not only that, these kids are going to be running the place in 20 years. I mean they're going to be, you know, elected to something. Probably they're going to be on a staffer for somebody, or you know they're going to be out in the world working and they're going to be, you know, moving into positions of authority. And if they, if the current trends continue, with the way their minds are being destroyed with this Marxist DEI crap and all this other like you know, the, the transsexualism and everything else it's a mental illness the whole future of the country is going to go down the drain.

Speaker 4:

So that's where I was going with this. There is one board member that spoke out and asked for this crazy superintendent to resign and that upset the left. The left has come out and demanded this board member's resignation. They're all over this person. The conservatives really should be out there supporting this person, because what she's done takes courage. She's asked for the right thing. And oh, by the way, if you listen to these people talk, the schools are underfunded. They're coming for your money, they want your money. They don't like you, and I will also tell you that they hate God, and they say so in their three minute speeches to the board.

Speaker 2:

I heard that Monday night.

Speaker 4:

They think that anybody like that's like us needs to go away and stop bothering them. So I'm challenging you, If you're listening to this, are you going to sit home and let the left do that to you? Are you going to go out and support this person that's trying to do right by the children and and demand this guy resign and show the left that we are here and that there's many more of us than you. And oh, by the way, you can't have our money.

Speaker 2:

And the person that's trying to get bolson out of there, that had talked about it and entered and pushed for it, is the actual vice president of the school board, melissa hun, I'm just gonna say, let's just put that out there yeah, and the president of the board, who was appointed by bob casley, along with the other two bob casley appointees, are not supporting her they're fake conservatives. They got put on the board because they were supposedly conservative, and they're fake.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, so you basically have an extremist left-wing liberal board. I'm going to, I'm going to go further and I'm going to tell you that I guarantee that the guy running the board, aaron pointing, is going to be running for something else. You can look at his globalist resume and see that he's not a leader at all. Sure, you're going to read his resume and go and tell me that I'm crazy and I don't know what I'm talking about. But I challenge you to go to the board meeting and watch. You'll see. This guy is not a leader. He's not even close to a leader.

Speaker 2:

The proof will be right before your eyes.

Speaker 4:

That leadership is the problem, guys.

Speaker 3:

That's the problem we have none, and you know people accuse us of of beating up on all the republicans. But good on melissa han for for standing up and having a backbone. Amen, doing the right thing. You know, you know we've, we've, we've beat up on you guys when you did the wrong thing, but we're, we're men enough to say you know what You've done. Good here, melissa.

Speaker 4:

So the only two Republicans in. Hartford County that stood up for anything are Melissa Hahn and Bob Cassidy.

Speaker 2:

And don't tire in doing good.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, that's right. Take, take pride in the fact that they're coming for you. That means you're over the target, yeah and so? So here we are with this really important thing going on with getting rid of this superintendent. Where, where is the harford delegation? They're not there. There's not a representative from the board, I mean from the council, at these meetings. They don't show up. Where's jb?

Speaker 3:

jennings saying hey, this guy, this guy is bad for harford.

Speaker 4:

There's no one at this board. There's I, I, I saw a person from bob castley's administration there, I'm not even going to mention the name, but there's just nobody. That used to. They used to have people from the council. That was always, you know, a liaison or somebody there's paying attention. What's going on. They've given up, or or they approve. I, I don't know what, but the leadership in this county sucks they well.

Speaker 2:

The reason they're not there is because they agree with bolson. But I'll tell you where jb jennings is. When he's not at a fundraiser, he's out voting for bills that restrict your ability to speak out against election interference, and he votes for a bill that will establish a, a disinformation board with the attorney general of the state of Maryland that can have you prosecuted. That's where JB Jennings is.

Speaker 4:

Well, it's the council president, patrick Vincente. Supposed to be a conservative, acts like he is, but he's not that man. The decoy dictator, the decoy dictator, heoy dictator. He should absolutely have one of his council members appointed to pay attention to the school board meetings, to go to the board meetings to rally the troops. None of this stuff is happening because we have crummy leadership, because these guys get a ton of money from people that don't care about you, that only care about building their Section 8 housing, and they only do what those guys want to do. You have the worst leadership in Harford County history.

Speaker 2:

And everybody, almost everybody on that council is compromised in some way, compromised or just stupid. Penman is illegally occupying his seat because he's in violation of the county charter by having a state job and a county job.

Speaker 3:

So is Bennett.

Speaker 2:

So is Jacob.

Speaker 3:

Bennett. Despite the claims of a liberal, maryland judge.

Speaker 4:

Yes, and Bennett is, but there you have an example of the lone Democrat, or is there another one? I think there's two Democrats on that board.

Speaker 3:

Guthrie.

Speaker 4:

But Guthrie's more conservative than yeah, but most of the bennett's doing he's doing a heck of a lot for for the democrats who don't have any representation, but he's carrying their water and he's doing a pretty good job of it, apparently. Yeah I hate to praise these guys, but but where are the hell, are the Republicans?

Speaker 2:

Boyle Sottles is compromised. She votes on zoning and she votes on projects that she stands to benefit from with her minority-owned excavation business and being a realtor she's compromised.

Speaker 3:

Well, and so is the decoy dictator himself with the hotel tax.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, he has helped himself to over a million dollars worth of the slush money. Well, speaking of the hotel tax, one of the things has helped himself to over a million dollars worth of the slush money out of. Oh, speaking of the hotel tax, one of the things it's not really a tax. Well, one of the things that castley has come under fire from is, like from these, uh, penman, aligned rhinos in this county is that you know he cut the funding out for visit harford.

Speaker 2:

So it's like this big oh, you're just you're, you're, you're killing tourism in Hartford County. It's, it's horrible. It's like well, if visit Hartford was such a great thing, why is it not able to fund itself, Right? No, why can't it fund itself?

Speaker 4:

He's doing. He's pulling the plug on money that's not being well spent, and those people are going to have a fit.

Speaker 2:

Kevin Sente has helped himself with his vote to over a million dollars worth of hotel tax money in the years that that thing has been, and for his decoy museum, which I'd love to see the visitor's record of that place because I wonder how many people a year even go there. I never see anybody there. I never see any car.

Speaker 4:

Yeah, the tourism thing was a great way to launder money. What a brilliant idea, guys. Sorry, harford county is never going to be some hub of of tourism and have some injection of cash into harford county.

Speaker 2:

You're still going to have to get your cash from us conservatives is the city of aberdeen still sucking wind off the ripken stadium then?

Speaker 3:

they're probably still paying for that boondoggle that was another, but it's so nice another white elephant yeah, let me know when you're ready to leave on a happy note, because we're all right well, 59 minutes yeah, I should.

Speaker 4:

We join hands and sing kumbaya I was gonna end on some patrick henry, if I can, yeah I think we're gonna go to travis sunday, because a lot of the stuff we're talking about we we could talk about all night, but I'm sure people are ready to move on and do something else this evening.

Speaker 2:

I'm ready for our kumbaya moment.

Speaker 3:

I really want to read the whole Patrick Henry speech, but I know I can't, so I'm going to take some snippets out. There is a just God who presides over the destinies of nations and who will raise up friends to fight our battles. For us, the battle, sir, is not to the strong alone, it is to the vigilant, the active, the brave. And you know, we encourage you all to not just be strong but to be vigilant and active and brave. We need a lot more activity in Hartford County.

Speaker 3:

But you know, later on in his speech, he said gentlemen may cry peace, peace, but there is no peace. The war is actually begun. The war for your children has actually begun. If I can interject that, the next gale that sweeps from the north will bring to our ears the clash of resounding arms. Our brethren are already in the field. Why stand we here idle? What is it the gentlemen wish? What would they have? Is life so dear or peace so sweet as to be purchased at the price of chains and slavery? Forbid it, almighty God. I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or give me death. Good night and God bless.

Speaker 4:

Every crooked move you make, every corrupt breath you take. We'll be watching you.