Unearthing Your Spiritual Power & Dealing with Death: A Conversation with Medium Chantal Denise!

Hello beautiful souls! Have you ever wondered if you possess hidden spiritual gifts, just waiting to be unlocked? Join us as we welcome the incredibly talented Chantal Denise, a spirit medium, energy healer, intuitive coach, and spiritual counselor, who shares her incredible spiritual journey and how she discovered her own gifts at a young age. Chantal opens up about the challenges of loss and healing and offers valuable insights into how connecting with the spiritual realm can bring comfort and a deeper understanding of life.

In this heartfelt conversation, we explore the power of signs from spirit in nature and the deep soul connection we have with our loved ones. Chantal shares her expertise on how to tap into and develop our own spiritual gifts, revealing that we all have inherent abilities that can be honed through practices like meditation and working with a spiritualist church development circle. We also discuss the importance of connecting with the elements and our intuition, as well as understanding the influence of energy in our lives.

As we navigate a changing world, it's crucial to find balance and stay centered. Tune in as Chantal shares her wisdom on how to stay connected through meditation and other tools, touching on the impact of solar flares on our physical bodies and the importance of finding balance amidst the chaos. Don't miss this inspiring and insightful conversation with Chantal Denise, and learn how to unleash your own spiritual gifts!

Thank you so much for listening! Wishing you a day filled with love, blessings, and magic! 

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Email: readings@chantaldenise.com
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Transcript

Kelly Matthews: 0:04

Welcome beautiful souls to Enlighten and Elevate. This episode is very special to me. Our guest, Chantal, has been a huge part of my healing and spiritual growth. She is a medium and energy healer who the universe brought into my family's life when we most needed her. I think the message everybody should take from this is that the universe always has your back and we are all so supported. Thank you so much for being here. Please remember to rate, review and follow the show. Thank you.

: 0:44

Welcome soul family. I am so excited I have Chantal Denise as our guest today. She is a spirit medium, energy healer, intuitive coach, spiritual counselor and mentor. I have known her for almost 15 years. I am so excited to have her here.

: 1:02

How I met Chantal, my mother passed away 15 years ago. My sister was babysitting for a family in Southern Illinois. The person she was babysitting for went and had a reading. She had lost a sister to leukemia. My mom came through on that reading All validations, naming all of the children and their birthdays and talking about how she died and all the things. My sister came back and told us all of this information. Everybody had to talk to you. We were like we have to talk to this woman. That began our friendship and our relationship. I feel like you are my sister, my cousin. I genuinely felt that Actually just met Chantal in person. This past May We did an amazing retreat. The women's retreat that I spoke about before was very transformative. It was such a beautiful experience. I am going to go ahead and turn it over to Chantelle and tell us your story. How did you come to being a medium?

Speaker 3: 2:07

I know you were born that way. Definitely the Lady Gaga song born this way. I did with that. First of all, thank you so much for having me. We are family. I always learned so much from the people that I get to connect with, both living in physical form and their family members passed on. There's so many gifts in those connections and so many ways that I get to grow and expand through that. During your healing journey and your siblings and your father, with losing your mom. I had just my mom in 2006. Your mom was at 2007? 2008.

: 3:05

2008.

Speaker 3: 3:07

I know it was really close. We have that parallel sort of healing. I was a little ahead of you, probably to be helpful. That's outside of the mediumship, bringing her through and allowing her to communicate with you all. It's like sharing that journey, that grief journey. That's really special. I feel like we do have a bond there. For sure, when I got to meet you and Megan at the Soul Truths retreat for the first time one, it felt like I had met you before. I didn't feel new. Two, it was just really nice to have that physical interaction, that connection. There really aren't words to put to it. For me It was pretty emotional. Yeah, it was cool. As far as my story, wow, i wouldn't know quite well. A lot of times I'm asked when did you know you were a medium My entire life that I can remember.

Speaker 3: 4:18

I always had some sort of connection or ability to the other side. I would say I was around 11 when I realized that not everyone was experiencing what I was experiencing and it was the first time I really felt different. I guess I started to be more careful, if you will, in the things that I said that I was seeing, especially with your social group. I can actually remember I was walking with some friends through a parking lot. I was having an experience which was actually hearing spirit voices through the veil. I remember turning to a friend and saying did you hear that? She was just like what are you talking about? I'm like how it speeds up when they're talking, their voices will speed up sometimes and they talk really fast. She was just like, oh my goodness, i sound like I'm crazy. That was the beginning of a major realization that maybe not everyone was experiencing those things. I mean, i was really fun at center parties. Light as a feather Yes, i do. Weegee boards We had the Weegee board summer. I think we were going, or I was going into seventh grade, maybe it was seventh going into eighth grade, but that was the year of light as a feather. The Weegee boards every night with the kids in the neighborhood. We had the same spirits constantly showing up. They had quite a story. You probably could have wrote a book just on the spirits that were coming through and it was all very real to everyone. At that point I'm like I'll see In my mind it's like I'm not different, i'm experiencing this. Until there were some scary moments and pretty soon we were bearing the Weegee board in the back To stop Oscar. Oscar was a wild one coming through Again.

Speaker 3: 6:38

Another point where I was like, okay, maybe not everybody, maybe this isn't normal, if you will, but I was about 20 when I'll just back up and say I was always on a spiritual path. I was very curious about God or creator, always knowing there was some kind of magic in the universe. I knew angels were real. I had a connection with saints. I used to church shop From a pretty young age. Where I grew up there were many, many churches. It was outside of Chicago, really like suburbs, but around the Chicago Heights area I could walk to many, many local churches and I was kind of trying to find where I fit in, where I could be accepted with these, later finding out their gifts, but they didn't feel like gifts at that time. I was always on this spiritual journey. I even went through a period where I didn't feel that I fit into any sort of spiritual belief system. I tried to be an atheist around 16. I came out of that again and I was an evangelist for a couple years.

: 7:58

I seriously was.

Speaker 3: 7:59

I watched all the shows like Joyce Meyer Ministries and Preflow Dollar and all the 18, 19, 20. I was married young at 18 and pregnant at 19, and I would watch those shows just trying to be accepted, Right. I was like turn your life over to God and banish the devil, type of thing, because I felt like I had, because I could see, feel and hear spirits that I was the devil. There was the devil in me, so I was always trying to banish that. Then I had a near-death experience I've had a couple of those in this lifetime When I was giving birth to my first child we barely made it out alive. I knew, coming out of that, that I was gifted, that I was going to do it. I was going to use those gifts to help other people in some way. I just didn't know how. And that was really the beginning of navigating that journey very specific to that, and I could just kind of go on and on with that.

: 9:06

I don't know what you want me to share. Sure, i know a big part of what you do is you're on medium and you communicate. A lot of people come to you with loss. They're trying to heal. Loss is a part of life that is very challenging, especially when it's somebody that you're very close to, and I know that is something that I definitely struggled with And talking to you was so healing And having that connection. So I think dealing with loss is something that is challenging for a lot of people and a lot of people are facing that. I mean, they're gonna face it off and on in their lives, some people soon and some people later, and I think it varies too, depending on your connection to someone, how it affects you as you through that.

Speaker 3: 9:53

Absolutely Yeah. So, yeah, what's awesome about having this ability is that I do get to work with people who are grieving great losses, because we will go through them. That is part of life. We are and I talk about this a lot We are soul energy first. We are extensions of creator, which creator is pure soul energy, pure love. And we are an extension of that, a non-physical energy first and foremost. And we take on this physical vehicle, our body. The moment we're born, we've merged our non-physical energy to our now physical energy And we have this vehicle to move through during this lifetime while we expand, learn, grow, connect.

Speaker 3: 10:47

That's such a huge subject that I could talk about for hours. And then when we are done with, let's say, our schooling, or when we are done with completing our soul contract, all right, when it's finished and we leave the physical vessel vehicle behind and we don't die, our soul and the life force behind that which is our spirit, it just sort of vacates, right, Vacates the building and moves back into the non-physical world And people that are living, those left behind, they're grieving, they're sad, because they're attached to not only the soul and the spirit of someone but they're attached to that physical vessel. That's how we connect here in the physical world, When that is no longer. The grief is immense And what I'm able to do, and many others that are mediums, is connect to those that are living, with those that are past, who have moved back into non-physical world or non-physical reality, and validate that there's no death. It's not, it doesn't exist.

: 12:09

There is no death And It's just a transformation right, A transformation of that energy.

Speaker 3: 12:16

Absolutely. it is a transformation which is new for everyone, right? New for those left behind or, you know, we're not really left behind, but that's the way we see it or the way we experience it And it is a transition for the actual, you know, individual that has left their physical vehicle behind right? Yes, it is, it's a they have to remember what it's like to be non-physical and not have this, you know, heavy body, but being able to do the readings. I use that word because I guess that's the word that has been used for centuries, but I don't feel like I'm really reading anything other than energy. It's really more. you know that we should call it something more along the line of just communicating, because that's what it is. It's connecting and communicating with the soul, or the most authentic core energy of a being.

: 13:17

And I think there's a lot of misconceptions with death. There's a lot of fear surrounding death, right, you know, like it's the end or-. What I've come to realize is that we just don't remember it. But we've all done it before And there's nothing. We've all done it before, we just don't remember And there's nothing to be afraid of, because what you're going back to is pure love.

: 13:38

Pure, i mean, there is no suffering, there is no. You know, that's why we come, that's why we incarnate. We incarnate here because this is where we can expand and grow. You can't expand and grow in a place where everything is love and everything is, you know, that unconditional love space. You have to come here. That's why we agree to come here, so we can grow, and for that to happen, that is what we do, and I don't think I mean that's not been widely taught, that's not been widely talked about, and I think that's why there's so much fear about death. And people do think it's the end when the person leaves, they think, but there is really no separation, I mean in the physical.

: 14:15

There is In the physical, like there is a separation. You know We can't, you know that is a thing. But yes, but I back to you, just to speaking to what you were saying, like there we're still connected and they're still there.

Speaker 3: 14:28

Oh my gosh, yes, and they and death can be the actual death process, the dying process. If someone is fortunate enough, when you have a sudden death, that's much different as far as someone that is dying and say, on hospice. So we know that person is going to cross over. Sometimes it can be. It's like a beautiful rebirthing. It's brutal. I call it brutal because because That's a good term I do.

Speaker 3: 15:00

It's a brutal process because, sure, that physical body is going through some very brutal occurrences while it is letting go of this life and being reborn to the other side. You know, the family is also experiencing that right, but you can aid that person in being reborn. It's just like having a baby. It's also a beautiful experience, right When you're giving birth and you're being born. It can be beautiful. But there's some brutal moments. There's pain and there's anguish and there's some screaming and some moaning and you don't know what to expect. And do we give pain medicine, do we not? You know, and it's very much like that.

Speaker 3: 15:41

When we go back home, we go back to where we came from. This is not our home. This is. This is Earth. Physical world is not. It is so foreign to us, which and this is again another. I could go down a rabbit hole here, but you know, and we're really seeing it now but so many souls come into these bodies and they don't feel comfortable in their own skin And they sometimes never do within their lifetime. I see this a lot with and this is, you know, someone like people on the spectrum right Autism. You know, these are very high vibrational souls coming into these physical vessels that are very, you know, heavy and their high vibration and their body it's uncomfortable And they don't know what to do with it because it is foreign. These bodies are foreign to us. I think that's why we struggle a lot with finding balance with the physical body, because it is so foreign And I think other people don't understand it either, like somebody with autism, if you don't understand what they're feeling.

Speaker 3: 16:51

What they're experiencing, Absolutely. And then here we are as a society trying to quote, unquote, fix them, And so we put them through therapies and programs that try to make them, you know, normal. And they're just different vibration. We should be trying to allow them to acclimate to their experience versus ours. And that's what I went through, right, So I was always trying to acclimate to the norm. I, you know, was always trying to be like everyone else And it wasn't my truth. So I really do. When, you know, when there's someone that and I'm just using autism as an example, or even mental health as an example you know we're constantly trying to normalize than everyone very cookie cutter. And we're not cookie cutter, We at all, we're not meant to be.

Kelly Matthews: 17:55

Right.

Speaker 3: 17:57

Yeah, But as far as the gift of being able to validate how once we, once someone dies, how they are still working in your life is just amazing, And I have an example. So just the other day, just a couple of days ago, a family friend crossed over. She passed from cancer. She was actually her name's Pat. She was the same age as my mom And you met Rachel and Marissa at your retreat, I believe.

Speaker 3: 18:28

So, this is their mother And something that there's been so many validations, even before she actually physically died. Her spirit had left her body and she was coming through with messages. Okay, she was coming through with validations even before the actual physical body was gone. She was kind of like in that comatose state where many people that passed from cancer and go on to hospice experience. Rachel reached out to me this morning and sent and said to me hey, my mom left behind these bins for us kids and with each one of their names on it, with pictures and such, and so let me back up.

Speaker 3: 19:09

Yesterday they picked out the prayer card for her services And the long story short is, when she opened her box and was going through her pictures, she found a prayer card from her grandmothers. So Pat's mom that had passed on years ago found a prayer card in there And it was the exact same front and back prayer card that they chose for their mom And it's mother Mary holding flowers on one side and on the other side. They chose because their mom was Irish. They chose an Irish blessing. Well, it turned out her mom had the exact same one And this card just happened to be slipped into her box of pictures, so it's like you can't make this stuff up right.

Speaker 3: 19:53

And here's the other thing Pat and her mom were in each other's lives, but I think there was some tension there throughout their lifetime. So this was also a validation of okay, we're together, we're on the same page, and this was a validation. It was really just a beautiful thing to see. And those little messages, those little what people call coincidences or happenstance are not. It is spirit working in the background, sometimes even ahead of time, to bring through those validations.

: 20:29

So healing too. It brings everything full circle And when you're, it's really those are some of the most difficult times, and when you get those messages, it's really helps you to move, however slowly, however you know, it helps you to move forward. He put in one foot in front of the other. I think It does.

Speaker 3: 20:48

It does. And slowly you start to realize even everything I knew everything I knew is about spirit did not really matter when I lost my mom. It just I wanted my mom back, right Like I was selfish in that way Not selfish. I was so connected to her. We call it selfish, but it's not. It's just such a deep soul connection. We were attached to the hip and I just missed her. I wanted that back, even though I knew she's flying with the angels, she's back with her mom, she's back with her dad, she's, you know, having a great time. I was not having a great time.

Speaker 3: 21:32

I was not, my kids were not, my dad was not, my brother was not. We were not having fun And despite everything we knew and all the faith that we had. So we really needed those signs And they do come, if you pay attention. You know, when my mom passed prior to her dying, and maybe because of what we know and what we believe in our family. But my mom had made, had decided, certain signs with each person meaning when I die I'll come through to you in this way. And she had agreed with my 11 year old daughter, so her oldest granddaughter, and they worked together every day of my daughter's life, unless we were on vacation, very close, they were best buds And she told my daughter when I go, i'll come to you as a cardinal. And so the morning and I'm past the middle of the night, like one in the morning think I went home finally that day At like five in the morning. The kids came in at seven. I honestly can't remember how we told them. I'm sure they remember how we told them.

Speaker 3: 22:35

So my daughter went outside and sat on her trampoline and she was crying And all of a sudden she comes in the house and she's just yelling bloody murder, like grandma's here, grandma's here, grandma's here, and I'm like what is she talking about? There was a cardinal that landed on the trampoline and was sitting right next to her. See, i mean, may have even, i can't remember, may have landed on her, but it didn't fly away, just stayed with her. And then this cardinal hung out at her house for like the next couple of days And we would just try to leave, to go drive down the street and the cardinal would land in the middle of the road and wouldn't move. Yeah, it was like I'm here, i'm here. So it was very validating And it was just such a comfort to know that, okay, she is, she's keeping her word, she's going to bring through those signs and let me tell you they came through nonstop for a good few weeks, which helps, right, it helps that healing process for sure.

: 23:38

It does. I remember In one reading and I don't even think it was necessarily mine, but was one of my sisters you said that my mom will come as a through, as a bird a lot, and I distinctly remember a time I was sitting in my sister's backyard with her and a hawk landed maybe 10 feet from us, like in her her. Her fence is not tall like it wasn't like up on a tree or whatever and it just stayed there And looked at us and I just remember thinking to myself that's mom, that's yeah because that is so unusual.

: 24:13

Like hawks don't typically land. You know, right on a low fence and just hang out like it was there. And it was stayed there for I Mean I don't remember exactly how long, but to me I took that as a clear sign like there, there she is, she's here with us letting us know. So really I, i just think we remember obvious obvious.

Speaker 3: 24:34

It was obvious. You know what I mean. Like she made sure, like it wasn't just a tiny bird that showed up. It's like I'm here, here we go, you get a hawk.

Speaker 3: 24:44

Yes, yeah, and and spirit does typically manipulate or use nature, whether it's deer or anything in a butterflies, dragonflies, bears, can be anything that's in nature as a way to Validate their energy. And if this is something you know, any of your listeners experience something that I, the indigenous people, really wrote a lot about animal totems or power animals. If you have an animal that shows up a lot definitely kind of these days you can search that Through Google and just put in. You know, let's pretend it's a deer animal, totem deer And see what that means. But if you see the same animal, quite often in nature, it's usually someone that is in spirit Trying to touch base.

Speaker 3: 25:39

And the reason spirit can manipulate nature is because one Nature is so connected with both non physical world and physical world. They are not, as a species, skeptical, judgmental. They don't have, they don't have an ego like us, right, they're not going to explain it away. That's why our dogs or cats that we have in our homes Often will look at something in the corner and bark at it, but you don't see anybody there, right Right, look up at the ceiling, or you know this, i hear about this all the time And it's because they don't have an ego. That goes well, there's nobody standing there, there's nothing there. No, they go, there's somebody in the corner there And sometimes that spirit could then say so to your dog go sit in mom's lap. And Dog comes over and gets in your lap and maybe whine, is like you know, okay, somebody's here.

Speaker 3: 26:37

And so, with that being said, out in nature, the spirit manipulates nature to come to you. So it doesn't mean, like your mom becomes, say, a hummingbird, it means that your mom or your dad or your grandpa or your best friend can manipulate that energy through love to to come to you right, like, go to the feeder or go fly in her face, get up there, and you know so. Of course They don't use words like that, but it's just sending that love, energy to that, to that animal, to that creature, and sending it to you. And then, when it comes to you, if you're open and aware, to sign the first, say a name, or energy that comes to your heart, like oh, i feel like this is my best friend. I Feel like this is my grandma.

Speaker 3: 27:28

Then that's who it is and you don't question it, that that's so important because your soul is in tune, whether you realize it or not, and knows So. But what will happen is that person say, oh, that was my best friend, or I felt like that was for my grandma. Then I go, here comes ego. I don't know, maybe it wasn't even a sign, or maybe it wasn't, you know. But no, listen, it is, that's who it is and your first gut feeling, your intuition, knew who that was. You have to go with it And then just be grateful for it.

: 28:02

Yes, yes, gratitude, you know in gratitude, absolutely Yeah.

Speaker 3: 28:10

And when you validate those, these signs, or you validate that you're being guided And you, once they thank you and chew you know. So, when you're saying thank you, but you're, but it's, it's like you're, you know, it's no different than someone that is living, that you, you validate them, you just say or you affirm and say thank you, i appreciate you, that person's more likely to show up for you again. Same thing in spirit. You thank them, you you say hey, i know that was you, i know you sent me that hummingbird. Guess what they'll do it again.

: 28:42

So, and always when you most needed, i find I some, i mean when you're I find that as You face challenges and do things, there's a way spirit comes through and helps, helps you, let's you know that you're not going through what you're going through alone.

Speaker 3: 28:57

Yeah, yeah, and that's there. That's part of their job, right? So there's this religious belief. You know, we're taught in different religions that we don't bother the dead. They're gone, they're with whatever you may have been. But let's just use Jesus right, like they're with Jesus, leave him alone, don't call him up, don't, don't, don't dredge up the dead or don't. That's not true. They're, they're just non physical energy. They're all done doing the physical thing here. There's working on the other side and they're living, but they have more than one world. They're physical world and not physical world, which is even beyond our understanding. No one here is ever going to. I don't think we will ever channel, you know, and I believe there's many channelers out there that can tell you about different worlds or different dimensions and paradigms and all this, but we're never going to have the full. They're just never going to have that whole understand, that whole spectrum. We're just not going to.

: 29:53

So Not as a human, because we view it with a human lens. You know exactly.

Speaker 3: 30:00

Yeah, you're right, it is. It is a human lens, and human lens has ego, no matter how you cut it, and so ego's job is to. It's job really is survival skills. It allows fear to come up to go. May maybe don't go into that Section of the woods. There's a bear there. You know, sure, ego definitely has purpose. But we, as time has gone on, have definitely taken it to The un-degree, but I forgot what I was even talking about there.

: 30:33

We were talking about signs, validations from spirit, and I think this goes into. I mean, it's just Spiritual gifts and I think we, a lot of people, have them. Do you want to talk a little bit about what the spiritual gifts are and you know maybe how people might be able to start to recognize How they receive messages? because I do believe that Everybody is connected and everybody. I feel like some people like you are born with it turned on And that's part of your path, and some people just discover it later. They have that's part of their path and it's like a muscle, just like anything. Nobody like you're training for a marathon. You don't go for like one run. You do it over a period of time and you Cross train and you do all these different things and I think Spiritual gifts and connecting with divine creator and source is the same way to develop and grow. You have to do certain things over and over again, oh for sure, i mean.

Speaker 3: 31:32

Once I realized I'll and I'll just say this about myself once I realized That, okay, i'm definitely a medium, this is certainly a gift and do I want to use this for the greater good? Yes, i do. What do I need to do now? and it was to practice. Right, it was like I had to kind of Study, i had to research a little bit within and I used Spiritualism and the support of a spiritualist church actually, and my community And a development circle right. So I met with people on a regular basis plus meditated at home on a every day and practice, and it was a focus to really align With these abilities and gifts that I had to help other people. So it wasn't just like, oh you know, like these, these abilities, and now just go out and use them. Now. That's not the way it worked. I mean, i had to Hone in, tune them in for sure. But, yes, does everyone have them Absolutely?

Speaker 3: 32:30

And here is why, again, you are spirit for soul, energy, extension of creator, who is pure energy, pure love, and you are a direct extension of that. You come into the physical body. You are not meant to necessarily remember all of that, but it can be reignited and it is turned on, tapped in, tuned in, if you will, when it's time for you, and there are different ways and that we connect with non-physical energy and through using our physical vessel. And so the main ways Are clairvoyance, which is clear scene, clear audience, which is clear. Hearing, which is clear hearing. Clear sentience, which is clear feeling, and clear cognizance, which is clear knowing. Many, many people are Feelers, clear, sentient and and clear, cognizant, clear, they know things. And so the way this works is I have a feeling someone might say I have a feeling I shouldn't go on this trip. Something doesn't feel right, they don't listen to it, they go on the trip and everything goes wrong. Right, so they were getting the message, but they're not aware of getting the message. So they might at that point say, well, i knew I shouldn't have went. You know, which is also part of the clear cognizance, the clear knowing Also.

Speaker 3: 34:06

Sometimes, clear knowing can be something you can't explain. You just know something you don't know how. You know what you could say to a friend I know you're sad, i just know you're sad. No, no, i'm fine. Well, i know that you're sad, I, you know, i can also feel it. And then they start to open up. Well, you know this is happening, or. And then the truth starts coming out. So you can't explain why. You're new, you just knew.

Speaker 3: 34:34

People also do this with a house. They buy a new house, they walk in, they can go to 20 houses. And then you know with their realtor, and then they go into one house and they just walk in the door and go this is it. Well, how do you know? You haven't even been through the house yet. I don't know, i just know. And then they go through the house and then they're signing the papers. They just know. That's clear cognizance.

Speaker 3: 34:56

So people use these two the feeling I have a feeling, or I just know all the time and don't realize those are part of their spiritual gifts. Their soul is talking to them, talking to their physical being, the brain, and often aren't realizing that it is coming from that creator, that extension, that co-creation energy. Clear audience is also, i feel like, pretty common. Just a lot of people do not tend to realize that they're clairvoyant. So dreams are such a you know.

Speaker 3: 35:35

If you're already a vivid dreamer, i do suggest you know getting a decent dream book and a dream journal and writing them out, because you can get visions. Because when you sleep, when you're asleep, you're on the other side working Yes, astral travel, astral travel, yeah. So when you come back into your body and you're remembering these dreams, hurry up and write them down, because you know you don't remember them after five minutes, 10 minutes. You start to forget things, but you'll see a pattern and there'll be a story there. So clairvoyance can be in that way And you know also visions of things. I don't. I'm so clairvoyant that I don't know what it's like to not be clairvoyant. So it's hard for me to give examples. The average person, but I do believe if you're a very visual person, you love colors or you can do a guided meditation and visualize the white light coming in or the purple light surrounding you, or you see angels with you, then you're clairvoyant. That's a natural ability and you can work on growing that and using it to your benefit.

Speaker 3: 36:44

And with clear hearing or clairaudience, that's a tough one. It's also pretty common, but it's a hard one to help people wrap their minds around because so a lot of clairaudience. People have a huge connection to music, very sensitive to sound, like a sensitive to vibration. If you go somewhere and you feel overwhelmed by the sounds like people talking like in a grocery store. I can't. I really don't like the grocery shop And I haven't most of my life because I'm so hypersensitive to hearing people talk in an aisle, listening to the music playing in the background, hearing the can drop in the other aisle That you're hypersensitive to hearing.

Speaker 3: 37:28

But the way clairaudience works with coming through with messages is often it comes through in a thought and it's in your voice. It's not always a spirit coming through, like your spirit by going Sean, to all turn left at the stop sign, do not listen to your GPS. Right, right, right. It's getting to the stop sign and me going, hmm, getting a thought like I really feel like I shouldn't listen to the GPS, that I need to turn left. And then I might be hearing a thought that says just turn left, just turn left, just turn left. Now say I don't listen, i listen to GPS and GPS turns right and I turn right And next to you know I'm at a you know no outlet, that end road, oh damn it, i should have turned left. My clairaudience was telling me turn left, yeah, but it just comes through as a thought And that's a hard one for people to wrap their mind around.

: 38:25

Sure, cause you're not actually hearing it. But I think when they hear clairaudience they think that it's like Moses on the mountain you're hearing the voice right, So I think that's what people think with clairaudience, But my understanding of it is like it's almost like a telepathic way of communicating.

: 38:41

And you know, and it is your own voice And it's something that that's kind of the way that I understand it. I mean, i don't know that necessarily the best way to understand it, but I think when people hear clairaudience they think it's like Moses on the mountain hearing the voice. But it's not really necessary, it's not. It's not that I don't know, but it's hard to understand.

Speaker 3: 38:59

It's not most of the time. One thing for me, one of the elements I'm most connected to is water, and so water brings clarity, whether I like it or not. So if I'm washing dishes or, you know, washing my hands, usually dishes, though, because you know your hands are in the water longer I will start and I'm not trying to get anything, but I will start getting messages, and the message may be something and I'm just thinking this I need to call so-and-so, i need or. It can be something so simple, like you know. It doesn't have to be like some revelation, right, it can just be a guide, because our clairs guide us in our life And it comes from our higher self, and our higher self is part of us, which is connect. It is the soul self which is connected to creator right To, and we are an extension of that. And then creator has all these helpers right That are out there, angels and plus your loved ones that are your animals, that are past like all of anything in non-physical. They're working with you, they're guiding you.

Speaker 3: 40:11

I always joke around, we're not that smart, we're just constantly channeling. But a reminder of something can I? can have my hands in water and let's say I forgot to pay the electric bill, like it was due four days ago and I knew four days ago I needed to pay it, but I didn't pay it. I'm washing dishes, washing dishes. All of a sudden I'll hear you didn't pay the electric bill and I'll go oh my gosh, you didn't pay the electric bill. That's a clear. I'm again. That's just a simple clear. I'm not message My soul, just going, hey sister. But I'm doing something that's meditative, right, like I'm clearing the energy. I'm not running around doing this, doing that, answering calls.

: 40:47

I'm in sort of a meditative you're in a theta state when you do that sort of stuff. So it's like that's why I know a lot of people will get messages in the shower, because you're in a theta state When you're vacuuming, any sort of like activity that you don't, you're not actually having to think about because you've done it a million times. So you're kind of in that theta state of mind and then I think when you're in theta, that is where you can more easily connect and get message. Yes, absolutely.

Speaker 3: 41:20

You know, i was thinking like my mom always loved, loved to. I mean, she, she's still funny, oh gosh, that woman but she loved to mow the lawn, push, push mow. She enjoyed it, but she would get so much clarity during that time. Of course, back then I didn't know it was theta waves, but that's exactly what was happening. She was a very earthy individual. She just always loved to be outside gardening but loved she would not let anybody mow the lawn.

Speaker 3: 41:48

It's like this mindless state that you get into Showers. I don't sometimes love to take showers because so many messages come. You know, sometimes I just don't want them. Yeah, like, sometimes I just want to be disconnected, which isn't really healthy, but it's the truth. Water everyone let me just say this, everyone has an element that their physical nature, their physical body is connected to, and it's either, you know, it's water, it's earth.

Speaker 3: 42:19

Those are the two major air, of course, which you can just get going for a walk right And getting fresh air. Messages will come. Fire can be laying out in the sun. So any of those people that love, love, love to lay out in the sun and just relax, they're connected with fire, energy. Or maybe they are the people that I always have these at my retreats. Right, we build fires and I always have the same people that are like the firekeepers. That is their connection. But when you connect with the elements, whatever your element is, it's a great way to hone in and just kind of get out of the way and allow messages to come through, whether it's through feeling, through visions, through hearing or, again, just knowing. And if we all just would utilize these innate abilities on a regular basis, we would have such a peaceful world.

: 43:17

Yes, we would, and I think the messages and how things come to you is, i think, can be different culturally. That's why there are all these different spiritual belief systems. I think a lot of times people just culturally connected to different things, but I do believe it's all the same. Everyone's trying to find a pathway to source the creator and what their deepest connection is, and for some people that's four walls and they go into the building. But other people your mom, this is what came into my mind when you were talking about that was her way of connecting. It's like that was her church, like that was her going to church.

Speaker 3: 43:57

It was, it was, and oh, my mom, i mean, she was a very spiritual woman. Your mom was too Right, Like she, yeah, but Earth was definitely her church And she used all the elements Maybe not water as much with my mom, but she loved fire, she loved the earth and loved. She walked every day. But also my mom could sit down with her tarot cards, her rosary, her Methodist church. She ran up prayer chain. My mom ran up prayer chain for the Methodist church. My mom did a rosary with the nuns on the channel like whatever channel that is, like PBS or something like that She would do. She had all these different modalities she connected with, but she was also a tarot reader And then she'd have like different. She was really into herbs.

Speaker 3: 44:49

My mom was and I consider myself a green witch you know cause we label everything today but my mom was definitely a green witch And she would make up these recipes of she gardened and she would grow all these different herbs And then she would dry them and put them together and be like put this in the fire. When you're, if you're going through a hard time, just add some of this to the fire or brew some of this on the stove, almost like a potpourri after you do your prayers, or she was just so. She was a really old soul And she died young. I mean she was 53, but she just had so much spiritual connection And she felt a huge. She had a huge relationship with Jesus. My mom did She. She was definitely okay, yeah, yeah. But you know, she wasn't afraid to think outside of the box And she was very psychic.

Speaker 3: 45:41

And back in the early 70s when I think the writer weight tarot cards kind of hit the scene pretty big, her friends because my mom was, quote unquote very psychic Her girlfriends went out and got her tarot cards because it was like hey, you can they bomb, do it, you can do this. Like yes, you're the real deal. And she was. She was very well known. I mean it was not unusual for me to come home from school or my brother to come home from baseball practice or whatever it was, and find people sitting around the table getting the cards on. And she was really. That was her way of channeling spirit. It was like her go-between between the two worlds. That was just her way to the medium. But some people use tools.

Speaker 3: 46:24

And there's, they work, i don't know. you know they're real for sure.

: 46:30

Yes, i just think tarot has a bad rap, like it's the. So in a religion, they have these, like these notions, and I do think it's about control And even, i think, labeling like which, like this, that the next thing, like you know that it has such a negative connotation And I think that it's a lot because, you know, i saw something that really made me think the stuff that happened with, like a Salem witch trials and all those different things And it's and the whole point of the meme was why didn't anybody think that the people burning people were the crazy ones And you know, and that really like spoke to me. It's like, yes, something's wrong with this picture And it's probably not the person on the little bug thing that they built to light them up.

: 47:21

So I thought that was just such an interesting perspective on briefing And I think a lot of what is out there it's just to make people think a certain way.

Speaker 3: 47:33

Oh yeah.

: 47:34

My son. He said something to me about, well, the Bible said this is bad and the Bible this, and I wanted him to think about things. So what I said to him was I said okay, well, let me tell you a couple of things about the Bible. It's a very censored book. There's so many things that have. There's how many versions. There's a million versions. And there's books that certain people along the line said nope, can't read this, can't read that, you know. Blah, blah, blah, and this isn't important, or nobody can see this. And I said to him I said all I want you to do is to think. Why would somebody say this is all you're allowed to read, yes, and he sat there and he's like oh, okay, yeah, i said they're trying to get you to think a certain way. If you're only allowed to read, you know this, this and this. Well, you're going to draw your conclusions and your things from that. But if you read other things and you're open to other things, you know you might think it will expand your.

: 48:31

I think it will expand your consciousness and maybe make you think about things in a different way And that's all I really wanted him to take from that conversation was to think about why they're saying those things and that maybe you shouldn't be putting all of your all out of stock in that, i guess.

Speaker 3: 48:48

Absolutely, absolutely. You know we could talk for hours about just over time, thousands of years, of how control and religion was. the church was created to control I mean to control and run a certain narrative And it was used in many ways as a fear base, right, like to control and to cause fear. That doesn't mean that it's patrons, it's people, were fully immersed in believing through nothing more than pure love and pure intention. But the top tier of that church, or the top tier of whoever was writing the Bible and then changing the Bible and taking books out of the Bible and chapters out of the Bible, all of them, all the means of control.

Speaker 3: 49:40

And that's why witches I mean witches, quote unquote witches were nothing more than more than people women typically, some men, definitely men too, that have knowledge about healing, especially right, like they were medicine women, medicine men, and they were respected. you know they were. they were the ones helping people come into the world. They were the ones helping people heal, the ones helping them die, and it came down to a few people coming together and going why do they know so much? How do they know so much? Where are they getting this information? They're not getting it from us or from what we're setting out there. You know, this is, this is coming from some other place and we're going to call it evil, and we're going to call it bad and and and we're going to dub that. And if they do this anymore, even though we've utilized their abilities and gifts for eons and held them on a pedestal, you know really going, going back and back and back. I mean eons or eons or mediums were, you know, definitely put on a pedestal.

: 50:45

They were Sure think about the oracles of Delphi, right? Yeah, that's what just came into my mind. You know the oracles of Delphi and you know this is something exactly that's been throughout history. The Egyptians had temples and you know ways of communicating. And, yeah, how about the spiritual connections? even all across the earth, there's pyramids everywhere. Yes, oh yes, everywhere. And like metal structures.

Speaker 3: 51:11

Yes, Yes, and you know I'm finding thing I just saw. You know I live in Michigan. I just saw and I'm very passionate about the Great Lakes just saw something. This I guess this was found a couple of years ago, but they basically found a Stonehenge at the bottom of Lake Michigan And they're saying it's 9,000 years old. 9,000 years old. It's a lot of times when I think way, way back. I think of Vikings times. You know Vikings had many different gods.

: 51:41

Yes.

Speaker 3: 51:42

They were so connected to the elements, they were so connected to spirit. They were, of course, a dumbed evil and witches and all of this. But okay, so what is that? Two or not 2,000, but like 3,000 years ago, we could really go back with the Vikings. and well, two to 3,000 years ago This is 9,000 years ago There were humans that created a Stonehenge type. So, yeah, it's just really all about control. And to your point with that meme, it's like I see that in today's times and I do not watch the news and I don't follow, i can't anymore. Same, yeah, i just I can't. but when I do get bits and pieces, i think to myself how are people, how are the average people still listening? They're the people, they're the ones. that's like why, to the witch, quite? and it's like why aren't we questioning who is burning all of these people? That's what's happening now. That's who's running, say, our world, our countries is. they're just burning people, and why are we letting them?

: 52:48

Yes.

Speaker 3: 52:49

It's the same thing over and over And but the positive in this and thank you for doing this podcast in general, because people are being enlightened and they are awakening, they are elevating, it's happening, so you're a part of that by doing this podcast, for sure, thank you. We need more of that.

: 53:14

I just love talking about spiritual things and it's on my journey. It's really what's helped me. I just I'm very passionate about people learning about energy, about connecting the source, and that there are no wrong ways. How you connect is there's nothing wrong with, and you don't have to fit into anyone's. I always say be who you are, be who you are and, apologetically, you don't have to fit into anybody's way of thinking. You can connect how you want, teach your children how you want, and I don't think I think we all have to stop sitting in judgment. I think that is a huge issue.

Kelly Matthews: 53:47

Oh, yeah, You know these people and they.

: 53:50

You know, everyone wants to judge another person And I just think that, instead of judging, maybe we just need to understand, we need to try to understand and try to see things from a different point of view. Yeah, i think that's a huge, huge piece of it, but yeah, it's just so. I'm thanking you for being here. I am so honored to have you as a guest.

Speaker 3: 54:10

You're welcome.

: 54:11

Really, you've been such a huge part of my journey And I do believe also that when the person is ready, the teacher will appear. And that can be many different teachers for people And I do Reiki and I had this realization that Reiki came across me, my radar I didn't even know what it was a few years ago, I was like I had no clue what it was, but I'm learning it and using it has completely transformed my life.

: 54:41

I had this realization. That was because Reiki is was a way for me to understand energy and spirits and connection, And that was going to be my starting point And then I'm going to just evolve from there. You know, however, I do and had some moments of clarity and that came through to me. That was why Reiki is actually a very good way for other people who are new to understanding what energy is, how it can be changed. You know, energy can never be created nor destroyed.

: 55:16

It's only transformed And I think that that is such a powerful way understanding your energy systems in your body and how that actually works with the physical systems, your endocrine system. I don't know all the names because I'm not very medical, but I do know the system.

Kelly Matthews: 55:32

It's all connected.

: 55:34

Yes, and meridians and all that sort of stuff, and it's very so. I knew that that came. I had that realization that that was and it's a way of understanding the world and it just sort of opens your eyes and it can take people any which way. But I think it's really important to connect and understand and just see things from a higher perspective.

Speaker 3: 55:55

Well, we're all energy And we all know that. And even if you don't believe in spirit energy of any sort, you do know that you are a body of energy and it needs food and it needs water right to keep your heart moving and your brain working. And so even just having that little bit of knowledge is just enough to eventually get you started in understanding how big your energy is and it can move you eventually, as your guides guide you, to understanding the body, mind, spirit, continuum.

: 56:33

And step again to your power.

Speaker 3: 56:35

Yes, yes, you know how you show up is always based on your energy, or how you move through the world. You can either move through it constantly tripping over obstacles, or you can move through it more fluidly, seeing that those are really just opportunities and that's just all energy based, and we have to take care of our energy. You know, just like we have to drink enough water and eat the right foods and go you know walk or you know exercise we need to meditate, we need to connect with our higher self, with spirit. We have to find that balance to really make the vehicle run on all its cylinders correctly, does that?

: 57:26

make sense. It does Just like when you are dirty and you take a shower. You feel better. Same thing with meditation. You go through the whole day. You could have had a very stressful day or you know, whatever the things I mean, we are constantly having energy exchanges. You take that time and you connect. You feel so much better, you feel lighter, you feel clear, a clear way of thinking. Sometimes you can.

: 57:53

We all have those days where we have heavy hearts or we have everybody and in no matter how you get, no matter how involved you are, that's still going to happen. But the thing is, as you change and you grow, you have more tools in the toolbox. So when those things happen, you will say, okay, what do I need to do? And you will pick. You know you're going to open your toolbox and you're going to take that thing and you're going to go do it and it's going to help you. It's going to help give you clarity. You're going to connect with that. You're going to connect with your higher self, your guides, and you're going to be able to navigate the world.

: 58:23

I say it's hard to human because it is hard to human Being in a human body and experiencing things through human lens, it can be very challenging and also rewarding. There's so many beautiful things about life and I think people need to understand and remember that too, like there are so many gifts. Even when there are challenges, challenges, in a way, are a gift. It's just looking at it that way because something isn't meant for you, right, but it's still, you know, like it may not feel that way when it happens, but then maybe hindsight later, you think back and say you know what that really was a gift from spirit to help me to move on into this different direction. I just think that's part of the journey here.

Speaker 3: 59:06

Yeah, it's happening for me. It's not happening to me. You lose the victim mentality.

: 59:12

Yeah, you have to, because if you stay in a state of victimhood and that's not to say that bad things don't happen to people sometimes you are a victim in a situation. Yeah, that can happen, but you have to move out of that state of mind because it's not an empowered state of mind. The only way to move forward, to change your situation, to release and heal, you have to move into an empowered state and say, okay, this happened to me, but it's not going to define me, it's not who I am, it's just something that happened. And what did I learn from that situation?

Speaker 3: 59:43

And sometimes just looking at it and going, okay, this was part of my sole contract where it wouldn't have happened. Why is this in my contract? What am I supposed to be getting out of this? What is the reason for this? And a lot of times it just comes down to there are certain aspects of our sole contract that tend to repeat.

Speaker 3: 1:00:04

One of them is forgiveness, because forgiveness is so attached to love And the whole reason we are here really. I mean, if you were just a really really break it down again source is non-physical energy And we come here to experience for source in a physical sense, so it's like non-physical energy is pure love. We come in to experience for creator. We're just running around here experiencing for creator, for source energy, which part of that is Mother Earth, right, so it's all connected. But we are here and we are supposed to be right, experiencing it from a place of love and what goes with love joy, passion, harmony, peace, any compassion, empathy, anything you can think of that is love-based, right. That is really our purpose. That's our simple purpose. Every sole contract is at the top is a purpose, and the purpose is to experience for creator through love, and we get so off balance from that through fear, right, and that fear can really, i guess, debilitate us. And if we can just look at our sole contract, no matter what's happening, go, okay. What is the main thing I'm supposed to learn here?

Speaker 3: 1:01:30

Let's say we have a car accident, our car smashed up. We just bought it brand new. Oh my gosh, i didn't buy the gap coverage. I'm screwed. Why is this happening? It's not the universe how to get you? It's not creator, how to get you. There is a step back and go. What is the real? what can I do to love myself more in this situation? Well, maybe you have a repeated pattern of living in fear over money. Right, and now is an opportunity to release yourself from that and let spirit take care of you. And guess what? Oh my gosh, you did buy the gap coverage. You didn't even know it. Or?

Speaker 3: 1:02:05

all these little gifts and blessings come along, so it's like and you learn to love yourself through that and forgive yourself like there's so many, no matter what we go through There. if we just kind of dig down Like what is the purpose, what is the reason or why am I repeating this pattern here in this body? Why is this repeating and how can I set myself free? We're gonna check this off on my soul contract and just be done with this Repeated lesson type of thing.

: 1:02:33

Yes, i think self-love is a huge portion of that, because I don't. I don't think loving ourselves is taught appropriately or well, and The greatest love of your life should not be another human being. The greatest love of your life should be yourself. That's where it begins and I think that is the great. That should be your greatest love. And then, and you got to fill yourself up first. I know especially like it's busy moms. We all know we don't put ourselves first a lot of the times and you know, sometimes people think you know taking care of yourself is, or self-care, selfish. It is not selfish. You have to fill your vessel first because if you are not Doing that, then you are not giving your best version of yourself to everything else you know.

: 1:03:15

So I think yeah yeah, learning to love yourself for all that you are, for the good and the bad right Not that there's, you know, but like there's all things about ourselves, oh, and we just have to learn to love and accept that.

Speaker 3: 1:03:28

Yeah, definitely. It's interesting that I agree. Especially a lot of females go through this where they don't start to learn Really. If you get married and you have children and have this family and probably have a career, because it's unusual For the average couple to not have both have meeting to work, right, it's hard to you got to have a two-family or two person income, whatever, but often in 30s, 40s, 50s that women start to finally start loving theirself right, like women that come to my retreats are often 30s, 40s, 50s and on. Like I don't get a bunch of 20 year old, not that I, i mean every once in a while they're on their spiritual path, but it's like this journey to self-love because we are not taught that and you know what else? I Wish there was more out there for men, because men are not taught to love themselves. It's anything most men are taught.

Speaker 3: 1:04:28

Number one Don't you dare cry, don't you dare feel that it's considered weak still in society, which is bullshit. It's just. They're made up male, female. We're made up the same way. We come from creator, we come into this body And we feel and they have clairs to and they just, and it just drives me crazy that men are not more supported in This process. And another thing that happens like. So women we get caught up in all. They're taking care of the house and the kids and the adiata for the most part not that men don't do that, but men are just forced into be providers, to be the breadwinner, right, like that's still an energy. And so then they don't learn to love themselves because they're too worried about making sure that paychecks big enough And not missing a day at work. Yeah, so we have a lot to work, a lot of work to do to elevate and enlighten. Seriously picked a better, better name for your podcast.

: 1:05:28

Thank y ou. I I want to be so mindful of your time and then I'm so grateful for the time that you've spent with us today. Is there any closing thoughts?

Speaker 3: 1:05:36

final things, something you want to share with everybody, so something that I've kind of had on my mind is definitely the way the world is changing on a Physical level. So the earth, right, we're noticing a lot. Where I can't speak for other places But, like where I live, we just got our first ring rain and Over. I believe it's been 40 days We haven't had any rain and then we were dealing with you know There's always fires in Canada and I know a lot of the United States has been getting. You know the smoke and the air quality We have.

Speaker 3: 1:06:12

You know the Sun is putting out so many more solar flares. If you follow that and If you don't follow solar flares something that I think people It might seem woo-woo and I'm skeptical of a lot of things, believe it or not, even though, being a medium people, what I think you wouldn't think like that I just believe in. I don't. I mean I I really Have to have a lot of information, knowledge and research. And you know these solar flares, anything going on for years Okay, in fact, the worst in history haven't even happened this year actually, but we're having them more frequently and they affect our physical body. So these solar flares, just like the Sun, grows, helps grow our food and And gives us vitamin D to our body to have a stronger body. The solar flares are affecting our sleep, they're affecting our mood, they're affecting, can cause pain in your body, and so what I think is happening is it's such a high Vibrational what I'm kind of getting from my guide and it's almost like such a high vibration and we as a people mean globally.

Speaker 3: 1:07:24

I've really been an ego since I I mean for years, but let's just use like then Let's just go back to Kobe, right, a lot of ego there, a lot of fear-based energy. So we have this imbalance, major imbalance going on in the world and that affects the earth energetically. And we're seeing this energy Continuum, right like we're seeing this. It's like a swirling of like all this fear-based and ego energy on such a global scale, right like their media. And Then the earth is changing. The earth's gonna change anyways. I mean, it's been around forever and but but it's going through major changes and our energy if we're talking about energy affects Not just each other, but it affects the earth.

Speaker 3: 1:08:15

And So I think that and believe that one of the ways to handle all of this intensity will call an intensity is Meditation Just, even if it's three or four minutes a day of just getting quiet, bringing yourself back to center, calling all the parts back to yourself because, you know, the moment you wake up in the morning, your feet hit the floor And you're answering calls, answering texts, running kids to school, throwing a load of laundry, planning dinner, driving to you know to work, paying bills, dropping off the dog, go on and on and on right your whole day, just taking three, four, five minutes to come back to center, to come back to source and bring in the light and love of a creator and Call on your angels, your loved ones in spirit.

Speaker 3: 1:09:03

You can also, you know, do guided meditations. I love the insight timer app. As you know, i love insight timer of user for years. I'm a big supporter of it. I pay for the app, but it is free and it's cheap to pay for, but They have courses to if you pay and it's like you said.

: 1:09:22

It's like 60, some bucks a year And there are so many courses.

: 1:09:26

Oh my gosh that you can take if you don't even know how to meditate. You want it, you don't know how, and you want to learn. They have this thing, that they I mean and not just one like there are whoever speaks to you, because, yes, because you resonate with certain teachers and people, and I believe that's why there are so many is Because there's 7.9 billion people on the planet and they just have to find whoever they resonate with or whatever they resonate, you know, and that's why we connect on different ways And those classes are never more than 15 minutes, typically 15 to 18 minutes.

Speaker 3: 1:09:59

I mean, everyone has 15 to 18 minutes because most people sit down and scroll their tick tock Instagram and Facebook for an hour. So sure, have 15 minutes and but you don't even have to. So just you know. Meditating, whether it's through guided meditation again, if you're not even familiar with what guided meditation is, youtube has it, you can Google it, it's on. There's all kinds of apps. I just prefer insight timer.

Speaker 3: 1:10:25

But just taking even three to four minutes a day to meditate is going to change your energy. It's going to then affect, because everything's energy, earth energy. It's going. You know, we're all connected. It's going to reach out on a global level. And if we could all do that, even if it's just prayer, sit in prayer. I don't get calling your saints, your angels, you know. If, whatever your belief system is, sit in that for three to five minutes and it will, i'm telling. I believe so much that it would change the energy of not just us on a global level, but individually, but it will help our earth and We'll just have a better Experience all around. I'm just, and and of course, meditation helps you, develop your, your Claire's, if you're wanting to use that for yourself, whether that's for yourself, to you know, develop your Intuition. Or if it is to you know, develop your intuition to help other people, whatever it is. So, meditate. I'm really big on pushing meditation. Right now, i'm a meditation pusher.

: 1:11:32

Yes, no, i think it's great and I think, like what you said is, a rising tide Raises all ships. So as we connect, as we grow, we're helping to raise Everything and I have gratitude in my heart for all the people that helped me get to where I am you know Same same.

Speaker 3: 1:11:50

Oh yeah, okay, yep, so Well, thank you. Thank you for having you.

: 1:11:55

Chantal, thank you so much for being here. I have so much gratitude for you and I just think you. You are so amazing. How can our listeners reach out to you? Where can they find you? Let them know.

Speaker 3: 1:12:08

I Do have a group on Facebook. It's mainly for you know, my clients, their family and friends. It's called spirit Haven. So if you would like to join that you're more than welcome. You know where it asks you to Like who referred you. You can just put in my name Chantal ch and ta l. Also on tiktok I do some videos. I think it's Chantel Denise 12, like the number one two, chantel Denise 12. I'm on Instagram. I haven't really been posting much on there like Chantel Denise, full truths as though you L, and then truths I. You can email for reading, although not really taking new clients right now. So it would be, you know, for waiting lists if you're looking for reading. But that is readings at Chantal Denise. Comms spelled C, h, a, n, tal, d, e, n, i S E. So readings at Chantal Denise, calm. So I think that about covers it.

: 1:13:13

Awesome. Well, thank you again. I'm just so grateful.

Kelly Matthews: 1:13:23

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