Enlighten & Elevate with Kelly
Thank you for being here dear soul! My name is Kelly and I am a Reiki Master, mother, wife, and lover of all things spiritual. Come with me on my quest to find tools and knowledge for continued spiritual growth. It can be tough to navigate the world as a human and parent. Dive in with me for enlightenment and ways to empower your life! We will explore many topics such as spirituality, holistic healing modalities, and metaphysics.
Enlighten & Elevate with Kelly
Revealing the Mysteries of Dreams and Intuition with Dr. Michael Lennox!
Hello beautiful souls! Prepare to unlock the mysteries of your dreams and intuition with the fascinating Dr. Michael Lennox, our esteemed guest who brings a wealth of knowledge as a psychologist, astrologer, and dream expert. Discover how your nightly narratives act as a bridge between your subconscious and conscious minds, providing profound insights that can illuminate your life's path. Dr. Lennox shares his expertise on the different states of mind during sleep—alpha, theta, and delta—that allow us to tap into our inherent intuition, encouraging us to embrace the mystical energies that science often overlooks.
In our conversation, we touch on the profound parallels between birth and death and how visitation dreams offer a unique perspective on life's cyclical nature. As we navigate through the whirlwind of daily life, especially for those juggling the chaos of parenting, it becomes clear that finding stillness is paramount. Dr. Lennox reveals practical tips for enhancing dream recall and attaining lucidity, turning sleep into not just a necessity, but a meditative escape. Learn how even fleeting dreams can hold the power to transform your spiritual journey and understanding of significant life events.
Finally, embark on a spiritual adventure that delves into the world of astrology with practical tips for beginners. Dr. Lennox introduces his offerings, from astrology school to dream circles, aimed at empowering your self-exploration and spiritual growth. Whether you're interested in understanding the moon's influence on your mood or keen on participating in collective dream interpretations, these tools are designed to support your journey toward greater spiritual awareness. Join us as we share moving stories and personal experiences that highlight the interconnectedness of our physical and spiritual worlds, leaving you with a renewed sense of purpose and connection.
0:00 Explore Dreams With Dr. Michael Lennox
9:29 Exploring the Cycle of Life
23:33 Journey Through Spiritual Dimensions
36:28 Beginning Astrology
43:34 Astrology School and Dream Circles
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Hello, beautiful Fulth, thank you so much for being here. I am honored that you are on this journey with me. Today's topic is going to be all about dreams. Now, dreams are not random or meaningless. They are a reflection of our subconscious mind, which is a part of our mind that operates below our conscious awareness. The subconscious mind stores all the information that we've ever encountered, as well as our deeper feelings, beliefs and intuition. Dreams are a way for our subconscious mind to communicate with our conscious mind. They can help us process our emotions, solve problems, heal traumas, access creativity, discover hidden aspects of ourselves aspects of ourselves, have communication with loved ones on the other side, or loved ones present, or friends, or come to some realization about our path or purpose. There are some different states that were in our mind when we go into a sleep state alpha, theta and delta. So alpha is like where you're relaxed and drowsy, theta is where you're falling asleep or a light sleep state, and delta waves are a deep sleep state. So we're going to learn all about this how our intuition comes alive in this state and how everyone's intuitive there.
Speaker 1:Now I wanted to recommend something that I'm going to start doing to record the dream, your dreams as soon as you wake up. I've probably heard this before from other people that have a journal or a pad of paper and write down your dreams. That way you can reflect on them. Are there? Do you see recurring themes? Do you see have recurring thoughts or patterns, colors, symbols, things that you might need to research? But dreams definitely bring us some insights into our lives and, since it's a place where we're in a state where our brain can reach our intuition, it is such a beautiful place to discover and connect with our higher self and our spirit team and anything of that nature.
Speaker 1:So definitely enjoy this episode. My guest is so funny and fun and he has a beautiful way of talking about dreams and how they work for us. He also talks about astrology and he has a deep knowledge of that as well, and he gives some tips for people who may not be as familiar to start on their path of learning how to recognize it in their own life. So thank you so much for being here and enjoy this episode. Hello everybody, I'm so excited. Today I have the most exciting guest, dr Michael Lennox. He's a psychologist, astrologer, expert in dreams and dream interpretation podcast, host of the Conscious Embodiment, the author of several books, including his latest book Psychic Dreamer, exploring the Connection Between Dreams and Intuition. Welcome, dr Michael, I'm so excited.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you for having me, Kelly. I'm happy to be here.
Speaker 1:Oh, I'm just. I am so excited I got to tell you how much I enjoy your red robe astrology every morning. Oh, I love that.
Speaker 2:Oh, how awesome.
Speaker 1:So, for those listening that aren't, you've got to follow Dr Michael on Instagram or Facebook or somewhere, because he every morning, he puts on his red robe and he goes through the astrology of the day, which is it's, and it's so awesome, thank you.
Speaker 2:It's so fun and the brand of red robe astrology just came up because I'm wearing my bathrobe, because it's four or five in the morning and everyone is so wild. People are like why is he wearing a bathrobe, otherwise I'd be naked. I'm getting out of bed and the first thing I do after coffee is I outline the astrology for the day and I make a video in my robe with my messy hair. It's very fun.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about your book Psychic Dreamer, where we're talking about dreams and intuition and how we're all intuitive. I loved your book so much.
Speaker 2:Thank you.
Speaker 1:It touched me in so many ways because I think people do have communications in dreams and they can get information through their dreams, just through their life, through imagery, or there's so much there I'm going to let you take it away.
Speaker 2:Sure, the idea that we are all intuitive is something that most humans would agree with, and there's that sense that we all are. But people find it a baffling experience to often tap into their intuition. I like to joke that the still small voice of intuition is really small, so it's hard to hear, and so I think people have challenges sometimes understanding how to tap into their intuition. So one thing that the book starts from the sense of that there's more going on here than meets the eye, that we have very limited perception, even the way we see only little bands of light when there's much more light that's present here we can only perceive a little bit. And there's all of this other dimensional energies that are beyond our perception.
Speaker 2:But that influences that we can feel, that we experience, even like when we have intuitive hits and we feel a little buzz all over our body and our hair stand up, there's like something to that the pure scientists will just say it's the brain and chemistry and through their hubris will dismiss the mystical power of intuition and even the meaning of dreams. But if I'm going to talk about this, we have to start with the presupposition that we accept the idea that there's way more going on here energetically than we are capable of perceiving in our little brains and our little data perceiving. The piece of us that keeps us from tapping into the still small voice is the big, loud voice. That is our identification with who we are, the I am Kelly of you, the I am Michael of us, the person you're talking to in the confines of your mind. And that voice, which is how we navigate, it's how we know when to turn right, when to turn left and how to interact with others is also what we think of as who we are.
Speaker 2:I am, my thoughts, I think. Therefore I am. But a much more spiritual sensibility is that we are these beings of consciousness and our thinking is like a separate added mechanism that's just the narrator of the experience, the thoughts that we are having, and that loud voice is very different than the intuitive, soft, small voice. But when we go to sleep, that voice of reason, that identifying monologue holder, is also asleep, so it's not there to interfere with our ability to perceive things that I would say are multidimensional. So then there's the idea that we have to add right next in this layer would be when we're asleep are we like turned off, and then we get turned on again when we wake up. It feels like that, but that's also an illusion. What's turned off is our conscious awareness and our thinking and narrating mechanism, and that gets fired up when we wake up. It's a freaking miracle. It's a little bit like going towards death and being reborn again just by going to sleep and waking up. But our brain is fully active while we're sleeping. In fact, it's busier sometimes, in a way, during the nighttime than it is during the day, because it's doing all kinds of things in the backdrop to help us clean metabolic waste and formulate short-term memory and all kinds of dizziness. And when we're in REM sleep, the whole frontal cortex is lit up like a Christmas tree, just like when we're awake. So consciousness is asleep, but awareness is not.
Speaker 2:This is why I believe and many mystical, even mystical psychologists like I am believe that because there isn't this interfering rational mind, that in dreams, yes, we connect to these wild, unconscious storyline narratives that are probably reflecting psychic difficulty and conflicts in the a la Freud and Jung in psychology.
Speaker 2:But because we're multidimensional beings and our three-dimensional voice is quiet, then we can reach beyond the veil and have visitations from people who have passed away. Then we can dream of images that are actually fourth dimensional images, of things that have not yet come, in the form of precognitive dreams. Then we can have dreams that someone in the next room that we love and are deeply connected to is having the same dream, at the same time, with the same meaning that they discover because they share their dreams the next morning where someone is passing away, but as they die and leave their body, they'll see me flying around them and visiting all of the brethren and cousins and family members in their dream had two people come down into the kitchen one morning and say I think grandma died and indeed she did. I think we can tap into all of the wild, intuitive, mystical experiences that I think are available to all of us when we're awake, that some human beings with particular gifts and talents for perception can perceive and utilize when they're awake.
Speaker 1:But when we're asleep, all of us are mystics when they're awake, but when we're asleep, all of us are mystics. I love that. Yeah, I love that so much. I think a lot of us we live really busy lives, right, we're running around we're doing the things. It's not often that people have quiet.
Speaker 2:And I know that.
Speaker 1:I, as a, I have three kids and doing all the things, I often don't have quiet, and so sometimes it's uncomfortable for me to be in quiet, and I know that's something that I myself need to sit with, and I probably would get more messages if I was able to sit more in the quiet.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and not only are you managing life, but the world is in an exceptionally chaotic sort of pattern and cyclical moment. Right so it's not just managing your life.
Speaker 2:It's also managing to stay sane and centered when the world is terrifying to be in. And, yeah, those still small moments I think are valuable and beautiful. I have them, but I'm a single dad with a puppy. That's me. I don't like. I'm not married, I don't have children. I've lived a life that is separated apart so I could do the service that I do.
Speaker 2:I yeah, it's three kids, like they're just hearing that Kelly and I go ow what, right. But every time we go to sleep we're having like an eight-hour meditative experience. Right, it may not be something that we're consciously creating like a practice to sit in a chair for 20 minutes, but every night we visit the quiet, we visit the still small spaces and we are refreshed there, in fact in the world of dreams, with you and your chaotic life and three kids and trying to manage it all together. When you go into the still soft what I like to call the sweet death of sleep, you are in fact handling all of the chaos in a really profound way that allows you to wake up the next day and meet the chaotic world refreshed and ready to take on more. So, in that way, the act of going to sleep, and dreaming is like an enormous meditative sort of skill that none of us have to learn.
Speaker 1:Yes, and I love the tips you give, all these tips in the books for people to remember, to start to remember their dreams, because I don't always lucidly remember the dreams that I have, and so I have been doing that exercise where you tell to hold the hands in front of your face at different times of the day.
Speaker 2:Love, that, yeah, and I've been doing it.
Speaker 1:People are like why are you looking at your hands?
Speaker 2:I love to explain why that works right.
Speaker 2:So the idea is you trigger the ability to become lucid in dreams, which is really exciting, and anybody who's had a lucid experience will tell you it's really awesome to wake up in a dream and be like, oh my God, I'm dreaming, and so there's a desire to cultivate that, and so one of the greatest sort of tips around that is and I didn't come up with this, I just share it in the book, it's just part of my journey of learning things is that you look at your hands all day long.
Speaker 2:So the reason why this works is one of the functions of REM sleep is we review everything that's happened during the day in a quantum computing way. The brain goes through all the data collected by the eyes and the ears and the mouth and the nose and the fingers and revisits it all, takes the important stuff, puts it over here called memory, and takes all the rest of the shit and just drops it into the abyss because it's unimportant. That's why you can wake up and receive more data, because you've cleaned the slate, because part of the function of REM sleep is to review the day's data. If you look at your hands every day, maybe 10, 12 times for a bunch of weeks, say I'm making the time up. Actually you're going to see your hand in your dream because of this review of the day's data and that will trigger your awareness in the dream state to be like wow, dreaming, see my hands have it work. Yet it.
Speaker 1:You know what it did? It didn't work. It did, and I and I go through these periods where I can have a lucid dream. I remember and I try to. I haven't. Yet I have a journal by my bed and I need to write down. And write it down because it always is fresh when you wake up, but then it does go away.
Speaker 2:And you're going to wake up thinking I'll never forget this dream. This is too vivid and too clear. Then, 20 minutes later, it's gone. Yeah, it's living in a different part of the brain. That's what it is. We're visual beings humans, right, we have front-facing eyes, right, so we process visually and there's like a section in the brain that processes the eyes receiving of data, and so that's how we know our visual experience, mostly through our waking eyes and that part of the brain that's the ocular processing.
Speaker 2:Dreams are very vivid and visual, but the visions in dreams are being created by the brain at large, interacting with itself, not the visual center, because your eyes are closed, they're not operating, so you're still seeing vision. When you wake up, there'll be the presumption that you're going to remember the visual as if it was something you looked at during the day and said, oh, I'm not going to forget that beautiful house I just drove past. And then later on you're going to be like, yes, it was blue, it was two stories, it had a gable, it was amazing because your eyes remember it. The minute you open your eyes in the morning, that visual cortex lights up and you're filled with the experience of seeing your bedroom and your toothbrush and your coffee pot and the other parts of the brain that have been holding this vivid image of the dream just dissipate and it's gone.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I got to say chapter five, the visitation dreams. So there's so much about that chapter that I want to talk about because so for the second time this week I heard the reference that birth and death are essentially the same thing and it really struck me. But you talk about that in this chapter as well and I think that there's like a fear of death. There's so much fear in that, at least in the Western, I think, part of the world, do you want to? And you talked about like the feminine and then the masculine and how the masculine is part of the day, the feminine is part of the night, and because I know that the just in, like the energy work that I do that like we always consider the left side, the feminine side the right side, the masculine side.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that really intrigued me. But of course, the visitation chapter for reasons of, you know, being able to connect with our loved ones who pass, or animals or what have you and you talk about. I know just the image of a bench or a chair and how that, like, we associate that just in our everyday life with where that's where we do get to slow down and take a breath in a minute.
Speaker 2:Take a pause. Yeah, yes, yep, yep.
Speaker 1:So there's so much in there. Do you want to talk about that?
Speaker 2:First of all, thank you for just reflecting the chapter back to me, because the way you describe it it sounds like really lovely writing that I have.
Speaker 1:Oh, I said that it is really lovely.
Speaker 2:But of course, what's jumping out at me of what you're reflecting back of my words is that everything is cyclical in this way. Right, there's always a binary up and down, day and night, sleeping and waking, birth and death, alive and dead Everything works in a binary. So it's like if I'm talking to people about breath work, I might say breath, it just is. But we can only have breath or a connection to breath if we divide it into two. We're too small, so we have to take it in as an in-breath and breathe it out as an out-breath. So, right, there is an image. If you have even an inkling of spiritual perspective, you can get what I mean when I say.
Speaker 2:Breath is the breath of life, life is, it's a force, it's an energy. That just is and we are that, we are alive. But we have to divide the breath into these two things, just like we can't function as automaton robots that just go and go. We have to live in a binary, and so we have waking and sleeping, and we have this beautiful spin of the earth that allows that, where it's not just us that's sleeping, but the whole earth is sleeping on the far side of her when she's turned away from the sun. So in that regard, birth and death have to be part of the same kind of binary. So the in-breath and the out-breath are different. So that means birth is going to be different than death, but it's still breath, which means it's still a function of that.
Speaker 2:We are here, embodied in consciousness. It's not like the in-breath is good and the out-breath is like some horrible fucking thing we got to do 12,000 times a day. Right? It's as lovely to breathe in as it is to breathe out. I think it's going to be as lovely to leave as it is to come. And then so like the idea of what? Right? Some kind of a worldview, right? So like near-death experiences. If 20,000 people have had near-death experiences and they all describe the same thing, there's got to be something to that.
Speaker 2:I would agree, yeah, so I think that we go into sleep, we're in the night, we're in the feminine, we're in the death space when we're asleep. So we're closer to the ancestor who has passed away when we're asleep than we are when we're asleep. So we're closer to the ancestor who has passed away when we're asleep than we are when we're away. So there's even that idea that we have to be in a sleep state to connect to that other side, that fourth dimension place where our spirits inhabit and our bodies are stuck here in the third dimension. Right. Then we go into this dream state where now we're connected to something that's mysterious that no scientist can describe.
Speaker 2:The mystics understand it. We got to watch out for the scientists. We discover something about brain function and then they dismiss everything else. It's like that area lights up when you're meditating. Therefore, there's no mystical truth to meditation. It's the brain, it's no. That's just what the brain does when it's talking to God. So all of this then connects to this idea that in the binary of day, night, the night is death, the death is feminine, that when we're deeply connected to that place, there's something that opens up mystically where they are and where we are and visit. That's all I know about it.
Speaker 2:Right Like I don't have any more fabulous insight For one reason I'm not dead, and that's where all the information is going to be on that side of it. But when you start to hear dozens of stories and then it becomes dozens of dozens and then it becomes like a hundred dozen. I've been doing this for 30, 35 years listening to dreams, benches was. I think the idea of a visitation dream happening on a bench is a trope. You'd see in a movie, sure, but the reason it's a trope you see in a movie is because 60% of visitation dreams I've ever heard have taken place on a bench. Yeah, okay. So some writer somewhere wrote a visitation scene on a bench and because it's in the psyche, that's where it happens.
Speaker 2:So, again, I'm not a medium. I don't connect myself to the energy of spirits that have left bodies, but I've sat with mediums who were gifted. So, yeah, all of this tells us there's veracity to the idea that we can connect to others. And part of why I wrote the book and wrote that chapter is I want to reach the person, not you. I love that, you love the book, right, but what I mean? Let me be clear. I want that chapter to impact the person who had the dream about grandma and doesn't quite trust the belief they want to surrender to. I love that, because that can be life-changing when you have an undeniable experience that opens you up to the possibilities that are mystical and multidimensional. Sometimes you just need the voice of authority to say yes, this is a thing, don't dismiss it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or you need grandma, right, you need grandma If grandma's not visiting, then you don't need her.
Speaker 2:I hear from people all the time if someone passed and they haven't visited, what does that mean? It's firstly, I don't know why grandma's not visiting. We could suppose that if there's value in the connection that happens after someone passes and it's not occurring, it must be because there isn't a need for it and when it occurs there's value and purpose and shift happens for the living person as a result. But I'm sure it's disappointing when it's like someone passes and you want that dream and it doesn't come.
Speaker 1:I've talked to many people who have been sad that grandma didn't visit yeah and it could be that grandma maybe did visit, but they just don't remember right, it could be that absolutely, and it could be, too, that they're getting other signs from grandma that maybe they're just not paying attention to. There's a really great book written about signs that we get from loved ones, by laura lynn jackson.
Speaker 2:I don't know if you're familiar with her or not but she talks about signs and that we get them all the time from our loved ones, and so I think that, yeah, grandma might be have visited sweetheart, I wish that you and I had a conversation before I wrote the book, because that feels like an important thing to say that I did not say. It's not a thought I've had before. I'm quite that articulately that perception is everything, and just because you don't remember grandma visiting doesn't mean that you have been transformed on your insides by virtue of interacting with her energetically after she's passed. You weren't aware of it, but it happened. I think you're absolutely right.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I did want to say in the chapter you did talk about how this does open people up to spiritual journey and spiritual transformation, which I think is super important. It doesn't necessarily even, I think, have to be a dream that you have with a loved one who passed over. It could just be a dream where you really connect with somebody living. You could be connecting with something in your present life, because that was also a fascinating thing is that dreams we do connect. I have had dreams where I have connected with people who are living and I've never, some of them, I've never, ever asked if we've had the shared dream. I don't know that I've ever had a shared dream experience. I believe that I believe in the possibility and I'm sure that I probably have, but I've just never.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, if you're not talking about it with your community, you're not going to find out what you're talking about. I call big dreams this is a casual sort of moniker for the dream that is really vivid and intense and might involve someone who's alive and feels set apart from a typical dream where you're just visiting thousands of crazy landscapes upside down and all over the place. There are people who've had apocalyptic dreams that felt like big dreams. Right. There are apocalyptic dreams that are just like, oh God, the world ended and it was scary and I woke up. And then there are dreams that people have reported to me that were mystical messages about apocalyptic themes, because they feel different to the dreamer. So when you describe a dream to me, you haven't even described it in detail and I immediately trust that you're absolutely having bona fide, powerful experiences that are not typical dreams, but you connecting with some intelligence that's available to us, but not through the rational mind, and it connects you to big ideas and they show up as profoundly vivid dreams that you remember forever, absolutely.
Speaker 1:And I, in your book, or in the book too, you talk about dreams where it's like dreams within dreams, where that you're dreaming. I've had that happen and I have had dreams where it felt so real, like it felt physical, like with an eye, with a dog that of mine that I had to. He was sick and I had to put him down. And I had a dream and it was exactly like how you describe in your book, like you're, when you awaken your dream, you're in the exact same place where you fell asleep. Yes, and my dog came to me and he I felt him get on the couch, I felt him put his head on my leg and I felt him there. I believe he was there. I know that it was a communication, but I just had to tell you that because it was just and I'm like it just validates the things that we all experience or that people often experience, and that can be something with a loved one too, and I think it's for someone who's not on a kind of path to be looking for such things.
Speaker 2:They might miss the numinosity of that, the outrageousness of it, right, but you had the experience. And there is something profound when you're having a dream and your body is feeling sensation, because that doesn't happen, but when it does happen, it means that there are two things going on, two dimensions working together. That involves the three-dimensional experience of you in your bed feeling the somatic presence of your dog, even though they were past. Yeah, that's a dream apart. That's how we know.
Speaker 2:And in the chapter of Visitation Dreams, I'm sure I tell the story of this man, this lovely young man named John, who I met in a kind of sort of community gathering experience. It wasn't about dreams, I wasn't leading it, I was just in the circle. But I shared something that caused him to come up to me to tell this story and watching him talk about how this dream of he was actually heading down to San Diego to be with his family because grandma had passed and he was falling asleep at the wheel. So he pulled over into a park by the freeway and took a little nap in the car in which grandma visited, and it was so gobsmacking to him that it rocked his world and changed his worldview.
Speaker 2:And when I was talking to him and I was just listening to how he described what happened to him, I was moved because his transformation was fresh. It had recently happened and it was clear by just the way people feel when they're talking about things like that. I could feel that he was changed by this. And then you think about what's that person's life going to be for the next six decades of their life, now that they're aware of the mystical connection of the invisible. It's not just about grandma and people passing. I'll bet that person is in a very different place now, just in how he contextualizes life, because 10 years ago he got put on a slightly different path, because grandma shoved him on that path on the way down to San Diego.
Speaker 1:Absolutely. I love that so much. I love anything that helps us to understand that we are so much more than this human body.
Speaker 2:So much more.
Speaker 1:We are so much more than this. We are just. This is just the avatar that we're wearing for this incarnation. That's what we, and we all, chose it right.
Speaker 2:Yes, when I was a younger guy on the spiritual path, I would roll my eyes at statements like that, even though I got it and I wanted to believe and I wanted to be like a good spiritual guy. But I didn't believe those things until I got older and more integrated and started to have bona fide experiences of numinous out-of-body experiences and work that allowed me to tap into that energy directly. And the thing that I would object to a lot back then was this idea and you said it that we came here at this time on purpose to help. Sure, I almost damaged my eyes rolling my eyes so much at that. It's amazing that they stay centered in my orbital sockets because I can't roll them high enough for that, Except that now I would go to the Inquisition and die under that belief Same numinous perceptions and spiritual moments and hallucinations that come from a spiritual practice or plant medicine that I now, as a 61-year-old man, live an integrated life in relationship to that.
Speaker 2:And it took a long time to get there, but it started as a teenager. Interest in my dreams Wow, that was what got me on the path, because Freud's interpretation of dreams showed up on my mother's bookshelf when I was 15 years old. I picked it up and I read it. Not sure what I got at 15 from reading Freud, but I certainly understood that dreams were profound and valuable and if you talked about them it led you somewhere, because that's what that book was about.
Speaker 1:Absolutely.
Speaker 2:Just would walk into high school hallways and, just like adults in offices around the water cooler. Kids in high school are always saying to each other oh my God, I had the craziest dream last night and I'd be like Tony, what's your dream, let's talk about it. And I'd be like Tony, what's your dream, let's talk about it. And I felt that I had things to say.
Speaker 2:People would say that's so fascinating. That seems really accurate and it's because I had a gift and I followed that gift into my adulthood. But it was because I had the ability to hear a dream reflect back to somebody something intimate about themselves that they nodded and eyes widened in agreement. Like that intimate experience of interacting with people was so satisfying to me and it was centered on this idea that there's this other dimension that we connect to at night. Right that by the time I was an adult in the world, I was already indoctrinated into the path of the person who had to live multidimensionally, and it was in my 40s that I was evolved enough to live in my three-dimensional life daily, connected to that greater life that comes from those other dimensions that we connect to. But man, yeah, it took a long time and I didn't have three kids A long. That's my life and that's my delivery. I got to focus on healing the traumas that I was born into and experiencing life in this way and helping others to do the same.
Speaker 1:Absolutely, and I think sometimes trauma is what puts us on a spiritual path.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, it did for me. Most healing types, healing presence types, are healing that which they healed and helping other people with the same. I was on a hunt this morning with a friend of mine who's a famous actor, smart like someone you if you're old enough, you'd know who she was she's a big star of the 80s, but now she's a doctor of mythological studies.
Speaker 2:Big star of the 80s, but now she's a doctor of mythological studies, right, and she's trying to find her way of like being of service in her sort of awarenesses. So the conversation we were having this morning was literally about that that she has a way she moves through the world that she had to heal, and part of how she did that was through refuge practices that are governed by the Christian mystics and Buddhism, and that's what her doctoral dissertation was about. So now she's in that thing of how do I turn around and help others with this? And that's what we were talking about today. You just follow the breadcrumbs of what you healed. You will now help others heal.
Speaker 2:And I didn't say this to her, but I'll say it here that, though the ministry for all of us as helpers and healers, art is handled by that divine nature, we don't have to worry about that. In other words, the perfect students who want to respond to archetypal work and the way that I work with myths and fairy tales and shadow work, because they're the right students and there's something divine about that and, with my friend, the right people who want to experience refuge, but also love. Mystics and Buddhism the right students will come to her Absolutely. Mystics and buddhism the right students will come to her absolutely. It does start with our relationship to our insides, and dreams are the most internal part of us that we can still actually touch with our conscious awareness absolutely and with your friend.
Speaker 1:I think it's an if you, when you, or the field of dreams is what came into my mind. If you build it, they will come.
Speaker 2:Hey, if you build it, they will come. I got to tell you something when I was creating this business of being a spiritual teacher, I'd just come off a television show on the SyFy network that was ultimately a failure. We shot 65 shows but they only finished 12 of them. And they tried a nighttime rotation and nobody watched. And they tried a daytime rotation and nobody watched. And three months later it was canceled and I was like counting on that to be my life Sure, and the dark night of the soul that came from that was epic.
Speaker 2:But what was born in that moment was this absolute yes, and that first, my yes that this is what I want to be in the world a spiritual teacher, helping people through dreams and astrology and spiritual practice. And because I was on this show, I booked all of these retreats and panel things the year after and every one of them was canceled for lack of registration. I don't make it so that first year out it was like no, but my yes was unshakable and even though there were moments where I was stressed, I was never worried, ever, because I knew if you build it, they will come. And I thought it would take two to four years and it took 10. But I built it and they came. You've done this, haven't you? You're sitting here inviting me to your podcast. You've built something that you have a desire to be of service to people by sharing conversations with your audience, and you built it and I'm assuming they're coming.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I love talking all things spiritual and I've been on a path for probably close to six years now.
Speaker 2:Oh yay.
Speaker 1:And my life has completely changed. I'm a different person than I was when the journey started, and I feel like it's an ever-evolving journey, and I continuously learn and I learn from all types of people, all different levels. It's fascinating all of it, and I learned from all types of people, all different levels. It's fascinating all of it, and I think that there's so many tools out there that we can use, and dreams is a tool.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:That we can use. Astrology is a tool that we can use and I know that you talk about that all the time on your podcast and all the and your the Red Road Astrology segments. That you do is that you're giving people guidance that they can use in their everyday life.
Speaker 2:Absolutely Just to live better.
Speaker 1:And so I wanted to ask you this before we wrap it up here. Just to touch briefly on astrology, which I'm sure you could talk on for hours and hours, but for a beginning person like myself, you know, with the nodes and the degrees and the ascendance and all the things.
Speaker 1:How do you recommend somebody just start to understand what it means to them, and then I know before and then I know it can be related, like you can do it with your children. You can have your children's chart, or your spouse or your partner, or all these things can be layered together.
Speaker 2:Great question. So if we're talking about somebody who has this curiosity and desire but we're not ready to buy a course or devote a lot of time to the business, astrology is dense and if you're not good at structure and left brain things, you won't respond well to the structural piece of astrology it's 50% of it and the other 50 is the interpret piece of astrology. It's 50% of it and the other 50% is the interpretive, intuitive part. So if you're somebody who's curious about astrology and it's not time to dive in, you've got to start with the moon. The moon is the fast-moving luminary that governs our moods and what energy feels like what I usually call the lunar landscape of the day, like the backdrop, like the moon is different every two and a half days and it's not like the moon through each sign. It's like. I'm incredibly sensitive to energy, so I know what every moon sign feels like for me, and so that's why I would say start with the moon.
Speaker 2:You want to track where the moon is, which is easy to do. There's apps everywhere that will just tell you. I use iLuna to check where you can get a free time passages version, which is an astrology program that works in phone. So you track the sign that the moon is in and maybe you track your feelings, date and your mood and I'm not talking about journaling like details. It's not about the details, it's about the mood and the sensation of the day and three months of that. And you're going to get data about how you feel, based on where the moon is. And that's the beginning of what it is to look at the data of astrology and contextualize how you're feeling different day to day. Now, each sign feels different, but it's not magic and it's not. It's not like it's going to feel so distinct that, like at 245, when the moon changes signs, you're like, oh my God, we're in Pisces now and I can really feel it. Like that's bullshit.
Speaker 2:I will say that there's maybe five, four or five signs. When the moon is in one of those signs, I could probably sit and tell you, but in the other seven I can't. Do you know what I mean? So it's not, I'm not sure I and tell you, but in the other seven I can't. Do you know what I mean? So it's not, I'm not sure I can tell you what you're saying. It's not quite exact, like that. We're working with amorphous sensation. So that would be the first thing.
Speaker 2:Track the mood, track your mood, then pay attention to just new moons and full moons, right, you don't even need to get all deep in. What does it mean? What are the planets doing? I do deep and detailed reports at every lunation. I wouldn't worry so much about getting lost if you're starting out Like if I write an 1100 word article about the new moon and it's going to be filled with data and language that's going to make your head spin.
Speaker 2:Don't bother trying to make sense of all of that depth and intensity. Just go to. It's a new moon, so we set intentions, so you do that as a ritual and then you look at the sign that the new moon is in and you think what's this sign? I don't know when this will air, but it's being recorded inside a lunar cycle kicked off by a new moon in Libra. So you don't need to know about astrology to know that Libra is about relationships and so if there's a new moon in the sign of relationships, you set an intention for beautiful, right relationships and then, when the full moon comes, which is about release, you say, okay, what do I have to release to have beautiful and bright relationships? So now the astrology will make that idea more and more complex with really incredible data once you learn how to use it. But the flower is in that it's a new moon and that it's a full moon.
Speaker 2:So, really, if you knew nothing about the rest of the astrology and you just focused on the meaning of the sign and new moon, set intentions, full moon, do a ritual around release and letting things go, you could learn the elements.
Speaker 2:That's as easy as putting a little grid on your desk and seeing what the element is of each sign, because every sign is going to be either air, water, earth or fire. So you could do a fire ritual with make sure you're lighting a candle or lighting a fire or dancing around the living room firing up your body. If you want to do a ritual in an air sign, it should be intellectual. You should be using your words, you should be writing in air sign moments. Earth signs get into the body, because the body is earthy, and water signs make sure that there's fluid around, that you're bathing or using water in a ritual way. So right there of just honoring the new moon and the full moon, recognizing the signs, meaning and the elements therein, right there is juicy astrology that you don't need to be an astrologer to be tapping directly into what the solar system is doing at each of those moments.
Speaker 1:I love that. I love that so much. That's so helpful. Thank you for that. I've got to ask you have you ever met someone and you're like oh my gosh, I can tell what sign they are? No, I know.
Speaker 2:I will tell you this about that. The few times that I've ever been asked what sign am I? And I've answered and been right it's a coincidence or maybe a psychic little instinct, but no, I I will say that I think since I was a little boy I've had a really strong vibe meter. Like I was the eight year old who knew that people were missing each other in conversation and they couldn't tell. I was so observant about things. So, yeah, I'm one of those people who vibes very quickly and will have a sense and have seen this in certainly social media all the time. So it's like, oh wow, that guy really gave me the ick before he got canceled, or that chick really shouldn't be a spiritual teacher, and now she's getting canceled. With astrology Although, I can tell you that if I know of somebody and they're talking about how angry they are at someone, they're never going to talk to them again. It's like I say to myself I wonder how much Scorpio they have in their chart.
Speaker 1:Oh, Dr Michael, you guys, you do so many things. You have dream circles, courses. Do you want to talk a little bit about what?
Speaker 2:you do? Sure, I do. I do a lot of stuff. First of all, there's always stuff that I give for free and that's important for people to know. So if you're on any social media I'm on Instagram, tiktok, youtube and Facebook. I have different monikers on all of them, but you can Google that out. That's where I do my Red Robe Astrology videos every morning. It's a two-minute video about the day's astrology, and if you go to michaelenixcom, my website, and sign up for my newsletter, then not only will you see the Red Road of Astrology videos on social media, but you'll get my announcements, which include I send out a detailed new moon and full moon report, I send out a detailed monthly forecast, and all of this is free.
Speaker 2:Now I have one of the best learning tools ever for astrology, which is a daily subscription newsletter. This was one of the ways that I learned, because back in the 90s, my teacher, stephanie Azaria, did this herself. She did it for free for years and then she realized she can charge for it and I paid for it back then because I was learning so much. I call it the daily astral alerts. It's very detailed descriptions. It covers everything that's happening in the astrology, which means the person who's the beginner will find the language overwhelming at first, I promise, but it's also the language of a teacher. It's not like I'm leaving you on the cliff of the language. You will know that in my reading, my writing, I teach. Yes, I'm talking about things that you won't quite understand, but it's every second half of every sentence is the teaching information. It's at $10 a month, $100 for the year. You can find out about that at michaellenixcom. Once a month I do a free gathering on Zoom the first Thursday of every month for an hour at 7 pm Pacific where I talk about the month's astrology and I lead a little guided meditation Then again to get on my mailing list to get that.
Speaker 2:The classes I teach I have an astrology school that is growing, and now I have a basic course for reading your chart. I have the first half of a introduction to working with transits. The second half is coming next year. I have some advanced classes. I have a lunar cycle class. So my astrology school is growing and anyone who wants to learn astrology if now's the time to head over to that.
Speaker 2:The juicy teaching that I love the most, though, is all of my process classes. I love teaching people how to self-investigate, heal wounds and transmute trauma. So I have a class on forgiveness. I have a class on finding your voice, where I talk about the resonance of the physical voice, but then we look at all the wounds of holding your voice back and how to heal that. Radical forgiveness is a class. If you're stuck in unforgiveness you can't move forward until you let that go. I've got a class on that. I've got a shadow class and then I've got a series of classes called Going Deeper, where we do shadow work but we focus it on themes by using fairy tales and myths to do the self-investigation right. So it's like looking at Medusa and as Medusa lives in you, but so does Perseus, so does Athena, whose temple started the thing, and the guy Poseidon right there. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:It's like all these archetypes live in us and we can use them as a reflection to heal certain thematic experiences of our humanity. So that's everything. That's every few years I write a book experiences of our humanity. So that's everything. That's when, every few years, I write a book.
Speaker 1:I love that you forgot your dream circles. You do talk about dream circles. Oh, that's right.
Speaker 2:Yes, yes, the second Sunday of every month I have a small dream circle. It's very intimate. I guess I don't think I let more than nine people in a month, so it can be hard to book into, but it's really fun. And the dream circles are juicy because not only are you going to everybody brings a dream and they all get 10 minutes to have their dream interpreted by me but also the group everybody participates. The beauty of a dream circle is that then there's also a running interpretation of what the community is dreaming together. I call it like a tarot reading, where each dream is like a different card for all of the people in the circle gathered to have an interpretation of what does Psyche want to say to you right now. This dream circle is telling a story, so they're really fun.
Speaker 1:That's powerful, I mean on so many levels, yeah some months it's like crazy.
Speaker 2:The first dreamer is a dream about ice cream, and then someone has a dream about hot fudge, and then their dreams about whipped cream, and then someone has a dream about sprinkles and the last dreamer is about a cherry. It really can be that like crazy, and sometimes it's not as fun and juicy as that, but there's always a theme, it's always powerful.
Speaker 1:I love it and you offered you astrological readings for people too. They can go and book that on your site.
Speaker 2:Yeah, absolutely, it's my bread and butter. I don't always lead with that because I book like five months in advance. It doesn't, it's not cheap to sit with me and it's they're so exhausting, so I have to limit how many I can do.
Speaker 2:Oh, sure, but yeah, yeah, it's the bread and butter of my business. So, yes, astrological readings and in my readings I don't like. I'm not the kind of astrologer that says your son's in Capricorn, so you're very focused on the goals, like. My joke is, if you don't know who you are by the time you sit with me, you're in the wrong room. I'm not going to tell you what your chart says about who you are. We're going to leave that. We're going to pretend who you are. So what I do is I look at the progressions, which is a technique in astrology that looks like at your inner evolution, right? So if the first 20 minutes is what's happening in this technique of astrology, that's about your insides and then we switch gears and we do what's called transit astrology, where we look at how the current planets are impacting your chart now, and then we'll finish out by looking a year and a half ahead in a predictive fashion.
Speaker 1:I love that, dr Michael. I just love all of that. I want to thank you so much for coming on my show today sharing your wisdom and all of your fun stories with my audience and I honor the beautiful light you are in this world. You are so fun and I just have enjoyed every minute talking to you today.
Speaker 2:Thank you so much. I've enjoyed this too.
Speaker 1:Hello, beautiful soul. Thank you so much for listening and for all of your support. I honor the beautiful light that is in each and every one of you. I would love it if you would take a minute and rate and review the podcast. It really helps get the messages out there. I'm also now offering distance Reiki sessions links in the podcast notes. Reiki completely changed my life. If you are interested or curious, please reach out. I would love to be of service or just help Reiki and its amazing benefits. Thank you so much and I'm wishing everybody an amazing day.
