180 - Seeing Beyond the Veil: Spirits, Visions & Reiki

What happens when the line between our world and the unseen begins to blur?

In this episode of The Wandering Road, we sit down with Bekah to explore her deeply personal experiences with spirits, intuition, energy, and the unexplained.

Bekah shares her first experience with Reiki and how it changed her perspective on the energy around us. She also recounts a chilling encounter inside a home where she experienced a vivid vision of a woman being murdered, leaving her to wonder if she had witnessed the final moments of a spirit connected to the house.

Not every encounter with the other side is frightening. Bekah also shares an emotional experience after the passing of her beloved dog, when she saw her again and was left wondering whether our loved ones, including our animals, can find ways to let us know they are still with us.

Was Bekah seeing beyond the veil? Were these moments of intuition, spiritual communication, or something else entirely?

Join us as we explore spirits, psychic visions, Reiki, energy, the afterlife, and the experiences that make us question just how much exists beyond what we can see.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_04 0:00

There, I see a soldier in a blue uniform running, and he disappears into our camp. My wife comes back up, she's like, I saw a soldier in blue. I was like, So did I. And then I saw a black figure in the woods over here. And I'm like, she's has psychic abilities too, but she refuses to uh believe it.

SPEAKER_00 0:25

Welcome to the wandering road, a paranormal podcast. Every mile of this road holds a story. Some are whispered, some screamed, and some never meant to be told at all. From haunted backroads to whispered legends, no case is too dark and no question too dangerous. Welcome, traveler. The road is waiting.

SPEAKER_03 0:55

Hey everyone, welcome back to another episode of the Wandering Road Podcast. I am your co-host. Not Chris, I'm Dean. I'm Dean. Uh it's been a long week and I almost tripped up and I don't get we're gonna keep it in because it's fun. Uh I'm coming to you straight from Hawaii, beautiful Hawaii. Chris is coming from Western PA. And we have on the show today the amazing Becca from Third Eye Becca. We've had her on before. We're gonna discuss things again. It's gonna be super exciting because she's been to Pennhurst, she's been to Gettysburg, and Chris is going to Gettysburg soon, and we have a lot to talk about. And I'm super psyched for this because like we actually have someone on here who has done recent paranormal investigations. Let's kick it off. Becca, how's it going? How's everything?

SPEAKER_04 1:43

How are you guys?

SPEAKER_03 1:44

Good.

SPEAKER_02 1:44

Hanging in there. We just um I had a recent release where we talked freaking talked to uh talked to I talked to Pinhead, the actor, Doug Bradley.

SPEAKER_03 1:57

I still can't believe that guy came on the show. That's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 2:00

Yeah, yeah. Episode 173 and episode 174 will be part four coming out Friday, July 3rd. So this this episode will probably air after that. So if you have not listened to that episode, go listen to 173 and 174. I had the Doug Bradley, the guy that plays Pinhead, on the show. And it's funny how I met him. I met him at a Comic Con. He was doing autographs. I had a Liverpool jersey on, and he's a he's from Liverpool, he's a huge fan. He and he's just randomly started talking to me, and then I just started talking to him the past days at the con. And you know, I told him, I took the shot. I was like, hey, here's my business card. Got a podcast for the paranormal. You want to come on? He's like, Yeah, here's my email. I shot him the email, and then like literally it happened within like hours. He's like, Hey, I'm available.

SPEAKER_03 2:54

Please tell me, did you use our card, the one that we made? Oh, 100%. 100%. Yes, that's awesome, man. 100%. We did the whole Kiko's like make a famous like card. I even like as I like I travel for work work sometimes and I like scatter them around randomly, hoping that like somebody is going to like more and more people are gonna start listening. Um but before we get into it, I apologize, guys. I am on baby duty, so our listeners, our viewers, I apologize if I cut my screen, it's because I have to run off for a second. But we will continue on with the show as normal. So let's kick it off.

SPEAKER_02 3:29

And the reason I bring up a con, it kind of segues into what you did recently, Becca, this past May. You were at Paracon at Pennhurst. So I'm curious about that. I talked to Patty, I saw that um you had met her, and she was awesome, had her on the show recently. Um, so what was the paracon like? I'm just curious about that because I've always thought about going to one, and I'm like, I'm a small time podcaster. I'm like, is anyone gonna fucking come to my booth or anything? Like, I don't have anything to sell. I mean, all I'll have is business cards and be like with a sign that says, Please tell me your ghost stories and come on my show. But how was it for you?

SPEAKER_04 4:12

Three stickers and they'll come on over.

SPEAKER_02 4:14

Yeah, free stickers. Okay, I gotta do that.

SPEAKER_04 4:18

So um, this was actually my third time going. The first two times I went, I just went like I just bought tickets and we went. Um, but I was actually vending there this year. Um, but I have a small apothecary that you know has metaphysical items and I make all of the items myself. Um, and I set up a booth. Um, and I had all of my third Ibecca stickers, and I was actually so amazed how many people came over just to look, and then they were like, Oh my god, is that you? And I was like, Yeah, that's me. I I was like, oh my god, I've people know who I am. Like I was like very excited. I didn't realize how many people had like knew who I was. I was like, cool, all right. Um, but it was such a good time. Like all of the celebrities were just walking around. I mean, I you always forget that they're like they're people too, and they get to walk around and be humans, and you're like, oh my gosh, there's you know, there's twin paranormal, there's you know, um the ghost hunters, like it's just it's awesome. It's it's really cool. I definitely recommend it, especially. I mean, you guys should go and you should set up a booth and talk to people. You can get more people on your on your podcast that way too. It'd be awesome.

SPEAKER_02 5:36

Yeah, you hear that, Mr. Hawaii. Get your ass over here.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Come on, yeah. I have already paid for my booth for next year, too, so I'm really excited.

SPEAKER_03 5:45

Oh, by the way, Chris, wait, wait, Chris, what what did we get from two people? We have to we have to mention them because we don't know who they are, and we have to like say thank you real quick. Three now, yeah. Okay, so three people, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 6:00

So on that, like people like you know, coming to your booth and stuff like that. We set up this like coffee page, you know. Some people have like Patreon, some people have like buy me a coffee coffee, and like I just put it out there and recently like we had three people like join us as subscribers, so um yeah, yeah, shout out to them. One of them, yeah, I think you are amazing. Yeah, one of them like we don't know because it's just like an email address, like we appreciate it. Um, the other one I do know because they put their name on it, Amanda. Thank you. Um, she runs a detailing shop, I think she's in Wisconsin, so look her up on uh Instagram. I think it's beautiful distraction. And she like runs a detailing shop, she's awesome. Go get your car detailed. And the other one is actually my cousin who's been like listening to the show consistently and like been donating for months, and I didn't even know until he told me. So it's yeah, aside from like the family, but like you know, when like to your point, Becca, like when people recognize you and like come up to your booth and stuff like that, it's like holy shit, you you care?

SPEAKER_04 7:19

Yeah, I yeah, it's like it's amazing because you know, people just watch videos and then they'll like them, and then but when they actually come and they're like, Oh wait, that's you, and I was like, Yeah, yeah, what's the magnesium spray?

SPEAKER_02 7:33

Like so I'm curious about your apothecary stuff. Like, what do you what do you sell there? Like, how did you start doing that?

SPEAKER_04 7:42

So I have an autoimmune issue. Um, so I started realizing um that chemicals were making me ill. So everything in our house is non-toxic. I make everything from you know basalts to laundry powder, um, I make magnesium sprays, and then from there people loved it, and then I started getting, you know, my like witchy side into it, and I started, you know, doing metaphysical items, and then there's crystals, I have protection rollers, I have sage cleansing spray, and I, you know, I infuse positive energy into it. I don't think I was Riki certified the last time I was on your podcast, so I've been putting Reiki into my products and you know, just putting energy into it.

SPEAKER_03 8:30

Um, so that's kind of two quick things. Riki, I've heard of that before. I kind of vaguely know what that is, but for our listeners, can you explain what Riki is? And like I didn't even know it was a certification. Like, how do you get Riki certified?

SPEAKER_04 8:43

Yes, so I only did level one so far. I'm working on level two. Um, I met this amazing woman, Bess. She, I don't know, I just met her, and there was like this amaz amazing connection, and then I was started going to her place, and she does sound bass, and she does reiki. So I was like, you know what? I want to be open to Riki. Riki is like positive energy, and everybody is, you know, able to receive that positive energy. There's just what they call attunements. So you go and you have to learn like an entire like little course book, and then once you learn it, you at the end you get your Riki attunement. How my Reiki teacher explains it is every time that you practice Reiki or you get attuned, it's like a straw. And when she the more you get attuned, the wider the straw goes. So you might be a small little coffee stir straw, and then the first attunement you get, you're a McDonald's straw. And then after that, it keeps widening and widening. And the first boba straw. Yeah, I want I want to be the smoothie straw. And the first um, the first time that I had Riki, I went to a Riki share, so I wasn't like attuned to Riki or anything. You just she teaches you a little bit, and we all share positive energy to one another to one another. So it's universal life force energy. And I started feeling like right here on the top of my head, my hair tingling, and that was the first time like I've ever gotten that sensation. And now every time I do reiki, I send Riki, I receive Riki, the top of my head tingles, and it is wow, it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_03 10:31

Is Riki Japanese in or origin, real quick?

SPEAKER_04 10:34

Yes, yep.

SPEAKER_03 10:35

Okay, I just want to make sure. So okay, go ahead. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:38

And I am certified in Yusui Riki. That's just the practitioner. Yep. And it first came to America, and I think it was the 70s, and it first came to Hawaii. So you're in like the first state that oh man, I gotta get some Riki on me too.

SPEAKER_03 10:55

Oh man, that's awesome.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

Yeah, so I I love it, it brings a community together, and it's just amazing the things that you can do that you have no idea that you can do, you know what I mean? Or just we block things out all of the time, um, and our bodies are amazing and our our entire spiritual being.

SPEAKER_02 11:15

So agreed. So, Becca, what do people go to Riki for? Because it's not the first time I've heard of it. So I'm I'm kind of curious like why what particular reason someone would go and search that out.

SPEAKER_04 11:31

Yep. So sometimes people are looking for healing physically, emotionally, um, spiritually, and that's where that can um help. So I took some other courses too, because I got um I got uh a little curious, and then I went in a rabbit hole, and then I just started taking all these courses and getting certifications. So one of them is crystal energy healing, and then the other one is a space healing practitioner. So that and all of that has to do with Riki as well. So say you're you're just not feeling emotionally well, you can go to a Reiki practitioner and they can scan you your body, your chakras. They can suggest, they can't like diagnose or anything, but they can suggest that okay, you have a block in your heart chakra. Let me try and clear that out. And there's an entire practice um and way to do it. Now, everything is different for each practitioner. The once I got attuned and I started practicing, like when I do these Ricky shares and when I'm sending energy to other people in a room, we all sit in a circle, I can literally feel where their chakras are blocked and send energy to that to those chakras or where their body needs it the most. Sometimes when people are going through, you know, cancer treatments and things like that, just pulling out that energy that negative energy and transmuting it into positive energy and sending you know love and light to those spaces in the body can really be beneficial. There's like amazing stories and about it. I that's kind of what drew me to it.

SPEAKER_02 13:06

When you say, like, you know, you pass positive energy, you said you felt like the tingling on the top of your head. Is that the consistent feeling that you get, or is there something more kind of like physical that you can't see that you feel? I'm just curious because I've never because I've seen on TikTok, like you know, there's like reeky people on there and they do like videos and stuff, and I've never I'm like, can you do that virtually? Or is it something that had you have to be in person?

SPEAKER_04 13:34

Yeah, so um certain levels, so once you get to level three, you can send um energy like virtually and things like that. Um, but right now my level one, I'm just like allowed to practice on myself and other people, like my friends or my family, but I'm not allowed to like you know receive money for it or anything like that because I need to get to those other levels. Um, but my friend Brittany, she is a Riki practitioner, and she actually I don't know much about the fire uh Yusui Riki, I think that's what it's called. I could be wrong, I could be butchering that. Um, but that's what she does, and she sent me videos and she did a complete um reiki session on me virtually. Um, and the things that she was saying, like I was like, okay, I can receive this virtually. I like it was really crazy, and she also kind of put her own little twist into it, um, which has a little, I guess you'll call it magic in it. And she can see into different timelines, and she was telling me things that like you know I would have never spoken out loud, and she's like, I see this blocked here and here, and this is from another timeline that you were on once. Um, so that was pretty cool. Um, but there's so many different ways that you can send it. Um, now physically for your body, personally for me, I feel it on the top of my head tingling. Um, when you start to send it with your hands, your hands, like at least my hands, actually start to get very, very hot because you're you're pushing out energy. Um very it's a very cool practice. And I'm still practicing, I'm not uh an expert or a freaky master or anything like that. Yet yes, yes. I'm practic, yeah. Um that's my mission. So and it's just you know, you can heal the world, you can heal people, and I don't know. All it sometimes all it takes is to heal and help one person to make a difference.

SPEAKER_03 15:36

So I feel like if you if you like read Chris and I would be like, Oh, oh shit, you're all blockage. You got blockage, you got blockage here, you got blockage here, you got blockage here. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 15:47

Hey, I mean I could try, we could practice. Lots of pick up something from Chris, but like I didn't want to say it because I didn't know if I was like wrong.

SPEAKER_02 15:55

No, go ahead. Go ahead.

SPEAKER_04 15:57

Do you have like um like an issue with like a like a parental figure? Like they were too hard on you, or I'm trying to find the words to yes, yeah. Yes, I just feel like hold on, I gotta find the words. I just feel like they were too hard on you, and it's like kind of affected you like mentally and emotionally, and I think that's where you're blocked, and you have to realize that you're bigger than that, and you have to feel your confidence, and once you clear that, you're gonna feel so much better. I don't know if that's right, but that's what I picked up.

SPEAKER_02 16:34

Okay, very old school upbringing. I wasn't abused, okay. I'm not I wasn't abused physically or emotionally, it's just like you know, like Caribbean parents, they're like just because of their upbringing, they're like very hard-nosed, very hard ass. It's like you work, you do this, you do that. There's no time for anything else, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

Deal with it, right?

SPEAKER_02 16:56

Yeah, extracurricular. Like, you know, that there's like no concept of you know mental struggle and stuff, yeah, which is more of like a cultural thing. So no, you're spot on. And listeners, I've never shared any of this with her. No, no, no, yeah, and when you were saying that, it kind of felt like weird, like right here.

SPEAKER_04 17:17

Yeah, that that's where I always feel like energy sources. Yeah, so that's your heart chakra, right? So you kind of you know, it's like you love your parent, right? Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's weighing heavy on that chakra, but also your heart chakra also has to do with your shoulders, too, and it's really heavy on your shoulders. I feel like you would really benefit from Riki. Sorry if I picked that up or if I brought up any emotional damage.

SPEAKER_02 17:40

I just no, no, no, no, you were spot on. Okay, now do him.

SPEAKER_04 17:47

See, like that's where I am in my practice. Like, I just I hear it, then I can tell you, but I like I don't really know how to just I don't want to like lie. I'm not gonna try and like pull things, you know what I mean? That just came to me.

SPEAKER_02 17:58

No, no, and you were 100% spot on, so I can't even deny that. Like, a hundred percent spot on. And listeners, I never shared this stuff with her, never talked about anything personally, so and I can't see anything at your house.

SPEAKER_04 18:12

It says wandering road in the background, there's nothing I could pull out and look at and try to figure out, so yeah, and you can't see all the waifu pillows and like no, I don't do that.

SPEAKER_02 18:24

I will admit to my Lord of the Rings obsession, but none of that weird Mr. Japan stuff.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

Sure, sure.

SPEAKER_02 18:33

JJ's the one with the waifu pillows, okay? I ain't the only one.

SPEAKER_03 18:39

But okay, really quickly, hold on, like wait a second, I have to say this. This is like I think that there is something to the energy draw thing with with um Riki and other similar stuff because I feel like it's really rare in especially Western culture where you explore um different mindsets and you kind of like be aware of other mindsets and you like reset yourself to that specific frequency. I had a weird experience when I was younger where I kind of wanted to like go someplace like um with my professional career when I was first starting. And like I didn't think much about it. I'm like, oh well, I really want to do this thing, like I want I want to work this area, go to this location, do this, whatever. And the only jobs I could ever find were like senior level jobs, right? And back then I was like entry-level, maybe like middle level at best. But somebody had told me along the path of my my professional career, like, oh, just make waves, change your attitude, uh believe that you have more capability or worth than you actually think you do. And I'm like, okay, like it took me a while, but like, okay, I'll find I'll try it. So I I find you know these senior level jobs and I apply to them, and I ended up getting an interview for one. And ultimately that parlayed into getting me out to Hawaii, you know, getting a home, getting like, you know, if I didn't move out here with my wife, like we wouldn't have the kids we have. Like, it's just it's just like reflecting on it. Like, I if I didn't make that effort or somebody didn't give me that uh insight when I was younger, I would not be where I'm at. So like I think there definitely is like a bleed over in power between manifesting things yourself, but also there's like an air of energy that is with it. So that that that just reminds me of like the whole Riki thing. So I I I want to dig more into that, uh Reiki, especially since I heard that like it's very prevalent in Hawaii. So yeah, thank you for that. I'm gonna look at it.

SPEAKER_04 20:36

Yeah, of course. I'm sure they have uh plenty of Riki there. It's like the first state that it came to, so it's awesome.

SPEAKER_02 20:46

Uh question back like how you just did that for me, like, did it just randomly like appear to you? Does it ever get overwhelming when you're around people? Like, how do you handle that now that you're kind of like entry level?

SPEAKER_04 21:00

If I feel so drawn to go out and tell somebody, I will, but like I it's just like all this information and always like most of the time it always comes from the right side, or I can hear spirit talking in my ear. That that always scares me. But um it just it just comes to me and I just know like I didn't want to go out and be like, is it like hey, your dad's kind of strict, he's kind of mean, he's kind of like laying the lull over there. Well, didn't he? I didn't want to like say that, but that's how I heard it in my head. But it I wanted to say it nicely. Um, sometimes when I do get things and I go to tell people, I'm so emotionally like distraught by everything that I I'm feeling. I start hyperventilating and crying. I can't do it. I like can't talk. I'm like, I wanna cry. Um, but that's kind of how it comes about. And I actually took a um, now that I'm showing you all my certificates and telling you everything, but I took a psychic class. I already knew, like, obviously. That I have the gift, but I just don't know how to use it. So I took a class at this place in Maryland. It's called Haven. It's um in Haverty Grace. And Lene is the teacher. She was absolutely amazing. Um, she does so many awesome classes and things there, and even has paranormal investigations, and her little building is even haunted. But I was like, you know what? I want to like, how can I like quiet my mind to get more? So I wanted to take that class. Um, and at the end of it, she even takes you on a paranormal investigation. You don't know where you're going, you're going to someone's house. She doesn't tell you anything before, and it's with a group of psychics, and you kind of just go in and start writing things, and then at the end, and you go around, you walk around, you investigate. Um, you get it's like cold lo-fi, so you get your EMF, you can use dowsing rods, and you can use oh my god, what's that called? With the crystal on the board, I can't think of the word name. Pendulum.

SPEAKER_01 23:02

Pendulum.

SPEAKER_04 23:04

It's just crazy what everybody picked up and how they perceived this like the same information of things. So it was it was pretty cool. She even brought in like all of these like haunted objects from her house. And when we were sitting there in class, I hear a man talking in my ear. He said, Pick up that picture frame. And I'm like, Okay. So I'm like looking as everybody's going up to grab their haunted object, and I'm like, and I like don't take that, don't take that. So then I go up and I take it and I look at it, and my I'm just getting flooded with information. And before she could even tell us, like, this is what you need to do. I'm just like writing all this stuff down because I'm like, if I don't write it down, I'm gonna forget it. And I like start feeling like I start feeling like I'm on the beach, and then I feel like my back's laying in the sand, and then I like look up at the sky and I see the sky. It's a sunny day, but it's hot, it's like hazy. And then I see an eagle, and the eagle just like opens up and it's just bright, and I can't see anything else, and then I feel my hands and I feel calluses on my hands, and then I feel like my heart is going like beating, and it can't get back into rhythm. And I feel like there's like a pacemaker like shocking my heart or something trying to get my heart back in rhythm. And the spirit said, Hi, Lene. And I wrote all this down, and then I start telling her, and she's like, I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna cry, I'm gonna cry. And I'm like, Okay, like, should I stop? And she's like, That's my dad, and everything you said was right. He was a carpenter, so that's why I was feeling like calluses on my hands, and he and he died on the beach. I guess that's why I felt like I was like in the sand, and she said her dad would purposely take them on vacations just to see eagles. So, like, I don't know if I was like seeing what he saw before he died, right? But like I saw the eagle on the sky, and he had a pacemaker and he had a heart attack and died on the beach. So that's why I was feeling like that. Yeah, it's just but I don't get that all the time. I don't know how to make it like it just happens when it happens.

SPEAKER_03 25:13

So I don't mean to take things in a negative direction, but like I'm curious though, like because in Ricky and like the energy transfer in uh in other areas you're you're delving into, it sounds like it's mostly positive, which is great. That's fantastic. Like it should be it should be positive for like a human who's on earth who's seeking like enlightenment and stuff like that. I feel like that is the way that you would want to play out. Uh but I I'm just curious, just for the sake of covering all bases on both ends of the spectrum. Have you been taught anything about like watching out for certain negative energy or like things that might be trying to tempt you or trick you, or is it mostly just like, oh, if you feel it a certain way, you should trust it and go with it in a positive way. That makes sense.

SPEAKER_04 25:59

I feel like if you do not engage in negative energy, you can't like if you're calling it in and you're bringing it in, then you gave it permission. I feel like it needs permission. If you like I I feel like I'm just full of positive, like, you know, love, light. I a long time ago when I was on here last time and I was telling you about, you know, all the haunted and negative energies I had in my old houses that I used to live in, I was in a negative space. So negativity was attracting negative negativity, and now I'm just like positive, and positivities is attracting the positive, you know what I mean? I can still feel and sense when something is negative. I I'm able to figure out how that feels in my body energy-wise. So I know not to engage in it, and I do, you know, I'm like, hey, you can't follow me home. You need to stay here, you're not allowed to, you know, enter enter anywhere near my body, you're not allowed to touch me, you need to stay away. Like, I'll interact with positive entities and beings, like when I do investigations, or you know, that's that's kind of what I say.

SPEAKER_03 27:08

And I don't want to give anyone bad information. I I will say that if you feel like you're in danger in a situation with somebody, you should definitely try to do the best thing possible to get away from the danger. But at the same time, I feel like I had a more positive perspective on life when I was younger, just because I didn't have as many stressors and like I didn't have as many things going on that I needed to take care of and stuff like that. So like it was more easygoing when you're younger for for some people, not everybody, more more flowing. But I feel like I had a perspective of positivity more so than I do now when I was younger. And so like I would meet people who would want to fight, or like I'd meet people who were abrasive or something, but there was like some way that I would they would be disarmed by my presence or my the way I talk to them. And I guess you could say like maybe part of that is just like my demeanor, but at the same time, like maybe there's more to it. So that like the reason I bring that up is because it just reminds me I haven't talked to somebody in a long time who preaches pure positivity to deflect negativity, and so uh I do wonder I still wonder to this day, like if you're more positive and you're more open to that, like are you more likely to have a positive outcome for someone who is negative towards you?

SPEAKER_04 28:21

Especially with like all of the things I've learned and I've just you know, trial and error, if you are just fueling with someone who is negative and you're being negative back, it just literally, for better lack of terms, it just like fuels the fire. If someone's being negative and you're being positive, your positive energy is gonna radiate out outwards further than that negativity is ever gonna be able to reach. So if you just keep putting positive energy into a space or into a situation, it's not gonna affect you. Like, I mean, it might, but like it's not gonna take over your life and ruin your life. You just need to be positive, I don't know how to the best way to say this, but just being positive and just surrounding yourself and imagining yourself in a bright white bubble of positive energy and love and light. Just I don't think that negativity is gonna be able to affect you if you were just completely negative. Does that make sense? 100%.

SPEAKER_03 29:18

Yeah, 100%. I agree.

SPEAKER_02 29:20

No, that makes sense. Yeah, it's kind of like what your mindset, too, right? If you're negative in your mindset, you're just gonna go into everything pessimistic, and it's kind of like a s what they say of a self-suff self-fulfilling prophecy. Yeah, or like you kind of just lead yourself to failure. So I I think that makes sense. Uh what I did want to ask is when you said that you can kind of feel those that negative energy and those negative entities when you go on an investigation, what does that feel like to you where you know, like, okay, oh shit. Like this, like I can't know.

SPEAKER_04 29:56

I feel as like a psychic sense, um, that how it interacts with my body, like I feel like my throat is going and it's being squeezed, and I can't breathe. Um, and then sometimes I'll start to get dizzy and lightheaded. Um, I can I can kind of feel it. It it kind of depends what it is, but that's my number one, like, oh shit, like we need to get out of here, or we need to like don't interact with this space. Sometimes I'm able to be like, okay, this thing is so powerful that we need to like, we need to leave it and we need to say, you're not allowed to follow me. Um, we're going somewhere else. But sometimes, like, even though it's negative, it could just be like a negative spirit that had a really bad life, and they're not actually, you know, an entity, they're a spirit. Um that's just kind of mean and old and grumpy, you know, that kind of vibe. Um, there's definitely a difference between us that kind of spirit and a negative energy, like entity.

SPEAKER_02 30:59

When I was doom scrolling yesterday, uh, you may have come across this as well. It's um it's this TikTok page that's like dedicated to portraits of people from the Victorian era. And yeah, like scrolling through them, it's like professional portraits from like I think the oldest one I saw was from like 1860 or something like that. And I'm like, I can't I've there was like it was like a playlist of 80, and I went through all of them. And I was like texting my uh buddy JJ, and I'm like, dude, I found this page absolutely mesmerized. I'm like, I didn't think I'd be that intrigued with people that lived over a hundred and sixty years ago, and I was like, this photo is just like a snapshot one second in their entire life that we'll never know about, have no details or anything like that. But I I promise it's coming to a question. How you picked up the picture frame and all that stuff if you were to look at one of those pictures of those video from those videos or whatever, like the the presentation scrolling through, do you think you would be able to pick up on anything even though it's digital, or would you need something like the actual physical portrait of like said person? And would they have to still be around spiritually for you to get any information, or do you think you're able to like just pull information or from like your psychic classes, are you guys able to like just deduce from just looking at a photo or something?

SPEAKER_04 32:36

Yes, some so it's random, but um, sometimes I can just be like see something on the internet and I'll start feeling like different tingles and different chakras, and I kind of know I'm like, okay, this might happen to this person, or I might feel something off of a photograph. I really like to hold actual photos in my hand, and sometimes if you just like I breathe deep and I meditate, then I can start feeling um things off of the photos. Not every photo has like an energy to it, like like I mean, like a spirit attached to it or something like that. Sure. But sometimes I can pick up energies and you know different traits that that person might have had, or I can feel a certain way. It's all so random. I'm trying to work towards being able to just do it on the spot, but it takes a lot of practice and a lot of quiet in my brain, and I don't really have that all the time.

SPEAKER_02 33:33

I know what you mean with the quiet in the brain stuff. Like I can't, I literally can't fall asleep unless I have like an audiobook on or something.

SPEAKER_04 33:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 33:41

With my headphones. It's that bad at times.

SPEAKER_04 33:45

I can't fall asleep unless I'm watching like paranormal videos.

SPEAKER_02 33:50

See, I try to do that, but my wife doesn't know that that doesn't gel for her.

SPEAKER_04 33:56

It like makes me feel alive when I like watch that kind of stuff. I don't know why. I guess it's just like feeding my soul, and I'm like, oh, I love that. Before bedtime.

SPEAKER_02 34:05

Right? Look, if I'm by myself, I'll have it on. But the dogs have to be with me. So it's like, you know, there's a trade-off. They don't know what's going on, or maybe they do. Are you able to okay? Speaking of that, are you able to like pick up on animals and stuff? Like uh energy from them, or or what's that that like?

SPEAKER_04 34:26

Was it like involuntary like like animal spirits?

SPEAKER_02 34:31

Like animal spirits, or just like if you like came across like a dog or something, like, or even your own animals.

SPEAKER_04 34:39

Yeah, so we have a lot of spirit animals in our house. Um I'm not sure if last time I was on the podcast, if my I don't think my dog had passed away yet. Um she passed away in February, um, at the end of February. And um sorry. Yeah, thank you. She um she had a specific bed that she'd like to lay in. Um, it was her little orthopedic bed, and um, she had passed away, and my wife will not let me use any type of like paranormal equipment in the house at all. She's like, She's like, we walk out of that door and you tell me all this crazy stuff all the time. She's like, This is our safe space, and I'm like, Okay, all right. Um, but I pulled out my EMF um detector. Wait, do I have it with me? Oh yeah, I pulled this out and I sat it on her bed because I knew she was there. I knew she was there. So I sat it there and I like took a video. Um, and I'm like, Lily, if you're here, can can you wag? Can you shake on the bed just so I know you're here? This started going off. It only went to the yellow. I was like freaking out a little bit, but I was like, I know she's here. I'm I know she's here. So then like it was like this was like a day later after she had passed away, and um, we hadn't gotten her ashes yet. And I told my wife, I'm like, come here right now, because she's just like still hysterical. And I I sit it down, I'm like, watch. She's like, no, don't do that in the house. I was like, just watch. And then I start talking to her, and it starts going off. I was like, I told you she's here. I was like, Do you believe me? I know when she's here. I haven't seen her in maybe like a month, but um, she walked in the kitchen while I was like getting ready for work, about to leave, and I saw her. I her entire body, her entire face. I saw her walk right in the kitchen, and she had her little head down and she's wagging her tail, and I screamed because it scared the crap out of me because I wasn't expecting it.

SPEAKER_01 36:43

I was like, ah!

SPEAKER_04 36:44

Oh my god, because I was like, Where did this animal come from? But it and then she just they just kind of just dissipate.

SPEAKER_01 36:51

Dissipate, okay.

SPEAKER_04 36:53

It was I haven't seen her since. I hope I didn't scare her too bad. But we also got a puppy too, so maybe she was like, they don't need me as much now, and they have someone to love on, and but see that that type of story like makes me happy because it I I always have this fear that like once animals go, they they just go.

SPEAKER_02 37:13

There's you know, they don't come back, they don't, you know, we don't have a chance of ever seeing them again. Um, so that makes me happy. Um interesting story is in 2017, October of 2017, my wife and I, our main coon, like he passed away like pretty rapidly. He went into kidney failure, he was 10. I remember she like while I was I was away for work in Seattle, and she like told me like, hey, he's like breathing weird and stuff like that. I come back home and he's like in the litter box, just like laying there. So I take him to the vet, and I was like, I get to the vet, I was and he told me what was going on. I was like, fuck. And I'm like, I can't do this by myself. So I called her, she came, her mom came. We had to put him to sleep, but I shit you not like three weeks later, we're we're laying in bed, and she it's bad feng shui, which my best friend, he's like one of my best friends from high school. He's which I still I still talk to him every day. We've been friends for like, I don't know, 22 years now. And he came to our house one day, like the old house, and he saw where we had the bed placement. He's like, dude, it you it's not supposed to face the doorway, it's bad feng shui. The bed was positioned in that manner, and I'm laying in bed, she's asleep, I have the TV on and everything, and I see our cats like just walking in the hallway and stuff, and then I see this head, like I kid you not, like just poke around, and it was his face. And I was like, I double ticked, I'm like, wait, what? Because the other three were in the room with us. I'm like, there shouldn't be a fourth one out there. So, like, yeah, I told her, I'm like, Yeah, I saw him. Like, he like poked his head in, and you know. So that's I probably especially now that you did took like type psychic classes and stuff like that, like Penhurst or Gettysburg. Like, what was that like now that you're tapping into your your uh abilities?

SPEAKER_04 39:17

Um, last week we went so we we leave our camper up in Gettysburg. So last week we went camping, and there's like a farm that's near the campground that we're at, and we start hearing gunshots, and I'm thinking to myself, oh my gosh, that's gonna that could possibly rile up some activity. We hear gunshots, and my wife is at the park with our son, and I'm at the camper with the dog, and I'm like, Okay, that might rile up some activity. And my phone was in the camper, and I was outside of it, and I go to get my phone to text my wife, and she had already texted me. I wonder if those gunshots are gonna make the spirits like you know, get them all riled up too. So the second I like look at that, I look over and there I see a soldier in a blue uniform running, and he disappears into our camper. I'm like, what? And my wife, then my wife comes back up, she's like, I saw a soldier in blue. I was like, so did I, and then she's like, and then I saw a black figure in the woods over here, and I'm like, she's um she has psychic abilities too, but she refuses to uh believe it. Okay, yeah, but when we're like in a vicinity together, everything ramps up and everything's like even crazier because she's picking up on like certain traits of an energy, and I'm picking up on certain traits of an energy. But I had just seen a soldier dart and he had the blue uniform on. She's like, she comes over, she's like, I saw the soldier, he's got buttons going down. Um, and she's like describing it, she's like, He's he's got a long beard, um, he had like this hat on, and I was like, Okay, I didn't even pick up on all of that. So she's like, We need to get the spirit box out. I was like, Okay, let's get the spirit box out. And we sit outside of our camper and we put the spirit box on. And then I went on TikTok live. Um, there's like a little bit of snippet on my TikTok. Um, and we're just asking questions, and these male voices were coming through. The name that was coming through was Robert, and it just kept coming through. Then my friend Brad, I don't know if you have have you heard of Neo Paranormal? He pops on live just to say hi, and I'm like explaining what we're doing, and then the second he leaves, the spirit box says his name three times. It says Brad, and I'm like, that's so weird. Why would it say your name three times? That's so strange. But like these different, like men's voices were coming through, and my wife was just kept asking questions, like, you know, what color is your uniform? Blue, and I'm like, Okay, well, we just saw a soldier in in a blue uniform. That was about all the activity that we got there. But we have seen on the battlefield, we have both seen soldiers, two soldiers walking together. Um, we actually both saw that at the same exact time, like, god, like I don't know, 10-12 years ago now. But I've never really been to Gettysburg and not had an experience. And maybe a month ago, we went to Mr. G's ice cream and we parked in the parking lot, and I'm about to turn the car off, and we're all about to get out to go get ice cream, and the radio just starts going like spinning and it's scanning through all the channels, and I'm like, and I'm like, I have my hands up, I'm like, I'm not doing that, I'm not touching that. Like, it just I didn't nobody touch the radio. My kid was in the back seat, I had my hands on the steering wheel, like I have no idea like how that even happened. And I was like, Okay, that's really weird, and then the volume started going up, and I'm like, Okay, I'm just gonna turn the car off now. I posted a video about that, and somebody commented on it and was like, you know, there's a witness tree at Mr. G's, right? And I was like, No, I didn't know that. And then you literally go to Mr. G's, and there's like, I don't know, a hundred signs that say be careful of the witness tree roots, and I'm like, I never even noticed that. And the tree is like was there during the battle. And they're like, Oh, that's cool. I didn't even know that.

SPEAKER_02 43:25

Okay, now you got me looking that up because I'm gonna be there at the Baltimore Street sycamore tree. Because I actually wanted to go to that ice cream shop, but the long the line is always so fucking long.

SPEAKER_04 43:37

Yeah, but it's so good. The furniture that they have inside where you can sit to eat your ice cream is all made out of the sycamore tree, like when branches fall. Somebody like made the I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what I heard. Like they made the furniture in there. Like that's well, yeah, that would probably rile it up, you know.

SPEAKER_03 43:55

By the way, I feel like you saw you both saw the entity. And uh with the blue uniform and like you said it like ran like it went into your camper. I just imagine like the first thing I went to in my mind was like hilariously you like wake up in the morning like oh how'd you sleep, honey? Oh, I slept pretty good, and then you roll it over, and the guy in the blue is like, Oh, how'd you guys sleep? Pretty good. Oh shit.

SPEAKER_04 44:18

Oh my god, I would be terrified if I woke up so hot.

SPEAKER_02 44:24

He's like, I'll tap in your coffee for tobacco.

SPEAKER_03 44:28

Oh my god, you guys going on the front line today?

SPEAKER_04 44:32

And like we'll hear weird stuff in the camper because obviously it's like so quiet, and there's like no one where our camper is, there's like no one near it, and we always go like on the weekdays, so literally nobody's there, and we'll just hear like things, and like the other day we heard like both sound like footsteps in the camper. I was like, I have to pee, but I'm getting up, I'm not getting up, I'm scared. I'm honestly more afraid of the bugs than the ghosts, like all the ghosts can come, yeah. But the bugs away.

SPEAKER_02 45:03

Bugs at campgrounds in general suck.

SPEAKER_04 45:06

Oh my there was a bug this big and it had pinchers, and it was like walking around the bathroom floor, like at the campground. And I went in there because I was like, Oh, I'm just walking around, I'll just go to the bathroom here really quick. And it was like walking around the floor, it had collected everybody's hair, and it had collected other dead bugs in the hair. I will send you the picture, it is disgusting. And it was and I'm not kidding when it was this big and it had pinchers. I have no idea what what it was, it was terrifying. I was like, Yeah, I'm just not peeing in here, like that's fine.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

So, like, have you so aside from the ice cream shop, like have you seen like because you've probably been to Gettysburg as many times as I have, and I guess fortunately or unfortunately, I haven't seen anything.

SPEAKER_04 45:55

After we investigated Jenny Wade in the orphanage on our way home, we were like, let's just drive around the battlefield and see if we get anything. And I think I told you this last time too, but we turn the car off and we like stop, and not even like 30 seconds later, I hear like horses' hooves like on the concrete, and I hear a man's voice, and I go, and I'm like, I turned that car back on, and we we flew out of there. Like it didn't even take that long. Like, I swear, like, I don't know if we attract it, like the energies, or if we're like, I don't know if we're just like a beacon of light, and they're like, Oh, they hear us, they can see us. We're we're doing this. Like, I have no idea why that always happens.

SPEAKER_02 46:42

No, I I think there's some validity to that beacon of light type of thing. It's like those TV shows that they deal with like people that can see ghosts and stuff like that, and then they encounter a situation where like the person encounters a demon or or a ghost or something, and it's like, wait, I know you can see me type of thing. And it's like, oh shit, yeah, I can.

SPEAKER_04 47:07

My son is starting to see it now. Oh no, I gave you the trait.

SPEAKER_02 47:12

Uh-oh, that's fun. Hey honey, what what demon did you see last night? Well, the one that smokes and sits on the toilet. Yeah, I saw him.

SPEAKER_04 47:23

Did I tell you that? Like, I can't remember if I told you or not, but like not so in 2025 when we went to Pennhurst, we took my son, and they're like, he can't take anything from the property, right? And he's a five-year-old, he picks up a rock, and like it was probably a rock to a building that had like was falling down, and he put it in his pocket. I didn't know. And by the time we get home, I'm like, you know, changing him into bed clothes. I'm like, where did you get this rock? And he's like, Pan host, and I'm like, Great, now we gotta drive back three hours. So, like, I still have this rock in my room, but like that night he fell asleep and he wakes up and he's like panting, and he's like, mommy! I'm like, what what what? He said, I saw a yellow man, I saw a yellow man, and he was wearing like a white coat, and I'm like, That's it, the rock's going back, and you know, me being me, I'm like, uh, what what did he look like? And he's like, he didn't have any eyes, and I was like, Great, and you just stole this freaking rock from Pennhurst, and you probably brought home a frickin' demon or something, I don't know. But I saged the whole house, I saged that rock. Um, after that, he didn't have any more of those streams, but I'm like, that's just like that's that's lovely. And he saw something last week too at my mom's house, and I'm like, that's great.

SPEAKER_02 48:48

That's oh, what did he say?

SPEAKER_04 48:51

And so he my mom's house is haunted as shit, like it's so haunted.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

More haunted than the one you lived in?

SPEAKER_04 48:58

Um no. So this one is like it's just a man. I mean, it's a woman and a younger boy that kind of reside in the house. They're not negative or anything. I believe they were murdered. Saw how the woman was murdered, and I really want to go to the archives in my neighborhood and see if there's anything I can dig up on it. He wanted to come home the other night and he refused to be near my like walk anywhere in my mom's house by himself because he said he saw this yellow. He describes him as yellow. He said he saw this yellow lady, and I was like, Okay, and I knew exactly, like, obviously, I've seen her. Um, and I'm like, okay, like what did she look like? And he was like, I don't know, just like a woman, and it was like the outline of a lady. Um I was like, Okay, well, like, how did it make you feel? And he was like, Um, not bad, but it scared me. And I was like, Okay, well, like, why did it scare you? And he was like, Because she just showed up in the doorway, and I was like, Oh, okay, all right, and then I couldn't really get much more information out of it. Um, but he's told my wife that there's a ghost at my mom's house named Elizabeth. Now I really want to go like try and see if I can figure out who lived on that land, it's all farmland back in the day, but the first time my mom moved in like five years ago, um, I pulled up to the house and then get all the energy. Like, I get all the visions, I see everything. I see the woman in the attic window. Um, the woman's more prevalent than the boy, but and then I saw how she was murdered. She was like, I'll have I'll send you a picture, but of my mom's backyard. But from my mom's backyard, you can see the field, and there's this one tree, like all the way far back in the middle of this cornfield. And I see her like right near the tree, and she's on her hands and her knees, and she's she looks like she's in late 1800s, early 1900s attire, and she's out in the field and looks like she's either burying something or planting something. I couldn't really tell, I couldn't decipher it. And she doesn't know this man has walked up behind her and her hands over the hole of whatever she's burying or planting, so I can't really see what it is. And she turns around and there's a man in a straw hat, and he's wearing like a um a button-up looking shirt. Um, like he was kind of like a farmer and he had on like slacks, and he all I see is him whack her, and I have no idea what he hit her with, and that was that was all I saw, but uh he definitely killed her. And I even sent a picture of the photo of my mom's backyard in a psychic group, and a woman messaged me, and she googled all of these photos, and she said, Okay, this is what the man kind of looked like he was wearing, this is what the lady looked like, this is the clothes that looked like she was wearing, and she told me the same exact thing, and that was kind of when I was like, Oh shit. Like I do see stuff like that was but I I can't I feel like the boy was murdered, but I can't I didn't really I don't know, but he is blue, so I don't there's really no water around our house because we live in farmland, so I don't really I don't really know, but he is definitely early 1900s because he's got the little he's got little slacks on um with the overall thing, yes, the suspenders, yeah. Yep, and he's now I don't know if they're related or if they're just you know two spirits that are kind of attached to one another. Um my mom has said she she texted me one night, she said, I can't leave my room because my son, his ball moved across the floor while she was like, and she lives by herself, and I'm like, mm-hmm, okay, yeah, maybe don't leave your bedroom. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03 52:49

Bring me bring me some soup.

SPEAKER_04 52:52

Yeah, and there's like we we had to live there for a little bit with her um before we bought our house because there was like that weird lol where our house sold and we didn't get to buy a house yet, and we had to live in her attic. And um, I was like, Yeah, they're up here in the attic, and I was terrified I would not go up there by myself without at least two dogs or a person, um, just because I was so scared because I I don't know, you don't want that stuff in your house. I'll go out and search for it somewhere else, but I don't want it in my house.

SPEAKER_02 53:20

But Becca, I did have like a couple of other questions for you. Now that you've opened yourself up to like your psychic abilities and you're doing Reiki, how do you handle like when you just go out into public or you're at work and you like start picking up on stuff? Like, how do you do you have like a method or some sort of mechanism that you do to not let it affect your mood?

SPEAKER_04 53:46

Yeah, so I've got to ground myself, right? Um, the only way to I feel like sometimes if something's starting to affect me is to go outside and ground myself. Now that I am reiki attuned, I'll breathe in, you know, positive life force energy. There's like a certain way that you breathe it in from the top and from your so from your root chakra chakra and from your crown chakra. And then you just imagine this big bright ball of light, of you know, universal love force energy, and it expands with every breath until it basically encompasses your entire body. And I after that I feel I feel great, I feel fine. Um, if I don't really have time to do that, I kind of just like I'm like, all right, I'm touching my chair, I'm bringing myself back in because sometimes I will get sucked into that other realm, or sure, like that's kind of what I call it. I'm not sure if that's the right word for it. Um, where I'm like seeing things in another perspective. Um, I just have to pull myself back in and I have to ground myself. So I'll start ground like I'm like, okay, my feet are on the ground, I'm holding my chair, I'm gonna, I'm gonna take my water, I'm gonna take a drink, I'll try and you know, smell a fragrance, or I'll take my coastal smudge spray that I make, I'll spray myself, and I'm like, okay, I'm cool, I'm calm, I'm collected. Sometimes when I'm just too busy, I just unfortunately feel things, and I'm like, all right, leave me alone right now. I'll talk to you later.

SPEAKER_02 55:17

Yeah, just not now, please. Yes, I don't have time for this. It's funny, funny you mentioned that. Like my cousin, like, he told me a story of like he was asleep in his room. This is probably like oh my god, like maybe 2010 or 2009. And he said he was sleeping, he was in bed, he was sleeping, and he felt like something like pressing down on him. He was like laying on his back and he was like pressing down on him. And he like literally said out loud, he like opened his eyes and he's like, Yo, fucking stop. I gotta get up early. I don't got time for this shit right now. And it and it stopped, which was hilarious. So I feel like there's something to it. The last question I have for you, Becca, do you think now that you've kind of opened yourself up to this stuff that you would be willing to dabble in um I don't know, like divination duels, like Ouija boards, because you have one like on the wall back there, or tarot cards, right?

SPEAKER_04 56:30

Yeah, um I'm not like a tarot expert, but I sure I do like to pull cards for myself. Um now I haven't done the Ouija board yet. Um I feel like really any investigative tools. There people are so afraid of a Ouija board, but like you're asking spirits to come through other devices, it's kind of the same thing, same thing. Um they're just manipulating those devices, whereas if it was a Ouija board, you're asking them to manipulate manipulate you and your energy to move the planchette so you can, you know, spell out the words. Um like you're being guided by spirits. So I I I understand it, but if we're going under and we're doing the Estes method or I don't know, using the dowsing rod, you're asking for energy to be manipulated somehow to get answers. So, but yeah, I would I definitely would.

SPEAKER_02 57:24

Awesome, Becca. Thank you again for coming on for a third time. This has been awesome. I totally did not expect to go down a conversation about uh Riki and all that fun stuff. I've always been fascinated about that, so I'm glad I had the chance to actually talk to someone that's actually starting out practicing because I think to me it's kind of hard to get people to talk about that stuff because you know you feel like if you're not among other practitioners or people that like fully believe in it or are actually getting it done, you know, people think like, oh, okay, you're just gonna say it's bullshit or something like that. So it's one of the things that I've always been curious about because I'll be driving around and I see like reflexology and like Ray Reiki and all that stuff. I'm like, I'm always fascinated by that. So it was good to get some insight on someone that's actually starting out and and learning about it. So um, but again, thank you for coming on for a third time. Would like to have you back on again um at some point in the future. Uh, but before we let you go, where can the people find you?

SPEAKER_04 58:35

Yep, so you can find me on TikTok, Instagram, and YouTube at third eye becca.

SPEAKER_02 58:41

You heard her, folks. Go ahead and give her a follow, check out her videos, check out her paranormal investigation videos, because based off of what she shared with me today, I'm sure those are really interesting to take a look at that evidence.

SPEAKER_00 58:53

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