
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Find the Toxic Hormone Disrupters in Kid’s Skincare/ guest comedian Rene Lancaster
We're thrilled to have Rene Lancaster join the podcast, adding his witty insights as a writer, comedian, and director. Rene talks about his upcoming pilot, "Making Rent," and the collaboration and creativity that went into its production. We also turn our focus to a more serious topic: the hidden dangers lurking in children's skincare products, especially with the rise of TikTok marketing. Together, we tackle how these harmful ingredients, like phthalates, might bring about adult health issues in children. But we end with some helpful applications that will help you identify the ingredients and even give alternatives to the products that you don’t want easily.
Helpful apps:
Think Dirty
Scan a product's barcode to learn about potentially toxic ingredients in skincare, cosmetics, and personal care products
Yuka
Scans the barcode of food products or cosmetics to rate them
Detox Me
Offers information about ingredients, tips for avoiding products, and alternatives to toxic chemicals in categories like home, food and drink, clothing, personal care, cleaning, and children.
CodeCheck
Helps you make informed shopping decisions by checking if a product contains harmful ingredients or has been sustainably produced
SkinSAFE
Helps you screen skin-care products for chemicals to avoid. You can receive alerts when products are added or updated to your “safe list”
Clearya
Alerts shoppers of potentially toxic ingredients in products and suggests safe alternatives
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Speaker 2:Welcome back. Welcome back to you. Yeah, I never left. I don't leave. I don't know why you say welcome back, I do not leave here. I mean, I don't leave here. You don't leave here. That's how some of my relatives would say it. I don't leave here. You don't leave here. That's how some of my relatives would say it. I don't leave here. And you're like God, this person. Do they not live here? Or are they just never going to leave? You don't know.
Speaker 1:It explains a lot of the dirty looks that we get around here. Exactly, you're not supposed to be here, yeah.
Speaker 2:I don't know what people say. You're not supposed to be here and I'm Do you mean that like existentially? Because you know so I, just until they kick me out, I'll stay here.
Speaker 1:All right, we'll just be there. I'm Nikki Davis Jr. There's no Nikki Davis Sr. I am a licensed comedian, stand-up esthetician. Yeah 30 years doing skincare and with me. Oh, by the way, subscribe while you're here. There's no button above here that says subscribe, but I'm just going to point to it anyway. Subscribe, just hit. Subscribe makes me look good.
Speaker 2:We don't really care if you watch it, um, just subscribe yeah, and then right over here we're going to put a little piece of invisible air and you're going to see it on the screen. It'll go whoop. Yeah, invisible air. We'll put it in post. It's gonna be just like a little blank spot that my fingers you basically just see my, my fingers do this okay, yeah my uh index and my thumb very high tech, and that's it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and it's it. We'll put it in post, okay okay, yeah uh, and with me, as usual, is my boyfriend. No, you uh slash, uh. Oh, my god, I just noticed the little toy behind you, the little muppet. Oh, the little Muppet.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, it looks like me.
Speaker 1:I was going to say that, but I didn't want to. It's like slash Sherpa, slash set decorators and Sondra Yocolano.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I made all this stuff myself.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you hand wove. It's all hand woven.
Speaker 2:I wove it, I wove it.
Speaker 1:I wove it too.
Speaker 2:It's so nice. No, I wove it.
Speaker 1:I wove it too. Yeah, I love it.
Speaker 2:I wove you. Okay, I love you yeah.
Speaker 1:Well, sometimes you don't laugh at my joke, you just acknowledge it.
Speaker 2:Well, because here's the thing it's sometimes almost like a text message where you want to tag it on top of it.
Speaker 1:It's, it's almost like in a conversation you're having. Yeah. So sometimes I'm like, okay, how can I, you know? But if I was like a normal person, I would just be like, oh my, that's funny, you know. Or you would just be like, ha, that's what you get from a lot of comics.
Speaker 2:They don't want to acknowledge that something you said was funny it's just ha yeah, well, I don't even think it's that, I think it's a comics laugh more than anyone. And I feel like we, just we sometimes we don't have it in us.
Speaker 1:You know, sometimes you're just like you think they laugh more than anyone? I feel like they laugh less than anyone I was making a joke oh, okay, damn it comics are miserable. I miss a lot of jokes too, by the way.
Speaker 2:No, not all, not all. Not all the comics, just the ones that I don't talk to yeah, that's perfect.
Speaker 1:I always, I always joke uh to myself about how I the reason why I got into acting is so I can have something to talk about with the people I hate yeah.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I always picture myself in the front of the comedy store, in the bar, talking to people in their commercials and stuff like that. Sorry, I'm itching, I have a rash yeah.
Speaker 2:I was going to say why are you itching? That's so weird.
Speaker 1:Put in the comments if you know how to get rid of this rash. I've been to the dermatologist. Uh, I know I should. I just I refuse to use the um, the steroids that they're giving me. I'm just gonna just wait it out. But I wake up in the middle of the night and just scratch the shit out of it did you notice me doing that last night?
Speaker 2:I did not. No, I was sound asleep that's good. I'm glad you were sleeping well yeah, well, it's not that, it's just that, like we have different, you know, you had something going on and then I was just like I, I gotta go to bed, you know, and that was pretty much it yeah, okay, well, thank you for your uh yeah I, if I'd known you were like up there. First of all, you're scratching, not itching that's true, you know you don't apologize for itching.
Speaker 2:That's something you can't control. Yeah, apologize for scratching right, because sometimes my throat itch and I have to like cough, but I don't and I let it go and then my eyes start tearing up and my eyes start tearing because I'm not coughing and I'm sitting there and I. Normally it's like I just got it. Normally I get into an Uber and that happens and I don't want to cough because the person's you know you're in the back or in the front? In the back. I never go in the front, okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I mean, like you're the driver in the back.
Speaker 2:Well, if I drive country I'm in, but I usually drive from the front, Drive from the front. I drive from the front typically.
Speaker 1:Sitting backwards, facing the other direction. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So I just realized the lighting. If I put my hand in front of my face, it blocks the lighting.
Speaker 1:Yeah, don't do that, you're going to need it.
Speaker 2:Man, I got a lot of dark circles, but I-.
Speaker 1:I know I don't work on him enough. Honestly, I really need to start working on you more often.
Speaker 2:You don't have to work on me.
Speaker 1:Well, just to move your lymph.
Speaker 2:You move your lymph.
Speaker 1:Tell me to move my lymph.
Speaker 2:Your lymph needs moving. My lymph, it's pretty lymph Lymph.
Speaker 1:Lymph, no lymph, right yeah, lymph, it was Christine Little, she goes.
Speaker 2:Lymph, yeah, limp, yeah. And I, if you're a pirate, you get an eye patch or a lymph. No, that's right. Yeah, oh that. Okay, that was her. Yeah, that's really funny. That was funny. That's the one I do too. What that's funny that was. Uh, that's our bad improv that's funny so I'm just teaching me um how to do bad improv yep, typically the yes, and we like to do, uh, something different yeah, no, and obviously, but then yeah, try something different. Yeah, and when no, and obviously. But then yeah, try something different.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And when somebody gives like something you know like and then just go, that was awful.
Speaker 1:That was awful. Yeah, she let them know. Wait, hold on a second, let me think, yeah.
Speaker 2:Let me think about that for a second.
Speaker 1:Can you guys come back to me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. So I wanted to ask you a question, and this is probably the wrong time to do it. What's today's show about?
Speaker 1:Today's show is we're going to talk about some of the ingredients that are really not great in kids' skin care.
Speaker 2:Oh really, Kids' skin care yeah.
Speaker 1:Harmful products in children's skin care products. Harmful, I'm sorry, harmful ingredients, so you can edit that when you do the teaser later. Harmful ingredients in children's skincare um, more and more we're seeing, uh, you know, like with the tiktoks and everything uh, kids that's being they're being targeted to buy skincare stuff and there's stuff in there that's really not good for a developing child no, not at all.
Speaker 2:And they're also finding stuff that, like kids are also developing, stuff that adults would have later on. But because of like the stuff that they're giving, like I, I met a four-year-old with a bad back and, uh, there was this like I don't remember, I think it was like I was living food and it was like this I think it was 10 year old was complaining of his sciatica, and so I was like man, these products they're giving these kids now it, it's just they're aging them tremendously.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, absolutely, you know yeah. So, it's cool. So that's what we're talking about.
Speaker 2:So you want to start that early Kids products. That's terrible to put that in kids products. I know I think animal testing is awful. They should test it on kids really. That's what I'm saying, because animals are adorable. They stay that size typically, um, you know, I'm sorry to steal your joke. What's that? Did I steal what you were gonna say? No, no, not at all. I was gonna say that I, I, you know, don't, don't harm the animals.
Speaker 2:That's basically what I was gonna say, because I'm just joking obviously babies are something I don't have right, yeah, so thank god I know right yeah I don't have the trunk space yeah and I'm not saying that to keep the baby back.
Speaker 2:I'm saying like to put everything that I'd have to put in the back, although pulling up to somebody and delivering food to them, thinking you know, practically and having a bunch and making sure they come out, having like three different car seats in the car right, completely empty, and then just you know, pretending like I have a baby or maybe I have a baby in my front and in my back, so they feel sorry for you yeah.
Speaker 2:So I'm just delivering and I'm holding all their groceries and I'm like an hour late and it's all ice cream, it's all melted.
Speaker 1:Can you guys just subscribe so he doesn't have to keep doing this job, for God's sake? No, I love it, you love it, I love it. My car's in.
Speaker 2:And no, it's fine. No, I'm just kidding, I make light of it, but I am miserable. So it's fine, I'm so glad we're together, man. No, I jest.
Speaker 1:I love being happy in your misery.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's not bad.
Speaker 1:It's my favorite part of our relationship.
Speaker 2:Sometimes it's just a comparison, that you need the contrast. You know it's like I'm not necessarily happy, but when somebody next to me is, you know, miserable, I'm like oh yeah things, and I pat them on the back and I go thank you, and then I walk off and usually I pat them on the back hard enough, they fly into traffic so, but um, so, anyways, bad stuff and kids yeah, bad stuff and kids bad ingredients, harmful ingredients, with kids skincare, um.
Speaker 1:But I'm really super excited about our guest today.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:I'm going to let you bring him out. Thank, you.
Speaker 2:That's very nice of you not to research our guest. I know him as a person. We've known him for probably the same amount of time. Yeah, I like the reference that these are people that we love. Typically it's always our friends. It's always our friends or it's new people that come highly recommended to us or are just very funny or have something to say. And this guy is very, very talented. Guy, right, is that cool? I can say, guy, I'll allow it, okay.
Speaker 1:Thank you.
Speaker 2:It's like a judge was, I'll allow it, but he's very, very talented. He's a writer, he's a comedian. He's a very talented director. I was in his latest project that he spent so much time putting together and shooting and reshooting and just having to adapt to other actors and other people in comedy other comedians, their schedules and whatnot and everything, and so he's done a fantastic pilot that I got to be a part of and I'm gonna let you, uh, let you, I'm gonna let him tell that's how I think he's in front of me. I'm gonna let him tell us all about it. Um, but, uh, it's called making rent. Uh, did I spell that right?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay do you usually do this much um like uh?
Speaker 2:exposition in an intro no, I really love this guy and uh, okay you're taking his, his airtime.
Speaker 1:I'm not taking his air time, I'm taking his air.
Speaker 2:All right, let's bring up to the couch, uh, one of my best friends and super funny dude, very talented renee lancaster. Oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Thank you for having me. Thank you for the kind words, sandro. Oh, dude, they're all true. I was so thrilled to have you in the pilot, by the way, sandro, fantastic actor thanks for asking me, by the way. Thanks, I appreciate it sandra, you didn't tell her, yeah uh I asked for you he said anybody but nikki.
Speaker 2:But your name was mentioned yeah, it's true, yeah, man, it was. It was a lot of fun to be a part of he talked about how much fun he had oh, thank you yeah, it was fun yeah, man, you're very talented oh, thank you so much.
Speaker 3:Thank you, yeah, so, so true. By the way, the hardest part if anyone is uh thinking about shooting a pilot with virtually no money, uh, scheduling is the hardest, hardest part by far. Oh right, because then you're like you're like hey, sandra, are you available? To say you're like no, I'm out of town. I'm like okay, next week. And then I'm like, hey, camera guy, are you available? Say he's like no, now I'm out of town.
Speaker 2:And I'm like great, yeah yeah, oh my god, and that's the thing too is like I and I totally appreciate you even being like okay, well, I'll just work around. I'll work around because every time I try to do it something came up. Just you know, life happens, uh, but it's, the product came out when it did, when it did. But I'm saying like, for that reason, like it's, it's great man so whatever needed to be it needed to come out when it did and when you did it what's it about?
Speaker 3:um, essentially about trying to survive in la with really bad luck that's a great topic. I mean, like so many people can relate to that, or people who don't live here should actually probably be happy for the people who live here and have bad luck, yeah well, yeah, I I kind of uh I rewrote it during uh, like covid, because I at the time I felt like you know, like what's that murphy's law, where anything can't go wrong will go wrong, it's just like yeah and I'm like, like why, why is this happening?
Speaker 3:like, why is?
Speaker 2:so yeah, yeah but it's good that you like you. I hope people watch it because you get to see you in like I don't know it's your element man like you're playing into, like you know your life, but in like such a great perspective yeah, it's very a lot of.
Speaker 3:There's a lot of real stuff. A lot of stuff is taken from something that actually happened to me and then with a little more, yeah, yeah, little embellishment, but most of it's pretty real really yeah, yeah, feel bad for him, yeah, uh, it's part of the story, it's just what it is.
Speaker 2:But, um, speaking of bad, yeah, and this is something we're going to interweave in and out because, uh, uh. Our topic today obviously is the bad stuff they put in skincare. Now, how young, is too young for a baby to get a facial massage?
Speaker 1:there's no age that any baby can get.
Speaker 2:What if a baby gets a facial massage and they look so young that it makes them go back into their mother's vagina, because that's what the facial makes you like. How can? How young can a baby look?
Speaker 1:You know I'm not answering you. Okay, they can look as young as they are. Thank, you. No, but specifically I was going to talk about kids that are like even as like you know, tweens, but even as old as like between four and eight years old. There's a lot of stuff that's in their skincare products that are disrupting to your hormones, and there's been some recent studies that have been done on that.
Speaker 1:So it's really bad actually. Um, uh, let's see, I on September 9th, on um, I read and heard, on all things considered, there was an article by Maria Godoy, a new study that um recent skincare products like lotions and ointments, uh, conditioners and they've got Did you say hair conditioner?
Speaker 2:No, not air conditioner. Oh, hair conditioners okay.
Speaker 1:No, the HC, not the AC.
Speaker 2:Okay, nice.
Speaker 1:They have really high levels of chemicals called phthalates Phthalates I can't say it.
Speaker 3:Phthalates.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's P-H-T-H-A-L-A-T-E-S. So that h t h a l a t e s, so that that explains why I look so bad. I'm just gonna blame it on the phthalates. Yeah, yeah, exactly yeah. It's like hey, this is.
Speaker 2:I just look like the phthalates guys, this is a phthalate guy you'd blow people away like, oh my god, he's into his phthalates he knows his phthalates.
Speaker 1:It's the phthalates days, yeah, like the salad days boom the what the salad days. Don't you know that reference? Are you that young, jesus christ? I'm not that, you know, I'm not that young, was it good alex okay thank you, alex our producer, alex, said it was good the salad days oh, it's like the. It's like the days of, like, you know, when things were great, you know, like we could say like pre-covid salad days. Those were the salad days. I didn't know.
Speaker 2:I thought it was like the lean days, like all you could eat was salad like it's like or maybe that's like. Those are the cheese and those are the cheese and bread days you know, yeah, that makes sense, yeah, but the salad?
Speaker 1:days, I never heard about that, yeah, the salad, the salad day, that's cool.
Speaker 2:So the phthalate days, the phthalate days um, when we were kids, the phthalate days, yeah, yeah, that's right exactly those were the.
Speaker 3:That's interesting. They currently are the phthalate days, when we were kids.
Speaker 1:The phthalate days. Yeah, that's right, exactly that's interesting and they currently are the phthalate days for the kids that are now being exposed to a lot of new skincare products.
Speaker 2:I was going to say it can't be much of a phthalate day salad day for them if they're exposed to all these phthalates.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you had to have the big phthalate. What?
Speaker 1:is it that's Seinfeld? Oh, okay, oh, the big phthalate, yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:Okay, Nikki. What is bad skin product care?
Speaker 1:Well, okay, so we're talking about phthalates. They're a group of chemicals that they add to skincare products to make. First of all, they add them to plastics to make them more flexible so that's not a good thing and more durable, but they do also use them in some personal skincare products and they're endocrine disruptors, so um, which just means that it interrupts your hormones. So it explains why. It can explain why girls are getting their periods at a much younger age because they're being exposed to all of these phthalates and chemicals. As an adult, it's not as detrimental because they don't stay in your body for too long, at least not the phthalates. I'm not. That's the only one ingredient I'm talking about, but I'm sure there's others. But with children it's different. I think they're finding more and more of it is staying in their bodies when they're doing the testing and stuff like that. And that's what's it. Just it blocks your interferes with your hormones.
Speaker 2:What is your back hair?
Speaker 3:Is it, the pituitary. Yeah, that's why I put my hand back there.
Speaker 1:Yeah, um, so, yeah, so that's uh, that's one of the uh so like, how long would this stuff?
Speaker 2:so you're talking about like young girls having their periods earlier, like younger than like typical. Uh, when would they have like started to use this skincare? So this is stuff that just people use, like they give to their kids, specifically designed for their kids.
Speaker 1:Well, first of all, they're probably buying skincare as a parent, they're probably buying skincare products you know and not knowing what's, uh, you know, in the ingredients. People don't look yeah.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I think it's only recently that you shouldn't use craft baby skincare. Don't use something that has something else like if a company makes patrol, if they make gasoline, like exxon, they have terrible lip balm.
Speaker 3:So is this like for, like soap or like lotion or all of it?
Speaker 1:all of it okay, because I was gonna say.
Speaker 3:For some reason I was like stuck on lotion in my head, I think, because when you hear skincare you think of, like lotions and I'm like, how many babies or little kids are using lotion? I'm like, oh wait, no, it must be like the soap too.
Speaker 1:Like, yeah, okay because I'm like when I was a kid.
Speaker 3:I definitely didn't use lotion at all.
Speaker 1:You didn't use lotion, but you're. But they do sell baby lotion, right?
Speaker 2:I mean your parents did at some point use something, or they. They buy something because it says baby on it right and they think it's healthier for you, you know well. And then?
Speaker 1:there's baby oil, which we were uh right discussing the other day just in private yeah, we were discussing baby oil in private.
Speaker 2:Yup, in private, but like, why would?
Speaker 1:you put oil on a baby? Who? What have you ever put oil on a baby?
Speaker 2:Renee, so many babies? Yeah, I don't understand. You make them slipperier, which is worse.
Speaker 1:Yeah, nobody likes an oily baby.
Speaker 2:And they've been like oh, this baby's ashy.
Speaker 1:Like this baby's got dry's, you would put more of a powder on that oh right. Yeah. Not oil, yeah Baby oil is like, I mean, get me wrong, I don't know, I don't know much about stuff.
Speaker 2:Did you say get me wrong, get me wrong here, but I don't that in Baby Oil Petroleum.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think that petroleum is. They skim the top off of whatever. That is that you're talking about. The milk. No Off the. You know like what they're making, like the oily stuff or whatever, yeah yeah, yeah, there's like a scum that's sort of on the top and that's basically like what Vaseline is, I think. Okay, oh, I'm not 100% sure and sorry, vaseline.
Speaker 2:It doesn't smell like Vaseline, smells like it belongs in a gas station.
Speaker 1:It actually does.
Speaker 2:It does. Yeah, it must be the petroleum, yeah petroleum jelly. Yeah, they don't have electric jelly now, but like all the Teslas out you know.
Speaker 1:Electric jelly.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they feel like you know, like big Vaseline is going to come back because they have all these electric, it doesn't matter anymore, big Vaseline is going to come back because they have all these electric, it doesn't matter anymore. Wait what you're saying, Don't use craft baby lotion.
Speaker 1:What's the skincare? Oh, Purina, I think there was another one.
Speaker 3:Dog food.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I don't know if it was specifically a skincare product, but you'll see something like that. It's like some of these weird I would say, like Johnson and Johnson is probably a good example. You know the one, the company that I had stock in many years ago.
Speaker 2:But it's also like Nestle, Like when Nestle went from like making Toll House cookies, right, Cookies. So then now, like I mean, I know it's a big company, so they do whatever, but you're used to that. And then they now they, they have their own water like Nestle water.
Speaker 1:Like I'm sure yeah, so I'm like you.
Speaker 2:Just, you made diabetic food your entire life and now you're gonna, you're switching over into water. It's like I don't trust you, I don't trust your water. No, and not at all. But anyways, let's corporations uh, they're not gonna be around very long. It's gonna, it's gonna, it's, it's a fad, it's a fad yeah, money's gonna be, money's gonna be phased out. Yeah and when we're gonna just probably have, you know, ear hair will be something that we trade.
Speaker 1:Mark his words right now. Renee, do you seem interested in this?
Speaker 3:So, what's the good? Like stuff to do or the like for, like less phthalates.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, you want to look for more natural products At the end of what we're talking about. I'm just going to run through some of the stuff that I found in the article. I'm going to list some, some, so stay tuned for that. I'm going to list some. Well, I want people to keep watching um, but apps that you can actually put and kids can actually put on their phones if they're going to be somewhere like you know a kid that's old enough to walk into, like save on or they have save on anymore.
Speaker 3:I don't cvs whatever, yeah, yeah, I was like oh, save onon. Do you remember Savon, of course.
Speaker 1:And Thrifty Yep, thrifty ice cream.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was going to say that's Rite Aid, now right. Or at least they just, but they kept the ice cream.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they did keep the ice cream. The ice cream is called.
Speaker 3:Thrifty. I haven't had it. Let's go get some Thrifty ice cream.
Speaker 1:It like it. It's got like the frozen ice on the top of it yeah, yeah, that's.
Speaker 2:That's not bad. That's bad for ice cream. That's the worst kind of ice cream. That's worse than having no ice cream is having the one that's like icy has ice in it and like it's crunchy freezer burn, freezer burn.
Speaker 1:Is that what it is?
Speaker 2:yeah, yeah yeah, I don't, uh, it's almost like ah, you would still eat it, don't lie.
Speaker 1:Of course I would still eat it, but then I would add other things to it. You know, I would add other accoutrements.
Speaker 2:Wash it down with snickers bar. Yeah, wash it down with a snickers bar. Maybe you know a couple of reese's sticks sticks yeah, you bite them off. Yeah, it's like a twix, but it's just like. It's like wafer. What am I telling you about?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah, yeah. What are you talking about? What are you telling us?
Speaker 2:we all live very close to 7-elelevens.
Speaker 1:That's true. We live between two 7-Elevens, which should be the name of our next podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:We'll have Zach Galifianakis on and call between two 7-Elevens. Do you see, between two ferns?
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, do you know Zach Galifianakis?
Speaker 3:I do not personally know him.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:But them right. Yes, but I also live next to a 7-eleven, so you do too.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think that's just part of the deal. When you're in los angeles, yeah. When you're here, they yeah, 7-eleven's your your go-to yeah that was my diet for a lot of years and I it was the worst years of my life well and it's it's bled into some of the best years of real life, when you started seeing me exactly that's true.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, see, yeah, yeah, yeah, don't buy any baby products at 7-eleven no, I you know what my um this is not even sometimes I say things that aren't funny. You guys, I know you don't believe that, but um, I'm gonna say something that isn't funny. Um, that's not funny yeah, um anything that has a commercial I try to stay away from because if they're big enough to have that kind of money to put out their cutting corners
Speaker 2:they got shareholders they got shareholders, that's right you got to keep increasing the the profits.
Speaker 1:So, yeah, I like how you did that with your. You're not watching, listening.
Speaker 3:You know that makes sense because, like, if you go get you know organic products, or at least it's.
Speaker 3:Another thing is that you know that supposedly they're organic you know, I don't know, I don't, I don't, I don't have a lab to test, but like yeah I've never I've never heard of them and I'm just like, oh, this, this says it's natural, organic, I'll buy it it's almost better if I don't recognize the name normally it, whatever it is, if it's a skincare like it feels better or tastes better, so like I believe it but, yeah, but yeah, you know, you never see ads for it, so that makes sense.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I believe it, it's got leaves on the label, so it must be good it says harvest on it. Yeah, harvest. It says harvest. It's like oh wow. This was made in a lab dude, it's harvested in a lab, nobody's grandmother is making this loaf of bread.
Speaker 2:This is the machine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's fascinating Speaking of the machine. Speaking of the machine, yeah so, yeah so, some of these products that they're putting out are actually they're showing that they're having negative impacts on their brain development.
Speaker 3:Yikes.
Speaker 1:Behavioral problems and other health kind of concerns.
Speaker 3:I wonder how much, like if it's like after like a few uses it starts, or like I think it's over a course of time, is it like permanent?
Speaker 1:Yeah, I think it Sheesh. Yeah, because you're using those kinds of products every day. It's just constantly being put. Your skin is your largest organ and anything you put on it you're putting inside your body. You think about it that way.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:That's fascinating. True, the same way that when you smell something, you're actually breathing in the molecules of that thing.
Speaker 3:It just blows me away Because it's going into your body.
Speaker 1:When you smell people.
Speaker 2:You're breathing those molecules.
Speaker 1:You know some characters by 7-Eleven tend to oh dude, yeah, yeah, yeah, you don't want that in your nostril.
Speaker 2:Yeah, they say you go into a public restroom. You're like oh man.
Speaker 3:So many molecules Inside and out. Dude, how restroom you're like, oh man so many molecules.
Speaker 2:Now dude, how many phthalates am I?
Speaker 1:breathing in somebody's dropping some phthalates dropping some phthalates well, you know um, let's see what else goldman uh. So I guess, uh, let's see concerns about the thalass exposure. Uh, they've often been focused on the diet, um, since they can leach into your food from plastic packaging, which we've been talking a lot about. Even the bottle that you're using from the CS where you work, I think it's plastic inside of it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, it's not metal. It's metal on the outside, yeah, but then they coat it on the inside.
Speaker 3:Oh, I thought the inside was metal. Oh, this is definitely plastic.
Speaker 2:The inside is metal too, but the inside it's coated with plastic, like a thin, thin layer of plastic. Why? To help it, so the water's not touching and it protects the bottle.
Speaker 1:And so don't if you take it home, don't scrub that. You don't want to like anything that's got plastic on it. Even if you have synthetic clothing, which I am just covered in right now, you don't want to wash it a lot. I actually looked up how you can not get some of the microplastics, even if you are wearing it and sitting in it, and by washing something repeatedly it does release more of it, and so you're going to probably be breathing it or it could be getting into your skin and stuff like that.
Speaker 1:So I know it's kind of gross to say don't wash your clothes, but-.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, it's something you don't really think about. And then now you you're like oh yeah, this is, I mean, polyester plastic, it's all like that synthetic stuff. Yeah, that gets into your body.
Speaker 1:So I guess just trying to minimize it yes you know, don't eat plastic well, we are eating plastic, so yeah because it's in all the like packaging and stuff.
Speaker 3:So I wonder totally.
Speaker 2:But I'm saying like don't, like, don't, it's already in there. Like don't eat the bottle, like if you're like, well, screw it, it's, I'm already getting plastic. There's a big difference between microplastics and macroplastics.
Speaker 1:So the macroplastic is just the whole bottle.
Speaker 2:Yeah the whole, the whole thing. Yeah, cap, even the cap, don't do that. That's all I'm saying. Yeah, I'm not a doctor, but I don't do that he's not a doctor.
Speaker 1:I just want to make sure everybody and I'm also not- a doctor.
Speaker 2:I didn't go to medical school for seven years.
Speaker 3:I wonder how many like how much it's really affecting us, like how many years off our life it's taking, if years or whatever, like I don't know what the average life expectancy is, but like what if we would all live to be like 120 if we weren't?
Speaker 2:and healthy.
Speaker 3:Yeah, if we weren't drinking and eating out of plastic. I don't know a lot.
Speaker 1:A lot of people are getting cancer at a much younger age now you may notice um dean. Was it dean that brought up the fact that, like the older people are not, they're still living?
Speaker 2:because they didn't eat all the shit food to begin with, yeah to begin with, like all, like the super processed stuff, or you know, all the plastics, uh, but we're all phallic babies yeah, we're all phallic babies, totally, we're just trying to get by. Um, yeah, it's interesting, but you just have to kind of pick your battles again don't eat, don't eat plastic yeah, that's it.
Speaker 1:That's all I'm going to say when you, when you get food that's wrapped in plastic, if it's, especially if it's got fat in it, it will leach the plastic into the fat, like in europe they put it in paper. You know like you go to the butcher, they put everything in paper. That's what butcher paper right here.
Speaker 1:They put it, they wrap in plastic and then they put the paper around it, or they put it in plastic and they throw it on the shelf, and that is so bad is it cuz it like preserves better in plastic?
Speaker 3:is that why?
Speaker 2:yeah, probably gets less air in there, so it lasts longer, mmm you know, whatever chemicals they put in there to keep it looking yeah, also last longer, there's all and I didn't think about this, but like when I was in the, the martinizing business and dry cleaning, I uh well I, I knew the guy let's mull this over.
Speaker 2:I know, yeah, martin muller. Yeah, I know the guy personally. His name was martin eising. But, um, so when I was in there, so uh, when I was working like dry cleaning, the clothes would come out. You press the clothes, they're all hot, and then what do you do? They cover them in plastic, that's right, they cover them in plastic and it's like sometimes they would almost kind of like steam up it was just hot, you know, because they're using steam to press them and they would just sit there for you know, sometimes years.
Speaker 1:People don't pick them up, but it's usually there for weeks, months, whatever, and then you don't even think about it and it's just you keep it, you know the chemical that they use to dry clean is really bad for you, totally.
Speaker 2:I couldn't find my words there because I just didn't have them. But yeah, it's amazing, we just use plastic, we don't even think about it, and it's amazing how it gets into everything, because that's just a cheaper option.
Speaker 1:I have a feeling that this is going to be a wave of like, of people waking up to all this stuff and just kind of like revolting, in a sense of just like not buying that stuff. I'm hoping that, since the, the awareness seems to be a lot more now but like anybody that you talk to.
Speaker 1:Just in general, like before, like 10 years ago, if I said something about like BPA you know, two people out in the room might've been like oh yeah, I heard about that. Now it's like everybody's sort of aware of, like microplastics and all this other stuff, um, so I'm hoping that that will increase the uh more natural yeah, avenues, but then that.
Speaker 2:But then the natural stuff also costs more, and like yeah and this brings it back around to, uh, your story, your pilot making rent because of the fact that, like, when you're doing something like that, seriously, when you're doing something like that, you're living, and I'm, you know, similar situations like that where you can't afford to buy all the super high-end stuff because that's the stuff that has you know it's all clean, so you just use whatever's available to you like you know, I used to use like the shittiest hair, hair stuff and whatever else goes right into your system um
Speaker 1:yeah, so most of the people who have the less, the least amount of money are the people who are going to suffer the most from this right.
Speaker 2:So, yeah, it's like mcdonald's, like the dollar menu, when it used to be a thing. It's just that's just the easiest thing to eat, so people load up on that and then you know they have diabetes later.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I mean there are more mcdonald's and like not to get too serious, but like in some, some of the neighborhoods that have less money, they put more of that in there.
Speaker 1:Totally, it's just easy access. So they found it when they tested some of the kids that they had. In some of these tests they found it more in Hispanic, asian and Pacific Islanders, um, and then with just body lotion it was associated with the kinds of phthalates um in uh personal care ingredients among white children, but also more among black and hispanic, I don't know why.
Speaker 2:No, it said here in personal care, among white but not among black, and his no but not.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay will you cut that out? Wait, hold on, because it said oh, overall, black children had the highest level of phthalates in their urine okay so maybe we cut that part out. But overall I'm gonna say it again overall, black children had the highest level of phthalates in their urine. So you know, beauty target, beauty products targeted at communities of color, basically have the highest level of these chemicals. And now, like I said, with tiktok and everything, kids are targeted to buy the skincare that's, you know, the garbage that's out there.
Speaker 1:So right interesting yeah, I wonder if it's like yeah, like more than a specific product.
Speaker 3:Yeah, like then like one's worse than the other. Yeah, sounds well, that's what it sounds like. What?
Speaker 1:do you mean that's what you're saying um?
Speaker 3:like, like, if a products are very popular on tiktok, like that all the kids are buying, then like, maybe that specific product is worse than say right, because they're like a huge corporation. Yeah, right, yeah someone's pumping money behind it yeah, yeah totally hmm do you?
Speaker 1:are you on the tiktoks?
Speaker 3:I just actually started a tiktok to post, to post uh clips from the pilot. Actually, um, because before I I'm not that young and I'm just like, what are the kids doing now? Like like yeah and but yeah, I mean I'm growing it, we'll see you look like a kid.
Speaker 1:I always forget really yeah, you think if you're listening and not watching.
Speaker 3:Renee has such a baby face that's great, because I haven't even taken care of my skin, bringing it back around I literally only relatively recently I I got in like to to better skincare products because I you have a girlfriend?
Speaker 1:yeah, because that. Yeah, no 100. Every comedian that comes in there says that exact same thing, yeah, I only started taking care of myself because I have a girlfriend well, I never.
Speaker 3:Well, I actually have been using lotion for a while because my skin would get really dry after washing and I just didn't like the way it felt on my face. I just felt really dry. But I would just get like the cheapest lotion, like whatever, like it, probably a crap inside of it or whatever a ton of phthalates, whatever, but like the most basic one. And then, but now I have like nicer lotions and an actual like face wash.
Speaker 1:Like I was just using.
Speaker 3:I was just using soap, oh my god, oh my god I've used soap on my face, in my hair I almost just passed out.
Speaker 1:Some of that stuff makes your skin feel so disgusting. It's just like it leaves this weird film yeah, it's like when you use.
Speaker 2:I used to use bar soap as a shampoo oh why?
Speaker 3:is my hand getting stuck in my?
Speaker 2:hair I was using like a you use. I used to use bar soap as shampoo. Oh, why is my hand getting stuck in my hair?
Speaker 3:I was using like a face. Well, I could like a neutrogena face wash for a while, but then like it like ran out and then I was just like, oh, I have like a body wash, I'll just use that on my face. And then I'm like, oh, I have so much of this left, I don't need to buy a new face and then. So I was just using that for like a long time, Like, oh it's you're just using whatever sodium lauryl sulfate just all over your face.
Speaker 1:It's just like a really harsh detergent that they put in all of the big time soaps and laundry detergents and everything and that's what you're using on your face.
Speaker 3:But now you and now yeah, now I use an actual face wash and I go get. I use organic soap because I. Because I do like the bar soap better than the liquid. That's just a preference, but I get an organic bar which I'm assuming is okay for you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm sure it's fine.
Speaker 3:And it's natural soap, yeah.
Speaker 1:Your skin feels good after you use it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think so yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm not convinced.
Speaker 2:It's not burning.
Speaker 3:I use the bar on my body and then I use the face wash on the face and I think overall, yeah, I feel better. Not as dry, but I also use lotion.
Speaker 1:Do you wash twice a day?
Speaker 3:My face.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Not with the face wash. No Good, Once a day, yeah.
Speaker 1:I was going to say you don't need to overwash, especially because you're not wearing makeup.
Speaker 3:Generally speaking, Not that we know of. Only at night, when I'm home alone, I put on Kiss makeup and I just sit alone in my room with Kiss makeup on.
Speaker 2:This is just for me, Sondra's like hey, can I stop by right now?
Speaker 3:I'm like no, no, it's too late.
Speaker 1:I just set it.
Speaker 2:I've got to get some cold cream. Take my makeup off.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I love that no, that's something I I'm speaking to make I that that is something I realize I have absolutely zero knowledge about. And like I went into um, my uh, my niece had a birthday recently and she said she wanted a uh, anything from sephora. And I've literally never stepped foot in that store before and I was like, oh, I'll just get her a gift card. I I stopped as soon as I stepped foot and I was like I am completely lost, I'm I don't even know like where I'm at, what this is, I don't even know. Begin to look like where.
Speaker 1:I'm just like okay, you're not supposed to, I was just.
Speaker 3:I was like this is a whole world.
Speaker 1:I know nothing about knock me out anyway yeah it's not to go off on a tangent, but but oh, it's huge Dude tangent is what you should be going off on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean, there's just so many things like you go in there and you're like I don't know what to to get you know. So it's just, it's overwhelming.
Speaker 1:Well, that's why they have those lady walking around spraying you with stuff. Yeah nose, each nose.
Speaker 2:I have two noses I have four no wait you know yeah humans have one nose, four nostrils. Sorry, um, but yeah and then. Yeah, it's so weird, but when you were saying before about like using whatever's cheapest, right and then like, let's just say, your neighbor's like oh, no hair, I got all this. I have all this baby lotion that I use for my kid that now they don't use and you're like oh that's cool, and then you're just putting more shit into your body, right?
Speaker 2:putting their leftover baby skincare yeah, well, I'm just saying like you'd look at something and you're thinking like it says baby on it again. You think it's safe right, right it's probably worse for you than you know the stuff that's in like the for the adults or whatever.
Speaker 1:Like the super it's wild people, you know, would use it on their hair because they thought it was more but it still probably had sodium lauryl sulfate in it, which is really, look on all of your stuff, especially like um, any any detergent like uh, hand soaps, um, even some of the like the higher end hand soaps will have sodium lauryl. It's like a foaming agent sodium lauryl sulfate, and then there's sodium lauryl sulfate as well, and that's not good either. Write this down.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, I will write it down for you sodium lauryl sulfate as well, and that's not good either.
Speaker 2:Write this down, okay, yeah, I will write it down for you sodium lauryl sulfate yeah, sls, you can remember that right, sls, yeah remember when people say they would say like hey, what would you be living under a rock? And like, yeah, I want to live there now I feel like under a rock I wouldn't get so much plastic. You look great. Yeah, you've been living under a rock. You look fantastic compliment.
Speaker 1:It's a compliment. What's the year? It's natural, my God, I look 25. I've been living under a boulder.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I've been living under a rock. You've been living in Boulder. No, I've been living under a boulder. Yeah, yeah, I've been living under Colorado.
Speaker 1:Yeah, under Colorado, yeah, under Colorado. From the article that I had read and heard from All Things Considered, which was really I don't know. I'm glad that people are finally starting to put this together and not expose our kids just because they're kids and they don't know what they're getting. And so you asked me, before there's a few different, I'll just go really quickly through the websites not websites, I'm sorry the apps that you can put on your phone. There's one called Think Dirty and that you scan the barcode and then you can learn about the potentially toxic ingredients in the skincare that they have.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's cool.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I thought that's cool. There's one called Yucca, or Yucca Again. You scan the barcode of food products Y-U-K-A, yeah, y-u-k-a, and I'll list all of these in the description.
Speaker 2:In the credits. In the credits.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:Really fast.
Speaker 1:So you can use that for food products or cosmetics. Detox Me is another one. It offers information about the ingredients that you want to avoid and then it gives you alternatives which I think are really cool.
Speaker 3:so you know, you're not just being like, oh, I can't use this I have a feeling it's going to be like everything like, like, don't buy anything. Yeah, leave the store there's like one product in one store that'll be very hard to get.
Speaker 1:I feel like it's.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's in the desert somewhere and somebody's selling it yeah, do they have an app called what Am I Smelling Right Now and will it kill me over time?
Speaker 1:It's like Shazam for scents.
Speaker 2:Yeah, oh, hell, yeah, that'd be great, yeah, genius.
Speaker 1:So what else? So, yeah, you can use that for that. And then CodeCheck is another one, not coat check, but code check, and it helps you make more informed shopping decisions by checking to see if the product contains the ingredients or if it's sustainably produced, which is another thing that I think is very important to be sustainably produced, so you're not just like putting all this shit into the you know landfills and just you know using all this whatever so well said, nikki, using all the words in that one that's pretty much.
Speaker 1:Oh, skin safe is another one helps you to screen skincare products for chemicals you want to avoid and you can receive alerts, which I thought was really cool. Um, when the products are added to your, are updated to your safe list, then you can receive alert I guess alerts to buy them. Oh, there's another one, clear yeah, and this is the last one, one word yeah, clear.
Speaker 1:Yeah, c l e r uh, c l e a r. Yeah y a um. It does the same thing and it and it gives you um the alternatives to suggest, like what you could use instead of using whatever toxic shit you've right into your cart. So that's the end of that, my spiel that's cool, yeah, that's crazy.
Speaker 2:I didn't. I had no idea that all that stuff was still being put into. I mean, I don't know why I didn't think it, you know. But yeah, you just see a label and you assume it is something, but it's not really, baby safe I mean, the ingredients are like this long on everything yeah, why? Why do they have to put so many things into that?
Speaker 1:I don't even think it would be cheaper to put less ingredients, but it's cheaper to make it more ingredients.
Speaker 2:Right, I was going to say it's got to be all about money for sure, so there must be like one ingredient that is the most costly, and then other things are added to it as filler, to just extract that you know.
Speaker 1:Man, a lot of them are for texture.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you know, like makes one feel, you know like, right here one feel goopy, or whatever it is. Remember when they used to only cut cocaine once now babies are getting like yeah, I know, and now babies are just getting. You know everything in there. They're just like, almost like they're getting like the sweeps and then I put that in the lotion for the kid they just sweep the cocaine, or no? Just whatever the junk is just like yeah, get over here. Oh my god, yeah it's just, it's pretty gross yeah, yeah I don't really lotion myself.
Speaker 2:Uh, I have somebody else do it no, I don't really lotion myself.
Speaker 1:Uh, that often coconut oil right, I don't need more.
Speaker 2:I use the stuff you get, because you get, you know, good stuff what do I get? The kindry, oh the kindry.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's really good skincare um, my friend robin um mcdonald. She has a line called Kindry and she makes all natural, cruelty-free, sustainable products and they're really good. Some great oils, some stuff with cactus oil that really helps to seal in the moisture of your skin, because when you use a lot of moisturizer sometimes it almost sucks the moisture out. If it's like a heavy cream sucks the moisture out, you know, if it's like a heavy cream, I mean, can you imagine like if you're putting something thick on there and then it's like the moisture is coming out into the, into the layer of thickness?
Speaker 1:oh so heavy creams are not necessarily good for everybody's skin mostly not, I would say. You want something like a serum? Is great too but, you know, it sounds like you're using something kind of on the thinner side I'm using, using I don't know what is it.
Speaker 3:It's either Cetaphil or CeraVe, like a cream lotion. I've never used it before. I think it's okay. I don't know.
Speaker 2:Look, my face is still here. Your skin looks good. Oh, thanks, thanks.
Speaker 3:And the wash I'm using is like it was expensive and I was'm not actually the the the lotion I was using was really soon, but the the, the face wash, is um epions oh, right, yeah is that that good? I?
Speaker 1:think it's.
Speaker 3:I think it's one of the more natural ones, maybe okay, good yeah, I think so, yeah, I was just I was told to get it, so I did it. I don't know we'll research that.
Speaker 1:If you guys see that it's not, let us know in the comments. Actually, just confirm in the comments.
Speaker 2:Just write in the comments. Why is it word confirm?
Speaker 1:yeah, just wait till I confirm. Yeah, yeah, well, this was illuminating.
Speaker 3:I uh sorry, no, yeah, I learned a lot about phthalates and yeah, yeah, and it's unfortunate that it's uh, so many kids are getting affected people like why don't you have kids?
Speaker 2:and it's like I don't want to bring kids in a screwed up world where the lotions are tainted, getting into you know, it's just like, it's sad, it's just yeah that's the reason why you don't want to have kids.
Speaker 1:Yeah, not the responsibility part, or not at all it's all about the skincare products but it's, it's interesting to do.
Speaker 2:You know, when you said that I was thinking about like, like, as an actor, you put stuff on your face. You know, you put all that stuff on your face, you just don't. You just take whatever's on there and you just put it on, you know right, I mean, meanwhile, while we're shooting renee's pilot, we could all be just dying. Our face could be eaten, you know, just turning into microplastics did you have makeup on your face during the pilot? No, so that's even more disheartening.
Speaker 1:I hope he had good lighting.
Speaker 3:I couldn't afford a Megabars no way, everybody looked good.
Speaker 2:Everybody came camera ready. All I can say for me I came camera ready and everybody looked good in it. Well, good. So no skin was harmed with the production.
Speaker 1:I want to see that in the credits, by the way.
Speaker 3:Yeah, no skin was harmed. Yeah, no skin was harmed in this.
Speaker 1:What's the name of your pilot again?
Speaker 3:Making Rent.
Speaker 1:Making Rent and it's on YouTube. Okay, I love that.
Speaker 3:And I post clips on my social media.
Speaker 1:What is your social media In my new TikTok? What's your TikTok? I'm sorry to interrupt you.
Speaker 3:What tiktok name I want to follow you. Uh, risne three r-i-z-z-n-e three. Okay, my instagram is renee dot lancaster. That's r-e-n-e dot lancaster.
Speaker 1:Like the city, uh yeah, you got a youtube youtube is just my name, I think just renee lancaster. It's renee with one e at the end one e-r-e-n-e that's a male version yeah it is right yeah oh, I've known you long enough.
Speaker 2:I don't, I don't see gender, thank you, that's a shame.
Speaker 1:That's a shame, yeah um, well, you know, I want to say thank you for being here and I know it was going to kind of thank you for having a little bit of a bummer topic, like it wasn't like super fun, like I mean I'm like, yeah, seriously, I'm I learned a lot.
Speaker 3:I'm like, yeah, seriously, I'm like now and now I'm interested in the apps like to like scan, see what I'm getting, that's cool, like I want to do that yeah I only learned about that today when I was prepping for this thing is about these apps.
Speaker 1:So you know, because you know I wait till 15 minutes before we start the podcast and I start, no, but I actually did just find about the apps today, so so I'm going to start using those as well. I kind of keep it simple, though I try almost to use nothing on my face if possible, just just as little as I don't know.
Speaker 2:Don't even get me started on tap water, I don't.
Speaker 1:I won't.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Do you have anything else you'd like to say, Sandra?
Speaker 2:No, I think that was very informative and it just makes me want to check. I check labels consistently with stuff just because it's. I mean especially stuff that you know you're going to smell. It's going to be, you know, like. I had to get this stuff to get rid of rats. It just makes them so they don't want to be around. I don't want to kill them, they just don't want to be around.
Speaker 2:Yeah the rats don't want to be around this shit, and they leave and um, and it has well some of that had that sodium, sodium lauryl sulfate oh yeah right and uh, but luckily this is like mainly on outside right and there's air to get through it. But I pay attention all that stuff now because you know it's going to be in the air, you know it's aerated it's getting in the dirt.
Speaker 1:It's getting in the soil. All of this stuff is going into the toilet. It's being flushed. It's getting in the soil. It's getting in the dirt. All of this stuff is going into the toilet. It's being flushed, it's going in the water supply. It's like it's all. It's just being. We're being soaked in it.
Speaker 2:So it's like it's almost hard to avoid.
Speaker 1:It's almost impossible to avoid.
Speaker 2:You can't eat oleanders anymore, because if the oleanders, well, they're poisonous to begin with.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's what I thought laurel sulfates.
Speaker 2:I love that you did not commit to that.
Speaker 1:No all right. Well, thanks for being here thank you for having me.
Speaker 3:This was so much fun.
Speaker 1:You want to say anything?
Speaker 3:yeah uh, check out my pilot uh thank you for having me, sandro. You were great in the pilot. You're fantastic, renee. Thank you.
Speaker 2:Fantastic director and, yeah, man, check it out Making Rant on YouTube. It's hilarious dude. It's really well. Everyone I talk to at the Comedy Store and you know people at the Comedy Store when they're positive, it's for real and everyone is like dude everyone was great. The writing was so good.
Speaker 1:So seriously, the writing was so good, so seriously, the writing is like the first thing people talk about. So thank you, I dig it, man awesome. Yeah, the first thing he came home and said how, how great it was and how much
Speaker 2:fun. He had awesome.
Speaker 1:Thank you, she didn't even ask me and it still won't and I yeah yeah, um, all right, so well, thank you so much. Thank you and uh, you guys will see you next week. This will be up at wednesday at 3 am and uh nice ciao for now.
Speaker 2:Sorry, I cut you off. Bye.