Sex, Drugs and Skincare

OVERNIGHT BEAUTY HACKS/ GUEST COMEDIAN CAITLIN ALYN

Nicky Davis, Sandro Iocolano, Caitlin Alyn Season 1 Episode 87

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On this episode with guest comedian, Caitlin Alyn, we spill the beans on our skincare secrets, like silicone scar sheets and kinesio tape and some overnight treatments you might not have ever thought of.

We embark on a hilarious exploration of late-night beauty rituals, touching on the enigmatic concept of "little death" and its ties to sleep and orgasms. Caitlin and I chuckle over storming the Capitol with trees, muse over The Flintstones' expressions, and dive into the quirks of classic films like The Princess Bride. Whether debating the practicality of bras as "tit prisons" or discussing castor oil's magical properties for hair growth and digestive aid, our banter is as enlightening as it is entertaining.

Finally, we celebrate the wonders of skincare innovations, from the soothing comfort of mouth taping to the elasticity-boosting magic of silicone patches. Listen as we unravel the art behind Marilyn Monroe's iconic beauty tricks, and share insights into modern-day contouring and makeup techniques. Get ready for a whirlwind of laughter and beauty wisdom, with a sprinkle of holiday cheer, as we connect with fellow skincare enthusiasts on social media platforms. Join our merry escapade for a unique blend of humor and practical beauty advice.

Speaker 1:

You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex, drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to sex, drugs and skincare. I'm Nikki Davis Jr, licensed comedian, stand-up esthetician.

Speaker 2:

Nice, that was good.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, thank you you guys.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I like that Guys that marks the eighth time she's got it all correct Right All the way down. Yeah nice, you've been counting no, oh, but I figured like one of those things where it's like you're the hundredth customer and like balloons come down or whatever. But imagine that happened. But then they were like you get executed. You know, if you watch the new Squid Game no, and I won't, me either it's too violent. You wanted to watch it. Actually, I wanted to watch it.

Speaker 1:

I watched the first one and I got confused by it. How did you get?

Speaker 2:

confused. People are dead and Well, they're dead. But I'm like all right, well, I don't know. Now I look at stuff, I see that and I'm like, oh, cool art department, Like oh wow, you guys really, oh my God.

Speaker 1:

But now you want to see it though? Huh, but you're saying you wanted to see it.

Speaker 2:

I wanted to see it in a sense of like you know, like there's no story to it, it's just you watch different ways of like the technology. How far you know magicians have come, really like like stage magicians, where they can actually take something, sculpt it from latex and make it look like someone's head flying off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I think it's fascinating. I flying off.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, I think it's fascinating. I feel like that gets into your brain. It seeps into your brain after a while of seeing that all the time. It just normalizes it.

Speaker 2:

Yeah and then there's a part of me that's like, hey, how accurate is this? And not that I want to see someone's head blow up, right, but you're like I wonder, you know, yeah, so I'm just, I don't know I'm sure you can find it on the internet if you looked hard enough oh, you definitely can or not at it would just show up on the internet.

Speaker 1:

Now that you've spoken it, AI is going to have it as your screensaver.

Speaker 2:

It knows.

Speaker 1:

It knows.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ai.

Speaker 1:

Your hair looks cute. Oh, thank you. Yeah, sandro, if you're listening, not washing. You washed it today. No, he's got it. I like to smoosh it up on the forehead a little bit.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, cause, so I could get a good hairline. Why not show it off? I don't know.

Speaker 2:

Why not? I don't know yeah. These are the things. I don't think about these things. I think about paying rent, I think about car insurance and I think about where we're going to go in this country after this ridiculous past week that we've had.

Speaker 1:

I think I need more weed for that conversation. This past week I uh, I had had a stomach ache this past week you had a stomach ache once for the whole.

Speaker 2:

I don't know if the whole country can get over it. You don't feel like that. When you have something wrong with you, it's like everybody feels it no no, no, I do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and you can't imagine that nobody feels like it. Yeah, anybody else doesn't feel like you right, yeah yeah, I get it I don't know, sometimes the improvs are good yeah.

Speaker 2:

Anyways, thank you for the hairline.

Speaker 1:

You're very welcome.

Speaker 2:

Well, I don't want to. Sometimes people do improv and they want it to go funny. I don't Sometimes, sometimes things just aren't funny in life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's true, and you still pay for the ticket. Yeah, it's very realist improv person.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I like it.

Speaker 1:

Um, by the way, if you're wondering what's on my face, this is going to be, uh, addressed with the topic that we're going to do today. Uh, and I'm going to have to take part of this off, but I have some, um, I have some, the uh silicone scar sheets up here here. Um, where else do I have them? Do you see?

Speaker 2:

Oh, around my eyes a little bit.

Speaker 1:

And then I have some tape along my jaw, some kinesio tape, because we're going to talk about overnight beauty treatments.

Speaker 2:

Right.

Speaker 1:

Some of them work, some of them don't work. I just wanted to talk about all of them.

Speaker 2:

When you say overnight, you're referring to things that you wear, assuming the person goes to sleep.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right, if you were up partying and wearing that and it was still overnight, would you get any benefit?

Speaker 1:

If you're up doing a bunch of coke. You mean, like if you're wearing kinesio tape. Oh, okay, yeah.

Speaker 2:

You have to be sleeping, obviously.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's better to be sleeping because your skin is regenerating.

Speaker 2:

I just wanted to set it up properly, because a lot of people out there are going to be like.

Speaker 1:

They never said if I should be sleeping or not at night sometimes I don't know if I should say the funny thing or the improv thing, because the improv thing is like a 50 50 chance that it's going to be funny. And if I say that, why is there? He's looking, you had the logic. Oh so yeah. So like, if I say the funny thing and it bombs, it goes nowhere.

Speaker 2:

Right, right right.

Speaker 1:

And there's a good chance it might bomb. Yeah, but if I say the, if I'm talking about the other you know thing that we were talking about the actual the real thing, then I seem like a bummer, like a drag.

Speaker 2:

Right, but it might be, but it might work. That's true, the improv on that part. Is that what you're talking about?

Speaker 1:

It could. Yeah, there's a shot.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, ironically, I think, a lot of people well, a lot of people that want to hurt themselves. That's all improv. Yeah, they suddenly just decide. Yeah, they suddenly just decide and they're just like, yes, and they go with it.

Speaker 1:

That's the wrong time to do that.

Speaker 2:

Suicide yes and punchline yeah I think so it's better to have somebody go and seen and then you're embarrassed, as opposed to, like you know, you're dead wow, yeah, it's not a death happening on your corner of the couch today well, I'm getting it out of the way I'm taking because these are overnight beauty secrets and what people in as a lot of cultures they refer to sleep as the little death, because that's an orgasm, by the way is it really?

Speaker 2:

yes, oh, okay, thank you. Oh that, gus, you're allowed to laugh into the mic and laugh hard at him, because that's a stupid, stupid thing.

Speaker 1:

you said Just kidding.

Speaker 2:

So, oh, because when you die, apparently like you feel, like it's like an ecstasy feeling.

Speaker 1:

Yes, that's exactly why they named it that. I think that's what it is. It's like a little death that you had because you're like like that, like you leave your thank you. That's how I look.

Speaker 2:

But how do you know? That's how death feels.

Speaker 1:

It's a phrase, it's a you know, okay.

Speaker 2:

So if you have a wet dream while you're overnight, that's a little sleep, that's a little death. Right, it's a little wet death, that's a okay, that's a okay Little death, little wet death that's a okay, that's a look. Okay, little death is orgasm a little death.

Speaker 1:

A little lal that's sleeping at night.

Speaker 2:

No, that's a nap okay, yeah, that's a nap. Yeah, it's something you got to give me. It's something, it's something fine. Just tell me, it's something fine, it's something okay, so I'm very interested to know um what you can do overnight to change my face.

Speaker 1:

How's my? Does it look like I'm not smiling because I feel like I'm not?

Speaker 2:

No, it looks like you know it just.

Speaker 1:

I feel like I got to take these off it looks like you tried to skin graft yourself. Okay, it looks like you took it, I'll wait till we bring our guest on, and then we'll do it. Yeah, yeah, do a reveal of your mouth looks like all right, yeah. Yeah, I'm always talking out of the other side of it, right? You know, because you're talking outside of your mouth, oh yeah that's right, you're talking outside of your mouth, that's what?

Speaker 2:

that's why I never trust anybody in the flintstones, because they don't talk out of the side of their mouth.

Speaker 1:

It's so funny. That's true, actually. Well, yeah they didn't have, didn't have teeth back then they were made out of dinosaurs, okay, um so yeah, so, uh, let's bring our guest out okay I'm sorry. Did you have anything else you wanted to say?

Speaker 2:

no, I think I've. I think I covered everything that I didn't intend on saying. Okay, perfect, so I think I'm good. Yeah, our guest has been here before she's a tree timer now. Yeah, she's a tree timer.

Speaker 1:

Wow, she's arborist, yeah she's cheating on another tree oh, my gosh, my gosh, she's a tree timer. She's a two-timing tree trimmer.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, yeah, that's a lot of trunks.

Speaker 1:

I voted for trunk. You voted for trunk. Yeah, you son of a gun.

Speaker 2:

All right, you bested me.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, Can we storm the Capitol? Oh, I thought you were going to say the castle, yeah, good luck. They should change that on the Princess Bride Good luck storming the capital you know, like instead of the castle. Do you remember that scene?

Speaker 2:

I do Okay. Good From the Princess Bride.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yep, okay. She's so funny, she's so well-educated in the topics that we bring up, because I think of all of my guests and all of even my own clients. I think this client, this person, uh, she studies up on stuff way more than I do, and she's probably introduced me to a lot of the stuff that I think about and use or don't use, um, and so that's one of the reasons why I wanted to have her back, aside from her just being fucking ridiculously funny and uh and super hot, frankly. So I think it's time to bring her out frankly, frankly, bring it frankly. Everybody. Is he here? Yeah, I'm sorry, all right. So, uh, coming to the couch, we're gonna switch you, so don't don't get too excited until you come over here.

Speaker 2:

caitlin allen yay me don't get too excited.

Speaker 1:

That's my favorite, yeah great host I don't want you to lose your. You know, I want you to hang on to that. Yeah, I don't want you to lose your not excited, oh yeah.

Speaker 2:

Thanks, it's the kind of compliment I want. It's the kind of table you don't want to do this to. Hey, don't lean on the wing.

Speaker 3:

Do I have my hair in a bonnet, since you look crazy now too.

Speaker 1:

Do you want to?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, when people come to my apartment now, I want them to be like that's a nice end cable, it never ends around here.

Speaker 1:

What is this quartz? Oh my God, good Lord, oh my God, this is so good Woo.

Speaker 3:

Woo Wonderful. I should have put my robe and everything.

Speaker 1:

It's okay, I'm not going to say it.

Speaker 3:

Cole.

Speaker 1:

Davis yeah, yeah, best name tag. Yeah, I don't want to like so I can see more of your face. There we go. I think that should be good.

Speaker 3:

I mean when you take your yeah, put your head up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, when you take yours off, you'll take your.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, take the brakes on that end table. Does anybody want before I you good.

Speaker 1:

No, I think I'm good. I'm going to do it on the way home, on the ride home.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to do it for the rest of the night, yeah yeah, exactly, hey, get in there.

Speaker 2:

Let me put my airplane on phone mode. Oh yeah, pardon.

Speaker 1:

Are you comfortable?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you have a beverage. I'm ready for bed. Yeah, I know.

Speaker 1:

Thanks, buddy.

Speaker 3:

Make sure you get my greasy glasses.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Are they greasy?

Speaker 3:

If they're not greasy, then they're scratched. I've had these things for years and I just refuse to get new pairs. I love them.

Speaker 1:

Mine lasts, the little thing that goes on the side. So it's just metal to skin now, oh, metal to skin. I've got to glue another one of these little things on Well.

Speaker 3:

Thankfully you have silicone protecting you. Oh yeah, I should put that there. That's a good idea.

Speaker 1:

Just always have a tiny little piece of silicone.

Speaker 3:

You never know Hopefully the technology will evolve and we won't even be able to see that we're wearing. We're going to be wearing like fake skin all day.

Speaker 2:

That's true. That's a really good point. They do it for cars. You can get like a wrap for your car.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you can get a wrap for your body.

Speaker 2:

Wait, say that on camera there, we'll get there. It's funny.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I just blurted out shut up, save it, okay, yeah, okay. Caitlin allen, hooray big reveal. It looks so fantastic thank you so much.

Speaker 3:

I thought you look so nice, so I would. I would try to look as nice as you and this I wear.

Speaker 1:

I do wear these to bed, well so no, uh, first of all I'm gonna take mine off just this.

Speaker 3:

You're taking yours, only these. Yeah, okay, yeah, okay, just so you guys know I do wear this to bed if you're listening and not watching.

Speaker 1:

Uh, caitlin is wearing a really cool black satin, uh or silk, sorry.

Speaker 3:

So this one's cheap, okay, yeah if you can afford silk, you go girl yeah, exactly, all right, I'm taking off. I feel like I'm taking off my wig like there's a bald head underneath, but ta-da Caitlin has gorgeous hair here.

Speaker 1:

How does my mouth look? Does it look like it's got any like anything left?

Speaker 3:

It definitely looks a little red, just a little, which is good. You want blood flow to the area. I also brought my night guard.

Speaker 1:

Yes, we both bought our. Maybe at some point we'll both put our uh, our retainers in our night guards. So yours is a retainer, mine is a retainer yeah, mine's from just constantly just gripping onto life. You know so tough, so tight well, even when I'm asleep, yeah, even when I'm asleep.

Speaker 3:

I'm just never like, oh my god, do you wear it all the time now. Um, when I not all that, like when I sleep, like oh, oh my God, do you wear it all the time now, not all the time, like when I sleep. Sometimes some nights I just pass out and I forget. But I thought I was going to hate it and I actually love it. I love sleeping in it. Good, I look ridiculous. Who cares? I don't care.

Speaker 1:

You're already wearing a bonnet.

Speaker 3:

I look ridiculous. I look ridiculous. I also, you know we'll probably talk about this, but I do wear the silicone patches too for my chest.

Speaker 1:

So let's see what's first on our list.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's a whole look, yeah, but I'm so excited to see these because I already got a little glimpse. Yeah, and I'm into most of these.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, this is exciting. Some of them work better than others. Some of them are just like supernatural, not supernatural like magic.

Speaker 3:

I wish they were.

Speaker 1:

Transcendent, yeah, but, and then yeah. So I just made a list of like 10. And if you think of any more, for sure Chime in both of you.

Speaker 3:

This is all beauty, you know, skin, hair, whatever. Okay, cute yeah. Teeth skin hair jaw anything, all that stuff oh yeah. We got the we have to worry about. There's so many things to think about, jesus christ, like how do you, how do we sleep? I don't know. I need an assistant just for body management. Someone give me a schedule just so I can keep on. Okay, yeah, the involuntary stuff.

Speaker 2:

I, I got that down. Pat the involuntary body, the voluntary, like farting. What do you?

Speaker 3:

mean by involuntary well, like breathing.

Speaker 2:

I don't think I'm sure that if I think about breathing I'd be dead. I mean, it's just, you know, like cause there's so many things to do, Soon there'll be an app for that.

Speaker 3:

So which one?

Speaker 1:

For the breathing yeah, it's just going to be like breathe, breathe yeah.

Speaker 3:

I got it. They might as well call this the adhd skincare show sometimes it gets that way.

Speaker 1:

But you know, what's really cool is that we did start topping talking topicing I was gonna say topping talking about the topic pretty soon into the uh so this is good, this is good for you, this is great.

Speaker 3:

We're doing great episode three.

Speaker 1:

We probably talked for not you and I, but you know the guests and us. We probably talked for 45 minutes and then sneak the topic into the end. So great If you go back. Go back like 25 to 30 episodes and then if you want to get really creative as a listener and a watcher, yeah, be a creative listener.

Speaker 3:

Don't just take what you hear or what you see, not an active listener, but a creative one. Fill in the gaps, make it your own.

Speaker 2:

If it's not something you like, do something else with it in your mind Exactly. I think that's fair After all, there's no science to skincare Not at all.

Speaker 3:

It's literally a science it's all improv.

Speaker 1:

It's all improv, that's right.

Speaker 3:

Okay, so the first one I put on there. We may have talked about it. Castor oil for your hair, yes, okay. So now when you put yours in, I do it as a scalp and hair. So really important, I do hair oiling, okay, you don't want to know we're talking about overnight. You don't want to sleep in it. You don't want to sleep in it, not especially if it's on your scalp, because it can the scalp treatments. Know, if you put some on your ends, yes, okay, it'll clog your scalp follicles and stuff and it can cause some issues, so you don't want to like yeah, and I also mix it.

Speaker 3:

It's just like a little sidebar. I. I don't just do straight castor oil, I have like a little concoction of different oils because castor oil is basically, is viscous, is like motor oil.

Speaker 1:

I was just gonna say it's motor oil, it's really, really thick.

Speaker 3:

So if I do, if I am going to do something like an overnight sleep mask, then it's just going to be on the ends of my hair, which need a lot more moisture than like near the scalp, where you get all your natural oils also supernatural oils, your supernatural oils yeah but it also helps to stimulate hair growth, so it wouldn't probably be too bad to put on your eyebrows eyebrows, eyelashes

Speaker 3:

eyelashes in fact a lot of castor oil that you buy online comes with a mascara tube so you can put it in there and then use it to put on your eyelashes and, unlike lash serum, it doesn't give you under eye bags or dark eyes or lymphatic clogging and, if anything, it's very anti-inflammatory. Yeah, I use it for everything, like literally, it's like what's that movie where windex, where it's like he uses windex for everything?

Speaker 1:

my big fat greek wedding, yeah, yeah that's me and castor oil.

Speaker 3:

You can put it in your belly button overnight and it'll help you if you're constipated or really it also helps. You can put it on a castor oil pack and put it on your liver. It'll help detox your liver overnight. That that's amazing.

Speaker 3:

These are all things while you sleep. It's going to help that when I ruptured my Achilles, my foot would be like swollen before I'd go to bed. I would wrap it in castor oil and like a wool pack. When I'd wake up, no swelling, whoa, so like. And I didn't. You know, I didn't have surgery on my Achilles Like I did. Full, that one was supernatural actually, it was. I was that one was supernatural actually healing the Achilles and yeah, and I used castor oil for that while I slept.

Speaker 3:

um, there's, there is oil stains on my sheets that will be there forever and I've just said that's fine with me it's worth it for your Achilles for what it? What it cured and helped, or what helped. I think you came in with your cast one. That was the first time I did the show. I think I'd just gotten out of my boot, that's so yeah, cool yeah.

Speaker 2:

Like day one.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, alex was confirming that. It was a big deal. Yeah, he was like I remember.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, one thing I wanted to mention with castor oil is that it's generally better for thick and coarse hair like yours. If you put that thing on my head, it yeah, I um, excuse me, oh, my god.

Speaker 3:

The important thing is is, when you wash it out is to. I mean, I double shampoo and I use like a exfoliating, clarifying shampoo. So it's got like this is again for more of the scalp treatment. Okay, but still you should double shampoo. If you put castor, any level of castor oil, in your hair, it's just very, very thick and it's hard. My advice is mix it with other oils jojoba, yeah, almond, a carrier oil, some other oils.

Speaker 3:

You can mix it up with other things. Olive oil, whatever, all these things are great for your hair, but the castor oils just mix it in there. Yeah, you know, and then, uh, double shampoo, okay when you do wash it out.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I would be in the shower for a half hour at least trying to get that stuff out of my hair pure castor oils. A lot back in the old days I don't know if you guys remember, like on the three stooges or like, uh, you know any of those old, like timey things they would always give them a big spoon of castor oil.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, and then I mean, it can also clear out your liver right or your pancreas. I mean I, nowadays I don't think they tell you to ingest it so much anymore. And because it's a very it's, I don't know what the what the word is, I'm looking for, but your skin easily absorbs it, your skin's an organ.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, so you don't need to like actually ingest it. You can just apply it to your body and your body will take it in. But that's why I put it in my belly button If you're. If you need to take a poop, that's button if you're. If you need to take a poop, that's amazing, that's a great wow. Also bloating, like I like maybe you have like a bunch of sodium and you're kind of like swollen, you can put in your belly button. You know you don't want to like drown it because again, it's oil and it'll like stain, but it doesn't. You don't need much and some people swear by it. Some people doesn't do much for them, but I mean, it's such an easy.

Speaker 1:

Everyone should have a bottle of castor oil in their house and trying to get the one with the glass container.

Speaker 3:

Glass and hexane free.

Speaker 1:

And hexane free. Yeah, all right, that's good advice. All right, all right, so let's see.

Speaker 3:

I'm dropping knowledge. Dude, listen to you. All right, I fuck with castor oil and you can mix it with your nighttime skincare products. Care products oh yeah, you can mix it in with your moisturizer, it's definitely going to be hydrating.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah, I mean start small.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, to see how your skin I mean. But again, if you have any kind of inflammation in your skin, it should help with that.

Speaker 1:

If you leave it on too long, though, you will get pimples on your face. It'll block your pores.

Speaker 3:

That's why you just use a little bit straight castor oil you're just asking for you're just asking for it.

Speaker 1:

I don't know she was asking for it. What was she wearing?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I know okay.

Speaker 1:

So, and if you have fine hair, if you leave it in for 30 minutes and then wash it out, it's better than leaving it in overnight, where it will literally soak through my entire um hair like it as if it weren't ever there.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, what if we put it on the cats?

Speaker 1:

Cats oh my God, that'd be cat, sir oil.

Speaker 2:

Cat sir oil Boom, that's it.

Speaker 1:

Okay. I put our cat in the bathtub yesterday by the way twice as a torture method.

Speaker 3:

No, he actually was okay with it.

Speaker 1:

Interesting the second time he wasn't as happy, but he had a piece of poop stuck to his butt. But so don't you hate it when that happens, when it happens to me, I don't know what to do?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I don't know either. I'm like someone. I wish someone would bathe me. Sondra takes me by the scarf on my neck and puts me in the bathtub. Yeah, my cat growing up loved the bath Really, like when my, when we'd take baths and like there'd be some like water. Finally, my mom started just putting water in there, so we could just have his little rain boots moment yeah.

Speaker 2:

You got to get rain boots for him. That'd be so cool.

Speaker 1:

That'd be puss in boots. Yeah, sorry to interrupt you. No, no, no, Please oh so then you can cover your hair with a plastic shower cap and wrap your head with a towel. All right, your hair thoroughly. Yeah, uh, you might need to shampoo multiple times frequency. Oh, so, for the best, you want to do it. Uh, what I was seeing is every six to eight weeks would be a good rule of thumb. Sure you don't want to do that every day?

Speaker 3:

yeah, oh, definitely not every day. I do the scalp treatment. Uh, probably once a week you do, yeah, once a week, but again, it's not pure castor oil. Yeah, and also, um, something that I was like struggling with was drying it, like my hair was like too dry and I wasn't getting enough oil in my hair. Um, scalp oiling made a huge, because I shampoo my hair a lot, I work out a lot, so I end up, if you over shampoo, you really strip a lot of those natural oils. So scalp oiling was something that for me, is like worked out really well and like that's part my hair's been like shooting out of my head since I've been doing?

Speaker 1:

what is scalp oiling?

Speaker 3:

just put, just like what you said yeah, same thing, um, and then I also add some you know rosemary oil, because that's really that's a natural minoxidil, is it? It's nature's rogaine. Uh, clove oil as well, is also like antibacterial, antifungal, so I put a couple and it smells really nice. Yeah, um, so I mean, I make my own little concoction. Pumpkin seed oil grows your hair like crazy and then is that just for, like the winter time.

Speaker 2:

I do it year round. Oh wow, that's great.

Speaker 3:

I've just been seeing the like the results from it and I just don't. I mean I just I'm like I got your joke yeah, oh wait, I went over my head.

Speaker 1:

Seasonal, like he goes. Yeah, because it's only in the winter.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that was funny.

Speaker 1:

I know I was like oh because it's dry outside.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I was just, I was in like education mode. No, you have to be here but also in making that joke that did very well. I just learned that pumpkin seed. I never thought that pumpkin seed was actually used for anything other than like pumpkin seeds or, like you know, like just eating them is great for your hair too.

Speaker 3:

So eat it. Yeah, in fact there's pumpkin seed oil supplements like in pill form. So I mean that is definitely something that's recommended for hair growth often. And then peppermint too, because because that, that mint stimulates the blood, so you know um. This is all you know the little concoction. I've been like mixing out my little like I'm a little apothecary in my little bathroom.

Speaker 1:

I want to spend the night at your house.

Speaker 2:

I know I love beautiful by the end of the week girls night yeah um as alchemists. Well, we're all witches all right.

Speaker 1:

So let's see, uh, before you. Oh, sometimes I say that you can, um, you can, put a little bit of moisturizer before you put the castor oil on. It'll like seal it so it doesn't like soak you to death yeah, the castor oil.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, nature's, tupperware, nature's.

Speaker 1:

Tupperware, so it's supposed to be good for circulation. Let's see hydration. I think that's pretty. We can cover all that. Overuse could lead to redness, flakiness, dryness and probably some cloggage. Oh, for sure.

Speaker 2:

If you get it on your scalp or your skin.

Speaker 3:

I've definitely come to you. There's been times where I had some little pimple or two or something that was around my hairline and you're like have you been putting oil in your hair? And yeah, I was and I called it. Yeah, you totally called it.

Speaker 1:

Oh cool, I forget Detective Nikki Skin, detective Bum bum. So how do you feel? Do you wear a bra to bed?

Speaker 3:

Oh, I jumped at this earlier. I don't wear a bra, ever I hate them.

Speaker 1:

I think they're tit prisons and I'm anti-bra.

Speaker 3:

I'm sorry, Say that again. They bras. Here's a soundbite for you. Bras are tit prisons and I stand by that. I'd rather sag, I'd rather, I'd rather tuck them into my socks, dude, I just I'm not, I refuse socks dude, I just I'm not. I refuse um quote me on it after the pandemic I pretty much stopped wearing a regular bra period the end. If I do, I have like bralettes right and only when necessary.

Speaker 1:

But yeah, I'm wearing a bathing suit top right now, just so you know that's hilarious.

Speaker 3:

I love it though yeah, I mean, it's got to be comfortable.

Speaker 1:

Well, some people swear by it. Uh, I personally think it cuts off the circulation. I think it's going to cut off lymphatic flow For sure. It's definitely um, the research that I did online was you know, there was both sides of the argument saying that that didn't make a difference. But I think I I don't think there's a way that you can put something on your skin like that and like pulling in like that. That's not going to cut off circulation and lymphatic.

Speaker 3:

Well, I know that. I mean, every woman has a different set of knockers. That you know, when I wear a bra, they kind of because I mean everything's for the male gaze, Fuck you. But they kind of try to mush them together so you get like cleavage the female gays also like women's tits that is actually absolutely true here's the thing. Who doesn't like tits?

Speaker 2:

nobody doesn't gay men love tits they love tits so much they suck their mothers. Isn't that fucked up, effed up? Sorry, we're not sponsored. The babies are watching.

Speaker 3:

The babies are watching me anyway, talking about, like, when we sleep, um and we'll probably talk about this more later but when I sleep on my side, and so if I'm already smushing those, when you smush the boobs together, you get chest wrinkles yeah, yeah, for sure to me.

Speaker 3:

The other part of that is like why would I, if anything I was looking into, there's chest pillows you can sleep with that. Keep your tits separated while you sleep. I just want to tuck them into my like armpits. You know, like, like, like a football I feel like mine are always separated like they don't. They gotta keep them separated, oh my god the offspring, that's what they mean yeah, they're talking about the boobs. You don't want chest wrinkles I just this wrinkle that goes up.

Speaker 3:

You know it's, it's something that happened. I mean, I was like noticing it. One day it looked down. I was like holy shit, and they weren't going away. Like in the morning it's one thing, but like afternoon I'm still seeing him and I was like, oh no, I don't even look to see. So now this is the, we'll talk about them, but those silicone patches, all right anyway, so yeah, x-ray on the bra lay.

Speaker 1:

That's what I think um sagging is they're saying is really it's it's mostly genetic and exactly, yeah, it's muscle those muscles. Um now, I did want to point this out. Marilyn Monroe swore that she wore a bra to bed for the entire time that she was alive.

Speaker 2:

So 37 years, something like that, right 37?.

Speaker 1:

Put it in the comments if you know, and we don't Anything, please just connect with us.

Speaker 2:

Someone comments. Someone will tell you the age when she first started wearing a bra.

Speaker 1:

Yes, Somebody will know that. Oh yeah, that's true.

Speaker 2:

They actually probably have all this information. People don't realize that the creeps are creepy, but they also know things.

Speaker 3:

As long as they follow us, I don't care creeplopedias yeah, oh, I like that, thank you.

Speaker 2:

They are kind of weakied. Okay, come on let's move um.

Speaker 1:

She believed that wearing the the bra actually helped to maintain her figure and prevent her boobs from sagging. She said, okay. So there was a friend of Marilyn Monroe's whose name was Amy Green, and she described her bra.

Speaker 3:

Sounds fake. She's from a different school.

Speaker 2:

You don't know her, amy Green. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

She wore a bra that was very big and it felt very constructed, like something you might wear in a convent. Interesting, just the opposite of what you would think.

Speaker 3:

I've never really thought about a nun's bra. This is something I'm not once I mean go off queens with your bras.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I want to know. I feel like it's illegal to even think about their boobs. Yeah, but no.

Speaker 3:

I feel like nuns would just use think about their boobs.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, but no, I feel like nuns would just use cloth and safety pins or something I would think that they're just all natural.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, I would love to think that, but I think there's something too sexual about them swinging around freely you know willy-nilly, that's true.

Speaker 2:

Natural tits are just well, they hit different, it's in their word, they literally hit different.

Speaker 3:

They will knock you out bro.

Speaker 1:

We'll be right back.

Speaker 2:

It's Saturday night.

Speaker 1:

Right, did I cut you off? No, no, you're good, okay, good Like the circulation on my tits, all right.

Speaker 3:

Not many thing. Am I cutting you off? Yes, sorry.

Speaker 1:

Potential downsides, especially underwire Underwire sucks.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if I've ever even owned an underwire bra I have.

Speaker 1:

I grew up in the 80s. That's what my mom wore. I wasn't allowed to wear not a bra around my house past a certain age because my mom didn't want nipplage to be showing. To my family yeah, the cartwrights are coming over for dinner.

Speaker 2:

And they're gonna see your 11 year old nipples.

Speaker 1:

No, it's actually within our own family. The cartwrights weren't allowed over to dinner.

Speaker 2:

Oh, the cartwrights didn't come over. They weren't over, oh man.

Speaker 1:

Just within the own.

Speaker 2:

Did you grow up on Bonanza or was it Big Valley?

Speaker 1:

Big Valley is what this?

Speaker 2:

is right here.

Speaker 1:

Speaking of that's good.

Speaker 2:

Ah, Bonanza.

Speaker 1:

Ah, Bonanza.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, it's Italian, I like that.

Speaker 1:

So yeah, so I prefer to have my boobs unrestricted during sleep and I think it's better. I think it's just better in general and it probably would keep you. I mean, there was a whole thing during the pandemic saying like don't wear a bra, and if you wear a bra you're going to get saggier.

Speaker 3:

Well, I would think muscle atrophy happens from lack of use. Sure and a big part of the bra is keeping them sitting up and perky Again male gaze. I don't think this is anything, unless you have like double J tits then having some help and some back support like it makes sense. But the average woman who has like C cup and smaller, like they don't need over the shoulder?

Speaker 1:

boulder holders.

Speaker 3:

Okay, they got pebbles and they can carry them around, and that's like if your muscles atrophy, then I would imagine even more sagging. I mean, that's also something that I think that happens in our face too. It's like if our muscle if we lose muscle definition fat in our face, things start to sag. So to me, just do some push-ups, man.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, do some bench press this muscle's right here, I'm assuming right? Yeah, what are the muscles under here?

Speaker 2:

Well, that's kind of your core. That's like your core. Yeah, like your core, like your obliques.

Speaker 3:

Definitely, your core is everything.

Speaker 1:

All right, I got to start working out. Just add it to the list.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know the nuns are working out.

Speaker 1:

So this is a side, this is a sidebar. Okay, so I looked this up and apparently, according to the internet, marilyn Monroe had like these other weird tricks to enhance her beauty.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I've never heard of any.

Speaker 1:

Now this one I don't understand. It's sewing three buttons together and then placing them inside your dress. Where inside? That's what I don't get, and it didn't explain it.

Speaker 3:

The next ones.

Speaker 1:

I understand, but yeah, three buttons together and then sewing them inside your dress. I'm trying to figure where that would be.

Speaker 2:

And place them inside her dress. Oh, three, three buttons.

Speaker 1:

Oh, three buttons, so you'd only need two. I was going to say like, right here and here, because that's what she said she would add marbles to her bras, to make them look like nipples.

Speaker 3:

Yep, yeah, that makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Exactly Using five different types of lipstick and gloss to create a fuller power. I mean, we've all done that, right yeah.

Speaker 3:

I mean, I haven't personally, but it's basically like a what do you call it? Contouring.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, exactly, she was contouring before. Contouring was cool.

Speaker 3:

Go ahead, girl Arching.

Speaker 1:

Arching her eyebrows, kind of shaping, yeah, doing more shaping, sharpening her cheekbones, and I'm assuming with makeup, because I no, I just put my chisel them off.

Speaker 2:

You sharpen them with rock, that's what you do.

Speaker 3:

Is that how it works?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, depending on how hard her-.

Speaker 3:

She takes the marbles out of her bra and chews on the marbles Exactly, chews on the marbles, that's probably what killed her.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, she wasn't very sharp, no, and then making her eyes look really deep set, which is just with makeup.

Speaker 3:

More contouring. Yeah, it seems like contouring was she knew how to create an illusion.

Speaker 2:

I have one more that I'm. I heard she doesn't sleep. Yeah, dark circles around the eyes, right, exactly that creates a nice contour.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's a nice empty soul. Look, yeah, it's fine. Yeah, um, I heard from someone. So a friend of mine lives in a building where she used to live um with this other woman. It might've even been that person, because she used to Amy green, amy, green, me, green.

Speaker 1:

She used to hang her bras out apparently it was. She was known for hanging, like she would wash her bra and then just hang them like outside the window where everybody could see them, almost like to show them off. But um, they claim that she would to get that sort of jiggly walk that she would take whatever. Yeah, if you ever watch her she knows she's like don't look a bone okay you know what I mean now. Just you'll notice it now when see it.

Speaker 1:

So she would take one side of her shoe high heel and make it shorter than the other.

Speaker 3:

So add like a little swagger to it. Oh, wow, Well there's, are we talking about-?

Speaker 2:

So she also died of knee pain. Yeah.

Speaker 1:

She was dating a chiropractor.

Speaker 3:

I mean, she's lucky she died so young because if she kept going, like at like 60 years old. She would have been like quasimodo. Oh my god, saggy like her tits are in her pants.

Speaker 1:

She's got one side lopsided anyway. She's got sharp jaws chewing on marbles for some reason she's got no teeth left.

Speaker 3:

Um, but no, my big thing with marilyn monroe is she called like or I don't know if she called her, someone else has coined it this but the, the Maryland effect, and she basically understood, understood, like kind of like energy and how, how you can just shoot. But she figured out how to kind of like turn it on and off, like they'd be walking around and she'd go to her friend like watch this, and she would just kind of step into this different kind of Maryland, or your friend Maryland oh your friend maryland.

Speaker 3:

Oh, I don't remember, anyway, maryland I'm high, so it's okay.

Speaker 1:

It's okay that totally threw me for a loop. I was actually.

Speaker 3:

I was looking at that was don't worry about it but she, um, she could just like turn on like a different kind of like thing, this different persona, aura, whatever you want to call it like. Maybe she walked a little bit differently, she put herself out there a little bit more and she said that her friend that would be walking with her that's where the friend came from She'd be like what the hell? All these men would start coming up and like the traffic would stop for her, like all this stuff would happen and when she'd kind of understood, like the power that that she held, I think, yeah, she's probably one of the first that sort of she led, maybe with her, her heart, her energy, wherever that's coming from, I think there's been a lot of women in history who have mastered that, like Cleopatra and Helen of Troy, I mean, there was wars that were started for women, a lot of women.

Speaker 1:

So I think I need to work on this. So more men will go to war? Yeah, because they won't do it on their own.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I need them out of here. Men are so peaceful. What's it?

Speaker 2:

going to take.

Speaker 1:

All right, so let's look at the next one.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God Oil has become the new woman.

Speaker 3:

What Oil has become the new?

Speaker 2:

woman? Oh right, yeah, because people fight over natural resources and power.

Speaker 1:

Oh, speaking of oil, one more thing. She used to put Vaseline on her face for the soft.

Speaker 3:

She was slugging.

Speaker 1:

And she had peach fuzz.

Speaker 3:

What's slugging? Slugging is when you cover yourself in once. You do all your skincare, you do everything. You cover yourself in a petroleum-based thing like Vaseline or Aquaphor or something, and that helps seal your skin barrier even further.

Speaker 1:

Can your skin breathe when?

Speaker 3:

it's like that, though I think it's because I don't know the science behind petroleum, but yeah, people swear by it All right, especially people with really dry skin or like rosacea and like some really serious inflammation.

Speaker 1:

Okay, yeah, that's true. Just smush down all the dead skin that's about to try to fall off.

Speaker 3:

Listen, I'm not an est. I've never done it because I don't know how I could sleep like that. I'd roll over and my hair would be like stuck to my face.

Speaker 1:

Oh my God, yeah, it's too flammable.

Speaker 2:

Too flammable for me.

Speaker 3:

I agree, yeah, next to a joint.

Speaker 2:

Mm-hmm, I sleep next to a flame.

Speaker 1:

I do my skincare next to fire.

Speaker 2:

We do live in West Hollywood, that's right Boom.

Speaker 1:

Roasted. Okay, so we talked about well, we only talked about it, for we talked about night guard, right? Yeah, I mean not in detail.

Speaker 3:

I said I wear mine and I like it. I went to a dentist, I paid a lot of money to get mine done for real and I love it. Okay, that was that's my story. I was grinding my teeth. It can help with the shape of your face. So if you grind your teeth. If you have a lot of jaw tension, you'll have bigger masseter muscles which can give you more of like a.

Speaker 1:

Also, if you have shorter teeth too, you're going to look weird.

Speaker 3:

Well, and yeah, my teeth are starting to chip or grind or kind of you know whatever. So that'll affect your teeth and your look. So I just have like no teeth in the front.

Speaker 1:

So I just have like no teeth in the front.

Speaker 2:

You sleep in a lot.

Speaker 3:

Huh, yeah, I'm just in bed going. Ah Poop, sorry, I don't know if I can guess. So yeah, night guard.

Speaker 1:

Nice save.

Speaker 3:

That was good info I was like poop Big on the night guard, yeah, and if you can't afford it.

Speaker 1:

Amazon has like some cheapo stuff that can hold you over until you can. Oh, like just a sort of generic sort of thing you can just bite into boiling water.

Speaker 3:

You have to be really careful. It's not perfect. I used to do it when I did mouthguards for sports it's probably from china.

Speaker 1:

It's covered in melamine, but don't worry about it. Who knows?

Speaker 3:

it's got that prop 65, yeah, but I'm very fortunate that I have insurance and some cash, so no, I don't put anything in my mouth unless it has that prop 65 warning on it same. Yeah, that's why all my boyfriends have the prop 65.

Speaker 2:

Warning I can't believe people voted on that.

Speaker 1:

Prop 65. Alright, so I wear a retainer. I mean, obviously that's just almost too easy, you still wear it, though when did you have braces? I had braces three thrice.

Speaker 3:

Oh well, that explains why you're really holding on yeah now.

Speaker 1:

I'm holding on yeah because there was a time when the first time I had braces it was done by a bad orthodontist. So then I went to the other one and then they were great, and then I had my retainer and then I just slowly lost it. You know, like I would spit it out in the middle of the night and then like I wouldn't be, and then I would always find it like way underneath the bed.

Speaker 3:

I've heard of people doing this in the middle of the night.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, my friend said when she got her night guard.

Speaker 3:

She was like no, I'd like wake up and be on my pillow next to me.

Speaker 1:

And I'm like, what are you doing? I wish next to me and I'm like, what are you doing? I wish like, yeah, I've never dropped a retainer that didn't somehow figure out a way to go completely towards the middle of the bed until the biggest dust bunny.

Speaker 3:

oh, yeah, it's, and you can't reach it with your arm because, yeah, it's really so do you have more advanced retainers now, like the clear ones, or do you like the old?

Speaker 1:

I'm using the old school one. Oh, hell, yeah, yep, well, don't you?

Speaker 2:

have that one where you put it in your mouth, but then you also have it tied to another tooth. So if it comes out it's just tied like a chain and just dangles.

Speaker 3:

Like a wallet chain. Yeah, that's it.

Speaker 2:

It's very punk, the wallet chain retainer. She wakes up. It's just next to her wallet. Sorry about that.

Speaker 1:

That's really funny. Is that a line of drool? No, it's a chain. That nickel fell out of your mouth. You should invent it.

Speaker 3:

Pitch that to Shark Tank.

Speaker 2:

Oh my God, oh my God, mark Cuban. He hates me.

Speaker 1:

I love sandwiches no.

Speaker 2:

I'm sorry he's going to hate me.

Speaker 1:

He's going to love the way he hates you All. Right night guard. Um, okay, so let's do this. This is going to lead us to. This is a topic I know you are very, very well versed in. I just saw a billboard for this you did mouth taping what?

Speaker 2:

who's promoting it? Something with god. It's like a. It's on santa monica right down the street I'm being serious and it's like a woman who has a thing it's a piece of tape over her mouth but then a tiny little slit like right over here, so like she can like breathe out of.

Speaker 3:

Sure, sure, sure, okay, so maybe this is a product. It's a product now, yeah, okay.

Speaker 2:

But I figured, like it's that big now, that like because I've never seen a billboard for it. Very, I want to give you guys some field reporting. Thank you very much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I did not.

Speaker 3:

Okay, that's. It's interesting too thing. I don't know whoever's idea was like. We got to make this a product, which I did. It was just like just go to get, go get taped. But um, and I did one time, so I did get in to mouth taping in the beginning, um, I still do it on occasion. Um, it's more out of laziness, not out of effectiveness.

Speaker 1:

It works but uh, what do you mean? More out of laziness, that you don't do it just doing the whole rigmarole before bed.

Speaker 3:

I mean, like sometimes, especially with the amount of like drugs and alcohol that I consume, all the prostitutes I'm just tired and I just fall asleep. So it's just kind of like I it's just, it is what it is, yeah, um, but mouth taping is great one for men.

Speaker 1:

Just shut the fuck up, oh yeah just that was a joke yeah, um, but I said it so seriously because I was like no, I'm on board, shut the fuck up.

Speaker 3:

But I also meant it yeah um, no, but time piano wire this is mal taping, um, no, but okay, jokes aside though, for real, for men, anyone that snores it's like really great for that. Um, and you're essentially you've, you force the pieces of your mouth. What do you call your posture? The posture of your tongue, the posture of your mouth, where everything sits and lies? You're essentially forcing your mouth to stay in a mewing position. If you guys know what mewing is, it's your neutral tongue position should be up against the roof of your mouth.

Speaker 1:

Tongue posture yes tongue posture.

Speaker 3:

So when you do that it lifts up your neck and that term is called mewing. So, like models, when they do their thing they'll mew and essentially they're making sure that their tongue is on the roof of their mouth and it also can give you an illusion, at least, of a much tighter jaw. But it also releases your jaw because your tongue is suctioning up against the roof of your mouth. Your jaw is not keeping everything together.

Speaker 2:

Your tongue is doing it.

Speaker 3:

Your tongue's a muscle, and so it should be able to theoretically, should be able to do that. So when you mouth tape, you're forcing the tongue to stay on the roof of your mouth. Okay, it has nowhere else to go. So, that helps. And then when you're snoring and you're and that's just ugly first of all it's ugly, but also that's how you get like disgusting neck disease. That's not. That's not a real thing, but you know what I mean.

Speaker 3:

Like, just like jiggly fucking turkey dnd. Yeah, jiggly turkey neck yuck. Stuff is over time, your mouth breathing, yeah, all that stuff. Like you're, that's just horrible tongue posture. Um, you can get tmj from that, all these other issues so who doesn't love a mouth breather? And who doesn't love a mouth breather? Mouth breather, yeah they're making babies now, yeah there's so many jokes, but they're all inappropriate.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, um, you know, you can go online and you can google um mouth breather versus nose breather and you can literally see what happens over time to a person's facial structure. And it ain't cute kids.

Speaker 1:

It's also better for your teeth because your mouth doesn't dry out. Yes, that's a big thing.

Speaker 3:

Your mouth pH. There's a pH balance in your mouth and if that's not regulated, yeah, all that can get really all that can get messed up. You can get uh, what's it called? You can get a yeast infection in your mouth from not having that balance correct.

Speaker 1:

I think I've had that before I have had that before.

Speaker 3:

It wasn't fun. It's. It's called uh, something else like thrush or something. Thrush, yeah, so all that I love that band.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, sorry caitlin. No, that's a great joke, actually wait, is that the one?

Speaker 2:

oh, yeah, yeah, what is that?

Speaker 1:

I don't know, isn't that for rock and roll?

Speaker 2:

like this, oh, like this okay, yeah, yeah, all right, sorry to interrupt you for that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so that's mouth tape. Okay, and you can also. I found that you, if you use this and you put a little bit of like the kinesio tape, cut a piece. If you put a little bit of something on yourinesio tape, cut a piece. If you put a little bit of something on your lips, it'll stay well enough and you can breathe through it pretty much.

Speaker 3:

I mean, yes, I don't, I don't need to breathe through my mouth like I can. I think there's a. There is kind of a fear the first time I did it, because it's not something that you're used to, but then I end up feeling kind of like secured by it, I don't know how to. It's almost like being swaddled. Oh yeah, and so I actually really like the feeling. It's the same thing I wear an eye mask, you know, I wear my bonnet. It's kind of like I like getting all tied up in that. Getting all tied up.

Speaker 1:

That's a different podcast, Well.

Speaker 2:

I know when you breathe out of your mouth, I mean your mouth dries, and then people wake up and they do that thing and that's like the sleep apnea. That's bad for your heart too. All of it. People wear those CPAPs.

Speaker 3:

So I can't say that mouth taping will prevent or any of that, but I will say definitely with snoring. And if you're Also, some people are afraid that's why they invented this one with a little slit in the mouth. Another little thing to keep in mind is when you remove it the next day, you can put some, you can put some oil on it just to make otherwise, you're just it can.

Speaker 3:

like. You want the tape to be sticky, you know you need it to stay on and if you sweat in your sleep or do anything else, you want to be able to stay on. But, in the morning. If you just like, peel that off, it's going to hurt like hell.

Speaker 1:

So just drop some oil on it, just put a little something there.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, water, even sometimes, is enough Just to loosen it up.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, silicone scar tape, which is what I have on my forehead right now. Yeah, I took it off of my cheeks. And where else do I have it? Oh, oh, around my eyes. Yeah, um, I want. I just want to tell people if you get it, so like you can buy it in the really expensive one. There's a brand called sio or co or something yeah, that's the one you use.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, they're amazing and I love them, but you know they're very expensive as they don't sell scar tape either, they only sell patches. They sell already pre-cut patches. These you have to cut on your own and we don't.

Speaker 2:

You know these are, we don't that's how they pass the savings on to you. Yeah, exactly, you cut on your own yeah, yeah it's just. It's a simple three-week course it costs more to get the certification than it does just to buy the other brand I like that.

Speaker 1:

that's very smart. Um, so, yeah, so you can cut them. Um, when you do around your eyes, make sure you, I like to put a little bit of an eye serum on underneath first, because it is and don't put it too close under your eyes, right. So, like when I go to take this off, let's see, and don't get it too close to your hair, let's see. I'm going to take this off right now. Was there anything underneath?

Speaker 1:

when you put it on I put a little bit of a serum on there. How does it look? Okay, yeah, okay, because sometimes it can be a little bit like uh, aggressive, especially under the eyes, it's so sensitive. Yeah, so, and anytime you take off a tape, even with this kinesio tape, you want to hold it down right, hold it down. No, you want to hold the skin down and then sort of try to pull it away.

Speaker 3:

this one is a little basically don't want to be like pulling your skin.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, you know, especially your eye skin yeah, it's just so.

Speaker 3:

It's like very thin skin thin skin. Thin skin, your eye skin, but that can be um that's good to know too, because if you're able to put serum on and then put the scar tape over it, that's that's good. One of the reasons why I don't usually sleep in the silicone stuff on my face is because I put on all my skincare already and like it's just not gonna, it's not gonna stick, yeah these are a little stickier, I feel like to the point where you could actually put something underneath.

Speaker 1:

And the cool thing about the silicone is that it it breathes too. Yeah, it's not just, you're not just putting. Same with the kinesio tape too. They both breathe, um and oh. And another thing with the kinesio do we talk? Talked about it with mouth taping, okay, well, so now you can also do it for you know um like I've done it.

Speaker 1:

Oh no, I didn't do it, I took it all off. But um, this is the other kind. But yeah, I did this for jawline. You can do it for lymphatic drainage, right, and you can see where I've got it going out and down. Yeah, uh, I can't remember if we did your face before on no, I've always wanted to have it professionally done.

Speaker 3:

I've done it to myself.

Speaker 1:

I'll do it next time you come over and then, yeah, you can put it around your wrinkles. There's definitely a ton of online tutorials on like how to you know, apply it again around the eyes.

Speaker 3:

You got to be really careful, but there's one I was watching where she cuts into these different again. It's DIY craft city, but uh, but yeah, it's like, depending on which way that you put certain things in certain areas, you're essentially kind of pull in a good way, you're putting this, putting some tension on the skin and right ways to kind of uh.

Speaker 3:

I don't know if, if you're, if there's a wrinkle that's going this way and you pull the skin this way, it'll kind of open that wrinkle up a little bit, right, and if you're sleeping you're not smushing it.

Speaker 1:

That too right. So, and then, and that's where that comes in um, I want to see this patch that you have, though, for the boobs I, you mentioned co and uh for the silicone patches.

Speaker 3:

Um, I tried a bunch of different chest patches, a bunch of different brands.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 3:

And there's as of right now, I have yet to find one that works as well as CEO and they're expensive but you can get them to last pretty long. And then I also I buy in bulk. When there's a sale, they'll have a sale. It'll be like, I think, for Black Friday it was like 40 percent off and I bought like 20 of them and I just like did it all at once and then, yeah, um they. They usually get 10 uses out of them how does my forehead look?

Speaker 1:

I did it in between my eyes yeah, pretty smooth.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's much smoother. I mean, if you're not able to use those muscles like that, then yeah, there's gonna be a reduction in the wrinkles because it's holding in the moisture and all of that. So yeah, that's another thing it keeps the moisture in. I'm a big fan, especially for pregnant women. A lot of people who can't do botox for different reasons, or or they don't you know, believe in botox or whatever I think silicone is like, I think it's kind of the way to go.

Speaker 3:

There's also you can look at. Uh, there's some images of like plastic surgery and stuff where they've used silicone treatments after the surgery, ones that they don't, and the difference in scar oh yeah, the scarring is like insane. So yeah, if you ever have surgery as well, like definitely look into the scar tape it, I mean so you don't get like the keloids and things you don't get and you just don't get as much of a scar. It might be really faint, yeah, where it would have been really noticeable.

Speaker 1:

It was as it grows. I'm sure it grows in a lot more flat. That's what I'm thinking Like, Michael.

Speaker 3:

And the moisture you mentioned as well, and the moisture.

Speaker 2:

People used to hate silicone. It was bad for you and now it's come back, but only on the exterior. Don't keep silicone in your body.

Speaker 1:

And the straws are making out of silicone.

Speaker 2:

That's right.

Speaker 1:

Cooking utensils are making out of silicone that's right.

Speaker 3:

Cooking utensils they're making out of silicone. I didn't know it was ever a bad thing it's, it's got. It is some form of plastic, right?

Speaker 2:

yeah, so I mean, I'm sure there's every choice we make in life there's a negative outcome so yeah, yeah, I'm worried about my amazon spending, you know you were amazon spending.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh me too so then I'll worry about the plastic yeah, first just like I need to have more than a thousand dollars in my savings account and then then you start going green and then I'll go plastic, go plastic all right.

Speaker 1:

so this is one I added for myself, and this is one that I I think people don't use a lot of times. I think they think it's going to be really super sticky and just raw honey on your face as a mask While you sleep. While you sleep, because if you put it on thin enough with a little bit of water, it will dry. Oh, okay, and so you're not going to be sticking to your pillow, but it's anti-inflammatory, it's got all kinds of minerals in it. Anti-ifungal, antifungal, exactly. No bacteria can live inside this thing, inside of a self-preserving yep. Honey never goes bad.

Speaker 3:

it will get dry, it'll get crispy which makes it taste better, in my opinion, really. Oh, I bet you'd love a nice spoonful of that. It's so good I had a spoonful early, earlier.

Speaker 1:

What'd you say?

Speaker 3:

I want to jump in there here, yummy you can just play with it, um, so it doesn't have to be manuka.

Speaker 1:

manuka is better, yeah, the more the more expensive ones from new zealand, uh are. I've noticed when I had, um, I had a lot of dermatitis on my forehead. It was like pretty bad, like a few summers ago, and that was one thing that would help to calm it down because of the, I think, because it was oxygenating it as well, yeah, and it keeps the inflammation down.

Speaker 3:

It's another one that a lot of plastic surgeons will use in their recoveries Manuka honey.

Speaker 1:

Manuka. If they're using it, you know it works, because they don't use shit. That's natural.

Speaker 3:

Unless they can actually sell it to you, unless it really makes their stuff look better.

Speaker 1:

All right, here's the last one, you ready? Yeah, I just called it that weird pillow.

Speaker 3:

That is, I think that's I mean. I know what you're talking about.

Speaker 1:

There's a brand called the Flawless Face Pillow. They don't represent them. They don't pay me any money. I don't even know if they're going to like what I have to say about it, pay them no mind exactly um, according to them. On their website, they say that um 89 of their users. They saw a reduction in sleep lines within three weeks. 91 of the users reported less breakage or frizz. Oh, on your hair right, okay, after switching it's like a weird shaped pillow.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna it almost looks like two horseshoes connected to a pillow. So when you turn the horseshoes, hold your face kind of in place without your face getting mushed up against a pillow. Okay and it's. I don't know if this one is silk or satin, but it's silk or satin, so that's also why there's less hair breakage and frizz, because that's better for your hair.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I think that's also why there's less hair breakage and frizz, because that's better for your hair. Yeah, I think that's pretty much it like um it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, the silk is probably better that's what I was gonna say I. My question would be I would love to have these numbers compared to silk pillowcases.

Speaker 2:

That's another thing that I do.

Speaker 3:

Um, I have ones that are actually the ones that touch my face. There's ones I put between my legs, right, I mean, as a woman you have to sleep with 18 pillows, it's law. But the ones that touch my face are all silk or satin. So I'm curious. I'm guessing that these numbers are just like a cotton pillowcase or something.

Speaker 1:

Oh, as opposed to yeah.

Speaker 3:

Like what are these? They just saw an improvement, but like what were they sleeping on before?

Speaker 1:

Hey, are these? They just saw an improvement, but like what?

Speaker 3:

were they sleeping on before? Hey, yeah, like they're just on a rock. Yeah, just mushed up on a rock, just get a bunch of unhoused people and do the test, like I don't, I would I have. Those are my questions, um, but I definitely think that's true. I mean, the best thing you can do for if you're talking about overnight beauty and it costs no money, yeah, sleep on your back oh yes, good one it's.

Speaker 1:

So that is that?

Speaker 3:

that's the clincher, that's the, that's the last one that honestly, I mean, if you think about just basic, um physics, I mean, like gravity is just gonna let that sit.

Speaker 1:

Everything's sitting in place where it needs to sit um you can always tell somebody too, there's been as a side sleepers as I get older and they get like that smushy line. It's usually men, like older actors, you see, like that it's just like these, because they're not paying for the botox, like the women, exactly because they don't have to.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, no, it's real, and like I can tell too, when I wake up, like my on one side, like my smile line will be much like deeper because I was sleeping with it kind of mushed, um. So yeah, anyway, sleeping on your back is a challenge to to train, I get about halfway through the night and then I end up rolling over. So that's better than what it was.

Speaker 1:

That's good yeah my trick weighted blanket oh, okay, I don't, I can't roll over. Oh, that makes sense, and I just love the feeling.

Speaker 3:

I told you I love a swaddle it's true I love feeling like there's just a big kid sitting on top of me do you have your feet sticking out or your feet are covered. No, I'm like in the bed, normal as I would be in the, the um. The weighted blanket that I have is almost just like one person size, you know, so I just put that on top. So it's and it's not like one for for for heat, Like Zach see this is, oh my God, no, I'll fall asleep.

Speaker 2:

I'll fall asleep.

Speaker 3:

I can't, I'll be too comfortable.

Speaker 2:

Nikki used to do that with her cat Buster. You used to like put remote controls on him and like, and he would just sit there.

Speaker 1:

He didn't care. I put crystals on his back. Yeah, he loved it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, line my chakras um so I what a weight blanket for me was like. I sleep with it on there every night now and a pillow under your knees too.

Speaker 1:

I do a pillow um yeah sensible dinner yeah, and a sensible dinner, yeah exactly just a half a cup of vodka that's just playing.

Speaker 3:

Good sense, yeah, um also, yeah, not drinking before bed. If we're going to talk about overnight skin care, yeah, um, I'm saying this as I'm about to go to a christmas party after this, I'm gonna get wrecked. Yeah, she's gonna get wrecked tomorrow. It's a good thing we're not doing this podcast tomorrow, because I'd be just like, oh my god puffy and gross.

Speaker 1:

I planned it that way, yeah, well, I think we got through pretty much everything and I can't really think of much more. That's not like. I really can't think of a lot more stuff, honestly.

Speaker 3:

While you sleep Probably not.

Speaker 1:

But it is a good time to like take those few hours that you're in bed, you know, and actually like flatten out your skin or, like you know, keep your mouth shut.

Speaker 3:

It's time management, it's good time management.

Speaker 2:

That's what I've learned from what Caitlin was saying is, the majority of people's problems when they're sleeping, whether it's skin related or health related, is just keeping your mouth shut. Yeah, that's like I mean just keep your mouth shut.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, simple. I mean it's pretty simple. Keep your mouth shut sleep on your back and and listen to this podcast.

Speaker 1:

Oh, I like that. Yeah, that will make you more beautiful. Listen to it on repeat while you're sleeping.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, we should do some affirmations at the end of every episode, so when they fall asleep, it's just subliminal.

Speaker 1:

That's for the Patreon. You don't get that shit for free. Yeah, f you guys. By the way, I brought you an orange in case you were hungry. Thank you, nobody asked me about that one, that is so sweet.

Speaker 2:

I honestly just it looked like a pretty color. I didn't. I didn't pay no mind to it well, here.

Speaker 3:

I just, it was just, it was set deck no, it wasn't.

Speaker 1:

I had I had a bag of oranges in the fridge and I thought well, what if Kaylin's?

Speaker 3:

going somewhere and yeah, I just wanted to make sure you had some like blood sugar you always care about you.

Speaker 1:

You do care about me. I know I really do Well. Thank you so much for being here. This was so fun.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I mean anytime, you know. As you can tell, this is what I nerd out on.

Speaker 2:

That's so cool. I nerd out so hard on this stuff. That's why I called you.

Speaker 3:

I love talking about it and whenever you give me a facial, you're like you have to shut my mouth because I'm just like I didn't hear this thing and this new treatment and this skincare product. You're like shut up, um no. So yeah, this is really fun, thank, you so much, my pleasure.

Speaker 2:

Thank you, uh. Where can people find you? Do you have a computer?

Speaker 3:

I do um, I don't mean to brag, but I actually have two computers oh my god, yeah, what's the web address for one of them? Um, I think you should probably look for me, probably on instagram or tiktok it's probably the best, and, uh, caitlin allen is the name that's, with a c and two i's. And then allen couldn't be spelled worse it's a l y it's really hard just look up, nikki, look at the clips.

Speaker 1:

Find me that way she's been on my first. Yeah, I'm all over the page you'll find me. Yes, it's true. All right, well, um so thank you guys. Have a great christmas if I don't see you yeah happy holidays, and happy holidays to you guys and I will see you guys next wednesday at 3 am.

Speaker 2:

Bye I'm not gonna sleep until then no, you better.

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