Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
THE FACE WE DESERVE/ SPECIAL GUEST KaDee STRICKLAND
This episode with our special guest KaDee Strickland, of the hit show Private Practice, and movies such as The Grudge, Anacondas. to the significance of facial expressions in shaping our identity and health. We discuss how both joyful and harsh experiences imprint our faces, explore the importance of laughter, and celebrate iconic faces that inspire authenticity and self-love.
• Examining how facial expressions reflect our experiences
• The relationship between laughter and facial appearance
• Personal reflections on beauty pressures from upbringing
• Discussing celebrity faces as narratives of lived experiences
• Emphasizing the journey toward self-acceptance through expression
You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Welcome back to Sex Drugs and Skincare. Hi, I'm Nikki Davis Jr. Hi there, Hi, hi, welcome back. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for welcoming me back to my show.
Speaker 2:Thank you, I had no idea. I was here until you said welcome back.
Speaker 1:I know I was like what we were blending in with the scenery, by the way.
Speaker 3:By the way, I was just noticing that I like it though.
Speaker 2:I don't know if it happens just because of the clothes I happen to have clean or if I'm doing it on purpose.
Speaker 1:It could be a little bit of both, and then you've got your stripe through your pajamas that matches as well.
Speaker 2:That's true. I've been a big fan of purple and blue and reds. I like those kind of combination colors.
Speaker 1:It's a shame to have to kick you out once the guest comes over here.
Speaker 2:That's the only reason I like Get dance like no one wants you to be there, I think something like that. But also, you know, when no one's looking, you just do it for the second. You do it for this is for the thumbnail. I do it for the thumbnail.
Speaker 1:Do it for the thought, I do it for the thumbnail, even do it for the thumbnail that's like when you're just like I just gotta get this shit over with yeah, yeah, so I was here, you know people don't realize you're just taking a picture of me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, and then you're like wow, was he good in the movie.
Speaker 1:I was there for 20 seconds? I don't know well, it's like we do the podcast for the clips, basically. So, yeah, so now to do the clips for the thumbnail right if anybody actually watch or listen to podcast.
Speaker 2:You all you hear was but but the teasers are just when we actually speak.
Speaker 1:That's when we speak.
Speaker 2:Yeah, well, thank you that's gonna be on accident from now on.
Speaker 1:That's gonna be terrible well, I'm your skincare therapist. Uh, what am I? Stand-up esthetician, licensed comedian. Yep, this is my co-host, boyfriend slash Sherpa. Slash set decorator. You've done a lovely job today, thank you. You chose the color of the balls. Yeah, I decided to kind of.
Speaker 2:I wanted to be different and keep it the same as last week Because what it does is it creates a level of stability, yet Hmm. Will they do it the same way?
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's kind of like our relationship a little bit. You're right, right, right, it looks like it is.
Speaker 2:Keeps it spicy. We have, like. It's like one of those stores you pass by on the uh, on the freeway, where it says fireworks and it looks like a huge warehouse and then when you get to it, you realize that it's just a tiny place and the giant sides are just built, you know. So it looks like it's a big place.
Speaker 1:Oh, I never even noticed that, yeah that's how we are.
Speaker 2:We're happy. Now, when we go home, it's just fisticuffs, fisticuffs, and we just yell at each other. The cats have to keep us apart. Yeah, that's our relationship. It's a firework store. That's misleading.
Speaker 1:Misleading firework store. I don't know why I picked a fireworks store. I don't know either.
Speaker 2:But I think we're, you know we're explosive, we are explosive. Yeah, you can save it anyway.
Speaker 1:Yeah we have a couples counselor we do that's very explosive.
Speaker 2:I have three therapists right now. You have only two, right? Well, oh yeah, one of them just subscribes the meds, oh, that's right.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 2:yes, I get a monthly subscription to anti anti-depression to being not an asshole pretty much. Yeah, really it's the moods yeah yeah what do?
Speaker 2:you mean? I'm saying the mood shifts that's what I have, a hard time dealing with other people's mood shifts oh, is that what it is no, it's mine. I know it's me. Thank you for saying that thank you and I'm glad to find out that you, you re um, you re-upped your license, your comedic license I did yeah, last week she was thinking about doing it, because wasn't it last week you said you were unlicensed?
Speaker 1:I was because I didn't want to take the state board test because it wasn't exciting enough. Board, that's the kind of writing B-O-R-E-D. Okay, fine.
Speaker 2:No, I like it because I can tell you, re-upped it again because, instead of saying I get the state board exam because I'd be too bored, you said bored and then you said because it's not so exciting. You didn't say bored twice, and that's good writing.
Speaker 1:Speaking of bored, that's another good improv. Yeah, oh yeah, we're going to teach you some bad improv. Great, some good bad improv. Yeah, that's a good one too.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, improv, great good bad improv. Yeah, that one's, that's a good one too. Yeah, oh yeah, bad and ugly, but not on this skincare podcast. There's no ugly on this podcast, no, well, I haven't had anybody, have I no? But there's no ugliness, no good shit, it's all good we have to.
Speaker 1:I can have language, yeah yes, yeah, I think you can. I mean I yes, I have language everybody, she has language um, this is so.
Speaker 2:This is such a great day this has been the best podcast I've ever done. Thank you so much. To see you next week tune in next week.
Speaker 1:This is a great day I know well, this came up very um. Uh, this was not.
Speaker 2:It was planned, but not planned, yeah wait, we, we plan to have a friday. Let's, we did people. At least we plan to have a friday. But what happened to this day?
Speaker 1:we didn't expect it to happen well, originally, uh, I invited a friend whom I've not seen for a while because she's moved away. Um, but she, I've known her for I don't know, like 14 15 years, something like that.
Speaker 3:15 years, bananas 15 years bananas.
Speaker 1:It's crazy. And she was going to do it, we were going to do it on Zoom and then, I don't know, 24 hours later you were like hey, I have a meeting, can you see me? I mean, do you want to?
Speaker 2:can I come in? Let's do it in person.
Speaker 1:And I was like hell yeah, you can.
Speaker 2:I couldn't believe it.
Speaker 1:I couldn didn't text you the first time. I was like she's gonna be busy, she doesn't have time to zoom with me. And now you're here I was wondering.
Speaker 3:I was like she hasn't reached back out about that. We talked about this months ago maybe she's bored no, god, no, we're back to board.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly, oh, you brought it. She brought it back around it's full circle. Yeah, back to board it's the name of the second name of our podcast.
Speaker 2:Yeah, back to black. It's back to back to.
Speaker 1:I get it. Well, let's bring her out.
Speaker 2:Okay, let's do it. Should we do?
Speaker 1:that.
Speaker 2:I'm absolutely excited. You've talked about this person for as long as I've known you, and that's been too long Then.
Speaker 1:I've known you not to talk to a person. Oh, okay, that's true, your friend's very nice Thank you.
Speaker 2:But no, I've known about this person for quite some time. You referenced her. I've talked about you a lot, we've seen you. Oh boy, I don't want to give away what she does, but if you look up at a television that you're watching, you might see her on there. You might have seen her. There's a very good chance that you've seen her on there and I've seen her on there and you've been very, very nice about her, so let's intro okay, so I'm just going to give you the credits that I can recall.
Speaker 1:Do you have anything else that you want to mention, or anything? I don't know what you're gonna say. I know what happens. All right, so she was in the grudge, she was in anacondas which is what?
Speaker 3:the second one yeah, baby, they're remaking it into a comedy. Now did you know?
Speaker 1:there's no way I should be a musical jack black, shut it, it's gonna be fucking great. Oh god God. I wish you were on the event so I could come visit you on set. That's amazing. She was on the Chew.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, that was so fun, that was so fun. I remember. I miss that show.
Speaker 1:It's gone now, right.
Speaker 3:It's gone. I get rid of all the good shit.
Speaker 1:Did I already say Private Practice? No, she was a doctor. What's your dad's name? Charlotte King. That's right, such a great name for a doctor. It was. Dr Charlotte King. It's so suiting for this person on private practice and she was dressed in very little clothing for a very long time in my life.
Speaker 3:Yes, and that was just on your table.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's true too. Table to screen yes, what's that Table to screen? Yeah, that's true too. Table to screen yes, what's that Table to screen?
Speaker 2:Yeah, the farmer's market of acting, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, maybe you would help me get ready, for every time they made me drop trowel Like that's a real thing. Oh my God.
Speaker 1:Yeah, baby. Oh, my God, All right, we're going to bring you over here. You guys come into the couch right now.
Speaker 3:I, yeah, yay, with my friends with with the mystery man that I heard so much yeah, today.
Speaker 2:Wow, I had no idea that you had friends back then. Yeah, the shit talked something I know yeah, thank you I didn't return text messages a lot. I'm sorry you did, I know just a couple times.
Speaker 1:You didn't, and I talked to my therapist about it. Oh, I had to get advice she was sweet on you.
Speaker 3:I actually because you you had changed so much in your life. It was if the south has hair salons where people talk shit, the table it.
Speaker 3:It would go from like because I really fell hard for you, hence the shirt yeah, thank you and you know, I remember there would come a point where, like we would have to get our chatter out of the way and then I I mentally had to relax because your hands were so good, but it was really hard not to want to keep talking shit we'd have to stop at some point.
Speaker 1:Can I put this over there a little bit more, just in case? Yeah, tawdry okay, there you go I just wanted to see it next to your face If I had a dollar.
Speaker 2:We'll be right back.
Speaker 1:That's what we say after arguments too.
Speaker 2:In the middle of an argument and, like one of us will look over and just go, we'll be right back.
Speaker 1:No, we'll be right back Just to break it up. That is good.
Speaker 3:Sometimes we remember how is it being involved with a counterpart that is as wicked, smart and funny as you are? Is it hard to be communicative in a love language or in these moments where relationships get challenging because you're both fucking funny, or does it? Does that break the tension? I'm always so curious.
Speaker 2:I think it breaks the tension, but maybe you know we've definitely been learning the tension, but maybe you know.
Speaker 1:We've definitely been learning communication. Yes, very much. So.
Speaker 2:Re-learning, you know, and I personally think that Nikki's way smarter than I am, because she's just Good that you know that.
Speaker 3:Yes, thank you, I absolutely know that for sure. Yeah.
Speaker 2:She just picks up on stuff I don't, and you see things from a different perspective.
Speaker 1:I don't want to pick up my clothes and dishes, clothes and dishes.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's true, but I find it as a sense of anger, so it's fine.
Speaker 1:I just look at it as like a when I don't care about myself.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but I like it. I like you, know. I see you as a normal person. I don't see you as like the wicked super smart person, but I do see it and I feel it as you're a funny person, you know.
Speaker 1:Don't make this whole thing about me. Let's talk about you?
Speaker 3:No, it's fun.
Speaker 1:I missed you. I know, I missed you too.
Speaker 3:We can talk. What do you?
Speaker 1:want to know. Well, you already said your son was 11. Which is bananas? It is incredible. I remember when you were so pregnant with him, I was so pregnant.
Speaker 3:I loved being pregnant.
Speaker 1:You did, oh, I loved it.
Speaker 3:I mean, yeah, because I think that was probably really and truly especially like doing what I do for a lifestyle. I don't think I understood the value of my body until I became pregnant. Wow, yeah, like that was. I was like, oh, this is so much bigger than my ego. Like, right, and he was the only successful pregnancy I had, so it was like out of the bottle, first attempt so, and I also.
Speaker 1:I was 37, so I think oh my god, you have such a life you've lived, I'd been.
Speaker 3:I think we'd been married, for how fuck was it seven years? Yeah, I think we've been married seven years when I got pregnant, so we'd had time 37 is is later on the spectrum of age, geriatric pregnancy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I didn't want to say that but, yeah, that's what that's what they call it right yeah, wow, I know, not offensive at all, no, but if you're 37, they don't consider you geriatric, though, right, or is it? That is this geriatric a word that's just lumped?
Speaker 3:oh they, there's so many, well, and that was a long time ago, because now I'm 49, so that was, you know, a minute ago you look amazing, you look, you grab the ipad can you imagine what I would look like if you were still slapping me weekly you'd?
Speaker 1:be.
Speaker 3:I think about it all the time when I'm like, like I said, when I see shit in high def and I'm just like, oh, where's Nikki? Oh my God, like that's what it comes down to sometimes you look amazing.
Speaker 1:I don't know what you're talking about, but yeah.
Speaker 3:You know what there's? There's such a grace with aging. I think that I could not have foreseen it is so much less pressure in some ways to actually be the age where you're just like, well, fuck, there's not a lot I can do about it now. It's like Tom York said it best gravity always wins. It's just going to fucking happen, and I think there's a degree with which it's so tempting to just get sucked in to the self-loathing and the fear and all that but I swear having a son.
Speaker 3:And when I did I had an acupuncturist at the time and she said to me because she had this experience where she was in the bath and she'd had her son and her son was little I want to say it was like six months maybe and her husband came into the bathroom while she was in the bath with the baby and she said something about her belly, like something very derogatory about her big fat belly or something, and he said don't talk that way about yourself in front of our son.
Speaker 3:Oh, wow Because you are the framework of what beauty will always be to him. And if he hears that negative self-talk, that's what his standard will become. That's what his standard will become. And when she said that to me it was just like wow, this self-loathing cannot participate in my dynamic.
Speaker 3:No, it ripples outwards yeah, and it really and it and it also just it's exhausting to like do that to yourself. So there's, I mean, like I think a lot of people obviously are talking about the substance. Have you guys seen it? I have not seen it yet. It's. I mean, I love horror anyway and I think the examination and the execution is worth watching. I would not say it's for everyone, but it should be, I think particularly. And I feel like, if you're here also, they didn't shoot in LA. When you see it it'll blow your mind. But it's so balls out Like and I've heard Demi Moore talk about this quite a lot Like the way we can be so harmful to ourselves with the way we talk and all this long winded to say you know, I think when you and I met, you were such an adjacent part of self-care.
Speaker 3:You were built in self-care that was needed for the job, so that I looked good for work, but also it was so. Not about that, and I think about that a lot. I just don't with our kid. I don't want him to ever remember me in this moment as someone who didn't have self-love.
Speaker 1:I can remember my mom I mean, she still does it, she will not allow any photo to be okay. And I grew up that way, thinking that I was never and so I learned how to make the worst faces on camera because I just I was so like thrown off that I didn't know how to smile on camera anymore.
Speaker 2:I've only recently learned it, since you didn't know how to smile on camera anymore.
Speaker 1:I've only recently learned it, since you know when you learn that you have to do a headshot, and yet they have to know how to smile.
Speaker 3:But you're so foxy, you're such a foxy.
Speaker 1:You've always been.
Speaker 3:No, I'm not, it's the truth.
Speaker 1:I look better moving than I do still.
Speaker 2:That's a good. I like that. I I look better moving than I do still.
Speaker 1:Yeah well, I mean every picture that you've taken. That's good of me.
Speaker 2:I don't know you're about to take it. How come your dating profile is nothing but videos?
Speaker 3:Also, if that was a fortune cookie, then you could add in bed.
Speaker 1:Yes, oh, in bed, that's right. Oh, there we go. Yeah, I look better moving than still.
Speaker 3:I'm fucked with two comedians.
Speaker 1:I can't keep up with you. It's because I talk a lot. That's good, Alright. So what? Oh, I was just going to say my mom had the same. So all of us girls learned that we were less than perfect and have striven, strived.
Speaker 2:Striven, striven, striven.
Speaker 1:Yeah, our whole lives to be perfect. I am finally at the point where I'm just like it's not going to be perfect. I am finally at the point where I'm just like it's not going to be perfect. Quote unquote.
Speaker 3:I'm just going to do the best that I can. That word not allowed in the house. No, Really like I have a real problem with that word.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:I do because it's. I mean, it just is resounding mediocrity if you're striving for perfection. Right, Because it's so outer and it's so other and it's so not in real time perfect.
Speaker 2:Perfect doesn't exist unless you frame it yourself, and whatever you think perfect is it's always a comparison, too, of like what you are and what you think it should be in comparison.
Speaker 1:When they say it's death to creativity, yeah it really, and it's.
Speaker 3:It's interesting too, like I remember the makeup artist on Private Practice, the genius Sergio Rivera-Lopez, who now has an Academy Award after that show.
Speaker 1:Oh my God, he's with Viola.
Speaker 3:Davis, that's pretty cool.
Speaker 3:He's the best. I completely understand why she snatched him up and she should, because they're both great people. All that to say, I remember being in the trailer because the one thing will say about actors and you think about the narcissism and the insecurity, particularly if you're a woman. You are sitting in front of your face at four or five in the morning when you need more sleep, all the things, or if you've had too much sodium, it's just like your face is right in your face and it's unnatural to look at yourself that much.
Speaker 2:It is.
Speaker 3:It's completely screwed up, but I remember him saying he was like you know, you've really got to appreciate this, because I look at photos of myself and I think what the fuck was I talking about? Right, and it's so true, it's just, it's like it's like who does that?
Speaker 1:sometimes I'll even give it six months and I'll look back at it and be like what the hell was I thinking like that?
Speaker 2:I thought it was so horrible, yeah, it'll go to anything, even if I've written something down and I go back I'm like this is funny. Did I write this? This is my handwriting instead of saying like oh, this is cool, I'm like I don't remember this. Yeah, you just don't. In that moment it's you can cloud your own perception well, it can't be that good because I did it right, exactly, yeah, that's the mindset yeah, it's like a restaurant across the street can't be that good.
Speaker 1:It's too close to us. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Uh, well, we gotta get over that shit because, like, honestly, the I don't know, maybe it's because this has been such a banana's year so far, but I think my gratitude has been really immense.
Speaker 2:It really and it really, because if you don't have that, it's just abysmal, I think right now it just feels that way, then nothing is, then nothing is how you want it.
Speaker 3:No, and it is. There's a. There was a really lovely. I saw this great interview with Laura Dern, who I think is just a brilliant oh my. God, everything about her. Love her and she. She was asked. I want to say the question was what advice would you give your younger self? Or one of those kinds of questions, and it was. I think about it all the time. Keep your eyes on your own paper.
Speaker 3:And it's just like, yeah, if we did that more, what would we actually see? What would we do? You know like how would our life look?
Speaker 1:You can't compare things, it's just. Is that what you're talking about? It's human, yeah.
Speaker 3:It's so human and I think it's so we're emboldened to do it with sort of the you talk about the generation that we came up in with sort of the. You talk about the generation that we came up in, I think. I think you're emboldened to just like self-hate to a certain degree, cause there was a lot of money was being made on self-hatred and insecurity.
Speaker 3:I think we were very much branded with that. That was the brand and that was, and honestly it's funny Cause when I think about, like, all the skincare and all this stuff. When I met you, it very much changed my perception about how to relate to the largest organ on my body, not my ass, but it plays like an organ, sometimes Very musical plays like an organ.
Speaker 3:Sometimes You're very musical, no, but it's, it's, it's. It is interesting Like I related to my skin differently because of you and certainly with my pregnancy I was so hardcore because of you and what you taught me. Now I need to remember that more.
Speaker 1:What like? What are you talking about? What you put on your body?
Speaker 3:Oh, what you put on. Yeah, anything you put on your body goes into your body.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but also I like that you and I would work on things like that would make your skin look healthy. Yes, I wasn't trying to make you look perfect. I was trying to get rid of, you know, any lymphatic stagnancy like lift many muscles that you know, stuff the fat pads where they're supposed to be for a little while, and then your body. You were doing the treatments too, so then and that's also lymphatic drainage- and it's good for your nervous system.
Speaker 1:So it's you weren't. I never got the sense that you were just doing it, for like, I've had actors that came in specifically just for their ass uh so that they could do a movie. I'll tell you later who it later is. I can't remember. Oh yeah, I can't remember. Oh yeah, oh boy, ving Rhames yeah.
Speaker 3:What Amazing Jeez.
Speaker 1:But you know what?
Speaker 3:I mean, it's also that thing of like hey man, it's your package to each his own. Sure, but also I have to say, and I've actually I didn't when it happened. There's the brilliant Wendy O'Brien, the casting director.
Speaker 2:Do you?
Speaker 3:know who she is? She O'Brien, the casting director. Do you know who she is? She's a genius, abbott Elementary. Yeah, yeah, yeah, brilliant, she's brilliant. She is such a. I mean, I have a love affair with casting directors because I don't think any of this happens in anyone's life unless you have support, and they are the ultimate cheerleader for a person in my position.
Speaker 2:That's cool.
Speaker 3:And it can only go to a certain degree. But and she loves comedy, right. But Wendy is brilliant and I remember going in for something and being very, very close and it ended up, you know, shifting last minute. I'd bought the champagne and was so pissed off when it changed. But she had championed me and I remember when I came in to talk to her about what was happening, what the process would be, she just looked at me and went I love how your face has aged.
Speaker 3:And I had that moment, of you know, I was like, okay, I'm glad I held out, like I'm glad I've held out a little and that there's a, there is an actual payoff. And I think there's also the thing of I mean, quite honestly, my bread and butter has not been pressurized. Like some actresses. I feel so deeply for what it must be like to keep that shit up. Right Like that must be exhausting to be that beautiful and to know that if you have one bad day, it's going to be documented somebody will photograph you don't give a fuck about that with me, which is great I mean it is ultimately you're able to do more.
Speaker 1:You look, you're a natural beauty and you really like I you.
Speaker 3:I grew into my cuteness, so thank you if you see childhood pictures of me.
Speaker 1:I'm such a dork ass dork, that's usually good, that's right. So that's why you have the uh, what's the word?
Speaker 2:I'm looking isn't that what dad stands for?
Speaker 3:dork ass, dork dork in my house, just that's my kid yeah, you have humility, though.
Speaker 1:Like is that the right word? Um I'll take it? Yeah, you're not, you know yeah, you're not walking around because if, if you, if you were in your body, knowing you were as hot as you are at all moments, you would be right back at you, sister.
Speaker 3:Thank you, got all pointy on that I felt that I was going for the dot in between the girls, okay yeah, I was.
Speaker 1:I went for this one, but that's okay okay.
Speaker 3:We all have our favorites. We do which one's your favorite. Do you have a favorite nipple?
Speaker 2:I prefer, actually I'm starting to prefer the right one. The seventh nipple. I love that movie, yeah, but that's the one that that's a good one, that's the one that gets the itch, the itch, the seventh nipple itch.
Speaker 1:Oh. I thought, that's what it was you need a new dog. Start fantasizing about other people's pets.
Speaker 3:I'm going to start getting real quiet and just listen to the two of you. Oh my God, I'm just thinking of dog nipples now.
Speaker 2:And animal.
Speaker 1:You know that all animals have nipples.
Speaker 2:Anyways, I want to get to today's topic, which is animal nipples.
Speaker 1:No, yes, today's topic. I'm very well versed.
Speaker 2:Okay versed.
Speaker 1:Okay, today's topic is uh, I was trying to get the right title for it, but it's basically like how we get the face that we deserve. Um, it is the power of your own facial expressions and how our facial expressions can shape and make, which is one of the reasons why you look as amazing as you do is because you are not a crappy person.
Speaker 3:Thanks, yeah, wow do you like how I summarize that? I like that because I, when you, when you said the topic, I was a little like slightly don't understand. But I can't wait, tell me more, let's see what I and don't know too much, this will be fun well, they say, by the time you're 50, you get the face you deserve.
Speaker 3:And that's because you've been making the expressions over and over again right, oh, wow, right that's really beautiful, well, and life can fuck you up right, like life can really harden, and it's interesting because I've played a lot of hard women or like tough bitches or whatever you know. So there's there's or tough customers, I suppose, and with that comes certain, certain expressing, but also, like my face is crazy, it's so animated and I think that I mean there's no stopping. There's no stopping that. And it is funny because sometimes you know you really need to call on stillness and processing in a still way.
Speaker 1:So being acting, you mean yeah.
Speaker 3:But being a parent has sort of like knocked that into me. One must get very still, otherwise they're very reactionary. Sometimes it's interesting, but it's, and my kid's at the age right now he's 11, and he's all about pulling faces about everything because you know we have to get on about language, because he's also trying that on and we try to be a safe space. But now we're like, okay, maybe we've been a little cavalier, because if he can do that at home, just to try it on, so he doesn't get in trouble anywhere else.
Speaker 1:He wants to make sure he's saying it right.
Speaker 3:He's obsessed with comedy, by the way, he doesn't. It's funny. My husband and I met on a horror film.
Speaker 1:We both died in he's and I heard Tony Hale talk about this once in an interview which I thought was so fascinating. Tony Hale, tony Hale, yes, brilliant, I love him so much Brilliant, so good.
Speaker 3:He was talking about how vivid his imagination is and he was saying that he can't see horror because it's too real to him. And my child is that in spades, like he cannot anything intense. He's only just seen his first Marvel films this year. I think Wow, like he, just he couldn't. He couldn't take cars when he was a little boy because the minute the character was in peril he was upset. But you give him Jim Carrey or Jack Black or Adam Sandler.
Speaker 1:That's so silly.
Speaker 3:Well, you know what's amazing. So where we move, we move to the Midwest to raise him differently, because that seems to be the best fit for our child and because now, post COVID and post strike, there's no reason to be here, unless you were required to fly out, which you've been called upon, I've been called upon and it's easy and honestly it's.
Speaker 3:I couldn't have anticipated how beneficial this was going to be for all of us to have this recalibration and the thing about the school system he's in now, which is public and as nice as any private school out here even hopes to be, which is bananas they have when they go to middle school, which he's not in yet but he will be. They have this thing called flex period and they have different clubs. They have fly fishing, swifties and standup comedy for sixth graders?
Speaker 1:No way, come on, so you can find your people. It's basically like this is our competition now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, how, how do you?
Speaker 1:define who you are. Yeah, the sixth graders.
Speaker 3:Middle school Coming in last Look out.
Speaker 1:Oh man, we better get good.
Speaker 2:I have a friend who is in and I'm, but no, he's doing really well out there.
Speaker 3:The scene out there is different. It's completely different.
Speaker 2:And that's something that can be manipulated into something like fostering talent or whatnot. So that's pretty cool. Out here usually I find it's like get me on camera quick and then people kind of take off.
Speaker 3:Right, what's also so weird. I mean it's like the youtube of it all and all of that, like it's just very different anywhere. I mean it, yes and oh boy, because I have the kid. Like my relationship to all that shit's terrible, but you know you can watch podcasts, so there's you know, there's he's learning to play like white stripes on trumpet, because you can do this teaching himself how to play piano. You know things like that. Wow, yeah, he's. He's very musical.
Speaker 1:I've seen him, pretty man. Is he playing the drums or he's drummer?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, really good and sing really well too. I don't know like this genetic shit doesn't run through me it's like so other, but he's very creative, um, and, and I'm interested in that. But I I do wonder because his love of comedy, you know what's so great too? They have children's books. There's this great children's book series called I Funny and it actually gives you certain like. Rodney Dangerfield is in it and he's like Mom who's David Letterman.
Speaker 2:I was like let me tell you, son, the mysterious man of geniuses, and now I can show him that he read about them first.
Speaker 3:Wow, and it's all about this kid who's obsessed with comedy. It's great, that's so cool, you've. But when you figured it out for yourself, I remember, after being slapped around you being like I'm going to do this thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because I talked to Maria Delpret at that was on your set on private practice, who is also a comedian and a makeup artist. Yes, and I was. We were. I had already been thinking about it and I met her. I don't do you know her, maria del prette?
Speaker 1:name sounds familiar, but I don't think she, um, we just met and we were talking about something and I said, uh, you know, she goes, I'm the make, I'm a makeup artist on the you know on the show. And, um, I don't know, she said something like who are you? And I, I don't remember who are you?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah don't question me. Um, but she said she was a comedian and I was like tell me what to do, and so she sort of directed me to a class and then you know the class, you learn like five minutes or whatever. You know, you just come up with your own stuff and then they punch it up and then off you go and that was it.
Speaker 3:I gotta say, babe, like because I think, particularly after covid, my need to laugh. You know, because I, when I lived in new york prior to coming out here, I'd go see comedy all the time and then you get in the rat race out here. I mean I was in walking distance of largo. Oh my god, what the fuck was wrong with me that I wasn't there every single night. But I think you know, I mean you, you come to things when you come to things, but certainly post-covid, my need to laugh in community, like I really I understood why I loved comedy so much.
Speaker 3:Because now for me, like I think about it a lot and I've watched a lot of comedy and I've sort of like any time and there's, it's such the place to be now, like comedy specials, everything, and like when I came out here, it's like I've run into Sarah Silverman all the time.
Speaker 3:By the way, still, anytime I have like I've never mentioned. I remember when I met you a hundred years ago and just she was great and I would go to the comedy store and stuff because it would be a happening, it'd be something to do, and it really occurred to me post-COVID, going back to comedy and seeing the shows and how it felt and how it felt to be in community that way, with laughter I realized, like people sort of think about acting, which is what I do, they give it a certain reverence, right, and I do think, yes, there's a certain reverence right, and I do think, yes, there is a certain reverence to it. The vulnerability required, all that stuff, but the fucking comedy and music, the vulnerability, the creativity, the ability to fall on your ass with complete abandon.
Speaker 3:The bravery of it, it's just. It's unparalleled to get up and to just go I know to do it every night, to recalibrate every night, to work yourself, to be willing to fail, which I think actors have have such a a different relationship to failure, like the risk, and the most interesting actors take the risk and they fail and they fuck it up and that's why they're great to watch, right.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:But it's so much required bravery to be in that, particularly like next door 50 seater Right, you can't escape anything in that room. And it's the charge of that. Like I was in London last year around the election, which was so fascinating to hear comedians in another country, I mean literally within 24 hours. I think I was maybe 45 hours, 45. I can't, math is not my specialty.
Speaker 1:Okay, 72. We'll go 72.
Speaker 3:That's a nice hard number that I can remember, but I think it was 72 from the time I returned and the election happened, but hearing comedians in another country examine americans and, like me, being the asshole in the audience they're like you know, like I just I couldn't stop. I can't when I need to laugh, I can't stop myself. I've been so punked in the audience too, by comedians because I really I need to laugh hard when something's funny, like my body.
Speaker 2:I can't you can't stop that Now.
Speaker 3:I'm going to bring this back around.
Speaker 1:That is what has made your face the way it is, though, is because you are. You do prioritize things that make you happy and make you laugh.
Speaker 2:because, yeah, and like with doing comedy, like I never think of, I think, the more vulnerable I feel, the more ridiculous I look, the funnier I'll be the more relaxed and I never think about like laugh lines or stuff like that. Well no, because you're in the moment. You you might think about afterwards, but I I just, like you're laughing. I never see somebody that's laughing or having a great time going, man, they're wrinkly yeah, you're.
Speaker 1:Their laugh lines are so deep. Yeah, what's going on with those smile lines when you're out of?
Speaker 3:breath because someone's made you laugh so hard. And the thing, too, that I love about when you see stand-up, because I think this is all very adjacent I can't not talk about it since I'm with the two of you.
Speaker 3:There's something about when the comedian's up there and they just take a moment of pause to look out at the audience and it feels so charged, Like there's a charge to that and vulnerability to that. That is, it's intimate. There's something very intimate about comedy that you can't escape and some people talk about intimate subjects. You know there's obviously a lot of people have really made that their bread and butter and that's always pretty.
Speaker 2:You can't escape somebody's eyeline.
Speaker 3:Like when you're in the club.
Speaker 2:You see what the expressions on somebody's face are, from whatever distance they're at, so, like there's no escaping, everyone's looking directly at that person.
Speaker 3:And I'm such a ding, it Like I'm this guy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, like please please make me laugh. I came for it.
Speaker 3:I'm here and any time I see people in the audience are like this, I just think why did?
Speaker 1:you come. You know what?
Speaker 2:Speaking of making a face like that, I seriously was looking up over here. Tell me no, no, Wait why is this particle?
Speaker 1:Oh, hit, done at the very top. Ooh, pursing lips. What am I doing?
Speaker 3:The I wanna fuck the world face. Is that what that is? The duck lips Just hit the done. My husband and I call that the. I want to fuck the world. What's that? When you see people on the red carpet, do this.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, and they scan and they pout.
Speaker 3:That's hilarious.
Speaker 1:It's probably a good exercise for those muscles around your mouth, though, if you think about it.
Speaker 2:Watch it, mike, magic Mike.
Speaker 1:Magic Mike. So, yes, what were you saying about?
Speaker 2:Well, I was just going to say like, oh, pursing your lips, pursing your lips or having that look where you're kind of scowling, I feel like those lines stick with you so much faster and deeper.
Speaker 1:You get like little micro spasms and little, and then it starts to stick down into your fascia, and so the repeat, the repetitive, what did you call me?
Speaker 2:Yeah, fascia. Yeah, fascia, yeah we're not gonna talk politics today, but yeah, oh God, don't get me going, but we can quote Big Lebowski, you fascist.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, oh, brilliant. Throw a coffee cup at your head. Have you ever?
Speaker 3:been to Lebowski Fest.
Speaker 1:Have you guys done that here?
Speaker 3:You must.
Speaker 1:It's so fun, I want to do it I mean I'm upset.
Speaker 3:That movie is like fucking.
Speaker 2:Julianne Moore yeah, the best, so good.
Speaker 3:Everybody and it's so funny because we haven't. We've done Raising Arizona with our kid.
Speaker 1:We were like you want to see comedy.
Speaker 3:But we have not done that because I just there's a little too much in there yeah. We recon Bridesmaids recently because we were like is he ready?
Speaker 1:and then we were like uh, not yet the opening scene. She's having sex with him.
Speaker 3:It's so good. I want him so badly to see the diarrhea scene.
Speaker 1:I can't wait, buy me a coke who said diarrhea to this day?
Speaker 2:Maya Rudolph's, I said that in unison, I know, buy me a Coke. Yeah, do you say. Who said diarrhea?
Speaker 3:Just the to this day, maya Rudolph's slow crawl to street level in that oh man, that's just my favorite.
Speaker 1:She just, it's almost like she's deflating, like the Wicked Witch of the East or the North or whatever it is.
Speaker 2:Yes, I think it's the it's. Probably is it the West, the wicked witch of the northwest. That's what it was.
Speaker 1:Alright, let's get back to this.
Speaker 2:Nikki, let's get back to the subject.
Speaker 1:So smile lines are obviously going to add warmth to your face and people are going to pick up on that. Also. Smiling increases the endorphins in your brain, even if it's fake. Really, yeah, and fake laughing does as well. I'm really high right now, so the eye part is maybe confusing your brain a little bit, because you have like a scared eye, but with a fast mouth, scared eye.
Speaker 2:I love that. I'm really happy. Now Is that when you say stuff like you're like instead of you know, like when you bend over, just kind of go.
Speaker 1:Yes, like, almost, like you can't tell your. If you tell your body that you're like struggling, it's listening to you.
Speaker 3:Oh, 100%, like I will say, because I've done a lot of. I've done a lot of emotional shit on camera and it is very true that your nervous system doesn't know. It's interesting I had to do a self-tape when I was sick, oh man, and I was on Mucinex and the scene, like the big button on the scene is the person cries and you don't know if it's legitimate or if it's calculated, but you have to cry on cue, after being very swingy in a different direction, and if you're on decongestion, your body will not make tears it's like oh my god, you're so dry.
Speaker 2:I didn't even think about that.
Speaker 3:You're so dried out it's. It's the weirdest because you're like I'm so dropped into this but I cannot produce tears I can make, I can drool, and then you stop and you're just like pounding water, because you have to do that before crying scenes. But it is interesting, your nervous system is a wreck after doing that shit because it's listening, you must when you know you've killed it. You must be so high when you get off stage.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah.
Speaker 2:For sure. Yeah, it definitely is a good feeling to it. For sure I can tell when I have a good set and I like it is that when I got off stage, whoever's on stage, I'll laugh at whatever joke they say, even if it's terrible.
Speaker 1:Yes, that's true. Yeah, because you're still like in it.
Speaker 2:I'm still in it, yeah not that terrible, but it's just the off worst jokes you've ever heard. But, yeah, there's definitely a high to it, for sure. Yes, yes, yes good.
Speaker 1:Well, so there is a thing called resting face. I know we've probably talked about resting bitch face, but, um, just anything that you're doing that's at rest is going to cause micro little. You know lines and like, if you're constantly thinking, you've got some serious thinking. Well, I think this is. I forget what the, the crop, the I've made so many bad decisions.
Speaker 2:I can't believe that I've thought like any of this stuff. This is like the worst.
Speaker 3:Well, genetics too. Right, like I see in my face. I'm seeing stuff that is so genetically predisposed, and it's very interesting too, because even in our kid I see in his face certain expressions and things and I'm like DNA don't lie.
Speaker 1:No, oh my God. That's just your muscles are making it's a memory that goes in from your cell somehow into theirs. It's so crazy. Muscle memory is no joke.
Speaker 3:No, which is why?
Speaker 1:we're talking about this because you develop a muscle memory is no joke now. Which is why we're talking about this? Because you developa muscle memory from doing something over and over and over again, and eventually it's going to show up somewhere yeah, in a good way or a bad way I think it's only bad if you're critical about it, you know.
Speaker 3:I mean it's like you can really like I, I love, I love seeing certain faces with the life experience. That's really to me and it is interesting too, aging and aging on camera. I can see life experience because you know, we've all been through shit by the time you're at midlife Everybody, I don't care how good you've had it. You've been through, you hope you have. I mean God, I mean my biggest concern for my child is that he's, you know, apathetic and he's not that's not his innate instinct.
Speaker 3:but it's like as a parent now it's like there's so many minefields for that, for for this generation to fall into and we're very activated about trying to prevent that. But I think that again ties into if you express boldly like I embarrass him so hard. He hates going to concerts with me, but I think he secretly loves it because I turn into a 15-year-old again. God help you if it's Jack White or something like that, where I know the lyrics and I can just rage on um, I embarrass him so hard yeah for sure.
Speaker 3:But it's also he is seeing me play full out with whatever I'm, and again it goes back to like the stand-up of musicians. There's something about the communal experience. Why am I yelling? I don't know what's happening. You're getting into it. You're passionate about it. Well, yeah, if I care about something, god help you. Oh, yeah, I think you only think you're yelling.
Speaker 2:We don't think you're yelling. No, turn the mic down.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I'm sure he's got it. He's got you. It's no, you're not no.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, it is a good place for it.
Speaker 3:I have balls behind me. You just feel so different, I know, and they look Scratchy. You can make them Scratchy balls.
Speaker 1:Scratchy balls.
Speaker 3:That one does not turn colors. Yeah, you know, it was also you know it was very interesting, apropos of nothing, because Will Farrell is also top of the pops for my kid appropriate. But we turned on an interview with colbert. This is why. This is why he loves comedy when I was pregnant with him, because my husband's last name is bear and I took his last name like a good southern girl would golly gee.
Speaker 1:And I'm sorry, when I was pregnant flashing get the remote over there okay, it's like we're at a disco.
Speaker 2:It's, it's, it's murder on the dance floor.
Speaker 1:right now it's happening.
Speaker 3:I'm sorry to distract from what you were saying. People always ask pregnant women where are you? Going to name your kid and we used to tell people Stephen Cole, that was the name, and they either got it or they didn't. But if they got it, I was like you're my people.
Speaker 1:I love that.
Speaker 3:So Pharrell was on and he was telling the story of how he became a like, how he used to just go and like, show up like a janitor in his friend's class at college. Oh my God, look it up. I'm not going to say anything else, but watching my kid watch that, watch this person, that always makes him laugh. It was too real. He needed him to be in a scenario and not talk about his process, which I thought, okay, maybe maybe you're not gonna be.
Speaker 1:I see what you're saying, but I wonder I I really do wonder.
Speaker 3:But watching expressions is all he knows.
Speaker 1:Like if I came home and was like dinner time I can'top a little bit great film. That was one of my favorites. You probably already remember that I don't know of course I do one of my top one movies.
Speaker 3:Well, I did not remember that, but that's excellent.
Speaker 1:Well done you it's a I mean it's a great movie. It is. It holds up in a safe. It holds up in a safe, are they?
Speaker 3:I think they are remaking it, I think they are probably watching it once.
Speaker 2:Yeah again with.
Speaker 1:Peter Weller's not in it. I don't want to see it and if, and also the I forget the name of the other actor that the female with the she cuts. She has her short hair. She's like Murphy. I'm a mess at the very end. I remember I can kill that whole movie.
Speaker 2:She was, um, she was, but the. All the actors came back when they did, like the, the making of robocop. Oh, that's right, you should watch that.
Speaker 1:Yes, I didn't know it's a documentary. It's really good watch it like a three-parter, I think.
Speaker 3:Because you were a valley girl, I'm gonna bring this up. One of the golden things before we move that happened was they had the 40th anniversary of valley girl at the new Beverly and Martha Coolidge and everybody but Nick was there. Oh my God, everybody, the writer, the musician, I mean it was incredible. And they did a panel afterwards.
Speaker 1:It was one of the best days of my life. When was this.
Speaker 3:This was 40th anniversary, so this would have been a year and a half ago.
Speaker 1:Well, if it comes out again and you happen to be in town, so this would have been a year and a half ago. Well, if it comes out again and you happen to be in town, please, I will go with you.
Speaker 3:Oh, I will, totally that's my other favorite movie.
Speaker 2:Well, everybody knows the 43rd anniversary is the big one. The 43rd anniversary when they do the 43rd anniversary party, the 43rd anniversary, number seven.
Speaker 3:Oh, the big four, three, we're back to seven. Seven nipples. There see, it always comes around certain like uh, nipples, nipples. Is that why you wear that?
Speaker 2:shirt. Yes, your third eye or your third nipple, you just never know either both. They're both shock ring yes, yes, anyways, back to um terrible no, no, no, no, you're gonna be, your perfect guess, as long as I can make a pun that only I feel confident in, that's fine. I'm here for it, I'm good.
Speaker 1:All right, so, um, now how to create, okay. So one thing I wanted to mention too is that, with your son and with any kids, if you don't understand, most kids don't understand at first what the comedy is about. They're watching the expression, so that's kind of the only way they know Interesting, what parts are funny, what parts aren't funny. Interesting, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2:That's true, as a baby, you know like the, you know you like the weird stuff that's not normally there.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Then that's a kid starts laughing.
Speaker 1:Because I remember laughing at stuff that I had no idea why it was funny, and then later watching it and then, oh, now I see why it's funny.
Speaker 3:Interesting, and well it, If you think about so many of the power ballads from our youth they were so sexual and like inappropriate and deep. And I was like let me sing Peter Cetera to the top of my lungs I'm in love, you know, like in third grade dedicating songs. But it's funny because you don't know what you're fucking talking about.
Speaker 2:No, you don't know.
Speaker 3:I hope you don't, or even like Led Zeppelin, like when I think about oh all the like the double entendres, oh my God, I'll be your backdoor man. Give me a break, robert Plant.
Speaker 1:Where's my lemon? Yeah, until the juice runs down someone's leg.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and my little drummer, son loves Led Zeppelin.
Speaker 1:I can't wait till.
Speaker 3:He's like mom, that's got so much res or whatever the fuck, he's talking I can't. I've become the mother who knows nothing, and I'm okay with it. I don't need to pick up on this shit.
Speaker 1:Tell him to call me if he wants to talk about Jimmy Page, because that's my favorite guitar player of all time.
Speaker 3:It might get loud. Please tell me you've seen it.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. So good, it's amazing so good, I just love him.
Speaker 3:Jack White, and is it Edge or the Edge? I never get it right from you two.
Speaker 1:Is it the Edge?
Speaker 2:Is it Edge? Maybe it's.
Speaker 3:The.
Speaker 2:Edge. It's the quarter Edge. Yeah, it's pretty sharp either way.
Speaker 3:Either way, they're both dying you see them turn into five-year-olds watching him play. And it's so good Again expressions.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:It's so sweet. Oh, jimmy Page is the best, yeah, and he's still so good, so good Anyway. Anyway, that has nothing to do with skincare, except he looks great for his age he does.
Speaker 1:Who knows what kind of devil worshiper he's going to be, though Worshipping Alice. They all have the faces that's true.
Speaker 3:Oh yeah, they got that face. Yeah, robert Plants Dessert he's got it.
Speaker 1:Here's what I wanted to talk about, too, because we don't have too much time left.
Speaker 3:Oh, don't let me go.
Speaker 1:No, no, no, you could do. First of all, let me just get through this Exercising, doing certain exercises for the face. You can. Kind of More massage, I think helpful to like, rub out some of the little kinks that you might have in your face, I know, I know I'm not trying to sell you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the castor oil in the midwest, oh, castor oil is amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it's very viscous. Yes, I love that word um, but I wanted to ask you this, and then um see what you can tell me about what you think. What are the actors that you feel like are like the most? They have like the most expression roadmaps on their faces that we love so much? Judy dench.
Speaker 3:Oh, what a face man.
Speaker 1:What let's see oh yeah, oh yeah, absolutely god, what a face and it just to have a lived in face.
Speaker 3:that can, on a dime, turn into awestruck childlike wonder when you look at that face. Celia Weston, who's that?
Speaker 1:She was on Mel's Diner but she's also currently oh my God, she's so good, she's amazing.
Speaker 3:I've seen her on set. She's great Speaking of Will Ferrell and that new. I think I just watched it. Yes, fortune Feim, she's so good, she's amazing. I've seen her on set. She's great Speaking of Will Ferrell and that new-. I think I just watched it. Yes, fortune Feimster's in it. Lori, lori, she's brilliant. She's a Southern comedian. She was in Roseanne.
Speaker 1:Is her last name? Star Lori Metcalf.
Speaker 3:No, no, she's a genius. Oh okay, Is it, lori? She's a great stand-up. Who's Southern? I love her. I can't picture her, but it's a really fun. I loved the movie.
Speaker 1:I loved it too. I just don't remember everybody that was in it, but Celia Weston is Reese Witherspoon's mother and she's that's a face that just keeps just getting better.
Speaker 3:It's also truthful, right, Like these lived in faces.
Speaker 1:That's a really good point. It's truthful.
Speaker 3:It's right, like these, lived in faces. That's a really good point. It's truthful. It's truthful. You can't escape. You know, when you see people that have, for whatever their reasons are, succumb to normative thinking about what? The aesthetic should be to have long-standing career. And look, you know, when I started in this business, you did not work when you were my age. I just so I'm on playing an esthetician on Chicago.
Speaker 1:Fire.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, I'm so excited, don't let don't let that drop that little dot. Cause I thought of you the minute. I was like esthetician.
Speaker 1:I've done the homework.
Speaker 3:Get a good manicure, cause my hands will be on screen, but will I ever slap? Slap a face? I know how to do it anyway, yeah but the whole thing that's so funny. Like dermot is my husband and we have sexy scenes and we're like when we're almost 50 year old and 60 year olds getting it on network television like this is amazing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, it's.
Speaker 3:Everybody looks so much better, though I think but it's because, and also you know, we're our age and we're getting down, we don't have children on the show. It's like people like to fuck as long as they like to fuck how wonderful.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we need to identify that your life doesn't end when you're in your 20s. Oh my god, that didn't happen. No, and now I mean honestly, I think that the graceful aging, that that's sort of problematic to me. It's like, why does it have to be grace? Why can't that just be? You know, I like that, yeah, why do you have to label it? I'm just awestruck because she's kind of my North Star anyway. But Julianne Moore, to me, is the epitome of stunning aging. She has perfect skin. Jodie Foster, jodie Foster I mean all of them I love.
Speaker 1:Jodie Foster's face. She looks like she has lived her life and doesn't give a crap about what anybody else.
Speaker 3:So hot, so hot, so emotive. That's the thing too. It's like I think, as a human being apropos not of the industry we're in and if you're god, can you imagine like a super botox comedian, like that would be so boring you'd have to bring it up on your set.
Speaker 1:I feel you'd have to bring it up on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you'd have to bring it up on stage and you can't just be like, well, it'll calm down soon. You know whatever like you could, because it's right. Yeah, you could, it's right up. I mean, it's right up there.
Speaker 1:But when I see an actor that's had too much plastic surgery for my taste for my it just feels dishonest, unless it's part of the character.
Speaker 3:Well, and it is sometimes part of the character and it's like but then you gotta like how did k O'Hara do that? How did she do?
Speaker 1:that I feel like she's got tape or something.
Speaker 3:I mean, listen, I've been on. I remember having my face taped because I had to play a younger version of myself.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God.
Speaker 3:And I remember the makeup artist, having worked on certain actresses who were heroines of mine and just telling me like they always wear the tape.
Speaker 1:And they're in their 70s and still wearing the tape and just telling me like they always wear the tape and they're in their 70s and still wearing the tape and they look amazing and I love that it's not permanent.
Speaker 3:I'll give you another great face, and she's been a co-star of mine and I really would love to see her win the Academy Award as Isabella Rossellini.
Speaker 1:That face is you worked with her.
Speaker 3:I did on Shut Eye. Oh my God. I mean Hero wears the cape. She is a divine creature.
Speaker 1:I just got goosebumps. Yeah, she's so fantastic.
Speaker 3:I love her, but like talk about not taking the bait, like being known as one of the most beautiful human beings walking the planet, making a career out of your beauty, she's an artist.
Speaker 3:Like she's a hardcore artist but, like you, can't get away from how beautiful she is and she, to me, is more beautiful. She's just lit from within anyway, but that fucking face and it's aged and she has, I mean it, empowered me to be with her. Because, I'll tell you, it is hard when you're with people and you're just like and I don't judge anybody, it's your instrument, it's your body.
Speaker 2:Never judge anybody in front of them. That's the number one rule.
Speaker 3:Should we start going hard our last few minutes?
Speaker 1:Do you want to?
Speaker 3:go hard on Bing Rhames again. He'll kick your ass.
Speaker 2:He will. I don't want to.
Speaker 1:Back to what you're saying, though, with isabelle rossalini. I think I heard a quote of her saying like her, but her, her, her favorites, like beauty secret was smiling oh believe it because, you look, you just look better when you're smiling everything's lifted yeah, you know what I mean.
Speaker 3:Sometimes you can't not smile like I I sometimes I smile so hard, sometimes I I'm like calm down.
Speaker 1:I've seen pictures of me where.
Speaker 3:I'm like that's actually a disaster.
Speaker 1:But you know what?
Speaker 3:It came from a place of love.
Speaker 1:That's right. What do you think about this and how they got these faces? Okay, so for warm and kind people, I came with Tom Hanks, meryl Streep, helen Mirren, but intense and unsettling. Okay. Willem Dafoe, steve Buscemi, christopher Walken, javier Bardem. What's the Jesus Trejo? Danny Trejo?
Speaker 2:Danny Trejo. Yeah, why did I say Jesus? Jesus Trejo is a very funny comedian that we know.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's, right, Danny Trejo owns.
Speaker 3:Donuts the Donuts. Yes, wasn't he actually imprisoned in real life?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think so I think so, yeah, baller. Yeah, he made Donuts in prison.
Speaker 3:Best Donuts. That is really unkind. You weren't there. You don't know what happened. Soap, I used to be the Donut In prison, in prison. Oh God, we're terrible. So you brought that up, but tell me more. What's the idea there?
Speaker 1:I just was wondering like what? What? What are you saying? Time, okay, yeah, like no, it's too fun, I know, I know.
Speaker 3:Okay.
Speaker 1:Well, I, I it. Just it begs me to wonder what has caused those faces in their life. It's not the acting, it's probably something that's gone on in their life where they've made repeated expressions but it's also what makes them beautiful absolutely.
Speaker 3:That's why they're on stage too, and man, he is gorgeous really.
Speaker 1:I mean, he's gorgeous, he's a specimen, yes yeah, but that's part of it.
Speaker 3:It's like I think that's comfort levels too and it all sort of dovetails in to this right. Like this part of your instrument. If you are comfortable with that, it's very hard for other people to be critical of it right I don't like when I'm, when I get scally, and it's funny sometimes.
Speaker 3:I look at my. I have kind of a funky face sometimes, but my face can hold a lot of makeup so it can change the way it looks, which I think is good. Yeah, I mean, it's a positive for what I do, but it changes me and I think in turn and in kind, so does expressing wow. I had no idea when you gave me the subject that that's what it would turn into.
Speaker 1:I wish we had four hours. Honestly, there's so much Because we haven't seen each other, sorry.
Speaker 2:We do have four hours.
Speaker 1:We just don't have it here, right? Well, I appreciate it, you guys.
Speaker 3:I'm very honored to be on this. Thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2:Well, let's do a part two, because there's more to talk about. Yeah, absolutely We'll work that out time zone wise. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:We will add seven nipples always yes.
Speaker 1:I like that. Well, how many do we have? We have between us At least six. Yeah, at least six.
Speaker 2:I have two that I know of. Do we?
Speaker 3:consider our bottle tops no, seven nipples, sure.
Speaker 1:Why not eight? Eight, yeah, I don't have a bottle top.
Speaker 2:So all right, well, this is going to be out. Oh, um, oh. Where can people find you on socials?
Speaker 3:not like anybody doesn't know about your tax return information?
Speaker 2:of course they don't.
Speaker 3:I mean, you know, listen, I'm. I walk around like a normal person. I just happen to occasionally pop up on people's screens and that's good I do instagram. I'm really bad at social media. I wish I was better. I do instagram. I'm currently on blue sky, although I'm so terrible I never post shit, but instagram's probably where I am the most that's where I see you the most, yeah yeah, it's easiest and I like I like seeing fun things.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and there are some fun things on there, so you are okay. Yeah, some not so fun things, is it? The Katie Strickland, I think, I think it might be yeah, God.
Speaker 2:I don't even know. I love what you're asking.
Speaker 1:It's the funniest, but the way you spell your name is K-A, capital, d-e-e. Uh-huh, in case anybody's looking for a stage.
Speaker 3:Thanks, mom, it wasn't a stage name that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, you got the D on there. Yes, ma'am, Speaking of D um Sandra.
Speaker 2:I, uh, that's my name. Yes, All right, so this is going to be a phallic Mike.
Speaker 3:Yeah, not a magic.
Speaker 2:Mike From the seventies. Yes, I'll go watch boogie nights.
Speaker 1:All right, I'll stop talking, sorry, uh, wednesday at 3 am, that's fast.
Speaker 3:Yeah, hey you know what I'm on? My esthetician will be on Chicago Fire that night, oh my God. So tune in to Chicago Fire on what channel is it?
Speaker 1:NBC, nbc, oh my God, nbc. I don't even know the time slot. They'll find it. We have, we all have resources.
Speaker 3:I mean, maybe I don't know, oh well, I bet I'll be expressing real hard oh yeah, All right.
Speaker 1:I can't even get into that All right. Thank you so much for being here. You are the best, and you guys, we'll see you next week same time on Wednesday.
Speaker 2:And thank you so much. That was awesome I love BOMU Yay.
