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What to Do When You Look Dead: Rapid Eye Bag Remedies
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Are you tired of waking up with dark circles? Eye bags and puffiness can be more than just a skincare nuisance; they can affect how you feel each day. Join us as we explore effective, rapid solutions to these common concerns in this engaging episode. With humor and candid discussions, we delve into the importance of addressing not only the symptoms but also the underlying causes of eye puffiness.
In this episode, we cover a range of topics, including cold therapy techniques using everyday items such as ice rollers and spoons, allowing you to incorporate soothing methods into your routine. Our hosts share their favorite makeup tricks, highlighting how to effectively conceal dark circles with peach-toned correctors. We also dive into the role that hydration, salt intake, and nutrition play in reducing eye bags, reminding listeners that skincare doesn't just happen on the surface.. Subscribe for weekly episodes and join our community as we navigate skincare with humor and heart!
Opening Anecdotes and Introductions
Speaker 1You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex, drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to Sex, drugs and Skincare. I am the host, nikki Davis Jr, licensed comedian, stand-up esthetician doing skincare for 25 years bringing the skincare and the comedy. I'm not bringing comedy tips, just skincare tips.
Speaker 2Skin tip cares yeah, skin tips, yeah, skin tips. We have a briefcase full of random pieces of skin tips from people and now we're going to apply lotion to them and see if we can rejuvenate them.
Speaker 1I wanted to make a joke about a moil, but I couldn't come up with anything fast enough. Rub some moil on it, I don't know. Isn't that the guy who cuts the thing off the penis?
Speaker 2Yeah, the guy that yeah.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, like a high moilage, high moilage.
Speaker 1A joke isn't getting high, moilage.
Speaker 2Well, I'm saying the guy that's been doing it for a long, long time.
Speaker 1Oh right.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's a high moilage moil.
Speaker 1How are you feeling?
Speaker 2I feel good Now that you mentioned it. I don't know Now if I really really get into it do I feel good what's? That compared to, and what's the point of any question?
Speaker 1I feel great, I'm going to ask you some questions actually and then you're going to maybe ask me some back, and the reason why I'm working with you specifically and only today is because are we able to zoom in on his eyes?
Speaker 2No, yes, I mean, do we have the technology?
Speaker 1Do we have the technology?
Speaker 2I don't know that's okay. Yeah.
Speaker 1You look like you've. Okay. Have you had some salt this weekend?
Speaker 2I've had some salt. This weekend I've had some salt. I I've had some salt. I've had a lot of water, okay, but maybe more salt.
Speaker 1Okay, well, today's topic is under-eye SOS rapid fixes for when you need to look alive.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Right, so these are quick fixes All right. Nice, okay so.
Speaker 2I look dead right now. No, you look a little sleepy. I look sleepy A little bit Well, yeah Well, I mean right now. No, you look a little sleepy, I look sleepy a little bit well, yeah well, I mean I did smoke a little that's true weed, but you didn't smoke it under your eyes.
Speaker 1No, I didn't. Yeah, that only covers the from the from the bottom oh, you're right, you're right, yeah, okay, so tell me sorry, I had hair in my mouth. I gave myself a haircut, by the way. Did you do you like it? I did like it. Alex says yes, thank you yeah katie made mention she's did. Were you listening?
Speaker 2she's like oh, I love how sometimes you rock the ponytail and sometimes you don't oh, yeah, yeah yeah, I like it, I like yeah, your hair grows really fast and then you cut it off and then, like a day later, it's growing back again. I give it to locks for lust, I they make merkins out of it nice, that's great because great you like their locks for the most. Because they make pubic wigs.
Speaker 1I like that you like it so much, it made me laugh at my own joke, and sweat a little bit too.
Speaker 2Yeah, the other day I delivered something to somebody. I delivered a package to somebody. His name was A and last name was Melican. A Melican, yes, I just said I'm a Melican. I kept a malican.
Speaker 1yes I just think I'm a malican.
Speaker 2I kept saying that all day long to yourself yeah, I'm a malican, I love it. Yeah, well, you know, sometimes you gotta make yourself laugh. So, speaking of yeah, um, what can I do about these uh carry-ons that I have under my eyes?
Speaker 1you do have a like it seems to be kind of a chronic issue with you. I noticed that with you, sugar and salt tend to be your enemies, and also lack of sleep. Honestly, sonar, you haven't been getting enough sleep.
Speaker 2I haven't been sleeping, uh, that much lately and um a couple of decades now, but it's getting worse. Well, these fixes are quick, um, and it's, it's, yeah, it's getting worse.
Speaker 1Well, these fixes are quick and it's yeah, it's not all right. Well, it's not something like sleeping every night I'm not going to tell you. I mean, obviously, if you're sleeping and you don't have allergies and you're not eating a shit ton of sugar and all the other things that cause eye bags.
Speaker 2I'm eating a sugar ton of shit which is just it's not. It's good for my gut. I think it's good for your gut, yeah, but the thing is that like I don't sleep that as well, or whatever you know. But kind of having this stuff, like because I wake up sometimes and it's almost like the allergies, I think, also add to it Because I do, my nose will sniff, my nose will sniffle, my nose will sniffle and then I'll have to sniff it, to re-sniffle it yeah, you know um these are all normal things, but then what if you have like an audition that day, like you suddenly get called in for something or and then like your eyes are puffed out?
Speaker 2yeah, I mean I don't know what to do. What should I do at that point?
Speaker 1well, we'll talk about that. That's why we're here today. A second, are you?
Speaker 2just saying that. So I won't leave Because you're not going to get up, right now and get out of here. But you intrigued me by saying hold on if you sit around for a second.
Speaker 1Yeah, keep the car running, though I'll be done in a few.
Speaker 2Yeah, well, the car's always running.
Speaker 1Okay, the car's just always going All right.
Speaker 2So I think that was a fun anecdotal opening I think that was good nice, I like that anecdotals yeah, anecdotals.
Speaker 1All right, I'm talking kind of fast, maybe I should slow it down a little bit, but I just feel like, with, with, you, you read that differently.
Speaker 2I'm talking kind of fast, I think you.
Speaker 1Just you read that a little too fast I have notes now, okay, I bring notes, uh, and I read them, so occasionally, yeah, I copy and paste them from somewhere and then I look over.
Speaker 2But I don't understand why you're putting small talk in there. You're also putting like I'll bring notes, occasionally I'll bring them in. It's like really weird that you're scripting the entire thing.
Speaker 1I want to make time for small talk.
Speaker 2That's a good name for a podcast.
Speaker 1I want to make time. Oh my God, that is good for a podcast. I want to make time, oh my god. Time for small talk.
Speaker 2Make time for small, time for small talk, yeah all right, let's trademark it and then never do anything with it. It's perfect.
Speaker 1It sounds like a cocaine somebody else, yes uh, I want to start so many businesses the next time I do cocaine, which will be never, but cocaine probably, would probably give you some, some good some good eye bags.
Speaker 2Eye bags right now. You wouldn't want to put cocaine on them because that would numb them, right?
Speaker 1That would numb them. But you know what, maybe, maybe I'm not going to rule it out.
Speaker 2I think that you could have just said anything there and been like, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1Cocaine Should I not put? No well, let's try it.
Speaker 2I mean put the cocaine a little bit.
Speaker 1Yeah Well, the reason why I said that is because there there's things with caffeine in them and so, okay, it is a stimulant and so I think it helps to get things moving. But, um, let's first address which we kind of already did uh, why we get under eye circles and the bags underneath? So, um, there's genetics, obviously. So yours I don't know if yours is genetic, it might be my dad had eye bags.
Speaker 2Okay then it's probably genetic, maybe older in life, but yeah, I think he had.
Speaker 1Yeah I think it's common for italian men to have a little bit of eye baggage.
Speaker 2Remember adriano's episode oh, yeah, about the dark circles, yeah, and he sleeps and works out and eats. Well, but he sleeps out and works, works in. He sleeps out and works in yeah, he's a guy.
Speaker 1So the alcohol obviously Not sleeping. We said Just natural aging. The skin under your skin is very thin.
Speaker 2The skin under your skin.
Speaker 1Did I say that? Yeah, the skin under your eyes, wow, that's very telling the skin under your skin.
Speaker 2It was also another nickname. That was another name for the podcast we threw around.
Speaker 1The skin under the skin. The name with that was another name for the podcast. We threw around the skin under your skin. It goes. This goes back to moils. I was gonna say moils. Did we say moils? That's what it's for. Okay, god, we're talking so fast. People would think we were doing. Are we talking fast, alex? Do you think we're talking fast? Yeah, he says he's a million miles a minute, so right but we're keeping up with your speed I don't think you're talking fast.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, good energy, good energy okay um.
Speaker 1So as we get older, the thin skins we lose the subcutaneous fat layer under the skin and also the dermis gets thinner so I like, I can see, like my cheekbones yeah more, and more okay yeah, uh, because you lose that sub. You lose it all over your body, the subcutaneous fat layer, but it shows up a lot in your face, especially under the eyes, and so then you're able to see more of the blood vessels, which is causing the darkness underneath your skin.
Speaker 2Right, so that's just a natural part of aging for some people and there's no way to lighten those. The color of those blood vessels. Is there Not the blood vessels? Can I blood vessels? Is there not the blood vessels? And different color blood therapy?
Speaker 1yeah, let's just get colored blood yeah, I mean that'd be kind of cool. That makes sense, yeah, um, but there are serums like vitamin k, serums that people claim to use to lighten up the circles, sometimes vitamin c. I think we'll get around to that, but, um, yeah, so, but chances are you, you got it from your parents, yeah, you know yeah so what can we do? So let's say you wake up in the in the morning, or for you the mid-afternoon. Yeah, it's still morning. Yeah, it's still. It's. For you it's morning.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's whatever you make it to be yeah, which, by the way, when you sleep too long, I notice that I get really bad dark circles under my eyes.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah also before I get a migraine.
Speaker 1When I sleep too long, you get bad yeah, yeah, because I'm pacing outside the bedroom waiting for you to wake up. Oh man, I'm sorry. No, that's okay we also.
Speaker 2We should mention the toilet is in the bed, is in the bedroom as well.
Speaker 1That's why she has to pace and I'm sleeping. She can't shit and you keep the door locked.
Speaker 2Keep the door locked. She can't poop in there oh, my goodness.
Speaker 1Okay. So one of the first things you can do is cold therapy, and there's a couple of different ways I mean probably a few different ways that you can do that. Um, we had a podcast with tanya estrada and we did the ice rollers that's right.
Speaker 2That's like the bay city rollers. It's like a dance group, except for they're on ice they're on ice, yeah basically rollers, weren't they on skates? I don't know, they just were a band I have no idea maybe they were just rollers I think maybe there was like that group of people that were dancing huh, never mind, okay, that's a good improv. By the way, yeah, huh, that's my favorite one so far. I know I like it wow, um.
Speaker 1So what happens when you put the cold on your eyes? Is it constricts the blood vessels okay and it brings down the puffiness. Um, just like you would do pretty much for any kind of swelling that you have in your body, you want to shrink the blood vessels down and the inflammation there's going to be inflammation around your eyes.
Speaker 2Does it make a difference what kind of, what size spoon I use?
Speaker 1well, we didn't say spoons yet, but oh my. God, I know you were reading my notes ahead of me.
Speaker 2Well. I kind of knew where you were going with this.
Speaker 1If you're just listening and not watching. You heard it already Does it make a difference with the size of the spoon. You know what they say it's not the size of the spoon, it's the Never say. It's not the size of the spoon, it's the Never mind.
Speaker 2It's ice cream.
Speaker 1It's the size of the ice cream, it's the motion of the lotion under your eyes.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, that's true.
The Importance of Eye Care and Quick Fixes
Speaker 1So the spoons? That's another good improv, that's true. Yeah, yeah, that's true. And throw in a good point, oh yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1It's a good point. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's a good one. As far as the size of the spoon, I'm I don't know maybe no bigger than a teaspoon, or maybe like a smallish tablespoon.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1You don't want to go ladle.
Speaker 2No, you can't do that you have to have two of them.
Speaker 1Ladles in your eyes.
Speaker 2I mean you cover that's a lot of surface area holes in your eyes. I mean you cover that's a lot of surface area. Yeah, that's true actually. So you get your eyebrows in there as well.
Speaker 1Yeah, your cheeks, cheeks, okay but generally, people probably use teaspoons that they keep in the fridge or in their freezer. Be careful, though, when you have the ice rollers if you keep your jade rollers in the freezer. Well, jade rollers not so much, but anything that's metal um that you're putting into the freezer. When you put it on your skin, you got to make sure that it it's got enough condensation on the outside, or you've got something on your skin so it doesn't stick oh, right, because you could yeah, like the um, like the scene in uh, a christmas story oh, when he's put, he's got that spoon down his throat no, when he's got his tongue against the pole, oh that's.
Speaker 2That's what I said.
Speaker 1That is what you said.
Speaker 2Yeah, I remember that that was like a scene, that was such a scene.
Speaker 1God. So let's see Caffeine infused products are another one. So use things that have caffeine. They help to reduce the puffiness by also constricting blood vessels. I didn't know that Well. That's why it helps. Caffeine helps with headaches as well.
Speaker 2Oh, okay.
Speaker 1So it constricts the blood vessels, I guess. So maybe you're not feeling the throbbing so much in your head. It always confused me, though, because I thought if you open the blood vessels the blood would go through more freely. But maybe you just have like a swelling in your head.
Speaker 2Maybe that's what it is, just to bring down any kind of inflammation, maybe. Yeah, um, yeah, I don't know. I I'm trying to think of like I've also had too much caffeine. I had a headache, so yeah, it's excellent. Yeah, if you go too far with it, yeah it will also give you a headache. Yeah, but um if you get migraines, injecting it directly into my veins too which?
Speaker 1the caffeine, the Caffeine, the caffeine, yeah.
Speaker 2You don't do that, he's almost not kidding, though.
Speaker 1He drives around with something probably bigger than this, filled with coffee extract. You put a little bit of water in there. Yeah, it's a concentration.
Speaker 2And I, just you know, I microdose coffee all day long, cold brew, just a little bit here and there we got to get you some crest white strips to put on between the coffee sippings we do have to get me some of those they don't look bad, but like eventually, when you sip something like it's, it erodes your teeth.
Speaker 1But that's another that's another skincare.
Speaker 2that's another skincare, I think thing the eroding of your teeth.
Speaker 1Yeah, the teeth that are in your skin.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1So there's, like you know, there's expensive creams. Is there expensive creams? You know it's funny, there are expensive creams. Not that we're sponsored by any of these companies. But there's something from Peter Thomas Roth. He does a lot of really good serums and it's called 24-at Hydra Gel Eye Patches.
Speaker 2And it's like 75 bucks and what is that supposed to?
Speaker 1do. The hydrogel is very cooling. I'm assuming that the gold that they put in there maybe some gold flakes, I don't really know. But I've heard of people doing like gold facials, like where they put gold like a gold mask on your skin.
Speaker 2What is that supposed to do? Is that supposed to like, tone down any kind of redness?
Speaker 1I don't know actually, Because I've never done it. It's not kind of the skincare that I normally would do. Yeah, this seems like a very high-end thing.
Speaker 2What else can we do with this gold? I don't know, I have so much of it. Put it on a face mask.
Speaker 1I heard Steve Martin did those.
Speaker 2Really.
Speaker 1Mm-hmm, he's very much into his skin. I would love to have him on the podcast, steve Martin.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know. No, ugh, I don't think, I don't think I would let him do it.
Speaker 1I met him. Did I tell you when I met him one time?
Speaker 2No.
Speaker 1I met him at a party that was it was an after party for Adam Shankman was the director Adam Shankman? I think that's his name. It was for the movie that he did with Queen Latifah and they have all I think they have a bunch of kids or something.
Speaker 2This is the greatest movie, but so it was after party I thought that won the Academy Award.
Speaker 1For what? For what?
Speaker 2For a movie you've never really heard of.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Go ahead. I'm sorry you were saying about Queen Latifah.
Speaker 1Oh well they were. The after party was at the Chateau Marmont which, by the way, miss Elliott came in and she is so cute and tiny and they disappeared off into the bedroom a few times. So they might have, may or may not have been doing, you know, illicit. I don't want to say oh, maybe drugs, I don't know, I don't think they were getting it on back there.
Speaker 2No one, no one's.
Speaker 1They're not allowed to have drugs at the chateau yeah, that's what the first thing they say, um, but anyway, so, yeah, so I walk through and um the party. Oh, by the way, I just want to make this is a super off the topic thing, but queen Latifah, unbeknownst to me, I'm standing over here, I'm looking over here, walks into the room and I didn't know it, but the whole entire room, the energy completely changed and I was like what is going on on? And I turn around and I see this gorgeous woman wearing a white suit and a white hat and she made her way through the room. I swear to god, it was like one of those moments where, like, she was just, I don't know she, just her presence was just. So I don't know what's the word I'm looking for.
Speaker 2I want to say magnanimous, but I'm not really sure what that means yeah, is that good? Yeah, I think yeah well alex gave me a thumbs up, which, because it sounds good, yeah, I mean she's like I could definitely be like, oh, you know, people that kind of walk in you're like, oh hey, oh, my god. So, and so is here.
Speaker 1But it wasn't like that. It was like you weren't even paying attention and the room could.
Speaker 2The room just felt different oh wow interesting maybe everyone owed her money and they're all she's walked in.
Speaker 1They're all like and then we're quiet.
Speaker 2It's very possible, yeah, I mean, she seems like a very uh, you know um, she's a queen she's gorgeous by the way she's unbelievably beautiful.
Speaker 1She's beautiful skin, but anyway. So I made my way out to the balcony and the directors out there, adam and I don't know who else is sitting around there they have like I think they're like a little fire or something up there, and I see Steve Martin and I'm like all right, I got to get in on this. So I walk over um and uh, I just was like oh, hey, you know hey. And then, um, adam was like oh, hey, oh, by the way, oh, this is uh, steve, steve, this is my esthetician. That was, that was my introduction.
Speaker 2I didn't get a name.
Speaker 1Nice I just got his esthetician, that's not nice.
Speaker 2Well, you know these Hollywood people, sometimes they don't care about you and it's not. It's not there, it's part of like just the job.
Speaker 1Yeah, you have to be kind of a.
Speaker 2Kind of a just like. This is my esthetician, you know Right, because he's very busy.
Speaker 1He's very busy, so what?
Speaker 2does Steve Martin say?
Speaker 1Oh, hello, esthetician or something like that, and then didn't ask my name afterwards. Steve Martin felt very much like he didn't want to be disturbed. I get the feeling like he's kind of like over it with people, just like coming at him all the time. Gotcha, yeah, yeah, yeah he's not the kind of person you would walk up to and want to approach necessarily he likes his privacy. He's done meeting people. He's done. He's met them all meeting people.
Speaker 2He's done me he's met them all I've met enough people in my life, I don't want to meet anymore. And someone's like do you want to meet? No, no, I'm good yeah, when somebody waves, so many goes. I'm sorry, I'm not meeting people anymore I'm not doing meets anymore I'm not, I quit. I quit waving to people they think I meet them. I can't have any more meetings, but that's wild, yeah anyway. So queen latifah is an asshole, I heard? No, I'm just kidding oh, anyway.
Speaker 1So um, an cheaper option? Uh would be. There's something called the inky list caffeine eye cream, which is about ten dollars, I believe okay I think that's the one right. Yeah, um, and that is. It's just a gel. I guess that you would just put on your eyes underneath and then it just kind of shrinks it down you could probably even put it in the refrigerator, and that would be good too.
Speaker 1Anytime you have eye products, you can always pretty much put them in the fridge. Um, okay, so we've tried cold. Um, what about we can do? Makeup, makeup magic.
Speaker 2Okay. What does that in turn? What does that require me to do?
Speaker 1You're probably not going to be able to pull off the makeup look unless you're on camera.
Speaker 2Right.
Speaker 1But if you have dark circles or purple underneath your eyes or underneath your skin, usually you need to cover it with a peach first. You can't just put the concealer right on top the light concealer, because it doesn't work a nectarine, just just a nectarine by itself, yeah because the peach has fuzz.
Speaker 2I don't want that fuzz on me okay, it's softer, though what's that? It's softer. Oh, that's true, I forgot about it yeah okay, I'll put the fuzz. Okay, okay, that was easy. So, okay, good, yeah, thanks um?
Speaker 1What was I saying? Oh yeah.
Speaker 2Peaches.
Speaker 1Yeah, peaches, there's something called Canned peaches. Oh my God. There's something called LA Girl Pro Concealer, orange Corrector, and that's. It's like five bucks. You can also get there's one. Hold on, I brought one. This is something I've used before when I've had a bruise and let's see, did I put it?
Speaker 2in here. If it's your car keys, then no.
Speaker 1No, I don't think I thought I put it in here. Anyways, it's something you can buy at Target. They have a couple different lines.
Speaker 2By the way, I don't know why you don't start putting something called I don't think I put it in here inside your bag, because every time you open it I don't think I put it in here. What's in there?
Speaker 1I don't know Everything I didn't need. Everything you looked for is never in there, so wait, so you're looking for a concealer. I was looking for the little concealer. I thought I brought it just to show it. It's concealed.
Speaker 2Man, we should just end this podcast right now. Let's go get some pizza, we'll be right back, yeah.
Speaker 1Here's another one, though, that I use. This is a full coverage. This is NYX, you can get this at Target, and so, then, what I would do is put the peach first.
Speaker 2Okay, so it's not such a like it blends the colors together.
Speaker 1Yeah, and then you would put you got to be careful with the under eye because you don't want to go too dry, right? So you'd want something that's going to stay kind of moist. This one's a little bit drying, um, but if you can get something that's a little more creamy, I don't know how far I would go with the powdering, though, with that if you had a bruise on your face or something, then you would powder it, maybe put another little layer and then put another little layer of powder.
Speaker 2Um, just if you're looking to conceal something yeah, but then the powder, what that comes off uh, the powder on your eyes it gets crinkly and it makes your eyes look drier.
Speaker 2You know you're gonna suck out all the moisture, which is not something we want you don't want drier eyes, no, no um, let's see diy remedies, okay, well, we talked about spoons right, that's a diy unless you're getting professionally done, professional spooning on your face, you know oh, that sounds nice, like really good, you just lay in bed yeah, and they have like a like, a whole, like assortment, like of the spoons.
Speaker 1Yeah, they go. Oh yeah, that soundshmm, but if you don't have that situation, in your house. Yeah, right, what do you do? You use tea bags.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Are we going to make a tea bagging joke?
Speaker 2No, they don't have to.
Speaker 1You want to.
Speaker 2I don't want to. That's such a stupid thing, okay.
Speaker 1It's a dumb thing it's a serious thing.
Speaker 2Why would you ever like?
Speaker 1you don't do that it's such a stupid image though yeah, by putting your balls on someone else.
Speaker 2Why? It doesn't make any sense. It's not a power move. Unless they're cold, it's not a power move at all, your balls are out.
Speaker 1Yeah, you're very vulnerable.
Speaker 2You're an idiot, yeah yeah, don't have your balls out unless you plan to use them. That's what they say. That's what they say. But um, tea, though teas.
Speaker 1I want to get back to tea okay, let's get back to tea bags should have never got roped into testicles I don't even know how to address that, but, um, the tea has, um something in it that that is a really good antioxidant. I'm trying to think of the name of it.
Speaker 1Again caffeine, so you want to use a black tea or a green tea. You can use an herbal tea. Just the fact that you're putting something cold and wet on your eyes and letting it sit there for 15 minutes or so, that's going to bring it down too. But with the combination of the I think it's polyphenols Maybe that's going to bring it down too, but with the combination of the.
Speaker 2I think it's polyphenols, Maybe that's the antioxidant. It has theophylline in it, which I know is supposed to be good for your breathing.
Speaker 1What is it?
Speaker 2Theophylline.
Speaker 1Oh, green tea has it.
Speaker 2I think tea has it. I'm not sure what specific tea I think, just in general.
Speaker 1So maybe it allows your skin to breathe, I don't know. So maybe it allows your skin to breathe. I don't know, I'm not sure if that's the thing you're talking about, but they say that drinking green tea is good for people who are concerned about getting lung cancer.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1So it supposedly helps with free radicals? What about people?
Speaker 2who aren't concerned with it, people who drink it and they're not concerned with it. I don't know.
Speaker 1Yeah well, they're going to be pissed off.
Speaker 2I like the free radicals. Yeah, yeah, it's good. Band eyelash is coming uh oh shit, hold on, I'm gonna put it right there oh yeah, okay, cool.
Speaker 1Yeah, should I just take them out. Let's see, is it okay?
Speaker 2yeah, you're good now. Can you see me now? Okay, there you go, okay good is it there? Yeah, I think he's wearing prescription eyelashes, so they're, uh, their transition. When she goes outside to, they get darker.
Speaker 1Is it on there again?
Speaker 2Yeah, it's on there again.
Speaker 1I don't have any problem talking about the fact that I use fake eyelashes, fake hair. No, they're real eyelashes.
Speaker 2We have a friend who works over at the morgue and we get real eyelashes, some people have organ donors that donate their eyelashes.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, it's okay, we can talk about it.
Speaker 2All right, we can talk about it.
Speaker 1All right, we'll talk about it later, anyway, so yeah, so if it wasn't going to stick on, I would just take them off and be like whatever.
Speaker 2You look great Shut up.
Speaker 1Well, okay, I want to mention, though take a look at my eyes, don't take a look at the eyelashes. I'm this is not part of the five things, because this is something that's going to build up over time. My under eyes look pretty clear though, right? Yeah, I mean for somebody who's you know my age, right.
Speaker 2Yeah, they look clear.
Speaker 1So normally I would put like a little bit in here you don't want to go crazy with concealer all the way across, you usually just kind of want to put it in this little trough area and then maybe like a little bit up here, little trough area, and then maybe like a little bit up here, um, but drinking.
Speaker 1I've been drinking lemon water with honey every morning before I do anything else, on an empty stomach and sometimes at night, and I think it's been for maybe two or three months and I've noticed that my eye, my eye bags or my eye circles have really lessened because I was struggling really to try to keep them covered up because, I haven't been sleeping that well.
Speaker 2Yeah, but you've been sleeping better now than before, right, better now than like a year ago. Yeah.
Speaker 1But I notice also when I get migraines, my dark circles get really dark. I can tell if I'm going to get a migraine sometimes just by looking at my eyes. I don't know what happens?
Speaker 2yeah, I don't know what happens interesting, maybe it's just like kind of yeah, sometimes I look at my face and I can tell that I'm not feeling some type of way some type of way, you know, very vague.
Speaker 1Um well, specifically so that's something you would want to do every day and it tastes good. I use I put honey in there and the liver is detoxed partially by lemon.
Speaker 2Oh really.
Speaker 1And so the liver is also connected to your eyes, Like when you get jaundice it's in your eyes and that's your liver.
Speaker 2Oh wow, Isn't that interesting.
Speaker 1Yeah, I didn't know that Chinese medicine links your eyes to your liver.
Speaker 2Okay, I wonder if Michael Jordan has liver issues, because his eyes were very yellow.
Speaker 1Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2In that episode of the Last Dance when he was on some dancing show he was doing.
Speaker 1Dancing with the Stars?
Speaker 2Yeah, and you saw his eyes. No, he was on Dancing with the Stars. It was about him playing basketball the last year with the bulls, uh-huh, and it's called the last dance, sorry sports but he doesn't dance at all in it, so he doesn't dance, yeah, yeah, that'd be disappointed too yeah, but he might have liver issues he could, he could do it.
Speaker 1Who knows what those, those athletes, put in their bodies?
Speaker 2you know, yeah, bodies, you know, yeah, I mean you know public eye, who knows how people everybody's got lives. I heard. Anyways, I like the public eye, the public eye.
Speaker 1That's a good name for some makeup. Another thing you can do is potato slices. They're known to lighten the area under your skin. Oh really.
Speaker 2Mm-hmm, interesting. Is that for real? Or does somebody just have a bunch of potatoes and they're like, hey, listen, you know potato slices like get rid of these potatoes.
Speaker 1I know I need these potatoes gone. Yeah, we're gonna have to bleep your f word out. Don't say the f word.
Speaker 2People are gonna know what I said. I know what. How do you um? How do you do that like? You just put like little thin slices yeah, you just yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1You don't want to put a thick slice on there. A thin slice will cover it nicely.
Speaker 2It's not like a side of beef.
Speaker 1Yeah, tater tots is what Alex said. That's all it is. Oh my God, give me some french fries. Yeah, what do you call those Steak fries?
Speaker 2Yeah, some steak fries. Oh good, that's good coverage. Yeah, really good coverage. Absolutely, yeah, animal style, animal style, the potatoes. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1and then put them right under your eye. That sounds delicious. Actually it does, really. I'm hungry, all right and then the fifth thing. Uh, because we do always do things in fives for you that's right is elevation and hydration. So if you're sleeping, it's better to sleep kind of, at least for me. Anyways, lately I I have to sleep slightly elevated, so that if, I if I ate? Yeah, standing up if I ate anything before afternoon yeah, I'm gonna get heartburn.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's better to have like a reflex. Yeah, uh, my issue is I always I have to. For some reason I can't stay on my back yeah you know, my mom has always said stay on your back, you'll make a lot of money. No, um, your mom said that. I don't know why she said that, but but I keep rolling to my side to go to sleep. I've noticed that and uh, yeah, that also helps, like the my face and the fluids yeah, and you're giving like smushy face to yourself.
Speaker 1Yeah, I've trained my hands to hold my face so that it doesn't get smushed. Have you noticed that? I've noticed when you're sleeping.
Speaker 2At times you're sleeping and you do this.
Speaker 1I'm pulling my head off of the mattress. Off the mattress, I'm like how are you doing?
Speaker 2that, but your biceps look great. Really jacked.
Speaker 1It's worth it. So, yes, you're going to get less fluid buildup if you're doing that and also being hydrated, drinking enough water. Staying hydrated is going to help you plump up the skin and it's going to reduce the dark circles, because you're going to flush out. You're just flushing out your body, so it can only help you. And then I wanted to add to that flushing. Let's see what was I going with that? Plenty of water. Oh crap, I forget. Okay, I'll come back to it, alright. So what's the improv?
Speaker 2that's a good improv. I'll come back to it oh man, that one just builds suspense.
Speaker 1I'll come back to it by the way, it's what I do for a living. That's why I forgot my other living.
Speaker 2Yeah, improv yeah.
Speaker 1No, that's my third living. It makes a little on the other two. I have to have a third. It's a living. It's a living. Now, what was I going to say Exactly? Oh no, it's massage. Okay, massage the area you can do lymphatic drainage, which is we've done before on the show which is very lightly. Yeah, oh God, you're good yeah.
Speaker 1I remember Thanks, yeah, or you can do it like with the gua sha you make sure that it's very well oiled, flat, almost completely flat all the way across, and then you go down here. You want to, you know, because chances are, if you're having a lot of puffiness it's because your lymph is stagnant.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Right, so you can even like work down here, in case some of it comes down here, but ideally you want it to come out and then down these channels and then they kind of go into here, you know, getting on like the trampoline and like just doing that and like just letting that come out.
Speaker 2Would that be the same thing, or do you still have to do the finger?
Speaker 1I don't know how fast it works on the trampoline, but I think over time trampolining will definitely help with eye circles. Okay, yeah, it helps with so much. We don't even realize because the trampoline, our body, doesn't have a, a lymph pump. You know, we are the pump.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, I got you, so we walk. Our movement is what keeps, that's why, yeah, that's why I have to keep moving. Or else they say if you, you, if you don't move it, you lose it.
Speaker 1That's right. Or they say move it or lose it.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, move it or lose it. Right, was that about? What was that about? It's? If you don't use it, you lose it. If you don't use it, you lose it. Yeah, I think if oh, it's towing, it's about towing. If you don't move it, you lose it. They'll tow your car. Oh, okay, yep, I knew it was about something.
Speaker 1Well, that was so worth it. Yeah, that was my no, I've been thinking about that all day.
Speaker 2I want to get to the bottom of that.
Speaker 1I hate you, so yeah, so that's the sixth thing is massage. There other things. Those are the very quick fixes. Massage over time helps with it as well, but doing you can do some light massage around your orbital bone, here you know. And it also helps to release acupressure points, which is really relaxing and good for you. Chances are. If you have dark circles, you probably have also adrenal issues, like you're overstimulated your adrenals, which is very common. Too much copy, not enough sleep you know, what? Basically how everybody lives.
Speaker 2Okay, um, what if I work in like a coal mine and like I don't get any sleep whatsoever and the next day I have like a very, I have a big, I have a big audition, because you know I'm a coal?
Speaker 1miner, but I also sometimes audition for commercials, right you?
Speaker 2know I'm a coal miner. That happens so often. But I also sometimes audition for commercials.
Speaker 1Right.
Speaker 2You know, get outside my comfort zone.
Speaker 1I really so badly. I wish I had put like black on these so you could like look through them and then pull it away and have like a little black under your eyes.
Speaker 2We should do that to somebody someday.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, that's a good idea.
Speaker 2Yeah, nice prank yeah, yeah, or just put it on there, in case somebody ever does it, yeah.
Speaker 1Linoche, and they're like oh.
Speaker 2I know, yeah, I didn't put them on my eyes, Okay.
Speaker 1So yeah, gua sha. We talked about a jade roller. You can keep a gua sha in the fridge also.
Speaker 2I like the cooling fridge. I used to keep eye drops in the fridge.
Speaker 1Eye drops are lovely.
Speaker 2Very. The fridge eye drops are lovely and that's another way to just sort of cool your eyes down at least if nothing else what, if you like, use eye drops that constrict the redness? Would that actually do anything for your eyes?
Speaker 1I don't know that it would get in your skin, because you have that cavern where your eyes are. I don't know that it's gonna. You have to get, I don't know, I think you have to put something on the outside topically for it to go in this way okay.
Speaker 2Yeah, so I can't just inject visine into my eyes.
Speaker 1I go right over here that is something I would like to see. I wouldn't like to see that you won't see it, because you'll be injecting your eyes wow, it's like the movie inception.
Speaker 2I never saw it boom roasted, okay.
Speaker 1So, um, there's tons of retinol creams you can get that are very expensive. Some are not so expensive, some are more expensive. Those are, you know. People say that they help with dark circles. I don't know if I've been consistent enough with my retinol to know if it's actually works for that, but vitamin C is a good skin brightener as well. Okay, yeah, did you have something you wanted to interject?
Speaker 2I was just going to say, like these your notes here. It's uh one of the jokes that that um, this, this thing suggested was uh. So Sandra could ask playfully so if I get fillers, will my eye bags look like tiny plumped up marshmallows? I mean that's a great, that I mean that's funny is it?
Speaker 1no, but but it's, it's. I can't I can't.
Speaker 2It's like, uh, it's like watching star trek, when commander data was trying to like, trying to teach him, trying to teach him, uh, comedy, and then in the scene I remember they had joe piscopo trying to teach him comedy for real, yeah, and I was just like, well, there's your first problem, but secondly, he's an android, he's not going to get comedy. So this thing yeah, it doesn't quite get your sense of humor. No. Or mine for that matter.
Speaker 1Not yet.
Speaker 2Yeah, we'll see what it can do, okay.
Speaker 1All right. So we talked about we did talk about some long-term things we talked about. You can also, by the way, if you're just desperate, you can also go the you know the injection route. I personally don't recommend doing filler under the eye because they're now saying that filler doesn't truly always disappear in the face, and I've had clients who have literally hired me to smooth out this line that they got under their eye, that where they can see the filler but where would you put filler?
Exploring Causes of Dark Circles
Speaker 1That's if, like you don't have enough or you're, you don't have you would put the filler like right in the in the indentation here where your dark circle is Okay, okay, gotcha. But I do know someone and I I think I'm going to bring in the um, the nurse that did it, uh, to Caitlin, she talks about it. I'm going to bring in the nurse that did it to Caitlin, she talks about it. I'm not giving away anything.
Speaker 2It's something called PR. Don't give away anything.
Speaker 1No, we don't have enough to give yeah.
Speaker 2I don't want to put that into the universe. We have everything you know what. Don't put anything into the universe. The universe has enough of it. You're so stingy. The universe has its own stuff. Yeah, oh, my God. Okay, I love you babe.
Speaker 1What was I talking about?
Speaker 2The universe. No before that. You're talking about the PRP, oh right, yeah, or it's also called PRF.
Speaker 1It's plasma rich. I guess maybe it's fluid for the F, yeah for the F, fun and I rather than fun, and I've heard that it's not fun to get. Caitlin said to me it's. It's not comfortable to get it in her eyes, but well worth it. She looks fantastic. She also got this other thing that I'm interested in doing. It's not a filler in your lips, but it is an injection for like hydration, um, and it doesn't last. It lasts maybe six of six months, maybe okay a year.
Speaker 2I don't know, do you be plump your lips?
Speaker 1yeah, just a little bit yeah adding like water to it it's um, I need to find out exactly what it is, I want to investigate it and I actually want to have that nurse on the show and she can explain it to us. Yeah, and you can do that in your face as well, and that's better than like the hyaluronic acid fillers that they have you, you know, in the dermatologist's office, I think. I think because it breaks down more easily than whatever this is. It's breaking down more easily than something you're going to get in a derm, right, right, what not to do to get the dark circles? We already said get some sleep.
Speaker 1For the God's sake, get some sleep. Yep, for the god's sake, get some sleep, yep. Uh, don't overdo um caffeine, or, or just don't overrun your body with you know, like just take a stimulants, yeah, stimulants.
Speaker 1Stimulants will take your body and it takes the, the adrenaline and it just, it just taxes them, so your adrenals are so tired of just pumping out adrenaline, um, and when you get to a point where your adrenals are so tired of just pumping out adrenaline, um, and when you get to a point where your adrenals are completely shot, you can do this. What is what I did when I was a teenager is I would be able to drink like a whole big cup of coffee and then just go right to sleep. That's because your adrenals are blasted. Oh wow, yeah, I was smoking cigarettes and yeah, that'll.
Speaker 2that'll get all that stuff out of there, All that.
Speaker 1Probably not sleeping, probably doing illicit drugs and things like that, because as you do it as a teenager yeah Well, I mean, you're a teenager.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're blasting your adrenals.
Speaker 1We're going to blast them today dude Coffee.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, it's not good. And then salt. That seems like obvious, but people forget Salt. Retaining water, wow.
Speaker 1The dehydration too, is not only it's because, by the way, back to dehydration, it's not only because it's plumping up your skin, but when you're dehydrated, well yeah, the first place the body takes water from is your skin. It's your largest organ and it's way more important than your brain, but also if your body thinks it's dehydrated a lot of times, it will hold water in places you don't want it. So then when you drink water, it's like the water goes with the water.
Speaker 2You're flushing it. You're flushing it, yeah.
Speaker 1It's like when you get a gas, when it like the get and you like put gas into a gas thing, you're siphoning. Yeah, but you have to get it going first right.
Speaker 2You have to keep it. You have to keep it moving right, because if not, it just sits there because it holds on to it then, when it realizes it has enough, it's like okay, we don't need this much, because we have more coming, we're fine right.
Speaker 1Yeah, the body is pretty amazing I think I mean gasoline oh, gasoline yeah boom.
Speaker 2I forgot what we're saying. Roasted, boom, roasted. Yeah, the body is amazing how it just basically it's like hold on to it and then, when you like, flush it. It's just, it's nice feeling when you uh, you know, especially when you're on the road. I've been driving for the last couple days so it's just stopping peeing everywhere. You know. It's just amazing.
Speaker 1This is a good feeling to feel your body just flush everything out can I tell them about your little secret, in case you ever see us driving around?
Speaker 2oh yeah, if you want to tell them about my secret, sure go ahead no, should I not tell them?
Speaker 1no, it's fine, it's an easy secret okay, um, sandra, if we're parked somewhere like uh, if he has to pee oh sorry yeah no, he would walk around to the thing and be like oh, I wanted to show you this thing on the inside of the door opens the car door. Now we've got a little, you know. Enclave, is that the right word?
Speaker 1yeah, yeah, a clave, an enclave yeah yeah, and then I just, and then he and I pee, he's peace, and then I just talk to him as if he's not yeah, or if I'm by myself and there's no one to talk to yeah, what do you do?
Speaker 2I stay on my side of the car if there's no one that's around and then I just pretend like I just go to myself. I go oh, what's in the what's in my, what's on the bottom of my door and I do that, and then I just pee while I'm doing that, or I'll hold my phone up and I'll go what's up here, because you know, direct people's attention up that way right, yeah that's what I'll do if I'm in the walmart parking lot oh this, you hold shiny things up, this shiny things up this way they go what's over here?
Speaker 2I mean you're peeing, you know, or if it's like noisy in their road, I'm like, yeah, I'm just gonna pee here, you just have to. Just you feel it out, you know, read. It's gonna say read the room yeah, really the road. Read the topography yeah, read the road exactly, so you kind of have to figure out yourself. But yeah, you can. You know you can do what you want to do. You had to pee, you can pee when you gotta pee, you gotta pee.
Speaker 1The, yeah, the, I think one of the. Well, yeah, I don't want to tell that story, but, um, I had to pee one time. I think I don't know if I was picking you up from the airport, someone I was picking up for the airport, and it takes, you know, probably 45 to an hour to get from where I live to lax yeah and I had to pee by the time I got there, because I didn't want to be dehydrated, but I had to pee, so bad yeah and if it was you, I was just waiting, maybe you hadn't, you know, deboarded, or whatever.
Speaker 1They call it, unboarded, is that right? No, I don't know. I think not, I think it's deplane, deplane. Deplaning yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, like Fantasy Island.
Speaker 1Yeah, but it is deplaning. Did you just look at the time?
Speaker 2Yeah, of course I looked at the time.
Speaker 1Why, huh, you got somewhere to go.
Speaker 2No, I'm like am. I still having fun.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Okay, good.
Speaker 1What was I talking?
Speaker 2about, so you had to pee. Oh right, okay, you went to LAX.
Speaker 1I had had a drink of some sort with me Don't get too specific, I don't remember what it was Was it a liquid. It was a liquid drink, right, it was in a cup.
Speaker 2Okay.
Speaker 1Which I was no longer using, longer using, and I think it was like I'm pretty sure it was a disposable cup. Um, I went into the back seat of my own car. I went into the parking lot, okay, yep, you go through the little thing and go up into the went all the way to the top, which they probably have cameras now. But uh, I got into the back seat yep okay got prepared myself, pulled out and then peed into the cup nice filled up the cup wow, okay and then I'm sorry to say that I I had to pour it out yeah you, she really kept it like the golden child.
Speaker 2Yeah, exactly where he's trying to hold the, he's trying to hold the cup and then he ends up drinking it. Yeah, yeah, he hope he doesn't do that. No, no, my dear brother numsi it's like good movie.
Speaker 1We should watch that. Yeah, let's get out of here, okay.
Speaker 2But so you peed in the cup and then you picked me up and then you told me about it. I did tell you about it.
Speaker 1So you remembered then.
Speaker 2I remembered the pee and yeah.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, that's how bad I had to pee. It was bad yeah.
Speaker 2When you, when you gotta go, you gotta go, yeah. So what have we learned?
Speaker 1today. Um, it's not the end of the world.
Speaker 2If you get under eye bag stuff you can make a couple tweaks here and there and uh, there's some quick, you know, there's some quick uh remedies and what could you list them? Off if I asked you to cold compress, and then um, hold on cold. And then there was the tea bags.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2And then there was the.
Speaker 1Don't be looking up there.
Speaker 2I'm not Okay. Cold therapy. There was the tea bags. Okay, and then concealer.
Speaker 1Okay, yeah, that was one, yep.
Speaker 2And then Caffeine.
Speaker 1Caffeine, yep, caffeine, yep things with caffeine, caffeine constrict to put on your eyes. That's right, dry skin. Uh, we did the t-bag and then, obviously, and then hydration, hydration and propping your head up and propping head also okay.
Speaker 2So those are. Those are also quick tips like keeping your head propped up yeah, it's. Because the blood flow and get the lymphatics.
Speaker 1I guess you're sleeping at night, but I'm sure if you yeah, I don't know that's a good point.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1That's not a quick fix really.
Speaker 2Yeah Well, it's not an exact science.
Speaker 1We have other ones in there too that you could add as a quick fix, probably Mm-hmm.
Speaker 2I think mainly just cutting out the salt and drinking a bunch of water. I think that will. You know, the hydration definitely will help. And the elevation, go to a really high part of like, go to the top of a mountain and you'll look so much better. Go to Denver, go to Denver and just talk to everybody from there. Okay, and then you know then, and ironically, when you get to a higher elevation, you have to drink more water because you need to hydrate more.
Speaker 1I love that you yes-anded yourself.
Speaker 2And I appreciate you saying that.
Speaker 1Well, I feel like we covered a lot of territory without a lot of fat to trim.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think we did a lot of stuff here, and probably too much. Yeah, I think we could have just said hello our names and left. We got to make the list though.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2But we did, but that was good. Okay, yeah, very nice.
Speaker 1We'll probably cover it again with another person that has really bad eye bags that wants to talk about it, because it's never not a relevant topic.
Speaker 2Eye bags can come up a lot LA Eye bag city, a lot la ibag city. That's what they call it. Ibag city, ibag city. Yeah, with the girls.
Speaker 1I forgot how it goes, I don't remember, but it's true, sometimes I like to just let you drown, just let you just keep talking, that's just I, I don't mind breathing water. I'm fine with it you're actually, everyone else is actually drowning because I'm fine with it.
Speaker 2So you're the one that's drowning in your own, not being fine with it.
Speaker 1You're so treading water right now I don't tread. Yeah, it's like you're idling, like the car's idling until you hit the next gear.
Speaker 2Or until, like a car, comes and T-bombs me and hits me from behind.
Speaker 1All right, let's not even talk about that yeah. No, we, yeah, no, we're not going to talk about it. No, don't talk about it. Well, thanks for tuning in, um. Please hit the subscribe button. Also hit the notification button because so that we can, they can notify you. Whoever notifies you someone at youtube will send you an email yeah, let us know.
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Speaker 2I thought you re-upped your license.
Speaker 1No, I let it lapse, I let it prolapse. Okay, you guys, so we will see you next. Thanks, I like to not leave room for laughter because it's probably not going to be there. It's like when you know your closer sucks and you just like throw it out there and then you get off the stage.
Speaker 2You're just like all right guys, I got to get going, all right, my next joke.
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