Sex, Drugs and Skincare

The Five Reasons Every Man Should Book a Facial Today

Nicky Davis, Sandro Iocolano,James Graves Season 1 Episode 101

Send us a text

Why are so many men missing out on the transformative power of professional facials? In this eye-opening episode, we tackle the stubborn myths and misconceptions that keep men from proper skincare while making a compelling case for why regular facials aren't just beneficial—they're essential.

Joined by comedian James Graves, we break down the five crucial reasons men should incorporate facials into their self-care routine. From controlling excess oil production and preventing acne to improving beard health and reducing painful ingrown hairs, the benefits extend far beyond vanity. We explore how men's naturally thicker, oilier skin requires specialized attention and why that bar of soap in your shower is actively working against you.

The conversation takes a fascinating turn when we discuss the stress-relieving benefits of professional skincare. High cortisol levels don't just impact your mental health—they directly affect your skin, leading to inflammation, breakouts, and that stubborn "stress belly." Through personal anecdotes and expert insights, we reveal how the right facial treatment can reduce puffiness, define your jawline, and boost your overall confidence.

For men hesitant to enter the skincare world, we offer practical advice on finding reputable services, what to ask for, and what to expect during your first facial. We even bust common skincare myths in a rapid-fire segment that separates fact from fiction.

Speaker 1:

You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to Sex Drugs and Skincare. I am the host, nikki Davis Jr.

Speaker 2:

Nice, I'm the lead host.

Speaker 1:

You're the rhythm host, I'm the rhythm host.

Speaker 2:

Oh nice, okay. Instead of like the co-host, it's like the rhythm host.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I'm the person that's just in the back filling in all the stuff that you may have missed.

Speaker 1:

Exactly, I may have missed.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's what it is yeah, it's pretty, yeah, it's to be thorough. Yes, yeah, you're not gonna make a george thorough good joke.

Speaker 1:

No, I was actually gonna make a big lebowski joke that's good. Oh, he's a good man and thorough, yeah, nice um, but uh, let me just say up front uh, I'm a stand-up esthetician, a licensed comedian. Like and subscribe, or just subscribe or just like. But better would if you could like, subscribe and comment, that would be great. And so just hit it, hit it. I don't know where it is in relation to my finger, but just do that again.

Speaker 2:

You don't have to like it to tell people that you liked it that's true, if you hate it, who cares? Just subscribe, just thumb it do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, put it, give it, give it a thumb, alex producer.

Speaker 2:

Alex is agreeing it's been shown that if you like and subscribe to something and comment and you've been, you're nice about it your dopamine shoots up. Yeah, so be nice to yourself and be nice to the computer, because one day it's going to rule you, like it already does.

Speaker 1:

Look what's in your hand right now. You got to be nice oh, so you can get your dopamine hits later. That's really, that's a good plan.

Speaker 2:

And then people are like, oh my God somebody liked your comment and you're like oh my God, I'm really a good commenter.

Speaker 3:

You know, and they're like. I need this, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I exactly yeah, you make it on them.

Speaker 2:

They're like oh my god, that was great, that was such a great idea. You had to like this thing. And you're like oh no, it was easy to like, I love it you're so thorough this is thorough of you.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, very thorough with me, as always, is my uh co-host, sherpa the boyfriend. Set decorator um sandro yocolano yep, I'm not licensed he's not licensed. No, he has zero license. He lost his license.

Speaker 2:

Licensure.

Speaker 1:

You lost your licensure. Yeah, is that a word?

Speaker 2:

I don't know.

Speaker 1:

I like it.

Speaker 2:

I think it's a word, something like that.

Speaker 1:

Like tenure licensure? Yeah, I think so. I used to always think somebody's tenure was like they've been there for longer than the person who hasn't been there the shortest exactly the shortest you've been here long enough to uh for me to say that you've been here for eight months and everybody else has been here for four, so I have tenure you have tenure, which is like just you have I've been here longer.

Speaker 2:

Isn't that kind of stupid? I was here longer your grandfather didn't pretty much oh yeah, which, by the way, if you come from a broken home being grandfathered in, this is oh yeah, which, by the way if you come from a broken home being grandfathered in is a whole other meaning, speaking of grandfathers, they are men yes, oh. What's today's topic about?

Speaker 1:

funny. You should ask sandro. Uh, today's topic is why? Five reasons why men have to get facials.

Speaker 2:

Okay, five reasons okay five main reasons why men have to get facials um, and this is uh in their best interest to get facials absolutely.

Speaker 1:

I mean, you guys need help, and uh, we're here to tell you why, okay, and um, that's, uh, that's why we're here so I think maybe, without further ado, should we just get right into it.

Speaker 2:

There should be no more ado at all. In fact, take the ado you have and throw it all over your back. I want further more.

Speaker 1:

No, none, none of it and if you already know and you already are getting facials, this will actually help you to step up your game and it'll give you an excuse to tell your wife to put more money into your account, into your venmo right, it does feel good to get stuff done for yourself.

Speaker 2:

I've noticed that if I take care of my car or I take care of myself, and this took many years of well, a couple years of medication and about the same amount of time of four different therapists at the same time At the same time, at the same time, at the same time, oh, okay, at the same time all at once. I like to get very economical.

Speaker 3:

Each one has a different personality. Yeah, exactly, you're all talking at the same time.

Speaker 2:

I say the same thing to all four of their ears and since there are four different people, there's four different perspectives, hopefully. And then they shoot back at me and I go yeah, I like that. No, I don't like that take. No, I do love my mom, I don't like that one, I do love my mom, I don't like that one. And then I come back and I tell them why I think they're right or wrong.

Speaker 1:

And I think it works perfectly too, because you're from an Italian family where everybody just talks as loud as they can at each other.

Speaker 2:

Right, nothing's ever dealt with. Nothing's dealt with and you continue being irrational and hotheaded your entire life.

Speaker 1:

Until.

Speaker 2:

You die, or until you happen to.

Speaker 1:

just you know until you die or until you uh, happen to.

Speaker 2:

Just, you know, chill out and someone would be like all right, we're not exactly. Yeah. Yeah, we should be angry to be like hey earlier when I, yep, don't even mention it, and that's as far as I ever got into it, oh my god. So it's like don't even. What there should have been said was don't mention it. We're gonna keep this inside and build resentment.

Speaker 2:

It's fine, we'll do this again soon, I promise don't mention it until it comes up again yeah, yeah, yeah, don't mention until yelling in my face, yeah, but um, yeah, I feel I feel good it's. It makes you have, you have value was. What I was going to say was I take care of myself, I take care of whatever, and I feel like it adds value to it.

Speaker 2:

It makes me feel good, you know so yeah, and you've really been doing that over the last, uh, 12 years, 13 years we've been together, yep, little by little, adding a little bit of this and that, yeah before I was completely I didn't even, I was bumping into walls, I was getting into the trunk of my car trying to drive it, and then I met Nikki and she's like no, no, no, here's the door handle.

Speaker 3:

Stop treating yourself like trash.

Speaker 2:

Yes, Just start treating yourself Pretty much yeah. Don't treat yourself like trash, just treat yourself. Yeah, I didn't realize how I was talking about myself. That's true, you were talking shit about yourself. Well, I'm excited for today's topic and I'm excited for today's guest. He's a very, very funny comedian, very, very funny comedian and, um, he has an improv background. We talked before the show, so we've gotten to know each other for a couple years now. Uh, you were in the bathroom for a year and a half yeah, yeah yeah

Speaker 2:

we go way back to the bathroom. Um, but yeah, you want to take over the second half of the intro. Um, all right, well, you booked him.

Speaker 1:

I like him, you booked I did all right well coming to the couch james graves. Hey hi. Thanks so much for being here thank you for asking me.

Speaker 3:

I'm so excited.

Speaker 1:

I am excited too. We were just talking about how you're a teacher I I didn't know that.

Speaker 3:

Yes, when I'm not selling my soul on stage to make people laugh, I teach children.

Speaker 1:

Do you get money for your soul too? No, that's not how it works. We haven't gotten paid to get our souls.

Speaker 2:

You said selling the soul.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, oh it's selling it for laughter and acceptance? Oh, okay, but you can.

Speaker 2:

You can also just say being happy because that's what.

Speaker 1:

I've learned too.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes, when I get up there and it doesn't go well and the audience hates me, it makes me feel good because I deserve it, and that makes me happy.

Speaker 3:

What is it about momming that makes us like we want it more, though?

Speaker 1:

It's like it's something, and if you have daddy and mommy issues.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, Well, yeah, both of them. Yeah, I always think about the girlfriend. That doesn't like you, but it just makes you want her more.

Speaker 1:

You're like okay now I want to do more. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 3:

You didn't like that one, huh yeah yeah, yeah, no no I can do better.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to push you into a wall and give you this one.

Speaker 2:

Oh wait, no.

Speaker 1:

I ate. That's why it wasn't funny in bed. What? What are you talking about? Well, on a teacher's salary. Um, I should ask you, do you have? No, I'm just kidding, but um, have you ever had a facial?

Speaker 3:

no, no, I actually haven't all right, my wife is like whatever, like home things, like mass things yeah like christmas morning, like you're gonna wear this while I make breakfast she tells you yeah, because I uh, it's kind of weird that I'm on here because I don't take care of my skin at all, except for soap and water that's kind of common.

Speaker 1:

That's very common.

Speaker 3:

So when I told my wife this is what the podcast I was on, she goes but why you?

Speaker 1:

that's really you don't do anything. I was like.

Speaker 3:

Maybe that's why that's the problem that's the whole point.

Speaker 1:

Well, as I bring up these five things, feel free to interject if you uh, if you have any commentary on it. Um, but uh, shall we, uh, should we start?

Speaker 2:

we shall all right.

Speaker 1:

Reason number one men should have a facial is first of all for acne and uh oil control, because men produce way more sebum, and I know what you're thinking sebum comes out of your no sebum comes out of your pores, Sandra.

Speaker 2:

Oh, I thought it was some, you know, like a really really dirty act done over at the docks With, like a homeless guy, sebum.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, oh, a sebum, right, exactly. And also, when you come in for a facial, I'll give you extractions. You know one will have extractions. Have you heard of extractions before?

Speaker 3:

no so wait you remember when I said I knew nothing so you just have to treat me like I know nothing, so we circle back to that yeah, so all the terminology, I don't know okay.

Speaker 1:

So if you were having a facial right now, I would steam you for probably a good 10-15 minutes.

Speaker 2:

I would go in and steam you with this, like putting steam on your face for a while.

Speaker 1:

Okay, open up your, your what other steaming could there be?

Speaker 2:

well, who knows?

Speaker 3:

I mean again like a, like a roman bathhouse yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I have a roman bathhouse in my apartment, okay good, now we have that figured out, okay, okay um, so I'm gonna. I will empty your pores very carefully. I wear gloves. It's the stuff that you would probably want to do on your own in a mirror, but it's not really good to do that, so a lot of guys do it. You don't look like you do. You have pretty tight-looking pores. Your pores look tight. I feel like that's a compliment. It is Okay. Good, all right.

Speaker 3:

Because something happened to my dad once. I've I've been afraid to pop or uh, you know, blackheads or pimples, because one time my dad he had a pimple right here or a blackhead and he popped it and it didn't. It must have went under his skin and it swelled up. He looked like a lion. It was like this big it was like an abscess or something. Yeah, it was, so it was I was like I'm never doing that.

Speaker 1:

Wow, that was a good way to learn my dad's in the elephant man coming this summer.

Speaker 2:

Dad, do you believe?

Speaker 1:

in unicorns.

Speaker 2:

Oh, okay.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so facials. Basically, we cleanse your skin and it does help regulate the oil production in your skin, but you don't want to do too many extractions because your skin will actually then compensate and keep producing more oil. Like an ex-boyfriend I used to have that would go into the bathroom and squeeze his pores for 25 minutes. And his pores were like he was Italian. His pores were like this, big and it was because of that. He was just constantly. This was the era.

Speaker 2:

So he was trying to make them smaller by squeezing them to make them bigger.

Speaker 1:

But he was just making them worse.

Speaker 3:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, so don't do that?

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, interesting.

Speaker 1:

All right. So reason number two better shaving and beard health.

Speaker 3:

Oh, okay, matt, I feel like you purposely put this toward the top for me.

Speaker 1:

It does say see James Graves. Yeah, it does Okay.

Speaker 3:

Is that okay, but how does that help? I mean so, what does that do?

Speaker 1:

Because you're exfoliating the top layer of your dead skin, the epidermis. So when the dead skin mixes with the dirt and oil, it will A it can create a pimple and B if you're not getting rid of that dead skin.

Speaker 3:

You're going to get an ingrown hair a lot of times. Do you ever get ingrowns? Um, uh, like yes, sometimes yeah occasionally.

Speaker 1:

And how do you get them out? Uh, I just, I just let time. Yeah, yeah, it's actually better.

Speaker 2:

I like that remember. Yeah, politely, yeah, but yours is better time is just.

Speaker 3:

Please, just look in the mirror, please come out. Yeah, yeah, whenever you're ready, yeah well, well, eventually, your skin.

Speaker 1:

Will you know that layer of skin will come to the surface and your hair will just finally poke out. Well, I guess you know.

Speaker 3:

I guess the one thing I mean, even when I was a teenager, that would be the one thing I would do if I had a pimple or something like put a hot towel on it, Okay, and then just let it to it, and then yeah, all right yeah as long as you're doing it with something that's very.

Speaker 1:

I have to make sure that everybody knows this. If you're going to pop a pimple, do what he said, do what james said, but make sure that whatever you're popping it with is not your finger that's dirty, um, or something sterile and you want to go in from the side and not go down. Because if you're going down, you're going to pop the the pore which is already compromised. That's why it red and it's going to go into the pore and then spread to the pores around it.

Speaker 3:

Oh, wow, yeah, and it scars. I've been doing this all wrong.

Speaker 2:

Now you know, if you're doing needle drugs, you don't want to use the same needle to pop your pimples Like if you're doing a round of heroin or something.

Speaker 1:

I was going to say it's needlepoint, but okay, needlepoint. Oh needlepoint's, even better.

Speaker 3:

Are heroin addicts big on skincare and needlepoint and needlepoint, yeah.

Speaker 2:

And needlepoint. They love crocheting in their downtime.

Speaker 1:

Which is a lot.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, they're just if I'm not poking me, I'm poking the fabric. Yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1:

You gotta poke something with a needle, exactly.

Speaker 3:

I'm threading this in something. Oh my God.

Speaker 1:

Okay, and so also the is going to make your beard grow more, if that's what you're into, but so but.

Speaker 3:

So then, mainly it's. If you have a beard, though, so it would it mostly be the steam, because you what else can you do for the fit around the facial?

Speaker 1:

I would go yeah, I would go around your, okay. Yeah, I'd go around your facial. For the most part, I can massage where your beard is, if it doesn't bother you, and I can massage the skin and that produces more collagen, which we'll get to that one I'm already sold, like I know.

Speaker 3:

I don't even know if I need the other three reasons. We'll be back next wednesday um, all right.

Speaker 1:

So anti-aging and skin longevity, which is very important especially in my skin long I've been trying to make my skin longer for years.

Speaker 2:

Really yeah.

Speaker 1:

None of it works.

Speaker 2:

No.

Speaker 1:

All right. So sun damage and premature wrinkles you can get from just not taking care of your skin. Like I said, facials boost the collagen by, you know, stimulating it. It stimulates collagen and elastin in your skin. Okay, so just, you know, just moving it around kind of makes it look younger. Um, and you know, you've seen those guys who neglect their skin and they look like shit and they and they, you know yeah but then there's also guys that neglect their skin and look fabulous.

Speaker 2:

So you know, it just depends on a lot of its genetic, honestly I think so, but I think you can definitely help yourself by uh agreeing with you that's a really good point yeah, I like this guy yeah yeah, I, occasionally I do too, right after, right after couples counseling that's a good time to like each other right afterwards yeah, all right.

Speaker 1:

Reason number four this is just sort of an emotional thing, but stress relief and what, sandra, referring to your own self-care, it's not just vanity, you're actually relaxing. Then you're also making yourself feel better because you're treating yourself to that, you're pampering yourself, which you deserve.

Speaker 3:

I believe in that. Okay, good.

Speaker 1:

I wanted to make sure that you did before I moved on to the next reason why.

Speaker 3:

I think anyone wants to take care of themselves a little bit, but it's hard. As a guy like, that's not, it's not the first thing I think of of taking care of myself is like you're not facial my skin. Yeah, not at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, no, none of that or like. If I have dry skin. I never, I would never consider to like. It's like man. My elbows look like they, look like my, my shoe treads, you know, like it's super all just like all gnarly whatever. I never thought to put lotion on them and no, now I do it Until me. Until you and you're like, your elbows hurt me. Why are you elbowing me in the face and you're like, if you have to continue to elbow me in the face.

Speaker 1:

Give me like a rash with his elbow. Alex is rolling his eyes, by the way. What's that? Your elbow to the face? Oh well, purist man, I elbow. Okay, you're really into that?

Speaker 2:

elbow play. Yeah, I love it. Elbow play, I love that.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yeah, we used to call them elbow and arrows, um, but that's like if you're spanish well, I thought it was l bone, l bone, yeah, the l bone that's like the laughing bone, but then also l bone oh like, oh, like the bone yeah, yeah well that one needs to be moisturized for sure, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2:

Well, you've taken care of that already right, yeah, you can't have an ashy helmet. Back to you, james.

Speaker 3:

James, as you were saying you don't want to over-lotion down there though. No, yeah, no.

Speaker 1:

What happens if you over-lotion it? Well, you can't.

Speaker 3:

Well, because then it can get Well one. It gets residue, and then you don't want that chemicals.

Speaker 2:

If you're with your lady friend, he doesn't want to say it because he's a gentleman. You get too much sebum.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you do actually get the sebum's out of control Really. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 1:

Is that what they call, and we can edit this out, but at least I can beep it out duck butter, is that? Is that a bad thing to talk about? Oh, what's? I don't know about that, that's not the stuff that's like under your testicles or something oh, am I making that up?

Speaker 2:

I've never had it, so I wouldn't know, I don't know, I wouldn't know. There is definitely a clinical name for it.

Speaker 1:

All the men are in this room are denying that they've ever had. I've, but.

Speaker 2:

I've never had Maybe dirty men that live under the streets.

Speaker 1:

Probably yeah, are there men that live under the streets.

Speaker 3:

Are under highway passes. Yeah and the mole people. Oh and the mole people.

Speaker 1:

yeah, yeah, I'm sorry, I can't let you get away with anything. By the way, it's too. It's ingrained in our relationship.

Speaker 2:

We don't let anything pass.

Speaker 1:

No, no, out a bit when we're in a fight, it's good to do that, though, yeah that's good, you keep. Keep things light, you know or what's your other favorite thing.

Speaker 2:

You'll go uh oh, in the middle of an argument, I'll just, I'll just turn over, I'll just go, we'll be right back, I'll just like look at the wall or something, just to try every time. Yeah, yeah all right.

Speaker 1:

And then also, by getting um, by getting a facial, you're releasing, you're relieving stress. I don't know releasing anything on my table? Um, you're, but it's gonna lower the cortisol in your body, because do you know about cortisol?

Speaker 3:

remember the beginning? No, nothing, okay, well, cortisol cortisol is more of a body thing okay so like um people get cortisol I don't take care of my body either, oh perfect okay, so you're I'm married, I'm a dad, I'm a teacher.

Speaker 1:

When I'm telling jokes, I I have no time to care about this so you're filled with cortisol, though it sounds like if you have kids and a wife and you're teaching and yeah, so like because it's stress. Stress induces a hormone in your body that's called cortisol oh, oh, that's what that is, yeah oh, I got a lot of that I got it by the bucket.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you should have just said it that way. I'm sorry, I should have led with that. Yeah, oh, I got a lot of that. I got it by the buckets. You should have just said it that way.

Speaker 1:

I'm sorry I should have led with that. Yeah, yeah. How many kids do you have?

Speaker 3:

I have four kids.

Speaker 1:

Holy shit, I had no idea.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, four kids. You look like a very young man having four kids. I was just going to say that, yeah, you don't look as stressed out as a person with four kids would normally look, I usually ignore them.

Speaker 1:

That's good, that's the key.

Speaker 2:

Your skin looks great, so keep doing what you're doing. Yeah, if you have kids, yeah.

Speaker 1:

Aw, that's so nice. That's what makes you who you are, though You're a very child guy.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I know, I love my kids.

Speaker 1:

Although you could be in one of the categories, they're out into another place.

Speaker 3:

It all comes rushing out oh, I am a gemini, so there are two sides people like to point that out.

Speaker 1:

All the time.

Speaker 3:

Okay, I'm like what do you mean?

Speaker 1:

yeah yeah.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, I'm a sagittarius, so people have called me a horse's ass many times I'd like to shoot you with an arrow as well, yeah, I shoot myself. I shoot myself on my own hoof very often was that number four already?

Speaker 1:

uh, I lost. I don't know how to count. All right, well, let's go to the next one. Um, we did that one. Okay, wait a second. Let's go back to this for just one second. You said normalize it?

Speaker 2:

oh, so you mentioned earlier and I want to ask this question yeah, because guys don't know. Typically, like you know, if you go into a place to get it done right, it's going to money, because that's just what it does you know, when you pay for art. That's, that's what you do and um did you like that was? That good. Well, I am an artiste it's really good.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, I like it, I'm listening. Thank you, thank you.

Speaker 1:

By the way, I'm an assistant. I don't know if you need that, that's I've watched.

Speaker 3:

I've watched some episodes are you subscribed? Okay, you've possibly liked it. I liked it because I liked it.

Speaker 2:

Whoa dude. Yeah, that's a lot of pressure on us. You should don't tell us you really like us. I'm just gonna say I mean I'll watch more maybe change my mind.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's true. Yeah, just yeah, don't go too far. It was a quick response, yeah, yeah, yeah, you got it loaded in the chamber, just in case what were you gonna say?

Speaker 2:

uh, you know, I was gonna say, uh, guys don't know typically, like what to go look for. Like you know, I would say, maybe, you know, I wouldn't know. So if somebody, like, if somebody goes into like a, like same, I'm the same thing with cars like I know enough. But if somebody says I need a piston shearing, I'll be like, oh my god, shear the pistons. What's that gonna cost? They're like oh, it runs about 1500. I'm like, oh, man, you know, now you can look online or whatever, but still, you know, I need to get some information, like how much would you typically spend or what do you need? Just to get in there and just to make yourself feel like you took care of yourself and you don't look like just a ball of shit.

Speaker 3:

You know, I've heard people say that I would feel overwhelmed by it, like you know, when you go get your car oil changed, like you're saying. And then they're like, like you know, when you go get your card oil change, like you're saying, and then they're like you need this and this and like I'm not a car guy, so I'm like I guess you better do all that today, because I need the car to work tomorrow yeah, oh my god, get to work already, like thank god I made it here.

Speaker 3:

God dang so glad I made it to the jiffy lube today. I didn't know, I almost died, that's what they call me the jiffy lube do they really?

Speaker 2:

no, oh okay, I think it's like peanut butter and oil, I don't know.

Speaker 1:

It just came out, alex, I don't, it just came out. Um well, I was gonna bring.

Speaker 3:

James was saying something oh, what, oh, so, yeah, so like, uh, how would you? I would feel overwhelmed, going somewhere like of, like what, what do I need? Or what's the most effective way, because it all feels foreign to me, like the. So I think the normalizing it would be good, because then I would know what to even ask for and where to even go, if you're a man, you're walking into a spa, I would say just ask for a deep cleansing facial.

Speaker 1:

It's very basic cleansing, exfoliating extractions, a mask, maybe some massage back of the neck, stuff like that. Um, a lot of times, though, women underestimate men, or they get them right on the nose because they men don't know which one to pick, so they call it a sports facial oh oh interesting I always thought that was so insulting to men like yeah, no it's not.

Speaker 3:

I mean, yeah, I guess I was like I'll sign, I'm climbing up for the sports.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, yeah, right well, they have that place where you cut your hair called Sports Clips, do you Like? Why would you ever call it?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, it's like, okay guys, I go to Sports Clips.

Speaker 2:

Do you really?

Speaker 3:

Yeah, that's my place, I go.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, see.

Speaker 3:

Well, I live in Lancaster, so I go to sports clubs. That's where I go. I've never heard of it.

Speaker 2:

My mom worked at Fantastic Sam's for a number of years after she had her own place, and I never once met a Sam in that place, dude, let alone fantastic.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, it was more like it was marvelous, but that's not the point. Yeah, I met a lot of mediocre mics, but never a fantastic. That's what they should have called it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, mediocre mics. That's what we go to on the weekends Open mics.

Speaker 2:

Open mics? Yeah, the mediocre ones.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

But we just put sports in front of anything You're saying. It makes sense complete sports clips. If you put sport in front of a car, they have sport minivans and you're like what's that? And they're like it's a way to sell things. We put letters on the car that say sport and be yeah, I'll do it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it works. It feels more manly. Yeah, a lot of times men's facials also may or may not be slightly shorter than a woman's facial, just because maybe we're not sure that you're going to want to commit a whole hour to this.

Speaker 2:

Women take longer to finish. I've heard that it's very true.

Speaker 3:

Why does that sound so familiar? That sounds-.

Speaker 1:

Ask your wife.

Speaker 2:

Oh, skincare familiar that sounds, ask your wife oh, skincare, yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, 20 to 40 minutes so are you saying like they, you know, they typically that because men typically don't know, or they're just like okay, you know because they don't know what they don't know like the facials take longer or they take longer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, okay, generally, I mean it's changing. Now more and more men are starting to get facials. Um, I have more and more male clientele, which is nice.

Speaker 3:

Um, and did you break out? Like different, like sense, like, oh, like, for women it's lavender and this, but when it's the guy's like, well, this is my leather collection sandalwood sandalwood actually, yes, okay, yeah, yeah, men love, I love, I should have brought that one. It works yeah.

Speaker 1:

And it's, yeah, it's woodsy.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, Mm-hmm, there is something about like so much about wood. That's the reason why I really enjoy going into Home Depot.

Speaker 3:

I smell the lumber. The first thing. I don't even want to build anything, but.

Speaker 2:

I like the smell of wood, yeah, totally.

Speaker 3:

Absolutely. They should make skincare line for men, to just call it lumber. Oh see, that's good. Okay, now I'm. Now you're selling me right. Okay, I'm glad we stopped at number four guys. Yeah, I feel this is this. Number four is the tipping point for me.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, before I was entertaining you now. I'm now, I'm in it, now you're learning okay well, what if we told you you could invest in lumber right now? Like number five is just a pitch for lumber.

Speaker 3:

This was all a ploy. Yeah, this is where the meeting transitions for a mere ten thousand dollars this. This is how they get you in cults. Yes, yeah, they promise you like uh familiar fragrances yeah, and then, you're like and you could get it on the ground floor yeah and lumber also go in there and tell someone all your dirtiest confessions.

Speaker 1:

You're yeah, yeah, you're gonna hold two cologne bottles instead of cans.

Speaker 2:

I don't know, it's a scientologist too, oh yeah yeah, that's right, and then you have to like one of them has to be inserted into your body and you have to record it on video and then if you say anything, people they'll put that video out. Yeah, yeah, it's just like you know, like friends, you know, like when you had to enter any like when you enter into any business you're supposed to give somebody something to blackmail you by, just in case it's a ditty party.

Speaker 1:

It's a ditty party, no, not a dinner party A ditty party, oh a ditty party. A ditty dinner party. That's the next level, diddy just called them dinner parties.

Speaker 2:

Everybody else called them a ditty party. He just called them parties get together okay you know. And then all this illegal shit was happening. Isn't that crazy? To him, it was just like a normal thing but did has anyone?

Speaker 3:

I thought, what if did? He was just what if he was just going to bed early and everyone else was having the party?

Speaker 2:

it just was happening. Oh my god that's a really good point as a property owner, I should not like dude.

Speaker 3:

That's true my my wife and I will have people over and she just sneaks off and it's like that that irish goodbye, just goes to bed.

Speaker 1:

So she's not responsible.

Speaker 3:

It's happening what if diddy? What if diddy's in bed by 8 30?

Speaker 2:

oh my god, I just thought about something. Is that why some people not me have issue with irish, because they're always just skirting responses? They're like I gotta get out of here and they just kind of walk away and it's like yeah where the hell's mclanahan?

Speaker 1:

I gotta wash his dishes why, am I washing the dishes? These are his. It's his kitchen, you know and mclanahan. I'll tell you he's anyway, I'm sorry I got sidetracked by the irish I was just trying to figure out a way to work in the golden girls but but I couldn't do it.

Speaker 2:

Oh, that's perfect. You just did. Yeah, lou McClanahan, nice, yeah, but it didn't work.

Speaker 1:

It didn't work Sometimes, just stating what you were going to say I know, I'm just telling you all the joke I wanted to tell.

Speaker 3:

I'm going to figure out how to talk about golf, but now that we're here, yeah yeah, yeah, all right.

Speaker 1:

And then cortisol can also cause breakouts. It can make you have stomach fat, it can make you have cortisol face is that why? I'm fucking fat well, I don't, okay, I can't even I was trying not to cuss, but it felt so good just there.

Speaker 2:

Well, it was the alliteration, do I?

Speaker 3:

just need a facial. Is that what is why I'm the heaviest I've ever been in, I think, but I've never had a facial.

Speaker 1:

Maybe that's it lymphatic drainage. I learned.

Speaker 3:

I've never had a facial. Maybe that's it, it could be lymphatic drainage.

Speaker 2:

I've learned that too, oh man.

Speaker 1:

Oh yeah, that's right. That's another good point. That wasn't one of the reasons, but just the lymphatic drainage alone. It helps to de-puff, and so we're pushing the sort of stagnant lymph that's in the skin out down and into all of it.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, you said jolly, but I heard jolly yeah is that because I'm kind of against anna claus right now. I think I think, however, it sounds good to you.

Speaker 2:

Yeah I mean, I think that I think the jowls can be jolly, that's you can have jolly, jolly jowls yeah, totally sometimes, because I know for me, like when I like, even if I lose some weight, I still will have what's called no separation between my like, like right over here.

Speaker 1:

I'm going to help you with that. It just looks like one solid. Yeah, I'm going to help you with that.

Speaker 2:

Like, if you don't, believe in geometry and angles.

Speaker 1:

Look at my face. All you have to do is put the tongue to the roof of your mouth and see the difference. Well, you have a beard, so, and you kind of have one too.

Speaker 3:

Well, that's why I have a beard. So, and you kind of have one too. Well, that's why I have a beard, because if I don't have a beard, this looks like a can of busted biscuits.

Speaker 2:

This is to give myself a face, I like it, that sounds like something I would want to put my head against. So you know what I mean If you had like a can of busted biscuits.

Speaker 3:

You just described me and my wife's first date.

Speaker 1:

That's right there that's so nice see you were there for each other.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, busted biscuits. That's her bedroom name.

Speaker 1:

For me that's not a bad name, right that's hilarious whenever you're ready to bust it, just do it okay biscuits come here all right. The last one is kind of I don't know, it's confidence boost, because we kind of talked about that. But when you're not just taking care of yourself, but when your skin looks better, you're going to feel better.

Speaker 3:

I like how confidence boost was the one you sounded the least confident saying.

Speaker 2:

That's hilarious I guess Confidence boost, I don't know how I feel about this one I feel like it could have ended on a bigger uh crescendo, but it's so oh, because, far as being like one of the main, one of the five reasons men should, or it's in best interest to get uh facial or take care of the skin, is because the confidence boosts right that could have been number one I feel like it could have been number one because it wasn't like a physical thing.

Speaker 2:

Right. And then number five could have been like you have, you know, taking money out of your wallet. Sometimes it's too heavy, you know, so let's just get rid of it. I see why I think.

Speaker 3:

I see why you'd have it number five, though, because that's the long okay one of the long-term effects right that you would want.

Speaker 1:

I can see why it'd be number five and first impressions when you're meeting someone in a business meeting or an interview or even dating, things like that like your first impression if somebody's looking at your face and you look busted?

Speaker 2:

yeah, I've been busted, but yeah if somebody looks at you and they call you puffy and you're not ditty, then it's probably you have a puffy face. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3:

So you have puffy face, which is just sex trafficking. I told you that story before the cameras rolled. I didn't know you were going to share it.

Speaker 2:

Well, here's the thing no one was going to know, but now they know because you implicated yourself.

Speaker 1:

Don't say those two words together again, because I'm probably going to have to believe it now. The S and T words together, because YouTube's pretty, they're pretty sensual, sensual trafficking yes, is that? Yeah, we're talking about turtles, soft turtles. Thank you, I said it wrong.

Speaker 2:

I don't know French that well oh my gosh, that's amazing that was.

Speaker 3:

I love this town is that. Are they doing facials in the next room? Yeah, we just watched the two.

Speaker 1:

I don't know if they were, if they were, if they were trans, if they were super tall.

Speaker 2:

If they were in a 60s band. They were beautiful people.

Speaker 1:

I couldn't see their faces. I just saw the outfits.

Speaker 3:

I was into it, whatever it was, I was too.

Speaker 1:

We all just went like Whoa.

Speaker 3:

I was like If that's where the facials Are happening.

Speaker 1:

I'm gonna go After this.

Speaker 3:

That would make sense, if.

Speaker 2:

I could just walk.

Speaker 3:

To a few steps from this meeting right now to get a facial. Yeah, oh yeah, totally I would do it.

Speaker 2:

Convenience for guys, I think. And also you don't have to go out and spend a bunch of money on this kind of stuff too. You can get the basics and take care of yourself at home. But going out to do it, do a little research and then you can know what to get or not, typically if it's an like an hour.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Is it like a facial and if you, if you're like relaxed enough to go to sleep, they're doing a good job, yeah.

Speaker 3:

So you know, you brought up a good point Like so how would someone, especially since I don't know anything, how would I even know, other than, of course, calling you, because you'd be my first person? But if, if they don't know you, how would a guy find or look for for, like a quality person to go to, because I'm sure there's so many places to go that are crappy? And then if you get a crap experience, then you know, then you never want to go back.

Speaker 1:

You can start at like one of those corporate places like burke, williams or something like that, and they'll just give you like a very basic european spa facial okay yeah, you can kind of count on them for that.

Speaker 3:

They're not going to go over and above I think it's great that you think I know where any of these places are, because I know. But now that you said that I'm going to watch this later and I'll know to look up that name and then when you drive by them.

Speaker 2:

You'll be like oh, you'll like because, that's what happened to me. I was like Burke Williams. I was like oh, I thought this was a paint place for the longest time, but clearly it was Sherwin Williams.

Speaker 3:

I get my hair done at sports clips.

Speaker 2:

I don't know other burgers, it's sports smash it's a sports smash burger yeah, the baseball bat that sounds good, smash it.

Speaker 3:

You made me hungry, oh my god, me too the biscuits in the, in the burgers.

Speaker 1:

Okay, all right, we're gonna wrap this up. So, bonus segment skincare myth or fact.

Speaker 3:

I'm gonna read these to you, okay the whole show could have been this I love myth or or fact. Okay, we're going to start.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so don't look. You can't look at my notes.

Speaker 3:

I've never looked at anything. It's a giant screen, I know Just focus on Sandro. Okay, so I'm going to say a statement You're either going to say it's true or it's just total BS.

Speaker 1:

All right, men don't need moisturizer because their skin is oilier false Total. Bs. That's right, that's a myth. Oily skin definitely still needs hydration, because it needs to keep it regulated. Gotcha Shaving acts as an exfoliant, and so men don't need to exfoliate separately.

Speaker 2:

I'm going to say myth, BS, bullshit.

Speaker 3:

It sounds so true, though, because otherwise you sound like you're. I mean, at least for that portion of your face. I'm going to say myth, bs, bullshit. It sounds so true, though, because otherwise you sound like you're.

Speaker 1:

I mean, at least for that portion of your face, oh yeah yeah, yeah, I'm going to make you both right, because it's half myth, half truth. It's going to remove dead skin, which is great, because we do.

Speaker 3:

I like compliments? Yeah, exactly it works.

Speaker 2:

It was nice.

Speaker 1:

Dermoplaning is what women do, but you guys are actually shaving, but you are getting the dead skin around this area, but not so much, maybe, around here, because you're not shaving your forehead unless you're, you have hirsutism or whatever well, I mean, you haven't met my in-laws, so where I come from, my people, my people all right. Using bar soap on your face is okay uh, yeah, I don't that's no, it's disgusting, okay, I didn't even give james it's because.

Speaker 3:

Is it because the last thing someone else washed and then the first thing?

Speaker 1:

I'm washing wow, that's another move. I hadn't even thought about that.

Speaker 3:

It's not self-cleaning those soap bars no, they certainly are not. No, I'm a gel fan, I mean I'm, I'm, I'm a sports clubs guy, but but I mean I, I, I'm not a monster I use bath gel.

Speaker 1:

Okay, so a bar soap, as you can imagine it's going to. It's going to make your skin so dry, like that squeaky, and it takes up all the natural oils and it leaves it in a different weird um, it takes the moisture barrier off your skin, which you don't want, because it takes a while for it to get back. All right, men's skin is different from women's so they need different products.

Speaker 2:

I would think that's true. That makes sense.

Speaker 1:

Yes, men's skin is generally oilier and thicker, so there are certain things that are going to work better for a man's skin and you can ask your local esthetician.

Speaker 3:

That's why I've never taken insults because I have thick skin and you don't want to ruin that you don't want to ruin it.

Speaker 1:

No, because it'll thin it out all right, drinking more water alone is going to clear up your skin alone?

Speaker 3:

no, I think it helps, but not alone, right?

Speaker 1:

I think it helps same thing, yeah but yeah, hydration definitely helps and most of the men I know are completely dehydrated. You have some good hints in the phrasings of these questions I'm like all right.

Speaker 3:

I feel like you're telling me in between the lines.

Speaker 1:

Yes, yes, yes, yes, I'm trying to get it into your brain.

Speaker 2:

It's like doing the at-home driving course. It's like the answers are in the question bro.

Speaker 1:

Is that true?

Speaker 2:

They're so easy, man.

Speaker 1:

So they're so easy, man, why did I fail? Three times yeah, I don't know, I have no idea. Oh, that was actual driving. Yes, yeah, all right, so um.

Speaker 2:

Should I ask james the question?

Speaker 1:

well, first of all, thank you so much for coming I just, yeah, that's a good move.

Speaker 3:

Yeah, yeah, thank you so much for having me. This is fun, you're fantastic. This is one of our first of the shorter episodes that we're doing I'm glad I was the first to be like we don't need to talk to him that long.

Speaker 1:

I thought you were going to say I'm glad, because I didn't really want to be here at all.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, well, that's what I was going to say. Okay, good.

Speaker 1:

But now.

Speaker 2:

And now I'm going to ask you a serious question. Where do people find you on social media?

Speaker 3:

Okay, yeah, so I'm on Instagram and it at James Graves comedy on Instagram and that's crazy, ves, ves.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, yep, alrighty. Well, thank you again for being here. I hope to see you soon on a show.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely yeah, and I like this episode was it was condensed, but we, there was a lot of good we we put everything, all the energy into that, elongating it Exactly Okay, so shut up.

Speaker 1:

Shut up. Okay, all right. So this is going to be at Wednesday at 3 am, and we'll see you guys next week. Bye.

Speaker 2:

Bye, anyways, so let's talk a little more, okay, oh good.

People on this episode