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Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Ep. 110 What Happens When a Tattooed Man Does Your Lips?
Meet Kostas, the tattooed permanent makeup artist breaking stereotypes with his exceptional lip blushing technique. When he first appears on screen, covered in tattoos, you might not expect him to be the mastermind behind natural-looking, beautiful lip enhancements. But that unexpected contrast is exactly what makes his story so compelling.
Kostas shares his journey into the beauty industry, beginning when his wife Daria needed help with her booming business. His first attempt at lip blushing was a disaster – "I destroyed her lips completely," he admits candidly. Rather than giving up, this former athlete analyzed what went wrong and developed his own revolutionary technique that prioritizes gentle application and natural results.
What makes his approach special is the meticulous attention to detail, particularly the corners of the lips which many artists overlook. He creates a subtle gradient effect, with more color on the outside gradually fading inward, giving a natural 3D appearance. The procedure involves careful numbing, precise outlining of natural borders, and typically three gentle passes to avoid traumatizing the skin.
Beyond lip blushing, Kostas reveals his expertise in organ massage, a specialized technique he learned from Russian practitioners. This isn't just abdominal massage but targeted work on specific organs to remove stagnation and toxins. He claims to have improved his own liver health dramatically through this practice and notes the fascinating connection between organ health and emotional wellbeing.
Listen now to discover how this unexpected beauty expert is transforming the industry with his unique blend of artistry, technical skill, and holistic understanding of the body. Follow Kostas on Instagram at Golden Brows for permanent makeup and Angel Organ Sanctuary for organ massage services.
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Speaker 2:This is part two I do love the idea of like married or like partner couples that basically just like turn into one giant badass.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And just do stuff together.
Speaker 2:It's a good teamwork.
Speaker 3:It's a nice story. They call us power.
Speaker 4:Couple of permanent makeup yeah, we inspired, a lot of couples actually yeah there were a lot of like people like joining forces and permanent yeah, a lot of a lot of clients.
Speaker 3:They finish the class and then next week they bring the husband. Well, see, you're the first man I've, okay, so we're going to talk about today, we're going to talk.
Speaker 1:They finish the class and then next week they bring the husband. So funny. Well see, you're the first man I've Okay, so we're going to talk about Today, we're going to talk about with Costas, we're going to talk about lip blushing and other things, but he did mine. You've done mine three times now, I think.
Speaker 3:Three yearly I don't know.
Speaker 1:We did one and then.
Speaker 3:Maybe two yearlies and then follow up and then one yearly.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, um, and I sorry I wore lipstick today, but you know yeah, I know I didn't want to hurt your feelings, but but they look.
Speaker 3:But we do natural results. That's why you can put also your lipstick whenever you are.
Speaker 2:That's that's a very good point too, because it doesn't look.
Speaker 4:You look natural all the time, then you put it on, you just look like someone who puts on right no, I have lipstick too I know, but I said that the same for my wife.
Speaker 3:We're doing, we try to do natural, we specialize in natural results. We want you, when you go outside, we want you to add a little bit, if you want. Yeah, you look very natural, when we wake up, you don't need to do anything. You go for your coffee, your business.
Speaker 4:But if you want to go outside, or you want to to enjoy, you know, dinner, or and this, you can add, of course, of course, but it would be nice to hear actually your opinion on this topic, because you are enjoying the, uh, the our product.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, yeah uh, I was not attracted to her before at all, and now because I know something about her lips I don't know what it is, but uh no, you look fantastic and I noticed it like even when you have the procedure, you go in the day and you come out. I don't want to skip ahead what you're talking about, but that's okay. She comes back and obviously there's some discomfort, like any procedure you have, but it's worth it because of what you're getting out of it and the confidence you feel like and I can kind of tell you carry yourself differently.
Speaker 2:It made my lips look bigger and you make it look yeah right, yeah, it fills them out basically yeah, but you didn't have any. You weren't like complaining, you weren't like it almost looked, it just looked like they're a little bit puffy.
Speaker 1:I was happy to have them puffy. I'm sure you heard that before.
Speaker 3:Like yeah, people wish they were dead Always. They said you, they're going to stay like this Day seven.
Speaker 1:I'm like, yeah, they just stay like this and just hold on to it, trying to eat a lot of salt and retain water.
Speaker 3:Yeah, then we will close. All the people that are doing the fillers, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Actually, you should add that to your repertoire now. Do the little filler afterwards and be like all, right now we can fill you up a little bit.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I was in one facebook group and everybody asked you know, like back then, oh, should I say to the clients first fillers and then per my makeup, first for my makeup and first and then fillers. Everybody say first per my makeup and then fillers, first per my makeup and then fill. The first time. I say no, no, no, no, why it doesn't make sense first fillers and then per minute.
Speaker 3:I say why because if the guy you know with the fillers messed up, then they were playing with, they blame me with my permanent makeup after his work no, he has to do the perfect fillers and then I will do colors, because what I'm doing for your natural lips I'm putting I color your lips, your natural lips, if your lips look like this.
Speaker 2:They continue to look like this, but with beautiful color Right, right, right. If your lips they have the perfect yes, this is my business.
Speaker 3:My business is to do beautiful color for your lips. If your lips are beautiful, we're going to have beautiful lips with beautiful color. If your lips are ugly or you don't have lips or the guy with the filler, look like this you're going to look like this with beautiful color.
Speaker 1:Yeah, with beautiful color. Yeah, with beautiful color. Yeah, by the way, if you're listening and not watching, costas is covered in tattoos, and when I first came into this I had no idea. I was just like, oh, it's First of all a man. I was surprised that it was a man that was going to do my fillers, covered in tattoos. I mean, you look like. Jay Lee like uh, you've walked right out of a movie. I don't know like what movie does he look like he came out of cape fear, cape fear.
Speaker 2:Oh, that's a fantastic movie also I could see you as like, really just in like, in like a fast and not fast and fury, uh, mad max, oh that's fury road, just like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, for sure, thank you, by the way, if if you're looking for an actor. Costas is also an actor as well, yeah. So okay. So when you did my lips, I've noticed more and more that you do shading right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we don't work into your skin. We try, you know like, to pack with a lot of shading color. The more gentle, the more. I will tell you my story. So when we came here, daria, after a couple of months, she told me you know like we are so busy. You know like, can you jump in the industry? Because I did my business with my phone, I was so bored, you know like all that stuff. So I have time to work with her. So she asked me to help her and do special the lips, because it's the difficult procedure of the permanent makeup. Yeah, so I, I learn you know the the lips. They teach me I did.
Speaker 3:You know like, one procedure with one beautiful lady, I destroy her lips completely. One gorgeous woman, russian lady, I destroy her lips. A couple of days later, I, I think we figure out. She came back to the office. We figured out that she did completely wrong. Um, aftercare, I work exactly how they teach me. I was so scared because it was so beautiful and it was very bad experience for me. So I analyzed a little bit with my wife. I said I will never do lips again in my life it's traumatizing I.
Speaker 3:You cannot imagine. I said to the lady I will pay anything you want just to fix your lips again. I'm not doing it again.
Speaker 4:I was scared it was my first bad experience.
Speaker 3:Oh my god so because of my personality sports, my whole life and fighting and all that stuff I could. I didn't want to to give up. So one day, daria, she was in vegas for conference and I said to my face bring me one beautiful model from instagram. I want to do her lips. So I sit down and I analyze a little bit in my head and I say what they teach you. They told me back then lips hurt. I don't want to hurt my client. Lips bleed. I don't want to see blood. You need to stretch. I don't want to stretch too much. Um, your client will hurt. I don't want to hurt here. So I did opposite. Whatever they teach me back then, and I did so I.
Speaker 3:I took some amazing results for my model for this client. So I text the picture to daria and she said to me oh, you should go to here, you know like and learn. You know like, permanent makeup list from here. I said I, I didn't learn from here, it's my work, it's my second work, you know, in this model. So I create the technique by myself, you know like, I figure out by myself how I will work on the client. So I took more classes, especially from Russia, because over there I think is the best of the best.
Speaker 1:They have great lips in Russia. Russian ladies have like the best lips. They're more advanced.
Speaker 3:For the beauty, it's Russia. Everything starts from there. I love Russia, I love everybody, but Russia is the high quality for the beauty special. So this was my beginning. I try to push myself and not give up. I found my technique slowly, slowly, I advance, I advance, I advance. And today we are doing so, gentle, and we work very, very, very light for natural results.
Speaker 1:Do you do? Okay?
Speaker 3:so when I come in you, you put the numbing cream on me for like 20 minutes I'm putting your numbing, the numbing cream for 20-25 minutes, but you have to understand the numbing cream before we open the skin. It will not work so good right we just want the first pass to be a little bit fast so we open the skin with the first pass when I, when I, when I'm doing your outline right and then we did, we put the different numbing that it will work much, much stronger and will help you not feeling pain.
Speaker 3:Right to continue the procedure, and I'm I'm doing only three passes and after each pass I numb you again right so you feel comfortable for the next pass yeah comfortable for the next pass. I'm doing only three passes. I don't want to traumatize your lips, I don't want to overwork, I don't want to damage your skin and I'm doing only with three passes.
Speaker 1:It's not like it's not something I would choose to do if I didn't have to, but like it's not so uncomfortable that I wouldn't come back. I mean, I would do it every year if I had to. You know absolutely.
Speaker 2:It's totally worth it. Is that what some people do, Like? Do they try to do a lot in one sitting because they don't want to come back? No, no, no. Or people don't want to come back.
Speaker 3:It's not about the client, it's about the artist Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah. Some artists. They think that if the more you hurt the skin and the more blood you have, the less results you will have.
Speaker 2:Oh right, Exactly so you are permanent makeup artist. I will be after the show because I'm learning a lot. You took a class.
Speaker 3:So exactly what you said the blood pushed the pigment out. Okay, and the old, old ways they were all like yeah, going and deeper and like and like.
Speaker 4:The industry changed completely the fast the past like 10 years. Everything switched to more natural, to less is more, you know like, and they're actually.
Speaker 1:The results are lasting and staying good mine lasted the first time for like three years.
Speaker 3:Yeah because we work on the first layers of the skin. We don't try to pack color inside. We don't hurt the lips and we don't hurt the muscle, because for the lips we have also muscle. If we hurt the muscle, we have swollenness. When we have swollenness, we will go deeper and we will have more blood. So it's the package of everything we need to protect the lips, the skin, to have better results.
Speaker 1:How do you know what type of lips, like you say? You came in and looked at me, yeah, and then did you. I don't know if you drew on me with anything.
Speaker 3:Always, always. First of all, we will put the numbing cream. I will not pre-draw before, I will not pre-draw before. I will put numbing cream and then I will pre-draw and found your natural borders. A lot of artists, old artists, they like to work also outside of your natural borders. Because the client maybe they ask you know, like for thicker lips, oh, can I have bigger lips and all that stuff? No, my love, because when we it's completely different skin the lips and completely different the skin outside of your lips, so they will heal completely different yeah so for the people that are working outside of the lips, we have experience and we are doing removal for these clients.
Speaker 3:They came to us to do removal for that, yes. So first I will put the nummy cream and then I will pre-draw to find your natural borders. You will approve the beautiful shape and then I will work exactly on this shape first the outline and then the shade inside but you do a really good job on the bottom lip too, because the bottom lip is um.
Speaker 1:There's shading in the corners too, right?
Speaker 3:first of all. First of all, I'm doing very good job for both lips. I will not do one lip.
Speaker 1:One looks good, one don't know. So yes, something else you.
Speaker 3:You point something very important the corners. A lot of people, they work very nice for both lips, but they don't give attention to the corners. Yeah, so I'm working very nice for my borders, I'm working very nice my shade, but my very, very end. I'm doing three passes and then the fourth pass. It's only details and what I'm doing on the details, I'm going to the corners. Too much beautiful the corners and how much inside.
Speaker 3:Further in I will put the, the color it gives it like a 3d effect yes, right, we like to do this more from outside to inside, like more color, and slowly, slowly, fade to inside we would draw it like with makeup exactly and then did.
Speaker 1:Then did you do like right down the center, like a little bit more, just like the line down, or it was just. Was. I just feeling that, because I know sometimes no sometimes maybe it doesn't take so good the color. Maybe I will work.
Speaker 3:Some spots, some spots are a little bit more difficult. Some spots they don't take so much the color. Some other spots they take so easy the color. It depends. I don't know what I will see with the client. Sometimes I have the experience to see the beautiful lips that they will take so easy the color and I was surprised they don't take so easy the color. Sometimes, you know, like I see a little bit difficult, oily skin, not very nice lips. They take the color amazing. But usually when you see you know dry, thick, beautiful lips they will take it like this yeah, interesting the dry skin is the best for permanent makeup.
Speaker 1:Okay, so that's really good to know yeah, so the drier your skin the better, so just treat your skin like shit Absorb the color and holding it on Okay.
Speaker 4:Oily skin pushes the pigment, so I was going to ask that question.
Speaker 2:So is there anything diet-wise? You tell people not to have, or before they go in Diet. Like anything that like if it's oily skin usually it's.
Speaker 4:you know what their people are eating sometimes and whatnot Is there anything to no, we don't go in such a, so I could come in and eat all the ice cream I want and then have the procedure.
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, no problem. That's all he wanted to know. That's all I want to know.
Speaker 2:Because if you can eat the ice cream.
Speaker 1:That's one of the reasons. Eyebrow anything but um. But that doesn't mean I'm gonna donate my eyebrows have good results.
Speaker 3:We have some clients, oily clients, and we said you know, like it will never stay like it will never stay and we start the first pass and you already you know like have 50 of the other color over there you never know sometimes the skins. You know, like you see, that the skin love the pigment. They hold the pigment, yeah, but in general the dry skin is the beautiful, like a russian and asian skin that are amazing yeah, for permanent small pores.
Speaker 1:Suck it in the best. Yeah, okay, cool. So how long have you been doing this again?
Speaker 3:I'm doing nine now. Nine years like one year after we came here and daria start with it, not even why. 10 years, yeah, like six months after Daria start here. The business actually he started back in Greece his he it wasn't his career, but he was doing tattoo removals back in Greece well, I will tell you what I did because, like I said, I'm the multi-talented, I'm doing everything. I'm doing acting, I'm doing boxing, I'm doing sales, I'm doing permanent makeup, I'm doing singing.
Speaker 2:I'm doing everything you're a renaissance man, I am the multi-talented.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah so how she, how she jumped in the industry.
Speaker 3:She started at the very, very beginning, 17 years back, with eyelash extension so she learned eyelash extension. This was her entrance to the beauty industry. So she came back from russia, from belarus, she learned the eyelash extension. She came to my country, in greece, and she said now I know, but nobody knows to do eyelash extension, how, how we will show to our clients. So she teach me and I put eyelash extension to her face, to her eyes so her clients can see the eyelashes and come to see them.
Speaker 4:So can you imagine this man here? I'm not kidding.
Speaker 1:Doing lash extensions the first time I saw him and I was like, are you?
Speaker 4:serious. That's where I knew he can become a good permanent makeup artist and I told him you should help me, and you should do it too, because he was so good in putting lashes like he he wasn't doing for a long time, because then I had the system and I had a person that I trained, so they started to do my lashes.
Speaker 4:But when, after years he didn't touch lashes, you know like. And then when we came here back to the United States, I'm like, okay, like in Greece they charge like $70 for eyelashes. In the US it's like $250. I'm like I'm not paying this much money.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, I have my husband doing it.
Speaker 3:You're doing my lashes Sometimes because you're a couple also, sometimes I talk to you don't be bitchy with me, just don't be bitch with me. You know, like Remember, go a little bit back and remember Kostas, I want you to learn eyelash extension Done Kostas. I want you to learn tattoo removal Done Kostas I want you to learn lips and permanent makeup and microblading. Done, kostas, I want you to deal with accountants Kostas.
Speaker 1:I want. I like your style. Don't be bitchy. Good for you. No, I have a personal personal makeup artist, stylist, massage therapist.
Speaker 4:I'm doing the organ massage.
Speaker 3:Whenever she wants to go in my spot, like, okay, you have 15 minutes, can I come a little bit? Yeah?
Speaker 2:that seems like a lot of like. I mean, I don't know what goes into the eyelash extension, but it seems like you have to be very patient with everything you're doing this is even more than permanent makeup intricate, like very just because even permanent makeup you have to be. You can't just rush it because an artist after.
Speaker 3:I was very lucky because she was so, so, so busy and popular with the microblading. We have thousands of students and thousands of models. So she told me you will do all the models when they come back for the touch-up. So I was very it was big opportunity for me to work in thousands of models for the touch-up. I have a very good experience I'm doing microblading. If I do microblading for my client, I'm the fastest microblading in the world and not damaging the skin with the perfect you just know what you're doing.
Speaker 3:I can do it with my eyes closed.
Speaker 2:Like half of precision.
Speaker 1:But don't Half of precision half of precision.
Speaker 4:I can do it with my eyes closed yeah I swear to god eyelash extension it's completely different man yeah, that's you need to focus so much but remember also when you first started doing microblading yes, now you reach this level. You know you feel comfortable with lashes too, like when I first started, I was shaking.
Speaker 3:My lashes is pain in the ass, yeah it's gotta be. Lashes is pain in the ass, man.
Speaker 1:I used to do my own lashes. I would do the individual lashes and I didn't tell you for about seven years. I wanted him to think that I had long lashes. I finally copped to it at some point.
Speaker 2:Well cause, at one point I found I found I was like oh wait, nikki's in bed. Why are eyelashes stuck to the medicine cabinet? She's not in the bed, she's not here. Why do I have eyelashes and I'm looking in the mirror?
Speaker 1:yeah, I would run into the bathroom when he was still in bed and I'd be like no one's on the end yeah, but then they turn around backwards and you know all that stuff.
Speaker 2:But yeah, whatever no, you look good, no matter what. Thank you, I know what to say. Yeah, he knows what to say exactly okay, okay.
Speaker 1:So I want to touch really quick on two things. I want to touch on what to expect right after you have your lip blushing, but then I just want to talk about your organ massage for a couple minutes before we wrap. Yes, so tell me, I would love to do this. Okay, so tell me about the after.
Speaker 3:Yeah, Exactly the opposite. Aftercare than eyebrows and eyeliner Exactly the opposite.
Speaker 3:Eyebr than eyebrows and eyeliner, exactly the opposite eyebrows eyeliner. We have dry healing for 10 days and we give you know like to the people the package you know like to to do whatever they need to do for the 10 days. Uh, the lips where they need to accept, expect that to be a little bit, you know like, fuller and a little bit you know like like you said. You know, oh, my god, I wish to be like this, you know like puffy and all that stuff A little bit, not too much. They need to do a moist 10 days after care.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:We give them something special, you know, like they use for their lips. But if they don't use this or we don't have to give them, or whatever they lost it or whatever the best thing to use is Aquaphor.
Speaker 1:Aquaphor is fantastic.
Speaker 3:Fantastic. You don't use neosporin, you don't use the other creams that they have not they are not bad creams, but it's not good for the open skin for your lips. They also make my lips peel exactly you don't want. You don't want antibiotics and all that creams. They have something.
Speaker 3:Aquaphor is the best 10 days moist with aquaphor 10, day 10, 10 times per day. What like? You wake up in the middle of the night to go to the, to the toilet, to the rest. Moist your lips like it's the most important. In day four, day five, your lips are gonna look gorgeous.
Speaker 3:In day 15, you will have the final color right now you said about the organ massage, and I'm so excited about this because I'm telling you, organ massage is the best thing you can have in your life and the most important thing, like I said to Daria yes, I am because I know what it is.
Speaker 3:I'm doing massage for my muscles because of the sports, my whole life, once per week, twice per week. Why am I doing it? Because I have so much inflammation, because I'm I'm working hard, I'm working out very hard, so I want to remove the inflammation from my muscles to feel better. I'm doing training the next day. So what I did? I sit my way. What I did for my organs 49 years? What I did for my organs 45 years?
Speaker 2:nothing stagnant, stagnant. So much stuff in there.
Speaker 3:If I don't touch my liver, if I don't massage my liver to my liver to bring blood flow and remove my toxins, if I don't touch my gut bladder to bring bile for my gut, if I don't touch and massage my gut and my small and large intense. I'm sorry with my English, my small and large intense. I'm sorry with my English, my small and large intense.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 3:How I will remove all that stuff that they stagnant all these years. So the most important thing is the organ massage and I said to my clients when they came also, if you want, you can do blood exams and check your kidneys and your liver levels and how they look, and then do it again two months after the organ massage, every week, and you will see the difference with the results, because I healed my liver me personally. I have always very high liver in my life.
Speaker 3:And the last six months. I have the best numbers in my life. So the most important thing is the organ massage. I recommend to everyone, everyone, organ massage, do you?
Speaker 1:do this out of your office too? Yes, oh, okay, good, oh, that's good to know, because I want to come see you. I also wanted to ask you too about that. Do you think, do you feel like people store a lot of emotion in their organs, so do you, do you see that?
Speaker 3:I touch my love. I start with the hands and then I go to the organs and then I go to the foot and I see all the combination you know like when I touch. You know like the blood, the blood the blood gut blotter here and when. I touch the gut blotter and the foot how I know the client, she will feel crazy sensitive with her gut blotter here. Yeah, so everything is connected. And when your organs doesn't work good, definitely the client.
Speaker 4:100% is emotional yeah affect everything you know how every actually you can tell by like talking with a person, like you can understand and scan like their like emotional state. You know like if they have problem with liver it's anger? Yes, you know like if they have what else, like I'm like now I cannot remember of the on top of the head anxiety stress.
Speaker 3:You know like like I'm working. I'm working with my client and I touch the spleen. I start doing a little bit massage for the spleen and the client feels uncomfortable. I say you feel uncomfortable? Yes, did you have antibiotics or ibuprofen the last 24 hours? Yes, I am with antibiotics, like I know what happened.
Speaker 2:When I touch their organs, I know what happened in their life.
Speaker 3:Wow, that's really amazing. Yeah, I don't know what happened in their life.
Speaker 1:Wow.
Speaker 3:That's really amazing yeah.
Speaker 1:I don't know why people haven't done this more.
Speaker 3:I'm telling you, it's new yeah. And it's the most important thing you can have I'm doing. If I say to the people, because I'm doing every week, I'm doing massage for my muscles, you know like I'm bringing massage in my house. So if you do one per week massage, you need twice per week your organs. This important is your organs.
Speaker 1:So how often would you recommend somebody does?
Speaker 3:First of all, I don't, I don't. If I don't touch you, I cannot recommend I touch. If I touch Daria, daria, she's eating all that stuff. She has the perfect organs. I'm doing her organ massage and I feel everything, I touch everything and she has the perfect organs. Another client I cannot even touch. I have to work one hour just to feel, to, to, to relax, to relax your muscles and relax when I touch you.
Speaker 4:I can tell you, but I can tell you.
Speaker 3:But I will tell you the other thing I'm doing Daria's massage, organ massage, and she has the perfect organs. And then three days later she has one meeting for the business and she's so stressful about the products that they will not arrive in time. The production here and all that. And the first thing that she asked for me is organ massage.
Speaker 3:The other thing that I will tell you that I'm so, so happy. My kids and I swear to God I never say lies my kids, I start to my eight-year-old son and to my four-year-old son, organ massage for three minutes when they have sensitive gut and they want to go to the restroom and all that stuff. Now, I swear to God, when they feel sensitive with their stomach, they came to me and they said daddy massage, daddy massage, I'm doing massage. In five minutes they are in the restroom, wow.
Speaker 1:I swear to God we're going to have to go over there next time we're constipated. Absolutely, we have to.
Speaker 2:My grandmother used to do all those things she learned back in the village, just like tapping stomach or whatever.
Speaker 4:Yes, self-massage.
Speaker 3:So it makes sense and it's like that's fascinating my office visit one of the, the owner of the the four. She has four clinics in the world Spain, Austria retreat medical facility like high end.
Speaker 1:So they are doing organ massage.
Speaker 3:They are doing organ massage in their clinic so I finished organ massage with her and I swear to God. She said I want you to come and train my staff. They are not doing what you are doing Because I learned from Russia and my teacher taught me that you cannot just touch the organs. I think you need to go. What is?
Speaker 4:different that Costas is doing. It's like he really tap in into your organs. It's not just abdominal massage.
Speaker 3:She speaks good.
Speaker 1:English.
Speaker 4:Some people do like your belly massage, lymphatic. You know drainage, so he's not only like moving the lymph.
Speaker 3:And it's amazing, even if you work, work, you know soft and all that stuff, but he tap in into the organs specifically, he spends time.
Speaker 4:It's like a one hour only organ massage.
Speaker 3:You know like focus on reflexology, you know he started with that, but like it's focused like I teach you also how you will breathe. So yeah, the way that I teach you how you breathe, you will allow me to go closer to your organ. I want to touch your organs. I want to remove the stagnant, I want to remove the toxins. I need to touch, I need to open a little bit your ribs, I need to give space over there for your organs to breathe and blood flow. You know like.
Speaker 1:Help us to remove all that stuff. We both need to see you.
Speaker 4:We do you know like, help us to remove all that stuff. We both need to see you. We do everyone. Everyone.
Speaker 2:This is fantastic we do have to wrap up yes for a second. I was going to say I want to go in and take your organs either way, as long as you remove them, it's a different show. Yeah, or harvest them, yeah, yeah but it makes sense that you want to the breathing to help people relax, so then you can get in closer yes so yeah, but let's do. We have to have them back again, because this I think we just touched.
Speaker 1:I told you they were going to be awesome.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know uh and then um. Can people find you at the same place?
Speaker 3:on social media. It's different social media I am. I mean the instagram, but it's the the same place. And the golden brows, golden brows start there for eyebrows lips lash you
Speaker 4:know, like the eyeliner, everything and then angel organ sanctuary, and that's on Instagram too.
Speaker 2:I think I just started following they want to check out his work. We're gonna put your information, everything at the bottom, so yeah well, thank you guys, so much for coming. Thank you, it was so fun.
Speaker 4:I really enjoyed it.
Speaker 3:It was fun. It's like a very, very natural conversation, very natural we went for dinner.
Speaker 4:you know, like we were talking about our stories, Except for I'm still hungry. We have a lot of stories If you want we can go more?
Speaker 1:Yeah, absolutely, we'll definitely have you back for sure, definitely All right, so this probably be out next week and then the week after, and they'll be out at 3 am For the East Coast crowd.
Speaker 2:For the East Coast crowd yeah, it gets up at 6.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and that's it. So we'll see you guys next week and take care, bye.
Speaker 2:Thank you Bye. Thank you Bye guys.
