Sex, Drugs and Skincare
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Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Skin Fungus is Among Us
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Ever wondered what's really behind those mysterious skin rashes, bumps, and flaky patches? Turns out, we're all walking around with fungi living on our bodies – and sometimes, they cause trouble. This episode takes you on a hilarious yet informative journey into the world of Malassezia, the fungus that inhabits 90% of human skin.
Four-time guest comedian Tammy Jo Dearon brings her signature wit to a surprisingly fascinating topic as we explore how these microscopic organisms can trigger everything from eczema to folliculitis when our immune systems overreact. We dive into the science of skin barriers, discussing how our protective layers can become compromised and what that means for our skin health. Tammy shares her personal experiences with fungal-related conditions, including how persistent treatment with ketoconazole finally helped regrow hair lost to alopecia.
The conversation weaves between serious skincare advice and laugh-out-loud moments, covering treatments ranging from medicated shampoos to vinegar baths (yes, really). We explore how these fungi thrive on our skin's natural oils and flourish in humid environments – explaining why some skin conditions worsen in certain climates or body areas. We also touch on the connection between autoimmune responses, stress, and fungal overgrowth, providing valuable insights for anyone struggling with persistent skin issues. Whether you're battling unexplained rashes, curious about the microbiome living on your skin, or just enjoy learning about the body's fascinating complexities, this episode delivers knowledge with a healthy dose of laughter. Subscribe now and join the only skincare show that successfully blends comedy with genuinely useful information about that amazing organ covering your entire body – your skin.
Welcome to Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Speaker 1You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex, drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to Sex, Drugs and Skincare. I'm Nikki Davis Jr. Welcome to the new format where we're doing little half hour segments. Very excited about doing this because we're trimming the fat, Yep, Trimming the fat. Half hour comedy hour, that's right.
Speaker 2Yeah, I don't know much about formatting stuff other than when you have to format a memory card or something like that.
Speaker 3Like.
Speaker 2DOS, yeah, like DOS.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2When you had to C colon backslash and then you had to go to the C drive directory and like-.
Speaker 3Anything with a colon. Anything with a colon. It needs to be cleansed. Yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2Even the semicolons sometimes.
Speaker 1You just lost anybody under 40,. By the way, what the fuck is DOS? Yeah, I know, I don't even know DOS is German.
Speaker 2It's a German operating system.
Speaker 1This is the only skincare show that includes comedy, comedy plus. Skincare equals sex drives and skincare.
Speaker 2So I just want to remind you of that, because if you're looking for it somewhere else, you're not going to find it. Yeah, a lot of skincare stuff that's on the television right now, like any kind of procedural show they don't have. They're not very funny no they're not very funny. If you go to a plastic surgeon, if you go to any place, they're stupid, they're not even funny this urologists are funny.
Speaker 3This is where we come up with laugh lines that's right.
Speaker 1Yes, that's right I know and I thought about naming it that a long time ago whose laugh line is it anyways?
Speaker 2Oh, I like that too. That's perfect. And we have to find out which improv person is still around.
Speaker 1Oh my God, oh yeah, don't forget, we're going to do bad improv throughout the whole entire.
Speaker 2Don't forget. You'll know it by when you hear us say it.
Speaker 1Don't forget, it's going to be bad improv.
Speaker 2That's part of it. Don't forget, never forget. 9-11 improv.
Speaker 1So, since we're already crashing and burning, guys don't forget to hit subscribe. Please Make us look like ballers. And also, we can make money so we can keep having amazing guests. Oh yeah, bigger and bigger guests.
Speaker 2And also write hey, I listened to this podcast in the comments, so remember all of this in your body. There's somebody on Instagram who does that, and I love it's like a motivational guy. He's like write calm in the comments to remember all of this in your body, and then he says it again Write calm. Yeah, it's like I said write calm. It's like oh, this guy's a little agitated.
Speaker 3I like that guy, see if we can get him on the show. Oh my god could you imagine?
Speaker 2okay, I love talking about other people when I'm here. No, no, no, we're only doing that to make you jealous.
Speaker 1Yeah, so it's nothing against you do you have anything else you want to say before we bring on our first guest? Not at all, I'm excited.
Speaker 2Oh, this first guest uh helped help to name you, I'm just I want to give it out there because she deserves credit for it. She gave you a really good perspective on how you should view yourself as a Davis Junior which I like a lot, and she's a repeat guest because we deserve to have her. She deserves to be here.
Speaker 1I think she's a four-timer.
Speaker 2Yeah, only four-timer.
Speaker 1You're the only four-timer. I would love a blazer. We were saving up for a watch, but a blazer's going to be a lot more affordable.
Speaker 2That's another podcast. The blazers are usually here. Hello, that kind of blazer All right, so bring her out All right. She's a hilarious comedian. She's a fantastic showrunner, she's a good person and I always love the way she dresses and she carries herself. Please give it up for Tammy Jo Dearon.
Speaker 3Yay Me, yay yay hi. I magically appeared here and I get the mic again. Thank you, it's okay yeah, it's alright.
Speaker 2That's why the microphone has the little, the little padding on top of it.
Speaker 1Foam, yeah, padding hi, hi, thanks for coming. I know that it wasn't super convenient for you to come today, so we really appreciate your beautiful presence here, as long as I get that blazer for the four-timer blazer four-timers club. I think we're gonna have to make something.
Speaker 3I think we I'll wait till five-timers club. Okay, all right, we'll do a five-timers, because I was gonna say the four-timers club and the five-timers club.
Speaker 2There's a different color there and all depends on you know what I mean we have to figure out which is gonna be which, yet, because, it's the first, which is which?
Speaker 1So, tammy, you get to choose your topic today, because we're doing four back to back. This is very exciting, yeah, so you pick a number between one and four.
Speaker 3Here. Wait, I want to touch him. Okay, because there's like energy.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah, you feel the energy through the numbers.
Speaker 3Oh no, I don't, I want this one.
Speaker 2Is that what numerology is?
Speaker 3You feel number energy. Today's topic is fungus. This is very professional this is exciting.
Speaker 1I have a lot to talk about we just took some fungus mushroom pills, the adaptogen mushrooms not like the fungus that I was thinking of, not the, the growth on the body fungus. Not like the fungus that I was thinking of.
Speaker 2Not the, the growth on the body fungus.
Speaker 1Yeah, but like the brain kind, not the one that actually makes you go into another dimension kind yeah yeah. You took a brain fungus Like the adaptogen mushrooms. I guess is supposed to help. How was it Did you microdose? We're on them right now.
Speaker 3No, you just take these right now. Yeah, well, no, no, they're not like psychedelic, no I know I get it, yeah, but you don't.
Speaker 1You don't microdose, like uh adapted. Yeah, rishi, and oh like rise the brand, like that. You uh corrected me. I'm sorry, I just touched your hand. You mean, um, that's cute let's go to los feliz.
Speaker 3You mean Los Feliz Did.
Speaker 1I do that no Okay, because I probably would. Even though that's not correct to say Los.
Speaker 3Feliz.
Speaker 2It isn't no, oh, los Feliz, right yeah. I just say LF to be safe.
Speaker 1LF, yeah, lf, Lofi, yeah.
Speaker 2And then they think oh, l.
Speaker 1You. I'm like no the letter and then we lose track, like we did just now. What did you say? L-a-f-a? I love your hair, by the way it looks cute poking out of your hat.
Speaker 2It does look cute. Oh, thank you, thank you very much L-A-F-A-N-G-A-S-E.
Introducing Tammy Jo Dearon
Speaker 1L-A-F-A-N-G-A-S-E, fungi-s. I'm not French, oh right. Well, sorry, I am not French. We're going to talk about fungus calls, and this is one I don't know 100%, and I have it, we all have it actually but I don't know 100% how to pronounce it, but it's Malassezia.
Speaker 2OK.
Speaker 1Right and what it is. I'm so glad I brought my neck pillow.
Speaker 3I know. She brought a pillow to rest, in case the topic was boring. No, no, no, this is really super exciting.
Speaker 2I'm here no, I'm really.
Speaker 3If four-timer, let's do the four-timers club with fungus, fungus come on.
Speaker 2There's a fun. It might get boring. Like on a like on a plane. That's what you thought I might think I'm on a flight right now, I'm just gonna be like meditating over there.
Speaker 3Tell us about malingase, okay.
Speaker 1Oh God, I love your interpretation of words Malassezia. Malassezia is a fungus that we all have.
Speaker 2Wow.
Speaker 1But if you either get an overgrowth of it or your body is for some reason going into an autoimmune response, which just means for some reason your body is attacking things that it's not supposed to attack, you're going things like rashes, like for example this, ie, ie this
Speaker 2inland empire.
Speaker 3Yes, yeah, and let me see the rash.
Speaker 1You want to see. Do you scratch it, don't be rash.
Speaker 3Oh my god in the middle of the night I scratch it so much it bleeds.
Speaker 1Sometimes I don't see it, just see like a little red, all of this, and then it's on my back. It's. It's probably not as bad as it normally is. This is a rash.
Speaker 3Your face has a rash. Don't be rash. That's what broke out were the eyes and the nose.
Speaker 1I'm just being weird.
Speaker 3Yes, I do have bumps.
Speaker 1I don't know why I did that with my arm, because you're on the fungi.
Speaker 3What is the joke? But I'm a fungi.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, I'm a fungi you all know it and if you don't leave it in the comments, If you don't know the joke. Write it in the comments. Write it in the comments, just write calm and then we'll know all about the joke Calm.
Speaker 1Okay, okay, so it's triggering. So autoimmune things there's. Usually when you're stressed out, it can be triggered, but they're not really sure exactly what triggers a lot of different auto. I mean there are so many different autoimmune. Give me an example of one. Um, that's a really good question. Autoimmune would be uh, eczema is an autoimmune.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, alopecia.
Speaker 1Alopecia Autoimmune, which I've also suffered from that in the past, yeah Nutrafol. Nutrafol. Oh, like the shampoo? Well it's. I thought it was a cereal. It's hair growth. Oh yeah, hair growth. Well, it's growing back right now.
Speaker 1So I've been putting on um an antifungal and it's not it's not like that I'm not that I'm super, I'm not fungi, but like I just my my body thinks that it's it's time to eat all the fungus and so it gets really inflamed and then, like it gets this and this, and like, the more stressed out, the more I can see it like what about candida? Candida.
Speaker 1Candida is just an overgrowth of yeast in your system, but I'm assuming if you had autoimmune issues where your body wants to attack anything that's foreign to be a fungi uh candida is a fungus, right, or it's a yeast yeast that builds up I think it's similar, though, yeah, and we've talked about that before and then your body will attack it because I'm on the anti-candida food.
Speaker 2Oh, elimination plan, you'll feel better you'll have like a lot less like brain foggy and stuff well, a lot of like autoimmune stuff, isn't? That can be also caused by like the diet and things we eat so by having all that stuff can cause like infections.
Speaker 3That was ai. Autoimmune thought that was AI autoimmune.
Speaker 1Yeah, that's why I've been asking for help for the podcast Autoimmune diseases.
Speaker 2I think you're thinking of autoimmune tune.
Speaker 3Autoimmune tune. Yes, that was it, the computers are making their own music.
Speaker 1All right, so sorry, I didn't mean to cut you off when you're back up singing Malassezia is on 90% of us, so I don't know who the 10% is that doesn't have it.
Speaker 2Who wants to know them?
Speaker 1anyways, I know Skinny people, so when it overgrows, our immune system overreacts and it can trigger things like eczema, folliculitis. Folliculitis, it's a good word, right yeah.
Speaker 3Oh, but maybe I do have that.
Speaker 1Did you get that? You get like the little Bumps. Those are probably yeast. Also I used to have those as a kid. Yeah, I used to get them too. I forget the name of them, yeah, but like picky bumps, right Bumps. What's a picky bump, you know? Like little white bumps on the back of your arm and then you pick them and then they turn red and then you can't wear sleeveless shirts, yeah.
Malassezia: The Fungus We All Have
Speaker 3I don get them on top of my arms, you do, oh Okay.
Speaker 1Well, I want to see those later. All right, so you can also get seborrheodermatitis, which I have suffered from as well. Oh my God, I know so Seborrheodermatitis.
Speaker 3Mm-hmm Right yeah.
Speaker 2She doesn't perform as much anymore but Subcacophagal zones.
Speaker 3fun reading lipid dependent.
Speaker 1Okay, so lipid dependent just means it lives on? I think it lives on certain oils no labial. The other lips.
Speaker 3Labial dependency.
Speaker 1Yes, I think Tammy has that. I have that, that's my sexuality.
Speaker 3I'm a labial dependent, oh my.
Speaker 2God, that's what you check off on your voter registration.
Speaker 1I'm a labial I used to be labeled independent no labial dependent. Oh my God, that's what you check off on your voter registration. I'm a labial. I used to be labeled independent no labial independence.
Speaker 3Get a tax break for that. My sexuality is dependent on labia I like that Intake D-O Intake, yeah, not out.
Speaker 2Sure, outtakes are what's funny afterwards, when things don't go right.
Speaker 1Like whoa, whoa, whoa, funny afterwards when things don't go right. Okay, so it's it thrives on your oils of your skin, which is what I think the lipid part, like liposuction is, like fat oils, things like that.
Speaker 3My favorite is the humid environments humid.
Speaker 1Well, humidity will also bring it out as well, which could also um describe my lower region do you get a lot of humidity down there? Well, uh-huh.
Speaker 2You know what they say. Once in Florida, always in Florida the tropics.
Speaker 1You can leave Florida. I'm a very humid person but your vagina will always be livid. When I get in the car, I'm warm.
Speaker 3I always steam up the car on my side. Oh interesting, I'm very humid.
Speaker 1You have a lot of.
Speaker 3you bring your own ecosystem with you I have this moly soppitant whatever it's called if you have it, you should name it before somebody else does.
Speaker 2I think that's how you say it yeah, um, so, yeah.
Speaker 1So it can also trigger things like dandruff, pit of reiis this versicolor, I think that's like little pits in the skin are you sure?
Speaker 3because I thought it had something to do with film like technicolor. Oh, because versicolor yes.
Speaker 1And it can also folliculitis, which is like little pussy, little red things, Pestules. I've been getting zits in my scalp recently too. I'm nasty.
Speaker 2I have so much going on right now. I'm sorry. Do you have a pestule? Janet Jackson was talking about you.
Speaker 1What Nasty.
Speaker 3Yeah nasty the whole time. Okay, we got a good one.
Speaker 2Now we're going. There's the teaser.
Speaker 1Started with janet put that pillow away for a second, all right. So I I looked up some of the like the, the things that like activate the cells, but honestly it's gonna just sound like a bunch of scientific jargon. But, um, it says that up to 49 of the ad patients. What are they? What's the ad? Um?
Speaker 2autoimmune after death deficiency patients?
Speaker 1I don't know. After dark, after dark patients, uh, 80 have head and neck, have a malassezia specific ige. Okay, those are things that I'm not the ige levels. I guess they correlate um with the flare severity.
Speaker 2So flare severity right, that was when I when remember that year when r Ric Flair said he was going to retire, uh-huh, and everybody's like dude, don't do this to me. And that's what they referred to as the flair severity.
Speaker 1So, severe.
Speaker 2Plus, he also had a bunch of fungus and that's why he was going to retire the nature boy, exactly the nature boy, yeah he didn't want to do ant.
Speaker 1Thank you very much.
Speaker 2That's another good improv Snooze.
Speaker 1No, I go. Thank you very much.
Speaker 3That's another good improv. Thank you very much. Good improv. Okay, can I say that after I say thank you very much, you can say anything you want. Thank you very much Good improv, see, okay.
Speaker 1So then, things that you can do to get. Oh my god, the hat is so good if you're listening and not watching. The hat is even more electric than the sweatshirt it was a gift.
Speaker 3It looks so fabulous. I hope it was a gift. I made it today. It says I love.
Speaker 1Tammy Jo, on it. Was it a gift to yourself?
Speaker 3I made it for myself no, it was given to me. I want one okay, alright, want one.
Speaker 2Okay, all right, that was easy yeah, yeah, I was.
Speaker 1That was gonna be a little more pushback on that, but okay, well, you can go to the store and buy one. Oh my god, you guys, I'm so, I'm having a hot flash right now, oh my gosh, good job.
Speaker 3Yeah, thank you, that's there you go.
Speaker 1Thank you, good improv um.
Speaker 3So what's an ige level?
Speaker 1I don't know um.
Speaker 3If you want to look it up, you can on your phone while I talk about other, but I have taken this keton conazole ketoconazole yeah, that's an antifungal I have taken that for my anti-kandida okay, so then it's.
Speaker 1I think kandida is also considered to be the fungus and it won't go away. It it eats sugar. It's in your intestine like it's in your digestive tract. Okay, I'm just asking.
Speaker 3Me too. Thank you, good impression Hashtag. Yeah, I think it's in your Yep. I don't want to say anything because I'm not sure.
Speaker 1Okay, it can live in a lot of different systems in your body. The candida can just get all up in there.
Speaker 3It causes a lot of problems. It does, it causes geographic tongue.
Speaker 1Tell me again about geographic tongue. You told me about that before.
Speaker 3In 12-step program they say did you do a geographic Like? Did you just move somewhere else hoping that your life would? Be, the same. And then when you arrive, you're like oh, I came with me, right.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3My tongue is so miserable. It even wants to leave my body, my tongue it's like you know, it has like a white film but not a solid, so it's kind of like it looks like a map.
Speaker 1Oh, okay, that's what it's geographically. I don't think. I don't see anything. Yeah, no, I don't see it.
Speaker 3Right, no that, the tongue being too big for the mouth, so there's like little ridges.
Speaker 1You can see that it's pushing up against teeth, it's right yeah um that's probably inflammation, and then the geographic to the white stuff is probably the candida, like little um, yes, when they die off.
Speaker 3Yeah, little tongue scraper my well, yeah, I'm healthier now because I've been on it. But my my wife calls it um uh information information information.
Speaker 1I'm very informed right now. I didn't realize that's what that was.
Speaker 2I thought people were just eating ricotta cheese, a lot Like as a kid.
Speaker 3I thought it was just like a bunch of people just always eating.
Speaker 2Ricotta tongue. Ricotta tongue. Yeah, I thought it was ricotta tongue.
Speaker 3I'm not saying anything because I had something really not good in my head about that one. Which one? The ricotta tongue. Well, having a yeast infection on their tongue, oh, like, maybe you caught it from another human.
Speaker 1Oh Nikki, what you are so dirty. Wait a second, are you? Yeah, sorry, I didn't mean to offend your delicate sensibilities.
Speaker 2Is that why, like my mom would say after she made bread, she'd be like don't lick the bread bowl after you're done, because I was always like you know, like the no, no, I used to make it myself oh really different area.
Speaker 1Oh, oh right, yeah, you had your own system, I'd make yeast. Yeah, this is, I'm gonna be isn't that like a?
Speaker 2isn't that like like a sourdough thing? Is that what that? Uh, or is that something different?
Speaker 3well, have you ever made?
Speaker 2sourdough.
Autoimmune Responses and Skin Barriers
Speaker 1No, but it's basically just leaving it out so that it forms on its own it became quite a trend during the pandemic yeah, my sister, one of my half sisters that I found, started like a whole company of like sourdough and you have to have the starter right and it's a lie, and is she doing that? Yeah, I think she's still doing it. Yeah, she lives in like Carlsbad or something. All right, I got to start a business right now. I wish you your first customer yeah exactly, and you know how she is Alina we love you.
Speaker 3I've met her sister.
Speaker 1Yeah, have you met any of my?
Speaker 3sisters. No, you, I've met your sister. Oh, you met her, I met her sister. Okay, I was just curious. This is confusing.
Speaker 1I have four sisters. You do, yeah, I have twin sisters. They're half sisters, the two other half sisters. So technically I have two sisters because I have four halves and a half brother, that's that's some math right there.
Speaker 3Old family.
Speaker 1Stephen Wright actually said that, so you have to laugh at it. Okay, I was laughing inside but listen, here's my question. Yeah.
Speaker 3Are you the youngest, the oldest?
Speaker 1I am still the oldest of all of them. Yeah, the, the, yeah, the second oldest one. My dad impregnated three years after me, and so I think he had taken a little trip outside the state of. California and impregnated an Indian. What?
Speaker 2do you call a Native American woman? Yes, we do call them that, the.
Speaker 1Navajo.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, yes A.
Speaker 1Navajo. I'm Indian, you are. Are you a Navajo? No, oh, that's good. I'm Choctaw, I'm Indian, you are. Are you Navajo no?
Speaker 2Oh, oh, that's good, I'm Choctaw.
Speaker 1Are you really?
Speaker 3Oh, okay, that's really cool. Irish, italian, american, indian.
Speaker 1Just like everyone. All of those are just raging alcoholics. Oh my God. And ragers, that makes yeah, oh yeah. Not only are we alcohol, yeah, that's what I have.
Speaker 3An orange county. You learn that you smile when you're angry.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, oh yeah it's like, it's like being in the south, but in orange county. You're like how are you?
Speaker 3I'm full of rage of course we talk behind people's backs. We don't want to hurt their feelings bless their heart.
Speaker 2That's very considerate she meant it I believe it all right.
Speaker 1So then, uh, what else? What else can help? Uh, or what else can help? I help, but like enable this more as like a barrier dysfunction.
Speaker 3What's a barrier dysfunction?
Speaker 1So I guess certain people have, like maybe you've stripped your skin of certain barriers that will protect your skin from like just Like a chemical peel.
Speaker 2Well, let's say your skin's ozone layer.
Speaker 3Yeah, right, yeah, but why would you strip the barrier?
Speaker 1I think if people over strip, you know what.
Speaker 3I don't know how it happens. Maybe, I think chemical peel oh a car accident. He scrapes the whole thing off the barrier.
Speaker 1I think it's more like not so much a physical barrier in that sense, but like whatever's living on your skin somehow that gets sort of wiped away and so everything. All the other little systems are running around. They're able to get in there now. Remember one of our guests recently. She had something called a biofilm. And so she couldn't get the acne, because each of the little acne bacterias had its own little ecosystem around it. So even taking what is that drug Accutane Accutane couldn't even help her, because the biofilm was actually protecting her acne.
Speaker 3The organism, yeah, Kind of like the National Guard. Who are they protecting the protesters or the government?
Speaker 1Yeah, that's a really good question that needs to be answered, yeah exactly.
Speaker 2so the biofilm, yeah now barrier disorder is a biological context. Refers to the compromised functional function of an epithelial barrier, which is functional and also a layer that protects the body from external agents okay so basically it's just that area of it.
Speaker 1Epithelial cells are your skin. Anything that turns over epithelial cells, Exterior agents like 007. Yes, yeah, yeah, yeah exactly. Okay, so we talked about.
Speaker 2Of the interior exterior.
Speaker 3I'm the exterior agent. No, I sound cockney.
Speaker 2Chimchimory. Hello, I'm 007.
Speaker 1I'm going to save you Living spaces, living spaces you guys aren't going to know what the hell we're talking about.
Speaker 3Seriously, I just want you to know I drooled just now.
Speaker 1Oh, that makes me so happy, yeah, okay, yeah, I like it when my cats drool too. That means they're comfortable.
Speaker 3Yeah, they're relaxed, I get it.
Speaker 1Okay, not that, yeah, okay, all right. So let's see Stroke. True, there's also a link to psoriasis. They're kind of all the same. In that sense, psoriasis is sort of like your skin cells the skin cells just keep piling up on there. Ew, yeah, right.
Speaker 3Like a key. What's that called when you get a scar and it just keeps oh, like a keloid, Keloid.
Speaker 1Yeah, similar, that's what Mark has we were talking about. Oh I just thought it was a shark bite. Yeah, baby shark, shark, shark. Because it was a small. Yeah, it's. Yeah, it's a small scar. Oh yeah, I was trying to the best part is trying to let him be macho.
Speaker 2Yeah, I get it. I get it. Explaining the joke is usually eat with a tumor.
Speaker 3Let's see.
Speaker 2I'm really laughing, I'm just kidding, we're at 25 okay, cool alright.
Speaker 1So let's see, let's see how much.
Speaker 3I have left here.
Speaker 1The producers are going now, so treatment treatment and management, if you do happen to have any of this stuff, like I do management. Speaking of fungus oh boy, I'll tell you okay, sorry, go ahead are you going to call the manager?
Speaker 2I'm going to call my manager.
Speaker 3I mean, I've been looking for a talent manager well, yeah. I know a guy named. Gus, he's fun ladies and gentlemen, all the way from the short couch, all the way from the short couch.
Speaker 2Where'd you come from the short couch? Oh my god, we can't use that word anymore living spaces with the British actually yeah, that's what the Spice Girls used to go for.
Speaker 3I wonder if they have living spaces there in England maybe they probably do.
Speaker 2They call them flats, living flats, flats, flats.
Speaker 1In England, mm-hmm.
Speaker 2Maybe they probably do.
Speaker 3They call them flats, living flautas.
Speaker 1This is what I'm going to give it to you Flats.
Speaker 3Living flats.
Treatment Options for Fungal Issues
Speaker 1It doesn't have the same ring. I know Living flautas, and then you could just make it like a Spanish thing. Those are delicious. I love a flauta.
Speaker 3You know what I like in a flauta Mushrooms? Oh In a flauta.
Speaker 2Mushrooms. Oh, there was a bag of fungus. I've never had that before.
Speaker 3I broke a sweat on that one.
Speaker 2It's good.
Speaker 3Who's Lenore?
Speaker 2O'Malley, if you're listening and not watching, tammy has ADD.
Speaker 1She was just looking at something on the wall. Stuff on the wall, yeah.
Speaker 3I'm trying to find something interesting.
Speaker 1You bitch. Okay, so that's trying to find something interesting you bitch.
Speaker 2Okay, so that's also another one of her shows. She does Check out Tammy Jo Dearing.
Speaker 1You bitch, that's right, your show is called Bitch. Wait, I have a show. Oh, I used to yeah, you used to yeah, oh. Way to bring it down. Remember all the things.
Speaker 3I used to do.
Speaker 1Now I'm here talking about fungi. Hey, you picked it. I know I did. I think it's a good one. It was the lord, it was the lord that picked it.
Speaker 2Yeah, you're showing people that you have other sides. You're not just entertaining and funny and the showrunner you. You know you also have fungus.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah, all right. How do we get rid of said fungus? Yes keto carnosol shampoo and cream. Are you doing that? Uh, I am using the shampoo and I leave my hair for doing that I've been doing it for a while, but not consistently. I started consistently about eight months ago and it's finally, finally growing back on my hair.
Speaker 1I didn't notice I hide it very well. I used to pull my hair out as a kid, so I know how to make a comb over happen. Yeah, for real. Like I had a bald spot on my head the whole fifth grade are you serious? Oh yeah um, my parents were fighting a lot, yeah, yeah, it's like cutting or you know anything, to just it was like a trance I didn't cut it, but I used to love the way it felt when the little thing came out.
Speaker 3And then I would stick the root. That's why I like piercings oh yeah, no joke. Yeah, yeah, because it, yeah, it gives like a little pain, it's like cutting, yeah so good, that's why I like to get hit.
Speaker 1Oh, my god, I don't know.
Speaker 3You know, like when I would box, oh and I would like the feeling of getting hit until blood, okay, yeah I got kicked in the head, I taste blood and then I spit blood and I went oh yeah yeah, no more.
Speaker 2yeah, yeah, this is Just hit my arm. Yeah, don't use your feet.
Speaker 1Okay, so also this is not in my eyes there's something called itraconazole. I don't know if you take that or not. There are oral oh, that is an oral one, so that's an oral azole. So itraconazole is effective at treating it. That's what I call my Itraconazole.
Speaker 3That's what I call my. It's your connoisseur, hazel. That's what I was calling Sandro. It's your connoisseur, you, hazel.
Speaker 2Oh you hazel you from the hazels. Wow, the hazel words. No, he's calling me an asshole.
Speaker 3Yeah Well, no, like this is going great. No, it's so good.
Speaker 1This is, I'm having fun am thank you good impression uh, okay and then repairing your barrier. So you want to use gentle cleansers, you want to not, so don't overwash important I know it's what I'm trying to tell you. That's what I do important things, and then I try to make you guys bring in funniness.
Speaker 3What else can help you with your ph? Um?
Speaker 1you can use lotions that um I think it will help to kill the fungus but you don't want to over dry your skin with, so you want to make sure that you're cutting it like in half, at least with the yes.
Speaker 3I've taken vinegar baths.
Speaker 1Yeah, but you dilute it though, right.
Speaker 3I mean, I put a whole bottle in.
Speaker 1But in a big bathtub though A big bottle in a big bathtub. Okay, but it's still diluted.
Speaker 3You don't want to do it straight necessarily, or if you do, do a test to see first, because it's gonna what they use, um vinegar um without diluting for deodorant, if you were going to the beach the next day you should use vinegar on your armpits and then go. I'm gonna try it. I mean, I don't prefer to smell like a pickle, but I do, though, but at the same time like so why wouldn't I be able to just put it directly on my skin?
Speaker 1you can. It's just it can be, especially if you've got something like eczema. It's going to be irritating and it also is drying and stripping, so you don't want to do over too much. Vinegar, Vinegar yeah, it can be. I'm telling you.
Speaker 3That's why you can clean with it. Also, it's not good if you have low blood sugar or something like that I about that?
Speaker 2yeah, because it isn't like uh vinegar supposed to help regulate insulin as well. So that's why I may, it might keep it, it might dip it yeah, so don't take the vinegar bath unless you um re like do a little research and don't open your mouth when you're in the water.
Speaker 1I've done that. Don't do what. Do you open your mouth when you're in the water? Yeah, and you drink it. I didn't drink it, oh, okay, good I didn't, god forbid.
Speaker 3I drink the pickle juice, though, oh my.
Speaker 2God, that's really good.
Speaker 1All right.
Speaker 3So ceramides, gentle cleansers pH-friendly lotions are really good at helping to reduce the trans-epidermal loss.
Speaker 1What would be an example of that? Gentle cleansers like pH-friendly lotions. What's the one? There's a few big ones that are on the. I don't use them.
Speaker 3I can't remember right now, because that would really help. If your pH balances off, you can have problems in your lady parts.
Speaker 2That's true.
Speaker 3What's the?
Speaker 2Pfizer, hex, pfizerderm.
Speaker 1I think that's a pH one. And then also, you can take topical steroids. I'm using steroid cream on my arm at the moment because it's itching so bad.
Speaker 2Steroids are very topical. Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead, we have to get.
Speaker 1That was my sylvester stallone impression phototherapy uv light can help to decrease the yeast load and inflammation, especially in dandruff. And a lot of instagram shots yes, exactly so that's pretty much. It so perfect. I feel like we got it all in there yeah, yeah, we're about 11 seconds away well, that's actually um over, but yeah, that's yeah yeah, you're right.
Speaker 3I'm not going to correct you you just did not wrong, but not right listening and not watching. I had a good time you did.
Speaker 1Yeah well, will you come back um a fifth time?
Speaker 3just get a jacket only if we do 45 minutes. I've done 60 and I've done 30.
Speaker 1All right, and then the next person will do 15. Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2And then somebody's going to be on stage. I still don't know what to do about my candida, your candida?
Speaker 1you could also drink some Vinegar In water, but don't do so much killing that you get die-off, because I've done that before, I've done that before I've made my own. You're supposed to have die off. Yeah, but if you have too much it will make you sick, it'll bloat you up, but it's only for a certain amount of time.
Speaker 3I had like flu symptoms I was like out of commission, you're supposed to Okay. Well, it's not fun for your body, it only lasts for like a week or two.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's gnarly and then you get better then, you're like wow.
Speaker 3I'm free, free falling. I just want to do one song.
Speaker 2Just so I have to, I bring it living spices, living before we throw you out of here. Where do people, where do people find you on the social stuff and things? Have you, have you? You're on social media right, okay, where?
Speaker 3can people find you? You can find me at Tammy Jo Deren, anywhere. Media right. Okay, where can people find you? You can find me at tammy joe darren anywhere.
Speaker 1Okay, cool well, thank you so much for being here thank you so much, it was so fast good, I know it went by super quick and I can go stop and get a sandwich on my way to my see. Oh, that sounds next stop yeah, all right, we care about your day. I'm on the run you're on the.
Speaker 2You know I'm on the run, she's on the land.
Speaker 3Bye everybody.
