Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
EP. 112 BREAKOUTS— The Emotional Connection with GUEST, RIC ROSARIO
Your face is talking, but are you listening to what it's saying about your emotions? Stress isn't just affecting your mental health—it's showing up on your skin in the form of breakouts, inflammation, and other issues that can feel impossible to control.
In this compelling exploration of emotional acne, licensed esthetician Nicky Davis Jr., Comedian Ric Rosario and cohost/Sherpa/set decorator/Comedian Sandro Iocolano break down the fascinating science behind why stress manifests on your skin. She explains how your body's stress response triggers hormones like cortisol and CRH that directly impact your skin's oil production and barrier function, creating the perfect storm for breakouts.
The evidence is clear—studies from Singapore and Saudi Arabia have confirmed the direct link between stress levels and acne severity in college students during exam periods. This isn't just anecdotal; it's scientifically proven that your emotional state can trigger significant changes in your skin.
But this isn't just about understanding the problem—it's about solutions. Discover why certain ingredients like niacinamide, azelaic acid, and ceramides are particularly effective for stress-related skin issues. Learn proper techniques for addressing breakouts without making them worse (hint: direction matters when extracting a pimple!). Plus, explore holistic approaches including adaptogens, magnesium supplementation, and facial massage that address both the internal and external manifestations of stress.
The episode also tackles the frustrating cycle of skin picking as a stress response—and how this self-soothing behavior actually perpetuates the problem. With practical tips and entertaining personal stories (including recurring pre-date pimples!), this conversation offers both validation and actionable advice for anyone struggling with the skin-emotion connection.
Ready to break the cycle of stress and skin problems? Subscribe to Sex, Drugs and Skincare for expert advice delivered with humor and heart. Your skin—and your stress levels—will thank you!
You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to Sex, drugs and Skincare. I'm Nikki Davis Jr. Again. I'm wearing the same outfit as last time because we're not taping these back to back.
Speaker 2:We're not doing that. No, no.
Speaker 1:We're doing it and Alex goes no. Welcome to the new half hour format. Thank you, you're welcome. I'm nikki davis jr. Licensed esthetician, stand-up wait. Licensed comedian, stand-up esthetician uh, 25 years. Uh, this is the only podcast with skincare and comedy yeah, everyone else is like.
Speaker 2:The other podcasts are not about skincare, not about comedy. Um, I think there's an snl podcast out there and that's it.
Speaker 1:We really have no competition no, there's only three other podcasts that exist, I think. So yeah, this is my uh. By the way, I didn't introduce you in the last one. A co-host, slash sherpa, boyfriend, um, all around great guy. How did you know that? I?
Speaker 2:was slashes, sherpa from guns and roses did you know that?
Speaker 1:I saw you carrying a big bag behind him.
Speaker 2:Well, that's my Saul bag. His name is Saul. Oh, that's right, I forgot that is his name Sandro Yocolano. Thank you very much, everybody.
Speaker 1:Oh, yeah, snaps, I like it.
Speaker 2:Thank you. Thank you our guest, huh, our guest.
Speaker 1:Our guest. Oh yeah, he was snapping, he was like doing like a like I feel like we just a little spoken word if we had more time.
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah. Whatever happened to spoken word, Do people still do those?
Speaker 1:I don't think I think they just think of them now. Good, save time. It's like you're in a club. You're like, oh god, it's amazing how fast we can. Be not funny, we just like get right into it, that's so much.
Speaker 2:everything is, if you just, if you just say you're doing something and you do this over here, nonsense can happen, happen, yeah.
Speaker 3:And people are like oh my God, that's so true.
Speaker 1:Nothing was said? Nothing was said, you just have to pretend like something's going on. Well, why don't we have you bring out our next guest?
Speaker 2:today. Oh man, I like your intros a lot. This is another guest who's been on the show.
Speaker 1:Sorry, I touched your fingers.
Speaker 2:Oh, sorry about yeah another, this next, come on, I'm trying to introduce people here sorry, okay, so this next guest is uh, I hit her off camera sometimes a little bit off camera. Oh, it's off camera. This next guest has been here. Another another repeat guest. This is, I think, a three or four timer maybe yeah, is this your third or fourth time? I think, third third time.
Speaker 3:Yeah, can I talk?
Speaker 1:yeah, you can talk yeah, yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, our guests just found out they could speak. This is pretty amazing. This is a great awakening for him.
Speaker 3:I didn't know if I was supposed to be quiet.
Speaker 1:Never, no, no, no, you're always welcome. I'm always learning.
Speaker 2:You deserve to be heard and seen, my friend.
Speaker 1:Always, but only when you want to.
Speaker 2:We love you so much. Yes, um, we're gonna adopt you, we're gonna. Well, he's, he's one of the funniest people I know and he's such a sweetheart and he's a really good person as well as a really funny comedian. Uh, he works at, he works in the comedy club. He's a fantastic sound dude. He's just a good guy all around. He's an awesome drummer.
Speaker 1:Please give it up for rick rosario yay, magically I'm here now, yeah, yeah that's gonna be the theme of the show okay so please let this the camera be on sondra right now, as he's leaning over pretending like nobody can see him eating the cookies that rick brought well, so I just want to.
Speaker 2:I don't want to crunch on the mic oh, okay because then I'll end up eating the mic. I lose, I don't know where to stop i't know.
Speaker 1:I just looked over and you look like a little kid just trying to hide your cookies.
Speaker 2:Oh yeah, I didn't eat anything. There's powder donuts all over my face.
Speaker 1:You guys are cute. Thanks again for being here.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1:No, Rick, seriously.
Speaker 3:Thanks for having me.
Speaker 2:Thank you for being here.
Speaker 3:Yes, thank, thank you, thank you it was very serious.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, I want to let them know. So, I'm going to let you pick your topic, so you get a choice of these three here.
Speaker 3:Also, I'll pick four.
Speaker 1:You want four Interesting.
Speaker 2:Mick. Rick is Mick because he's Irish now, but Rick picked the middle one, but he's far from being the middle of the road anything, because you are your own person and rick is very, very polarizing. He has a lot of political views.
Speaker 1:No one ever thanks for giving me a platform uh, to get into it, we're gonna, this is gonna be a, it's gonna be a tough episode to watch.
Speaker 2:Your topic is geopolitical climate and skin care. All right, so read your topic. What's your topic? Also, cookies are excellent and skin care All right so read your topic.
Speaker 1:What's your topic?
Speaker 3:Also, cookies are excellent for skin care right.
Speaker 1:Oh, absolutely Always.
Speaker 2:These are worth it though because these are deliciously buttery Ooh emotional acne.
Speaker 1:Yeah, emotional acne for 500.
Speaker 2:Is that like verbal diarrhea? People would say like, oh, you talk too much, but what is emotional acne?
Speaker 1:Are you asking me for real?
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 1:Oh well it is a real thing, oh sorry.
Speaker 2:For real.
Speaker 1:It is a real thing. We're going to talk today about how stress can literally jack up your skin, and what to do instead of spiraling and picking it. Oh, I love this.
Speaker 2:Thank you, Rick.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yes, that has to be the thumbnail.
Speaker 2:It has to be yeah For my whole life actually.
Speaker 3:I love that he's holding up a sign if you're listening and not watching, do you resonate with emotional acne? I don't know if I've heard this.
Speaker 1:I don't break out, but well, I do have some stories about acne, but not like acne. Acne, I've gotten.
Speaker 2:I've had not emotional acne, but I've uh, hives and things from being stressed or from, like you know, feeling right, so that's in that kind of breakout, but not like that's not really acne but yes okay, that's um, that's urticaria oh okay, oh yeah, I lumped. I lumped acne and breakout the same thing, but that's not the same thing acne and breakout is, but like oh, because you say you broke out.
Speaker 1:I got broke out in high okay yeah, this is more like um, like it's in your pore and you that stimulate your pores to get infected or whatever.
Speaker 3:Stress will do that.
Speaker 1:Stress will do that, for sure.
Speaker 2:It makes your pores sad.
Speaker 1:So it's not in just your head.
Speaker 3:The sebaceous glands.
Speaker 1:Yes, the sebaceous glands oh dude they're super sebaceous. That's really-. Oh, dude yeah.
Speaker 2:It's like new medicine. It's like dude yeah, that's like new medicine. It's like dude Like oh man, all right, come back in two days and put some cream on it. Okay, good one, Nikki, unbelievable.
Speaker 1:Actually, I wasn't listening to the first half of your sentence so. I was trying to figure out what you were talking about.
Speaker 2:It's like yeah, bring everything off camera, on camera.
Speaker 1:Yeah, the part where I don't yeah, exactly where I only listen to half a cent at a time.
Speaker 3:Put ointment on it or cream. Cream that was.
Speaker 1:If you like it, you got to put a cream on it. Cream, yeah.
Speaker 2:That's general rule of thumb.
Speaker 1:Cream Mm-hmm yeah.
Speaker 2:If you like it, put a cream on it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would agree with that. So emotional skincare rituals also we're going to talk about that actually can help you, and I wanted to bring up one time that happened many times. There was a guy that I loved, mitch Kern. He was like the only guy who drove a motorcycle and my dad hated him, so that made me just love him.
Speaker 2:Most people ride motorcycles. For somebody to drive one, you're probably the only person to drive one. Do you have a steering wheel on there?
Speaker 1:mitch is such a weird guy he was in my high school and uh and I I was in love with him because he was such a bad boy. But anytime I knew I was gonna see him three days beforehand I would get a humongous pimple right underneath my nose like the kind that could talk. It's a big tell yeah it's stress and that's like this is your stomach point right here. So it was like digestive. I was probably like, oh my God, I'm going to see him, and so gross.
Speaker 3:Would he like pass by you and say, hey, what's up? And then you'd be like, oh, don't look at me. Yeah, I'm just creating my computers. I don't even think he noticed.
Speaker 2:Yeah, no Because no, I would have plans with him, oh, okay.
Speaker 1:And as soon as I knew I was going to have a plan with him.
Speaker 2:So you would have that thing on your right here and you would break out because your stomach would be like what's worse, having that here or having the kind of stomach thing where you have irritable bowels around them and you just fart all the time.
Speaker 3:What around them and you just fart all the time. What's worse? Having this year?
Speaker 1:or just ripping farts, rick. What do you think, rick? It's all bad. Okay, that's the best answer. I guess that's why I avoid, uh, that kind of interaction.
Speaker 3:You know the possibility of romance. No, thank you, I'd rather just save myself uh the embarrassment it's a health thing.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it is a health thing. Thank you, nicky, you're welcome. It's a health thing I can identify with. Is a health thing? Thank you, nikki, you're welcome. It's a health thing. I can identify with, that for sure.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and no other reason.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you take good care of yourself by not dating anybody ever. Yes, take care of yourself.
Speaker 2:Don't date anybody.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Words to live by yeah, Okay so. And how long would that last on your face?
Speaker 1:It would last a long freaking time. Anytime I've ever gotten a pimple, it's lasted for like a month because it doesn't come to the surface. With me I have a scar here on a pimple that I didn't touch 24 years ago. I don't know if you can see that little scar there. And it wouldn't go away. It never came to a head, but it left a scar, so thank God I didn't have acne as a teenager.
Speaker 1:Yeah, oh, so like thank god I didn't have acne as a teenager. Yeah, I would just get like one. You weren't an acne person, were you uh?
Speaker 3:only when I ate poorly okay if I ate poorly, then my skin would get bad.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it would react.
Speaker 3:Um, so did your, did anyone know about this? Tell like, like if they saw it with somebody that you know, like your family or friends or somebody you say like, oh, you saw that guy again because you're you got.
Speaker 1:Your face is telling that would make sense, except for I didn't really talk to my family very much. Thank you very much, rick I'm sorry no, um, yeah, I mean it's if somebody were actually looking at my face. I did have that happen a lot, where people would be like, oh my god, you haveple.
Speaker 3:Oh, but they wouldn't know why. No, they wouldn't know why?
Speaker 1:Yeah, this is the Mitch zit Like if you're playing cards and playing poker and they look at your face and be like you, like somebody don't you. What? No, I don't. Are there any studies? That's a great question.
Speaker 1:Sandra, in Singapore they did some studies on some college students, where they actually tracked the students during exam season, which is obviously going to be super stressful, and the researchers found a very direct correlation between stress levels and acne flare-ups. So even though their oil production didn't go up for whatever reason, it still caused acne flare-ups, and so the stress is literally causing the breakouts, even when you're doing everything else right. So I'm wondering if that has to do with, like cortisol. You're like into the cortisol thing now too, right?
Speaker 3:I thought I was. Maybe I don't even know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, cortisol too. Right, like I thought I was, maybe I don't even know. Yeah, cortisol, it's like when you get stressed out and then, um, your body produces this hormone that makes you hold fat, it makes you um, oh yeah, you can't sleep I'm way into that.
Speaker 2:You're in cortisol, that's my jam I think, yeah, I do caffeine. I have a lot of caffeine that releases cortisol. That does it makes you stimulate cortisol.
Speaker 1:Yes, not getting enough sleep will stimulate cortisol, and cortisol also will make you eat more things that aren't good for you yeah, it's a spiral it is now you're speaking my language, the spiral ham
Speaker 2:or like a, a cinnamon, a cinnamon bun.
Speaker 1:They're all spirals, that is true it's a good point, rick and cortisol will make you eat both of those things yeah, wow.
Speaker 2:So you think that I think the food and drug administration know this? I think that they, I think they want to see food.
Speaker 1:I knew it uh, another study that looked at female med students in saudi arabia. I'm going way out there now. They were super smart apparently I don't know who qualified them as that Super stressed, and the ones with the higher stress levels had significantly worse acne. So yeah, being emotionally overwhelmed is absolutely good. It's going to show on your face.
Speaker 3:Yeah, oh yeah.
Speaker 1:Not just with your expression.
Speaker 3:Do I have a breakout right now? No, not at all. No, no, no.
Speaker 1:You don't really show Like. You always look happy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you always look happy and well put together. I like the stash I shaved and the oh you did.
Speaker 3:Well, I'll send you a photo. You can put it up. Yeah, the way I looked yesterday. Okay. It grows that fast big old beard. Oh yeah, I didn't, you trimmed it, I didn't shave for like two months. Oh wow, so we just had this enormous are you protesting?
Speaker 1:I wasn't gonna talk about it, but okay, well, dude, sorry, but I mean it's obvious, like we're shooting in 4k.
Speaker 3:Please downscale this to 1080 for my sake.
Speaker 2:No, I think I have some like nicks or whatever no, I don't see any of that. No, you look good, that's all I see. You look rugged, you look rugged and you have like that like that, that scruff look thank you. He looks like a nice guy, but he just he's got an edge.
Speaker 3:Easy, you're edgy, yeah, yeah exactly you might pack a knife like motorcycles, even though you don't have one and I give make people get acne when I ride, when I drive my motorcycle right, yeah, stress everybody out. Yeah, here comes rick again, I bet somebody would be stressed out if I rode a because I can't drive.
Speaker 2:Oh my god, I'm so worried for you.
Speaker 1:He called it driving too, by the way he goes, because I can't drive a motorcycle well, I know, but thank you, okay, you and lance fine who's lance? Who's lance?
Speaker 2:lance bass, the guy you're attracted to lance bass.
Speaker 1:What's his name? Mitch kern head bird lance? I don't know.
Speaker 2:I think mitch and lance are probably the same quality of name, I think because lance is like what you do to a pimple and m Mitch, is what you do to a zit. No, no, not at all. All right, don't mention Okay.
Speaker 1:So when you're stressed out, your body releases a hormone called CRH.
Speaker 2:Okay.
Speaker 1:I have to read it Corticotropin-releasing hormone, and that tells your skin to pump out more oil, right? So on top of that, the cortisol will weaken your skin to pump out more oil, right? So, on top of that, the cortisol will weaken your skin barrier, um, and then it makes the inflammation even worse. So you've got all of this going on at the same time. Um, and then you add bacteria and then you start. This is where this, the the cycle, comes around. You start picking it and now you've got like a full-on loop of like stress, picking acne and rinse and repeat.
Speaker 3:Is that what the emotional acne juice is? It's just cortisol.
Speaker 1:Oh, inside the pimple. Seabomb or something like that oh no, pus, is it, pus, it's pus. Yeah, it's just like. Yeah, it's like an infection.
Speaker 3:The nerve. This is why I'm annoyed with my body. I just I wish I didn't generate pus. Yeah, it's just.
Speaker 1:It's supposed to be a healthy thing. Right, it is. It's your white blood cells attacking your yeah.
Speaker 3:So it's doing good. It's doing good, but it's just annoying in the moment to like yes, yeah. Deal with pus in your hand.
Speaker 1:When do you, how often do you have pus in your hand?
Speaker 3:Not often, okay, it's happened enough times to where I have the memory of being like. Why is this happening? Because I just have to wash my hands for 20 minutes or something.
Speaker 1:Where was the pus coming from? If you don't mind me asking, that's a good question, I don't remember.
Speaker 3:I feel like whenever you pop something to, I don't let stuff sit, I pop them, right, yeah, the pimples I pop like pussy things like okay, like a growth. I'll knock it out.
Speaker 2:Rick gets his hands dirty, I get my hands dirty and he doesn't. He goes. You know what? Let me see what I can find out about this.
Speaker 3:I lance it, I mitch it, you mitch it, he gets it. Mitch, if you're listening, I'm very sorry, don't be a lance. Let me see what I can find out about this. I Lance it, I Mitch it, you Mitch it, mitch it. See, he gets it.
Speaker 1:Mitch, if you're listening, I'm very sorry, don't be a Lance. Yeah, don't be a Lance, exactly.
Speaker 3:It's a poll. We're doing Mitch or Lance.
Speaker 1:What's that? Yeah, it's a poll. Yeah, yeah, write in the comments whether you're a.
Speaker 2:Be joust about it. Be, joust Because we're Lansing.
Speaker 1:Oh right, oh man that's good.
Speaker 2:Thank you very much. That's also another good improv.
Speaker 1:Big improv. Yeah, oh, that's good. When you said Lance Bantz, I actually thought you meant Lance, our friend Lance.
Speaker 3:I don't have a friend, lance, yeah.
Speaker 2:Lance Bantz-topolis. No, no, oh you mean. Glance, no, glance, glance. Alan, oh, I haven't seen him in a while.
Speaker 1:Yeah, Well, yeah, but he still exists. He does, but he's not really a friend of mine, oh, okay, well, I mean, you know I was friendly with him.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. I'm friendly, but I can't call everybody a friend. There's just like a limited amount of space here. Is this a human? He's a very funny comedian. I don't think he's a pimple.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, let's see what else we need to talk about.
Speaker 3:Rick's like why contribute so much to the conversation. You do, yeah, you do.
Speaker 1:Oh, my God, fill in the blanks while I'm reading my notes here. So let's see how emotional stress leads to self-soothing behaviors like skin picking. I guess that is a self-soothing behavior.
Speaker 2:Right. It's picking your skin Satisfying and that constitutes emotional acne. It's like you get stressed out and you pick your skin and then it kind of and then it gets worse, and it gets worse and worse. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I noticed that when I try to like feel the stuff, I get sometimes pimples in my scalp. I feel them and they hurt, so my natural instinct is to pick them. But then I'll notice like two days later I'll have another one, like next to the one where it was.
Speaker 3:Oh my.
Speaker 1:God, yeah, because you're really not supposed to pick them, especially if they're red. Don't pick a pimple if it's super red on the bottom, because it will burst, going the other direction on the inside, and then you can risk getting a scar and or infecting other pores around it. Always, if you have a pimple, here's the pimple, the red part. If it's red, try not to get it. Then it's calming down, but it's got the white thing. Then you go sideways into it, not straight down. Oh, wow, interesting.
Speaker 1:Otherwise you're pushing the bacteria right back into the pore.
Speaker 3:What do you use?
Speaker 1:You could use a lancet Toothpick.
Speaker 3:Yeah, toothpick.
Speaker 1:Or a chopstick, chopstick, chopstick, I don't know. Big zits, big zits, yeah.
Speaker 2:Interesting. So you have a little lance. What if you have a needle and kind of sterilize?
Speaker 1:it If it's super sterilized, super sterile, yes, all right, not like half sterile. Not half sterile, super sterile. You just pulled it out right before it's three quarters sterile. Exactly. But yeah, and you always want to go sideways, sideways, and then you can just go like just as a little bit, and then the white stuff comes off and then leave it If it hurts. You know that it's too sensitive to squeeze.
Speaker 3:Oh, really yeah.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah, that's a rule of thumb. You don't seem like. I don't think I've ever seen you with a breakout, though.
Speaker 3:No, but I my. You know, my skin tells a story, doesn't it? I mean you look like a normal person, for sure.
Speaker 1:What story does your skin tell? I?
Speaker 3:think because I have used over the months that I've been coming.
Speaker 1:Tell me about that, because we have a little bit of extra time. Yeah, what have you? Been reading lately what things have I been telling you that you've been doing?
Speaker 3:To go back to one of the last episodes for the viewers, we were talking about cinnamon, yeah.
Speaker 1:I'm taking a lot of cinnamon.
Speaker 3:I don't know if that helps the skin or not, but well, it helps your blood sugar, so that could help. Yeah, that was another conversation, I guess.
Speaker 2:But no, no, it all ties in together, but that's also emotional too because, if it's because we're talking about cinnamon and blood sugar, which because that episode it was about sugar sugar on skin care and that's also self-soothing and then emotional, which caused you to eat more, which I think because. Yeah, because if you're eating stuff and you're having a breakout, that's still emotional acne.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because you're causing it you're causing and your body with the stress level is coming out too and you used to eat a lot of sugar as a kid, right? Oh my god, I used to eat it out of the bag and I think we talked about this probably.
Speaker 3:I think so it sounds and familiar.
Speaker 2:And then when you saw what was his name Lance Bass. When you just saw Penn and Tellers show up, and she used to get a little pimple.
Speaker 1:Penn and Tellers. Oh, mitch Kern, mitch Kern, you got to remember these people. I don't have to, I know.
Speaker 3:But I will. What if you watch his?
Speaker 1:That would be amazing.
Speaker 3:Did watches. That would be amazing. Did you get a little something? I know I feel like I just did actually a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that was a very strange relationship.
Speaker 3:I'm getting something now too. Yeah, are you? Oh, shit, oh no, okay.
Speaker 1:So hormones, blood sugar and sleep are also going to get dysregulated when you're stressed out, so that is also going to lead up to some flare-ups. So what can you do to sort of turn that around right? So we want to know like I can't just leave you with you know, this is the shit that happens. So you can do things, uh, like you use niacinamide which reduces, uh, inflammation. That's, I think, usually like in a serum and a cream, or a cream.
Speaker 1:It calms the redness. Um, I believe that's a b vitamin I've heard that yeah, niacin yeah, because niacin usually be by at any time I've taken niacin.
Speaker 2:That's when my skin gets super red and I'll start sweating right like I don't know if it's because it's supposed to open up your um like a blood like a vasodilator which opens up, like your blood vessels. Um, but that's what they would have. It was like tingling all over your skin.
Speaker 1:I took that one time and forgot and I went to wash this to clean the shower and I turned. I was red and I thought I was having like an allergic reaction and I called my boyfriend's mom and she took me to the hospital and then I realized I took I forgot that I took niacin, yeah, so stupid.
Speaker 3:So ni niacin will do that.
Speaker 1:It sounds very ceremonial, it kind of is, because it's for detoxing. Yeah, oh nice, you know who takes it. A lot is um the, uh the. What are those people um uh? Scientologists, scientologists yeah yeah, they pop niacin and then you sit in this in a sauna to sweat out all of the uh, the drugs and shit, and then as you're sitting and sweating everything out and getting your system, somebody's next to you writing down all of the drugs and shit.
Speaker 2:And then, as you're sitting there sweating everything out and getting your system, somebody's next to you writing down all of your deepest, darkest secrets. And everything to blackmail you, but it's a good cleansing for them, because they get all your stuff, all your information.
Speaker 1:That's true.
Speaker 3:I think I've had too much niacin before and I felt like you joined Scientology Spikes. Oh, I felt like joining something.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh really I felt like spikes were coming out of my skin.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that sounds about right yeah.
Speaker 3:It's like tingly, yeah, yeah it feels unnatural.
Speaker 2:But then you're like wait, why is this happening? You're like, okay, this is good.
Speaker 1:Maybe it's burning through something.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:I'm not exactly sure what it does was reborn, if you're listening, not watching. Rick is a very tough looking guy. Before niason he was a stone cold killer, he was a contract murderer, and after niason he just shed all that out and he's a sweetheart now there it is, it's, it's all out in public now I know we had. No, that's it. We should have rehearsed, so we're just sharing secrets.
Speaker 1:Now I know, yeah, okay, cool, perfect, awesome. Sandro's next.
Speaker 2:No, yeah, I'm already in a cult.
Speaker 3:This podcast is really about secrets, right? I feel like when I shake, something rattles.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's something going on back there. I noticed it. We're at the 25 minute mark. There's something back there that's right on the top. I think it'll be okay.
Speaker 2:Well, you're good, Everything on. I see it right now, but everything on there is taped down until it's not. So you're good.
Speaker 3:Should I move more or less Tell?
Speaker 1:us in the comments. Yeah, exactly, tell us in the comments. You tell us in the comments.
Speaker 3:We're just dictating what we should do next. Yeah, there's podcasts like that, right? Well, I mean, they do that.
Speaker 1:Anything to get somebody to write something in the comments would be wonderful.
Speaker 3:Just write in the comments, tell us what we should have done. Yeah, exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, so we're getting close to wrapping up. So things like azelaic acid, which is great for acne and pigmentation because the acne is going to leave a little red spot a lot of times, ceramides are in certain skincare products.
Speaker 2:There's a product called Cera, something, yeah, okay, yeah.
Speaker 1:That helps to repair the barrier for your stressed out skin, which we were talking about barriers for your skin.
Speaker 2:In the last episode, the barrier reef Yep Barrier reef Barrier reefer. Oh yes, whoa, that's good. Yeah, they got good green in the ocean. That's a seaweed, yeah, seaweed, yeah, seaweed.
Speaker 1:See, oh my god, that's what keep up with you guys, I, I don't even know what the hell's going on. You don't want to yeah, you know, see you reefer madness, there you go, there it is yeah, trying to keep up yeah that's another good improv, yeah trying to keep up yeah, yeah, that's a good improv ones.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'm trying to keep up and then adaptogens either.
Speaker 1:You can put them on your skin and we did talk about adaptogens, I think, last time with the mushrooms you can also take them internally yes, right, so like reishi ashwagandha things like that to help too, and I take that stuff in my um in the night drink that I drink to try to help me sleep um, it's a night night.
Speaker 2:It's Night Drink by Bob Seger. Didn't talk about the Night Drink Night.
Speaker 3:Drink my targeted ads now that I'm taking like Lion's Mane and stuff and these focused mushrooms. I've seen some people are talking out against Ashwagandha.
Speaker 2:Really it's like not good for you.
Speaker 1:Oh, come on.
Speaker 3:For everything. Where somebody says it's good, there's going to be somebody to counter it.
Speaker 1:Always, oh yeah, every single thing.
Speaker 3:Yeah, pretty much.
Speaker 2:Are there any say anything specific about it, or is it?
Speaker 3:I guess you lose the joy of life or something.
Speaker 1:The quality of life. What if it's?
Speaker 2:already gone because it just makes you like dull or something. That was what they said I don't mean to and I might be misconstruing it.
Speaker 3:This is kind of just what I remember off the top of my head, but that's.
Speaker 2:But that's totally fine and not your fault, because that's how the news and information is presented to us.
Speaker 1:It's very confusing.
Speaker 2:Absolutely, and it's very bombarding. It's almost like throwing it out there and it's like, okay, now you guys find the facts.
Speaker 3:Tell me what's right For an actual podcast. I wanted to bring more solid, concrete stuff to the table.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and you have more than anything that any news source out there oh, good, good, good.
Speaker 1:You're also. You're opening it up for people to do their own investigation?
Speaker 3:Sure, because it's personal to each person. Yeah, that's true.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, so then magnesium is really good to help with your stress levels.
Speaker 3:Helps you go to sleep? Right, yeah, it helps you sleep.
Speaker 1:It helps your muscles from being like spasming Lymphatic drainage or gentle facial massage, which is what I do, and then while listening to breakup songs.
Speaker 3:This is what AI does.
Speaker 1:And then just don't touch your face. Basically, just put a sticker on your mirror that says please do not touch your own face.
Speaker 2:I've been doing it wrong the whole time. Yeah, you've been doing it backwards, yeah, can I give the example that the AI gave us. It said. Put up a sticky note that says not today, satan. That's right, not today.
Speaker 3:Satan, that's right.
Speaker 1:Tell them.
Speaker 2:Is this a Christian-based?
Speaker 1:AI. It's a Christian AI. That's terrifying.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah, ais are Christian now.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's going to be gonna be. Yeah, it's not. I mean jesus, that's good improv.
Speaker 1:I'm wondering even, and this is, then we have to wrap it up but like this is a nightmare ritual. Um, I was wondering if and I asked ai this before and this is completely off topic but what if somebody like a christian uh, you know, like a base of peoples just started like putting in more and more information into the ai database?
Speaker 3:oh right, I wonder if it would start to lean towards that yeah because it is just all of our collective information right right
Speaker 2:yeah, right, I mean I. I guess it would have to be put into there unless they could break it down, but I think everything's already infected. Yeah.
Speaker 1:I think you're probably right.
Speaker 2:I think the computers also have viruses.
Speaker 1:Yeah, all right, so let's just kill ourselves, okay.
Speaker 2:Actually don't. That's good improv. Before you do it, like and subscribe.
Speaker 1:Well, this was informative for me as well.
Speaker 2:And I really want to tell you how much I appreciate you coming and bringing cookies today, as well, thank you.
Speaker 3:Yes, of course, the biscuits the the worst thing I could have brought. No, for like the topic that we're talking about, I I hope it doesn't affect your skin I don't think it will.
Speaker 1:Okay, yeah and no, we'll, we will.
Speaker 3:We will not tell you if it does, oh well I, I kind of want to know, you kind of want to know I do want to know.
Speaker 2:I don't think it'll affect the skin, I think. I mean I've been to dermatologist's office that have literal candy, the one you used to go to.
Speaker 3:Oh my god, yeah, buckets and buckets of candy.
Speaker 1:So you're doing more in coffee. Yeah, don't eat the whole box. Yeah, I think that's just eat the. Don't eat the cookies inside, just eat the box, yeah exactly that's what.
Speaker 2:When I first first learned about the birds and bees, that's what my dad told me don't eat the whole box oh, that makes so much sense now Rick, absolutely yeah, we're all because you get full.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm going to have to have a little talk with my dad. Yeah, well, it's going to be difficult. It's going to be, yeah, alright, well where can people find you?
Speaker 2:where can people find you, Rick? Where can people find you, Rick?
Speaker 3:I'm having lunch with Nikki and Sandro.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 3:That's where you can find me.
Speaker 2:All right, perfect. He's going to be with us having lunch and then after that. You know people want to get to know you after we have lunch, so where can people find you?
Speaker 3:on social stuff, on socials just at Rick Rosario, that works.
Speaker 2:R-I-C-R-I-C, R-O-S-A-R-I-O that's me yes.
Speaker 1:People love you on the socials. By the way, you get more comments and views and likes Of the amount of views you get more likes and comments than any other guest.
Speaker 2:Thank you, you're a ball of light. You're a ball of light. Yeah, we love you so much. We love you guys.
Speaker 1:Thank you percentage wise. Yeah, we love you so much yeah man love you guys.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, dude all right.
Speaker 1:Well, thanks for stopping in and, uh, we'll see you guys next week, take care. Thank you for being here, nikki. Oh, thank you you're welcome.
Speaker 3:Thank you nikki.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank you, sandra thank you, nikki, thank you okay, all right, get out.
