Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Ep 117 SKIN DEEP WITH THE HILARIOUS PHIL HENDRIE
Have you ever wondered what those persistent breakouts on your forehead or jawline are trying to tell you? In our captivating conversation with actor. legendary radio personality and voice actor Phil Hendrie, we explore the fascinating world of facial mapping—where your skin becomes a roadmap to understanding what's happening inside your body.
Phil opens up about his personal battle with skin cancer, sharing how his fair complexion and red hair made him particularly vulnerable to sun damage. With characteristic humor, he recounts the surgery that left a divot in his nose and his subsequent reconstructive journey. His candid storytelling serves as a powerful reminder of the importance of sun protection for everyone—even mentioning how Bob Marley, despite his darker skin tone, ultimately died from skin cancer that began on his toe. We dig deep into sunscreen ingredients, distinguishing between chemical screens like avobenzone and physical barriers like zinc oxide, offering practical advice for comprehensive protection.
If you haven’t seen the movie about Phil himself called “Hendrie” you’re missing out. Do yourself a favor and. watch it immediately and understand the greatness you are in the presence of.
You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex, drugs and skin care. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to Sex, drugs and Skin Care. I'm Nikki Davis Jr, the licensed comedian, stand-up esthetician.
Speaker 2:Oh, the, oh, nice Right, the licensed comedian. Oh, did I say the by accident? No, I think on purpose. I don't think it was, I don't think anything is really an accident.
Speaker 1:God, I feel like we're on a radio show now.
Speaker 2:The sound of my voice is throwing me off. It's throwing me off too, actually, isn't it? Yeah, a little bit. It's kind of harsh. I knew it was off-putting, it's kind of harsh.
Speaker 1:Just kidding, and this is the only podcast that I'm aware of. Me, too, I've got to come by the way, like and subscribe.
Speaker 2:But, um, the skincare and comedy, uh mix, because the only people we know are funny and so, uh, the only people that are worth hanging out with are pretty much comedians, right except for our family well, yeah, that's more like because you have to, you know, that's true, that's very much true that's the complaint department, is the family, except they're the ones complaining to you about you or themselves that somebody else.
Speaker 1:You go to the complaint department, they just start complaining to you. I hate this fucking job.
Speaker 2:I hate this thing. Why are you even here? It's Thanksgiving, you invited me. Oh, that's don't. Don't even get me started about that, you know. And then it's awful.
Speaker 1:With me. With me, as usual, as a co-host slash Sherpa, slash that decorator, sandro Yocolano, very comedian. Blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 2:That's my yep, those are my credits.
Speaker 1:But let's, can we just skip the banter and just go right to our amazing guest?
Speaker 2:I would love to do that.
Speaker 1:I was so excited that he said yes. This is the second time he said yes and I'm still like I'm pinching myself. The last time he came, we told him the wrong address, and so I think we got him in some extra skin care.
Speaker 2:I mean skin cancer. Sorry, not skin care, but well, I mean it. That's why we're here yeah, yeah, that's right. That's why we're talking about things, but yeah, last time we was down the block it was one of the hottest days on record yeah I think for earth, oh my god it was almost one year ago.
Speaker 3:It was yeah, it's just about the same date. Oh wow, that's so crazy, I never knew that sunset boulevard was like a mountain. I thought it was the street. You know, he's like going up three blocks and I'm going up there, up up a side of a mountain literally oh my god, yeah, well, quick, give me an intro, just so we leave people.
Speaker 1:If you don't know who this person is, you're stupid, but go ahead anyways. Well, that's a good intro.
Speaker 2:Yeah, um he's uh an incredible, incredible uh talk show. Host radio show this guy's is the most. You are the best at improv if I've ever seen anybody ever, and the man can spin so many plates if the plates were voices and characters fully fledged and remembers all these characters. Uh, the's legendary and a radio hall of fame, phil Hendry.
Speaker 1:Yay, phil, thank you so much for coming. Yeah, how are you?
Speaker 3:I love you guys. I'm good. I'm in Florida, which I should say I'm not doing that great. I'm in Florida, but I'm with a woman I love. I know what am I going to do and you know it's the Jackie, or, yeah, jackie, I almost said. I said the Nikki.
Speaker 2:It's the Y names at the end.
Speaker 3:In Buddhism they say do the bold thing that will take you to happiness. Just do the thing that is bold and that scares you but that you want to do. So here I am, in Florida.
Speaker 1:That is very bold. It seems like the last place right now that you would be given all of your uh posts lately.
Speaker 3:yeah, I mean, I, I, I miss california, but you know I love her and we're going up to coco beach tonight to have dinner at a place called luna hakuna. Or wait, what was the big? The big luna kahuna. Luna kahuna is goofy, it's. It's all these tourists in Speedos, or really short bathing suits, no shirts forget the shirts, they could have guts the women too. And big coconut drinks, everybody walking around with gigantic coconuts with straws sticking out of them. Yes, it's a crazy scene.
Speaker 1:So I want pictures.
Speaker 3:I will Of your date.
Speaker 1:Yes, you and jackie sitting in in bathing suit bottoms.
Speaker 3:Well, we're gonna go. I wear pants and she says to me where are your shorts? I go. The last time I put shorts on I walked out to the back here and I was covered in like mosquito bites. So, oh my god. Well, every no one wears pants here. I said, well, I gotta wear it. There's no way. I'm not gonna wear pants because I'm going to get destroyed. She looked at me like I just got off the boat from maybe New Guinea. Now here's how we do it here. You'll understand. You don't wear pants here.
Speaker 1:We just live with mosquito bites on our legs. Those are our pants.
Speaker 2:Those are God's pants. Mosquito, mosquito bites. Yeah, just blow them nice well, um so we're gonna pick a topic.
Speaker 1:Uh, you're gonna pick the topic so you gotta uh one through four because we're doing oh, just before, we I don't know if I already said this we're doing these half hour segments, um, so that they're more palatable for people. Um, and then that way we get to have you back more often. Um, so we're picking right.
Speaker 3:Yeah.
Speaker 2:So we're gonna pick a topic and then we'll talk about it for as long as we have things to talk about, and then we can talk about whatever else, we find that half hour has been studies known that people can drive and listen for a half an hour and still, uh, die in a fiery car wreck fiery car wreck if they do it.
Speaker 1:If they do it in an hour, it's you never, get to the meat of the podcast.
Speaker 2:It's a waste of time. It's a waste of time, okay, so yeah. So, uh. If you'd like to pick from uh, numbers one through four okay, I'll take three. Okay, three so from uh my, from from uh camera. I left uh three right here yeah okay let's see so the topic is oh interesting uh-huh, what is it? I'm gonna read it just as it's written.
Speaker 1:Okay, beauty bs we've done to our skin oh, okay, okay, oh really, episode three is oh okay, wait, okay, wait.
Speaker 2:So what this is. This says two. Hold on, let me see. So it's number two. Did I get them out of order?
Speaker 1:He said three. This is the number two.
Speaker 2:Right, but they were the order you gave them to me in.
Speaker 1:Oh, I got you. Okay, what's number three? Okay?
Speaker 2:Hold on.
Speaker 1:Okay, because I think there's a better one.
Speaker 2:Alex, can we start the day over again? Okay, I have to get up. Okay, number three facial mapping.
Speaker 1:Oh, okay, that sounds interesting, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:I do that a lot. Facial mapping is something. It's a gas Facial mapping.
Speaker 2:We just talked about cartography, sorry.
Speaker 3:My nose is generally San Francisco. How do you facial map?
Speaker 2:The San Francisco of my face Is your nose. That's so funny. There it is. The san francisco of my face is you know it's so funny.
Speaker 1:Um well, facial mapping is generally like um, you use your face as a map to see, like your forehead. Well, um, like, if something's going on, you'll have like breakouts on your forehead. There's digestive stuff on your jawline. It's hormones um, wow, really yeah and if it's on your cheeks, it can be like your lungs or your stomach. Um, so, basically using your face as a map, chinese medicine does it a lot, so, um like, like the different points.
Speaker 2:Is that what it is like?
Speaker 1:yeah, okay, this is weird though because the last time you were on, we talked about gut health and one of the first parts of the, the podcast that I had put for this um topic was gut science, was gut scan science, and so basically I kind of wish he had picked a different topic.
Speaker 2:Well, I tried.
Speaker 3:And another thing let's see, and, oh, one of the things that's interesting about it.
Speaker 2:Isn't that so funny. Oh and oh, here's a nice bullet point.
Speaker 3:You know, I can tell you this I've never had really skin. I've had skin cancer. Yes, tell about it, I've never had really skin.
Speaker 1:I've had skin cancer.
Speaker 3:Yes, tell about that, I don't know if you noticed, but I've got like a divot in my nose, dude, and I'll tell you this. I had a freckle on my nose many years ago, in my early 30s. I went to the doctor. He said oh, it's a keratosis.
Speaker 1:And buzzed it off and this one reoccurred and started to bleed. I don't know how funny any of this is. No, it's serious.
Speaker 3:Yeah, seriously hilarious, yes but anyway, um, I go to the doctor, he says oh yeah, sure, phil, we'll take that, we'll take care of that. Well, he carved a divot in my nose. I'm looking at pictures of myself from 2020 and I was actually visiting jackie for the first time. So this is when we fell in love. She falls in love with a guy who's got a dent in his nose. So I went to a wonderful guy named Dr Tabibian out in Nagora Hills in Los Angeles and he was able to kind of reshape my nose. So you can sort of see there's a little indentation there.
Speaker 1:So, like this, this is your tough touched up version afterwards, because I don't really see it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, the touched up version afterwards, because I don't really see it. Yeah, the touched up nose. Yeah, you're so hollywood well, you know, you got to do it. You got to do what you got to do? You know I that's been my skin face mapping stuff just looking out for for for skin cancer, because I was born a fair, fair skin kid. I had freckles as a kid, red hair. I never took my shirt off at the beach because I was embarrassed because of my white skin.
Speaker 3:I always wished I'd been born, you know Latin, or somebody with dark skin like my Mexican-American friends.
Speaker 1:Same.
Speaker 3:And then suddenly, all of a sudden, I didn't care anymore, you know, and just walked around with white legs and white skin and skin cancer.
Speaker 1:Skin cancer, it's the perfect accessory for every outfit. Let's talk about that, though, for a second. We don't necessarily have to talk about the what we've just talked about, but like I want to talk more about like you had it on your head. How did they remove that? And then how did they also get it off of your nose?
Speaker 3:Well, I've been fortunate that the skin cancer I've had has been basal cell. I mean, this is kind of scary sounding but it's not. The bad stuff is melanoma. That's the deadly one, but I had like basil cell so they just burn it off. You know it's good with angel hair. Yeah, sorry, I said it's good with angel hair.
Speaker 2:Yeah basil Like pesto, yes, okay.
Speaker 1:My producer just looked at me with this look like the lasers coming out of his eyes. Now I'm hungry. Thanks a lot.
Speaker 3:I'm talking about cancer and I'm hungry um, so yeah and I had an ear on my forehead and it's just a thing that happens to fair-skinned people, I think. Um, but it is kind of scary, man, because you'll go. Oh, there's another one there. I wonder what this represents, you know, will it be the? You know, but it all good. My father, my father-in-law, my former father-in-law, rest his soul. Al had it so bad on his head. Um, they had to like he had a. Literally it was like he had a bowl in the top of his head. That was the cause.
Speaker 1:They had to dig it out like that.
Speaker 3:They had to to get out and there was a bull. There's a bull left, yeah, and I said, I said al, don't you want to put a hat on why? Why would I do he's? A chicago, chicago guy, old school chicago guy well, philly, you want to go out golfing. I said, do you want to put a hat on what, what, why? Well, you got a bull. Oh, the hell with that. I don't give a shit you put nuts in there these guys.
Speaker 3:These guys were like ex brooklyn dodgers they that's how old these cats were and they were out golfing, wow, wow. And the one guy. And one guy would come up next to the golf cart you know, joe's, he's three under and the other guy's putting for a par. Okay, see you later. And I said who is that guy? That guy used to be a priest. Now he just lives here with some chick and and follows us around as we golf.
Speaker 1:That guy over there in the Dodgers.
Speaker 3:That guy over there was with the Chicago Cardinals. I mean, what the hell? And you have a dent in your head? Yeah, I do oh my God we all have different backgrounds.
Speaker 2:It's incredible.
Speaker 3:But that was bad man, that stuff, and I think it was like, anyway, it was deadly. I didn't know we were gonna talk about death. Well, I've got a lot of stories there we need something to laugh at. And this is. This is a comedy show.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly you know, I have like some, I have like stuff, you know every like little, like moles that pop up and little things like that, but and I have to get them checked and I and I, I don't but um yeah, I know he doesn't and I don't say who are you talking about, because I've never heard you, I've never, I've never get anything checked um.
Speaker 3:But you know, yeah, bob marley died from skin cancer on his toe, on his toe, really yes yeah, yeah so and he had dark skin, so like nobody's immune to this stuff he should have. No, he should have shot the sheriff, which he should have just killed that guy at this point, got the hell out of Jamaica for good.
Speaker 2:Wow, I didn't realize that, so it just started there. Then it spread.
Speaker 1:I guess it spreads, yeah, so you got to catch it.
Speaker 2:It's just amazing, just that beautiful sun, but if you're outside it's just too much of anything honestly, that's true, it's crazy.
Speaker 3:And when I first got to town, we were out no, I don't so it was hotter than hell. I could feel the sun beating down on me. So I went into the you know whatever it is, the tourist surf shop, slash ocean equipment place and there were two girls there, you know, counting money, yeah, hi. And I said, well, have you guys got sunblock right there? So, anyway, this guy came in with this bill it's no good, yeah, it's another one. And checking to see. Do you realize that they check to see if your bills are counterfeit? They go, how much is this? Uh, it's a 253. I said I parked across, thank you very much. And she went and left me standing there mid-question about the sunblock park, my car. But, um, the thing about these two girls was that I'm pretty sure they were illegals.
Speaker 1:Uh, I'm just kidding I was like, wait, where's this going?
Speaker 3:no, I just you know. The best part of that meeting them was that they're in the middle of counting money, counting the till and looking at bills. Does that happen to you? They check bills now they're counterfeit that's what.
Speaker 1:I've never seen anybody just sitting there, like, just like I've seen them a little bit, but like not very often.
Speaker 2:Well, you, say, if it's like a 20 or something, you get it and then you know, but as you or something, oh right.
Speaker 1:I usually pay in pennies.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, those you have to bite those take forever because you have to bite every one of them.
Speaker 1:So three stooges she was like doing that?
Speaker 3:Is that a regular thing? Oh yeah, oh man, you wouldn't believe some of these clowns. Wow, he's like 16. So I left with my sunblock, 50 block. I was gonna say what did you?
Speaker 1:get. What is it like? Uh, do you know what the main?
Speaker 3:ingredient is sorry I can get it, it's right over.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, get it.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I want to know what's in it uh, I can tell you, nicky where hey bill, where's the sunblock?
Speaker 2:phil's. Phil's got one of his guys he's got a sunblock guy coming in they're over here.
Speaker 3:Yeah, okay, oh, is this it Good? Thank you, stove RX. Okay, 50. Okay.
Speaker 1:Does it say what the main ingredient is? Let me see, yeah, I want to know.
Speaker 2:It's not sweet potatoes, is it? No, it's not, it's wheat. No, I'm kidding. Where the hell is this Main ingredient? You want a gluten-free sunblock? I'm sorry, I don't think.
Speaker 1:Do you wear your glasses like that so that the reflection doesn't do that?
Speaker 3:Because I'd have to do that too sometimes Let me see. Oh, here it is A-B-O-B-E-N-O-N-E-R-I-P-R-A-N-O-N-E-R-I-P-R-A-N-O-N-E-R-I-P-R-A-N-O-N-E-R-I-P-R-A-N-O-N-E-R-I-P-R-A-N-O-N-E-R-I-P-R-A-N-O-T-E. Sal-silly, sal-silly.
Speaker 1:The sound is going back and forth from my left to my right ear. I don't know if that matters Is that okay?
Speaker 2:Okay, yeah, you're good. It's just something's wrong with your ears.
Speaker 1:Okay, perfect, so avobenzone is the main one, and then you have something that's probably methaloxycinnamate or something like that for B-rays.
Speaker 2:What's benzone?
Speaker 1:or aj benzo is it?
Speaker 2:uh, that's that question's never been, ever been asked enough what a timely reference that is for external use only.
Speaker 3:Do not eat.
Speaker 1:But yeah, that's, that's the stuff um sunscreen, I recommend you get something with minerals in it too, like a sort of a zinc oxide kind of thing. If there's anything in like that, that's good too, you know what Nikki?
Speaker 3:They have inactive ingredients, I guess Does that matter.
Speaker 1:I mean inactive.
Speaker 3:That stuff I can't pronounce. But yeah, those are the main ones up there.
Speaker 1:The active ingredients Get some that have also that have like a zinc oxide. That's more of a full spectrum, not fill spectra oxide, that's more of a full spectrum, um, not phil spectra, uh specter, phil specter, sunblock, yes, um, and another timely reference. And then uh, that well, also because the avobenzone it does protect you from the aries, but it breaks down pretty fast in the sun, so you have to keep reapplying it, and it is a chemical sun screen and you want a sunblock too, especially if you've had cancer before.
Speaker 1:so I just want to make sure that you're doing that and or wearing like a hat when you're outside, cause that sun out there is harsh.
Speaker 2:The humidity bakes it in.
Speaker 3:I got a King of the Hill hat. That I got like 10 years ago.
Speaker 1:You have a King of the Hill Wait were you on King of the Hill?
Speaker 3:I was on King of the Hill. Yeah, I did. I was a utility voice. I was. I never did have the you know the contract so that you were a part of the cast, but I was brought in as um. You know I liked it. It was a utility voice guy I did. I can't even remember what I did. Coach Sauer was one of the characters that I did, and uh, and Jewel Jewel Crawford, I think he was a attorney and this kind of crap, but uh, it was fun. It was great show to be on. Now they've rebooted it.
Speaker 3:They did really and yeah, they have. And have they asked me to come back?
Speaker 1:no, they haven't. No, they haven't. Okay, you got me all happy well, that's, that's it.
Speaker 2:That's not a reboot, that's a crash.
Speaker 3:That computer crashed, yes I know that they're starting up, I don't know when. Um, I wanted to ask you, nikki. There's one thing here. It says oxybenzone free.
Speaker 1:In other words, that's not good oxybenzone I uh, I guess that's what they're saying um, honestly, like the, the less chemically ones you get are the are the best ones. Um I don't know why oxy is any better than avabenzone? Um, but because avabenzone is sort of on the iffy uh list as well with the chemicals, because you're going in the sun and you're baking that into your skin. That's why I really always, when I tell somebody asked me about sunblock, it's better to have paprika it's better to have paprika.
Speaker 1:Yes, smoke paprika, because you're baking into your skin oh right, yes, it makes a nice, uh nice glaze. Yeah, um, but you want something that's uh, that's actually a physical barrier and not just a chemical screen of sun things.
Speaker 2:So wait, the Benzone and Ava Benzone. Is that benzene Like? Is it petroleum based, or am I thinking? I don't know what they make it from honestly, it just sounds like harsh chemicals, but you know.
Speaker 1:They are chemicals.
Speaker 3:They're saying this stuff like oh, look at this, my agent's calling me, hold on oh.
Speaker 1:And they're saying this stuff like oh look at this, my agent's calling me.
Speaker 3:Hold on. Oh yeah, Please take no no, no, I'm going to let it go OK, Because he's a great guy, Theo Caesar, I love him. And he called me, said are you up on your residuals? I said yeah, well, you know you owe me, oh yeah.
Speaker 2:That's a great question. I love that sequence of questions.
Speaker 1:Yeah, how are you doing on my residuals?
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I said I'm getting all my residuals. Yeah, well, you know, because I didn't know that you paid commission. This is probably inside baseball stuff. I didn't know you paid commission on residuals, but you do.
Speaker 2:You do, do you? It all depends on, yeah, some managers do, some don't. I have a friend of mine who doesn't. Okay, yeah, maybe.
Speaker 1:Maybe because Phil's getting bigger checks than you.
Speaker 2:Well, I mean, yeah, definitely, I just don't tell anybody anything.
Speaker 3:What's the club? There's a bar in town here in LA or someplace, called Residual Bar, where people bring in their-. Yeah, the one cent residual check, uh-huh. Yes, you bring in your like if you put it up on the wall.
Speaker 2:Oh, okay, right I didn't know they did that. But yeah, we did a couple of shows there before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we did we did some comedy shows there from before oh awesome.
Speaker 3:I got to bring in my 65 cent check that I got today from I don't know who. I think it was. This Is 40 or something. That's right. That's so cool.
Speaker 1:You still haven't seen.
Speaker 2:This Is 40? I still haven't seen that.
Speaker 1:I'm going to make you watch it just for the only reason.
Speaker 3:I mean I in the movie. It's so great I love it. Oh my god, you know that was 300 pounds in that film. No, you were not, I was. I was in bad shape. Um, I must have been really unhappy because I was doing that. My marriage had ended okay, and there I was, and, and paul rudd was the greatest guy in the world, just a sweet man, just a nice guy, um, and I, which made it all the better to just wail into him.
Speaker 1:That's right, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 3:He said really hit me Really. I said Paul. He said hit me in the stomach, do it man, oh my. God, I couldn't do it. I'm bigger than him. I was afraid that I'd hurt him.
Speaker 2:He studied under Houdini, so that's crazy Under him. I didn't know that.
Speaker 3:I hit him in the scene in the stomach and then across the face. You know the stunt guy. The assistant director will tell you it'll look realistic if you go across the face with your fist because it looks like you hit him.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:So I did that and then, after we knocked off for the night, then I found him in the parking lot. I beat the shit out of him the things you said. No, not at all, but the stunt guy who hit the door, if you guys remember the scene, there's a kid that hits the door. It's paul.
Speaker 3:It's supposed to be paul hitting the door with his bicycle right and he's up in the air and falls to the ground and it was a stunt guy. I looked down at him and he looked up at me and he goes. How did it look? I go great fantastic his head is broken in half yeah yeah. I said how'd you get into stunt dry? He said into stunts. He said I used to. He said when I was a kid I was jumping off the roof all the time so my mom put me in gymnastics. Oh my god oh, interesting.
Speaker 2:I wonder if they have like a gymnastic background. That would make sense, because you have to be able to, you know how to control your body, and I mean, that's just in midair yeah, yeah, nuts, wow well what are you working on?
Speaker 1:anything? Oh sorry, go ahead.
Speaker 3:Well, we're way off the topic of sunblock, that's okay.
Speaker 1:That's okay. We're just happy to have you. Honestly, it was just an excuse to get you.
Speaker 2:Well, the block is mainly the sunblock. It's basically we're blocking the sun from this conversation.
Speaker 3:We just block it.
Speaker 2:I was going to say the one thing I remember seeing you. I've seen you. Well, I I saw you because I heard your voice in it. Uh, when you were in futurama, that was like some of the coolest when, like, oh great, oh my god, like popping in, like being like just like the whole thing, everybody's a weirdo in that show in like the space. So it was just so cool to like hear you pop into that.
Speaker 3:It was yeah I was playing three characters in that the free waterfall. It was a family of hippies so you know I was doing this voice, you know which is the sunbaked guy that we all grew up with you know, and then the grandfather was sort of a sunbaked hippie guy, you know, but the he's just, you know, he was like there was some kind of a revolution happening.
Speaker 3:We're not we're not gonna eat those non-organic foods. I don't care what you say. Yeah, you know stuff, but it was awesome being in a table read next to um, oh, man, that must have been so cool. You know billy. I get to know billy west. Um, who's nuts. Uh, you know billy, billy is so brilliant. Um, and he he's the only cat at a table read that will just go ahead and go off book and ad lib shit yeah.
Speaker 1:He doesn't care. Writers are there going.
Speaker 3:Did we write that, bob?
Speaker 1:No, I thought I just got to make it up, right now they already shoot, like the mouths moving, and then, like he's not going to do any other, like another we got to make the lip flap.
Speaker 2:You the lip flap back. You don't mind, you know, but that was that was. That was great. Yeah, that's wild, so cool. Do you find that like? Uh, so somebody, like somebody like billy west, who's just been just doing it for years and just specifically doing those characters in that could be, um, having basically doing those characters and those voices in a limited time.
Speaker 2:But you're doing them and characters and you're putting them like daily into a story I feel like you, you get to get those voices and that creativity out like in like a daily. You know span, where maybe he's holding on to it and he's just a little, because I feel like that's kind of like. A lot of voice actors I've met that like are oh, just do that, or just I mean, everybody's got their own kook to them but they just seem like a little bit more of a, like a just a little off the rocker, yeah.
Speaker 3:Well, we all I mean, look at me, man, I'm talking to my people say, oh, he's the guy that talks to himself. Well, I guess you're right.
Speaker 1:I am.
Speaker 3:I don't know how I developed this, the ability to go in and out of character and do it, and it's kind of it's weird because, you know, I I do voiceover work but probably don't get as hired as much as a lot of people, because I'm just way. A lot of people are really in tune with you know what a producer wants in terms of a commercial pitch or animated show, things like that, and whereas I'm just always it's sort of in a performance mode and and um and also caricature mode, because nowadays it's, you know, we something grounded. Make sure it's ground. That means you've got to be a good actor, you know, and I'm more of a clown than I am an actor.
Speaker 2:So generally I'm but your storytelling is just completely throughout, like you. There's an arc, there's a beginning, there's a middle, like there's a button, and it's just the way it flows, it feels like a magic trick, though Cause we're like.
Speaker 1:I've tried to figure out why, how, even if you had it written down, how do you remember to go back and forth between these characters and what they know about the other character and their voices? And it's just, it's magic what you do.
Speaker 3:It's so cool. I guess the canon is in my head of what's happened and will happen.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 3:And I don't know, man, people will say, and they say I ask you the stupidest questions. You know, do you just break into character when you're making love to your girlfriend?
Speaker 1:Yeah, sure, that's exactly what I'm doing, but what are you talking about? Of course not.
Speaker 3:You know. I mean, I actually pay a mortgage and I'm on time with my bills. Oh my God. No, I'm not, it's just, it's a. It's a. It's a weird. Now, I don't know if you guys know this or not, but the Golden Globes are going to be giving out a Golden Globe to the best podcast.
Speaker 1:No way. Oh yeah, I can't wait to find out who it's going to be.
Speaker 3:I don't know. I mean um. That's just for 20 points.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, yours is considered a.
Speaker 3:I can't forget it because I just look at yours as a show, but it's actually a podcast.
Speaker 1:Yours is a podcast too yeah, but yours is more of a podcast actually. Now that I think about it, I just when I see, I see it in my head, I forget that it's actually a podcast, because I see what you're doing in my like. I'm watching it almost yeah that's so cool. You should definitely. Are you nominated?
Speaker 3:oh, no, no, I haven't been. They haven't even announced the nominees. Mean, I don't think they've announced the actual last. I think it's going to be 50, and then 20, and then the you know, the final group.
Speaker 2:This is interesting to have that category. We're going to have a million dollar podcast. Now we're like what's your budget for podcasts? Oh, I'm sorry.
Speaker 3:All these big.
Speaker 2:Hollywood podcasts.
Speaker 3:We got back from Venice last night. We're tired, but you know we went over there and we sat inside of someone's garage the microphone there there was a. There's a show that my that Jackie and I felt called Bodkin. Have you guys seen Bodkin? It's on Netflix about it. This guy is a podcaster who goes to Ireland because he wants to do one of those true crime podcasts.
Speaker 2:Right, oh, that's hilarious.
Speaker 3:They just mock the hell out of podcasts. There's some nuns there. Oh, we love listening to the podcasts. It's hysterical. It's a cat from Wilford.
Speaker 1:Oh, Wilford Hayes, oh yeah, oh yeah, he's fantastic, you know what I did start to watch that and then I forgot about it. I'm going to go back and finish that, because he's amazing, he's so funny, it was boring.
Speaker 3:That's why you turned it on.
Speaker 1:It was boring Okay.
Speaker 3:We watch a lot of those shows. Jackie and I are like did you guys watch Dark? No, I've heard very good things about that. That's the foreign show, the.
Speaker 2:German, or is it?
Speaker 3:It's German, it's in German and it's it's nuts, it's a sci-fi. There's another one, called for out of New Zealand, called glitch, where people come back out of there crawling out of their graves. But they're not the undead zombies, they're actually just, you know. They get out of the grave and they go. Well, where have I been? Where's my family? They're dead people who come back and they want to get back involved with their families. And the families are like they don't quite know what to do. They're happy to see them that's very interesting, but they moved on.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, it's like, it's like castaway tom hanks wanted to come back from the island he wanted to go with uh what, helen? Helen hunt was her name, I don't know.
Speaker 3:And then she's married to you know um, peter noth, chris noth it's a whole, it's a whole thing you gotta force you to dump him and go back to Hanks? Yeah right, I mean, he's got the more stable career.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 3:Oh my God, but it really was heavy and at the end they all realized that they belong dead.
Speaker 3:They should just they should just stay dead, and I don't want to give away anything from Dark, but I think I will. It's like all of these realities have happened because a man tried to bring his nephew back to life and what he did was he created a nuclear fission where six different realities happen and there's two people pivotal to each of those realities. They finally find their way to this nephew who died and he's in a car and he's driving to a bridge and they realize they have to save him. To save him means all those other realities go away and the real one exists. So they tell him the bridge is out, you're going to want to turn. He goes, thank you, and he leaves and he lives.
Speaker 3:But they also realized one other thing they can't exist, this guy and this girl, because they were pivotal to all of this bullshit that happened. If they keep on living, stuff will go off the track. So not only can they not exist, they could never have existed.
Speaker 3:Oh, so like in the movie glitch, where all these dead people just walk into this void. That's what they do at the end. They just walk into a void they never were and I know it sounds depressing, but I got up and cheered. I was like, yes, finally an answer.
Speaker 1:It was like yes. Finally an answer. Yeah, exactly, it's better than lost.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think we have to. I think we have to cut this one.
Speaker 1:But we're going to ask you back again.
Speaker 2:This is, I see, this is the thing this thing about like doing like the the shorter podcast is like I get now we, but we want more, more, more more um, thank you so much for uh for for being here, man thanks for having me, yeah and I'm from florida, so if you need any pointers, uh I grew up in tampa area, so, uh, I know what oh yeah, to say um just tell me I just got an agent down here and you, they're shooting all kinds of crap down here, man, they're shooting in tampa, they're shooting in orlando, they're shooting in miami.
Speaker 1:Oh, that's great. You should get an agent there, then I could do dual citizenship. I was, I'm, I'm birthright in florida that's true. Well, I was born in massachusetts so that could.
Speaker 2:That could cause some inflammation I you guys.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much for bringing me on. I hope I was interesting and stuff.
Speaker 2:But you're the best dude. You are the best, thank you so much.
Speaker 1:You could just sit there and you, we would just love having you so much. So, um, uh, next time we'll see, we'll have sushi, even though we're vegan, and uh, yeah, it was good to see you, so take care, when you guys had sushi with me, that you were going after your vegan thing we weren't, yet I don't think we were just after that. It was sushi was that terrible that we just it wasn't. It was really good.
Speaker 2:Actually never again, yeah, never uh, we'll do virtual, uh sushi yeah virtual um phil.
Speaker 3:Thank you so much best to jackie.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, say best to jackie too. Yeah, take it easy, man, we'll see you soon. Thank you all right. Thanks so much. Okay, take care, all right. Take care, man. Bye-bye, all right. See you guys next.
