Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Eo. 118 Why we notice each other Flaws/ Guest Comedian Jeanne Whitney
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Why do we secretly feel relieved when we spot a flaw in someone beautiful? In this candid conversation, host Nicky Davis Jr. welcomes comedian Jeanne Whitney to explore the fascinating psychology behind what they call "Pretty Petty" – the tendency women have to notice and sometimes find comfort in other women's imperfections.
The conversation takes a deep dive into learned behaviors, with Nickt revealing how she internalized her mother's habit of immediately spotting flaws in women on TV. Jean confesses that despite disliking this tendency in herself, she still catches herself looking for imperfections when a gorgeous woman enters a room. Together, they unpack whether this behavior is hardwired competition or a coping mechanism for survival in a beauty-obsessed culture.
What makes this episode particularly compelling is how it transforms from a discussion about competition into one about solidarity. When Jeanne shares that learning about Brad Pitt's acne struggles made her feel better about her own skin issues, we see how finding shared human imperfections can actually be empowering: "If he has acne and he's considered one of the most attractive people in the world, that means I can still be attractive with acne."
The conversation takes a powerful turn as they examine how geographic location impacts beauty standards, with Los Angeles creating an especially intense competitive environment. Jeanne’s painful stories about ex-partners who deliberately pointed out her flaws or tried to make her less attractive highlight the toxic dynamics that can emerge when insecurity meets relationships.
By the end, Nicky and Jeanne offer a refreshing alternative to the "Pretty Petty" mindset – the simple yet profound power of giving genuine compliments and focusing on connection rather than competition. Their vulnerable honesty creates a space where listeners can recognize these tendencies in themselves and perhaps begin to break free from beauty-based comparison.
Listen now, then follow Jeanne Whitney on Instagram @Jeannelwhitney and on TikTok @Jeannelwhitney for more of her insightful comedy!
Introducing Sex, Drugs, and Skincare
Speaker 1You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex, drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to Sex, drugs and Skincare. I'm Nikki Davis Jr. I am a stand-up esthetician and a licensed comedian. How clever is that?
Speaker 2guess.
Speaker 1I've been doing skincare for 25 years and this is the only podcast that I'm aware of that is skincare plus comedy, because all of our friends seem to be comedians and, uh, I don't know. Regular people are kind of boring to talk to on podcasts. So yeah, unless they're really controversial, or something yeah, that's a good point. Yeah, we don't know a lot of controversial people, do we? I?
Speaker 3don't like controversial people because there's too much controversy how did you get back here so fast? You just put money in the meter I went outside, walk across the street, put money in the meter, stop for a second smell, the air took head of a joint. Walk back across the street, walked up here and everything's fine oh my god.
Speaker 1So will you give me a five minute warning, by the way? Okay, cool, that's amazing, did you? Didn't even acknowledge like the traffic lights or anything like that no, I walk right across the street.
Speaker 3There's people. At this point, what I did was I just walked and I went to the middle and I remember walking to the middle, I said to myself, oh my god, because I could imagine somebody going to be like, oh no, he's walking across the street in the middle of the podcast, get hit by a car and I thought about that.
Speaker 3I was like somebody would say that he never came back and then it came back and then, as I did that, I walked across, it was expired. I put money in there, then I sat on the side of the road for a second afterwards this is a long explanation.
Speaker 1Hold on, let me finish.
Speaker 3I'm almost done um, and then I lit a joint and then, as I did, it took a toke and every car stopped on both sides, for real, yeah, because the lights had turned red and it was completely open. And I walked across and here I sit in front of you. Wow, so I'm glad you let me finish the story because there was a lot there.
Speaker 1That was a great story babe Well. I'm into skincare.
Speaker 3What can I say? Yeah, is that tired to back up.
Speaker 1No, I have to burp. So today we have a special guest. I haven't seen you in a little while. I think I met you at um marcella's uh hosting class at the um yes, I remember that, yeah and um. Since then, she's recorded an album called passionate aggressive. It's everywhere, so you can stream it everywhere.
Speaker 3I know it's not a great name. I love that so much I can see. I feel that you feel passionate aggressive.
Speaker 1I get that yeah yeah, you definitely do, minus the ate yeah, no wait, what passion aggressive, passionate yeah, well, I was.
Speaker 2I was trying to tell someone I can be very passive, aggressive, but um it auto-corrected to passionate aggressive, so I was like oh, well, there we go auto-correct is like the worst writing. I mean not the worst, the best writing partner sometimes yes, yeah, because I well, I was like that's perfect, because sometimes I can be passive, aggressive, but in a way that's so angry that it's no longer passive, that's true, yeah, but you can't just say aggressive, because that's too aggressive right it's got to be.
Speaker 3No, I'm just a passionate, passionate, aggressive. Yeah, exactly, yeah, you're just passionate about Jean Whitney by the way.
Speaker 1By the way, thank you, yes, thank you so much for being here.
Speaker 2Thanks for having me.
Speaker 1Yes, it's a pleasure. So we're doing these short little podcasts because they're slightly more palatable.
Speaker 3For me. I'm the only one. I don't like this podcast at all and I refuse to be a part of it.
Pretty Petty: Women and Comparison
Speaker 1Yes, we have to make it short for Sandra. It's a short attention span. You're tapped in though. Yeah, I know he's tapped out actually. So today, the topic that I wanted to do this is the one I really wanted the most. It's called Pretty Petty and it's about why women secretly love other women's flaws. And I know a second ago we were kind of talking about that and I know I did not pick this because of Jean, at all Nothing to do with you.
Speaker 3She used that podcast like does he wash his balls enough?
Speaker 1And I'm like well, how does he do his skin care? And it was always about me and I was like wait, is this about me? I'm being passionate about the way I talk to him, does he? Do the dishes does he dry them properly?
Speaker 3exactly, yeah how come is my skin dry and is he too short for me?
Speaker 1so I was like oh wait a second I don't understand the answer is, I'm not gonna tell you, wait, oh, I better get some moisturizer.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's the answer.
Speaker 1Yeah okay okay um, well, the uncomfortable truth is supposedly that, uh, women and I, I don't know, I grew up with this my mom, um, my mom very women and I I don't know, I grew up with this my mom, um, my mom, very much maybe still does. I don't want to throw under the bus, but, uh, she could find a flaw in a woman on TV. In the first two seconds of looking at her, she'd be like, okay, the ratio from her chin to her, her clavicle is too short. She's, uh, you know, like the length from her nose to you know like she would find all these weird imbalances, wow. And so I, I noticed I started doing that too, and, and I noticed, when I started doing comedy, there's so many pretty girls, and yourself included. I, I didn't try to find any flaws in you though.
Speaker 3Well, thank you yeah fine, why did you look at him? I'm joking, I'm fine you're right, you are pretty. I'm totally kidding, like you like trying to be like. See, I told you I'm pretty.
Speaker 1I know, that's what the implication was I was trying to be funny anyways I was at a mic one time I was hosting, and this is my example and maybe you might have had your other. You know your own experiences with this, but I was at a mic and it was like a new comedian girl and she's like super pretty and of course all of the male comedians at the mic are like obsessed with looking at her because she's new meat and you know yeah, and I know right, yeah, when you're new they hone in.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3They've left me alone now.
Speaker 1I know, I know they know better. Yeah, I've stabbed a guy with a pen through his hand once.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 1I can tell you that story another time. But yeah, he was trying. Anyways, I told him I was going to do it. He didn't believe me, so I did it anyway. But the girl was on stage and I'm not an aggressive person.
Speaker 2Not at all. Sarah Connor over here, yeah right, stabbing people with pens, I warned him.
Speaker 1If you knew who it was, you would probably think that it would be okay if I did it. I think it's okay right now and I don't know who it is.
Speaker 2Maybe that's bad, maybe that's bad.
Speaker 3I don't think it's bad because you know, when you find out who it is, you'll know it's good.
Speaker 1Yeah, but anyways, I was looking. Stupidest thing One of her socks was up and one of them had fallen below her ankle and in my very split second in my mind I go guys hate that. And it made me feel a little bit of peace for a second.
Speaker 2And I was like no, that's really dumb. Yeah, you know, I mean I well I cause we live in LA. I think we're just kind of trained to compete with women on beauty standards and, like I went to San Francisco this past weekend and people are not like judging each other's looks up there. They're not Not really. I mean my friends who live up there, they're like scientists and engineers and they're not really putting very.
Speaker 2They're not obsessing over their appearance, so they weren't looking me up and down and they were just like your hair is so nice, it's so pretty. Nobody was like, oh, have you gotten Botox?
Speaker 1or asking me weird questions.
Speaker 2You know I just, it's the culture. I think here that also breeds it a lot more of this competitiveness.
Speaker 1That's it. It's a competition.
Speaker 2And doesn't really matter. I don't know, but I do. I do it too. Um, and I I don't like this about myself, but you know, like if I see a very gorgeous girl walk in a room somewhere, automatically I will look her over and try to find something wrong yeah, see, it's just innate, it's bred into us.
Speaker 1I know and I don't, and I, I don't like that about myself.
Speaker 2I know, and I don't like that about myself, but you know that you don't like that about yourself.
Speaker 1Yeah, and that's so your one, I think that's a very common thing, though. Yeah.
Speaker 3For everybody. Do dudes do that too? Yeah, in some degree they do yes. This person like. Growing up, I was always fat as well as short, so I was always like, oh, this person's shorter, this person's fatter, or like this person, yeah, they're in shape, but, um, they're in shape, but oh, I wonder if maybe he's probably losing a little bit of hair or whatever like there's like, there's something that you just to make yourself feel like we're not that different, but in some weird way me saying oh, we're look, look how similar we are.
Celebrity Flaws as Comfort
Speaker 3I have to be like yeah, look, you also have a flaw like, like it's not even like oh, we're also this, it's also like that, you know. So it's a negative. It is definitely meant to make me feel better.
Speaker 1Yeah.
Speaker 3As opposed to like make us feel like we're united, yeah right.
Speaker 2Well, I will notice if a man is objectively attractive very handsome other men will kind of make jokes about it or they'll be like well, he's gay, oh yes, yeah, that's so funny.
Speaker 3You say that that was.
Speaker 3That's like that was like the go-to thing for like the longest time I remember like, yeah, he's probably gay and you're like and in some reason like and then in your mind, when somebody says that and you're like, oh yeah, maybe it's like, wait, but is this the women that he's going to be going out with? I'm going to be like, you know it doesn't make any sense logically at all, but you're like, okay, what if? Who cares? If he? What if? What if there's an attractive guy I want to talk to?
Speaker 1you know, and he is gay, like can't win.
Speaker 3No, yeah, yeah, I uh, I just something just came into my head, but um, that's good improv too yeah, oh yeah, we do bad improv, in case you're wondering yeah instead of yes, and yeah, we'll do stuff like oh wait, hold on, let me think, let me think about it oh, that's oh dude, that just came into my head.
Speaker 2This is gonna be a good one yeah, yes, and we'll be back and we'll be right back. Well, like um, I've always, uh, struggled with I don't really have any breakouts right now, but I've struggled with breakouts for like over a decade and I I don't I it's genetic that makes me feel so much better.
Speaker 1Really, no, because you're so beautiful.
Speaker 2I'm just joking my mom had acne too and I think it is genetic. Like a dermatologist told me that it's genetic, I was like my brother doesn't have it, though, and the dermatologist was like sometimes it skips a person, so, and my brother is like he works in a factory in Indiana, so he doesn't need good skin but he has great skin, it's so annoying, but I will. When I see a very pretty girl, if she does have acne sometimes I'll be like, oh thank.
Speaker 1God Same. Oh, my God Same. Yeah, just like me, yay, okay.
Speaker 2And it also made me feel better about having acne to hear about celebrities who have it Like. Apparently, brad Pitt has acne he still does. Or he had it before he had it, have it like apparently Brad Pitt has acne, he still does or he had it before he had it. But I guess in movies, like with the technology that's developed, you can see like pock marks on his face.
Speaker 1Oh wow, yeah, some scars. Robert Redford was the same way, really yeah if you look at old pictures like serious pock marks on his face oh wow, but, he's so attractive, it's like you don't. It doesn't matter on men, though. Do it, does it?
Speaker 2I don't know, but I don't know. But they don't wear makeup usually to cover it up.
Speaker 1That's true. So that kind of sucks, yeah, that's true.
Speaker 3That's very interesting too. I remember watching all these 70s shows, 60s shows or whatever. Old detectives and the guys on there have terrible teeth, they're all yellow and they're on their faces or whatever, and the women typically aren't shown that close up, or if they do, they're like super stunning.
Speaker 1It's like there was still this thing like Vaseline over the Vassar over the lens.
Speaker 3So it was like this thing that was even done back then. But the guys were like and it's just a guy, he's just easiest utilitarian, just you know like whatever his mouth smells like cigarettes yeah, I think it's like for survival, though like it's uh, it makes us feel like we can.
Speaker 1I don't's like for survival, though Like it's uh, it makes us feel like we can. I don't know like we can succeed. We can keep going and like, uh, I don't know, maybe it's just for our we do. We need our egos that much that we have to find flaws in other people.
Speaker 3I think, like, like you were saying, like I almost feel like it's you kind of do it, where you're like, oh, she too, like, okay, it's like. I think I think deep down it's just like, oh, yeah, she has it, cool. You know. I mean it's almost like you're like, yeah, it's, it's fine, cool, she's gone through it too. Like, I think, with brad pitt, like when you said that, I was like, oh, that's right. Never in my mind was I like oh, it doesn't make him brad pitt anymore.
Speaker 3That you know, whatever like that I would want to have of his life or something but, it's just kind of like oh yeah, if it really you know, if you're a certain way where people see past certain things and they're like, oh, you're a human being, you know, like your feet are gonna stink yeah, well, I was like if he has acne and he's considered like one of the most attractive people in the world right that that means I'm.
Speaker 2I can still be attractive with acne.
Speaker 1Okay, so now that that's finding something good in it yeah, yeah, I like that.
Speaker 2I guess I was finding something good.
Speaker 1Yeah, so you're not looking at it like, oh well, see that he's not attractive because he's got this thing. It's like no it's like if he can do that and I can just be me, then obviously I'm super hot if he's hot and has acne, right, that's kind of how I looked at it. Yeah, I like that that's a more positive way of looking way.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's like the anti-fox news. Okay, finally, I said it, I don't 115 podcasts.
Men, Rating Systems, and Insecurity
Speaker 1Whatever it is, I you've been waiting for that okay, sorry but yeah, as women, though, we're all competing for, like supposedly we're competing for we're kind of competed for everything, especially in this town, like we're all competing for roles and jobs and but like for men, and then here's what the the thing that pits us against each other, too, is that I've heard people that we know using like the rating system on. They'll call girls by, like you know, a one from a one to a ten like oh, she's at eight.
Speaker 1Yeah no, the men, the men will do it yeah and then you hear that and subconsciously you're like oh well, if he's saying that and this guy's short and bald, then everybody, all guys, must be doing. I was talking about a comedian, that we know.
Speaker 3We're going to divulge all this stuff to you after the show yeah, I got to hear it yeah.
Speaker 1And he's, you know, he's not, he's whatever, he's just very Satan, he's Satan.
Speaker 2I don't even know what he's talking about. He feels probably very insecure about the way that he looks and he sees women as evil because he can't have them, boom, so he has to tear them down in some way.
Speaker 3Yes, I feel like that's like the beginning and end of like a lot of twilight zone episodes. You're like afraid of the thing, or you hate the thing that you can't attain, and then it just kills you and then it just turns you bitter right, you turn into the thing, you turn into, you turn into the thing into the monster or whatever it is like. Yeah, it's fascinating. Yeah, to rate someone, I think it's just to me it feels like it's a high school thing and it's subjective too.
Speaker 2Totally, totally yeah, I mean, my dad would say to me be like you're a 10 gene. You're a 10 and I'm not.
Speaker 1But he thought I was well you are, though, but yeah, but like that's so nice, even your dad was rating you, though my dad was rating me.
Speaker 2Yep but he'd be like. You gotta believe this about yourself. I'm like. My dad would have loved it if I were like a full-blown narcissist, I think he would have been so proud of me. But um, but yeah, so I've had guys that I've dated like rate me, and it kind of hurt my feelings a little bit they actually like people that you were with.
Speaker 1They would say, like, honestly, you're right. And then what would they say?
Speaker 2like you'd be like Jean, honestly and this is just me and I'm biased you're a nine and I would be like okay, so what's the minus one though? Yeah, what are you looking at? Why would you even say that? Just lie to me. Yes, absolutely.
Speaker 1You're supposed to say you're an 11. Yes, that's crazy. I've never had a man tell me that.
Speaker 2I don't even think I would. Yes, but I do.
Speaker 3That's so funny.
Speaker 1That's so bizarre. Yeah, what guy would? I don't ever want you to talk to those people again. Please, I hope you're not friends with those ex-boyfriends of yours, because that's awful.
Speaker 2No, I don't really talk to them anymore.
Speaker 1Did you ask or did they offer you that information?
Speaker 2They just offered it. I hate them I think I was feeling insecure one day and they were like honestly, jean, you're a nine, but I'm biased wait, so nine is like, but everybody else sees you as an eight.
Speaker 3Maybe I like how the mindset probably was like survival mode in that person's head too. Or it was like all right, man, she's fucking smoking. But like okay, I gotta be realistic here. If I say 10, I mean, who's really a 10 right? Here's the thing like, like, in, like a split second, like those are the boyfriends I've had in the past, not not sandro but, um, I've had a boyfriend.
Speaker 1He, he made a point of telling me that I had not good legs and like and and, telling me that, like, things that were actually true about me were not true about me in order to.
Speaker 3He was self-conscious of his own legs he was.
Speaker 1He had probably baby huey legs oh, interesting, okay, he had like a little teeny, tiny torso and like this big button legs, but I never judged him for that. But like he, I remember him saying very specific things to me that like made me feel like, oh, I guess I'm, I'm attractive, you know. And then he would be like you look better without makeup. And then then it went to you should stop brushing your hair.
Speaker 3He's turning you into like a potato sack, like what the hell.
Speaker 1Yeah, and somebody told me that like he's trying to make you ugly so that nobody else will like you and I was like you know what I think you might be right? Yeah, very insecure, very insecure guys. I think I attracted them for a long time.
Speaker 2Yeah, I might still attract them, but I don't know. I it's something I focusing so much on beauty and that's what LA is it just gets very toxic. I love leaving LA where people don't care what they look like. I love that and you're like, oh wow, it doesn't really matter.
Speaker 3Go to seriously this is going to sound. Go to a Walmart for a day in any place that isn't an. La area. And you'll just see people going out to shop, and that's it.
Speaker 2There isn't like they're not trying to find the walmart and burbank.
Speaker 3You know, even if I'm, even if I'm working for walmart, big deal, but I go in there and you'll see people shopping. But you'll also see people like is that an actor that used to be? Is that? Is that wait?
Speaker 1is that like?
Speaker 3you'll like people that were wearing glasses don't want to be seen or you know like which is part of the community. But you see people dressing up to go out. But when you see people just wearing whatever they wear, it's nice You're like oh, there's no pretense here.
Speaker 1I love not looking in the mirror. By the way, too, we moved recently a little bit far away and I there's. I've gone five days without looking in a mirror. At times I don't care what my hair looks like my skin probably is totally dried out and gross, but it feels so good. You have really good skin.
Speaker 2Well, thanks, but.
Speaker 1I'm back here in the place where there's moisture in the skin. Alex, was that your signal? No, okay, just checking. I saw a hand out there.
Speaker 3In this podcast. We like to check in with the producers to make sure that we still can be here. They keep.
Speaker 1They like to randomly kick us out every so often yeah, I just want to make sure that everybody's uh okay, time wise I was just improvising, nikki yes, you did a great job thank you, that's another one too.
Speaker 3That's another one.
Speaker 1Yeah, you did a great job yeah, that's great improv, that's not, that's some quality improv and scene and scene so you have, um, you have, you're with somebody now that doesn't treat you that way, or uh no?
Speaker 2I'm not with anybody right now. I don't treat myself that way. I don't think my friends treat me that way at all. So nobody's really talking to me like that right now. Nobody's really talking to me. But I am dating and I do like it. If I go on a date with someone and they say something about my appearance, yes, of course they don't say anything. I'm just kind of like I think. I think, um, words of affirmation is sort of my love language which is such a cheap and easy love language.
Speaker 1Oh my God, yes, but yeah, I need, I need confirmation, you are beautiful you look like.
Speaker 2By the way. You're like the sunshine. I need, I need confirmation you are beautiful.
Compliments and Self-Worth
Speaker 1You look like by the way. You're like the sunshine, you're like she's like if you're, you are if you're listening and not watching. She just has these like beautiful bright blue eyes and she's got this like glowy blonde hair and you have pretty skin and you just have like just really beautiful coloring. I think I'm making your blush a little bit do you want to go out with me?
Speaker 1no, yes, yes, you've spoken my love language yes, but yeah, I know what you mean, though it's like if somebody doesn't say something about your appearance as a woman, then it feels like almost like an insult yeah, like you.
Speaker 2Just you look nice yeah you look nice.
Speaker 1Yeah, even that is just yeah.
Speaker 3Nobody says, you're not objectifying anything you're not like I think. Sometimes maybe people feel like they're going overboard where they don't want to.
Speaker 3I don't mention her appearance and like oh cool, cool shorts, you know whatever cool shorts, that's just compliment yeah, nice fingernails you know, and then that's it, like you don't say anything else but like, but I think even just saying like, hey, you look nice, that's still like something. Yeah, that you can tell somebody nobody's gonna going to be like what does that mean? Yeah, yeah, I think it's important to definitely. I like, I like it if I meet somebody, or even just talking to somebody, who's like, oh, nice shirt. It's like, oh, thank you. It's like, okay, cool, when you left your place today, you did something right.
Speaker 1That's a good way to.
Speaker 2Yeah, I like giving compliments to people, yeah, yeah, just to make them feel good, exactly.
Speaker 1Even if it's a lie, it feels good to say no. But yeah, I think we should pump each other up. Sometimes I like to give somebody. Like I mean, I haven't done it in a while, but I'll write a note and just give it or put it on them or whatever, and then just walk away and and just be like you know you, you know you like your eyes, or something like that.
Speaker 1I don't do that now because I'm with somebody, but yeah I did do that one time, though, when I ran into somebody's car by accident and then, um, I thought the neighbor across the street was going to report me, because she was out there smoking cigarettes and sweaty sweats and um and so we thought for sure. And then I was like you know what, I actually didn't do anything to the person's car behind me, but I had already written a note she already made herself like.
Speaker 3She's like oh you better, oh, you hit that guy's uh-huh the neighborhood watch.
Speaker 1Yes, smoking cigarettes exactly just on the phone, ripping butts all day long, wow and so I went back and I had already written notes saying like, hey, I accidentally tapped the bumper of your car and I was like you know what fuck that? And I went and I wrote another note and I put it on there and I just I was just like make sure she saw me do it and I just wrote I think you have a really nice smile and then I just left it on there see, I like that you flipped that into a completely positive moment.
Speaker 3Yeah, now that person is like I do, that's cool, that's nice. Yeah, my bumper.
Speaker 1I'm not mad that it's dented.
Speaker 3Yeah, I don't even know what's going on. My taillight's out.
Speaker 1It's fine.
Speaker 3Should we do? We have to. I think it's time, All right all of our cars are being towed. I just got a text, so we have to end the episode. But where can people find you? On social media or you don't have to give out your home address.
Speaker 2Where can people drop off compliments? It's six, no, what do?
Speaker 3people do drive-bys, if you want to compliment me.
Speaker 2I'm at Jean L Whitney on Instagram and Jean Whitney Comedy on TikTok. Okay, and I think those are the major places you can find me. Are you a good TikToker? No, I've been posting a little bit. I think those are the major places you can find me. Are you a good TikToker? Uh, no, I've been posting a little bit lately.
Wrapping Up and Social Media
Speaker 1I'll follow you, cause I need to learn how to Tik TOK. I'm not good at it, yeah.
Speaker 2I feel like I get more hits on Tik TOK than I think I might've been shadow banned from Instagram actually.
Speaker 1Oh, now that makes you a more interesting person.
Speaker 2I was going to say I want to know why I feel like I've been shadow banned for political stuff because I I don't see very many people viewing my story. I feel like that's.
Speaker 3I think that's more prevalent than like. At first I thought it was like oh, yeah, of course, whatever. But like I think it's more prevalent than known, because or it happens more often than people realize Cause because, yeah, I see people that I'm like oh, they're like, they have really funny stuff or like they're on this thing or they collaborated with this person, but their individual page is like just kind of like dwindled, like they don't pump that out yeah, it's very, it's a power move I don't like it what's?
Speaker 1why are they not pumping me out?
Speaker 3because I'm not controversial, I just well, that's the thing you've been shadow banned because you're not oh, that's right, that's it.
Speaker 1Yes, they don't. They don't want you in the alley.
Speaker 3They want you in the middle of the road. Exactly Boom Roasted we watch.
Speaker 2The Office a lot. Sorry, guys, maybe I'm just boring and that's why they've shadowbanned me. I don't know.
Speaker 1No, I'm going to look at your content now. Now I want to know Okay, well, thank you, come back for another episode.
Speaker 3Yes, please, yeah, we'll have you back for another 12 minute episode All right, good.
Speaker 2All right, all right.
Speaker 1We'll see you guys next week. Bye, bye.
