Sex, Drugs and Skincare
Comedian and esthetician, Nicky Davis, along with side kick/boyfriend/assistant Sandro Iocolano, interviews comedians, actors and other practitioners as we learn about the latest, as well as the oldest techniques for staying young. We get weird but educational.
Sex, Drugs and Skincare
What Happens When You Pick Your Face? Willem Dafoe Knows
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What happens when Willem Dafoe (COMEDIAN JEFF RICHARDS in deep fake ) drops by to discuss the fastest way to destroy your skin? Pure comedic chaos with surprising skincare insights.
Our special guest takes us on a wild ride through the devastating effects of methamphetamine on skin health, exploring the phenomenon known as "meth face" with his trademark intensity and unexpected humor. From the shocking science of formication (where 40-70% of users feel insects crawling under their skin) to the visible deterioration caused by dehydration and restricted blood flow, this episode peels back the layers on substance-related skin damage in a way only we could deliver.
Between fits of laughter, we uncover genuinely useful skincare knowledge – including Willem's unconventional hotel toiletry hack that might just change your routine. "You know they say it's for the body, but that's just so you won't use it on your face, but you can use it on your face," he shares with conspiratorial delight. This revelation alone makes the episode worth your time.
The conversation weaves through profound observations about art, substance use, and self-awareness, punctuated by Willem's philosophical gems like "You have to know what's wrong with you before you can figure out how to treat you." Despite the outlandish tangents involving everything from Jefferson Starship to book clubs for blind people, the episode delivers genuine value for anyone interested in understanding how lifestyle choices dramatically impact appearance.
Ready for a skincare discussion unlike any you've heard before? Subscribe now and join us for an episode that will leave you both more knowledgeable and thoroughly entertained. As Willem might say, "You've done your work, baby."
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Welcome to Sex, Drugs, and Skincare
Speaker 1You are listening to, watching, hearing, smelling, tasting and feeling sex drugs and skincare. Like and subscribe. Hey, welcome back to sex drugs and skincare. I am Nikki Davis junior. You are a junior, right, I am a junior, okay good. Yeah and I. It's been a little while since we taped so. I'm trying to remember how to talk.
Speaker 2You look into the camera and you say stuff, but eventually time goes by and you go home. That's usually how a lot of stuff works. I'm so excited, me too. It's nice, but it's been a minute since we've been in studio. We've been out gallivanting. It's a lot more work to gallivant than people realize. People think it's like just oh, my God, this guy must be just like skipping around, just all galloping?
Speaker 1No, because in a gallop eventing it'd be like guy eventing.
Speaker 2Oh, that's right. Yeah, it's too binary now. Yeah, they make it too confusing. But so how have you been? I haven't seen you since earlier, since the show started.
Speaker 1I'm fantastic Okay.
Speaker 3Yeah.
Speaker 2I'm really doing you.
Speaker 1I like the necklace choice, thank you. What am I wearing? Oh, yeah, thank you. Oh, with me, as always, by the way. First of all, 25 years doing skincare or something like that, and I'm a standup, so standup esthetician, licensed comedian, and please subscribe wherever the button is. And then thank you for that help. It's all around us. And then with me, as always, is Sandro.
Speaker 2I'm always with me. You are, you're always with yourself. I'm like that Fleetwood Mac song.
Speaker 1Which one I just agreed. I don't know just any of them.
Speaker 2They're all about something meaningful.
Speaker 1Pick any one and you'll probably get it right, just laying down in some tall grass, yeah just let me do my stuff, dude, let me do my stuff. We have a really special guest today.
Speaker 2I'm very excited we had another guest but they couldn't make it. But this guest is even better than the first guest. So I don't want to say any. You know I don't want the first guest to hear us because, but you'll recognize this guest. They've been in a lot of stuff. They've been in one of my favorite movies of all time, um uh, american psycho. I'm sure that was fantastic. He had a very, very pivotal role. He's been the batman movies. I mean, do you have anything you want to say about this guy?
Speaker 1no, I mean, I, I'm just so blown away that we were even able to get him on such short notice. Well, let's, let's, uh, let's blow away everyone else too.
Speaker 2Okay, please give it up for the great Willem Dafoe.
Speaker 1Wow.
Speaker 3It's great to be here, and let me just tell you, I love that necklace too. I used to have cubic zirconium rings, but then I lost most of them. Quick disclaimer, too I took not only an edible, but also a half a joint I just started getting into marijuana.
Speaker 2I never did before, so it's kind of fun, wow. I mean you've done a lot of like your acting roles. You have such range in what you do and you've told me you've never done marijuana before because it seems like you're you know it's.
Speaker 3It's not that I haven't done it before. I never really stuck oh gotcha it just never stuck, and so I I wasn't going to beat a dead horse, and I also wanted to be an actor and I knew if I canceled one out of the other, I I might be very successful. But I didn't plan anything. It wasn't planned Good.
Speaker 2Some of the best things in life are not planned. All of the best things. Okay, so you had to one up me.
Speaker 1I'm sorry.
Speaker 2All the people that one up you have to. But no, it's true, I like that. You followed your rhythm and you just kind of went with it. Plus, you don't want to beat dead horses because no actor has ever done anything after beating a dead horse. No, that's pretty much it.
Speaker 3No, the only thing you want to beat a horse. If they're going to die, then you can maybe beat them a little bit at the very end, but it's not advisable and maybe people wouldn't like that. Not good for PR, yeah, not good for.
Speaker 1PR.
Speaker 2Yeah, not good for PR yeah.
Speaker 3Doesn't help anything. It doesn't help the situation or anything like that. That's why I play pickleball now. I play pickleball, I get high and I play pickleball and I'm very successful Wow.
Speaker 1Like. In what way are you successful?
Speaker 3Well, I just think, you know, I was able to do a certain amount of films, and I was lucky enough to be part of a certain amount of films, and from there it's all peach cobbler, you know. I mean, it was like getting your foot caught in a door. It's not hard to do, but it you don't, you don't try to do it.
Speaker 1I was actually referring to, uh, to the pickleball. I thought you were being very successful at pickleball and I didn't know.
Speaker 3Oh well, no, it's because you don't have to run as much. That's what I love about pickleball you just don't have to run as much and I love that. And I can play in my slippers if I want. I've got my own court.
Speaker 2I could see you doing that. I don't know much about you, but I've always been a big fan and I could see you playing in your slippers and then just looking over and just giving a smile Like right, Because you're very, very good.
Speaker 3Well, first playing with my slippers.
Speaker 1Oh, you're playing with your slippers.
Speaker 3Well, well, I would make one the bad guy and the bad slipper and the other one the bad, or the good, the good slipper and the bad slipper, and they would go at it. And that's what I learned, uh learned primarily at the workshop, and uh, cupertino when I started oh wow, wow, cupertino yeah, cupertino, that's what I have. It was an what we used to say. It was an opportunity.
Speaker 1I was going to say a Cooper-tunity.
Speaker 3Yeah, well, if you like tuna, sure, but some people don't like tuna.
Speaker 2See, this is already going even better than I thought. Willem Dafoe is really bringing some action here, and he's also talking about Cooper Tuno, which the only time I've ever heard of that was when I got my iPhone for the first time and I had to set my time zone. I was like where is this? You know, that's a little joke that everybody's done.
Speaker 3About Cupertino.
Speaker 2Well, you know.
Speaker 3Cupertino. Well, it's Cupertino or Cupernato. You know, that was the Japanese restaurant that had the sushi. That was everything was deep fried, but there was a line out the door. People couldn't get enough was deep pride, but there was a line out the door, people couldn't get enough but, it's, it's, it's difficult.
Speaker 3I mean, I think it's difficult these days to be an actor. I think it's difficult for people to be actors. I think it's hard to do things. I think it's not easy to not do things and, um, you know, the great divide is only only divided to an extent. You don't have to make it the whole day.
Speaker 2Wow, isn't that right that's very, very profound, considering that the great divide is actually more unifying, as well as what I think you're saying and I I find that very interesting well, actually I'm not saying anything, am I?
Speaker 1no, you're not well, that explains how I'm feeling, which is confused. Yeah, well, that's it, and then?
Speaker 3what about more than a feeling? Remember that song, I do yeah, more than a feeling, so you know it's. I remember just uh. Jefferson starship came over to my house one time wow this is in the valley I I had pretty much two acres this is 1973. And there was this profound nature that you feel that you don't know what you're doing or where you're going, or what you want to do with your life, or what makes sense. So you just smile.
Speaker 2That's great advice. That's all me ask you. This willem and this kind of brings us into the subject matter today. But you're out there in in the valley, you're two acres and you're smiling and you got a fantastic smile. Is there something skincare related that puts you there, that makes you feel confident where you're, like I'm? That's a great question.
Speaker 1I don't know.
Speaker 2I almost did an impression of you, because I don't want to do that, but just to be like I feel good, does it what gives?
Speaker 3you. Well, to be honest with you, I couldn't tell you exactly where I got it, but one of the different hotels that have the cold cream. You know they say it's for the body, but that's just so. You won't use it on your face, but you can use it on your face.
Speaker 2Ah, okay, I didn't realize that.
Speaker 3It's really good. I really like it. I think it's really good, really good, I really like it. I think it's really good. Um, but you know, you don't know which hotel it was in and you know they put them on the wall now. So you, you can't really steal. I guess you could if you got one of those little containers you could, you could bring your own in.
Speaker 2Yes, yeah, you could bring your own in and, like you could like, take home lotions. I mean, there's, there's, there's angles for all of it well, yeah, you could be a renegade, you could be uh uh, bruce lee with uh training wheels, you know it's um.
Speaker 3I remember fugazi. One time fugazi came over to my house when I was in uh, I lived in malibu. The whole band, fugazi. For some reason bands, just like the whole bands, like to hang out with me and somebody said it's a can of corn, and I guess, because technically it was corn, but they meant baseball-wise. It's an easy catch, it's a pop-up.
Speaker 2It's a can of corn, it's a pop-up. Okay, it's a can of corn, it's a pop-up.
Speaker 3Okay, it's a can of corn, but this corn wasn't actually a can of corn and it was cream corn and not a lot of people like cream corn, so it just sat there.
Speaker 2That's a sad story. That's a really, really sad story for the corn. It's hard to catch cream corn, yeah, especially if it's like if you think, if you, if you think it's a fly, ball, right, but it's actually cream corn well, we could play semantics all day long you're right. Let's not, let's not even mess with that. We can, we can play semantics all day long. Nikki, I want to ask you a question. Yeah, what the hell is today's show about?
Meth Face: The Fastest Way to Glow Down
Speaker 1well, you know, I made a choice for you, willem, um, since we didn't have a chance to talk to you ahead of time, because I know this was short notice for you. Uh, I wanted to talk about, um, what I want. I want you to choose. Actually, do you want skin care for men made simple, or meth face, the fastest way to glow down?
Speaker 3meth face the fastest way to glow down. Okay, uh, hands hands down okay, I like that.
Speaker 2You answered that almost like it was like a jeopardy. Yeah, hands down, that's nice, all right that's very, that's very funny.
Speaker 3I really like it. You know this show makes me just. You know you don't need, uh, a diuretic or uh, you just feel like you could just go to the bathroom watching the show. And I don't mean that in a profound sense, it just it's very relaxing from the waist down. The show is very good.
Speaker 1I really like it we find that it stimulates peristalsis in us as well. Absolutely, yeah, I like that what is peristalsis? Peristalsis is thatalsis is when you get the poop tingles and your guts are trying to push it out.
Speaker 3push out the oh, I thought that was the Gatorade.
Speaker 2It's probably a gateway. Gatorade's a gateway to the peristalsis.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's really fun to play around with it, the different words and everything.
Speaker 1All right, so let's start by just I'm going to just give a little bit of information and then feel free to interject whenever you feel like it. There are some surveys that show hundreds of thousands of.
Speaker 2Americans Survey says sorry, I just wanted to say it.
Speaker 1Thank you, you guys ready to?
Speaker 3play the feud.
Speaker 2You're so talented.
Speaker 1That was fantastic. Wow, that was right on.
Speaker 2yeah, yeah that was beautiful.
Speaker 1Thousands of Americans actively use meth each year and the physical toll is very shocking. I don't know if you've seen that show Faces of Meth. So we've all seen those where you see like the mugshot of the perfectly normal face and then you see the guy like in less than a year and he's all sunken in and he just unrecognizable.
Speaker 3So we were going to kind of break down unless you have yeah I was just gonna say we're all so mortal, we're so human that it's it's be, you know, on all four cylinders every single day. People just drop out all the time. So I think getting into drugs is it's a gateway to get into other things obviously as far as crime and things. But some people actually get into art and they're great artists and they're on meth, and I don't advocate this. But some people become great artists on drugs.
Speaker 1That's a really good point.
Speaker 2I hadn't even thought about that and it's funny. Some people become great artists on drugs, but the drugs never do anything more than just be drugs. Is that interesting? I'm not sure what you mean. The drugs don't evolve the people on the people the people on the drugs.
Speaker 2They're the ones that evolve. But drugs would just sit there. People like you know you don't need drugs. It's like, well, no, drugs don't need us because they, you know, they would just be right there, right? So I don't know, I I just I think we should do drugs.
Speaker 1Okay.
Speaker 2I like that stance. I'm going along.
Speaker 1I think that's what you were saying, Willem.
Speaker 3Well, I'm saying it's a treatment for things. If you're nervous, you have a cigarette. If you want to dance, you have some alcohol. If you want to run down the highway, you do meth or something else like meth. Yeah, but you got to be careful, because once you do it once, that's all it takes Right. So you got to be very careful of that.
Speaker 1Yeah, you can run a lot. You don't want to run that much if you're doing that much. No, no, you don't want to run at all.
Speaker 3really, it's very hard on your kneecaps and better to walk briskly than to run at all wow, I walk like my iced tea.
Speaker 2Yeah, brisk, oh nice, I like it so let's, how does how?
Speaker 3does iced tea walk? That's the other question. How? Does that you could have gone down that path.
Speaker 2That's true iced well, because he was in the law and order for a while oh, oh, iced, oh, iced tea, iced tea.
Speaker 1Yes, I'm sorry. Yes, I blew the reference.
Speaker 2No, it's okay, you don't blow the reference.
Speaker 1I didn't blow iced tea, no.
Speaker 2But that's the reference, right. Okay, got it. We're fine, we're good, okay, good. Dehydration, what did I say? Hydration yes. Meth gives you severe hydration, dehydration.
Speaker 1Dehydration suppresses your appetite, which is going to make you lose a lot of weight. And then I'm sure you've seen them their faces, they really start to sink in and their skin turns gray because of all the constricted blood vessels. I guess meth constricts your blood vessels.
Speaker 2Yeah, I guess it does. Yeah, because then it cuts off circulation and so your face turns gray and then you know it's sunken in. We've all seen Breaking Bad. We know what it can do to people. You know, that's more of a documentary than it is a PSA.
Speaker 3Right yeah, this is Jesse Pinkman. I know all about it.
Speaker 2Okay, bitch right, yeah, this is jesse pinkman. I know all about it. Okay, bitch, see, he's got that's. That's what I'm saying. It's like, once it's there, it's there. That's, that's meth talk.
Speaker 3That's the people with meth talk yeah yo, I don't think you understand what I'm trying to get across here. Okay, all right, I need to go to the grocery store and get some whipped cream. Okay, okay okay. Bitch.
Speaker 2You have to end everything with bitch. You have to. They just like whip it. And then I like, it's like, whip it. But then you have the ice cream, then you have the whipped cream. Oh yeah, you could do the nitrous oxide, but then you also, that's like, I think like a fat kid had to definitely figure that out because I was just. You know it's very efficient. It's very efficient because I was just you know it's very efficient. It's very efficient. You just shove it in your mouth and you're like, oh, I'm also getting really high, and it's not just me, you know, running from my feelings.
Speaker 2Well, you've diverted, now to doing whippets which it's like meth, but it's not meth. It's really not like meth.
Speaker 1Let's go back to talking about meth. This is what I wanted to just bring up really fast, and this is something I learned today that one of the things that ruin the skin when you're doing meth is something called formication, and I had to read that twice and then look up the word. Is that the?
Speaker 2California, that's not the Chili Peppers song. Is California occasion? No Okay.
Speaker 3It's very close.
Speaker 2It is. It is yes, thank you Thank you.
Speaker 1I feel validated yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah. So what is Nikki? What is formication?
Speaker 1It's when they feel like there's ants crawling all over them and they start picking at their skin. And about 40 to um, up to between 40 and 70 percent of the users that do meth are doing that to their faces oh wow, oh no.
Speaker 2So it's not actually like like skin, like pimples and skin issues.
Speaker 1They're actually picking at their face scratching, picking, yeah, so they get sores and scars and oh wow yeah, I mean I've taken a lot of aspirin before and felt really itchy, so is that?
Speaker 3did you not have any water with it, or what happened? Why did you feel itchy?
Formication and Skin Picking
Speaker 2I don't know. I think it's because of it was like the drugs that maybe like they were um synthetic in the body, you know, and I don't think it was aspirin.
Speaker 2I think I had taken a lot of vicodin I was gonna say, and I got like really itchy because I kept, I kept having tooth pains all the time on purpose to go to the dentist and then they would give me stuff. But yeah, as I'm like, oh my god, I feel itchy and I was like I thought it was something that actually does make you itchy it does?
Speaker 2yeah, because your body's, like you know, reacting to it or whatever. Or it's like some sort of a reaction to the dopa. What is it uh, I don't know exactly what's in it like the um, it's the oxycodone, basically the oxycontin or an oxycodone it's the heroin that's in it.
Speaker 3Whatever, yeah, I figure what it's called well it's, it's biodegradable uh, micro units of uh, anything that's nitrogen, becomes nitrogen plus nitrogen. Second, you know on and on and on, but it's a timetable, basically it's a timestamp, and it's hard to figure out. Nobody really knows the answers, honestly.
Speaker 2Wow, it's like every one of my teachers.
Speaker 1Nobody has the answers.
Speaker 2No, no, it's just like. Well, this could be it, but I don't know. And then you go out and you figure out the rest of stuff for yourself. It's amazing. Well, you've done very well for yourself, Thank you. I learned a lot about what's going on in the world. Now I'm reading here something and I'm reading the notes you have, because I'm curious.
Speaker 1Elevated cortisol and stress.
Speaker 2That is also. It's bad for your skin. It works on your hormones in your body and that's because, like you would take, if you, if you had meth, that would happen. Yes, you would raise your cortisol gotcha.
Speaker 1Cortisol is a word everybody's throwing around right? Have you heard that of that? Well, cortisol, cortisol, yeah, well it's been around for a long time.
Speaker 3It's. It's been around for a long time. It's been rebranded and remanufactured. But you can get I get horse tranquilizers, because I'm afraid of going downstairs. I take those and I'm on some other things. But yeah, I think you have to know what's wrong with you before you can figure out how to treat you, you know.
Speaker 2Yeah, these are very very good points and I never even thought about that because it's so simple. You got to kind of figure out what's going on before you can treat anything.
Speaker 3Right, it's like 31 flavors. Has anyone ever counted all of them? Are we sure there's 31?
Speaker 1No, that's a good point, no.
Speaker 2No. And is it supposed to be 31 because one, because a couple months have 31 days.
Speaker 1I was going to say maybe one for each tooth if you've had a few removed oh yeah, back to meth, back to meth see, everything goes back to meth and everything goes back to meth.
Speaker 3But I once did a tweet and I don't do twitter anymore, but I did a tweet about. I said you do the math. It was my most popular tweet. And for a while. I just didn't know how to top it, so I kind of quit.
Speaker 1You just closed your account after that. That was your swan song.
Speaker 3I closed a lot of things. I closed the door on my foot. I closed shop up. I bought a shop just to close it up. No, that's it. I try to stay in shape. I have yogurt, I do some sit-ups. It's not hard, but it is taxing. It's hard to be available to myself, to be honest with you, and I don't get a moment alone without myself. So it's just, it's a lot.
Speaker 1It sounds like it. Do you find also I was just going to say I did notice that you are usually in really great shape.
Speaker 3I'm speaking to you. Thanks a lot. Yeah, I've let myself go that. People used to call me Willow Willow, Willow, Willow, Willow. Come here, Willow this, Willow that, but now I'm shaped more like a pillow. Anyway, it's a tough crowd, a tough crowd. I'm going to be at Zonkers in St Louis the 13th or the 17th and I'm going to be doing my magic trick. I'm not doing it as my normal name, so you're not going to find out, you just have to get lucky. But if you hear about a magic show, show up.
Speaker 2Wow, I like that. That's like a very like. That's like one of those internet things where you have to kind of do the work to find out where the show is, and it makes it cool.
Speaker 1You heard it here though? Yeah, well, you heard it, yeah.
Speaker 2Yeah, it's here.
Speaker 1Yeah, it's here.
Speaker 2Yeah, we heard it.
Speaker 1That's exciting.
Speaker 2I think it's really cool yeah.
Willem's Hotel Skincare Secret
Speaker 3What is it September? When it's? You know I might've got the dates wrong on that, but something like September 10th or 13th or something. I have to look into my date book. I should have been ready. I should have known that. You would probably ask me where my show was when it was.
Speaker 2I think that's probably me. I shouldn't have asked that. I should have probably vetted. I had you vet the question first before I asked.
Speaker 3That's the problem. I'd rather you, Eddie, vetted the question before you asked.
Speaker 2There we go.
Speaker 3That's it. That's my pearl jam, but it's neither here nor there. It's not one thing or another. It's the snake climbing up the wall. Where is it going? Where is the snake going?
Speaker 1Wow, it's really interesting to have the insight into Willem Dafoe's brain and what you're actually actually thinking behind your eyes it's not even that I'm thinking.
Speaker 3I might not be thinking right now.
Speaker 2I'm not even blinking wow, you are, you do, you do a lot and you in you have such a way of commanding and the way you like. You're very thoughtful in what you say and I really appreciate that and I appreciate very thoughtful.
Speaker 3Well, that's thoughtful for you to say thank you very much.
Speaker 2I appreciate that as well. Um, I do want to ask you, though you've been taking and you say you just got into marijuana because now it's starting to stick right and we're talking about meth have you noticed any skin changes because of marijuana? Have you have your skin?
Speaker 3well, it's only munchier, like, like I said before, it's only been about two weeks of smoking pot. I think I'm gonna be all right. Yeah, thanks for your concern. Well, I'm just letting you know, I know you're coming at me with your chest out and I I appreciate that, but I also you know, listen, I'm. You know, I have a. I have a collection of paintings that would take anybody out. I could buy anything with the paintings I have, so I don't need to argue with anybody today.
Speaker 1I felt that way too, and I'm glad you brought that up, because I felt you did feel a little cocky when you asked that yeah.
Speaker 2I'm sorry Now that I think about it In retrospect. That was a bit brash, so I'm sorry about that.
Speaker 3Yeah, and when you say brash, you don't need brass, you don't have to use brass with brash. You know this isn't the Third Street Orchestra or something like that. I want to ask you guys a question. You guys have been together for a few years now and you're very close and you love each other. Have you ever thought about holding each other's hands and really thinking, you know, really getting into some satanic kind of stuff? You know, I have a guy in chesapeake, new jersey, who has these fireworks that were giant, but he also said sold sex toys.
Speaker 3anyways, I would like this to recommend you guys to him yeah, please for a retreat, absolutely because I just thought you know, and that's, you just have to give me 300 each okay, that's not bad, is it? Is it?
Speaker 2non-refundable, as if I'll do it?
Speaker 3No, it's. I don't know the difference between those two things, but I'm going to say if you want it, you can get it, and if you don't want it, you don't have to get it.
Speaker 2I think we'll do it. Isn't that right? Yeah, yeah, it's life. No one's forcing you, no one's twisting your arm. You do, you do, you don't, you don't.
Speaker 1We were thinking about ayahuasca, but I think the occult may be more our speed.
Speaker 2Yeah, I think so. Yeah, that's the thing People are always like we try ayahuasca but what you really want is a gateway worship.
Speaker 3So why don't you just go there first? Well, because people don't have a real good connect for that. You know, not everybody knows everybody, but you can be the toast of the party without even going to the party. If a story that everyone likes is told about you, it's, that's about it. You've done your work, baby. You've done your work, baby. That You've done your work, baby.
Speaker 2That's it. Yeah, I think we've learned a lot in this kind of section here. Now I have read some of your timeline visible changes that often appear. I'm sorry, what was the question? I'm looking over here. Oh, there was just one more last thing that I wanted to talk about.
Speaker 1It's really more about this is like the last thing that sort of will contribute to your face really aging is the dry mouth that you get, and you can get that. Heroin addicts get that as well.
Speaker 2Dry mouth.
Speaker 1Yeah, the more dry your mouth is, the more you are prone to cavities, and they're probably not brushing their teeth or they're over brushing them, I'm assuming.
Speaker 3So that will make your face sort of start to cave in after a while.
Speaker 1Well, so, how are you? How do you get rid?
Speaker 2of a dry mouth, I guess you would take some, um, some water. No, is it water is? Would drinking water do it? Or would you have to drink water and also get off of meth?
Closing Thoughts and Book Club
Speaker 3oh, oh okay, you're saying someone on meth yes yes yeah, oh okay, I, because I was like I thought I drank enough water. Sometimes you don't drink enough water. Also, I heard you have to put a little pinch of Himalayan salt in the water.
Speaker 2Yeah.
Speaker 3Yep, that'll help too.
Speaker 2And in the meth.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, you do the meth, you do the meth exactly Put a little pinch.
Speaker 2Well, that's the truth, because you put a little pinch in there and you're good.
Speaker 1yeah well, willem, it was really nice to have you.
Speaker 2We learned a lot today, my gosh you, uh, your your skincare routine, the fact that you're so honest about your drug use and you're very, very vulnerable, and you showed a lot of different sides of yourself today. So I want to really really you know thank you so much Thank you yeah.
Speaker 3Listen, you don't have to tell me that you had a good time. I had a really good time. I don't mind sitting in with you and hanging out with you guys, so anytime you need me, let me know. I also want to say I have a book club that I've been uh getting on its way. It's a book club. It's books for blind people, you know, because a book's a book and you touch a book, you feel a book. It doesn't matter if you can see the words or not, it's a book. So, anyway, I'm, my instagram is uh at the je, the Jeff Richards, and that's it. I you know. Thank you for having me, thanks.
Speaker 1No, this was fantastic, thank you, this is fantastic.
Speaker 2Well, there's our, there's our, there's our cue. Yeah, we have to get going. Thank you so much for being here, thank you. If you see Jeff, tell him. We said hi, yeah.
Speaker 3You know, listen, trust me, I'm going to tell them. You said hi.
Speaker 2And good luck with the weed. Yeah, good luck. Careful, don't drive.
Speaker 3Thanks a lot.
Speaker 2All right, take it easy, buddy.
Speaker 1All right take it easy. Thank you so much. We'll see you again. We'll definitely have you back. Yeah, I've been Nikki Davis Jr and I've been Yocolano Sandro.
Speaker 2Nice.
Speaker 1Yeah, okay.
