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But I my hope and plan"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2588.429,"endTime":2591.699,"body":"for this podcast is to be a"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2588.429,"endTime":2591.699,"body":"powerhouse in the queer"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2591.699,"endTime":2596.979,"body":"community at large for people to"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2591.699,"endTime":2596.979,"body":"come to for comfort. So thank"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2597.699,"endTime":2601.809,"body":"thank you all for being here for"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2597.699,"endTime":2601.809,"body":"the first episode. Thank you."},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2602.349,"endTime":2606.279,"body":"And I can't wait for our next"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2602.349,"endTime":2606.279,"body":"one. I can't wait for I can't"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2606.279,"endTime":2607.929,"body":"wait to see where we take this."},{"speaker":"Tamsyn","startTime":2608.32,"endTime":2610.72,"body":"Thank you for"},{"speaker":"Tamsyn","startTime":2608.32,"endTime":2610.72,"body":"hostessing. Yes. Thank"},{"speaker":"Mia","startTime":2610.719,"endTime":2612.399,"body":"you. Absolutely. Thank you,"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2612.489,"endTime":2614.019,"body":"of course. Thank you"}]}