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So"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4514.97,"endTime":4517.52,"body":"if there's anybody who wants to"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4517.52,"endTime":4520.91,"body":"look at any of that that's"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4517.52,"endTime":4520.91,"body":"available. I do know that that"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4520.91,"endTime":4526.94,"body":"is Mr. Mission transition. And"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4520.91,"endTime":4526.94,"body":"it's just Mr. Mission transition"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4526.97,"endTime":4531.32,"body":"all one word. You know, just how"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4526.97,"endTime":4531.32,"body":"to tie it up, though, you know,"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4531.32,"endTime":4534.38,"body":"we do appreciate everybody"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4531.32,"endTime":4534.38,"body":"listening. 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And but"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4549.77,"endTime":4552.41,"body":"otherwise, until next time,"},{"speaker":"Rylie","startTime":4549.77,"endTime":4552.41,"body":"guys, thank you for listening."},{"speaker":"Jess","startTime":4553.249,"endTime":4554.029,"body":"Thank you"}]}