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Very much. So."},{"speaker":"Blair","startTime":2326.56,"endTime":2330.85,"body":"Yeah. Everyone that's grumpy"},{"speaker":"Blair","startTime":2330.85,"endTime":2333.61,"body":"before coffee and after coffee"},{"speaker":"Blair","startTime":2330.85,"endTime":2333.61,"body":"and during coffee."},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2336.25,"endTime":2342.43,"body":"I can imagine. Do you?"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2336.25,"endTime":2342.43,"body":"Do you to make the donuts?"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2342.46,"endTime":2343.84,"body":"They're in the store in the"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2342.46,"endTime":2343.84,"body":"mornings?"},{"speaker":"Blair","startTime":2344.11,"endTime":2347.44,"body":"No, we get them shipped"},{"speaker":"Blair","startTime":2344.11,"endTime":2347.44,"body":"in from bakery and Lawrence. Oh,"},{"speaker":"Blair","startTime":2347.44,"endTime":2347.86,"body":"okay."},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":2347.92,"endTime":2352.99,"body":"Okay. 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