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Maybe like"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":4981.35,"endTime":4984.05,"body":"Vanessa will show her."},{"speaker":"Charli Kate","startTime":4987.8,"endTime":4991.76,"body":"Oh, I have to drop."},{"speaker":"Charli Kate","startTime":4987.8,"endTime":4991.76,"body":"Thank you all again so much."},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":4992.84,"endTime":4994.88,"body":"Thank you, everybody."},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":4992.84,"endTime":4994.88,"body":"Have a good one. Thank you"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":4994.88,"endTime":4997.46,"body":"everyone for joining us and"},{"speaker":"Vanessa","startTime":4994.88,"endTime":4997.46,"body":"transcending humanity. Bye bye."}]}