THE KARMELO ANTHONY TRIAL,,,,,The Breakdown

The Karmelo Anthony case has grown beyond Texas and is now drawing national attention. Some see racial injustice, while others see justice being served. As tensions rise and opinions divide, one thing is certain—two families will never be the same.

Join Thee, Pooh, and Texas as they break down the case, the controversy, and the facts. Was it cold-blooded murder or self-defense? Hear the crew's verdict in this powerful discussion.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_01 0:14

What's up, y'all? This is your boy Big Thieve. Coming to y'all one more time with that unscript. Y'all know what it is. It's Saturday night. We got two special guests on here, and I'm proud to introduce to my left. We got that girl CC, aka Pooh. Good evening, CC. What's happening with you? Got my boy Texas over here to the right of me.

SPEAKER_02 0:36

What's going on, man?

SPEAKER_01 0:38

What's going down?

SPEAKER_02 0:39

Man, nothing, man.

SPEAKER_01 0:40

Hey man, y'all been asking about it for the longest. So, I mean, we had to jump on and go ahead and make this thing happen. We talked to y'all tonight about that Carmelo Anthony uh situation. It happened over a year ago, and he was put in a bad situation for one. But for those that don't know about it, which should be very few. Everybody should know about this because it's everywhere. We're gonna go ahead and jump on into it. Carmelo was attacked at a damn track meet in Frisco, Texas. It happened on the weekend when hardly too many people there before the spoke schools showed up. He was under a tent. This is from what we've been getting from the news. He was under a tent, but it was a different team. It was a different school. But he knew somebody at that school. That person told him, hey, you can come on over here because it was raining pretty heavy. So anyway, to speed it up a little bit, he was approached by the Metcalf twins. One of them is not with us anymore, the other still is. And it was a few more other kids that was around. He was attacked, and according to everything that I see, and y'all can hey say what y'all feel about it too. From the information that I see that I've got from the media, I saw looking in, it looks like it was provoked, but it doesn't look like he's the one who did the provoking. It looked like they jumped this little guy because they didn't want him over there. He was supposedly one of the Metcalf kids was told him that he needed to move out from under their tent. Why? I don't know. But they told him he needed to move. Words were exchanged, they got into a little tussle, and one of the twins ended up getting fatally stabbed. Now, to me, from everything we've been getting, that sounds like it's self-defense. Now, other people say it different. This is turned into a racial thing, which is it didn't have to, because to me it's just cutting dry. Somebody put their hands on you, you got a right to defend yourself. You know, what do y'all think about that? Because I mean this is this is really messing up uh the the uh more of America, you know, where it's turned into a black and white thing, and you know, it is what it is. It's injustice.

SPEAKER_02 3:02

You know, I think well what I heard facts, it really what it wasn't a knife that he stabbed. They keep saying that. That's what a jury messed up, I mean his uh body messed up. It wasn't a knife. Another thing is it was like one of them tripod things. I think it's it's good, it's bad, it's bad because I think oh boy, he really should have got out the way. And you know, if you can't fight, you should have got up too. That's he messed himself. It's like it's two things. Now you gotta go to jail and fight for real. So that's where it's messed up. We, you know, so you really, it's really it's it's lopsided because as a as a person, you know, you trying to we learn to protect us and we just gonna fight regardless. So that's why it's kind of hard for old school to see, wait, stop, you're gonna go, you're gonna have to go to jail and fight for real. Maybe he didn't know he was gonna kill him, but like I he should have just moved around, you know what I mean? But it's not worth it. But they they got the wrong lawyer, they ain't got the wrong lawyer to my my friend, you know what I see. They didn't eject nothing in no reason, no form or fashion. They just let them do what they do.

SPEAKER_01 4:10

From the start, he was cooked. Why in the hell did they move it to Collin County for one? And for two, all right, jury. Oh, but I was I was corrected, I was put in my place because I keep saying all right jury. Let me take that back. It wasn't an all-white jury. I was told the be real about it. It was three Asians, one Middle East person and one person of color, white. So I gotta say, three Asians was on there, and one person from the middle.

SPEAKER_00 4:53

No one of African American descent.

SPEAKER_02 4:57

That's uh no that's all we need to know.

SPEAKER_01 5:00

That's all we need to know. Clean cut. If I gotta, but I had to be with the specifics because some of y'all want to act funny about it out here saying that I'm not giving out information. That doesn't matter. The people didn't look like okay, baby. One of them may have looked like us, but they didn't say what that person said, he wasn't black, or she wasn't black. But you know who I blame? The parents. Why the hell would they agree to listen to any fool who would say, Y'all gonna be all right? Go ahead and go with this jury. Why you're supposed to go with a jury of your peers? Yeah, all of these people don't seem like they of your peers. You mean to tell me in Collin County, you couldn't find at least four or five blacks. Now they said the black people that they did find, they had to uh uh dispute dispute them and kick them out because now I know our people are not that freaking stupid to where they're gonna put this on the comments. You know, I've been to jury duty before. And you know, on the back they have different questions they asked you, you know, about hey, do you have a problem with this? Do you have a problem with race? Do you have a problem with color? Do you have a problem with religion? All this and that. I was told by one of the emailers, some of our stupid Bama blacks put on there that I have a problem sending a black person to jail or to prison for the rest of their life. Even if you did or didn't, why would you put that on there?

SPEAKER_00 6:41

Right, yeah. Regardless, Carmilla was defeated before he even stepped into the courtroom. Let's just be real, clean, cut, and dry. And it's it's unfortunate, it's a sensitive topic, a situation, sensitive situation, but in the end, two lives were lost.

SPEAKER_03 6:57

Right, exactly.

SPEAKER_00 6:58

You know, the whole situation is unfortunate. Your emotions will come to you every time. We don't know the logistics of the exact story because we were not there, but in that moment he paid it. And I'm hated for that baby, and I'm hated because then I'm honest or against him. He pulled me quicker than anybody I have ever seen in my life for any crime. The white jury, all of this is suspicious. He is set up for failure. He will not that baby will not survive in there. And they said that a minute calf is over the the prison that he is in.

SPEAKER_02 7:41

I heard that's not his one of his cousins or something. I heard that too. Another thing is you know, I don't I don't blame him. I blame I blame us as black people, you know, because we get money and we think they accept us and they don't. We're not one of them. And once we get in our head, we get our money and we start coming together and get our own community, like the agents, everybody. That's when we win. We got too many million as black people, we don't have enough communities our own. You know what I mean? Yeah, we gotta go. Why are we going out there? Why are you out there? Uh he out there and south like yeah, they we get a little money, they make make us let it pay us money to get play football or whatever, let us get along, but they we're not one of them. We only cool because we playing sports, but they're not accept it. And we in our head think in our mind that they accept it, they don't accept us. They they're envy everybody, yeah. They need everybody, every white man need a black friend, and every black man need a white friend, you know. But you know, it's a big I'm not saying they all bad, but a lot of times they don't accept us like we accept we not racist because we don't care. We long as we get our money and have our own stuff, we're not really racist. You know, I heard dudes like me. I don't I don't have nothing to give them. You don't like me, I don't like you. It's who don't like me, but I I do understand that they could be racist sometimes.

SPEAKER_01 9:01

And all you gotta do for the long story short, and for everybody that's young, that's listening to what we're saying, leave people alone. Is that don't put your hands on nobody, you know. And I hate to say it, but this is real. Austin Metcalf would still be alive today if he hadn't went and charge that boy up. Right. Long story short. You know, and the boy lost his life to you. Me and you, like I said, we we grew up in the in the funk where either you gotta get down with it or you gonna get whipped. So either you're gonna fight on site, or you know, hey, it's gonna come to it. So you sometimes you ain't got no choice but to fight. Yeah, that boy. But what conversation do you have with the youth? But that's what I'm saying. That's what I'm finna get to. Sometimes you get put in situations where you ain't got no choice, you know, but to go in it, but to fight. But back then we lived to see another day. Some of the people we grew up with ain't even here today, you know, because of that. But then what makes it so bad, this boy felt that he was threatened, his life was threatened. But yet, others, and this is where all of the races is coming into place. You got other people who've done the same thing what he done. Yeah, he took a life, but he felt he had to. He probably didn't intend to do it, but it happened. You know, he may have been trying to stick him in the gut or something, I don't know. But somehow he hit his hit his heart. He probably didn't say, I'm gonna go kill somebody today. That's why I had this knife or whatever uh piece you said it was, Texas. I'm sure that boy did not go to school that morning and uh damn track me saying he's gonna kill somebody. You can't convince me of that. So it wasn't premeditated.

SPEAKER_00 10:50

Like I said, he's a suburban kid. He went to school, he he didn't grow up in a violent environment, so you cannot even place it. The only it the only problem he has is that he is black. That is it. So they've already labeled him, but they didn't even look at his background where he comes from. They just saw a black, an African-American kid and said, Let's hang him.

SPEAKER_01 11:15

What I want to know is where is this testimony coming from? They said it was some black students that testified against him that said that he was the one that was provoking. Where are these kids at? But they also why they didn't put in um and all of the paperwork that was presented before the jury, all the problems that the Metcalf kids was having. They said them guys are bullies and they've been bullying everybody at that school. Plus, they had a situation with the cheerleaders uh disrespecting them, and the cheerleaders was upset, and uh one of them called him a bitch, and other things that said, Hey, well I'll throw hands on women too, if it comes down to it. You know, I don't know a whole bunch about that, but I've seen that on social media where people have been bringing that up. I mean, like I said, I ain't taking either side. Wrong is wrong, right is right. He would have still been alive today if he had put his hands to himself, not even approaching. He ain't got no business approaching him, he wants security.

SPEAKER_02 12:14

Right. Let the coach take it. They both lost their life, they both lost their life in fear regardless on current because he'll never be the same anyway. You hear me? He wants survivors, he knows.

SPEAKER_01 12:28

I feel bad for him for the for the parents, you know, and the and the brother. I mean, I'm not just you know one-sided on it, because when you never you lose somebody, it's gonna it hurts, right? You know, but then like I said, on Carmelo's side, both sides is hurt, you know. I can feel both sides, you know. If you lose a family member, that's gonna hurt. You're gonna say stuff, you know, and it's gonna throw you off, especially with outside people coming in, making comments. I saw today a brother peeing on the dude's grade. I don't know if that was social media. I mean, I mean not social media, it was probably AI or some kind of bullshit like that. I hope it was, I hope it wasn't real. But I can just imagine being in that father's place and then and I'm looking on Twitter, I look on Facebook, whatever, and see somebody doing that to my son. I'm like, now that would that would piss me off too. You know, but yeah, we gotta stop turning this thing into a black and white thing. You know, even though within the lot the eyes of the judicial system, they're the ones turning it into it. We ain't doing it. They're turning this into a black and white thing. But we got to stop doing tit for tat, you know. It's both hurting on both sides, you know. This little dude finna go to the penitentiary in Texas. No, it it's already, he's already doomed. He was already doing, he didn't even get a fair trial. The attorneys, the team that he had, the legal team, they suck. They didn't uh present a good case. Who all did they bring up all the as the defenders? And where is this damn tape, this video, uh, some kind of uh um footage that everybody's talking about? The tape shows this, it shows them in the tent, it shows this and that. How come we not seeing that? Okay, the case is over with. Show us now. You know, let us get a good view of what happened, you know, because I want to know what these jurors was thinking, you know, because it like I said, it does appear to be just one-sided on that. It's all one-sided, terrible, you know, and then they wonder why we act like we act when it comes to this stuff. And I'm like, well, it's not fair. It's not look at all the killers. How can you kill a black guy? And I don't know. This is I'm going back to the Cyrus thing in uh Carolinas. The store owner, his son, and somebody else chased after him, shot him in the back as he was going away. He wasn't coming to the store. He was going away. As you go away, the threat is gone. Somebody running away from you. There's no longer a threat. But he shoots him in the back. Case 185.

SPEAKER_00 15:21

Just like if the roles were reversed, Metcalf would not have been charged, it would not have gone this for it. It would have simply been self-defense, and that would be that would be it.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Yeah, that's true. That's true. You know, I I hate it had to be like that, but you know, hopefully and prayerfully, you know, things can work out. This dude would go ahead and get his acquittal or you know, get retried or something. But um, some more people need to look into this, you know. He's he's gonna have to definitely appeal this, you know. And I'm tired of some of these fake people jumping in it, acting like they're trying to help him or willing to help him, but just want to be on TV and I guess want to get some of the funds of the money. But probably some of that money's already blown through by now.

SPEAKER_00 16:09

Apparently, they apparently it was locked up, they could not even touch the GoFundMe for a while. But luckily, his family family have their own money. His father's will off, from what I heard.

SPEAKER_02 16:24

His father had to take off work though. But I yeah, I think he lost a lot of money. They had to move from over there, yeah. They had to move from over that way area as well.

SPEAKER_01 16:34

Yeah, I mean, I I don't want to wish the man is on either family because both of them hurting, and both of them will never be the same, you know. Regardless of what happened to the outcome, they ain't gonna never be the same. You can't recover from this, and once you're gone, you're gone. So like I said, people can call me what they want to call me. The man lost his son, so he's gonna be mad. Yes, he's gonna be mad. I mean, uh, anytime you lose a family member and is in a situation like that. Anyway, anything's gonna happen, you know. Yeah, you're a dad, you a dad, you know. Pooh, you a mama, you know. So y'all got, I mean, I'm not saying, you know, that it was he was right, he was wrong. I'm just saying, y'all, need just leave all this hatred and disrespect alone.

SPEAKER_02 17:22

You know, when I saw Don't put no hands on nobody, no nobody put no hands on you.

SPEAKER_01 17:27

Yeah, but when I saw old boy peeing on this man's grave. Who grave? Um the one that died. They had some food one of social media is showing him uh peeing on his grave and got his name played and everything. I like so I don't know if it's real or not, but it's it's it shows that in one of the social media, uh there's I don't even want to say which social media that it was. If y'all find it up there, it's it's totally disrespectful, you know. And uh not all blacks. Oh, even the commentary is disrespectful, you know, and and they doing the same with taking it too far. So it it ain't just us being that way. Them folks is is they doing the same thing too. I seen somebody had uh Carmelo dressed up, you know, getting ready to go into the penitentiary, you know, with a brow on or something like that. So if they're being ignorant on both sides, you know, and I'm like, man, these are these are children at the end of the day, right? At the end of the day, these are keys, you know. So man, let's just we we gotta squash all this because it's just gonna get worse. It's gonna, and it's already turned into a race war, which it is, but we didn't charge it, we didn't cause this, you know. We just doing what we gotta do. You know, all we want is justice. We wanted justice from the time we got here. You know, this is it's like we're going back in the 60s again. You know what I'm saying? This is 2026, we should be past this, you know, by now. You know, but it's still people who want to keep it going, who don't want to let things go, you know, leave black people alone.

SPEAKER_03 19:04

Right.

SPEAKER_01 19:04

And same for the blacks that's threatening Asians, just threatening whites. Just leave people alone. Yeah, just leave people alone. That's all you gotta do. Don't start none, won't be none. You know, yeah, yeah. We don't have that much time left, so we're gonna go ahead and get to this. Uh, some of the emails that some of the uh subscribers have been asking about. The first one I got, and this just trips me out. Uh my boy uh Big L is saying, Hey, Th, I need some help, man. Me and my wife have been married for less than a year. She has a 10-year-old son by another guy. The dad is still in the picture. Now, the problem is this little 10-year-old boy is a manipulator. He doesn't listen to me, he don't respect me. And at the beginning, everything was cool. I didn't have any problem with him until after the marriage, and he moved in with us. Remind you, is his house, him and his mama moved into. Now, the mama is a nurse, so she works evening shift 12 hours, 6 to 6. He worked day shift. The little boy was going to school, but now it's summertime, so he's out of school. While they was going, while school was still in, this little boy wasn't taking care of his business, like he's his mama would tell him, Hey, when I get home, I want you to have your homework done, clean your room, you know, do the dishes, do, you know, whatever little tasks that he had to do, whatever. And sometimes the boy would do it, sometimes he wouldn't. Times when he didn't do it, the mama would call him or blow him up on his phone or text, whatever the next day, why you didn't tell so-and-so to do his homework. He didn't even finish his homework. His room is dirty. I told you to tell him to clean his room to do this, this, and that. So he's like, wait, I tell him to do it, but he don't do it. Excuse me. He ain't listening to me, you know. So, and I've told you, hey, we need to sit down and get him straight. When I do tell him something, hey, you need to do this, you need to do that. First thing he gets is, I do it later. I'm doing it. You're not my daddy, you know. And I'm like, hey, I ain't got time for that. You know, I don't have time for that. That's why I told you, you know, and even his daddy tried to call and charge me up. He don't want me touching his son. I'm like, fine. I'm not trying to discipline your son as far as physically wise, but if he in my house, if I tell him to do something, he needs to do it. As long as it's nothing out of the ordinary, I won't tell him to do something that I wouldn't tell my nephews to do. You know?

SPEAKER_03 21:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:00

So y'all what can y'all tell this man? Because I got a lot I can tell.

SPEAKER_02 22:07

I'll tell you.

SPEAKER_00 22:11

Okay, real quick. As a single mind myself, um, it is important to instill in your kids respect. Number one, I don't care who it is. Any adult, any adult deserves respect. Nowadays, these kids lack that, even in the classroom. So I even in the home, it should be boundary set, number one. Outside of the home, it should be the same boundary. So that behavior is learned. And she her as the mom, she needs to step up. She needs to step up and let her kid know hey, I don't care who it is, any adult, you need to respect them. If an adult tells you to do something, you do it automatically. No talking back, no lip, like you don't have a say. Now, if somebody's doing something or telling you to do something that you're uncomfortable with, then that's when you call me, another adult to address the situation. Like kids have too much right and too much safe nowadays. It's not, it's not, it shouldn't be like that.

SPEAKER_02 23:12

Yep. Right. Because yeah, all the kids won't have a feelings, and then they then so the feelings become they control the adults, and the adults gotta learn. We gotta be adults, and the kids cannot mean they put I had that problem with my kids, like my daughter, 12-year-old mama called me. How y'all gonna let a 12-year-old manipulate me? I'm not gonna do that. Y'all gotta, I'm not so y'all, the the parents they gotta learn to come together and do mad at other old boy because he having been intimate with his ex-girl. Man, that ain't about that. If that kid in the house, he is daddy right at that time. It's like when I get kids, when I used to keep kids on the weekend and for like football and stuff, and I tell I'm their daddy on the weekend, because if anything happened and my son come back, y'all gonna be mad at me. So if anything happened to the son, so I always I always say, hey man, when the kids with me, I'm their daddy, and that's because if my son comes back home and your son don't come back home, you're gonna be mad and wanna shoot me. You ain't let your son do it. So, like if kids get disrespectful, I man, you better get up out. I'm gonna shack their butt up. No, we ain't gonna do that. Nephews and anything. I'm gonna pick, hey, but they they don't like me, but they respect me. You don't have to don't nobody have to like me, but respect is well needed in my life. I don't give a damn who he is. So the thing is, oh boy, he got to put oh the boy that has they got to go if they can't get their stuff together. Say, man, because it's no disrespect by any means necessary, and you ain't gotta do no fight. My piece is everything. If your energy off and you coming up with a bad attitude, no. Hey, stop stop buying clothes and shoes and mad and uh PlayStation and stuff if he don't do it. Put that stuff up. I take my son's stuff, man. If you can't do it, I'm taking it. You still get it right there. Yeah, take this stuff. I ain't giving I ain't feeding, I don't feed nothing. If a dog bite me, you gonna feed him. Hell no. I don't I don't feed nothing to disrespect me. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_01 25:13

That's I don't reward better behavior either. Yeah, you bad, you won't want to listen. I'm not finna go do nothing for you, and you bad you only listen to me if I tell you less gentle parents in.

SPEAKER_02 25:27

Yeah, that's like a woman cheating on you. You're gonna buy a purse for cheating on you. I'm not gonna celebrate you for cheating on me. I'm not gonna celebrate you for fighting on me. I'm not gonna celebrate you for not cooking for me. You do for me, I do for you. That's my life. Anybody, friends, family. Let's look out for each other. It just stop stop being savage by any means here. Let's look out for each other. If I buy you a burger Monday, and you got pride to buy me a burger, that's it. Give and take, give and take.

SPEAKER_01 25:57

Scratch each other back. Yeah, mutual respect, what it boiled down to. Yeah, we got we got two more left, and then we're finna be out of time, out of uh time, you know. But um, that's that's basically it. It's basically it, mutual respect, you know. And uh, we can go a long way or we can go short way, but we can't do both. It's gotta be one or the other, you know. How can you be in this man's house and y'all haven't had that talk yet? Y'all should have had that talk before the I do's before you got married. Hey, look, my son's gonna be staying with us, you know. Hey, but this is I don't, you know, it's okay, you know, for you to tell him different things, whatever, blah, blah, blah. I'm gonna back you as long as you're right. But I don't want you mistreating my child either. You know, most eventually, you know, he got love for you, he let you move in. But I'm gonna tell you what she said that really ticked him off. He this fool wants to have a baby with her. So she's like, Well, how you want to have a baby by me? And you can't even control the one child that we have in the house. I said, big ass.

SPEAKER_02 27:04

Say I'm gonna tell you the thing about it. Real single, if you ain't been a real single mom, being a single mom in this day and age is hard because the hardest job being a parent, being a parent anyway, because we try to make it well where we got our butts whooped and stuff is hard, but I'm glad my mama keep my butt because I made me a better man. But we just letting these kids walk. Oh, go on to time now. Now we raise it like them them.

SPEAKER_01 27:32

Yeah.