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Telecaster is the greatest electric
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first a little bit about why I kind of
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became a telly guy then you can see that
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you know a lot of people become
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Telecaster guys and it's you know it's
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for a good reason
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so it's turn it out a strata because of
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Eric Clapton Jimmy Vaughan Stevie Ray
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Vaughan you know growing up in South
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Texas I think I think the strat is in
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some ways kind of the national guitar of
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Texas notice I said national because
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Texas used to be a country seat Intel
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already were going down that horrible
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road you know because Texans are the
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most arrogant people in the world I know
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because I am one and I'm painting myself
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into a corner today so it was a Clapton
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record called just one night I was a
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live record done in Japan and he had a
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different band than what he'd had before
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before he had George Terry playing
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second guitar and George played very
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much and Clapton style played a strat
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sounded like you know Eric so but then
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he had this other player that didn't say
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anything liking me I mean someone had a
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similar tone but it was Albert Lee and
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so they're both using musicman amps with
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JBL speakers and he's an old Fender
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guitars you know Eric's playing Blackie
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Albert's playing I think he had a 58
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strat and he had a tele you know a
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couple different vintage tallies and I
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think he was using a three pickup Les
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Paul Custom that Eric had given him that
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Eric had used with Delaney and Bonnie
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and cream and stuff like that
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anyway hearing him on the Mark Knopfler
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tune setting me up or just the way he
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played on cocaine or further on up the
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road all those tunes I mean just killer
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playing so of course you know
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pre-internet you know found some old
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guitar player magazines and found out
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about Albert Lee the article had you
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know a lot about his influences and also
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listings of recordings that he had
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played on so all these names didn't mean
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anything to me a lot Don rich and
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Clarence white was like I know who these
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people are and at that point you know
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I'd only heard Albert on on a Clapton
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record so I went and bought one of the
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records that he was listed as playing on
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which was this by this lady named
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Emmylou Harris and the album's called
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luxury liner
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well that album just you know it floored
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me I loved it and that kind of became my
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conversion both to the Telecaster and to
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country music specifically that kind of
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California country music that I think
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kind of goes with Merle Haggard Buck
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Owens and even later on Gram Parsons and
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Emmylou and Rodney Crowell and even into
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like Ricky Skaggs and stuff like that so
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anyway picked up that album on the inner
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sleeve it had Albert Lee with a 53
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blackguard telly and I loved that album
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so then of course I went back to the
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guitar player article and started
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finding out more about the guys that
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influenced him so from there I listened
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to Roy Buchanan from there you know I
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got Jimmy Bryant from there I listened
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to James Burton now I had heard James
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before mainly
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this stuff like a loja from Hawaii and
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things like that but you know hearing
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him play on the Merle stuff like when
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he's doing that kind of you know the
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chicken pickin thing and you know that
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stuff floored me and you know even like
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the the Roy Buchanan stuff like hearing
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that that first album Roy began its
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first album which had I'm a lonesome
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fugitive which of course I loved the the
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James Burton Merle Haggard original but
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here in Roy kind of take it to a whole
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other place and you know was was really
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really neat that was kind of more in the
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vein of Roy because Roy Wood would put a
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lot more you know put a lot more English
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on it as the pool players say so anyway
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Clarence white Don rich you know that
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that article you know kind of you know
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pushed me over into all those players
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and of course most of them were playing
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Telecasters so I decided I had to have a
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Tele well I was gigging by this point
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it's probably you know late high school
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early college and I saved up my gig
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money which I was really proud of the
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fact that it wasn't like from not there
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was anything wrong with buying a guitar
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from your yardwork money or anything
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like that but I was proud of the fact
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that I was able to save up fifteen
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hundred bucks so I could order a James
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Burton signature model Telecaster from
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Claussen's music and Corpus Christi
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Texas and I got that guitar and then I
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had Joe Glaser put a B bender on it and
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then
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had EMG pickups put in it and yeah it
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was basically a non tremolo strat but
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with a Telecaster kind of body so fast
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forward a little bit and then I get to
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Belmont University and one of my
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classmates is this guy named Brad
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Paisley at this point he's nobody nobody
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knows who he is I guess in some ways he
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was a little bit of a local celebrity up
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in West Virginia
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had a bit of a following but no one
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certainly no one knew who was in
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Nashville and so we became friends and
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he said one day let's let's get our rigs
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and set him up over our house and jam so
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I took my James Burton tele with the MGS
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and I had a PV stereo chorus 212 amp and
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I had a boss pedal board when those BCB
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six plastic boards full of boss pedals
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and we played and you know Brad was
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always a great player devastatingly good
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and killer tone I mean he had it like an
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American standard type telly with a real
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Jimi you know early 60s actually mid 60s
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J my top boost ac30 with silver on the
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elico speakers in it so from that I
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really got you know it was funny Brad
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said you need to get a real telly I said
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what are you talking about I said says
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Fender says Telecasters got James
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Burton's you know signature on it
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it's a telling he said well it's a cool
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guitar he said but it doesn't have the
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right bridge on it it doesn't have the
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right pick up on it and stuff it's kind
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of a strand so he started educating me
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and again he was along 21 22 years old
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but he was already very savvy with such
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things and so I had I he got me to get a
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music man amp which I started playing
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through that and I had a blackface twin
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with a 15 in it that he helped me get
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and so then I was able to get rid of the
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PV amp by trading it in
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get a real telly and my first real telly
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was a toque hi breezy sound so near
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Belmont University when we were going to
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school there was a place we used to hang
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out called a pancake pantry and if
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you've been to Nashville you're kind of
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aware of it and we used to skip class
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and go to the pancake pantry at times
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and you know we'd get into our low-level
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trouble that way and then we right
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across the street from the pancake
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pantry was this music store called
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cotton music old man cotton ran it and
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he was a serious jazzer and he'd sit
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behind the cash register you know
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playing standards and just you know he
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was a serious player so we we went in
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there you know two snot-nosed kids and
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Brad looks up in the wall and he saw
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like seven or eight Tokai breezy sounds
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up on the wall he said that's what you
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need to get so we played every one of
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them picked out the best one I got it
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and it was great guitar and I wish I
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still had it a friend has it so but what
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I learned about that was the importance
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of this bridge and this bridge is a big
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part of the Telecaster sound now that
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James Burton tell he had a fancy non
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tremolo bridge with six saddles and they
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were gold-plated everything but this is
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a big part of the Telecaster sound you
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know here you have a combination bridge
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tail piece and also you know pickup
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mount and so it's all in one and what a
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simple elegant design I mean it's
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ridiculous you know you have bent steel
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you have three saddles and then the
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pickup mounts to it now I want you to
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look at other guitars and most other
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solid-body electric guitars the pickup
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ends up being mounted to plastic half
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the time so a strat the pickup is
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mounted to plastic it's mounted to the
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pick guard even on a Les Paul like a tar
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nine that I have back there it's like
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they're mounted to
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you know these plastic rings on they're
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not there's anything like horribly wrong
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with it but being mounted to the bridge
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itself is an enhancement
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another thing that's huge is you know is
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this bottom plate you know I don't know
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exactly what it does but I've had
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Telly's that didn't have a bottom plate
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on the pickup like I had an American
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Standard telly for a little while and it
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didn't have a bottom plate on it well I
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put another pickup that did and of
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course it's hard to quantify what was
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doing what but you know this this plate
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seems to kind of focus the sound in some
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way and also it adds a bit of shielding
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that's another great thing about the
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telly is that you know even with single
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coil pickups of all the single coil
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pickup guitar that I've ever owned
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Telly's always tend to be the quietest
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you know when you put on the back and I
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think it has to do with that plate and
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the fact that it's mounted in this
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bridge and it just it makes for a
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quieter and easier to deal with sound
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another real you know well the pickup
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itself of course is horribly important
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and and I think when you stick to a kind
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of what I would call a normal output
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vintage style pickup meaning somewhere
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in the mid six is to the I don't know
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maybe nine K at the most you know you
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you know there's some really great
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sounds in there and I think the ones
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that sound better more in the 7k range
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but anyway it's you know it just it has
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the right amount of content it's like so
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many pickups have too much information
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it's like on a humbucker I always feel
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like you're always trying to tame stuff
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and pull stuff out so that it'll cut
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through because there's just too it's
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too fat and it's like it works great by
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itself or when you're in a power trio
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but when you're in a big band it just
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it's just too much I've been to
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rehearsals and took a Les Paul and the
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bandleader said um yeah for the gig
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please bring you tele and don't don't
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bring that guitar back I was like in one
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way that was a little shocking but I
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mean he was being really blunt and that
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he'd already we'd already played
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together and he knew that the tele
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worked for the sound and he heard that
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guitar and heard how much more you know
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kind of low-end and kind of low mids
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that it had and how much kind of what
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leo fender called fluff to it that it
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wasn't gonna work as well okay let's
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keep on with the bridge these saddles
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are really important and having a three
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saddle bridge is a big part of the sound
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the fact that you have two strings
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covering each saddle it gets more
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downward pressure and you know more
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transference of vibrations to the saddle
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and to the body and just a big part of
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the sound these these saddles these are
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compensated ones they're not the
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originals I still have the originals to
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this 67 tele but yeah that's the one you
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know I do two mods two took guitars and
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this is one of them this I put
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compensated saddles I be careful when
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you're putting new saddles on a guitar a
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lot of guys will put these really heavy
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fancy saddles that are heavily
15:12
chrome-plated and weigh a ton and that
15:16
is not the old sound these old saddles
15:18
weigh next to nothing you know and when
15:21
you put heavy saddles on there it
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changes the sound and for me not to the
15:24
better not for the better
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so yeah so these are small C&J tooling
15:29
which unfortunately no longer made he
15:33
actually was the father of Jeff sin and
15:35
so many Dino casters and Jeff's in
15:37
guitars made in the last decade had
15:39
those on there they're not available
15:40
anymore but I like to all parts one and
15:43
that's what's on my Daniel Castro
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blackguard that's in the back there yeah
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then a lot of guys will go crazy on
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these bridges and to me you know the
15:55
vintage ones are thin bent steel and so
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many new bridge makers they tout hey you
16:02
know we use you know thicker steel and
16:06
blah blah blah and all it does is take
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away the sound it makes it not sound
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like an old guitar the best any new
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bridge out there is the $30.00 Fender
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bridge their vintage style bridge you
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get one of those and then you get a set
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of all parts confidence
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Saddles either the brass of the steel
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and you're there and then just get you a
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good bridge pickup alright so there's
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that some people complain about the
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bridge pickup being too bright and I
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mean I have had bad bridge pickups
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before but I mean if you have a good
16:41
bridge pickup and if you use your tone
16:43
control I mean that's the biggest thing
16:45
is you need to roll some treble off and
16:47
if you just insist on having the tone on
16:50
10 on a tele on the back pickup I guess
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you're just going to be disappointed but
16:54
you know if you just roll the tongue
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back a little bit it really softens it
16:59
and gives it a great sound that still
17:01
cuts besides using compensated saddles
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the other mod that I do to all my
17:06
guitars is I wire the tone control only
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to the bridge pickup and that way it
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opens up the sound by removing the tone
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control it brightens this pickup more
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and also it it just gives it it gives it
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more cut so so it just gives it and what
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you can do is when you wire it that way
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you can set the amp while you're on the
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neck pickup and then you go to the back
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pickup and usually darken it as much as
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you need to and you know I found that I
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can save you know even muddy sounding
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Telecaster neck pickups by wiring the
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guitar up that way because then I can
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you know wire you know I can set the
18:19
sound you know fairly bright and be in
18:22
good shape the body on the tele
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is elegant it's perfect all that
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contouring and and tummy cut and stuff
18:32
like that I think is not needed
18:36
you know of course in all the fender
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books it talks about Bill Carson who was
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an early Fender employee and kind of
18:42
test pilot and for like the strat and
18:43
stuff he complained about the Telecaster
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and that it was cutting into his ribs
18:48
and of course looking at pictures that
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looks like he had his guitar hiked up
18:51
pretty high you know not as high as Roy
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Buchanan but pretty high like a bib and
18:57
man I wish he would just would loosen
18:59
the strap a little bit or something but
19:01
you know I don't have any problem with
19:03
the lack of contouring and acoustic
19:06
guitars don't have contours most guitars
19:09
don't so anywho I think you know in the
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the control plate on a telly and the
19:17
fact that you have two screws there you
19:19
remove those and then you can rewire the
19:20
guitar or do anything you need to I
19:22
think that's brilliant you know I I
19:24
don't like on that the strat obviously
19:26
it made it easier for 
19:29
manufacturing to put everything on a
19:31
plate but as far as you know on the gig
19:35
or traveling and trying to you know fix
19:37
something it is so nice that you just
19:40
remove two screws and you can get to the
19:42
wire and I mean that's far superior than
19:45
most other guitars the neck is just
19:51
simple elegant design I think the you
19:54
know the lack of a bulbous you know
19:57
other stuff on here you know as an
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advantage and also the lack of neck to
20:06
body angle and the lack of headstock
20:09
angle it just makes it to where it has
20:13
more structural integrity because you
20:18
know how many times have you seen a
20:20
telly with the you know broken headstock
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how many times have you seen a broken
20:24
head stock on a Gibson I've seen a ton
20:27
of them
20:27
you know there's repair shops here in
20:29
Nashville that are completely set up
20:31
with jigs and and all sorts of things to
20:35
fix
20:35
you know headstock breaks because it's
20:37
so common because here you have this
20:40
fragile you know headstock angle and
20:42
body you know angle which I'll give it
20:45
to Gibson that's part of the sound and
20:47
if you took those things away
20:49
wouldn't sound the same and so yes it's
20:51
part of the sound and I have no beef
20:53
with with Gibson or anything this is
20:55
just a fact that the Telecaster is
20:58
stronger you can say you like a Les Paul
21:00
better or whatever but but this is so
21:03
much more you know has so much more
21:05
structural integrity I will say I have
21:08
to tell this one little side story about
21:10
going went to Japan years ago and
21:14
there's the only time I saw a Telecaster
21:17
break and we were playing in a club and
21:23
it was kind of a jam session and the
21:28
biggest takeaway from this besides the
21:29
horrible incident was there was a young
21:33
guy named Chris Scruggs who's the the
21:35
grandson of Earl Scruggs
21:37
and he now plays with Marty Stewart and
21:39
he's an amazing bass player guitar
21:42
player pedal you know steel player plays
21:45
almost everything he's a mazing musician
21:47
I've never heard of him before
21:49
and again this was almost 20 years ago
21:51
and he was playing with BR 549 and he
21:57
got up and was jamming playing on
21:59
someone's pedal steel but not using the
22:01
pedals at all and he was doing all those
22:02
slant bar techniques and he was
22:04
ridiculously good so someone else that
22:07
got up not Chris picked up a telly and
22:11
we were in it was a little Club and the
22:14
ceiling was low and there was a ceiling
22:16
fan well he played a song and then after
22:19
the song was over he took the guitar off
22:22
like this and one of the worst sounds
22:24
I've ever heard in my life
22:26
was the sound of a ceiling fan hitting
22:29
the headstock and breaking it off
22:31
cleanly right here at the nut I was
22:33
actually kind of interesting but yeah
22:36
you don't don't hear that very often but
22:39
the tele is such you know a versatile
22:41
guitar think about Ted green and yes he
22:47
had some modified Telly's with
22:49
humbuckers and things like that but he
22:50
played a lot of just stock Telly's think
22:52
about one of the modern masters of the
22:54
guitar Julian Lodge I mean what a
22:57
monster you know he is
22:59
and he plays a a Telecaster ally plays a
23:02
nacho guitar made by my friend
23:05
nacho out in Valencia Spain think about
23:09
you know edy bickered who did put a
23:11
humbucker in his you know Mike Stern and
23:16
all these guys used tell he's you know
23:18
for playing jazz or Cali think about
23:22
Bill Frisell I mean Bill Frisell has
23:26
influenced so many players why do you
23:28
think everyone everyone that's gone in
23:30
New York and or seen him play you know
23:32
that everyone started shaking the neck
23:34
on the guitar while they played some
23:35
cool chord you know all of a sudden it
23:37
became room no I'm not even doing it
23:44
that great but all of a sudden it was
23:45
like everyone started doing it after
23:46
they saw bill play listen to the record
23:50
and then you'd see him I mean oh he's
23:51
just he's shaking the neck on the guitar
23:53
no but anywho and then he got Roy
23:58
Buchanan you got all those great guys
23:59
you got you know you've got the
24:00
stereotypical stuff like Jimmy Page
24:02
using one on stairway to heaven and on
24:05
and on and on you know but you know the
24:09
tele is the is the guitar you know
24:11
there's other ones out there that are
24:13
great but but the tele really you know
24:16
it was the first real serious you know
24:18
solid body guitar that was released and
24:20
it was all about simplicity in you know
24:25
and functionality and I think that pure
24:28
design I think has really served it well
24:31
you know when the Les Paul was
24:33
introduced to compete with this you know
24:37
Gibson said well we're gonna do an arch
24:39
top to the body because you know fender
24:42
can't do that and there were elements of
24:45
that you know guitar that we're all
24:47
about showing how fancy they were well
24:49
this guitar is not about fancy at all
24:51
this guitar is a hundred percent about
24:53
functionality and that's what makes it
24:56
the best electric guitar design ever and
25:00
why I love them alright well I hope you
25:04
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