welcome back to the XTS custom shop here

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in Nashville Tennessee say hi Eric hi

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Eric and say hi Zach hi Zach special

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guest Zack child's uh in the house and

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we've got where we once had one board

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yes there is now two yes and what was

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kind of the secondary project Lil John

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there yes uh W to sort of influencing

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cuz you had a different plan for the big

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one I did have a different plan for the

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big one but I I've used these pedals for

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so long and I was going to use some

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different pedals that I hadn't really

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used a whole lot and so as I thought

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about it I thought that's a bad

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idea why why would why do you say that

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new pedals are exciting and all those

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things they are exciting but the you

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know the right after uh on the 26th of

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December the day after Christmas I'm

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flying to Vegas to go play six nights

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with this new board and I just thought

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that's a dumb move to have a bunch of

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stuff that you don't know well and to be

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using like I mean we're talking about

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using a different a different overdrive

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a different uh you know different delay

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different compressor I mean it was like

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it was completely different and and so I

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just realized it's like this is not a

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good idea I love these pedals I actually

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had duplicates of pretty much all of

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them except for maybe the dm3 and so you

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know I had to buy one of these but the

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rest of them I already had because I'm

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one of those morons that you know when

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you find something that you really like

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you feel like you have to have a backup

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I know it's a sickness do you think that

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that comes from like a tech background

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it does it comes from that it comes from

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having that amount of of pressure on you

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and uh and feeling like you know you

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kind of rely on certain things and uh

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you just don't want to get caught with

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your pants down sure so so yeah I I

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think I think you hit the nail on the

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head that that having backups or

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everything because it was yeah that was

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the whole thing about being a guitar

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tech was that you had to have you know

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backups and backup plans and you had to

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be because there's so much pressure on

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the artist to you know put on a show and

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then you've got to keep them going sure

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yeah now both of you guys have

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considerable Tech backgrounds do you

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have any horror stories for new stuff

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bring being brought out day

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of and uh maybe not going so great it

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seemed like a good idea at the time I

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don't think I do okay I don't I I guess

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it's your guys's job to keep people from

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doing that part part of it and but I

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think there's just so much to uh I think

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when you have new stuff again I think

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I've said this before it's like you you

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have to kind of get comfortable with the

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new stuff and so many times you don't

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really have that opportunity unless

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there's rehearsals and so when you're

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just thrown into the gig you show up and

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you've got like 30 minutes to do you

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know to get a an ear mix and to kind of

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to to do a quick run through and that's

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it and then you've got to go play four

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hours and so it's like when you have all

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this stuff that you're not used to so

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it's it's more about me just it

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self-preservation sure and uh and making

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sure that I play music instead of

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fussing around with stuff for you know

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or during the whole 4 hours I mean

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wouldn't you agree I mean then then

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you're you're leaning over and you're

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like oh I don't like that that setting

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worked fine when I was running it

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through a a little mixer or and then all

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of a sudden it sounds completely

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different yeah well it definitely opens

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you up to even tiny little things just

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like the mechanics of how a pedal works

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or whatever you're like oh I didn't know

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it did that it's in some mode or right

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this didn't do what I was expecting

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which would normally be no big deal

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right but if you have between line check

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in the

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show that's that's your whole

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introduction to a device and you might

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be asking for trouble exactly so we've

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got all the same pedals with a couple

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add-ons so we I guess we won't belabor

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the the individual choices since you did

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a good job of explaining those in that

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other video yes there there'll be a

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little uh you know link here that if you

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want to go over and watch the video

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where we talk through all the pedals but

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basically yeah we've got the Mirage

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compressor we've got an analog man

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modified tremolo and this one is too

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even though it doesn't have the sticker

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on the front it's got the stamp on the

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side this mostortion was rehoused by

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y'all uh because the switch went bad

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this one has not been rehoused because

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the switch still works and uh y'all left

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enough room so that if it does have to

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be rehoused it can at some point point

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but I appreciated the fact that I I said

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why don't we just rehouse this and you

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said why why do that you know if it's

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working let's not mess with it so I

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appreciate that so we're leaving that

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alone uh then we've got the good old dm3

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that's been modified to work on 9 volts

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instead of 12 this one's you know same

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thing uh again these are still really

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inexpensive you know 120 bucks or so and

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then the Echo Park for now for now until

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as Zach blows it up you know you never

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know what's going to take off and what's

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not but anyway and the Echo Park is just

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a great kind of Do-it all thing the only

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thing is like we mentioned the other

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time it's just whether you can get along

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with the tap on it uh I can it doesn't

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bother me at all I like it a lot so uh

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and it it just has a really good the

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tape and the analog sounds on it and

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everything and then so this

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rig is basically to be able to use an

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amp or to go direct or to do both at the

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same time that was the whole point of

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this and this is so I can when I'm going

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out with an amp I don't have to take two

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of them because I have a backup right

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here or if I'm going direct then I can

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also run to an amp just to have some

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stage volume like the gig I'm going to

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go play in Vegas in uh in late December

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the

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vocalist you likes to use a wedge even

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though the rest of us are on ears and

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I'm going to go direct so instead of

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having guitar come through the wedge

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what I'll do is they have some of those

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boss Katana amplifiers that are there

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and so I'll go direct for my sound but

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I'll run this amp output off to that

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boss Katana just so that I can have a

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little bit of stage volume for the

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singer so that he can hear it without

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having to have that the monitors have

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guitar in it too that'll sound like a

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band thing yeah and so it just it helps

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it uh so yeah this this was all about

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having that versatility and the backup

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so I can go play a gig and I don't have

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to bring two amplifiers with me because

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if my amp blows up well guess what we

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can just take an XLR and we can go out

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of here or if you're just going direct

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only and I love this dream 65 it's it's

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you know it's got Reverb and tremolo in

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it which is nice it's got good EQ on it

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it's got a boost um I think it's just a

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and and a lot of these things try to do

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a lot of different things well

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and this is only trying to be a deluxe

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and I think it it just does a good job

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of it so uh it uh it keeps me happy so I

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really loved the way y'all put this

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together I loved the uh the flat work uh

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what do you call this that you that you

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put on top call them lamb tops lamb tops

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it almost sounds like lamb chops that

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was the idea yeah it's it's the board

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covering That Never Ends yeah so it just

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it just looks really nice and I I love

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this uh signal flow thing right here

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this is awesome yeah I told Zach I said

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I don't mind telling you but now I'm

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going to tell 20,000 other people that

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it seems like that's for you but really

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it's for us when you call later and

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you're like what do we do on that again

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and I'm like H I don't

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remember so I guess we ought to talk

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about some of the special features here

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because I mean really the the big thing

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is of course that what's different from

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this which is just a plain you know

8:26

simple you know puddle board this has

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some other features on it so uh where

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where should we start like signal flow

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or the junction box yeah Eric why don't

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you talk us through the junction box cuz

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that'll cover kind of both the gags yeah

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well really the signal chain is the same

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as this one pretty much the uh the tuner

8:45

and compressor or SWA doesn't really

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matter though this is up here so you can

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plug in and tuner down here because who

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likes a sideways tuner nobody prefers

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it uh but sometimes you do it because

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you you got to we didn't have to here uh

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so really the only trick thing is the

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box here there's an insert point between

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the mostortion and the delay to insert a

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volume pedal or really anything yeah it

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could be anything could add another dirt

9:11

box for a gag effect you could put this

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whole other board in there and then

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would that be twice as much or half as

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much it might be I don't know if you

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divide by two that be a two * two or two

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with a little two up to the right of it

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cuz that's one of the one of the few

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things that you know you you get a lot

9:30

of you know volume petals are are really

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great for uh you know for obviously

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doing swells and stuff like that and

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there's times where you're just like I

9:39

really need a volume pedal you know for

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this and you really want it to be after

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your drives so that you still have your

9:47

level of of drive and compression and

9:49

things going on and you're just able to

9:51

you know swell it in and you're and of

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course you want to have your delays

9:54

after it so that uh you know so that

9:56

things Trail off sure but uh yeah that's

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kind of the one thing that you know

10:02

where you would you would take this and

10:04

you wish that you you know okay well

10:06

I've got to bring a volume pedal and so

10:07

then I end up running it in front of it

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which is not a bad deal but it just ends

10:11

up as you back it off of course you lose

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uh you lose drive if you have that on

10:16

for sure and so that gets us and then

10:19

what do we got going on here for to

10:21

service the amp and then there is just a

10:24

split between these two so the Echo Park

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feed two lines one can go out to an amp

10:30

and then the other can feed the uh the

10:33

amp over here yes the pretend amp the

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pretend amp which drives the canvas uh

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from

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walrus uh so that you you have XLR outs

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on this side and then the the cool thing

10:45

about the way the Eric has set this up

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if there's no volume if you don't need

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one you just pull those and that just

10:52

normals through so it can regress which

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I think is a an important feature cuz

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you never know what's going to happen

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and if anytime you have an option to

11:02

make a rig do both and I think is

11:05

probably a good thing yeah yeah it's

11:07

nice to not have to put a a cable there

11:10

to to get signal to go across there for

11:13

sure and this canvas is kind of um I was

11:16

just going to put a regular old uh jdi

11:19

radial but uh but this this canvas is is

11:23

Stereo if you need that if if they want

11:26

two sources and uh it's a it's a line

11:30

driver which means it doesn't take the

11:32

signal down and then they have to up you

11:34

know reup it back at the board it

11:36

doesn't make it mic level right so uh

11:39

you know of course that can throw people

11:41

off which it has a uh it has a DI or or

11:44

line driver you know option so you can

11:47

take it down to uh to di you know mic

11:50

level if you want oh and then a pad on

11:52

top of that I didn't notice that yeah

11:54

and then it has the ground lift on there

11:56

because when when running amp and direct

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you're probably going to have to use uh

12:04

uh the the ground lift I would think so

12:06

yeah always good to have it just in case

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so I mean that's everything on top of

12:10

the board and what are we doing for

12:12

power we're using the good old CS6 and

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this is one I've had for a while it's

12:17

got a little uh you know oh a little

12:19

Road Weare a little Road Weare and it's

12:21

got a piece of tape you over the uh over

12:24

the little dips that's actually a

12:27

non-trivial uh trick for uh those who

12:30

use these it's I've it's pretty rare in

12:34

fact I had no of no instance where one

12:37

got accidentally flipped I do know of an

12:40

in you do uh well then it saves that I

12:43

think more common somebody gets under

12:45

there and it's like something's not

12:46

working I'm going to start flicking

12:49

switches and it rarely does that make

12:51

things better no it it it doesn't and

12:54

and again yall uh you know labeled these

12:57

as always and so we had to uh because

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this has six outputs and we've got uh

13:04

seven devices that need power we had to

13:07

uh we had to split one so the compressor

13:10

yeah it looks like the compressor and

13:11

the mostortion are off the same which is

13:14

fine you don't need to have isolated

13:16

power for those cuz they're not going to

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create uh noise problems but you

13:20

absolutely have to have like the Echo

13:22

Park and the dream 65 and probably the

13:24

trim and the dm2 just to be safe since

13:27

they've got Clocky things definitely

13:29

that one definitely the tr2 you if you

13:32

share that one you will often hear

13:35

a sound and you know we don't want that

13:38

nope not unless you're after that yeah

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um but yeah not unless you want that not

13:44

unless you want that you always got to

13:45

leave that door open these days

13:48

yeah uh but yeah so this is it's another

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uh a bigger brother uh that has kind of

13:54

the same Soul as the first one but a few

13:56

more capabilities uh for when you need

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them and you can take the little one

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when you when you don't Little John Big

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John Big John there you go yeah well

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Zach thanks so much dude for letting us

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do this for you we really appreciate it

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I really appreciate I love just you know

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being able to finally have this board

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that can kind of do everything for me

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and saves me from having to run like

14:19

another amp or like these off to the

14:21

side and just being able to put this in

14:24

one case and be able to fly with it or

14:26

or go out on the road with it that's

14:28

just a a huge thing and it just yeah

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this it looks

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amazing I need to thank uh my patreon

14:38

people and uh and just you know all the

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people that that support me and uh man

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uh hope youall all have a great new year

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thanks and

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