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Quantum science applications in holistic healing with Cathleen Beerkens.
Have you ever wondered how quantum physics can revolutionize your approach to healing? In this eye-opening episode of the Healist Podcast, we are joined by Cathleen Beerkens, a holistic health and wellness coach, the visionary founder of A Wellness Revolution and the insightful author of "Your Creator Matrix." Cathleen shares her transformative journey from a conventional Western nurse to a trailblazing holistic healer. This discussion promises to inspire and guide healers on how to incorporate the principles of quantum healing and the new science into their practices, offering a holistic yet practical approach to personal well-being and healthcare.
We explore groundbreaking new paradigms in energy healing, delving into the disruptive impact of synthetic substances on our natural vibrational harmony and the evolutionary shifts in human DNA. Cathleen's profound insights highlight the necessity of personalized healthcare approaches, acknowledging our unique bio-individuality. This thought-provoking conversation encourages practitioners to stay curious and adaptable in the face of an unprecedented era of consciousness and self-healing.
Cathleen sheds light on the intricate connections between our energy fields, chakras, meridians, and overall wellness, emphasizing the need for a harmonious integration of our physical, mental, and spiritual selves. The episode culminates with an inspiring discussion on collective healing and the role of lightworkers in raising our collective frequency.
Learn More about Cathleen's new book at https://www.awellnessrevolution.com/your-creator-matrix/
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Welcome to the Healist Podcast, where we inspire and guide healers through business expansion. We give voice to incredibly abundant healers to share their stories. We dive into the quantum field to unlock the energies of conscious creation. We also develop digital tools to help you grow, which you can find on HealLesscom. I'm your host, Yuli, and I'm grateful you chose to join this space. Now let's go deep.
Speaker 2:Hello, my dear friends, another episode of the HealLess podcast. I'm super excited for this one. You know how much I love the topic about quantum and its applications for holistic healers, and this is exactly what we're going to discuss today with my incredible guest, kathleen Birkins. She is the founder of A Wellness Revolution, an institute for integrative nutrition based in Amsterdam, and author of the new book your Creator Matrix how to Use Optimal Wellness and Quantum Healing to Master your Story and Create your Reality. I just cannot wait to dive into this conversation. We chatted a little bit before and I was like I had to stop because I'm like let's save this for the podcast and just so. So good, kathleen, I'm so excited to have you here. My intention for this episode is to really bring the idea of quantum healing and quantum field, help people get comfortable with this idea, understand it better and really inspire healers to bring it into their work and get them excited about bringing this into their work, and so I couldn't imagine a better speaker to do that with. So thank you for being here.
Speaker 3:Thank you, Yuli. I'm grateful and I just have to thank you for all your work that you do. Thank you.
Speaker 2:It's a pleasure, all right. So where should we begin? And I'd like to dive right in. And I just actually finished reading the book, or parts of it, and I have to tell you I find it one of the most probably easy to read and comprehensive collection, kind of like a bird's eye view on everything that's been happening in the quantum physics, mechanics world, in the spiritual world, how this is all related to average person, their healing and well-being, but also how it's applicable to the holistic modalities that we're working with, as well as the entire healthcare system. So it's so encompassing but yet so easy to read. And it's really because, you know, in the past couple of years I've gone down this rabbit hole of reading everything in quantum physics and everything in the spiritual world right, quantum physics, and on everything in the spiritual world, right.
Speaker 2:I found a book that quite kind of combined it both together. I had to piece it in my brain and you're basically reading your book. I was like, oh, this is like piecing everything together for me in a really nice readable format. It's almost like I wish I started there, I didn't have to go the harder path, you know, reading those quantum physics books first, but but it's really amazing what you've done and congratulations on that. And I just wanted to get like your perspective, like how I mean I'm sure it's like years of work and research and it reads so easily. But I know how much research you had to do to translate it to this easy language to do to translate it to this easy language.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think it's so interesting how life happens for us, right? So I would say that my story, like all of our stories, has guided me to understand these concepts. Like I was kind of forced. I had a sick child, I had my own health challenges, I was in a Western nurse. I saw a lot of illness. I asked a lot of questions because I thought how could people come to the hospital and just have no clue how sick they really are and it? You know, I have a really big heart and I it just disturbed me terribly, disturbed me terribly, and also that we didn't have really total answers for them. Like as a Western nurse, like I was dealing with cancer patients and lots of autoimmune and everything you can think of AIDS at the time, and I mean now we have that more under control, but it's still there, obviously. But there are so many things I saw and I was just asking the question why? And because I asked that question and I think we all have to keep asking questions.
Speaker 3:If I'm a nurse and I go to my education and that's what I learned and I think that's all I have to know, that's not true, because we are in a time of awakening. A change is happening on the planet and what that means is we are learning a lot very quickly, like it's sort of like we were in the dark. I tried to explain. We were in a dark place and now the light has been turned on and now we see a lot of things we didn't see before and we have to address them. We can't just keep denying them and fearing them and putting them under the you know covers and saying, oh, that's not true, we didn't do 20,000 peer review studies yet. No, because what is science? Science is asking questions and we have to get back to that. We have to start to say why does this make sense?
Speaker 3:Holistically, like we became very reductionistic. I think you know what I mean, julie. So in the medicine world we, you know, if you talk to somebody who's an expert in cardiology or if you talk to somebody who's a gastroenterologist and then you ask them a holistic question, you'll get an interesting answer because they're not trained holistically. I was not trained holistically, so we got to get back to the whole understanding who we are as human beings and what makes why we're here actually, why we're on this planet and what we're here to do and why how we can do it well.
Speaker 3:And I think the other thing I want to say is that it disturbs me terribly that so many people are suffering physically, mentally, emotionally, spiritually, all over the planet right now and they can't do the work they're meant to do because they are truly I mean, we are amazing human beings, so we have to feel good to do what we're meant to do. So if you're listening to this today and it's touching you that this is your story, even if you're a therapist because I know many therapists who are still suffering please keep searching and look at the hole, because the answers lie in the hole, or the quantum, as you would think.
Speaker 2:Well, thank you for this beautiful introduction and I think so many people can relate. So I mean, all of us have at any points of our lives, right, I don't think there's a human on this planet that didn't encounter what you're describing. You know, you go to a traditional medicine doctor and you get partial answers. You get or in the worst case, misdiagnosis, right, and it's a very kind of can become a very hopeless place and for many people, and where they kind of feel also out of control, right, they lose their power. Often, I think, like anytime I go to the hospital, I get this like energetic feeling that you know you give away the power to heal, yeah, and it's fearful right.
Speaker 3:It's fearful. It's an out of control. Because you give your power away, you become. A lot of fears come up, like if you don't have any feeling that you control on some level your destiny, then who is going to control it? And their frequency might not match your frequency. In other words, you're in this big institution and you're just. You have to trust this person with your life, and that's quite hard right now. But I want to say one thing I have a whole family of doctors. They're wonderful people. They try their best. They're in a system. It's falling apart as we speak and we need to understand that the old structures are falling now so that we can create new ones, but not making us wrong, not saying science is wrong or this person's wrong or that person's wrong. So whenever I hear a scientist or a medical doctor say the healer's wrong or the healer says the doctor's wrong, it's where we don't want to be. We want to listen to each other and come together and create a better world.
Speaker 2:Absolutely. I agree 100%. It's about integration. I have so much compassion for anyone working in the medical field today. Like you said, it's a path, and the path right now is just very rigid but, however, there's more and more doctors that are discovering the holistic path, and more healers also. You know, getting functional medicine degrees and all kinds of things that you know bring the two communities together and this is really, I mean, one of my missions. I don't believe in separation. Anyone who reads about quantum field or read one little book about quantum physics knows that separation is really danger. Healers to feel you know what they're bringing to the table, even though it doesn't have the 20,000 peer-reviewed studies right.
Speaker 2:It doesn't work. There's 2000 ancient wisdom books that talk about this modality and that may be, you know, comparable. I don't know.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I love that, yeah, so it's important. Of course I love what you say because one of my first experiences was Ayurvedic medicine. I talk about that in my book. In my book I take you on my own journey because I had also my health challenges and some of them were emotional, mental, after I had a postpartum depression. I also had a son that was sick and some other challenges, a daughter that was a new kind of new energy daughter who didn't want to be in the body at all, so she was flying and having accidents all the time. So I was having all these stories with my children and my life. That helped guide me.
Speaker 3:And I lived in the Netherlands, which is a much more integrated they're much more open, more feminine society. I was, I don't know. I married a Dutch guy, just ended up here. Of course I tell that in the story, but it's like nothing's an accident, right. So immediately I was taken very many years ago to an ancient healer, kinesiologist lady and I talk about her in the book who's now passed on. She always said you'll bring the new, I'm only meant to teach you. She was so cute and her name was Jose Verhusen. I have to give her credit. But I had many teachers, but she was just so significant in my life.
Speaker 3:But anyway, the point was that I started to learn a very important idea that had disturbed me since I was a nurse, which was actually health and wellness are about connection. When your field, your creator matrix, your body, mind, spirit, all levels, emotional body, all of it is flowing and connected to the field, you are healthy when you are. Any part of you has disconnection or you would say compression, whether it's physically having toxins you've eaten a lot of toxins or whether it's emotionally low frequency emotions based on a certain comfort zone, with a certain emotion, like, let's say, guilt, you get comfortable with that, you just keep living it every day. That occurs at the cell level also. So toxicity can occur on all levels of our creator matrix and block our channels of connection to that universal field. So we have to first you know this is what I always say to my students we have to first all agree that we create our reality, that we are not just a physical like body. You know many people still believe that we're just physical and that's it.
Speaker 3:So science has proven now and you're right the quantum story is that we are all connected through a field, that we are all appendages of this field. We're like little, small pieces of it and we're all creating reality in this matrix that we're in. And the matrix is now shifting Like we were like matrix got a bad name, so matrix is. We think of matrix as like a bad thing, but it's not. It's a system, it's a structure. It's how things work and when things are evolving very quickly now to a more higher frequency world, that we're going to a more loving world, we are going to have a more sacred, our geometry is rising, is raising in frequency and, as that's happening, all old modalities of healing might not work. In other words, where we're going is a new place, so with new possibilities, so we have to be open to those possibilities.
Speaker 2:So what do you mean by? Some of the old modalities might not work.
Speaker 3:Well, that's a very good question.
Speaker 2:So it might trigger some of our listeners.
Speaker 3:So I want to clear that clogging of the matrix very quickly, yeah Well let's put it this way If we could use those mentalities in the past to unclog our greater matrix, wherever it was, it might be that our baseline is much higher. So let's say, we use a certain erp to clear something and it could completely clear it before, but now our baseline has changed. So maybe that herb isn't going to completely work now. And that's just an example, there's many. So we are changing our very basics. We have been a carbon-based structure at our atoms. You know, if we look at matter, we look at just matter, our physical matrix, not the energetic world, just the matter. We see that we were very carbon-based.
Speaker 3:What has gotten in the way of our creator matrix functioning optimally is a lot of synthetics. They have interrupted this carbon-based structure. They don't vibrate like us, so they can cause trouble in that flow. Okay, so that's one problem. So, as we're realizing that and I think the world's starting to wake up to that like, I'll give you an example vitamin and minerals. In the old days we could just take a whole bunch of vitamin minerals. We didn't, we were not conscious of where they were coming from or that pharmacy was making most of them and that they were mostly synthetic. So we were like oh, this is great, I feel better, great. But we had no idea of the consequence of what synthetic vitamins can actually do in the long run. And so now we're starting to look at that and I give that as an example.
Speaker 3:So what we are, we're all frequency, like every part of us is vibrating. Every part of our creator matrix vibrates. And when we feel good, it vibrates in harmony. When we're not feeling good, there's disharmony or imbalance. So when we look at the whole idea of it, then we have to. I always say it's bio-individuality. So, for instance, we're also realizing because this is what I was taught in medicine someone comes in, they have this problem, you give them this, this will be the answer.
Speaker 3:But what I'm realizing, as we are evolving and shifting our frequency and we are rising very quickly, that actually that's not true. I could give someone a medicine now and it might've worked before and it's not working now, and they can't understand it, like, oh my goodness, in fact it makes me feel worse. So this is the kind of thing we're seeing, and also with certain herbs. So I say try everything yourself. There's no one size fits all, just like food, it's the thing. So we can't say this is the perfect diet. You have to have this every day to lose weight or you have to have this to be healthy. No, you need certain things, that's true. You need certain nutrients. However, you don't need you don't need to know like each person's so unique that you know we can't get into that all today, the whole gut, because that's a whole, nother issue. But let's just say every part of us matters.
Speaker 3:I used to meditate with people to the 20th dimension or 12th dimension and I went in the back of the room and they had cancer autoimmune and I thought that's not how we're supposed to live. Back of the room and they had cancer autoimmune and I thought that's not how we're supposed to live. So we can't deny the physical body and what the physical body needs, and what we do understand is the physical body is changing. So we have to be aware and be patient with this process because maybe in the future, like I've heard, there are some people that don't even eat anymore on this planet. You know it's. They're called breatharians. That's, that's hard, isn't that amazing? Like I have never met one. But I've heard of them and some of them are monks and they just meditate all day long, and that's how they get their energy. So I think what I'm saying is we're all unique, so we have to understand that each person will need different things, and this is something we are starting to understand.
Speaker 2:Wow, that is so profound and I have so many follow-up questions because, first of all, I could relate to so many things you said just in my own like health journey, and you know, I feel like I have access to so many things that more like an average person can have different modalities, different healers, different.
Speaker 2:You know, here in the States we have access to like any possible supplement and testing and all of that and still there's so many like unanswered things and things that should be working but they're not. And you kind of answering that for me it makes total sense because you're absolutely right, like we are, we're not probably the same like human DNA as it was like 20 years ago, even 10 years ago or maybe five. So that's a really fascinating concept. And the follow-up question that I think a lot of our listeners are going to be like, well, first I mean it sounds kind of right, but it also installs a little bit of like insecurity. If you are a practitioner today, if you are herbalist right, taking your example, and you know those herbs work for thousands of years before, do I have to rewrite the book now? How do I even approach my practice?
Speaker 3:I think. First of all, I know this is going to be mind-boggling, but where I am, I am working many years in the field of healing and I see with my patients and clients what's working and what's not, and there is no one size fits all. So if it's working, you know we have different DNA, so some DNA might do better with certain Earth remedies. You know that's just okay, but other people are on the planet right now and they might not be Earth-based. That sounds crazy, doesn't it?
Speaker 2:But we're realizing that there are let's talk about different galaxies and where we're really coming from.
Speaker 3:Yeah, exactly. So there might be people who are coming from other places. We just we're just starting to get into this now and they might need different things. So I think what's important is again to keep curious as a practitioner, keep curious, ask questions, realize we are in the biggest quantum leap of consciousness that we've ever been in. It is the most exciting, amazing time to be alive.
Speaker 3:And in the future, where we're going, I believe we are going towards self-healing. We are going less into that. I'm the healer and I'm healing you Now. Does that mean we're there yet? No, we're not there yet and we're not going to be there for a while. I can't tell you when that's going to happen. It's going to need transition and during that transition, all people who are helping people heal are important and they're needed, but they need to be open that the world is changing and it's changing quickly, and doctors also do, and any doctor that says I have it all. This is the way it is, believe me. They're learning themselves, because I know many doctors who have gotten cancer and they say, oops, this just isn't working like I thought it was for me, you know, or whatever. I know a lot, a lot of nurses also.
Speaker 3:So I think we have to stay open to the idea that we're in this huge moment and there is an important thing to understand this quantum leap in consciousness is helping us. We are actually moving from what they say third density to a fourth density, or dimensional reality, and people often get the word dimension and density mixed up. But actually science shows us what dimensions are. They are the perspective of which you can see something. So you could almost say your density, I mean your dimension, is the actual matrix that you're allowed, that you can see, that is possible for you to see. So imagine that. Remember I said the lights are on now, so now we can see more. Our dimension has gotten a lot bigger suddenly, and that's harsh because you know we have belief systems that fit the old system, the old matrix.
Speaker 3:So imagine how much change has to happen for us in our subconscious, where we create our reality from right, our belief systems. If we have a belief system that we know, you know this is how it works. You take this medicine that's going to cure you. Well, if we believe that, perhaps it would work right, because I believe that's how powerful our thoughts are. However, we're starting to see this change because I believe in the future.
Speaker 3:Healing is going to be much easier when we understand that we are not just how do I say this? We're not just a physical entity, we're not just an emotional. Isn't it amazing that we also separated the mental? I used to think that was incredible. Like we, we put the people who are mentally ill in a mental institution, like literally. Like the mental was separate from the physical and the physical was separate from the no, we're laughing right the spiritual. We can't do that anymore. We have to realize that each part of our creator matrix affects the other. So in order to be healthy and well and thriving, we need to address all aspects of ourselves.
Speaker 2:Are you basically talking about our ability to see and work with the energies or the electromagnetic fields and the larger field as well, and is the energy healing is really the healing of the future?
Speaker 3:is really the healing of the future. I mean, I think it's a combination. Right now for sure, because we are still very much carbon-based structures. Physically, we can't deny that we have a carbon body. It's very dense, you know, but it's lightening up. So my idea is that we're going towards a much more crystalline structure in the future. By then. Perhaps you're right. If you're all crystalline in the future by then, perhaps you're right. If you're all crystalline, then you're all frequency. You don't even necessarily have a real density to you, then perhaps yes, by that point you're correct Then it would only be energy, right?
Speaker 3:However, I think, because we're in this matrix right now, which is also physical, where we have atoms, this matrix right now, which is also physical, where we have atoms, we have cells. They are in, by the way, cells, it's proven. They're multidimensional too, just like we are. So the cells need nourishments on all of those levels. So two things that have to happen for us to stay healthy right now in our matrix. It's not just energy, because I have known many energy healers and they try to do energy with somebody and it just doesn't work. And they do it with someone else and it works. It's a combination, in my opinion.
Speaker 3:But if you can imagine, you have the structure and you give people, you ask them, you want to help them and they're physically not well and you're working to help them on all levels and you ask them to connect with all levels and you just listen to them, like emotionally, how are you emotionally, how are you mentally? And you get in touch with what they're thinking about all day long, what they're feeling all day long, because thoughts create our reality. So imagine that we would like to say it's all just me going to a healer and I get a frequency and then I'm better. But if my thought patterns are not, I'm creating my reality. If my thought patterns, as the creator, are not what I really want to bring in my reality, they're kind of like I'm sick all day long and I keep thinking I'm sick and I'm never going to get better. And oh my God, that doctor told me I'd be dead in three months. Okay, I'm going to be dead.
Speaker 3:So if that's my thought, then you know I can go to all the energy healers I want, but I'm going to just that's powerful, do you understand? Because that's how I'm connecting to the field every day, by those thoughts. And so we need to get in touch with our thoughts that's very important and realize that we have to reprogram those thoughts and we have to make our thought patterns reflect what we want to be showing up in our life. So if we want to be completely healed and healthy and well, we have to believe that that's possible. And those are the clients that, when they get energy healing, do the best because they're working on changing those thought patterns, they're working on realizing that they have a choice if they wanna heal.
Speaker 3:Like I know a lady who healed herself by thinking joyful thoughts every day, because joy is a very high frequency and what we're realizing about illness is that illness cannot exist in a high frequency. If you're in a very, very high frequency, you won't be ill because you're good. That's where illness cannot touch. But if you're in a lower frequency like let's say what I saw a lot as a nurse the person was not taking care of themselves.
Speaker 3:They were not eating, maybe well, for years, but they were not sick until they got divorced, then that was the hit and then their self-esteem went low, all their fears came up. They couldn't support themselves. It just became so overwhelming in their life that then they got a disease, you know. And so where did it begin? Well, maybe you could say well, if they had been taking care of themselves every day for all those years and eating well, they might've had a different outcome. But that's also another question, right, Julie? Can we even eat with the food on the planet at this time? Are we going to be able to eat perfectly Well? That's also questionable.
Speaker 2:So that's such a loaded subject. Yeah, I know, yeah.
Speaker 2:So, that's a whole other episode about the foods of this planet and I love those monks, by the way, you mentioned this. This should be a new life goal. Let's just keep this food. Let's just leave the toxins Exactly, that's funny. No, I think you're sharing so much very deep and valuable information and I'll just keep coming back to you know, the energy healer, for example, that you mentioned right, and I think it's absolutely true that this is one of the challenges in the holistic field. Like you mentioned, it might work for one person but it might not work for another and there are so many different modalities and I do believe people eventually find, if they're really curious and they keep asking questions, they keep exploring, they find eventually the modalities that do work for them because there's just so many, but it's still, but it could be a lengthy and pretty expensive process, right?
Speaker 2:So my analytical brain goes to the question like, how can we make that process more efficient? Right? What if me, as an energy healer, let's say, just knew by a person coming in saying, listen, it might not work for this person and why even take their money, why even invest the energy? Or what's your point of view on that?
Speaker 3:Yeah. So, first of all, I've been doing energy work for years, so I would say that people always felt great when they left my office. So I would say that people always felt great when they left my office, so I was able to help their energy field, which is a field, to flow again all the chakras and the meridians. But if, let's say, they had a huge toxic blockage somewhere else or, as I said, their thought processes, or if they are spiritually not connected, they're kind of lost. Because, you know, we are creating a reality. So we have to be in touch with our higher perspective to really be whole. And many of us in this world we've been in have lost touch. You know, maybe we were in jobs for 30 years just because we had to, but they weren't really serving our highest purpose, right? So we are going to a new world where people will go to that higher purpose. You can see this with the new children. But what do I think? I think that energy in itself is where we are, who we are. We are energetic field period. I think that our purpose here is to bring the energy that we are into a body. That's why we came to earth. So we are incarnating here to bring part of our energetic field. We can't even bring it all here, that would not be possible, but now, because the shift is happening, we can bring more of us here.
Speaker 3:Okay, we used to just, let's say, we talked about density. Density is the amount of light that can be contained in our structure, in our creator matrix. So let's say we could have a certain amount of light before, and light remember what light is, is, and we all have to remember, as healers, light is information and creativity and being able to create through light. That's how we create. So light is information, though. Think about it like that. And here we are creating our reality through our field.
Speaker 3:The important thing to understand is that our field, we are meant to bring this light into a body. We wanted to do that. You know, even though there's a quantum jump now and our actual body is changing, still we have a body, so we have to honor that body and what the body needs, and that is very important part of the process. So you're right, like I see many people heal themselves through certain nutrition that they found, by eating better, by believing in that, you know they heal. So I see people healing through energy work. I see people healing through changing their thoughts.
Speaker 3:But ultimately we're going to have to probably look at all aspects of ourselves and say are all these aspects of ourselves functioning in harmony together? In other words, are they all talking to each other? Are they connected? And so if we started this conversation that connection is health and wellness and disconnection is disease, then we have to say where we're going as a planet is to understand that we are going to help people holistically to become completely connected, that their whole creator matrix will vibrate in high frequency and feel amazing, and that perhaps in the future we will just know all the ways to do that because we will have understood this concept better and we will have worked together all people listening to each other, not fighting with each other, but listening, integrating their knowledge to accelerate this process. Does this make sense?
Speaker 2:So, Absolutely, and we talked a little bit about during our pre-convo. How you know, we wish this. At least I wish the scientific community was also more willing to offer some of those concepts and collaborate and integrate with the holistic community, because I think it's just so profound. But the information right now is kind of siloed, right that there's the scientific studies, there's the ancient traditions and now, like people like yourself, you are starting to help merge them together or at least see the similar patterns. And you know, my hope is, with this conversation, also to bring it closer to the holistic healing community in a way that it will inspire them to think okay, now that I understand how this atoms and cells and this light energy works and what the entanglement is and all of those basics laws, right, how does it relate to my practice? Because I do think we have the power right now to really advance the holistic healing and go from this kind of.
Speaker 2:You know, I love the ancient traditions and it's amazing. But I think when I look at the general population, like there's this thirst for innovation, right, that people it's much easier to sell, like by hocking concepts. Yeah, I understand, I understand, right, and then some ancient tradition that might be good for you. So I think there is a bridge to be made right to infuse some of this quantum physics language into some of those ancient realities, and I do think some of the top spiritual teachers today they're doing that. Some of them are more open, some of them are less open about it, and when they open they get in trouble with the scientific community and then they get canceled. But that's a whole other story. Yeah, that's unfortunate, right.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yes, no, that's really unfortunate. So it's important to understand that in order to have health, we need connection, and in order to have connection, we need to clean each of our parts of our creator matrix. But what I haven't spoken about yet is we also have to build the structures properly. So building the structure of your creator matrix means that all those aspects are working in harmony, but also that the basic unit of the cell, our physical cell, gets what it needs from Mother Earth to be cohesive and coherent. And what we have realized and I realized through my research is that a big component of nutrition was missing, and that is the understanding of the sugars. So we know we are made of, our cells are made of proteins, fats, and now we understand that every cell of our body is made of these crystalline sugars which are called glycans. And these glycans are the actual connection to the universal field, the actual connection. They're crystals and they actually are in charge, at the cell membrane, of our connection to everything. So, in other words, if you look at a cell and you look at it connecting to its world, like, how does it recognize a toxin? How does it know what a hormone is? How does it know what an enzyme is? How does it know what food particles are? It has these glycans, and these glycans are the intelligence, they are the connectors, they are communicators that without those glycans we cannot be connected. Remember, we said we're bringing this light body into a physical being, so those glycans come from nature. So actually isn't that cool that from nature, physically we're all.
Speaker 3:So you asked about herbs. Herbs are amazing, but these glycans are sometimes in herbs. So the glycans are this, and there are eight of them. They form an alphabet on the outside of our cells that communicate with everything and we are communicating with them. So when we speak we are connecting to them. They vibrate, and so if we're constantly saying negative things about ourselves, guess what? The cell becomes very low frequency. And then the genes that will be expressed, and that's epigenetics, the other science I talk about expressed, and that's epigenetics, the other science I talk about, above genetics that the cell will express other genes that are maybe not like positive. You know they're destructive because you're telling it every day negative things.
Speaker 2:They don't know the difference between thought and reality. Yeah Right, it's interesting. So, yeah, so are you talking about the famous pineal gland with those crystals?
Speaker 3:Well, pineal gland, or is it something that's all?
Speaker 2:over the body.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's on every cell of the body, but those cells of our body are connected to our field and our field. The pineal gland, plays a role in the higher chakras. In other words, the pineal gland is crystal because it's also got those glycans. You should see, the glycans are responsible for how our neural networks work and our thoughts, how we have thoughts at all. They're because of the glycans. It's really quite amazing. And why isn't this science? My question is why aren't we hearing about this science in our schools? Every school should have this science right.
Speaker 2:Oh, you're preaching to the choir. When I started reading this, I realized, like everything I learned in school, I have to completely relearn.
Speaker 3:But I think we should be loving about it because we're in this new time. So, remember, we couldn't see it before. I couldn't see it before. It took years of, and in the old, dense energy that I grew up in because I'm older than you are, believe me we couldn't see it. We couldn't even see with our microscope a single cell. We, you know, we used to take the fuzz, which were the glycans, off because we didn't think they were important. That's ridiculous. But we were like, oh, we don't know what that is, so that's not important, let's just go to the protein or the fats.
Speaker 2:It's funny, no, you're right, but I just think most people like live with this again preconditioned structure that we learn once when we are, you know, young, and then we kind of just continue in our life with the knowledge that we absorbed. And it's just, you can't live like that these days, like the information is updated so frequently that it's kind of like you have to take biology, chemistry and physics every few years just to keep up to date on what's happening in the world. That's how I feel, because otherwise we're living by like in the old paradigm, right, yeah?
Speaker 3:Well, I think some of us are just meant to be the teachers, to make things more simple for people. I don't necessarily think that that'll be our future, but let's just say our whole educational system also has to change. You know all the old structures, even the. I have my whole family's in education and honestly, that's also got to change right. So we've got to look at that and and when our new kids are coming and they're interested in something, they're going to be much faster if they create their own curriculum in the future. But anyway, I think we're going to be going there, but right now it's a little.
Speaker 3:Yeah, we're in the transition. We have to be very much in our hearts. I encourage everyone who's a therapist or anyone out there that just wants to help other people to just go to their hearts and love yourself very much, because you're here for a reason. And if anything I said stimulated you to ask more questions you know good, then that's why I'm here. But if something I said didn't resonate, then it didn't, and that's okay too. So we need to not be in arguments about right or wrong. We need to be loving Like what is our truth. Let's go to our authentic nature now. If we could all be authentic, we would go faster through this process.
Speaker 2:Those are such wise words and I love that you talk about this new information and how it can be challenging for so many people and at this time, and I love this loving kindness approach to this new science right, and I can't believe we're running out of time. I feel like we could literally talk for hours. I have so many more questions for you, but maybe another episode and I'm curious to hear what our listeners think about this one. Any last words of wisdom for our holistic healers community.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I think you know. I believe that many of you are lightworkers. You're here for the new time. You know you are. Connect with each other, be open, heal all aspects of your creator matrix and and resonate at the highest frequency that you can Realize that you create in every moment. Living in the moment is what it's about, and that's it. I just send my best to all of you because I'm one of you, so I understand.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I know we didn't get to talk about your healing work. Doesn't matter, but I feel like this conversation was a healing work, so maybe we did. Yeah, of course, I think we did, it was such a pleasure to have you and thank you for your amazing work and for taking such a big effort to bring all this knowledge and material into this wonderful book, and I look forward to see what else you create in your creative matrix, creative matrix. And, yeah, thank you for all the work you do, thanks.
Speaker 3:Julie, and thank you for all the work you do. I'm so grateful to be here today.
