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Exploring new realities and spiritual evolution with Alan Steinfeld
Unlock the secrets of consciousness with our guest, Alan Steinfeld, a visionary in alternative medicine and a consciousness explorer. Gain insights from his book "Making Contact" as Alan guides us through the paradigm shift from traditional Newtonian physics to a quantum understanding of our interconnected universe. Discover the mind-bending possibilities of remote viewing and healing, and learn how breakthroughs in telepathy among autistic children challenge our perceptions of time and space.
Join us as we traverse the road of spiritual evolution and teaching, examining how to translate the unknown into the known. Alan shares his personal journey, from the intricacies of acupuncture to the expansive world of public speaking and writing. We explore the resonance of vibrations, from the cultural waves of the 60s to today's importance in aligning with those around us. Alan offers a candid look at balancing personal fulfillment with the ever-evolving landscape of spiritual and healing practices.
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Welcome to the Healist Podcast, where we inspire and guide healers through business expansion. We give voice to incredibly abundant healers to share their stories. We dive into the quantum field to unlock the energies of conscious creation. We also develop digital tools to help you grow, which you can find on hillistcom. I'm your host, yuli, and I'm grateful you chose to join this space. Now let's go deep. Hello, my dear friends, welcome to the very first episode of 2025. So excited to have with me here a very special guest today.
Yuli:Alan Steinfeld is an explorer of consciousness. For over 30 years he's hosted and produced the weekly television series New Realities in New York City. Additionally, with 90,000 subscribers to his YouTube channel and 22 million viewers who have been seeing his programs and this includes interviews with luminaries in the field of health, spirituality and UFOs, such as Deepak Chopra, marianne Williamson, ram Dass and every major UFO researcher in the field. With his media appearances, lectures and conferences, he informs millions about human potential, remote viewing and the nature of alien contact. He feels that only when the inner explorations of the soul are combined with the outer adventures of the mind can we achieve a harmonious understanding of our place in the cosmos. Of our place in the cosmos and what I recently discovered about Alan, that he also wrote a book back in 1997 called Careers in Alternative Medicine after he finished his acupuncture degree, so he's really a pioneer in this industry. It's such a privilege to have you here and also opening this amazing, incredible year for all of us, so welcome to the podcast.
Alan:And I think what you're doing is more important than ever, because people are looking for alternatives and you know the old ways, the old mainstream ways, are just not working for a lot of people who are not getting answers there. So it's an exciting time we're in.
Yuli:Thank you, no, absolutely. And you know, as we're getting, as we're starting this amazing new year, I would love to hear your perspective, just kind of start with the big picture. I mean, you've seen so much, you've been in the space for so long and I think the last it's a compliment the last few years, really, things you know accelerating to a new level Can you give us that bird's eye view?
Alan:Sure, I mean how I see it, and it does involve my new book, making Contact, but also the first book I wrote about alternative medicine. It seems like more people are aware of vibration and energy. You know we're moving from a Newtonian world, physics world, where things were matter and particles, to wave and energy. So this is the quantum field, the quantum. You know people talk about the quantum field and the quantum mind, and quantum is sort of like a little overused because people, I don't think, even know what it means. But it does mean that there's a holistic approach to consciousness, that we're part of this bigger picture where we're not separate. If you're looking at Newtonian physics and world, everything is separate and and and. The parts make the whole, but they but the part. The whole is greater than the parts make the whole, but the whole is greater than the parts, in a kind of quantum physics way of understanding reality. So I think, in general, the bird's eye view of the coming age we're moving into is that we'll understand energy and vibration much more. It'll be more a tool of social exchange. You'll vibrate towards the people you have a frequency match to. I mean alternative healing's always been about vibration, though, because we wanna overcome the mechanistic Western idea of medicine, which is still useful at some point. So what we need? But the pendulum has been so far the other way into just this materialistic, mechanistic worldview that we need the energetic, wave-like understanding of what reality is. But that's not it either. We, you know it's like the left and right brain. We need to be whole brain beings, but we've been so left brain logical that we need to, and this is what this time is, with lots of experiments in consciousness.
Alan:I just listened to the woman who's putting out the telepathy tapes. Have you heard about that? No, oh, that is a breakthrough. If you want a bird's eye through what's coming. What was her name? Diane? I just seen a couple of interviews where but it's so brilliant she, she looked at autistic children and realized that some of the severe autistic children who couldn't even speak, were actually telepathic. They actually would read the minds of their parents If they were, if their parents were looking at. Let's say there's one example of parents looking at an eye chart and the child is looking, asked to read the eye chart. They'd read the chart through the eyes of their parents, through the mind of their parents, because they sometimes couldn't see it on their own. But there there's this huge breakthrough in telepathy, esp.
Alan:I teach remote viewing. So this awareness that there's something about our minds that transcend time and space, that is the next frontier. It's all consciousness, right? People are just saying consciousness doesn't mean anything until you understand what is the application of consciousness. Because people just using consciousness like a substitute for God, and that's great, it's all conscious, it's all God, whatever you want to say. But how do you apply it? And you can apply it in remote sensing, remote healing, remote viewing, all sorts of ways of sending the local mind into the non-local field. Does that make sense?
Yuli:Yes, absolutely so.
Alan:that's the exciting part of what's coming. Go ahead, yes.
Yuli:Yes, and since you mentioned application, I would love to also get your perspective how that could be applied by healers directly in their practices.
Alan:The idea of remote. Well, people are doing remote healings all the time. But if you're a healer, I would recommend taking one of my remote healing courses because you could see, you learn to see inside someone's body. You become a sort of medical medium. I mean, you can't anyone can develop that skill and it's getting out of the way and letting yourself receive the part where you set your intention on.
Alan:So the way I teach remote viewing is like there's a target. Let's say I have someone. I'm saying, okay, where's this person? I give you their name, you tell me where they're at. You just set your intentions, like you set your GPS, and then you get your left brain out of the way and you receive it's receiving. The right brain is the feminine, it's the receiver part. The left brain, which has been overdeveloped, is the sender. It's like boom, boom, boom. It's the aggressive part and then this other part receives the message. All you have to do is set the GPS, which is your intent. That's how I teach it and then you sit back and you get your mind, your monkey mind, out of the way and you receive the images.
Alan:So when I've been working on people, I also do body work. I would come to like a tense part in that person's shoulder or something. And then I just tune in and ask the body I guess body talks a little bit about that, ok, what's this about? And then I say, would say something like like, would get like, okay, your father hit you when you were 10 years old. It would just come to me and they would say, well, how did you know?
Alan:I said, well, your body told me that and, like you know, sometimes I'm a little off, but I just let that come to me and you get feedback oh no, it wasn't 10, it was this or whatever. It's like you know. But you, you know the universe is talking to us, if we can only listen. So I would say, if you're healing, you're already a little intuitive. You also, you already want to give somebody something. That's transcendence of the mechanistic mode of behaving, and then you let yourself feel into it and you receive messages. It takes a little practice. You're not always right because people get their own stuff in the way, but everyone can do this.
Alan:Everyone can do remote viewing. Everyone has right brain facilities because it's the right brain and they learned this from the autistic kids that are much more open because it's not, I would say, confused with all this logical left brain linear way of being. So when that's out of the way, you're actually in the infinite field and when you can be in that space, when you're working with people, you can get a message. I would always check it out with the person because sometimes with people you can get a message. I mean, I would always check it out with the person because sometimes you know, you just say a lot of things but you can actually look at someone's body it's also what I do in class and say, okay, and this person looked pretty normal, nothing. And say, okay, where's this person having pain or where are the? Is there an injury or something? And people get it because the key is notice what you notice. That was actually a term that a poet said, but I use that in healing Notice what you know what stands out. Oh, the left shoulder seems fine, but why am I looking at this? So you just use your intuitive sense and apply it and you know fine tune, that it takes practice. You know, it's like everyone can play the piano, but the good people take practice. So you have to practice what? And it has to do with this non-local mind that we have access to take practice how the field is talking to you, the exchange with the infinite which we are. But we're trapped in the local understanding of the mind and we can access the non-local. So there's a big revolution in that.
Alan:The telepathy tapes are just going to really change reality. Look for that too. And lots of confirmation. I mean I'm teaching remote viewing like every month there's somebody who wants to or class. I just did seven semesters of teaching of these classes. I might do something on the shift network. So people are interested in this non-local reality. But you can't explain that with the ways we understand reality. How can you see what's not here? What sense do you use? It's not your five senses, but because we're infinite beings, divine beings, beyond time and space, we can tap into that field. It's what Joe Dispenza is also teaching. Lots of people are talking about this, but okay, well, you mentioned Joe.
Yuli:I'm going to his retreat in like a couple of weeks, so he is definitely one of my favorites and this is exactly the message that resonates so much, and I think I love also that you mentioned this idea that everyone can develop this telepathy. And we're seeing, definitely on our platform, you know, having thousands of healers from all over the world what are we seeing is that energy healing and intuitive reading becoming such a prominent modality that healers are not just using on its own using on its own but you will see, like the Reiki practitioners or Chinese medicine practitioners, they add that to their list of modalities because it's becoming one of those, like supplementary skills that are so crucial for healers.
Alan:Definitely, I have to say, about Joe. We had the same teacher, me and Joe. We were. We were at this mystery school, the Ramtha school, together. I'd known him for about 20 years, before he ever went public. He would teach you know about the Ramtha School together. I'd known him for about 20 years before he ever went public. He would teach you know about the Ramtha School. So I was that. I was there for I guess 25 years. He was there and you know I I knew him and now he's a big shot, which is great and he deserves that because he's really helping a lot of people. But I knew him.
Yuli:When I'm just kidding, no, I know I found your interview with him that I think was probably taped on a very old recorder.
Alan:But yes, it was yeah, because you know, no one knew him when he first came out, except I knew him and I knew he had this amazing gift to really motivate people, to tune into people. I mean, he used to give lectures at the Ramtha School, so you know, we'd open the lecture with hello geniuses, you know. And so I saw that evolution and I'm really happy that he is influencing and helping so many people because that he's passionate about it. It's his life and he's, you know, evolving the teachings all the time. So I'm glad you're going to learn something there.
Yuli:It's going to be my fourth retreat, and every one of them was different.
Alan:Yeah, he keeps learning new stuff. Did you see the movie the Source? Did you see that? Yes, of course, right. So yeah, I think. But it's the same idea that I'm talking about, but it's more. I feel like we're going more into the unknown. Maybe Joe's doing that now I haven't heard his lectures in a while but it's like we're here to what Ramtha said and what I go by. Maybe we're here as incarnational beings to make known the unknown. Do you know what that means? What does it mean to you?
Yuli:Well, joe talks a lot about the unknown and it's this. You know, people call it so many different names, like they could be the field, it's the void there's so many.
Alan:We're here to make known the unknown, you know.
Yuli:Well, it's connecting in the field and basically losing the sense of the reality and working with the fields and the energies and that's why I think that you mentioned the beginning of the vibrations are suddenly becoming important and more people are sensitive to that. You know, I'm talking to people that are completely not in the spiritual space and they say I started feeling vibrations all of a sudden.
Alan:Right. No, you're right about the making known. We're here to bring in new information that is in the field and that's the potential each one of us has and you know it is about that's the new language. Of course it started in the 60s. The first time I heard that Beach Boys song, good Vibrations, that was a paradigm shift for me. That was like it's an old song, I think it was whatever 68. But it's like that was like the mainstreaming of this whole idea of vibrations. And now, now it's. Yes, it was a song, was interesting, but now it's a reality.
Alan:You know you, you vibe with your tribe, you know those are the things that so yeah, and it's. And I think in relationships that's really. I've had to learn that the hard way. But you know, the relationship it's really. I've had to learn that the hard way. But the relationship it's not just a pretty picture. You want to really be on the same wavelength as the other person and you know it doesn't matter how they look or what they say or whatever it's like. Is the vibration there? Because if it's not there, I mean I don't see how it could work out.
Alan:But you know, and the same thing with healers and clients, in a sense. I mean, when I was doing acupuncture I really and this was just my problem I couldn't work on anyone I really didn't connect with, like I couldn't treat. That. It's like I wasn't interested in treating them. Maybe a good healer, it doesn't matter, they always find a way. But for me I was a little particular. Maybe that's my problem in general, I don't know. But I think we can raise people up. We can get them to a state where they do kind of drop out of the lower self, the lower self-indulgent sort of ways, egoic ways, because you know that will bring people down. And even about remote viewing and all that remote stuff, you have to transcend your ego mind if you're really going to tap into the non-local field. That's part of what we're here to do, so amazing.
Yuli:Well, I have so many follow-up questions from this Well, I'm just curious.
Yuli:You know we mentioned some of the teachers and I mentioned some of your teachings as well, and I think what a lot of practitioners that I see that are trying to navigate this idea. Okay, what do I teach when, how? How do I grow? How do I scale? What do I offer? You seem kind of, through your career, tried different types of offerings right, because you know you evolved, I'm sure, as a person, the customers, the clients involved evolved a lot your students. So how do you navigate this business in having this longevity right Also, without kind of like losing interest, but also finding what is the format that's right for you today?
Alan:Well, first of all, your interests may change over time. Like I studied acupuncture for four years and then I worked in that field for a while, but I wasn't really interested in continuing that because people were just coming to me with lifestyle problems. They want to lose weight, but I said so, change your diet. They didn't want to change their diet, so it's like, well, I can't help you. This is, there's no magic bullet, that that. So I got a little bored with actual those types of sessions. Of course it's great to help people and and you can in any type of modality, but but so my interests change.
Alan:I went more into public speaking and research and writing these different books, which was more interesting. And then, of course, if someone's in pain, I still like to do body work. It's kind of fun for me because I that's where I started, as a body worker I start. I was in the film business but there was this producer who was really overweight, very, you know, four or 500 pounds, and he was in pain all the time and he just asked me to to, I don't know, rub his shoulder or whatever. I just help him out because and I realized that I could go underneath the fat and get towards the muscle which was very strained because of carrying all that weight. And so I developed this technique of like I can massage people through winter coats now because I can go through the top layers and get to this underlying tissue that has the tension.
Alan:So that actually did get me into acupuncture because I wanted to learn more about the body and all that stuff. And it was all really great to learn about the meridians and all the different meridians. Most people just know the regular meridians, but there's the ancestral meridians or the psychic meridians, there's the tendomuscular meridian. I mean, the meridian system is so complex and so holistic unto itself that it's really a great field of knowledge. So I forgot what was the rest of your question. I went off on that.
Yuli:I went off with you, but I think we're talking about your journey from all those different modalities and teaching and formats of teaching, and how do you find?
Alan:Yeah. So I want to say I say yes to everything. When, especially, I was starting to research all this stuff and someone asked me to speak somewhere, and you know I would say yes, no matter what size of the conference, no matter who they were. So you know, I'd speak to two people or I'd speak to, I think, as many as 1,500 people. I just said yes, okay, someone said, can you do this? And you know, and then I did adult education. I talked about acupuncture and healing and these people who really weren't interested in it initially. But you know, I talked to them because they needed someone to give a talk. So I would just say yes.
Alan:Just say yes is my big advice. If you really want to build a following or a platform, just just say yes to whatever comes along and cause everything. You don't know where that opportunity is going to lead and even if it's, you're talking to two people. That was practice for me. Okay, I could try some new material out here on two people that you know may work in a bigger crowd, or you know it was fun. And you know, yeah, no one wants to talk to like one or two people, but it's, it was really good to do that because all the practices of speaking and even treatments, whatever you're doing, if it's you know one person, then okay, you know you're telling one person a week. So if you're doing a really good job and focus on them and give them the kind of energy they need, they're going to tell somebody and it's like so there's nothing too minimal or small, especially if you're just starting out to go for, because it all bears fruit in a good way. You must have heard that before.
Yuli:Yes, that's incredible advice. And then my next question is how do you go from those two people you're speaking to to 90,000 subscribers on YouTube that you have today?
Alan:Well, you know, when I got tired of acupuncture actually when I was studying acupuncture it was in Santa Fe and it was rooming with this guy who had a public access program there in Santa Fe, a public access TV, and I had done video in New York. That's how I met that producer, because I was doing like just very boring production assistance work. But then I was in Santa Fe and I started to do some video interviews with people. So, you know, when I came back to New York after Santa Fe, I wanted to continue interviewing people. So I started a public access in New York show and that was before YouTube, that was in the 90 show and that was before YouTube. That was in the 90s.
Alan:And I had this girlfriend said what are you doing with all those interviews? You don't even have enough airtime to broadcast them. And then she's the one who said to me in 2006, oh, I know what you can do with all those interviews. They're starting this online platform called YouTube that you can upload all those shows. And I said, okay, I guess that's why I was doing them all, because so I had all this material right in the early days of YouTube and people were trying to get material and do so.
Alan:I had hundreds of shows to that. I still have more to convert from VHS and mini DV, and so I have all this material and I have posted a lot of that from the 90s and even the 80s maybe, on YouTube. So, yeah, I was one of the early creators on YouTube, even before Google had bought YouTube and was just two guys in their garage doing uploads, and so, yeah, I mean I don't have as much subscribers as a lot of people, but I have maybe more than some, and it's building, and I'm always looking through my archives for more stuff. Like you know, I have interviews with Bud Hopkins. You know who he is. He was an early not early, but he was a big UFO researcher that was responsible for bringing new ideas into that field.
Yuli:So those get a lot of airplay because you know he's not around anymore and have these interviews with him, and so that's an incredible asset just to be able to have those interviews, like you said, that no one else has, and you're the one who has them on YouTube.
Alan:Right, you know, actually, gaia, I just, yeah, I'm trying to make some deals with Gaia because you know I'm a historian sort of. I mean if you see my apartment it's full of books and so it's like the history of like the spiritual movement from. I guess I kind of came into it in the early 1980s, so that's the last. What is that? 40 years, every little nuance and new fad and new healing modality and latest greatest teacher or snake oil salesman or whatever. I've tracked it and you know it's kind of fun to see the evolution of this industry, in a sense you know, and see what modalities are popular now and what have gone out of favor and what's coming in and where all that going, because it's its own history. It's like collecting baseball statistics. It's like, oh yeah, who's hitting the most home runs now?
Yuli:Amazing. I love that. And so any predictions for modalities that you think are really going to see on the rise?
Alan:Well, there are these a lot more. Well, I have to say, there are more like energy, machine type things which, like brainwave things, are coming out or I don't know. I don't like the machine stuff as much as the natural. I mean, you know, in a way it's there is nothing new. People would put their hands. If you see all those old Egyptian hieroglyphics with people's hands up, they were sending energy, you know. So I think, though, the potential of the human mind to be non-local and send and receive energies. There are some new, I guess machines or therapy. I mean, I like the float tank, you know, I know that's not new, but I like floating in the dark and weightlessness, where you are becoming pure consciousness. That's one of my favorite things to do. But yeah, I'm going to be at the Conscious Life Expo in LA and there's always, like the latest, greatest thing, people sending vibrations through toothbrushes that resonate with the teeth, the frequencies of the teeth. That's kind of new.
Alan:I just interviewed this really great woman, bianca Ruling, who has these frequencies for every part of your body and every illness or whatever you can have. There's frequencies that can correct that. That goes back to Rife, of course, and that's not new the Rife generator frequencies that can correct that. That goes back to Rife, of course, and that's not new the Rife generator frequencies that really do work. I mean there's resonance and frequencies. Oh yeah, I did meet somebody who's been able to translate the frequencies of nutrients into light and put that light into the body.
Alan:So there's a lot of new trends with the translations of frequencies in different modalities, like translating light frequencies into sound or nutrient, the frequencies of nutrients or different colors into sound or light, and I mean that's been around but I think they're fine tuning it now. But you know, those are easy to work with in a way and they're very beneficial. When your body resonates, everything's resonant. So your heart, lung, liver, kidney, they all have a different resonant frequency. And when you this is guy Mathon from England would calculate the frequencies of different organs and then broadcast the organs with the perfect kind of healing frequencies and it would have a physical effect on the body, that's also been around for a while, but now I think people are doing that more through computer generated sound.
Alan:So sound and light frequencies are as popular as ever and they're all good. You know there's some red light devices that are better than others because it has extra frequencies added to it. I think you can find the one that I like at the Grand Canyon Foundation. This guy, joss Daniels, has invented these red light beds that you lay under and you get all these nutritional frequencies as well as the red light frequencies. So I don't know. There's so much that's amazing.
Yuli:It's a great list and I got to tell you the frequency medicine to me. I couldn't agree more. I've experienced those that come through water, which is another field, that they charge the water with certain frequencies and I've seen miracles Personally with my family. I interviewed one of the practitioners, andrea Kandy, in one of my other episodes, if anyone wants to listen. But it's a whole new frontier and I'm surprised how much not talked about because I don't know what the reason is.
Alan:But Well, you can charge your water with your own frequency. This is what we used to do at the Ramda school. You hold the glass up to your forehead and you which is what Emoto demonstrated you put the what you want to manifest into the water and you drink the water and it has to have a resonant effect, you know. So frequencies are huge and as this whole vibrational revolution comes more and more popular and known, we will be working more with frequencies anyway, and I think don't deny the power of your own frequencies to, like Emoto showed, to change crystalline shapes, and so that's something. One more thing I really think is great is hydrogen water. Do you know about the holy hydrogen Like hydrogen.
Alan:I interviewed this guy. He called himself Mr Hydrogen but he cured his body with hydrogen. And there's something called holy hydrogen water. It's a device where you just it puts six parts per million device where you just it puts six parts per million pieces of hydrogen into water, so you're taking in more hydrogen. You know, hydrogen is the first element, it's the first thing from source. They don't know where hydrogen comes from. Of course it comes from atoms and all that, but where's all that come from? So hydrogen from hydrogen. The universe, our matter, universe, the field, everything you know around you, was created. So taking hydrogen into your body is connecting you back to the original source. And the other thing hydrogen does you know what is? H2o Right, the extra hydrogen combines with the free radical oxygen to flush out, you know, free radicals out of your body. So I recommend the Holy Hydrogen Machine.
Alan:You could use my code I think it's A-L-A-N code for a discount if you want to. And they are made modeled after the Lords. The water at Lords. That was a big healing miracle water at Lords, france, where the apparitions of Mary appeared and all that. And I do think there's something to that. There's a magic that happens at those apparitions sites. So the water at Lords was analyzed and they realized it had this extra hydrogen in it. So the Japanese created this device that modeled itself after the water at Lourdes and people are having great healing from the holy hydrogen water and I've been using it and you can also breathe it in. You can breathe the hydrogen in, but drinking the water, I think, actually goes deeper. So there's a water revolution.
Alan:There's that woman. What's her name? Veda Austin, from New Zealand. She's a big water. Have you heard of her, veda Austin. She's a great speaker about the power of water and you know water is the universal solvent, so water's big these days. People charging water, people and charge it yourself, holding your hand love your water as you put it in your body and of course you want good quality water. You don't want like awful polluted water or chemicals in it. You want the best water you can to charge it. And you know you filter your water. I mean if you're in New York you definitely need a filter for your water, or most cities, but if you have water from like an underground well, then you're giving yourself extra minerals and vitality. It's not just the water, h2o, it's the vitality, it's the structure of water. So water is a big thing. But that's been also been around for many years. The whole water energy thing, you know, but that's still big. And I think water vibration, all that light sound, they're all. They never go out of style. So they're big.
Yuli:And they're all connected to the quantum right.
Alan:Looping back, Well, yes, I guess they are, but you know, those are grounding things. Light sound water body embodiment yes.
Yuli:Switching back, no, well, thank you for this incredible overview and I think you gave so many great ideas to a lot of our listeners. But switching back a little bit to your career and this incredible longevity that you've built and I know it's been done over many decades, but it seems like you connected with some really, really incredible people on this journey and I know part of it probably was being so in the early days when it was still a small industry. But you continue to just be. You know the I don't know what the word for it, but I just remember I went, I came, to my first New Life Expo in Brooklyn.
Yuli:I was a couple of years ago and this guy just appeared and, you know, offered his services as my guide and, and you know, he was walking around and showing me all these people and saying, oh, this is Al Stifel. Do you know who he is? He has, you know, almost 100,000 YouTube subscribers, he's so-and-so. So, anyway, you seem to be somebody that people know and recognize, some sort of like a fixture in the scene. What is your? How do you manage this incredible network? How do you, you know, grow it? How do you maintain it? Well, I'll tell you.
Alan:There's one simple answer for me, anyway. I am constantly curious. So I don't think about maintaining a network. I don't think about you know, I think about, oh, this person. What is this person saying something new? I'm like a talent scout, the master, and you learn everything that you can from these pretty amazing researchers. And that's why me and Joe were at the Rampha school, like you know. That was pretty amazing wisdom for its time. And so I'm still seeking out new life and new civilizations. You know, as they say in Star Trek, but no, there's so many out new life and new civilizations. You know, as they say in Star Trek, but no, there's so many.
Alan:And of course, that was a little bit before the Internet the 90s, 80s, 90s and it's like wow, you can just get so caught up in research. Now. There's so many interesting things going on. So I go to a lot of the expos see who's new, see who's there. So I'm just and I'm always networking people too, I'm always connecting the dots. Oh, you should see this person here. I mean, if people are interested, I'll offer that. Or this person connects to that person and I don't know it's. You're just taking it all in. I don't know, you're just taking it all in and I like to review what I've learned and use it in my own practice. Life lectures Connect the dots is, I guess, one of my favorite pastimes. So I just do that because it's fun to make those connections for people and it kind of brings the world together a little bit more. So how do I do it? I do it because I have fun doing it. That's a good answer.
Yuli:Amazing and I guess we can't talk to you without mentioning the UFOs and how you got into that space from you know, going from acupuncture, writing books and all of that. I'm sure there's a story.
Alan:Yeah, it's actually in my book If you get a chance to read chapter seven. But let's see how I was always interested as part of this adventure of the unknown, always interested in space. I wanted to be an astronaut growing up and I was just at the NASA Space Center in Florida, which was a little disappointing because we weren't out in space. But no, I was interested in these way out stuff. I'm an Aquarian, you know I'm an Aquarian, you know, born under the sign of Aquarius Sun. Do you know about astrology a little bit?
Yuli:Yes.
Alan:Sun, my Aquarian sun is in the 11th house of Aquarius Sun. Do you know about astrology a little bit? Yes, sun, my Aquarian sun, is in the 11th house of Aquarius and has this opposition to Uranus, which is also very Aquarian as we move into Aquarian. So all those Aquarian ideals are something that I'm really excited about. And UFOs, this unknown reality. I think this is the most exciting thing. Yeah, we talked about healing modalities, but the fact that people and the government and insiders are saying we're not alone in the universe, that there's something else to see here, that the world is bigger than we thought, I think that is the most exciting thing to investigate on the planet. And what makes it even more exciting is that nobody has any answers. It's like this is an unknown field, it's like a whole new territory. I mean, the government does have some answers. They probably do have crash retrieval, they do probably have bodies of aliens, because that's been acknowledged, at least off the record somehow. But they're just looking to make weapons and I think the whole reason they're not making any progress is because the ETs are not interested in letting government make weapons from this technology, you know. So I think they're really here, whoever they are, because I don't think we know People say Pleiadians or Syrians. I don't think you can make those general statements like that because we're not educated enough to there's something here for sure, and they're definitely from somewhere else. I think I'm pretty positive in making that claim.
Alan:So I just became obsessed because, yes, about my story, I did have an experience of traveling cross country where I think I did have, like you can call it an abduction or something type of experience where it's like I was into it before that. But then once I realized that oh no, this may have happened to me. I was, as they say in the business, sucked down the rabbit hole and became obsessed. You know when something happens to you that you can't explain and I still can't explain it. You know like this missing time and this mark on my body and then this weird dreams. But so when something happens, like even in trauma, when something happens, people do two things at the same time they, they, they pull back, but they become obsessed. You know time, they pull back, but they become obsessed and in a way, there is a bit of a trauma involved in the contact experience because it's so far outside what we call normal and ordinary that there's no place to put this. So that's why I really enjoy talking about it and speaking about it and writing about it, because it's like we're here.
Alan:Like Joe Dispenza says, make new neural pathways of the unknown, that people can cognize these new realities and then recognize it as it's put out to the public. Right, you can't recognize anything you haven't cognized. So part of this field, the phenomena, is cognizing new realities. There's no place for ETs or whatever these things are in our world unless we carve the neural nets of understanding to make a place for them. And actually Joe's doing that now in those workshops. He's talking about the beings there and all that.
Yuli:So but I've seen them. He's not just talking about them. I've seen them.
Alan:You've seen them in Joe's workshops. Yes, what did you see?
Yuli:Well he works with. I think there's different types of beings that accompany. Especially it's on those big retreats. When you have 2000 plus people, what?
Alan:did you see?
Yuli:Blue beings white beings.
Alan:How did you see them? Did they physically show up to you?
Yuli:Well, you can. I don't think in that world the term physical is appropriate, but there was definitely. They were as real as a physical person would look like. Did you see them? With your eyes open or closed? No eyes closed, and you can sense their energies. And you know, when you have multiple people reporting on the same vision, you kind of. That's what creates reality, right?
Alan:Right. Well, that's, I think, what this whole UFO phenomenon is about. It's about a planetary shift where all of us will be able to sense these beings, shift where all of us will be able to sense these beings. And I'm happy Joe is working in that field. Because when I first interviewed Joe, I asked him about ETs. He goes well, that's not really in my field. And I said and then I saw him last year at some conference I said, joe remember I asked you because I gave him a copy of my book. I said you said you didn't want to talk about this and now you're talking about it.
Alan:He goes well, it wasn't my experience when you asked me those questions, which is honest you know it is yeah, so I think it was a big leap for him to actually acknowledge that, because it took the work to a whole other level. I don't even think he mentions that in the source film, does?
Yuli:he no, no, no. I don't think he publicly acknowledges that.
Alan:Well, he's been ultimately talking about it, but it's the talk among the students.
Yuli:If you talk to many of his especially advanced students who have been to many retreats and I think he mentions it during the retreat and I like his explanation and I think it makes a lot of sense that you have to raise your vibration to a certain level to be able to see and interact with them.
Alan:That's what the whole phenomena is trying to do for the planet. You've heard about the drone issues in New Jersey right, right, I was going to ask you, yes.
Alan:Well, I think, because there's the machines and then there's these orbs and these plasma things. So what I think, and I don't know, because the government is saying, well, we don't know what they are, which is a big lie, because I think they do. But I think there are these ET craft coming, coming and in order to kind of confuse people, the Pentagon has put up their drone craft to intersperse with these ET craft and just to kind of confuse the matter a little bit, because they don't want to completely give over the narrative to these other beings just yet, but narrative to these other beings just yet. But they're showing up because now people are aware that there is something out there and that it is a shift in vibration. This is how people do CE5s. Have you heard about the CE5 practice? It's close encounters of the fifth kind where instead of they're making contact with you, you're making contact with them. So you're calling out to them the good ones and I think most of them are pretty good, you know to come to you. So most of the time people would wait for them to show up, but now we're sending out the signal for them to appear to us, and so there's a lot happening.
Alan:There's so many moving parts in this particular genre of New Age awakening that that's why it is so exciting. You know, I think they are here, maybe like Joe is doing, to raise our vibration, to raise it up by because when you're in the presence of these beings at least in my experience, and they've just appeared in dream states, and actually Daryl Anka talks about this too. You know who Daryl Anka is. He channels the being Bashar. I've interviewed him about this. When you're in the presence of these beings, your vibration is shifted and unless you can remain lucid, conscious, aware, their field is so much more powerful that you just go unconscious. You can't maintain self-awareness in the field of these beings unless you practice lucidity, lucid consciousness, because it's like trying to get Wi-Fi on an AM radio we don't have the bandwidth, but we have the potential for the bandwidth. It's just that we haven't got those bandwidths in place. So when these beings show up, the idea is to maintain an altered state of consciousness.
Alan:There's something called the Oz effect among many experiences have you heard about that? Where reality shifts. It's like these beings show up and suddenly well, I've had this to me the air looks still, everything is just still and quiet, and there's a different essence. Some people get really, really tired at that. Some people feel this vibration through their body. I mean, even Gary Nolan if you know who he is talked about this vibration. He's very mainstream scientist, but he's had these experiences. He talked about this vibration. He's very mainstream scientist, but he's had these experiences. He talked about this vibration through his bike.
Alan:So I think, in general, what we're talking about with the healing and the UFOs and all that, and what's happening in 2025, it's just my feeling is that the vibrational field of the planet is definitely shifting. We are putting the clutches down and we are on the gears and we are moving from third to fourth to fifth and that's what we're feeling. The world post-COVID is stranger than ever and you know, so much has changed. I mean the fires happening now in California. That's really upsetting. It's upsetting to see, upsetting a lot of world, but everything is changing and it's not fun sometimes, but it's, you know, and it's awful for that to happen to so many people. But there's no but and I also think the world is not the same as it was, you know, five years ago. And this whole idea of feeling and vibration and frequency in energy, medicine, in UFOs and politics and planetary frequencies. It's all about the same thing in different formats.
Yuli:Well, that is an incredible summary and prediction at the same time. I couldn't choose a better speaker, a better guest to kick off our year and put it all in perspective. Alan, thank you so much for this wonderful conversation. I feel like we could go on and on, and I would love to have you back anytime, anytime.
Alan:I'd love to talk about remote viewing a little more, because once you get that skill you could use it for anything and you know it's a practice also. You have to really. But we are infinite beings. That's my kind of final comment. We are forever infinite beings. That's my kind of final comment. We are forever infinite beings. And when we realize that and funny thing is, the CIA, by wanting to spy, compete with the Russian psychic spying program, develop remote viewing, which of course the masters and mystics have known forever, but now it's become mainstream they kind of the CIA indirectly introduced us to our transcendent forever beingness in a sort of indirect way. But so what I'm saying is yeah, I'll come back and talk about how each of us are actually existing beyond time and space, and remote viewing absolutely proves that to be true.
Yuli:Incredible. Well, I definitely want to take one of your classes and become one of those experts and again, thank you so much for all your wisdom.
