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The Heallist Podcast
Authentic self expression as an art of healing with Tannaz Hosseinpour
Join us for a conversation with Tannaz Hosseinpour, founder of the Minutes on Growth Community Podcast, as she shares her journey of spiritual awakening. Inspired by Dr. Wayne Dyer and Deepak Chopra, she explores the universe as a shattered mirror, balancing feminine and masculine energies, and the power of soft discipline—a compassionate approach to personal growth.
Tannaz highlights how collaboration fosters accountability and transformation, and how creating supportive communities allows individuals to thrive. This episode is filled with wisdom, inspiration, and actionable insights to deepen your spiritual journey.
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Welcome to the Healist Podcast, where we inspire and guide healers through business expansion. We give voice to incredibly abundant healers to share their stories. We dive into the quantum field to unlock the energies of conscious creation. We also develop digital tools to help you grow, which you can find on healistcom. I'm your host, Yuli, and I'm grateful you chose to join this space. Now let's go deep.
Yuli:Hello, my dear friends, welcome to another really, really powerful episode of the Healist Podcast, and I have a feeling it's going to be powerful because our guest today is Tanaz Hazenpur and she's the founder of Minutes on Growth Community Podcast.
Yuli:A certified life coach specializing in relationships both with oneself and with others, as well as conscious manifestation, with an academic background in conflict resolution, law and counseling psychotherapy, she combines these diverse skills to empower individuals to create meaningful connections and manifest their desired reality.
Yuli:And I'm just so excited to have you and we were just chatting before and trying to choose a topic for this conversation. As all of you know, we go just usually unscripted and pretty organic, and there were just so many themes that came up and all of them are very powerful and deep and we could spend hours on each each, but some of the things that came up is the ideas of being this perfect conduit of the universe and trusting the voice, being open to receiving guidance and signs, balancing feminine and masculine energy some really big topics. So I don't have one intention. I usually set intention for those episodes, but all of them just sound like exactly my cup of tea and I would love to spend the next hour, you know, just getting your perspective on things and your energy is so beautiful and I'm just grateful to have you here. So welcome to NASK, Thank, you, yuli.
Tannaz:Grateful to be here and to share with you, and thank you for creating the space?
Yuli:Absolutely so since we already dropped some of those hints into our audience, I would love to kind of just learn more about your perspective, because I have a sense that you have a very unique perspective on life, universe, what we call manifestation, even though it's been so overused these days and everyone has their manifestation technique and there's like been so overused these days and everyone has their manifestation technique, and there's like here's your five tips and here's your three steps, or whatever it is. I want to hear from you how do you see things?
Tannaz:Ooh, beautiful question how do we see the universe? I see the universe as for me, it's like a mirror that's been shattered into a million pieces and we're all, each one of us, is one piece of that, and when we all come together, that that community, that connection creates the full image. We are all parts of each other. That which you see in me exists within you, that which I see in you exists within me, that which I see in you exists within me. And I love how Ram Dass would say, we're all just walking each other home. So it's something big that we're part of, but we're also something big ourselves. So it's the universe is within me and I'm within the universe.
Tannaz:That's how I'd like to see it, that's how I've been seeing it over the past. I started the spiritual work when I was in my early 20s, so let's say in the past 13 years and slowly building a much, much, much better relationship with the universe as the day goes by and just trusting. It's like the most, for me, the most important relationship one needs to spend time on, and it's like the best cheerleader, the best, best friend you can have. And if you can cultivate that relationship, it kind of trickles into every other relationship and it's a great foundation to have.
Yuli:Absolutely. And how do you cultivate those relationships? I mean, people have a lot of different practices and techniques. If we had to look at your journey or your even daily routine, what does the relationship look like?
Tannaz:The relationship started with a lifequake, with an event that changed my whole life overnight. That was beyond, outside of my scope of control, and Rumi has a beautiful poem and he says the wound is where the light enters you. And I think for me it was breaking down, breaking open, and my mom walked in with a book by Dr Wayne Dyer and she said I think this is going to make you feel better and it really did. It opened my heart to Dr Wayne Dyer, to Deepak Chopra, dr Joe Dispenza and all of them after that bless their souls for being on this realm to share all of that with us. And then it's just over the years. It's kind of figuring out how I wanted to feel when I thought of the universe.
Tannaz:And so my undergraduate degree was in religion. I've always been so amazed at how religion impacts human beings and how it influences our behaviors and our belief systems. But I always saw it from a very analytical perspective, from a very like logical perspective, and so when my heart shattered and my soul shattered and it kind of opened that space for all this new information to come in, it was all about like how I felt. So how did I feel when I was meditating. How did I feel when I was sitting in front of a mirror, crying and like having make-believe conversations to this entity called God, but looking into my own eyes, which I later found out was like mirror work and Louise Hay's work?
Tannaz:How do I feel going into religious sites, even which ones bring me the sense of ease in my heart? I was just recently in Southeast Asia for four months and I was traveling and doing a lot of research on the correlation between mental health and faith and where which spaces uplift me. So for me, my spiritual practice is going to spaces where I feel inner peace and safety and security in my body. Sometimes that's a Buddhist temple, sometimes that's the trail by my house, sometimes that's sitting with someone I love, and sometimes that's sitting in my closet under my clothes and just taking slow, deep breaths. So it's all coming back to the body, and the safety of the body for me is my spiritual practice.
Yuli:So talk about that journey right Coming from this shattered pieces and then turning to who you are today, it sounds like it was quite a leap to make.
Tannaz:Yes. So I was 20 when that life quick happened. I just finished my undergraduate degree, again in religion, political science. The intention was to go to law school and I was always great at speaking as a child. So my parents were like you were meant to be a lawyer and that kind of was conditioned into me. Went to England, did my master's in law and, being from the Middle East, we're a very oil rich country, so oil rich whole region, but specifically the countries that I was raised in the United Arab Emirates and Iran and you know, my dad was like why don't you go into like oil and gas trade management? I was like, great, I'd love to study. I was like, okay, I'll go there. And I studied that. And the intention was to go into like being a corporate lawyer for oil industries.
Tannaz:And I came back to the Middle East and I was like no, I don't want to do this. This doesn't feel aligned with my values, with who I am. It feels like, oh, I have to drag myself out of bed. Thinking about it made me feel icky on the inside and so I had this time as a self-inflicted I would say, life quake was like I don't know who I am anymore and I was doing more of the inner work and I was reading more of these books. And it's like, who are you, ask yourself, who am I? Not who my parents want me to be, not who my community wants me to be, but who am I? And I went through another six months of really dark and I've you know, I've always known what I wanted to do. So it was really hard to kind of be like okay, scratch it all out. What am I meant to do with my life? What is my purpose? Why am I here and sitting?
Tannaz:One day, one of my friends reached out to me and was like you should start a podcast. I was like, what is that? It was like 2016, 17. He was like, no, you should do a political podcast. You always have so much like insights into this. And I sat with it Like, at that point I knew that nothing is a coincidence. Universe speaks to us through other people. I sat with it. I was like, okay, eventually I would love to do a podcast, but not on politics. I want to share all the lessons that I'm learning with all these spiritual books that I'm reading, and I have a very teacher archetype, so it's like I want to simplify these topics. I want to share what I'm learning and make it easy for everyone to have access, and so that's how the podcast came about.
Tannaz:And I started a book club because I love to read. And one of the girls in the book club a couple of months later was like you should be a coach. I'm like what is that? She was like because I went on Instagram. I was like coach as a hashtag. I was like wow, like I have no idea what that is. When did my coaching certification? And I was like, okay, well, they're like niche down.
Tannaz:And because I had done dispute resolution law, which had a lot of family mediation, which had a lot of like, you know, fighting and couples, you know the divorce and separation, it was always in the back of my mind of why do people get here? How do people get here? You know you're kind of in love when you get married. And so I was like I would love to niche down on relationships and especially relationship with self. And I had practiced and gone to certifications for Reiki and other healing modalities and I was like what if I kind of combine them both? What if I bring spirituality with these like scientific, research-backed relational skills and tools.
Tannaz:It doesn't have to be one or the other, and that's really how my business started and it's grown over the past 70 years, and I keep reminding myself. Every day when I wake up and I was sharing this with you earlier today when we were speaking I remind myself that nothing belongs to me and my goal is my job, my responsibility is to wake up, to be a medium, a vessel for creative force to flow through me and to let the universe do its magic through me. And I am the conduit. My fingers are typing, but it's not me who's typing. There's another energy that's enabling this typing, which reminds me of Dr Wayne Dyer. He would say he would wake up every day at the same time and he would write. He would just sit there at the table and, like the pen, would write. So that's how I've just been growing my business. I wake up and I say universe, tell me where to go, what to say and who to say it to. And that's been my favorite prayer ever since.
Yuli:Well, thank you, universe, for bringing you here to say your words to us, because it's just so beautiful and inspiring words to us because it's just so beautiful and inspiring. And you mentioned that your business has grown since then, and something else that you said we were chatting before that you don't do any marketing. People just find you, and that's incredible to me. So I would love to double click on that and learn. You know who are the type of people that come to you. How do they find you? If you don't do any marketing, how does this universe work for you?
Tannaz:So, so, so interesting. And it's not that I don't want to do marketing, I just never felt the need to do it. So my first client, my first like major clients, came from the book club. One of the girls in the book club that I have was like oh, it'd be great. Like I work for this corporation, I would love for you to speak. Through that talk came a client, through that client came other clients, and it kind of just became like a referral of people, you know, telling the other person hey, like this is someone who's been helping me navigate through X, y and Z. So that's how the like that was one stream of clients that came to me.
Tannaz:And when I started the podcast, I started an Instagram page and I would just share, I would like. Whatever I would read I would. And if you go back to my old posts, you'll see like the quality of the posts were so different and I would just I'm a reader, so I would like create, write, like written posts and fast forward like a couple of years. One day I just had this like intuition. I was like I need to like connect with more women. So I went on like meetup and I found like the first meetup group for women and I went there and I connected with the one of the wonderful, wonderful woman who was there. She was the leader. We had a conversation and she was like I've been wanting to do a retreat. I was like, oh my God, I would love to do a retreat with you. That's how the retreat came.
Tannaz:And then, while we were preparing for the retreat, one of my co-facilitators said it's time for you to do videos. It's like if you watch my first video, you will laugh, because I was so stressed. I was like holding my hands and I had to like re-record a million times. But it's like people came to me and said why don't we do this, why don't we do that? And I started, like you know, with my videos and then started growing a community on social media and now there's like some clients that come through there and then some through referrals, but it was just suggestions by others that I didn't just see as a coincidence. I was like this is how you know God speaks to us light source creation. However, whatever you want to phrase it, my job is to just show up and to take inspired action. So that's how the marketing worked.
Yuli:That's amazing. Well, thank you so much for sharing. I think it's just so inspiring for many people. But I think what is wonderful in your story that you know you heard some of those things, you heard the signs and you didn't just well, suddenly you actually went and did some actionable steps with it, right, which I think a lot of people are missing sometimes, and when they try to manifest and they get the sign, but then the self-doubt kicks in, right, just like with your video story. I'm sure, like for most people, when someone tells you you should just go do a videos, first reaction would be, if you're not used to that, right, you would cringe Like no, absolutely not. Like, I'm not good at this, I don't like myself on camera, this is going to be so stressful, I don't have time. I mean, there's so many excuses, right, but you actually stuck with it and not only recorded million times but had the courage to upload it on YouTube. So tell us about that.
Tannaz:Oh yeah, oh yeah. I want to really normalize what you said because you know I've been recording since 2017 and I think it's only the past maybe couple of months that I've become comfortable with the sound of my own voice. So it took a long time to get to a place where because usually when you hear yourself, you're like, why do I sound like that? And I'm currently completing my master's in counseling, psychotherapy and my teacher is giving me this feedback of you have such a therapeutic voice like it's so calming. Only now am I becoming comfortable. So it's okay if you're not comfortable with that which you're uncomfortable overnight. Sometimes it takes up many, many, many years, but it's just still showing up and doing it and, honestly, imposter syndrome is real.
Tannaz:I had so much fear of judgment because in my community you know you're either a lawyer, a doctor or an engineer and these are really the only respectable quote, unquote respectable fields that you're in. So for me to say I'm not going to continue working in the legal industry, my parents were shooketh. They were like, did you just study for like seven, eight years to say, no, I'm doing a U-turn, what are we going to do? Like, at first, my parents thought this was a joke, this was a hobby. So I really not only was I like what am I doing? But I was like I don't want to embarrass my family's name, I don't want to embarrass my parents, I don't want all their sacrifice to go. I had like guilt. So it was a lot of guilt, there was a lot of fear, but I just kept remembering that, like you know, no one's journey was really smooth, Like Dr Nguyen's journey wasn't smooth. Louise Hay's journey wasn't smooth.
Tannaz:This is just part of it, and part of it also was I started studying Kabbalah, and part of the teachings of Kabbalah is everything comes from the light and you chose this life. So that was also a very empowering thought for me personally of I chose it. I'm here, I have to show up, I have to honor what is exciting me, and if all these opportunities are showing up, it's not a coincidence. It's coming from the light as proof of I'm on the right path. So suck it up. It's not about you, I kept telling me. It's not about you. It's about the change that your work will do. It's about bigger than you. Don't let the ego make you think. It's all about you. So I had to keep reminding myself of that over and over and over again.
Yuli:Wow, this resonates so much and, first of all, thank you again for sharing so openly. Well, just, you know, to touch back on the voice idea, like I so agree, like we're all so self-critical ourselves, and it definitely resonates with me. I think, just I was listening to my last recording of this podcast and it's been almost two years of recording and for the first time in my life I said, oh, wow, actually I sound good. Finally, because before I thought I would be too slow, because you know, a lot of people like people are impatient these days and I just don't always like have my thoughts together because I record just organically, right, so I don't have all my key points and sometimes I go long into some topics and it would create some insecurities. But then I was talking to an amazing psychic and she said that my voice is actually one of my healing tools and one of my power tools. And I said, wait a second, my voice, this thing that I think, is like so imperfect that needs to work on, and it totally changed my perspective. So it took, like for me as well, almost two years to get to this place. And then another thing you mentioned this idea of family expectations right and our backgrounds, and I mean again, it resonates so much and I know so many people that get into the holistic, healing, coaching, spiritual teaching place. A lot of them come from very, very different background and we see more of that even these days.
Yuli:It's becoming more of a still not a legitimate path, but we're getting there, a more acceptable path right for people. I'm just seeing it. It's such a huge I call it trend, but it's really. It really is because people just realize, oh, you can also do this right. There's just so many great role models and examples now and you being one of them.
Yuli:So I think it's just such an important conversation and I'm grateful for people like yourself who you know tip your toes in the corporate legal world and you were confident enough to say no to all of that with all the perks and benefits, and you know the material gains that you could have had and really dedicate yourself to the path. It requires just such courage because it's so often misunderstood, undervalued by society, by our own parents, and it just takes so much like inner strength to know that this is your path. And I agree just knowing, connecting to the spiritual world and realizing this is the path your soul chose for yourself, or your higher self chose it just. It makes everything easier, but it's still not easy enough to operate in our treaty world right that leads by those rules and those expectations and labels.
Tannaz:Yeah, a hundred percent. I mean I guess you were sharing that it's all these like memories come back of, like you know, even friends' judgments of, like what's wrong with her? Like why is she such a hippie? Like hippie is the word right. Who is such a hippie now? What's wrong with her? Why isn't she drinking anymore? Why isn't she wearing, like you know, designer clothes anymore?
Tannaz:Like it's a shift in identity and I think people who've been with us, the older versions of us, it's hard for them to also grieve that version, and so we kind of need to create space for people you know to see this version and to grieve the old version.
Tannaz:So we've got to be compassionate with them as well.
Tannaz:But it really is a process and just again, like when a challenge comes up, it's easier to say I'm going to go back to what is easy, what is comfortable, what is familiar, what is quote, unquote secure, and saying you know, life is so short to live life without this fire within me.
Tannaz:When I was in Southeast Asia, I would have sometimes sessions at 4 am and 3 am because of time difference, and there was never a moment that I was sad about getting up, even though I love to sleep. I was so excited and I was just like you know what this is, what life is about. It's being excited about the work that you do and that excitement helps propel you through the challenges that you do and that excitement helps propel you through the challenges that are inevitable. They will show up in any life and in any career. But I think that passion and that excitement, and just that belief that it's about something bigger than me, really has helped me not go back to my people-pleasing tendencies when it comes to my family or change who I really am, or mask or hide parts of myself to fit into places where I used to, you know, be in the past.
Yuli:How does your family accept it? Now that you're more established, I mean you're booked with clients there's a book coming up that we haven't mentioned yet. I mean it seems like you really, you know, grounded yourself in this as a career, right. Did that change anything in your immediate relationship with friends and family, I think with friends.
Tannaz:definitely over the years With my family it was a little bit harder, particularly with my father. Like I remember I first wrote a book on children it was a children's spiritual book and he was like that's so cute, like it was for him. I was like, oh, it's such a cute thing. You just said Okay, but like that's a hobby. And then I like partook in this Guinness World Record book project. Again it was like, oh, okay, project. Again it was like oh, okay, interesting. And then this is the third book. And now I think it's again. And I understand.
Tannaz:You know parents have expectations and you know they. They, as Eckhart Tolle says, they live their, their dreams through us and it's never from a place of ill intent, it's I want the best for you and that's's their perception of best. So, yeah, definitely. I thought. When my father came around, I was like, okay, the job's done, cause my mom, she's always been, she was the spiritual one. So she was all like, oh, I love that you're doing this, but I'm still worried for you. And now she's like, you know, now that I have a team and everything, she's like okay, she's like you. Like when I first started building my team, she's like wow, you have a team. I was like, yeah, she's like okay, now I'm not worried anymore For her. That was her perception of success and you know they came around with time but I, you know I didn't try to fight them or say like you have to see me where I am. I kind of understood it and I think just not finding them created space for that new vision of me to come to life.
Yuli:That's beautiful. Well, thank you for sharing this personal story. I intentionally asked you because I just feel like there's so many listeners that can resonate with all of this, everything that we're discussing. Really, I think there's not one person who is in this holistic healing space that has never been questioned by society, whether it's their immediate family or society in general, and I think it's one of the most important topics when we think about empowerment of the holistic community. I think society acceptance, I would say, would be a number one on that list. So the more we can talk about it. I always create space for that, and thank you for bringing it up because it wasn't actually on the agenda. Well, nothing was an agenda, so we knew something is going to come through, but I think this one is a really strong one, and then so, thank you for being an advocate and sharing your story.
Yuli:I think I also wanted to come back to something that we mentioned in the very beginning and this idea of the feminine and masculine energy, and you strike me as somebody so balanced right, you have a team, you're running a business, you're fully booked me as somebody so balanced right, you have a team, you're running a business, you're fully booked. You're this successful entrepreneur, right? Another word that people a lot of times avoid in this space. Right, don't see themselves as entrepreneurs or business owners, but you are. But yet you balance this calm, collected, deep, spiritual side. And I think it's another topic that I love to discuss because, as somebody who is also kind of dancing between those two worlds and really trying to find a balance, I mean, we're so many different things right Every day, we're like so many different hats, and I'm curious to hear your perspective on that.
Tannaz:Yeah, thank you for sharing and for bringing this topic up. So I think there's a lot of content out there on women should only be in their feminine and men should only be in their masculine. And you know, for me, in my opinion, that creates an unhealthy experience of self. And if we want to look into the feminine and masculine energy, we want to go to the root of it. You know we come to yin and yang energy and the whole point of the yin and yang is there are two parts of one whole. It's creating that balance.
Tannaz:When we're too much into our masculine energy, I think that's when we lead to burnout. Too much into our masculine energy, I think that's when we lead to burnout. And when we're too much in our feminine energy, I think sometimes we lack the follow through to bring the vision to life. And so for me, it's always when I first became familiar with these two topics, it was I had to do a lot. I'm a very like a nerd at heart, so I'm always like studying and I love to understand that, similar to what you were saying, like just like resonating more with science-backed topics and so really diving into.
Tannaz:Okay, what's the feminine energy about? The feminine energy is about intuition, it's about flow, it's about surrender. It's the playfulness yes, what's the masculine energy about? It's all about drive. It's about taking inspired action. It's about discipline. Too much of one not great. Too much of discipline is very rigid. What about soft discipline? And that's the topic of my actually next book is how can we create, cultivate the energy of soft discipline, meaning I show up, but with grace. I show up, I fall down, but instead of being self-critical, I understand that this is part of the journey and I get up and I say I'm going to try again. More compassion, more self-forgiveness. So it's not that we're not going to just pick one, we're going to integrate the two.
Tannaz:And I see this Sometimes I see someone too much in their feminine. How do I know? They're too much in their feminine and it's an underdeveloped masculine. They have a million and one beautiful ideas, but they just keep it at that level, at that realm. It's like it comes. So I always say like, if we're using our seven chakras, the vision comes through the crown. You see it through your eyes, you speak about it, you feel it and when we get to the, you know the belly part. That's the part, that's the yang energy of like activating it, action, action. It kind of gets stuck there and they don't allow that vision to be birthed through them.
Tannaz:With a little bit of drive, with a little bit of discipline, kind of cultivating those traits, we can bring it into the realm. We can use our creative force and we can ground with it on this earth and we can become that medium. So what I teach my clients all the time is don't look over one thing. You can take that flowy energy, you can take that intuition into the most male-oriented industries and you can take that discipline into the most fluid and creative industries. You get to choose and it has to be a play that feels a dance, that feels grounded to you, ease to you. You don't need to go through life in a fight or flight mode. We can choose better for ourselves. We need to change. This narrative of success is hard, it's challenging, but with the right tools we can navigate through it with more ease and grace. That ease and grace, it's actually my wife. I use her name. Ease and grace it's my favorite two words. How can we live life through ease and grace? So that's the balancing of the two.
Yuli:That's so beautiful. I was just taking mental notes as you were speaking because I love this idea of birthing things and the way you describe it with the energy centers. It's just such a beautiful visual and this showing up with grace is, you know, I can see it becoming my little mantra of my altar. It just is really, really beautifully put. I am excited for your book and dive deep into it Because, I mean, the subject of discipline is actually a very interesting one for me as well.
Yuli:I just feel like my experience with discipline and it's one of my strongest qualities and that sometimes, you know, causes me to burn out. But you know, my discipline comes from my background right, growing up in the communist Russia, serving in the military at some point of my life I mean, you name it there's just a lot of my personal training, right as a young adult, as a child, was rooted in discipline and that was the only way to succeed or to even survive. Right, forget succeed. It wasn't back then, it wasn't part of the vocabulary, it was more of a survival mode and the only way to survive was through discipline. And I really mastered that right, which is a great asset in business but creates a very challenging life often, so I really this idea of soft discipline really resonates with me, as you can imagine.
Tannaz:No, thank you for sharing that and you know, again, eastern communities and you know the backgrounds for me as well discipline oof that had a negative connotation to it, almost of like it's so rigid, rigid it's so strict and a very disciplined father. So I really had to learn, because that that was at the beginning of my journey as well. Extremely like so zero to 100, so quick, always going, going, going, going, going, until I developed an autoimmune disease and I was like, okay, started doing the books. I was like too much, too much cortisol, too much fight or flight. Where are you racing? To Be a little bit softer with yourself.
Tannaz:It's not because I was trained as a child to focus on the destination and I had to retrain and unlearn that. It's not at all about the destination, it's about the journey. Are you enjoying the process of getting there? And so if I'm doing something and I notice it now too I put reminders around everywhere, like these little notes and post-itsits, and I put these messages for myself If I notice that I'm feeling really tense doing something, pause. How can we bring more joy into this? How can we bring more playful energy into this? How can we bring more softness into this? Because if you're going to get through, like if I'm going to create this product or create whatever it is that I'm creating with the energy of. I need to get through this. This needs to be done that your energy gets stuck to the byproduct. That's not the energy you want to put out there. You want to put the energy of she enjoyed doing it. I can tell that it's a soft energy, it's a light energy, so similar to what you were sharing a lot of.
Tannaz:I had to do a lot of unlearning around destination versus journey and retrain myself to enjoy the journey, and I want to give this tip because it's such a practical tip but one of the easiest in my opinion. One of the easiest ways to do that, but most challenging as well. It turns easy. It starts as challenging is through driving. Can you enjoy the traffic? Can you enjoy driving slow within the speed limit without going like this? And eventually you'll get to a point where, like me, I got pulled over by the cops in Japan because I was driving too slow and I called my husband and he's like I don't understand how we're married because he always gets pulled over for driving too fast. But traffic is a great way to work on that.
Yuli:Amazing. I love that story so much. But you mentioned also another topic before that I would love to just explore a little more with you, because for me it's another big and fascinating one, and it's this idea of taking an inspired action. Right, and I think this is from working in this holistic community for a few years now. This, I would say, say would be the common thread among a lot of people that have different blocks and challenges in growing their business. Right, they, like you, said exactly that example.
Yuli:They get all those beautiful ideas yeah, I want to do a retreat, so I want to do this practice, I want to do this practice and then they find themselves like a year later okay, none of this kind of came through and life happened. And you know, we all busy these days, no matter which part of the world you live in, all of us kind of like multitask. We have all those different lives and obligations and you just go through this day-to-day stuff and you forget your big inspirations that come through. You don't forget them, but you don't know always what does the inspired action look like?
Tannaz:Yeah, honestly, collaboration For me it's been collaboration it's when a vision comes through and if I feel I don't have not that I don't have the drive, but I need help, we all need help I reach out to someone that I know has shared visions, similar visions, and I pitch it. I'm like do you want to do this together? Visions and I pitch it. I'm like do you want to do this together and just bringing someone else's energy into it? A, accountability and B two insights are more powerful than one in my opinion, and so a lot of the things that I took inspired action on were as a result of collaboration.
Tannaz:My first retreat again, it was a collaboration like coaching programs, collaboration so sometimes we need to come partner up with someone else and birth it together as a team. And repetition, like neuroplasticity, repetition helps us build new neural pathways. So as you use, you know the beauty of collaboration to build that pathway of taking action. It becomes easier to take action as a solo person later on. But I would say that I would say reach out to people who are doing similar things and hold each other accountable and rise together, and then you'll be getting into the habit of doing it on your own.
Yuli:This is such a beautiful and profound advice, thank you. Thank you for articulating it so well. I mean, you've just been a really wealth of inspiration. I'm just so grateful to have your very balanced feminine and masculine energy on this podcast, and I can't believe we're running out of time and I feel like we definitely have room for part two, hopefully one day. And I just really wanted to thank you for, you know, touching on so many big and deep subjects in such a short period of time and doing it so eloquently. So you've been an amazing partner to this conversation already. Thank you.
Tannaz:Thank you, yuli, for creating the space. I love the podcast. I love you. Know the business side of it is usually the side that is kind of maybe scares people off and bringing different perspectives into it and you know, I hope your audience is appreciative of that because that's so amazing and it's so powerful with the work that you do. So thank you for creating the space and I hope this served, you know, the person who needed to hear it.
Yuli:So thank you Absolutely, I have no doubt, and thank you again for your kind words and for all those vulnerable shares and being here with us. Thank you.