Two Years In: The Season of Initiation

The journey of finding your authentic voice can be deeply transformative—not just for you, but for everyone your work touches. In this two-year anniversary episode of The Heallist Podcast, Yuli reflects on how an unscripted, channeled experiment evolved into over fifty episodes of growth, healing, and powerful community connection. Through this journey, she’s discovered that true expansion often requires stepping beyond comfort zones and embracing unexpected forms of leadership.

Today, many healers are feeling a call into greater visibility—mentoring others, shaping collective conversations, and releasing limiting narratives around humility and self-promotion. While this evolution can feel vulnerable, it is part of stepping fully into one’s purpose.

In this episode, Yuli shares exciting updates, including the launch of 1:1 mentorships, the upcoming Healers Retreat at Menla, and reflections on how emerging technologies like AI can be used in service of holistic work. Her central message is clear: when healers hold back their voices, the world loses something vital. Your voice is medicine—and now is the time to share it.

Check out Heallist.com for digital tools created just for holistic healers.

Chapters

• 0:00 Two-Year Anniversary Reflections
• 4:52 Finding My Voice Through Podcasting
• 11:47 Being Initiated into a New Role
• 20:00 New Mentorship Services for Healers
• 28:49 The Healers Retreat at Menla
• 32:21 Embracing AI in the Holistic World
• 39:07 Gratitude and Looking Forward

Transcript

Yuli: 0:04

Welcome to the Healist Podcast, where we inspire and guide healers through business expansion. We give voice to incredibly abundant healers to share their stories. We dive into the quantum field to unlock the energies of conscious creation. We also develop digital tools to help you grow, which you can find on healistcom. I'm your host, yuli, and I'm grateful you chose to join this space. Now let's go deep. Hello, my dear friends, and welcome to this very special two-year anniversary of the Healist Podcast episode, and I just can't believe we're here and it's been two incredible years with more than 50 episodes, incredible guests that I had a chance to bring to the space and really go deep on different topics. So thank you for everyone who listens.

Yuli: 1:00

It's hard sometimes in the podcast space because you don't have as much connection with the audience as you have in other mediums and social media and you can feel lonely. You can feel like you're talking to an empty room. But I found this to be the most incredible creative outlet for me and I actually love this empty room idea because it really releases all kinds of fears and blocks and expectations and insecurities and allows me to just speak to you from my heart and the channel which I mostly. That's what I do. Those of you who listen to our episodes you know that I like to do it completely improvised and completely channeled. It's never prepared, there's never questions, and I like to learn as much as I can about my guest in advance, but really allow this room for exploration and see where conversation takes us. And it's been so incredible just to watch how different topics and subjects came up without me even ever thinking that the episode is going to go in that direction and just allowing that flow and really allowing for both of us to channel some of those ideas and topics. So I'm just I'm excited.

Yuli: 2:21

And it's hard because I think sometimes, you know, we expect those things, we start those projects and I really started it and as an experiment to see if I would even like it and what the process will be like. I didn't want it to become one of those burdens, one of those things on my to-do list, right, that I know is good for the business and I know it's good for me to do. But it's another thing and I really, really I promised to myself I'm going to keep doing it as long as I feel this passion and this creative flow, and I'm not going to lie. There've been moments throughout those two years that I questioned whether it's something that I should be continuing investing my time in, and there's other things I could be doing, and you know as much as those conversations are short. It takes up your energy, the preparation, the guest coordination, and you know the whole process, even with assistance of other amazing people on my team. But and sometimes it's hard to find the value right, especially in something like a podcast what does it do for the Healers business in my case? What does it do for me? What value it brings to others? And again, with a podcast, especially something like this, that is not commercialized right, it's sometimes hard to find to justify the time investment and the energy investment, and so I'm not going to lie. There was moments during those two years that you know I look at the, the investment, and then I look back at the some of the metrics around it, because that's our only way sometimes to measure. I think that's the hard part sometimes about the business we have to use those metrics to evaluate something. But I have to say I'm giving myself permission to continue with this creative outlet, even though it's really hard right now to attach any business metrics to this venture and truly measure the impact. What drives me is to have occasional conversation with one of my listeners that they mentioned one of the episodes or something that was so, on time and so on, point for them to hear at this specific moment, and that's what keeps me going, and it can be one or two of those conversations and that's enough to justify all of this. So I think what's one of the one of those ventures that I'm going to continue doing, maybe despite any kind of logical business mind, just because I know there's a higher purpose to it.

Yuli: 4:59

I know I didn't start it for nothing, started for nothing and I know it was my moment to find my voice. The two years ago I remember it so vividly I came back from an incredible ceremony with a shamanic practitioner and something. It was really not the most pleasant healing experience I've had, really not the most pleasant healing experience I've had, let me tell you that. But something opened up and I could just feel it and literally two days later I recorded the first episode and I just knew I found my voice and even though the podcast idea was in my head for a few months, if not for a couple of years, it never came out until that very moment.

Yuli: 5:47

I needed to go through that healing process. I needed to unblock something in myself to be able to find my voice and it wasn't just in that moment. And continuing to refine my voice for the next two years, right, and I probably I can't listen to my very first episodes because they're probably kind of still very rusty and I didn't have the format still figured out. But I just knew it's something I had to plunge into, I had to pursue and see where it takes me. And even though it's going to be this kind of public process of self-refinement, I knew it was the only way to do it. It's not something you can practice on your own, privately, right, record a few episodes and wait and wait until there's a perfect one and then release it. The only way to do those projects is just let go of all self-consciousness, of all the blocks and insecurities, and just let it be, let it be in the public eye and heal through that process. So that's what I've been doing.

Yuli: 6:56

For me it's literally been this vocal experiment and finding my voice and finding my stage, even though often it feels lonely and there's no one around me when I record those things and, by the way again. I never prepare them, I just let it flow, I get in my zone, I get in my flow state and then just channel through, like I'm doing right now. And I think the process itself and this is what I'm learning through this experience that just the process of allowing yourself to speak your mind without knowing what the next word is going to be it is so empowering and I feel like we're not doing enough of that, especially we women not to stereotype anyone, but I think women or healers or anyone who's been in any audiences that feel like they've been, you know, maybe silenced for some time or any individual right that had a hard time finding their voice. We get into that place where we feel like everything that we put out has to be extremely thought through and calculated, because maybe in the past when we said things, they were misinterpreted or somehow misunderstood. So we put this extra pressure on ourselves to overanalyze everything.

Yuli: 8:22

Right, and what I'm doing through this process, I'm allowing myself to channel what comes through in the rawest form and with the minimum of editing and I'm doing it purposely, by the way, just vocally and through audio only, because I feel like when you add the image element, this is where it adds another layer of pressure and maybe one day, one day, I'll be ready to work on both at the same time. But right now it feels right to just channel through the vocal channel, to just channel through the vocal channel, even though there's a lot of pressure out there to have a video format, because this is where podcasting is going. Everyone is putting together this nice, professional looking video talk shows right, and that's been incredible to watch this industry. But it also comes with more pressure and I'm giving myself permission not to step into that place right now, and even though it's very tempting and I know it's going to raise the viewership and I know it's going to unlock the whole new audience for us and I know a lot of people love watching those conversations and interviews, lot of people love watching those conversations and interviews but for me, right now, exploring the audio part feels right. It feels enough, there's still enough to unlock and unpack in this kind of exercise of finding your raw voice that is completely, you know, uncommercialized, unfiltered, unpackaged with anything.

Yuli: 10:10

So thank you for being part of this experiment. That was my very long gratitude talk to really thank anyone who will listen to even a glimpse of one of our episodes, because you were part of this healing journey and you allowed by being there, you created a space for me to share parts of me, allowed all of our guests to share part of themselves and create what I create. What I try to create in every conversation is very authentic and raw and deep conversation about topics that might be overlooked or we might not be exploring too deep and on other mediums, and I think they're important. So that's what I'm here for and that's what I'm going to be continuing doing, and what I wanted to bring up in this very special episode is the fact that also, a lot of us are being initiated these days and, just like me, I've been initiated into this podcast host role, which I didn't dream for myself even a few years ago. It was never on my radar, though. It was never on my radar, but I was clearly. There's clear signs and clear directions to pursue this, and now, two years later, I'm being initiated into my next role and taking even to bigger and more expensive places of perhaps influence or mentorship.

Yuli: 11:46

As I like to think about it, and I know that a lot of people around me and what I'm seeing, especially anyone in the holistic space, anyone in the wellness and spirituality. A lot of us are going through turmoil and reorg internal, external reorg where we're really asked to step up our game, and for everyone it might look in different shape and form. For me, healist is my tool of transformation, even though it's a company that builds tools for other healers. But, as the way universe works, it is my personal tool of transformation, even though it's a company that built tools for other healers. But, as the way universe works, it is my personal tool of transformation and the work I've been doing while building this company, the self-growth and self-realization work it's just been nothing that I've ever experienced in my entire life. So, again, this podcast is part of it and I'm being asked to step up into a new role now, going forward into this role of a mentor to healers and really bring even more clearly some of my business and technical and marketing skills to the table in a way that really allows healers to access some of this knowledge that I was really fortunate to gain through my building ventures and creating companies. So, while in the past I was more of behind the scenes building the product and, you know, building this community, I'm asked to step into a role that I'm actually directly sharing this knowledge more proactively.

Yuli: 13:44

And again, it's not something that has been planned. It was never part of the plan. I just remember when I was just thinking about this business, I always said it was not about me. I'm just here to serve the healers, I'm just here to build the tools and everything is going to just work out fine.

Yuli: 14:03

And it's funny sometimes, looking back and here we are and I'm getting now much clearer messages that are urging me to step up and get out of my you know, my own shadows and from behind the scenes of this business and really figure out a way to do it that is still heart centered, still comes from a place of service, to do it that is still heart-centered, still comes from a place of service and not from a place of this old idea of leadership that was largely driven by ego, right? So I think that that's really my next lesson Can I lead from the heart and still find a way to put myself out there as a leader, as a mentor, and not just feel good about it, but truly, truly do it from a place of service and keep my ego in check and also get rid of some of the insecurities and some of those like residual locks that are still sitting there and are still kind of, you know, doubting and questioning and and the self-conscious voices that I think many of us have in our heads right, I try to self sabotage anytime we step out of our comfort zone. And listen, I've been stepping out of my comfort zone my entire life, so I'm very comfortable no pun intended stepping out of my comfort zone. But this one is different, it feels different because it's really I know everyone keeps saying it's another level, we're moving into a new dimension and there's all of that talk and it's very true, but I can feel it with every cell in my body that this is another dimension. This is not about the way we used to do things in the past. This is not about kind of the old way of doing business of leading people, of mentoring people, of the old way of doing business of leading people, of mentoring people. This is like a whole new layer or the whole new dimension of mentorship. That is a lot of. It is energetic, a lot of it is literally holding space for healers and being there actively, not just behind the scenes, not just somebody who's building tools and support somebody who's more actively hold space for healers, and that's something, again, I did not see coming. I did not. It wasn't part of the business plan, but I'm also trying to well, not trying.

Yuli: 16:48

I'm also extremely grateful to be in this position, to be even this opportunity to be initiated into something like this right. It just feels such a sacred space to be in, right, and I'm just, I'm so honoring this opportunity and the importance of it. So I just wanted to acknowledge that and I know a lot of you that feel maybe in different ways, maybe you initiate it in different ways, but you feel like you've been asked to step up. You've been asked to get outside of your comfort zone and do more of this or that or expand in different directions. I know many of you are going through that right now because it's the times we live in and, as much as it can be overwhelming for many of us and also unsettling, right, because we're losing, all of us are also shedding our old identity, right, and we're being asked to put on this new, maybe more powerful identity, more influential identity.

Yuli: 17:55

I know it can be unsettling, I know it can be confusing, but again, what I'm doing and I suggest maybe this different perspective to some of you who's going through the same thing is again lead with gratitude and and just just acknowledge this very privileged space of being initiated and this is the path that your soul chose for you. And how incredible it is, even though all the hardships and all the everything that comes with expansion right can be painful. Sometimes it's like extending a fabric, stretching a fabric right. So this is how it might feel, like you're being really stretched, but it's also again a really a big privilege to be called to expand in these times, and especially if you're called to lead or influence other people, and if you're a healer, as I like to say, you're influencing a lot of people. You might not call in this way, you might call it just a little practice or something or a gift that you have, but you are influencing, you're impacting a lot of people in ways that you can't even imagine. So, if you're asked to expand your influence, be grateful. You're here to lead this next chapter and the world needs you right now. Okay, so it's not about you, I think reframing also and forgetting some of those uncomfortable moments that you have with yourself during that expansion it's really not about you. It's about serving others and how many others need those services that you provide. Oh, let's take a deep breath. Oh, let's take a deep breath.

Yuli: 19:49

So to share more detail about my personal expansion and to give you a little more color so I mentioned that I'm asked to step up in more of a mentor role. So how does that reflect in the business? Right, because I'm the kind of person when I get those downloads and I get a very clear direction, I'm very action oriented. I have those two sides in me. I have the spiritual guidance and channeling, but I also have a pretty active, actionable side, being like quadruple Scorpio. So I like to act on those things. Because what I find, one thing that really blocks my energy and creates a lot of imbalance for me, is when I get those new directions and I don't act on them, because what happens is that energy becomes kind of boiling inside or stagnant, and it's not good for my body, mind and spirit. So this is something I see a lot as well, a lot of people.

Yuli: 20:59

When they're going through this expansion mode and they get the new direction, the next step is often really challenging, right? Because now you need to figure out how to actually put it in action, even if you know, with every cell of your body, this is what you're supposed to be doing. It's hard sometimes to actually bring things into reality, so I'm fortunate to kind of have that side that often just goes and does what needs to be done. So as soon as I got the direction, I was ready. So we launched recently new services on Healist and I'm going to be offering mentorship with one-on-one mentorship with myself, again bringing all of my business experience into the holistic healing world and working with healers one-on-one in two key areas. One in business strategy coming up with a very quick plan of action and very, again, simple and actionable steps and creating this kind of roadmap for expansion. That is very doable, that is not overwhelming. So that's one type of service really looking at all the areas of the business and learning a little bit about what you do and what the goals are and identifying very quick opportunities to transform and create change very quickly. Okay, I'm very excited to offer that and I can't wait to work with. Actually, today I already got my very first client. This is what happens when you put those things out in the universe that they start and if it's right and if it's all aligned, it starts happening very quickly, so I can't wait to start my first session soon and then another service that I'm going to be offering.

Yuli: 23:00

This is what our extended team is a marketing plan development, and this is something again that came out of working with so many incredible healers and then who really struggling to figure out the marketing game right and then, from different reasons, being, you know, resistant to it, to the whole idea of self-promotion, not knowing which channels to focus on, being overwhelmed by social media, by being seen, by being heard, all of that, and I feel like just spending now quite a few years in the space. I've seen it all and I've heard it all and I have a really good ideas, really good ideas around how we can unblock some of those challenges, but not just unblock them. Actually help you again define some quick ways to make it right for you right and create this marketing plan that is truly yours. It's not something that you know somebody gave you a template for or someone else is doing, to truly understand what your strengths are and what some of the things that you're really not comfortable doing yet, and we don't have to go there, but building something that is true for you and that it feels good. Actually, I think that's the goal, really with those sessions to come out with something that feels so aligned, makes you so passionate and excited about your next chapter that you're actually not seeing as another item on your to-do list. You cannot wait to start it. So that's what we're going to be developing identifying some key formats that work for you in terms of promoting your services, promoting your knowledge and what you do, and helping you being seen and being heard Again, just myself going through this process of launching this podcast, you know, launching this company and stepping more into the stage.

Yuli: 25:03

I would love to help other healers do the same, because one thing that I consistently see in this audience is and you, my dear friends, is this like huge, huge humility, right and huge, like just service oriented personas that are just not comfortable and, you know, feel often shame or guilt around promoting anything they do. And it's just, again, it's so needed these days that it's beyond, it has to go beyond your personal limitations, because the world needs more of this kind of content and these types of voices, your voices and I'll tell you what happens when you don't use your voice and you don't share your knowledge. There are other forces in this world that take up the stage, okay. So, really, when I tell people you need to be more seen, you need to be more heard, this is not about you. This is about the fact that the world needs more of what you are producing in your head, with your hands, whatever you do. But this is what needs to be part of the conversation. Otherwise, the conversation becomes very one-sided and and there's other forces in this world that are very good in that conversation and controlling it and leading it. Okay. So we need you as the leader of this new chapter that we all writing right now. So anything we can do you know myself, we at Healist anything we can do to help you shine, to help you voice what you do and things you stand for, that's what these sessions are meant to do.

Yuli: 27:02

And the more I work with healers, I realized technology alone is just not enough, and that's why we created our masterclasses that run by incredible experts that come every month and teach our incredible community of healers anything from finance to operation and marketing. And then the next step was and the more we did those masterclasses, I realized there is even deeper help that is needed and more personalized and custom help, and this is why I decided to offer these services as a again, as an experiment and as our way to give back to our community, but also truly, truly have this opportunity to work with the 101 and help you get to that next level, right, your next chapter. So that's part of my initiation and it feels good. For a while it was I was a little confused about that part because, again, it wasn't part of the original plan and I wanted to make sure that it aligned still with the Healist mission and doesn't spread me too thin in a way. But I also realized this is part of the work, right, and our work sometimes can look different, it can spread across different formats, it can have different shapes and forms, and not everything has to be measured by business metrics, right. So it just felt something that the world is needed right now, and here I am, and so we're offering that.

Yuli: 28:43

And another thing that I would say one of my biggest initiations probably going to be next month, and I'm really, really looking forward to that but we're hosting, as many of you know, and some of you are coming and joining us we're hosting our very first Healers Retreat in Menla in Catskills, new York Amazing, incredible resort that is owned by the Tibet House USA, that is a Dalai Lama foundation here in America, and it's really a magical place. And the program we put together and everything that comes and everyone who's coming so far and the incredible guides that are we that are gonna be also offering their services and their guidance is it's just, everything is just coming together magically. I can't even explain to you. People that's supposed to be there are just showing up without us even inviting them and it's just. I know it's going to be one of those transformational weekends for everyone involved. So if you're still thinking, if you're listening to it, hopefully early enough to sign up, it's May 16th through 18th. It's a weekend and really it's not one of those retreats that you're coming to rest and relax Sorry, wrong place. It's one of those weekends when you come to truly transform and do some deep work, connect with your peers in a deeper level and also learn new things, uncover new things about yourself as a leader of this new world.

Yuli: 30:24

And we're going to be leading a couple of business workshops as well. And we're going to be leading a couple of business workshops as well. Alistair Gray, who's an incredible international coach, is joining us and he's going to be leading a session on growth and that is part of my initiation as a mentor. I'm actually going to be leading my very first session in something that I call live business healings and it's something that that again was channeled to me in one of my meditations and I cannot wait to actually bring it to reality, as much as it's probably yeah, it's an interesting choice for me to do for the first time in Menla, in the sacred place, and our very first retreat, a healer's retreat. But I'm giving myself permission to again to just channel and go for this raw exploration. But what I'm going to be working with is two or three select practitioners who are going to be doing this live business kind of analysis and business planning with the audience. So we're going to be live workshopping their business plan, their marketing plans and trying to tackle some of the common issues and blocks people are facing, so everyone can kind of learn from that experience.

Yuli: 31:42

So it's going to be very raw and unscripted, as I like to do, and I'm just super excited. I have no idea what's going to come out of those sessions and who are going to be the brave souls that are going to come on stage and share some of the challenges that they're working through and how I can help them, how the audience can help them. But I'm just like I know there'll be some magical moments there. I just trust it. It just it came to me in such a strong shape and form that I know those things I have to trust. So that's how I'm being initiated.

Yuli: 32:18

If any of this resonates, I hope you appreciate this vulnerable share and thank you again for being part of my journey. I think, again, many of us are walking between the worlds these days and that's how I feel walking between this tech world that is also changing at a dramatically high pace and this holistic, healing world that is just opening up and awakening and blossoming in so many incredible ways. So I really have like one fit in each, and so I feel like I have this even more exponential growth when I'm kind of taking those elements from both of those worlds and mixing them together. And I got to tell you as much as the healing and awakening world is evolving, what's happening in the technology world is even maybe more fascinating, because everything that we're going through with AI and I know for some of you it might be a triggering subject or something that you don't want to be part of. You have some legitimate concerns about. But I got to tell you, more and more in the last year or so, I've been embracing AI and experimenting with a lot of some of those new tools and technologies that are out there, and it's just incredible to see the transformative moments it creates and HOOD adds another layer to our human intelligence, if used correctly, like any tool.

Yuli: 34:01

And you know, I attended a couple of weeks ago a launch of Deepak Chopra's AI twin in New York City, which was such an incredible experience. And, first of all, dr Chopra is one of the really most incredible leaders in the space and, not to mention, at his 78 years old, he's innovating and pioneering the space with his very own AI twin. And what he did, what it means basically, for those of you who are wondering, he put his entire body of work and about close to a hundred books that he's written and articles and publications and thousands of videos that he recorded. He put it all into this large database right and then basically put AI layer on top of it that is able to search for this entire content and find the right answers to your questions. So when you come on to Deepak Chopraai, you are able to ask a question and receive a really precise, deep, incredible answer, and not just read it, but also listen to it in the voice of Deepak Chopra and on top of that, he can answer that in five different languages, which is also translated by AI.

Yuli: 35:33

So this is, I think, a really one incredible example of a use case when AI is used right and for the benefit of humanity, just allowing access in people in so many countries and maybe with limited access to holistic care or spiritual teachings, right, allowing them access to this wisdom. I think that's what really AI is all about and I'm really excited to see where that evolves. And I was excited to see a pioneer and leader like Dr Chopra stepping into the space and showing us the way and it's just. I think it gives me hope that maybe that will help for a lot of people in this holistic and wellness space to embrace it again for in a way that really helps humanity and I know it will, I know it can and it's already helping. But I think we need to also release some of our blocks and resistances around it and fears I think a lot of it is fears. I couldn't say it better than Dr Chopra himself, that is just another layer that enhances the human intelligence.

Yuli: 36:54

I think anyone who fears that AI is going to take over and has even any chance in competition with our own consciousness as just you know maybe not seeing the full picture and maybe didn't have direct experience with AI in the way some of us have but it also pushes us as humans to evolve as species, right, and realize that we're not. We're way more than this kind of a machine or brain machine, right, that memorizes facts and spits out information. We're way more than that, and you know, just realizing that you can outsource a lot of those tasks to those machines now, so our mind can evolve even more, and I think it actually allows us an opportunity to go deeper into dimensions that we weren't able to go because our minds were just so busy processing all of this information and analyzing. So if you can just outsource that task, you're actually able to release your mind from those everyday tasks and focus on the next evolution and what that's going to look like. And this is what brings us to quantum physics and consciousness, this new level of consciousness where we're able to see different dimensions of time and space, and that's what excites me about AI. This is really like our assistant that again takes away the burden of a lot of this busy life that we've created to ourselves. So the busy life can be outsourced, actually, and it's really incredible times if you allow it to right. But you have to be open and you have to allow it to do so and then it can create magic for you.

Yuli: 38:56

And, on a practical level, I can't wait to bring some of those tools to our platform, to Healist, and share it with you, especially some of the easier tools that can really really make a big difference in your everyday. I can't share much yet, but it's coming and we're really deep in analyzing and speccing out what that's going to look like for HealLess. So we'll be releasing some new exciting tools in the next, in the coming months, and I just again, I think I can't wait for that new phase as well for HealLess. And, like again, everything has its space and time and it's really amazing to see the timing of some of those new releases that you know we've been a new AI advancements that are happening literally every month, and how we are now able to evolve with them, because we had this opportunity to build a foundation, to build a basis now to start truly innovating and showing you the way how some of those tools can truly, truly make your life easier and have you focus on what you do best, which is healing.

Yuli: 40:10

So, without my friends, I would love to wrap this celebratory two-year episode that again, thank you for listening and thank you for creating the space for me to share my thoughts, my insights. I have lots of love and gratitude for all of you, especially those who listened up until this point. Thanks again for holding space and I cannot wait to continue with some other amazing speakers in the coming weeks and months. Thank you.