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Immigration Myths and Realities
Al Neely and Tina Jenkins explore how immigration discourse disproportionately focuses on Latino immigrants while ignoring significant migration from countries like China and India, and how fear-based policies threaten America's economic stability.
• Media coverage of immigration overwhelmingly focuses on Hispanic immigrants crossing the Mexican border
• Chinese immigration and property purchases receive different political framing and treatment
• Mass deportation would severely impact housing, healthcare, agriculture, and construction sectors
• Only 1-3% of undocumented immigrants are criminals, despite political rhetoric painting them as threats
• Legal immigration pathways are prohibitively complex, expensive, and time-consuming
• Fear-based campaign tactics exploit racial and economic anxieties to gain political support
• Indiscriminate detention methods have resulted in American citizens being detained simply for speaking Spanish
• Different protest approaches among minority communities reflect varying relationships with American identity
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All right, welcome to Listen Up. I'm Al Neely. We have Tina Jenkins today and we're going to ask that you hit the subscribe button Subscribe before we get started, and I'm going to ask you again in the middle and towards the end. So please subscribe Today, tina, we want to talk about immigration and deportation. You delved into it and you saw that most of the information that you were finding was about the Latino migration and deportation.
Speaker 2:Is that correct?
Speaker 1:Yes, yes, and you had a theory. As was it a theory or was it based on facts? So tell us why you feel like it is. Most of the focus is on that.
Speaker 2:So it's a little bit of both. And you see, whenever you heard on the campaign trail, mass deportation, mass deportation, it was really all about. You always got the feeling it was all about the Hispanics being deported back. They were the main illegal immigrants Hispanics being deported back. They were the main illegal immigrants.
Speaker 2:I don't ever recall any news articles or news reports and I was constantly on the news more than I should have been. I never saw once talking about Chinese immigration. I never once heard about Indian immigration or other parts of the Asian immigration that was taking place. Now, what you did hear about the Chinese was hey, we need to make sure that they don't buy a property, because there was a huge Chinese immigration influx that was coming in and they were buying property. And then you saw different states, even our state, that said you're not allowed to buy a certain amount of property. And then you saw different states, even our state, that said you're not allowed to buy, you know, certain amount of property. Florida was like that.
Speaker 2:And so when you hear about mass deportation, you automatically associate it with Hispanics. And but that's not necessarily true. I think I just saw an article today that talked about the rise in Chinese influx over the border, not airplane over the border, over in California and in Texas. No one's really talking about that. When you hear about it, you always hear about it in reference to Hispanics and crossing over the Mexican border. And in my opinion, you see, you know we're in the middle of the beginning of a trade war which, you know, in all seriousness, he's the one that's causing it.
Speaker 1:When you say he, you mean Donald Trump.
Speaker 2:He's the one that's causing it, because he brought to the table the trade agreement that we have now, or that we did.
Speaker 1:There was a previous one.
Speaker 2:He signed it.
Speaker 1:The previous one was by other presidents, correct, and he's always wanting to do something where it says Donald Trump did this. So basically, minor changes to the same trade agreement. He said Donald Trump did it.
Speaker 2:Exactly Now it was like it's a horrible trade agreement. And so now he's trying to strong arm Mexico and saying, hey, if you do this and make sure that you don't allow so many migrants or illegals to come over, then I won't put these heavy tariffs on you. And of course Mexico is like, okay, I'll see you that. And then some I see him in his administration using mass deportation and immigration as, or illegal immigrants as a way to try to figure out how to make his tariffs a thing, because the end game for his tariffs that I'm not sure I haven't done enough study like what would he profit off of that? Because if you think about it, if he, if he really does go through all the mass deportation, he deports millions of people.
Speaker 2:That affects your economy, that affects your workforce, that affects your um. It. It has, it has a rippling effect throughout people's just everyday lives. Housing would be affected, healthcare would be affected, because a lot of the immigrants that are here, they're the ones that's taking care of the elderly, that's doing the home healthcare, they're the ones that's out there, you know, picking strawberries and oranges off the trees. You don't see many folks looking like you and I that's out there doing those kind of jobs. You don't see a bunch. You do have, you know, a variety of people who are doing construction, but the mass majority of those who are up there on the roofs and putting roofs together and framing houses and putting in windows, those are a lot of people who are immigrants. They're Hispanic immigrants, and so it's just like, if you take them out of the equation, what are you going to have as far as a country?
Speaker 1:Yeah. So I'm going to give you an opposing opinion in just a second. But what I want to answer for you is you's like, what is the end game for him? Okay, based on what I've known from following him for decades, um, he doesn't know what he's doing, so he doesn't, he doesn't, he doesn't have a plan, so it's all impulsive, and then everything else is transactional. So the transactional part is what you just talked about. The transactional part is what you just talked about. The part about why was he going to do it to terrorists is because he doesn't understand the whole process or repercussions of the tariffs. So if you put those tariffs in place, like right now, if he makes all the cuts to the economy that he's talking about right now, we are $18 trillion in debt. If he puts all the tariffs in place and he continues with the cuts, we're going to be at $ like three trillion dollars in debt. So that alone tells you that he doesn't know what he's doing Right. So it's going to be 10 times worse.
Speaker 2:Right, right.
Speaker 1:So, um then, who's left to pay for it? The taxpayers, right. Um then, who's left to pay for it? The taxpayers, right. And we're talking about the middle class, because he's not going to have his buddies pay for it, he's already making tax breaks for them. So I don't want to get off on a tangent, but that's just what I know about how the tariffs are going to affect the economy. The tariffs are going to affect the economy.
Speaker 1:Now, as far as what you were talking about with, I said I wanted to give you an opposing opinion. I completely forgot what the point was, but my thought is this the illegal immigration situation would be. I completely forgot, so it'll come back to me in a minute. But so let's just talk about something else. What I'm seeing is with the Latino community. I don't think they understood and I think they got caught off guard with the deportations and because I actually believe some of them thought that they were not going to be deported, I don't feel like, um, these roundups and these deportations, they are, um, just, you know making discretionary, you know investigations before they, if you just speak Spanish and you're Brown, and it doesn't matter if you're like, you're from a South American country, they're just, they're just putting you in detention and they're going to, like you know, put them in detention and let's shake all of this up and find out what happens later.
Speaker 2:Exactly, and you've seen in the news, where they've detained three American citizens a mother, grandmother, grandmother and a child, right because they were literally speaking spanish and it's just like okay, I know, I remember go ahead it's just like.
Speaker 2:So you're exactly right, they're not. They're not doing it in an effective manner, they're just going out there and they're literally just they're going about it. Totally wrong, in my opinion, because they're knocking on people's doors and they don't have warrants that are signed. They're just hoping to just catch all these people who are illegal and then putting them where, and they don't even have a plan to put them anywhere.
Speaker 1:Well, they're sending some of them back to different places, and they have been successful with that, but that took some time.
Speaker 1:And they're Guantanamo Bay. So here's the other part. Okay. Now the part that I'm probably in agreement with is if you're here illegally, Okay. Probably in agreement with is if you're here illegally, okay, you need to leave or be removed and then try to do this legally. So I get that. So there is a part of this that I actually think should be the case. I mean, you want to try to do it legally? Now here's a challenge the system is not set up, so it moves quick.
Speaker 2:No, it's not.
Speaker 1:I think what's actually happening is you have people that have been trying for years and it's been hard to get over here, so they've been trying to hang on.
Speaker 2:Well, one to be to stay here legally. It is a very convoluted system and it's a convoluted way of trying to get your loved ones to be able to become naturalized, and it's not cheap. It is not cheap. My grandparents did it, my uncles have done it. It is not. It's not an easy process, like my. My grandfather, you know, is an American citizen, but that took years and I mean they got to learn more about American history than we learned about in school and we live here, like the questions and things that my grandfather was studying.
Speaker 2:I could not believe it and I was like I didn't even know that and I went to school demonizing those who are here illegally too, because you know, he has categorized Trump has categorized them as criminals and rapists and murderers and drug addicts. Yes, you always have that in a population, hands down. But what is the percentage of those who are really criminals to the percentage of those who are illegal? It's very smallest between one to 3%. It's not this massive amount of people. If you listen to his narrative and and his, his team of people that there's just this huge narrative of, there's just every single person that's crossing the border is a rapist and a murderer and, and they just deal drugs.
Speaker 1:It's a scare tactic.
Speaker 2:Absolutely.
Speaker 1:Yes, and that's why a lot of the people voted because they're not aware, they don't see it, but they're hearing this, so they voted for it. Where there is a lot of migrants or immigrants and they're here to work, then of course you had that interaction. But if you don't and you're hearing that message, you're afraid, so you're going to vote for people that you feel like are going to protect you. That was a scare tactic.
Speaker 2:Right, I agree with that. I also think too, if you look at the percentage of Hispanics that voted for him, that voted for this, and I get, that there may be and this is hard to say a little bit of ignorance too, which is hard to even say. I'm not quite sure how you can be ignorant to the fact that he kept saying I'm going to deport people, I'm going to deport people, I'm going to deport the murders and the rapists and and those who are here illegal. I'm going to do a mass deportation. Did you think the mass did not, was not going to touch your, your community, your circle? Well, I, just I have a hard time. It's just like I have a hard time understanding that.
Speaker 1:Well, he told him he wasn't I during the campaign, if you take a look at the Florida the female representative.
Speaker 1:she's pleading with him to intervene in this, because during his campaign he told them if you're illegal. If you are illegal that you would be able to stay here. You are legal, that you would be able to stay here. But I don't think the ICE agents are out there, you know? Okay, If you're legal, check. If you're illegal, check, check, check. Okay, you go over there. I don't think that's, just think they basically looking at where you're from. Do you speak Spanish? Let's go.
Speaker 2:Right. Okay, and it's so interesting because that's all you hear about in the news, but you don't hear about all those thousands that they have already brought back to China and other parts of the world. What?
Speaker 1:do you mean?
Speaker 2:Those who are illegal that they've shipped them back.
Speaker 1:I've heard some of it. I was listening.
Speaker 2:You don't. You don't see that on mainstream at all, unless you're seriously looking for it, and so it's just so disproportionate, because this really has become a focal point of Illegal equals Hispanics. Illegal immigrants are the. You know, the face of illegal immigrants are Hispanics, and that's just that's. That's not the full story, and they are the masters at marketing that.
Speaker 1:I think so. I think it's anybody that's black or brown, or anybody that's Muslim.
Speaker 2:Well if anyone that's Muslim, yeah, but then you got to look Muslim. You know what I'm saying?
Speaker 1:No, but I think that's a big part of it too, because you have to remember that you had the mass protests and everybody in Michigan, in the big Michigan community. They didn't want to vote for Kamala Harris because Joe Biden kept supplying Israel with arms. So they were going to send a message to Kamala Harris because Joe Biden wouldn't stop not to vote for her.
Speaker 2:Because Joe.
Speaker 1:Biden wouldn't stop not to vote for her. Now they're asking people to protest and join're going to make the Gaza Strip the Middle East Riviera. We're going to take over and we're going to level the place and we're going to bring in people from all over the world. Make it beautiful make it beautiful condos beachfront property.
Speaker 1:And then maybe a few people from Palestine or Gaza can stay there and work for everybody else. So, um, so, now it's a big issue. So now it's a big issue. So there's a little bit of what I'd have noticed is there's a little bit of resentment and hate because the Hispanic community, they're wanting to know why the African-Americans are not standing up and protesting with them. Okay, right, so I got a couple of theories on that. Number one we've seen this, we've dealt with this for centuries 82% of black women, black women, 82% of black women and 83% of black men voted for Harris. Okay, and here's the thing I believe normally it's about 8% of black men. So they actually doubled it this time and I have a theory as to why it was doubled, so I'm going to tell you that after.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I'd love to hear that.
Speaker 1:Okay, after I explain to you, okay, why black folks are not protesting, because there's only so many times or things that we could say right, okay.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Right. So if you're you're Hispanic and you want to stay in this country, one of the things that you need to do is you need to look at the people that have been here, that have gone through this, which are the black folks, right, and which are the indigenous people Right, and they almost never vote for people that don't have their best interests in mind, right, right, ok, so that's your first lesson, all right. So, black folks, we've been here, we've gone through this, we know, okay, we've had to start our own colleges because we couldn't go to school.
Speaker 2:Exactly Okay. Had to start our own hospitals.
Speaker 1:Right. We had to go through all of this since Reconstruction, Jim Crow, segregation and now civil rights.
Speaker 2:Yep.
Speaker 1:And up until the 60s, we didn't have the right to vote Right and women didn't have a right to have a bank account right right.
Speaker 1:So we've gone through all this. So how much more can we tell you what's going to happen? By telling you based on our experience. So if you don't want to listen, we can't. I have a friend and he has a saying. He you know I can take you to school, but ain't nothing I can do if you eat your books. So you can eat the books, and that's what was happening. So right now, we're definitely not helping with the protest from a black community, because one of the things I will say is black folks, although we've been here, this is what we have and this is what we have to fight for, right.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 1:So we are patriotic? Oh, absolutely. Okay, we fought in all the wars. Okay, we represented our country in the Olympics Olympics, and we represented strong in the 1936 Olympics. Jesse Owens, yes, jesse Owens didn't have any rights.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:Right, heil Hitler was the people that, the person that he had to show that you know, you guys are not superior. So we've gone through this stuff um. So now they're upset, they're blocking roadways, they're blocking their own interstate protests and they're burning the american flag Right. So we got a bunch of backlash for kneeling for the flag Right. So we don't burn the American flag.
Speaker 2:Right, we just kneeled in protest. Silently Right. It wasn't interfering with anyone.
Speaker 1:If you want to be an American citizen, one of the things you probably shouldn't do is burn the American flag, and you have to be, as have to burn the American flag in protest.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and I never believe in. I believe in protest. Go ahead and protest all you want, but don't protest in a manner in which it impedes.
Speaker 1:Your progress. Your progress Like roadways and stuff. We learned that from Dr King.
Speaker 2:You know let's not do that, but I'm not quite sure, and this goes back a little bit.
Speaker 1:Definitely don't burn the American flag.
Speaker 2:Right, don't let, let's not do that. I have a little more respect for that.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:But this sort of goes back to what I was saying is that you were consistently told you as in a community, as part of the country, were told this is what this dude is going to do. This is what Trump is going to do. He is going to deport you. He doesn't care if it is your mom, your grandma, your child, your dad, your uncle, he does not care. He does not care if you are here on a green card, if you're in the process, if you're here illegally, if you're here on asylum. Dude does not care. And I'm not quite sure.
Speaker 2:And now you're in the find out phase, because it has been said over and over and over again. I don't know how many times you got to be like this is what he's going to do. And then you see him do it, and then you're like, oh no, don't do it to us. You said you weren't going to do it to us. Do you think he ever keeps his word? The only thing he keeps his word, as is if it is beneficial for him and, unfortunately, because he wants to do all of this and do the tariffs, along with the mass deportation that is hitting against some of his company buddies and they are. You know they are going to feel the effects of the tariffs on wood and other materials.
Speaker 2:Because what does that affect? That affects housing. Who builds all those houses? Those big construction companies? Who are those construction companies voted for? They voted for him, right, and it's just like okay. So now you can't build this housing, this neighborhood, because you have one, the price of wood's going to double and all your other goods are going to double. And two, who are you going to get there to work? Because now they're all scared to come to work Because why? Ice is coming in and they just taking all of y'all and they just going to shuffle it out later.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so I guess we're just going to have to let him burn this down. Start over from the beginning.
Speaker 2:I'm not going to let it burn down.
Speaker 1:It's unfortunate.
Speaker 2:I'm going to do my part. I'm going to do my part. I'm going to do my part.
Speaker 1:I don't know how the vast majority of it is going to be changed, but that's where it's going, so I want to get back to what we were talking about, like the Muslims and the Palestinians. So the part that I don't get is why did they think not voting for Harris was going to be beneficial? And now why are they asking the black community to support them in protests? It doesn't make any sense. He in his first administration.
Speaker 2:Look what he did to him.
Speaker 1:He put a Muslim ban on them right, exactly. Right, so I mean that you can. That was in the tea leaves. You saw that.
Speaker 2:You saw it Exactly. You saw what he did. It wasn't, it wasn't imagined.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:So that part I'm I'm extremely baffled at and I can I can thoroughly understand the frustration and the angst about Supporting her because of Biden's actions, because, granted, she she has nothing to do with that right she was in his administration, granted, and and this is the funny thing about and this sort of goes off topic, but she's the vice president vice president so she can't tell Biden what to do exactly.
Speaker 1:And he suffers for the same. I'm be quite honest. He suffers for the same. I'm going to be quite honest. He suffers from the same thing that Trump suffers from, which is they both old. They both old, but I'm the smart guy in the room Exactly, I'm the smartest one.
Speaker 2:I've been around the block more than you have.
Speaker 1:And his ego got in the way, and that's why Trump's in office. And his ego got in the way and that's why Trump's in office Because his ego got in the way he should have stepped down and let them primary. Him, let the Democrats primary.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:We'd have had a different president right now. Would have been wonderful, but his ego.
Speaker 2:You're right. Oh, I can beat him, and that's. And that's what my issue is. Is that you, intellectually, you should know and understand that she really had. The vice president has no actual power or you have some influence, but at the end of the day, he did what he thought was best, and just because he thought was best does not mean it falls.
Speaker 1:Well, they probably didn't want her. I don't think anybody want a woman president, especially a black woman president.
Speaker 2:No, we are not ready. I don't think we all be ready, but we.
Speaker 1:I think we're ready for somebody other than a white president. Yeah, white man. President, that's what the problem is. It's been a problem for 300 years now. So that's the part that I don't understand. That's the other part I don't understand. You get into an argument with a MAGA person or Trump supporter and they blame everything on Biden. I mean, we've been going through this. It didn't start with them.
Speaker 2:No.
Speaker 1:I mean 80, I think it's like 80% of the government. Right now are white men Right, and probably before then it was probably like 99%.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly Okay was probably like 99% yes, exactly.
Speaker 1:Okay, so you just think so. Out of what 300 years? For eight years there was somebody other than a white male in charge of things, right? So you keep going to the same? Well, you're going to keep getting the same result. Put somebody else in office and give them an opportunity, and then you could blame them if it's not working. But you can't blame the white guy before the other white guy, before that white guy, because they're all in the black guy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, exactly, Well, you know it's.
Speaker 1:it's all been pretty much the same system for, just with the exception of maybe 20, 30 years of our government, I mean in the 60s and the 60s. Back there wasn't really a difference between the Democrat and the Republican Party, except one was from the South. Yes, exactly, there wasn't a whole difference between the Democrat and the Republican Party except one was from the South.
Speaker 2:Yes, exactly.
Speaker 2:There wasn't a whole lot of difference to it. But I don't know, I just don't understand. You know, the writing was on the wall. We saw what happened in his first presidency. I'm not quite sure what the Muslim population thought was going to happen. When he became president again. Yeah, he was like oh, I'll stop the war. I'll stop the war, we have a ceasefire, but do we have a two state solution? No, you know. Instead they want to level it and build a big beautiful Riviera there. So which basically is ethnic cleansing Exactly so.
Speaker 1:But here's the other part. This is why the protest I get it. You were trying to protest what was taking place in Israel and I get both sides, the Palestinian side and the Jewish side. What I don't get is Bibi Netanyahu and how he's forced his forces to change the way they see things. Yep, because some of my closest friends don't exactly agree with what he's doing, so a lot of his citizens don't agree. They don't agree with what he's doing Exactly so. But here's the part that I think the people here, when they were voting, they didn't quite understand.
Speaker 1:Once again, this is America. You can't go on the college campuses and terrorize people, burn up buildings, burn a flag and terrorize people, which is what they were doing in the name of Palestine. Ok, at some point in time, as an American, you're going to get tired of that, right? So you look at that and you know, as white American, you go oh, we can't have that going on. They're going to come over here and do the same thing to us Exactly. Can't have that going on. They're going to come over here and do the same thing to us Exactly the terrorists, you know. I think one of the guys at his route says you know we need Trump to get rid of jihad, or something like that. So that's that Once again. How do you not associate those two things? All right, and then you can't do all of that and then come back and go. We need the support of the black community. We're not because we're patriots too right.
Speaker 2:Exactly, we love our country too.
Speaker 1:We don't want you burning down our schools or blocking our roadways and everything else and protests. You can learn from how we protested.
Speaker 2:Right, right. Or learn how to protest where it really counts economically. You know, just talk and then you learn how to protest, how South Korea protested. They got their president out of there quick, fast and in a hurry, very quick.
Speaker 1:They weren't messing around because they saw the writing on the wall.
Speaker 2:They're like been there, done that, we're not going to do this again. Therefore, we're going to allow, we're not going to work, we're not going to buy stuff. And they forced their, their government, to impeach him because that's not what, that's not where they wanted their country to go back to, you know, to any kind of dictatorship, and so it's just like. So what do we do? You know, what do we do, I think now, collectively, as a whole unit of those who don't want to see Trump in power or seeing his, his policies continue to thrive. You know, what are we going to do? Well, we'll see what this new budget comes out.
Speaker 1:You mean the one they extended by $4 trillion. That downed, oh yeah absolutely the big beautiful bitch.
Speaker 2:Well, you know it. It's just like how, instead of fighting against um, the black community, because we we don't protest with you, we're not because we did our due diligence. We voted for a person who was who we felt was going to have the best interest for the entire nation and not for someone who has continually divided the nation to the haves and the have nots and the made made everything um a cultural divide.
Speaker 2:Um has just created nothing but hate and discontent right we did what we were supposed to do and it's just like and we'll continue to do what we're supposed to do, but I don't feel like we need to go and go and stand and protest with them, because the mass majority of that ethnicity, y'all voted for them. Now you've got to suffer the repercussions of it.
Speaker 1:Well, I don't think it was the mass majority, I think it was like 50.
Speaker 2:Well, not the mass vast majority, but a large majority of them, a large enough majority that it helped. It scales right. So I remember what I was going to talk about. What I was talking, about the black boat.
Speaker 1:But before I go to that, please subscribe to this channel. All Subscribe and get future episodes as they come available. So now what I want to do is go back to is 83% of black men voted Right? Normally it's about 8%. Okay, you had Ramaswamy and Donald and a few other people. The guy from Texas I can't think of his name, the one that was at the party- Tim Graves.
Speaker 1:No, it was a black guy. He was at the what you call it black history party at the White House. Oh, I didn't, but anyway, they were going into the inner cities and you can see when you go into the inner cities, like where I came from, where I grew up at. When I grew up, it was mostly Italians and Irish in that particular area. But you've seen, since we've had in the last 15, 20 years, we've had the Hispanic influx, they moved into the Lado's areas and taken over businesses.
Speaker 1:So I think Donald Ramaswamy and others have gone into the community and they were telling you know, the young black men that these guys are taking your jobs. Right, they're going to take your job. So they did create a fear and to some extent, they were taking some. They're not taking the jobs, they were doing the jobs that some of the people didn't want to do, and I think some of the young black men saw this taking place. So I feel like they decided that they didn't want this to happen. You've seen some of the crime why, okay that these groups are causing. So they don't even though they didn't want Trump to win, but I feel like they were in a position where they saw some of these things and they were talking.
Speaker 1:You know, these guys were going in and talking to the people in those communities so they were able to sway some of the buttling out of those communities. But I will tell you it will adjust back. Oh yeah, it will adjust back. The pendulum has swung Right. So that was about his only shot and I believe it's going to go back to what it probably was somewhere between 6% to 8%, and that 6% to 8% are just people that would normally vote for him anyway, exactly, yeah, exactly, and I think, like you said, it was just a creation.
Speaker 2:His whole campaign is a creation of fear. Yes, wars and fear. Your child is going to just learn nothing but about transgender in school, and that's how they're going to turn out.
Speaker 2:They create the. You know they just take a culture of DEI and say, oh they're. You know they got the job because of you. Know they're a little white woman. Yeah, not necessarily because you're a black woman or a black man, but they won't say that about a white woman. I don't think. But yeah. So you know they take all that fear and, from what I remember, to just switch back to immigration is in the vote, for why Hispanics really voted so highly for Trump is because of the economy.
Speaker 2:You know he kept touting he's going to do better than you know. There's just going to be a better economy under him. You know prices are going to go down drastically on the first you know first day. Things are just going to drop and prices are going to slash and and gas is going to go low and none of that has come to fruition. Absolutely None of it. It's actually increased. It has. Inflation's gone up. It has. But of course you know that's because Beds are higher. Yeah, gas is higher. It's just like you know.
Speaker 2:And people are not spending money like they used to and they're being smart about where they're spending it. You know they're looking at. You know where our earned money is going to go. It's no longer going towards X, y and Z, so the economy is going to slow, but it's not going to go. It's not no longer going towards X, y and Z, so the economy is going to slow but it's not going to get.
Speaker 2:In my opinion, I don't feel like it's going to get any better because if he goes ahead and does, you know, continues to do these deportations as he's doing, like he's doing them, you're going to see an effect on the economy in a negative way. Now, if he did them, you know, because of course Biden did deportations, but it wasn't like announced, it wasn't saying hey, we're going to go into schools and churches and hospitals and your places, you know where you worship and we're going to drag you out. You know there was none of this PR work behind mass deportation that created fear. They just did the deportations, you know, as normal. But the drastic difference is their PR is all about creating the fear behind it. So now even those who are illegal are like I ain't going outside, I ain't going to work, I'm going to have to figure something else out, and so our economy is going to suck.
Speaker 1:Yeah, that's one of the reasons. There's going to be some other ones as well. So I have to say there is definitely I don't want to say the find out, the F-A part, but you were in the find out phase right now, let's put it like that and there's nothing that you can do about it at this point in time. I guess some more people will have to get deported, Some more people will have to lose some jobs, and it's unfortunate. You won't have to wait until time for your hopefully your representatives come along and you can start voting on your rep for your representatives, because right now it's got all the GOP MAGA. Gops have all three branches.
Speaker 2:Yes, and I don't think that's going to last. Oh, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't know the voting was kind of wonky.
Speaker 2:It was, but I think because of what we see now with the voting was kind of wonky the voting.
Speaker 1:It was intentional. I feel like the reason it was wonky is because the person that's telling me what to do made sure it was going to be wonky. The person that's in there telling me what to do every day, anyway, that's sitting there telling me what to do every day, but anyway, that's just me. I can be alone.
Speaker 2:I mean, we shall see. We shall see, because I think there will be. Unfortunately, the things and policies and things that are in place, that are taking place right now, is having a huge effect on everyday people, not just a select few or the niche of you know, not just the illegal immigrants or immigrants or one kind of community. It is from federal workers to farmers, to construction owners, to business owners. Right, it is hitting everyone right now and it's very unfortunate, right.
Speaker 1:All right, excuse me, yeah, so I don't know. I guess we'll have to see right, unfortunately.
Speaker 2:Unfortunately, unfortunately All right.
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