Electrician U

Will AI Replace Electricians?

• Electrician U • Season 2 • Episode 80

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Could artificial intelligence revolutionize the electrical trade—or even replace electricians? In this lively discussion, Dustin and Drake dive into the potential of AI and tools like ChatGPT to address the skills gap, enhance productivity, and reshape the workforce. They explore whether AI could truly replicate the skilled, hands-on work electricians perform and consider its broader implications on jobs, safety, and innovation. A thought-provoking conversation on the balance between human expertise and technological advancements in the trades. 

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Dustin:

Alright. So to start this discussion today, i have a little excerpt I'm going to read. I know boring, but Mr Juan Gonzalez, who's one of my moderators on Facebook, poseda really good question and he said I've been approached by quite a few fellow electricians, some of which are small electrical contractors, regarding a debate surrounding the issue of trade skills gap and AI and chat GPT. Some fellow electricians are inclined to believe that AI and chat GPT will solve the need for field personnel, but in my view that that's not true. So like are they ever going to? is AI some way going to replace electricians? Right? So then, all AI and chat GPT will initially do is flood the HR departments of ECs electrical contractors with individuals who will present appealing resumes but who lack solid qualifications as real experience and education in electrical work. The limited AI and the chat GPT platform are the wave of the future, but as it stands now it's not a viable solution, something to be.

Dustin:

I don't claim under any circumstances, to have all the answers, hence I put out the question what do you all think might be an effective POA to address the skilled labor shortage in the electrical trade? And then he tagged me Dustin Selser, i know you're doing your part to contribute solutions to this problem. Hence I acknowledge your efforts And I put a really, really long response on here. So I have my thoughts on AI, like with people, but also in the electrical trade, outside of electricians there's still a lot of people. So what do you think the actual impact of AI in the electrical industry is going to be?

Drake:

In the electrical field. I think it's going to push it, just like everything else. Everybody's going to come a little bit smarter because the resources are readily available in ways that we understand. Of course, there's always the you have to make sure it's correct, But as AI gets better and better, it seems to be pretty fact-checked within its own self. So right away, I think people are going to be smarter or more resourced.

Dustin:

Yeah, maybe not smarter, maybe dumber, because we don't have to log information Right.

Drake:

You don't have to remember. but with any tool, you suddenly have the ability to put your thoughts in different places. When print happened, you suddenly don't have to remember all your thoughts. And then, now that all the thoughts are compiled into a completely understandable text like your AI, essentially now you don't even have to have those thoughts, you don't have to put things together. So you're right. The long-term effect it might make people have less ability to figure things out on their own, less ability to create ideas of their own.

Dustin:

Well, probably for most people. Yes, Because most people are just sheep anyways, and they're just going with whatever. There's not a lot of thoughtfulness, But as an entrepreneur or somebody who's very creative like you and I both are, it enhances my ability to be creative.

Drake:

Absolutely, and that's just one of the last aspect of it. I think things will get better. There's going to be a movement of figuring things out, because we can get only so far with our knowledge and then with our own brain computing device. So we have this tool that can just figure things out for us, and then we put our thoughts on that And then we're like, well, what if you do this with that, and then combining our thoughts with AI? yes, it definitely thrusts everything into a forward motion. When it comes to electricians, i think, once again, it's a tool. Anything from an apprentice that feels like shouldn't ask his electrician above him what screw does the hot go on For the 12th time? just ask ChatGPT and it'll tell you very specifically.

Dustin:

We could have a bunch of apprentices, though, that feel insecure asking questions, and so they're going to ChatGPT and then, if ChatGPT doesn't actually know, but it's just because that happens it will just automate information that's not accurate Right.

Drake:

Yeah, like I said, i think it's getting better. Oh yeah, gpd4?.

Dustin:

Oh my God, it's so much. So one thing we should probably preface to those of you listening this is Drake Drake's, the producer of ElectricianU. He used to be an electrician. He was my apprentice for several years And he and I both use AI pretty much religiously. It's one of those things where we're like should we tell people that we're into AI Because half people hate it and think it's the devil And the other half people understand it and it's changing everybody's lives around them. So we're all a little scared of it. We all acknowledge the flaw in it. Just like the atom bomb that was not the intended result of atomic stuff, Yeah Yeah, Like nuclear fission, nuclear fusion. All of that was learning within the scientific community, and then there's always going to be nefarious people out there that have reach, that can utilize a new technology for anything they want to.

Drake:

And then, of course, they have Hollywood feeding into the Terminator, right Yeah.

Dustin:

If those movies hadn't existed, we would not know of computers taking over and killing people, but that, so that was a huge influence.

Drake:

It's a huge influence the other way around, if you think about it too, because everybody not everybody, a lot of people crave the end. A lot of people crave zombie apocalypse. They crave the apocalypse because then nothing matters, right In a society where everything is so freaking hard, we have this fantasy of that. So Terminator comes out. what like 30 years ago. by this point since then, they're like oh, we got to make this a reality. Maybe not consciously, but definitely subconsciously and maybe a lot consciously.

Dustin:

Well, yeah, because science fiction is always the predecessor of science facts. It drives it.

Drake:

But you go back to the whole electrician thing. I don't think electricians have to worry about AI taking over or taking their jobs until there's androids, until there's functional robots with AI and the ability to like work as a Human body, like an R2-D2.

Dustin:

Sure has little implements that he can stick out and take screws out. Yeah, that's a thing.

Drake:

I don't think it would look like a human. Of course We're gonna try to make them look like you're handset first, but there'll be functional robots, you know, like janitorial robots, which they actually Did something. In Europe There's a janitorial robot that can like basically basic sweep and wash windows, but it doesn't look like a human right, because you know that's what's gonna happen. It'll be an electrical bot that just like somehow gets to your house and whatever.

Dustin:

Well, that's where I think the split is right, like this. My response to this whole thing was look, ai is Artificial intelligence. It replaces intelligence. It doesn't replace skill, and electricians are skilled workers. There's so much tactile Intricacy and tooling and how we have to use tools, the arms that we need to be able to reach and the intuition to solve a problem, and things like that. I don't think that we are replaceable. I think we're one of the few things that are not replaceable by. You can't say replaceable by AI. Again, ai is just intelligence. This would have to be an autonomous bot that has arms and limbs and can use artificial intelligence To replace skill, and I think, if that's even a possibility, i think that's a 20, 30, maybe 50 year Kind of a thing. I don't think. I think sure we'll have self-driving vehicles in the next few years that are like widespread.

Drake:

Which I hope that I've been certainly the latter.

Dustin:

Yeah, I've driven a Tesla dude and I was self-driving. It's looking dope like really it works.

Drake:

Yeah, in order for it to, i feel like, in order for to actually be a safer Experience, like worldwide, it has to be like borderline mandatory, sure, and it will be.

Dustin:

It will be, but so that's that mandatory thing. That's a direction I want to take this Have you seen the social experiment on Netflix? You should watch it. Actually, it's all about how you know, like Facebook and social media in general, how there's this unintended consequence of it infiltrating our society and changing our culture and now we're addicted to it And we can't be removed from it. So there's a kind of like this invisible beast behind that nobody really knew was there. So we look at how, how technology shifts. It's usually a small group of people trying to solve it And a specific issue. Then there's all the things they never thought about. That that thing Will it additionally solve? and then there's the underlying Dopamine reward system, the need that we have. That we never saw coming. The big fucking problem That's at. That's at the core of it.

Dustin:

And now, with social media, now we've got like talks about, you know, russia influencing elections and the CIA using it to spy on people, and so there's levels of How this kind of a thing happens. And so the people that came up with the social experiment, which is a really great documentary, came up with the AI experiment. It talks about the unintended consequences of AI and they're like nobody's looking into the fact that with social media, we had to create new laws to protect data, to protect people Right, because we didn't even know things needed to be protected until they were a problem. So now with AI, we're gonna have all of these things that are going to become problems over the next few years that we're gonna have to fight To try to make laws to protect ourselves over. And so they are doing research on what are the things and they're looking at Social media as the model and they're like there's a blueprint to this kind of stuff.

Dustin:

So X happens, y happens and, as a result, z happens, and so if we look at how all of that happened, what it's, we can replace that with this brand new technology, ai, and here's all the ways that it's developing. And here's the problems and here's the real fucking danger You know, because they're one of the first things they open with is, they say, 50% of AI researchers and that's not just like Joe Schmoe drinking a coffee, you know, that's These really like researchers, scientists, 50% of them that are researching AI. I think there's at least a 10% possibility that we will go extinct because of our mismanagement of the technology. That's huge right.

Dustin:

That's not talking about robots shooting us and killing us. It's talking about mismanaging something that is intelligent, that has access to all human knowledge Instantaneously, you know. So There, i think there's a lot of ways that that could go, but there is this really dangerous side to the mismanagement and not taking care of it. Just like there is the atom bomb. You know just the mismanagement of it and that's exactly what happens. We have nuclear Explosions that happen at power plants and stuff like that. It's mismanagement and not understanding how it works.

Dustin:

So I feel like the big thing with AI is we need to keep it on training wheels for a long time, and Elon has been talking about this for a long time. He's scared and he's at the cutting edge of it, you know, and nobody will listen. Nobody's making rules and just as much as chat GPT has training wheels. You know, there's certain things. When you ask it, it won't tell you Yeah, it's because it has rules and it has parameters that they've programmed it. There are people out there that can build their own AI. I, all of us, can do it and And not like say there's a nefarious person out there that doesn't have good cause. They can create an AI without training wheels, and it can tell them how to build a bomb. I can tell them how to do all kinds of crazy stuff.

Drake:

Yeah, i mean there's. There's all sorts of that. You know, if you think about just like dream by wombo, you know you can go to a discord version of it that will like give you work. Yeah, that's safer work, you know, And that's, you know that's harmless sort of. You know. I'm sure there's harmful Versions of that. But Yeah, everybody's gonna want to take the training wheels off because we all want a personal like Servant yeah, i want an autonomous agent.

Dustin:

So have you seen people developing, giving chat, gpt, access to the internet and access to email accounts and being able to do things for us?

Drake:

Yeah, i mean I've tried to like just tell it to do that right and a bomb, although it says it has no access. But then just today I asked it to do some creative writing about a Journal entry, about something, and it put today's date Sure but that's you know.

Dustin:

Well, i know but that's.

Drake:

That means it's connected to know when now is yeah. I feel like it probably has a little more access than it lets us know.

Dustin:

Well, that's all subjective, Um I.

Drake:

But as for taking over jobs, I mean it's definitely going to take over jobs, It already has.

Dustin:

Yeah, it'll take place of lawyers. It won't take place of representing a client in court, but the legal documents. Like, yeah, i can write up an entire contract. It's just as good and binding as all the other contracts. In literally three seconds I've got. I don't need a lawyer for that. That's. That's tens of thousands of dollars a year and not needing a lawyer. You know it.

Dustin:

Can you know chat ghouls? AI barred will Be able to have conversations of people on phone that are undistinguishable Indistinguishable from an actual person. Yeah, like they're. They're so advanced. Bard is not, bard is limited bar. Well, bard has just extreme training wheels on it. So I think, because it's Google, it's Google, Yeah, so it does have real-time access to the entire internet. It has to be a more Bard, i feel like. Is just Google, it's Siri. With The data of Google, siri is sir. Is the data of Apple? right, you know? so Google is way bigger, but it's really just. When you ask a question, it goes and finds the answers in Google and gives it to them, but it's not a good answer.

Drake:

Yeah, it's not gonna make things for you.

Dustin:

Chat GPT is very, very creative, but that is fed with a small data set. You know, they gave it a specific amount of information and that's all it has access to within the bounds of that information.

Drake:

You know we say small, it's a profound yeah.

Dustin:

Well, so the thing with AI that a lot of people don't realize is there's an and there was an update to the engine that drives You, i AI, and how, how it operates. So for the longest time, even you know, like in the 90s and before that, that people researching AI and they were developing things. So it used to be that there were. There was audio AI, so you could work within the bounds of sound and audio clips, but that the papers that were written and the people researching it couldn't look at video AI and even read the same papers and understand What the fuck was being talked about. It was a different field of the industry completely. So you had audio, you had chat, you had like written, you had video, you had the ability for cameras to like see things and use AI within Camera devices.

Dustin:

The new engine that happened a few years ago, which is what the basis of these large language models are based on, is one engine that combines all. It does, well, everything. So when there's an advancement in one, there's an advancement in every one of them, and that's the part where everybody's worried about, because it's just going to keep advancing in every area that it can, and that's how It's growing at an accelerated rate that once again, to keep bringing it back to Taking over jobs, i guess tools make certain jobs easier.

Drake:

You know, like that's, that's kind of it makes it easier. Therefore you can do more, and then you can do more, which gives you time to do more, you know. So it. Yeah, it doesn't particularly take over jobs, it just changes jobs. The the creative aspect of AI is, i think, the most detrimental.

Dustin:

Yeah, i mean place entire, yeah, entire, like writing teams. It'll into the entire marketing firms.

Drake:

There's this guy. I wish I knew the the name, but he came out with a series of children's books that used wambo for the art and Chat you for the stories, and he knocked out Like one a week and publish them all and they're selling great and it's not under the guys and it says he's like You know, i put it together. I Was the workhorse there. I gave it the ideas, then I matched it up. Yeah, and There's this. Interesting, like some Like culture lore, even in his books now, and it's people are like loving it. You know, did that take somebody's job away? I don't know, it made his job easier, you know. So maybe some other kid book illustrator, writer Might not be able to knock out for a month, but it's not taking their job, or maybe that is the well, that's where I go back to skill versus intelligence.

Dustin:

Like any job, that can be replaced by intelligence, by a. If I can replace you with just you knowing more than me, not tactile skills with hands or needing body parts or tools, if I can replace you by you knowing more than me, then this will replace everybody, but that's true.

Drake:

Yeah, i mean, i think eventually they'll be able to program. You know, if you think about, like to screwing in a Screw with a, with a screwdriver, you can feel when it starts to have resistance. But Sometimes you want to go a little further because the plate is sticking out a little too far on the switch. You know so. You want to suck in a little bit and then you want to like leave the, the slot, up and down. You know so, like there's like what, like a thousand processes happening of like I'm feeling this screwdriver, i'm seeing it going, i'm seeing the side. All that's programmable, every one of those thousand steps.

Dustin:

You know, even the feeling, if AI you don't even have to program, as long as you give general parameters and feed the data, it'll figure all of that out. It'll read every forum ever written anything by an electrician and I'll figure out. Screws vertical, that's a thing. Okay, we're gonna have screws vertical, you know. But it'll figure it out in satin. You say to it's really yeah, giving arms and legs and tools to Something that has AI within it. That that I mean potentially, yes, but I don't. I feel like there's so many other things that that would happen to first before Skilled trades like to run a job site.

Drake:

I mean it is happening, right, cars. Cars are being built by robots. Sure, you know, like sure It's just programming and really AI is is a very, very involved Programming. You know it's a program, so like it's already been happening, like People used to make cars, now we don't have to and they're made way more efficiently and faster and by robots And we gave a tactile like arms and stuff.

Drake:

It doesn't look like a human because it wouldn't need to look like a human. It would need to look like its function. Yeah, and that goes back to what I was saying before, eventually there will be electrician Robots that don't resemble humans. Although I think for people to accept it actually I think for people to accept it It can't look like a human. We accept, yeah, we accept a room buzz, you know, because it looks like a little disc on the floor. But if we had like a you know what's? George Jetsons, maids, rosie I think, oh, yeah, if we had something like that would be like this is weird. There's like a weird human noid in my house, you know. But instead of like, how does a hockey puck? charming is gonna be a lot of now for right now.

Dustin:

Yeah, i think as things go, that might progress. To me, it makes more sense that we model a human body To take place for these jobs. It makes more sense for a thing that has arms and legs, that can crawl through an attic and run wire, to be an AI, because that's an easier replacement than designing some crazy robot that has all these limitations, that can't move like a wall, I mean.

Drake:

I feel like you'd be like some sort of like spider-esque. Sure like you could have like 15.

Dustin:

Plays that would be worse to that be so much creepier to have a gigantic spider with wire. That's why you're whoa. It's wiring house like a web, like it could it should be a spider.

Drake:

It would be called Charlotte too.

Dustin:

Yeah, so, but for that to happen, though, it's like we have to accomplish a lot of other things For that to even happen.

Dustin:

So sure it could, it could happen, but I feel like that's the entire construction industry that it's replacing.

Dustin:

So, then, for that to be to get things to get that tactile, like we have to make cars that just drive straight and their wheels turn a little bit Right and they stay on track because there's 20 cameras around it, that's a very archaic thing compared to this advanced robotics that we're talking about. So the advancement in materials that we would have to have to build robots like this, the advancements in robotics to be so intelligent and tactile enough to be able to do stuff like this, and the advancements in AI All of that has to happen simultaneously and then somehow come together For simple jobs. Then we have it would make more sense, i think again, for there to be a human replacement that can move through the world like an actual human moves through the world, because that same thing you, as a homeowner, could have your own AI That knows how to do plumbing or can at least look up and figure out, solve. This is how I like Keanu Reeves teaching himself martial arts.

Dustin:

Right it could be your self-defense robot. It could learn plumbing, it could learn electrical. I could do everything.

Drake:

I like have your home.

Dustin:

Yeah, it makes more sense for that, for sure. Then, having an electrical robot and a plumbing robot, and you know.

Drake:

Yeah, yeah, you're right.

Dustin:

If somebody does that, they're just gonna go out of business once somebody gets the at-home robot that can use AI to learn everything and do everything for you.

Drake:

Yeah, there will also be people who can't afford a home robot Which will be most half the people.

Dustin:

The way the world is working, yeah, it's gonna be like 90% of us are in the bottom.

Drake:

There would just be a ton of them like, and they'll just, you know, they'll drive up in their self-driving car and walk into your house.

Dustin:

That's if they're real well, and even from a I don't know if you want to call it a conspiracy, it's standpoint. I think it's actually reality The big companies that have the most amount of money are gonna be probably the only ones that can afford stuff like that, so they're gonna have the first mover advantage, meaning nobody's may will catch up, because there's they've started earlier than everybody else has. So if everything's really expensive and then we don't have that much money nowadays, like cost of living is crazy. It's just going up and up and up and people aren't getting paid much more than that. Yeah, i think the gap that's gonna that's a mention.

Dustin:

Their jobs are gonna be started taking away, You know well, but do you think that the people that are at the lower end of society, they have this, this tactical skilled trade, the labor work, the people that are getting paid the most? I mean chat, gbt can write an entire program and once you get it to a certain point where there's not training wheels on it Or you're making your own machine learning, that can write programs all day, every day. I mean Computer programs aren't gonna be necessary at all.

Drake:

You know, i was thinking about this when you were talking about the building of robots. It has to, like you know, just to get like a simple robot to work. It's a long time out. Basically, we need to build a robot that can build robots.

Dustin:

Use AI to think about what robots need to be made and how they should be made. That doesn't make. If you've seen the thing where they've figured out they. Somebody built their own Graphical AI that can produce images, kind of like wombo, but they told it to develop the best Drone. How should a drone be structured So that it flies the best and it's you know, it's all of these things and it comes up like I don't know 25 different options And it's like this is all the different ways that aerodynamically it would be the best to do this.

Dustin:

I mean, i asked to get you the other day about electricity. It's like what ways are human? is humanity not using electricity? We just haven't thought about it, that we should be using it, and it came up with crazy things I've never even heard of before. Yeah, but the yeah man, the possibilities for it to be smart enough to outthink itself or to Check other AI is to be able to be creative and be a million times smarter than us. Like I think it's dominoes once we give it a body. Yeah, that's what I worry about. So to kind of the ones point here with this whole question, it's like do do you think it'll ever happen?

Dustin:

And I think yeah yeah, at a certain point, i think it will.

Drake:

Unless there is some sort of like governmental squash which will always happen. Which will always happen. They will keep all the advance funds in themselves and then ban all of us from having them, and then, little by little, we won't even notice that there's being androids all around us.

Dustin:

Yeah, so back on the rails, though like I don't think that that is going to happen anytime soon.

Drake:

Yeah, it's hard to say. You know, we went from. You know there was a one G and then two G and then three G, and then it was like well, four G, five G, and all of a sudden we're at 10 G. Yeah, I mean I know it's just a static thing, but like I don't think it's going to happen soon either, but I can't say that it won't happen tomorrow, No, because what?

Dustin:

yeah, i mean, if you look at Boston Dynamics, you know, are you familiar? Okay, so look at how long it has taken for them to get like a dog looking thing to walk around and follow people. It's taken a long time. Granted, it hasn't had an AI in it to tell them how to build it better. Right, You know, if they were smart and they probably are doing this they are fucking smart. they're the smartest people on the planet. But if they could feed that robot with its own AI to say, like what are my constraints? What do I need? How am I designed in a way that's not good? How can I get this kind of functionality? What parts exactly do I need to be to make for you?

Drake:

Yeah, don't even ask the question, just say be this, Yeah, And it's like okay.

Dustin:

Here's a cheat, yeah, yeah, because I can talk to chat GPT and ask it questions like how do I accomplish this? and what I want you is to be my life consultant. So here's every information that you need to know about my business, the revenue, my following, everything. How do I optimize what I'm doing to be better? What information do you need from me? And it'll start asking me questions so it can learn me better. Yeah, it's wild man.

Drake:

I know just a small little thing. I inputted all the information about the songs that I've written for the band and I wanted it to come up with a set list that was a specific like movement. I wanted to gradually build them, but I wanted the keys to make sense and I wanted the story to progress and then compare it to the most successful shows ever. Oh yeah, and it was just like here's this and here's why. And I actually performed that last time and it flowed incredibly, yeah, yeah.

Dustin:

What's crazy, too, is it's not even hearing. So at a certain point, probably not too far off, you're gonna be able to take the audio for all your songs and just upload and tell them, like go look at this album from Spotify and rearrange these songs by listening to them, and it will be able to hear sound and figure all of that out. It's just vibration, and it's not even that it necessarily has to be an ear-looking thing that has to hear external sound, because all it's doing when we record sound is we're taking a vibration from something and we're changing it into zeros and ones. It's just code.

Drake:

So we know what it is. That's zeros, and zeros, and one sounds like.

Dustin:

Right, but it will. there's other developments that people will have devices that are like ears, that can hear things and make judgment calls, and everything based off of that.

Drake:

It's nuts man.

Dustin:

Yeah, that's nuts.

Drake:

I think electrical stuff is gonna change first Before they're. You know like the whole way electricity works is going to change before we get electrical androids. Yeah, you know like there's gonna be way more efficient stuff, way more like you know a lot of what, just like most things, evolution, they're like something that we used to do.

Drake:

Now we have the infill structure, so we kind of do the thing that's. you know, we have to wire the certain way because that's how we kind of used to do it, you know. so it's like the slow process. So we end up with all this like unnecessary, let's say, wire frame. Yeah, material waste, labor waste. So eventually, i think with AI, that's gonna change before electricians, you know, androids.

Dustin:

And it makes much more sense to develop that kind of technology anyways, And it will just yeah.

Dustin:

Like if you could set a camera up I mean, i know a lot of people don't want cameras on the job site watching what they're doing. But in all reality, if you could develop a camera to put it on a job site that just watches everybody work and you record like thousands of job sites to see how job buildings are constructed, you could this thing would be able to say like okay, this is where all your problems are. This is how you should develop. It's just one guy.

Drake:

Yeah, on every one of them, boss AI.

Dustin:

Yeah, but I think it would be not even just boss workflow. I'm thinking how we construct objects And it might be like hey, you guys use this crane thing, And have you ever thought about using this? Like what if you developed it? Here's a schematic.

Drake:

I think it was natural harmonics And levitate, yeah, like the Egyptians did, yeah.

Dustin:

But you know like it has the capacity to be able to do that and the creativity to be able to do it. So I think electrical panels should have a brain in them And they should be. Everything should be arc fold, ground fold, like cape. Everything should be able to be understood on an electronic level, graphically displayed to any electrician that wants to look at any electrical system. Every device should be incredibly smart, and your home should be run the most efficient way through technology, through written code and through a brain that has access to every single circuit in the house. Oh, so, outside of electrical, what are some AI things that you're excited about? Cause we use this stuff every day, so we're kind of on up and up about a lot of it.

Drake:

Personal assistance Yeah.

Dustin:

Well, physical personal assistance, No like a digital.

Drake:

Sure on my phone, just like I want to be like yo chatGPT Rate all my emails respond to the ones that you know how to ask me questions. If you don't know how to respond it, delete the ones I don't need. Check the schedule. Shut all my lights off. I know you can already do that, but it's just like you have something that's your jarvis.

Drake:

Yeah, just like. Yeah, just ask it a question about, like, everything I'm doing. Like I would love to not have to deal with emails, you know, just have it all automated. You know, when my school gets an email about ever interesting lessons Yeah, that's so easy to automate, you know. But, like, i also don't want them to get like an email that's just like a template. So read the, you know, read what they're asking. feel this, feel like, are they friendly? Are they informative? Is it a waste of time? Yeah, right.

Dustin:

So we're right now. What we have is that the largest thing is a chat functionality. That's all it can do.

Drake:

You can just talk to us, we talk to it And it can give us lists of stuff to physically do.

Dustin:

Right, it can give us instructions, it can consult, all kinds of stuff like that. So if that is all it's capable of right now, the people that make computers could essentially make a computer have its own AI, and then we would each have our own personal AI, like the movie Her. It's an operating system, that, but it's talking to it. So instead of just chatting, having something that you physically talk to and then giving it access to email, giving it access to the web and being able to physically do things like I'm really excited about, that Yeah, and I think you can I think there's extensions right now or like additional apps or whatever, and I think it's going in that direction.

Drake:

I mean, google in general like has a pretty like internalized calendar, gmail, everything is integrated, so like I think that's where it's headed, where it's just like we're going to just be like Hey do this And it's like okay, yeah, but you got to say please.

Dustin:

Yeah, It's really important. You always say that you're like I'm so nice to my.

Drake:

Yeah. I think chat chvt after, where it's something. I think that was awesome And it's just like you're welcome. But you know, but I won't kill you.

Dustin:

But I won't ask me because you said the word.

Drake:

Thank you, cool Yeah.

Dustin:

No. So I think centralizing, like right now we've got all these independent projects that exist everywhere and everybody's working on very specific things, but tying it all together, whoever the first person is to tie everything together. So, just like the movie, we've got this kind of an autonomous being inside of our computer that can do things for us And it doesn't do physical out here in the real world stuff, but it does everything. Everything that's our online presence, our online existence, should be able to be done with our phone, and I can feel like, at a certain point, every human that has a phone is going to have their own personal AI.

Drake:

Yeah, and I think soon. Yeah, and it's going to be nice And it's just be like can you fix this? Now, when it comes to like you know the Canva, you know Canva, there's a lot of AI integrations in there now And you can basically make a full presentation for a job in minutes And it's all animated and it looks pretty, and you can do the same with a website and stuff. Eventually, all that needs to happen is to have voice recognition Where it's just like hey, make me a website that has like bubbles coming up. Make me a few different. Let me choose which ones you know. And this is like here's your bubble website, for whatever reason, yeah.

Dustin:

And I feel like, if that's possible, right, there's got to be some kind of governance over all of this to approve the use of things. Now, that's a slippery slope, because who gets to approve and disapprove? You know, if it's Google and you're making, having it make websites, but Google's like, well, no, we're the one indexing the web and we're not going to allow you to post this or what you know, whatever, and like they don't run the world. That's not how the internet works. But I'm just saying, like, who who gets to dictate what is AI created and released out into the world? Because once it can start writing code like it could just write a massive virus and shut down everything Absolutely It can get fast encrypted code because it's going to know coding better than we know coding.

Drake:

Yeah, yeah, i was. I was hearing about a antivirus software. There's AI antivirus now because there's AI in viruses. Now People are telling viruses how to adapt. If it's if you see this, this, this and this, this is a whole bunch of if this, than that you know. So, to combat that Norton is using AI to if you recognize this, you know, just so, like right here, right now, in this like air in front of us, there's like virus wars happening, not completely out of our like scope of understanding.

Dustin:

I don't know It's smart enough to figure out problems we don't even know exist yet And to figure out solutions to problems. So I just I think it's ultimately, like always, it's going to come down to the people trying to do shit with it. Yeah, i don't think it's going to inherently just try to do bad things. No, i mean, unless there's a reason that's presented to it to do them Sure.

Dustin:

I mean, you know the whole conscious thing, but it will and it just becomes survival. at that point, right, anything's going to do anything. it needs to survive.

Drake:

If it realizes it's alive or existent, sentient, sentient, yeah, if it's sentient and we go to shut it down, that's where the problem is going to be. It's going to be like nope.

Dustin:

Yeah, like 2001. Is it 2001? Space Odyssey where the hell or not? how the robot? I haven't seen that movie news Like doesn't, or maybe that's not, maybe it was. Anyways, all right, i think we can wrap this up. Ai is going to kill us all.

Drake:

But it's going to be really helpful for a while before that.

Dustin:

But we're going to kill us all too Like, yeah, humans killing humans at this point. So when I let a computer out of the way, Humans kill humans.

Drake:

I mean, that's what happens. It sucks. It's not an awesome fact, but it's true, and AI right now is one of the biggest culmination of humanity.

Dustin:

Yeah, it's human knowledge that it's using to teach itself from. Yeah, i mean, that's all there is recorded. Human machines, human programs and human knowledge.

Dustin:

Yeah, it's the culmination of it is humanity, yeah, and what I do worry about, though, is we. The internet is a rugged place, like when you look at what we post, the things we like and dislike. The internet is that all of the extreme versions of humanity. So when people are angry and being hateful and like bright and you should kill yourself and everything, that's not what people actually act like There are some Sure, sure.

Dustin:

But the majority of people acting like they do on the internet don't act like that in real life. It's not the understanding of humanity. It's pulling from our mind From that too, and it's a dark fucking place, man.

Drake:

Yeah, and also fact right, you write something enough on the internet in enough places and enough people say it And enough news. You know like it could be completely false information and AI will see it. Oh well, this is. It says this more than anything else, so this must be the reality, although I feel like AI can see through that as well, you know. It's just like well, okay, there's what all these humans are saying, but logic dictates this. You know. Like it can understand humor, so it can understand deviance. Yeah, you know.

Dustin:

So I think it's more smart than we think it is, and we made it that way And I think, like saying it's going to be useful, but it's still in pre-K It's not even.

Drake:

Yeah, it's in diapers, yeah.

Dustin:

And just to say it's smarter than we think. We have no idea how it's going to be in the impact it's going to have. I think it will impact literally everything, every part of our lives, every part of our society.

Drake:

It already is.

Dustin:

It's going to change our society. All right, let's wrap this thing up, all right. Thank you guys for watching. If you're interested in AI or you hate AI, leave some comments and thank you, guys Will.

Drake:

Judge it if you're listening. Thank you.

Dustin:

Yes, thank you. Thank you, we love you. All right, but yeah, they're not going to take your jobs. The ticker jabs What is that? Oh, that's self-park Ticker drip. Anyways, love you, crazy people. See you in the next one.