Clearing The Crease Podcast

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Ozoon Season 3 Episode 92

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Clearing the Crease's most viral guest of all time returns, as Matthew Barnaby joins Commie, Mike Commodore, Cball, James Cybulski, and Razor, Andrew Raycroft, to talk his scrappy NHL career.

Barnaby touches on his well known dislike of Hasek, what it was like playing for the Rangers and Sabres, and NHL coaches he REALLY did not get along with. We'll cover all that and more on today's NHL hockey video!


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Can you imagine asking to get traded from a team and they win the Stanley Cup three months later? That would stink. That would stink.

SPEAKER_02

That would and you were in the building. And you're in the building. I can't believe you're in the building. But it was game six. Yeah. It was game six, so they couldn't win it that night.

SPEAKER_08

Okay. Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah.

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We're there. And everyone's like, no one knew what really happened. And me and Maisie are like, you could hear a pin drop in that building. Yeah.

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And me and Maisie are like each other. We're like, we go to the city. We go to the back of the suite.

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We're like, quietly.

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Fire popping it. We go to the bar that they all go to, and we're like, tough one A boy.

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Well played, and we are well played in the lounge here, alongside the Stanley Cup winner, Mike Commodore, the Calder Trophy winner, Andrew Raycroft. I'm James Sabalski, and this edition we are bringing back the official friend of the show. Is that fair? Mike. I think that's very fair. No one's made more appearances on the Clearing the Crease podcast, powered by Ozoon, than Matthew Barnaby. I I, you know, the one thing I was kind of thinking, we we kind of went down memory lane the last time you were on, uh, talking about all the different teams, and and you know, you kind of pointed out that I was, hey, they're all non-playoff teams. But did you ever miss not playing in Canada? That feels like a miss for your personality.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, for first of all, Stanley Cup champion, Calder of off-ice guru. All right, I set up a lot of parties for these teams. Yes, that's kind of my trophy that I, the guru guy. Yeah, but uh listen, I would have loved to play in Canada. And the only chance I really had him, I'd been rumored to be traded to Ottawa so many times. And my my buddy I actually went to high school with in Ottawa, I on the Quebec side, it was filming right, but he was a trainer for Ottawa. So every time we'd come into Ottawa or he'd come into Buffalo, you know, they carry the trunk with all their extra stuff, and he'd look down the hall and I'd always look, his name was Woody, and he'd hold up the jersey, and he'd have a 36 Barnaby jersey on the back, and then he'd stick it back in his car, and then I started laughing. So it was always a rumor that I was going there. Yeah. Uh never came to fruition. But was it close up? It was very close after the during the lockout in 04. Yep. Uh I was becoming a free agent. I get traded from the New York Rangers to Colorado. We go there, I do the playoffs there, then there's a lockout. So you still negotiate, but we know there we knew there was a lockout coming. So I had a choice to wait after the lockout or sign before the lockout was over. I got a great deal from the Chicago Blackhawks. I signed, but we were in talks with the Leafs, we were in talks uh with Montreal, uh, Ottawa. So in hindsight, the worst thing I ever did was sign the Chicago Blackhawks. Because I played there one year. Well, we missed the lockout year, played there one year, got locked out, uh, got bought out the year after that. So in hindsight, if you could sign in Toronto or Montreal, two amazing alumni, you set up, you set up. You got a pretty good setup right now, but you'd be like, I have a great setup now, but I don't know, going to Montreal every second weekend for an event or Toronto, pretty damn new.

SPEAKER_00

Razor, I mean you can speak to, I mean, commune, you played in obviously in Calgary in Ottawa, but like the leaf rub.

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Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But like even to this day, in Neil, not like you were here for 10 years, but what was it? No, just two years, yeah.

SPEAKER_06

It's it's that alumni part of it, is it's different. It certainly is. Can you imagine the scrum barney would have on a Saturday night after a big win? Or a big loss, even better.

SPEAKER_02

I played junior in Montreal and Quebec City. I know some places. But it's funny, like Winnipeg, when they're in the playoffs and Calgary, the red model, you see all the people outside, and people are making a big deal. And I played in Buffalo, it's an unbelievable spot. I just miss the playoffs. I don't miss playing hockey every single day because I had to fight all the big guys, right? And it's not fun knowing you're going to work and you might break your orbital bone or break your jaw, your nose, obviously. It's a little crooked. Uh but you look at Buffalo, it's awesome in the playoffs. The fans are going nuts outside. Now they're moving on, you know. It's just absolutely awesome. But look at Montreal when they're in the playoffs. There's like a million people outside. It's not a thousand. It's like a million. It's it's not even a sport in Montreal. It's a cult of religion. So yeah, I I I do regret not playing in in Canada.

SPEAKER_09

If you could pick one, maybe it's Ottawa, but if you could if you if you could pick one team in Canada, which one would it be? You just get one.

SPEAKER_01

The women of Montreal. I'm coming for you. Well played. Sorry, Ottawa. Well played. Yeah, not a chance. Well played.

SPEAKER_00

But it's funny how, you know, we we look at, you know, we've talked about the cons of playing in Canada where it can be a lot when the losing. And, you know, this past year was a real example of that with a lot of teams missing out. But Kami, like, I still have people when I get mentioned, what was there? Oh, I say watch the podcast or listen to the podcast. And people associate you with the flames so much. Yeah. And you were there for how many games? 19?

SPEAKER_09

Uh 18 games in the regular season and 20 in the playoffs. Right. Like former flame race. Yes. I had a couple of really good games. No, it's crazy when I go back to Calgary. Uh I still get it. You know, I go back to Calgary quite a bit because my parents are there, so I'm in and out of there. And people still to this day, you know, especially if my hair's longer, they'll come up and oh, yeah, you were a great flame. And most of the time I'm like, yeah, thanks. Sorry, don't let me know if I'm like, no, no. I laugh. And you know, every once in a while I'll be like, yeah, greatest 18 games of my life. And they like look at me, they're like, What? Like, I played 18 games here. So like, you were here for like three, four years, weren't you? So too.

SPEAKER_02

I'm not gonna lie. I'm sitting at Calgary has an Alzheimer's event, and I always see Tommy out there, and we're always on the patio, we're talking. And it's like, hey Barnes, do you want to stick around for like the alumni tournament that I run? Now I'm like, how the hell are you running an alumni tournament playing 19 games?

SPEAKER_09

I don't even know anyone from the Sabres or going around the play 19 games. That's a real good question. Nobody else wanted to, is the answer to that question. But yeah, it's going on a run in Canada, like we've yeah, we've talked about it. Like playing in Canada was awesome. And I was only there, you know, the cal the Calgary experience was unbelievable from start to finish for me. Now the Ottawa experience was a little different because we were struggling, but we did make the playoffs and led the team in scoring in the postseason for Ottawa. Like we were talking about before we got started here. If I'm leading the team in scoring, we're getting swept.

SPEAKER_02

It reminds me, I've talked to you about it before, but Bobby Holeik said the same thing. And our New York Ranger team, uh, you know, our our payroll in 2000 to 2003 was like between 92 and 94 million dollars. Like we just eclipsed this 25 years later in the in the in the league. Uh Bobby Holeik once said, same to your your your fact, I'm sitting on the bench, we gave him 9.5 million a year for five years. Bobby Holeik's a great player. He's great player. One of my favorite teammates I've ever played. Doesn't drink, just very, just very honest, and he calls it the way it is. But I'm sitting beside him on the bench in practice, and we're working on power play, and they're like, first unit. Bobby looks at me and goes, Barney, did did they not watch me play uh for 10 years? I'm like, I think they did. They gave you 45 sheets, buddy. He's like, if Bobby Holeik, your third line center and first penalty penalty killer, we probably win Stan League Cup, right? Because I'm good at that. If Bobby Holeik, first center, uh first line, first power play unit, we don't make playoffs. He goes, You can book your trip to Aruba now. We're not making playoffs.

SPEAKER_00

That like that is wild that team you're talking about, like Bobby Holmes thinking, like, you know, Bobby Holeik was making Darnell nurse money 25 years ago. Yeah. So chew on that, everybody. But that team, Eric Lindrass, Mark Messier, Brian Leach, Mike Richter, Pavel Burre, like there's a cavalcade, Theo Fleury, like Peter Nedved, like a cavalcade of Hall of Famers, All-Stars, and you missed the playoffs. Like, what the H double hockey sticks happened in there.

SPEAKER_02

We didn't miss the playoffs. We missed them by a long shot three years in a row. Three years in a row. I'm like, everyone's like, I'm so excited, I'm gonna play in the playoffs in MSG. Only playoffs I got in MSG was like the buffet upstairs after we are done. Like, it was awful. And unbelievable place to play, unbelievable place to live, great fans, and and the guys were great. The difference between that team is we just had too many guys doing the same job. We we had everyone was a superstar. And and you you watch, like you need guys on your third guy line to check the other team. Especially back then. Yeah. Different game back then.

SPEAKER_06

Might be able to get away with it now, but back then you needed grind.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely. And and we had we had tough guys. We we had Dale Purant and Chris Simon, Steele McKinnon. That guy's a wacko.

SPEAKER_06

When he was in Hartford, it was a disaster. He should be locked in the cage somewhere. And I love him.

SPEAKER_02

He's a great guy, but animal. Whack. Just whack. Yeah, we we we had a really, really tough team as well. But I think when you go, like you got Pavel Burry that comes in, he's played 24 minutes or 23 minutes his whole life. That's what he's used to. First power play, whatever. You come there and we have Lindros, we have Theo. Everyone's used to playing 23, 24 minutes. They come there. You can only have three guys on the first line. Everyone's been a first liner their whole life, and now they're looking at their stats, and their stats aren't as good because they're only playing 14 or 16 minutes. They aren't on the first power play. So just subconsciously, not that they weren't trying, just I just didn't feel everyone was given that extra effort because of the position that they were put in. Roles are important in hockey. It's it's very important. So great guys wasn't a team that hung out a lot together. Because you're in New York, everyone has like their little cliques, and the Russians had their clicks, and I say the big guys had maybe their little clicks, and some guys didn't get along together. They they were cordial, but it's uh it's really sad that we didn't make the playoffs because we had what a place.

SPEAKER_09

What was what and who was the high salary on that team?

SPEAKER_02

Lindross, I think, at ten.

SPEAKER_09

So Lindross had ten right behind him, Bobby, and then everybody was stacked in there from like eight to ten.

SPEAKER_02

Then it was like five, five to nine, five to eight. Okay. Flurry was eight, five, Leachie was probably five, Mess was probably five, Nedved four. Okay. Um Matthew was at the bottom of the slide.

SPEAKER_03

Just as you just as you jump off.

SPEAKER_02

I get paid too. I signed in Tampa and they trade me there because Torch didn't like me. And I just signed a three-year deal, a good three-year deal for what I was doing. Scored four goals the year before. Used to come in with like my my gun and my mask every second week. I'm like, hold on.

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I want my check.

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Give me all your money. Give me my money. I'm playing three minutes a night making a millionaire, like, this is not real. God bless America. Like, I was like the girl that sings the national anthem in Philly Hart. America. And then I go to New York and like making a millionaire. I'm like, I can't even afford rent here. You gotta live in New Jersey with a turtle smoke. I was part of the bridge and tunnel crowd of my cross. Yeah, that was me. Yeah. All the big guys are like, hey, let's go over dinner. I'm like, no, can't give me like three grand. $1,000 to park your car.

SPEAKER_09

How come if you guys are paying for everything?

SPEAKER_06

Yeah, exactly. Give us some Mayday stories. Not the one, not the training camp, not the fight one. We've got those ones. But for everyone, when these when he's with Brad May, I've done this a few times with the weekends on the trips. And it is literally the funniest thing. For a guy like me that likes to hang out kind of on the periphery. I just wound these two guys up and like sat over here and watched the scene. So give me some May Day stories. Because I know you love him more than anything in the world. He's an unbelievable guy, but you are antagonistic to say the least.

SPEAKER_02

The time I was on the last time was it the one where we fought in training? Correct. That's the one. I have so many. I know that's why I want to go there. A couple might not be allowed to be told, or just we'll move on. Yeah. When I poop my pants in Chicago, we're gonna leave that one out. It's a little long. Dennis Robin was involved, Chris Kelly Hose was involved, a bar was involved, and I got roofies. You can Drake Hotel, red velvet carpet all the way up. Well, just imagine Matthew Barnaby, no pants, pooped down his leg, dress shoes, and easy holding my arm, getting into the hotel. But we're not gonna tell that one because that's embarrassing. I can say the another one in Chicago. It seemed like everything was in Chicago. And I have a great Alabama story, but that cannot be told.

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If you ever, anyone out there, if you ever just see Brad Mae, all you have to go up to him is say, Alabama. Oh, the country to find me.

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So we're in Chicago afternoon game. We play, I don't know if we win or lose. Win or lose, hit the booze, right? So we asked Kelly, we're like, hey, where do we go? It's like four o'clock in the afternoon. He goes, go over to my bar. So we go over to his bar and then we go out after. Sends us to another place. So we go to Walter Payton's, just a sports bar, nothing big, and we have dinner and drinks, and we're talking, and then we see some girls at the bar, we start talking to them, and they're like, oh, what are you guys doing? We're pretty proud, you know. We're trying to try and a little cocky. Not Maisie, but I was. And we're like, oh, you know, like, oh, are you guys gonna fight Probert? We're like, of course we're gonna fight Probert. Scared out of my mind. So I'm like, I'll bet you a thousand dollars, Maisie, that I fight Proby first. He's like, deal. Now we're we're cocked. Now it's it's 11:30 at night, 12 o'clock at night. We're we're we're we're buckled. We're playing, we're we're we're playing the next day.

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Yeah.

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And he literally he literally is like, are we gonna do this? I go, yeah. So we get on the ice and we're on the same line. So Proby comes down in front of the net. I give him a little shot. I'm like, let's go. I'm scared out of my mind. I'm scared out of my mind. How about Probert? Yeah. And he he comes, he's like, okay, let's go. Maisie comes flying out of nowhere and like jumps on top. We're rolling around on the ground. So no fight. We all go to the box. Another guy comes in, so there's two of them, two of us. We're looking there, I'm like, I'm like, it was mine. I had it. It's like, no chance, I got it first. Couple shifts go by, go on, try to the net again. Maisie like face washes them, they're going out. I come flying in the middle. I'm trying to get at him. We're all wrestling around. We all go to the box. Probably looks at us and he's like, What the hell are you guys doing? Killing you both. I look at me and say, I go, bet off. Like this, this, this is this is dead. We don't need a thousand dollars. Yes! For a thousand bucks right now. Like, we don't need a thousand dollars that bad. I'm like, oh yeah, bets off, so neither of us spotted at all. At all. I never went near him again, except for when I was on the bench the one time. Ivan Holinka was our coach. I sit there the whole game. Don't play one shift. Now they got Brad Brown, Jim Cummins, um uh Proby, and I'm yelling from the bench, and I'm yelling, you hippocristian, and he's a very religious guy, obviously. And I'm like, you know, you only touch the Bible in your in your in your in your hotel room, and he's looking over like he's uh sorry, Stu Grimson I'm yelling at him. Grimson, so not everybody. Yeah, yeah. Oh, and Grim Reaper. Grim Reaper. Yeah. They had the Grim Reaper on the team too. So literally, we're down five-nothing with like three minutes left. I haven't played a shift. My skates were untied. I've eaten two hot dogs between periods. I'm not playing. Yeah. Ivan Halenka, great man, God rest his soul, but he didn't appreciate me as a player. Most coaches didn't. It was Taylor Smith's song, Hi, I'm the problem, it's me. So I'm yelling at these guys all game long, and he goes, Barney, you're up. Now, first of all, I never thought that I would have a coach in the National Hockey League that didn't speak English. That was not on my bingo card. Yeah. Watching Hockey Night in Canada growing up. And I'm like, Ivan, F you. He's like, no, Barney. He thought he was being nice. Yeah, he's trying to shift. Give me a shift. I'm not going out there now. Randy, it's gonna take a crane to get me on that ice. You see those four guys? I go on there, I'm not coming back. This is gonna be a four-on-one.

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I'm not looking at it.

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So I actually after the game, I saw Craig Patrick, who was our GM. I'm like, Craig, love you. Thank you. You're amazing. I love the team, love the city. But would you mind like training me? Because my career is gonna dwindle here. He's like, absolutely training me to Tampa. And that didn't work out either. Then they traded me to New York.

SPEAKER_00

That is wild. Um one thing I want to go back to. Um you created the first viral moment for this podcast. I think is that fair? That's very fair. Very fair. There's no question of it. Yes, no question. Well played. Yes. Well played. Let's call this the Ozun, well played or not. But for anybody who hasn't seen it, I highly recommend checking out the conversation we had with you. Uh but asked you about your experience with Dominicash. Yeah. Um greatest goaltender ever, in your words, but wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire. Yeah.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Now you've had a couple of years. And if I ran out of piss, I'd just slide it. And I'd try to miss him. But so with based on that, the amount of people that I've had react to that comment that has gone viral online. Razor, you've had people that talk about that, commie, people uh bring it up. So I'm sure people bring it up with you. What have your colleagues said? People who've played, how are they like, hey, that is foul, or my God, thanks for speaking up. Well played or not, Barney.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you know what? Like the mayonnaise of the world, the robberies of the world, a lot of people in Buffalo, because uh if we go back, you know, I retired 18 years ago. Played in Buffalo last in 99, but I lived there as well. So I once threatened him in Sports Illustrated issue. Like going back to there, yeah. I do events, Alzheimer's and heart and stroke, all around the country, and and they've seen that that viral moment, that that clip, and they're like, Did you really hate Dom? Is he really that bad a guy? The answer unequivocally is yes, he is that bad a guy. Greatest walking her of all time. I'll stand by that. Anyone can have Dominic, I mean uh Martin Brodeur or Patrick Waugh. And I think you have those loyalties when you win a standing cup of Wilkenner. Yeah, sure, sure. Can't worry. I don't think he's best of all time, but you're always gonna have to have my own. That's my quarterback. But yeah, if if if you're if if you're under Brodeur or you want a cup with Wah, I understand it. Yeah. Six Vesna trophies, this guy. I mean, this guy was un unbelievable. And a hard, hard worker. I can't take that away. Just treat people just because you're an athlete, you make a lot of money, and you're in like that guy's a star in Czechoslovakia. Like that guy in Czechia now. I get the bias if you want a Stanley Cup with Murray Broder. I I get it if you want it with Patrick Wuhan. You think that they're the best coaltender of all time. Listen. It's it's it's just a personal thing for me that he is the best. Six heart trophies, uh sorry, six Vesna trophies. To me, by far the best that's ever played. If it was one game, what I saw from him, but as a person, no, he's not a good person. Like we need to force him to sign autographs at the at the end of the year. He's like, ah, I I just signed two. I just signed two. I'm like, sit the hell down. Razor would come in, maybe. We have charities. Like, we need 10 things signed, and kind of force him to, but he didn't want to do it. He's just not a he's just not a great person. That's that's the easiest way to put it without going too far in depth. But I think the teammates agree?

SPEAKER_00

Like the teammates.

SPEAKER_02

So people, because people, he's played around. He's played around 20 years. R Rob Ray knows I hate him. Brad May knows I hate him. Derek Plant knows I hate him. I I'd say everyone that wasn't Czech didn't like him. Now, some people tolerate him or won't say it publicly. That's just not my style. My mom always told me if you don't have anything good to say, don't say it or say it right to their face. And I'm gonna say it, so I'm gonna say it right to your face. If I don't like you, I'm gonna tell you right now, and and it's like there's guys that I've I've I've had things out with them, and they'll shake their hands like 20 years later. And I'm like, don't shake my hand. You you don't like me. I don't like you, so why pretend? Let's just walk away or just avoid each other. Like it's not a big deal. It's just not in my in my DNA. But we can go back to like they did a we used to have a robe. There was a robe for the fighters. Our our our trainer, Jimmy Pizzatelli. A what? A robe. Oh, okay. It was like a boxing robe. Like a boxing room. You know, a boxers come in and they got their robe and their name and their number. It was a big deal for for the fighters. Like Val James for the minors had one when he was called up. Razor had one. Uh Brad May had one. Dominic got one as a goalie tighter because he was so damn good. So Sports Illustrated did this thing on on the robe. And I led the league in penalty minutes of the year before with 335. And they were talking about this robe. And I want to get a robe. So they did a sports illustrated thing, and they're holding me, Brad May, and Dominic Haskick in his weird face, because you never know what's going through that mind. Trust me, there should be a movie on him. And it's Hannibal Lecter. Like that's that's the movie. Just call it Dominic Hassock. And he's like holding like the robe on a stick. Now I had my shirt off, so I did like 100 points before the thing. My arms are jacked, and I got a little arms. I looked jacked. Girls are gonna see this, right?

SPEAKER_01

So I'm like, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And uh so they did this thing, but then they did a full article with me, and I said, you know, well, I'm gonna run Dominic Hasick in training camp because I don't like him. And he's on my team. This is the best goaltender in the world. So this comes out everywhere, our whole family, what? Our GM literally comes down, and in summary, he's like, he got brought in, he said, What are you doing? I said, you know, you know I hate him, right? I hate this dude. So he's your goal. I said, he faked an injury against Ottawa in game three for the series. Steve Shields comes in and plays great. He chokes Jim Kelly, our our writer, who I love, who's 65 years old, chokes him because Jim Kelly wrote that he saw him running out of the rink in Ottawa with Frank Musile going to a bar. Oh true.

SPEAKER_08

And he was supposed to be hurt.

SPEAKER_02

And yeah, I cannot play. I cannot play. Yeah, you we know you cannot play because you don't want Teddy Nolan to do well and you want him fired, and John Muckler kind of pitted them both against each other. So yeah, I said I was gonna run him. Now, little caveat to the story. GM comes down, I had 43 points that year. It's not quite like you're 29. Again, 43, we're probably not winning St. Land. We didn't have Donovan, but the GM comes down, he's like, Barney, what are you doing? I said, You know I hate him. And I'm I'm gonna run him. No problem. He goes, You can't do that. He goes, how about? How about? And then the president comes down, Doug Moss. How about you had a $50,000 bonus for 50 points, but you mass missed the last seven games. He goes, How about you don't run them and we give you your bonus? No.

SPEAKER_01

I'm a businessman.

SPEAKER_02

I'm a businessman. Business decision. Yeah, okay.

SPEAKER_09

Seems like a pretty good deal. Deal. Done.

SPEAKER_02

Cash that check. Probably go to Bahamas. You said a golf clubs, all right? Get the weight purse. Thanks, Don. That's perfect. So first scrimmage, I'm against him, and I go to the crease and I slash him right on the hand. Lindy Ruff loses his mind. Now, I threw my skate through the TV the year before because me and Razor and we we we just called our whole team a debacle. And I slashed him. He blows the whistle and he comes flying in. He's like, You said you weren't, you I said, I said I wasn't gonna run him. Never said I wasn't gonna slash him. But for 50 grand more. Yeah, I won't two-hand him again. I won't slash him. So they literally kicked me off the ice, trying to go in the room. And I had already asked to be traded in the summer and move on and uh all that. But it took me another year and a half to get traded from there. So long-winded story. Yes, I still wouldn't piss on him if he was on fire.

SPEAKER_00

Real quick, uh I want to wind this down by We touched on this when we were chatting off camera, but I forgot that you got moved before that Sabres Cup final. Is that like is there an extension to what you were just talking about that comes from that? Because you said we were talking, you said, there's a story there. Yeah. Well, yeah, like that that whole year.

SPEAKER_02

I I asked that year, that that year was 98. That if we go back a year. Yeah. So this happened in 98, the training camp thing and all that.

SPEAKER_00

Because the senator series is 97, where Hashik has the whole incident with the Jim Kelly, the reporter, and now here we are into 97, 98.

SPEAKER_02

So that happens. Yeah. So now I don't like him, right? Now I don't like him. Now I've already seen him the way he treats people and all that. That that was side, kind of looked past it a little bit, but he's just he's just a rude person. Going to 98, training camp, this is when this happens. So that whole year 98, I'm battling with Lindy Ruff, I'm asking to be traded. I'm I threw my skate through our TV. We remember the big thick. Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. They weren't flat screening. Yeah, no, we're talking 1990s, televisions were so different. I don't know if you remember Dixon Ward, but Dixon Ward, like, I'm losing my mind. And they he's like, Lindy's like, what do you want? I go, I told you, I want to be traded. He's like, go upstairs. I go, I have. I've gone up four times. What do I have to do? So Dixon literally, I'm getting dressed and going upstairs, and he's literally sitting in front, looking at the TV as just a skate right in the middle of it. Come on. He lodged it. No, no, he after. He just went and sat like he was pretending to watch TV. And then he was like, You're gonna pay for that TV. I go, I will when you trade me. Like pretty simple. So go through that whole 98 year, I'm expecting to get traded every single week. Come to trade deadline, doesn't happen. They trade Jason Daw instead. He never wanted to be traded, they traded him. So they come to me, they're like, hey, we're not trading you. Um do you want to play or do you wanna do you want to sit out? But if you're if you're gonna play, you buy in. I was like, yeah, I I want to play for my teammates. Like, it's not it's nothing with my teammates, just one guy essentially. But if I get on the ice, I'm gonna play hard. Now I didn't have a good year that year. I think I had five goals and 20 points. A couple injuries come. We played Montreal first round of the playoffs. Not a big deal. First ever hat trick on Mother's Day. We knocked him out first and only, I should say. First and only, it was in an empty net. Um but yeah, another like score that, have a great, great run. Uh we get to the conference finals, we lose to Washington, um, had 13 points in 15 games in the playoffs. It was a really, really run. Yeah. But at the end of the year, they come to me and they're like, extension. You want to I'm like, no, no, I I told you guys, I I still want to be traded. Yeah. Like a great run, awesome. Yeah. It's time. Like so much has happened here. I think it's time for me to go somewhere else. So again, next year, 99, I get traded in March. To the Pittsburgh Calvin.

SPEAKER_09

Pittsburgh Congress, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It was either Pittsburgh, um, Boston, or Calgary, or or Tampa too. End up being uh Pittsburgh for Stu Barnes. When you get traded to a team, you always want the other guy to play like crap, right? It's like it's like breaking up with your ex. You know, you want her to date a guy that makes less money than you, and ugly, smaller, weaner than you, and and fatter than you. Those are the three things. Now, my ex-wife married a guy a little older, worth five billion dollars, and I haven't seen the other part. I don't plan to but so a little the jealousy just said that. So Stu goes there and he doesn't score for like 15 games. I go there, I score on DOM first game like a week later.

SPEAKER_08

Oh, that must have felt good.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, I'm I'm jumping around like I scored my 76th as a rookie like Solania, like sixth bull of the year, you know, in March. Yeah. And uh yeah, so Stu goes there. I'm a fan favorite in Pittsburgh, love it there. Uh, but I had an off hook coach, but we'll get to that another day. Kevin Constantine, another horrible human being. But yes, they they go on a run in the playoffs. We play Toronto second round, we lose to Toronto. They played Toronto in the conference final and they beat them. Now they're in the Stanley Cup final. Yeah. We had already traded Brad May, my best friend and Rob Ray was still there. But game seven, game seven of the Stanley Cup, or game six, Stanley Cup final, me and Brad are in Buffalo, we're in a suite, and we're watching that game. You're at the game? We're at the game in a suite. Okay. Now we are, you know, it's overtime. That game went late. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yeah, yeah, certainly did.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We weren't drinking singles either. And it it gets cooling, gets cooling. Now. Everyone's gonna say no goal, no goal. And I think if you look at it, it probably is a no goal. I say it's a goal.

SPEAKER_09

Of course it is. I was gonna ask you a question that answered it.

SPEAKER_02

Can you imagine? Now Bradley's different. He never asked to get traded. Okay, we they traded for Jeff Sanderson for Maisie. Well, what a steal. What a steal. The one goal, mate goal. But we've got Jeff Sanderson who's a great player. But me and Maisie are up there. And can you imagine asking to get traded from a team?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And they win the Stanley Cup three months later.

SPEAKER_05

That would stink. That would stink. That would and you were in the building. And you're in the building. I can't believe you were in the building.

SPEAKER_02

But it was game six. Yeah. It was game six, so they couldn't win it that night.

unknown

Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_08

Yeah, yeah, okay. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And everyone's like, no one knew what really happened. And me and Maze are like, you could hear a pin drop in that building. Yeah. And me and Maze are like.

SPEAKER_03

We go to go to the back of the suite. We're like, we're just taking it.

SPEAKER_04

Fire popping it. We go to the bar that they all go to, and we're like, tough one, eh, boy.

SPEAKER_02

Just unbelievable. We got so drunk. We were so happy. We walked, we walked to our tea time the next day. At like eight in the morning, we left the bar and walked to our tea time. Oh, we had an unbelievable. Yes, it's a goal. I love Brett Hull. I love, love Brett Hull. I hate it for the city of Buffalo, hate it for the guys. But listen, again, you never ask to get trained and hope another team does not.

SPEAKER_00

I really hope I hope things go really well for the ones that have gone. I feel like we uh once again have only scratched the surface. But thank you so much for doing this. Yeah, thanks, Barney. Love you guys. Ottawa 613. We're just gone differently.

SPEAKER_02

Um there you go. Matthew Barnaby. I got the 613 tattoo because I always forget. I got concussion. Like, what's my number? 613. Gotta put the rest of it on. That's amazing.

SPEAKER_00

I'd never noticed that before. Uh he is Matthew Barnaby for Kami for Razor. I'm James Tabalski. Be sure to like and subscribe to our YouTube page for Ozoon. This is the Clearing the Craze podcast, powered by Ozoon. Well played.