Cookbook Obscura

S02E06 - Noah Levine and the Chicken Breast Strips

Shannon Devido, Aubrie Williams, Ralph Andracchio Season 2 Episode 5

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This season's cookbook is 50 Shades of Chicken. This New York Times Best Seller is the parody cookbook you didn't know you needed, and we're here to show you some of the surprisingly good recipes from the book.

This week we're talking about Taylor Swift drag shows, keeping kosher, coping with politics, alien invasions, Lion King notaries, and Julia Child as the other woman with the very funny Noah Levine. Noah is a theater artist, improviser, and podcast host based in Philly. His shows include Noah's No-Show Show, The N Crowd, The Talkin' 2024 podcast, and Dying Message: The Detective Anime Mystery Podcast. He would marry stuffing if he could. 

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Ralph

It's Cookbook Obscura. This show is all about finding an odd recipe, grabbing an odd friend, and eating odd food together. This week, our guest is Noah Levine. Noah is a theater artist, improviser, and podcast host based in Philly. His shows include Noah's No Show Show, The N Crowd, The Talkin' 2024 Podcast, and Dying Message, the Detective Anime Mystery Podcast. So, um... Aubrie, you will be very proud of me because over the weekend, I went to a drag Taylor Swift brunch.

Aubrie

Oh my God, that's amazing. Where was it?

Ralph

At City Winery.

Aubrie

Oh, nice.

Ralph

Yeah, it was impressive. Four, count them, four drag queens, all different versions of Taylor Swift. It was an hour and a half of music. I don't know the lyrics too, but everybody else was having a lot of fun. People were dressed as different tailors. The only one I recognized was the one where she was wearing like a tie-dye t-shirt and like glasses. Oh,

Aubrie

Maybe lover, like you need to calm down? I don't know.

Ralph

I don't know. I don't know. I'm... woefully unprepared for Taylor. But it was fun. It was a lot. Everybody was into it. I gave a lot of ones to the Queens and they really enjoyed it. So.

Aubrie

That's amazing.

Shannon

Did you get 13 ones? Oh yeah. 13 ones. That's

Ralph

I didn't. I only had 10. Why? Should I have given three more?

Aubrie

That's her lucky number and her birthday. Also. What? Sisters are huge Taylor fans. So I know. Oh, wait. Sorry, we're having some sound issues here. Hold, please. So what I was saying, so Taylor's, I don't know what just happened, but. Oh no, one of the cats escaped. This is the most chaotic opening. Oh no. They're all in, right? Cool. Which cat? Hootie, Maya. Who do you think? We just saw Dorito, so I don't think it's him. Yeah. She often is right by the door, but she's never made a move. So, but yes, Taylor's lucky number is 13. When you go to a concert, you like paint a 13 on your hand. That's the, that's.

Ralph

That sounds like a cult to me.

Aubrie

It's a cult, but like a fun one. It is a cult. It's like a fun, cool cult.

Ralph

That's what they all say.

Aubrie

Very easy listening cult.

Ralph

Sure. Music's better than most cults, I will say.

Aubrie

Very plaid, very chill.

Ralph

And one of the queens, the host made up the lyrics to, look what you made me do. Look what you made me do. It was about how she eats cheese, but it doesn't work well for her. So it was like, I think I have to poop. I think I have, and it was a whole song about her eating cheese and not making it to the bathroom in time. It was great.

Aubrie

Oh my God.

Ralph

Swifties were into it. Super relatable. Yeah. Super relatable.

Aubrie

That's amazing. I think I saw that advertised. I wish I would have known you were going. I want to...

Ralph

It was a last minute thing. We, on Thanksgiving, my brother and sister-in-law and their neighbors were like, oh, we're going to this thing. You guys should go. And we're like, okay, great. And like literally bought the tickets at that second. So it was two days later that we went.

Aubrie

Nice.

Ralph

It was great.

Aubrie

I loved it. Shan, have you seen any shows of late? Have you seen any like... I haven't seen any drag shows of late. I miss them. What was my last? I went to a Harry Potter themed one once. That was really fun. Yeah. It was very fun.

Shannon

I don't think I've ever been to one.

Aubrie

No?

Shannon

They look very fun.

Aubrie

Yeah, we gotta go.

Shannon

We don't have any in Bucks County. Yeah, that's not

Ralph

Drag center of the world, Bucks County, Pennsylvania.

Aubrie

You heard it here first.

Shannon

You heard it here first.

Ralph

Breaking news on the Cookbook Obscura podcast.

Aubrie

They have a drag brunch at the Panera in the shopping center.

Shannon

In Feasterville.

Ralph

Feasterville, the epicenter.

Shannon

The epicenter of drag brunches and Paneras.

Ralph

Speaking of LGBTQ plus.

Aubrie

That's what all the good words say.

Ralph

Speaking of LGBTQ plus... Our guest today, not a drag queen, I don't think, but he's patiently waiting in the wings. Oh, let me introduce him for realsies, because I have his bio up and running. Another big get for the holidays, folks. Just so you know, we're batting 1,000 on the show. He's a theater artist, an improviser, podcast host. He has a couple podcasts. One of them, I was on the Talkin' 2024 podcast, which we're going to get into. Also, Dying Message, the detective anime mystery podcast I was also on. It was a lot of fun. And now he is on our show. Please give a warm... Internet, welcome to Noah Levine. Noah!

Aubrie

Hello, Noah! Thank you!

Noah

Thanks for having me. Yeah, it is. I got your name wrong when you were on my podcast. It's the ethnic names. Yeah. Oh my gosh. How are you doing? I'm doing well. Oh my goodness. We're in the December season. The holidays are so close that why not be already here? Right. Thanksgiving happened just five days ago. Yes, it was. Oh, my God. Feels like yesterday. Yeah, yeah. And I cooked chicken for maybe the first time in my life.

Aubrie

Whoa.

Noah

I don't know if I've ever cooked it before.

Ralph

You just eat it raw, usually.

Noah

No, no, no. I've just, you know, been around other people that have done the cooking of the chicken. I've cooked many other things. Are you averse to chicken or you just haven't cooked it? So we don't eat a lot of meat. I grew up keeping kosher and I still keep some degree of kosher. So I sought out kosher chicken for this dish. And most of the time we just do vegetarian fish cooking. So I've cooked fish. I've cooked vegetables. I've cooked soy proteins, seitan

Aubrie

Ooh, nice.

Ralph

But never chicken.

Aubrie

Thank you for doing it for us.

Noah

Yeah.

Aubrie

Sorry.

Noah

Well, when you have a cookbook where every recipe is chicken, the alternative is what? To not be sexy?

Aubrie

Yeah, yeah.

Shannon

That's not an alternative.

Ralph

That's not the alternative.

Speaker 01

You can use any alternative you want, though.

Ralph

So forgive my lack of knowledge, but this is what the show is here for, for learning. So when you keep kosher, I thought that just meant for red meat. That means any meat and dairy. Y

Noah

Yea h, so meat includes red meat and chicken, quail meat. Duck, goose, other poultries.

Ralph

All right, that's way too fancy for the show.

Noah

Yeah, so it is strange because you can't have a chicken parmesan, and yet the literal verse in the Bible that all of this is derived from is about boiling a kid in its mother's milk, and eggs do not produce milk nor cheese, or chickens don't produce milk or cheese, but... Yeah. Meat came to be, chicken came to be regarded as meat and now, yeah, no chicken parms.

Ralph

Now we're all paying for it. What about fish? Does that count?

Noah

Oh boy. No, but sort of, sometimes.

Ralph

I didn't mean to open up a can of worms, sorry.

Shannon

Sometimes?

Noah

No, traditionally you're supposed to keep the meat separate from the fish. Like people follow more or less of these rules depending on how observant they are. Yeah. but no fish you can have with dairy and meat you can't. So fish is not meat.

Ralph

Okay.

Shannon

So can you have fish parmesan?

Noah

Sure.

Shannon

I'm just saying, try it. Yeah.

Noah

I have put cheese on a salmon burger and that worked.

Shannon

Same thing.

Aubrie

Nice. So yeah, basically salmon parmesan.

Shannon

It's exactly the same. There's a reason I'm not allowed to cook,

Noah

I think people go to eggplant parmesan before they start parmesan-ing up the salmon or the tuna.

Aubrie

Fair.

Noah

One thing I do enjoy when I was having them was McDonald's makes a really great filet of fish and that has cheese on it. So yeah, I'm a sucker for a good filet of fish. Yeah, we would go to McDonald's and like a family of five getting five Filet-O-Fish sandwiches.

Aubrie

That's amazing.

Ralph

No shame in any of that.

Aubrie

I've never had one, weirdly.

Shannon

Not even on Lent?

Aubrie

No, we just had pizza in my family. That's our go to.

Ralph

That's nice. Yeah. So going back to your bio, Talkin' 2024 is your ongoing, as of this recording, your ongoing year-long podcast, which I thought you were insane for trying, but it was a lot of fun to be a part of. Can you tell our listeners a little bit about the concept and the execution of said podcast?

Noah

Yeah, so I am... motivated to do lots of strange things, and I like marathons, and I like calendars? So the idea that I developed and was really excited about was to record a whole year's worth of podcasts in a row. and figuring out and having them released like one week at a time throughout the whole year. And as I figured out, wanted to figure out what to do with that, it's like, well, for releasing them one week of the year, why don't we just talk about what's happening that week? And then what happens is you're recording all of them over three days in November for an entire year, but you have no way of knowing what's going to be happening that year. Our political commentary was very vague. which I think was helpful because it was better than listening to actual political commentary on things that were actually occurring. And we talked about some movies that got released and we talked about some movies that may never get made that were supposed to be released this year. Um, and yeah, it was three days in a row, like morning till night, 53 different guests. Ralph was number three. So his episode came out in January and we have four episodes left to release. So I, you can tell that like my brain is working differently than it was 49 episodes ago. Um, so it's a really, it's really fun time to kind of tune in hear what's happening that week we think, meet a new person and hang out and chat and, uh, Yeah, a lot of people that came by that helped. Each season, there was a different co-host that came for 13 episodes. So they all brought their own segment and their own personality and kind of filled in for me when I was like, what it... What page are we on? What day is it?

Ralph

What page of the calendar? Yeah, I was third. So I was there when you were all fresh faced and excited about what would come. So I'm glad I was there for that and not the tail end where everybody was dragging themselves to the microphone. My episode was like the week of January 14th, I think. So it was like, we talked about the Emmys a lot and all that other stuff because they happen around that.

Noah

Your anniversary.

Ralph

My anniversary. That's right. That happened that week. That was nice. What else? Oh, yeah. what the week of the election that just passed. Oh my God. We're not going to, we're not going to go too deep into that, but was there, was there any, did you have any predictions that came true from that week?

Noah

I always forgot to like nail people down on predictions. Sometimes we try to predict the weather. So, I mean, we, we were like Biden and Trump, who's going to win, who's going to win between Biden and Trump. Oh, that's right. It was, this was, you know, November 26th when we recorded the episode and, you know mostly just how do you cope with politics and you know that sort of thing did we predict anything no I think the biggest thing I predicted was that occasionally I would refuse to be certain about anything and so I was like well we don't know who's going to win the primary we don't know what's going to be happening because a year ago we were so certain already about what was going to happen but that's not fun.

Ralph

No, it is not. Speaking of predictions, there was a prediction online, mainly on TikTok, because that's where I live right now. But there was a prediction that today, December 3rd, when we were recording this, there was supposed to be this giant alien sky battle. I don't know if anybody else heard of this. This guy made a prediction that there was supposed to be this giant alien, not invasion, but some big pitched battle was supposed to happen over the skies of the United States. And I mean, there's still time, it's only 7.30, but you know, I don't know. How do you feel about aliens and wanting them to have a battle over the United States?

Noah

I think it would be interesting to know about aliens, but we have everything to fear and nothing to gain. I don't know if that's true. That sounds like a phrase someone has said.

Ralph

I think, wasn't it nothing to fear and everything to gain? Well, I mean, either way it works for aliens.

Noah

But yeah, you just hope that they're like the tiny kind or really nice, that they have a cookbook of 50 chicken recipes and not a cookbook of human recipes.

Aubrie

Yeah. I hope they're the pizza planet aliens personally, but that's just me. They're tiny and nice. That's why I kind of wanted to, you know.

Ralph

Absolutely. Yeah,

Aubrie

They could be cool.

Ralph

And also, well, these aliens are coming from the ocean. So they're not technically aliens. They're earthlings. I don't know. We could do a whole podcast about it.

Shannon

Ralph, what are you watching?

Aubrie

We changed our podcast. You heard it here first. Ocean aliens. The ocean alien saga.

Shannon

Are you sure you just weren't watching Aquaman?

Ralph Andracchio

Maybe.

Aubrie

Might just be Aquaman.

Ralph

Maybe. Not to step on any DC toes, DC comics, but Aquaman, especially the second one, no, I don't recommend it. Thumbs down. Not great.

Shannon

No, it's not.

Ralph

Jason Momoa, always wonderful.

Shannon

Absolutely.

Ralph

But, you know, no.

Shannon

There's been better... movies.

Noah

Better movies about um people swimming in the sea probably.

Aubrie

Yeah what was the way there was one with like Jodie Foster where she's a coach it's called like ne...

Ralph

Oh uh uh Nyad.

Aubrie

Oh yeah I know that yes it's not like it's not like a comic book movie but that's the only movie I could think of that had a person swimming.

Ralph

Right.

Shannon

I mean not Splash Or the Little Mermaid.

Aubrie

Oh, Splash, yeah. Well, there was some, yeah, he falls overboard.

Shannon

Well, yeah, she becomes human. It's a whole thing. You know, it doesn't matter. The point is, there are better movies about people swimming in the ocean.

Noah

Yeah, Ralph, was TikTok predicting the final climactic battle scene from The Little Mermaid?

Ralph

Oh, possibly. With Ursula? Yeah. Oh, that would be great.

Noah

Ursula and Triton coming out of the Ocean.

Aubrie

They were aliens this whole time. That's wild.

Ralph

Were Ursula and Triton like a thing? Did they ever date?

Aubrie

Th ere was some tension, I feel.

Shannon

There's definitely tension. I mean, maybe.

Ralph

Yeah.

Noah

Does every Disney villain date the father of the protagonist? Like secretly in the backstory?

Ralph

Well, Scar and Mufasa were brothers.

Aubrie

Yeah.

Shannon

So he definitely could have slept with...

Noah

I think adopted. Oh, well then. Okay. Then they probably slept together. Because the, the prequel movie is coming out this week. The live action Mufasa film.

Ralph

Can we stop it?

Shannon

We're about to find out.

Aubrie

It's wild. It's wild.

Ralph

All remakes are

Aubrie

Yeah.

Shannon

I have questions. Who's doing, who's signing the adoption papers? Like, they live in the Sahara. I just have questions.

Aubrie

Yeah, rightfully so.

Shannon

Like, who said they were, like, who adopted it? Like, did Rafiki, like, is Rafiki, like, the adoption coordinator? Like, I just have...

Ralph

He's a notary.

Shannon

He's a notary, right? Yeah.

Noah

He does stamp things.

Shannon

All right, exactly. Well, yeah.

Aubrie

Timon and Pumbaa could have an agency.

Ralph

.Oh, shit, that is true.

Aubrie

Oh, yeah.

Noah

Not enough notaries live in trees.

Shannon

That's just life. That's the life truth.

Aubrie

All right, friends, should we get to the recipe?

Ralph

Yes.

Aubrie

Should we eat and chat some more? Tonight we cooked chicken breast strips with balsamic and rosemary. Serves two to four, unless you severely minimize the recipe like I did. So yeah, we got some garlic cloves, we got some balsamic vinegar, some fresh rosemary, some kosher salt, some red pepper flakes, some olive oil, and some chicken, as always.

Ralph

This is the simplest recipe I think we've done. Yeah,

Aubrie

Yeah, so thank you for choosing it, because it can get tricky.

Noah

Yeah, it definitely had half as many Ingredients as some of the other options. And I was like, I don't have a ton of leftover ingredients.

Aubrie

Fair. Yeah, I only had to get rosemary because we've cooked so many now that I have like a bunch of cinnamon sticks. I have like the dumbest things in the history of everything.

Ralph

But it's good to have a stocked kitchen like that.

Aubrie

Yeah. No, and it comes in handy when you're cooking like for 10 episodes. So usually there'll be some double up.

Ralph

That's true.

Noah

Mine is over here.

Ralph

Alright, I'm going

Aubrie

You're going in? Yeah, mine's severely cold.

Noah

I arranged mine silly on a plate.

Aubrie

That's so good!

Noah

Well...

Aubrie

That's so good! Oh my god, I love it.

Noah

I did a terrible job of showing it on the webcam, but...

Aubrie

Mine looks like jerky. It's like, cause I got the, I got the bagged like chick'n. I

Ralph

I usually do it pretty, but mine today, I was just.

Aubrie

It looks great.

Ralph

Tastes good.

Aubrie

Mine looks like seitan, so.

Noah

But it's tiny.

Aubrie

What it is.

Noah

Do you think this recipe is exactly as advertised? At least how it turned out?

Ralph

No.

Aubrie

Um, well, I didn't do the right thing. So not for me.

Ralph

Oh yeah. You want to share your chicken saga?

Aubrie

Oh yeah. So I bought chicken this morning, um, at the Aldi. Sorry, Aldi. I'm going to put you on blast. Um, but my mom, so I bought chicken at the Aldi came home. It looked fine. It looked exact. Cause I do, I like look underneath, make sure there's no like weird blood spots. There can be, I guess, but I'm just like, Let's get something that looks safe because it's already risky cooking it right before this. And so I just put it in the fridge. I did not open the package until I had to marinate it and thank God we had to marinate this one because it gave me a few hours to run out to a store again in the freezing cold and find a replacement. And you know what? I was going to get chicken, but I was scathed by it. So I just got this chicken substitute from the Sprouts and it's actually pretty good. I like the flavoring of it. Yeah, it's nice. But my mom was like, Maybe someone put it in their cart and like had, I was like, it felt cold though. So like if some, if the employees are putting the chicken back that they're like finding on the shelves, like we got a real problem. Like, I don't think that's a real thing, but I don't know. I had bad chicken and it was good till December 10th. I checked those dates first off.

Noah

2023.

Aubrie

Yeah. 2019.

Ralph

I just feel like there wasn't enough of the marinade. Yeah. For a whole pound of chicken, it was like a razor-thin coating, a whisper of a coating on all the chicken.

Noah

We had 1.33 pounds of chicken, so I was increasing liquids anyway. And then, yeah, I added a little more vinegar to kind of wetten it.

Aubrie

Nice.

Noah

To sit.

Aubrie

Yeah, your pieces look, like, nice and hearty.

Ralph

It is delicious, though. It's not, like, overpowering.

Aubrie

Yeah, I'm not getting much rosemary on mine. I wonder if it's because it's like fake chicken. It didn't sop it up. But it tastes like I can taste a lot of salt because it called for a lot of salt and not a lot of liquid. So it kind of tastes soy saucy to me.

Noah

Yeah.

Aubrie

Which is crazy.

Noah

Yeah, I marinated mine overnight. So it's got that next day flavor. Y But I did add some salt and pepper in the pan because I wasn't getting as much from the salt. O

Aubrie

Okay.

Ralph

Are you a seasoner? Do you like a lot of flavor on your food?

Noah

That's also true. I could have put hot sauce on this, but we gotta... We got to let the authors of this cookbook take us on the sensual journey as they intended.

Ralph

As the editors intended.

Aubrie

Yeah, yeah.

Noah

Is there a name on the cookbook? Like, is it attributed to a person?

Aubrie

F.L. Fowler. F.L. Wait, wait. I was going to say J.K. Fowling. That's actually pretty good.

Noah

Now that sounds like a pseudonym.

Aubrie

Yes, it is. I don't think anyone actually attached their name to this.

Ralph

Speaking of sensual journey, there's usually in this cookbook, there's always a erotic story. Erotic is in quotes and scare quotes, a story that goes along with one, each one. And our resident thespian, Shannon DeVito, usually reads them while we're eating. Do you have one for us tonight, Shannon?

Shannon

I do. Yeah, you sent it to me and I opened it up as you started to eat. And I want to say, I skimmed ahead and I'm sorry in advance for what's about to happen. So anyway, yeah, there's a story that is always written about the recipe. And since I am world's worst cook, world's most mediocre actor, I am reading this, the story. So I, here we go. The name of this story today is called Chicken Striptease.

Aubrie

There it is.

Shannon

So get ready. All right. Okay. I've been prevailed upon in ways I've never imagined. I've agreed to everything so far, but now it's my turn. I want more. I want to be dinner. I want it to taste like me. I want to be craved. He's obsessed with his kinky implements, his techniques, his condiments. I prefer to think, this is messed up. But I can see it's the right thing for him. My mind wanders to the 15 previous ingredients. Your whole control freak foodie thing, it was because of her, that woman, Mrs. Child. My mood has darkened. Julia opened my eyes to many important things, he explained. In fact, I'd still be eating frozen dinners if it weren't for her. Frozen dinners? The thought of my poor, fucked up foodie eating cold tater tots as a boy breaks my heart. Not taters, baby, never again. All right. I'll bet she never taught you this.

Aubrie

Oh no.

Shannon

Strip my breasts, Blades, I command softly, now. His eyes widen, craving, thickens in the air around us like wine reduction. I can tell he's thinking what he might do to my ample white flesh. Well, he's just gonna have to think a little longer because I have to marinate. So what will it be? Cupped in warm tortilla, slicked with vinaigrette, rubbed with hot spice. We won't need a recipe for what we're about to do. Yep. That was the story they wrote for this recipe.

Noah

So in the lore of this cookbook, they've turned the woman into the chicken.

Aubrie

Yes. Yes.

Shannon

It is from the chicken's POV.

Aubrie

Yes. And a human person is supposedly fucking this chicken. We just gotta, you know?

Shannon

You're not wrong. You're not wrong.

Noah

So when I was thinking about this cookbook, the most prominent questions in my mind were, did they expect anybody to actually make these recipes? And do people actually eat from this cookbook? Who aren't recording a podcast.

Ralph

Yes, because Aubrie got me this cookbook secondhand and there are notes in this cookbook.

Aubrie

Yes.

Ralph

Somebody wrote excellent or tasty or delicious on some of these recipes. So there was somebody who did own this cookbook, loved this cookbook, cooked from this cookbook and thought it was delicious.

Noah

Then why'd they get rid of it?

Aubrie

They might have saved, maybe they took pictures of their favorites. Maybe they were like, we wrote it down in our old timey recipe book. And it's just, they're like mom's famous chicken recipe. And it's really like some smutty chicken from Fifty Shades of Chicken.

Shannon

They cooked it so many times that it's all committed to memory.

Ralph

We, we, uh, we, uh, hope everybody will go out and actually buy the cookbook because we're doing it this whole season and it's actually, the food has been super tasty. So everyone do not steal the recipes, go get the cookbook support, support the people that we are, um, rummaging through their book for entertainment. But also, uh, As Shannon was reading that story, I just heard a reference to Julia Child. Is Julia Child like now the canon villain in this cookbook story? I

Shannon

I think so. Because we have not heard her mentioned yet. And I feel like that is now currently the case.

Aubrie

Yeah.

Ralph

Yeah.

Aubrie

Or is she the other woman? Because it's like a sex, I don't know. He was like my beloved! Like, right?

Ralph

Yeah.

Aubrie

I don't know. Feels like an, it's Fifty Shades of Gray.

Shannon

Like an ex.

Aubrie

So I'm like, like the villains are really just like weird exes or...

Shannon

Maybe.

Noah

Yeah. Your whole control freak foodie thing, it was because of her, that woman, Mrs. Child.

Aubrie

That's, that's wild.

Shannon

Like is the, is he trying to say that like he had an affair with Julia Child? Like, I just, I have so many questions for the author of this book. I really need to find them.

Aubrie

FL Fowler, show yourself.

Noah

This is where the metaphor falls apart. Because having seen the first two Fifty Shades of Grey movies, but not read the books, in a like, oh, let's watch them as a group kind of party idea. Should I explain that more? Y

Ralph

Yes, please. Please.

Noah

In a like, we're going to watch like a bad movie night kind of situation. Although we did have a friend come in the first time who does BDSM and like debunk slash explain some things from the first film.

Aubrie

Oh, that's fun.

Noah

But so it is like he had this older woman who kind of had this relationship with him when he was too young. And don't ask questions about that. And now he's doing it to her. So this doesn't make sense in the cookbook because she did not cut him into pieces, soak him in rosemary overnight and simmer and saute him in the pan.

Ralph

Right.

Noah

Not literally.

Shannon

Right. Metaphorically.

Aubrie

Ye ah. Well, he's a human, right? Yeah. So it is hard to follow the human to the chicken love triangle.

Shannon

My favorite part of that is that you just, you were like, look, he's a human, right? Like, that was, that, I, honest to God, that's my new ringtone.

Noah

I mean, it's kind of more on theme if it's a chicken eating other chickens.

Aubrie

Yeah, because chickens do like to eat chicken.

Noah

What?

Aubrie

My friends have a chicken farm and they do love chicken. Yeah, they're cannibals. They're little cannibals.

Shannon

Oh, no.

Aubrie

They eat it. Yeah, they're pretty. Yeah, no, it was pretty intense to watch. But yeah, they love it. It felt weird.

Shannon

Do they just not know? Maybe they don't know.

Aubrie

No, they don't know.

Noah

Yeah, I feel like calling someone chicken brained is a specific name we have for something. Bird brained.

Aubrie

Bird brained, yeah. They're very smart, though.

Ralph

There is a Guinness World Record of a chicken living, a longest living chicken with its head cut off. I don't know if you've ever heard about this.

Noah

Right.

Ralph

I believe the chicken's name was Mike. And it lived for 18 days after the farmer that raised it cut its head off. So he was going to eat it, but it just kept walking around and doing stuff.

Aubrie

Oh, my God. That's like a Beetlejuice, Beetlejuice thing. I

Ralph

I, if that happened to me, I would have burned my house down and moved somewhere. Cause that's the devil right there.

Shannon

One thousand percent. That is Satan.

Aubrie

Yeah, no, that's, that's, disguised as.... give up the farm at that point. And what a weird name for a chicken, Mike.

Ralph

It was some, I might be wrong about the name, but it was a very common, like generic name.

Aubrie

I hope you're right, Donald.

Ralph Andracchio

Right.

Aubrie

I really hope you're right.

Shannon

Wow. That's... Huh.

Aubrie

So I have questions about your party too, Noah. Did any of them... Like, did you... Was there a point when you were like, this is a bad idea? Or like... Because it is like... There's a... So I watched the movies.

Noah

Yeah.

Aubrie

All... Because I like... was like, does one of us have to watch the movies? And we kind of agreed that we didn't have to. But one day I was like, I feel like someone here, and since it's like, I feel like I'll take the, I'll take, I'll bite the bullet. And so I did it and I regretted it immediately. But then I had to like text them and be like, what the fuck am I watching?

Noah

Yeah.

Aubrie

Wild choices all around.

Noah

Yeah, you really could do a podcast just talking about the movies because they're fascinating and bizarre. But no, I so originally they had watched the Twilight movies and then for some reason as they were like, they finished them, they're like, okay, now we'll watch these and we'll invite like twice as many friends for this one. I think because otherwise, like you suffered through it alone, like...

Aubrie

Yeah, no, it was, it was a bad, I was like, I regret this so hard, but it was totally my choice. Like I didn't even tell them till like after I watched the first one.

Noah

But now when you taste the recipes, you can understand the emotional depth.

Ralph

Like you're eating Jamie Dornan.

Aubrie

Eating Jamie Dornan. Yes. Let's, let's just put that on the record.

Ralph

I grew up... I'm an old head. So I grew up when the kind of the psychosexual movies were just starting like the early nineties when Basic Instinct came out. Like that was for me, like the best kind of version of that movie ever. So I'm always comparing things to the original Basic Instinct. Cause that was like, when that came out, everybody's like, this is me, this is great. Everybody's talking about it. And now like, I couldn't watch the 50 Shades of Grey movie because I just thought like, I'm just gonna be comparing them to Basic Instinct and being like, eh, this is nothing.

Noah

When was Fatal Attraction?

Ralph

Oh yeah, Fatal Attraction was before that. Doing a little quick Googling while we're on the air.

Aubrie

Another one that came on my radar, Fear, came out. That was so fucking weird. I tried to rewatch some of it, and I was like, this is so gross. And I just turned it off.

Noah

I saw a clip of that on social media. I'd never seen it before. It was weird.

Ralph

Fatal attraction was 87, and Basic Instinct was 92.

Aubrie

Oh nice. Yeah.

Ralph

And Fear, the movie...

Aubrie

Yeah.

Ralph

Was 96.

Aubrie

Okay. Yeah. I remember a friend, like literally we had like a party or something and she like rented it and we watched it together as like teenage girls. It was a real choice.

Ralph

Marky Mark, right? I

Aubrie

None of us knew like what was coming, but yeah, it's never left my brain.

Ralph

Marky Mark and Reese Witherspoon, right?

Aubrie

Yeah.

Ralph

Yeah.

Aubrie

And he was like so much older than her. It was really ...yeah it's not great.

Noah

In some ways 50 shades of gray is less weird than those movies because those movies are trying to make you sexually attracted to like a literal killer and here he he he maybe cares about her?

Aubrie

Yeah.

Noah

He hasn't killed anyone, at least.

Aubrie

Well, I think he does. I think it's, you haven't seen the third one, right? i

Noah

I haven't seen the third one. Oh, no, you can tell me.

Aubrie

I won't spoil anything. But wait, no, the one thing I will say about, there's like a, it ends, oh, should I spoil this? I think you'll still enjoy it. Shan, can you be my litmus? There's a cat chasing a toy, too. Don't mind that.

Shannon

Wait, what? Do I know? I don't know if I know.

Aubrie

Yeah, because I sent you a video of my TV. I think I sent you both it. There was a montage of her just, like, memories of them, but then they would choose, like, really weird sexual moments, and it went on for way too long. Like, it was such an insane move. But I was like, this is... bat shit and i've like kind of been like obsessed with whoever made this choice because it was just a very specific choice. Like she had like an umbrella she was like walking through a grave... like it wasn't any of them that died. I will never re-watch that movie so i'm just gonna part it together in my brain.

Ralph

I have to watch these movies now just so I can satisfy my curiosity.

Aubrie

Yeah, what's the 50 shades... what's the last one called?

Shannon

53 shades.

Aubrie

Yeah. Just go to that one. Find it on a free streaming service. Just go straight to the end and then you'll get the montage of all the good moments. And then like, uh, what's her name?

Ralph

I was going to say Dolores. That's not right.

Aubrie

Daisy?

Noah

Dakota Johnson?

Aubrie

Dakota. Dakota Johnson. Yeah.

Ralph

Dakota Fanning. Dakota Johnson.

Aubrie

Dakota Fanning. Dakota Johnson? Is that her name?

Ralph

Dolores Claiborne. That's her name.

Aubrie

Dolores Claiborne. Julia Child.

Noah

Supermarket chicken. Generic supermarket chicken.

Aubrie

Yeah, I just remember her carrying an umbrella. It was such an insane choice.

Ralph

All right. Hey, I'm not trying to knock anybody's artistic vision.

Aubrie

No.

Ralph

This is where we're

Aubrie

They got so much money for those movies, so the fact that they were able to end them on a crazy... not actually put a, but a montage was why I was like, wow. Usually studios won't allow... you know, montages as the end thing, maybe. I don't know. It's just a hunch I have because I haven't seen many. But what do I know?

Noah

Every once in a while, you get a movie that just ends with like a where are they now kind of montage.

Aubrie

Oh, yeah. Yes. I mean,

Ralph

My favorite kind of montages are 80s montages. Usually in a mall, trying on clothes, you know, doing stuff. That's where the montage really peaked.

Aubrie

Yeah, yeah. No, I love those. This was just clips of the old movies put together.

Ralph

They were like, we need to fill 15 minutes at the end of this movie.

Aubrie

Like, it wasn't the credits. It was just part of the movie. Like, I'm pretty sure. Yeah, it was part of the movie because there were credits after it. It was wild.

Noah

What if this cookbook got adapted to the screen?

Ralph

I would watch that. That'd be the first one in line.

Aubrie

Well, I think we have writers here, so we should be the ones to adapt it. I'm going to go on the book.

Shannon

Yeah, let's add it to our list.

Ralph

Adaptations.

Aubrie

It's going to be a dramatic thriller, much like..

Ralph

Speaking of thrills and drama, I think it's time for our questions, yes?

Aubrie

Oh yes.

Ralph

Did you like that lead-in like that transition?

Aubrie

It was very good.

Ralph

Thank you.

Shannon

That was beautiful.

Noah

We also didn't explain your uh speaking of LGBTQ+ segue before you introduced me but that's okay.

Ralph

So yeah no you are yes you are part of the the family, rights and marriage . Yeah.

Noah

Yes. Engaged to a man.

Ralph

Okay. Congratulations, by the way.

Noah

Thank you.

Ralph

When is the... Do you have a date set?

Noah

We do not. Oh, leaving it open.

Ralph

Keeping your options open. I like it.

Noah

No, I mean, more like we've been busy and we just got to sit down and make plans and throw darts at a calendar.

Ralph

Yeah. Oh, you don't have any specific date that holds any kind of... memory or anything?

Noah

Our dating anniversary is like May. That would be convenient, but it seems like prime wedding time, so we'll see.

Ralph

Just now that you've brought it up, thank you for bringing it up. Something for any LGBTQ plus viewers or listeners to think about as the new administration is coming in. And if you are in a long-term relationship, even if you are married to somebody of the same sex, please be sure you safeguard your rights. Don't just rely on the marriage certificate because those can easily go away. Make sure you each have power of attorney for each other. Make sure you have visitation. I forget what that's called, but some kind of medical visitation thing. And you can keep a laminated little copy in your pocket at all times. So if the hospital asks for it, you have it. There's a ton of stuff we need to do to protect our rights, which is insane and dumb because it's 2024, but we have to do it. So if you're listening and you're LGBTQ, please talk to a lawyer and make sure you have all of your bases covered.

Shannon

Is that somewhere? That people can... Is there a website or something that people can go to to see all of the things that people can do?

Ralph

There are. I don't know it off the top of my head. I have it saved somewhere.

Aubrie

We'll put it in the show notes.

Ralph

Noah, do you know of any?

Noah

No, I was seeing stuff come across social media. And I know some of like the in Philly, some of the council people have talked about like kind of looking towards those resources.

Ralph

Yeah. We'll include it in the notes.

Aubrie

Yeah, we'll do show notes for sure.

Ralph

But yes, just be sure you safeguard your rights. It's so dumb that I even have to say that.

Aubrie

So dumb.

Ralph

Yeah. Marriage does not... It comes with over a thousand perks and benefits under the law and taxes and everything, but they can all be easily taken away if you are not Adam and Eve.

Aubrie

Yeah, ugh.

Noah

Yeah. Legally, you can't call someone hubby unless you're married to them.

Ralph

I hate that word anyway. I never use it.

Noah

Skip the paperwork.

Shannon

You hate it enough not to get married.

Ralph

That right you can take away from me. That's fine. Yeah. All right. So yes. Thank you for reminding us about that. We've covered all the maudelin stuff. Now we can get to the questions. Yes. Great. All right. Five questions. Answer however you would like. They're open-ended. First of all, we would like to know what do you think is the sexiest food besides chicken, obviously?

Noah

I did get the questions in advance and I did prepare and I'm glad because otherwise we would be sitting here for like 20 minutes while I think about this one because this is a tough question. I'm going with spaghetti or other forms of long pasta.

Ralph

Okay. That's the first time we've gotten pasta.

Aubrie

Well, I think Alison did pasta eaten Lady and the Tramp style.

Noah

Yeah. That's part of what I'm thinking. I think you have to kind of slurp it up, which makes your mouth make certain shapes.

Aubrie

Oh yeah. I like it.

Noah

You can make it light or heavy. You can do all sorts of stuff with it.

Ralph

OK.

Noah

I don't know. I feel like the only other option is like, you know, certain things in the produce aisle.

Aubrie

I like it. I like it. All right. Speaking of sexy, what would a sexy cookbook be called and why? S

Noah

So the first thing that popped into my head was Nachos for One.

Aubrie

Yes.

Noah

And I did decide to say it because, you know, you have to love yourself. That's important. Another one I came up with is hot drinks for your hot date. Because I do think like, it's getting cold. I love sharing hot drinks. Very cozy, very cuddly. And you could use recipes. And then I have four bad ones.

Ralph

Great.

Shannon

No bad ones but continue.

Noah

The joy of eggs, jicama making love.

Ralph

That's a deep cut.

Noah

Sauces to wet your asspetite.

Ralph

Oh, that, come on that's a winner.

Shannon

That's incredible.

Aubrie

That's not the one you started with.

Noah

It's not it's not my sexy cookbook.

Aubrie

Fair fair. Yeah.

Noah

Um and the last one i'm just calling polenta.

Shannon

Very sexy.

Aubrie

Oh my god.

Shannon

You've got two Italians on this podcast, that is the sexiest one you could have said.

Aubrie

You should copyright those by the way and then you can sell the rights to whoever claims them because they will go. They will fly.

Noah

Can we get in touch with F.L. Fowler and see if she knows how to cook anything other than chicken?

Aubrie

I think in early 2025 that has to be our because we've joked about it, but like none of us have had time to actively pursue it Or like it was just a joke, but I've always been like, we should pursue it. We'll figure it out.

Noah

Doing a like documentary, like the search for F.L. Fowler to try to figure out who wrote these recipes. I could see that existing.

Aubrie

Oh, my God. Yeah, we...

Shannon

It's our side podcast. It's like Dead Eyes, but the search...

Ralph

And it would be ...the podcast would be called "a podcast to whet your asspetite."

Aubrie

Wet your asspetite. Yes. Search for FL Fowler.

Ralph

Brilliant.

Noah

And, and I didn't even realize that like the word wet is usually spelled W H E T when you whet your appetite, but I spelled it W E T.

Aubrie

I like it more sexual.

Noah

I don't know.

Shannon

I didn't know that.

Noah

I knew that weirdly.

Aubrie

I knew that weirdly.

Shannon

I'm also the worst speller ever, so that's not really a barometer for what people should and should not know.

Noah

Yeah, you need a British person to walk in and ask you if you want to whet your appetite.

Aubrie

Whet, yeah.

Shannon

If only.

Aubrie

I love it. All right, Ralph, I think that's you.

Ralph

Was that me? Oh, that is me. I

Aubrie

Yeah, I think we just did a....

Ralph

Um, yeah, sexiest food mascot. What do you got?

Noah

So I struggle to think of food mascots and I like just listen to a podcast where they discuss them, which was a strange coincidence. But stop me if you've heard this one before. Jolly Green Giant.

Ralph

Sure.

Shannon

Yeah.

Aubrie

Yeah. I don't think it was the main one, though. I think like Kait Thompson mentioned it in passing, but I think hers was someone else.

Shannon

I think when when they when when Patrick asked us all, I think that's who I agreed with. Because, I mean, come on.

Noah

You know, and I did listen to that episode, so maybe I stole it directly from you subconsciously. I

Shannon

I mean, it's the correct answer. I mean, that guy can, that green bean man can carry you around. And that is a win.

Aubrie

He can get it.

Shannon

He can get it.

Noah

And unlike the Hulk, he's happy.

Shannon

Thank you. And healthy.

Ralph

True.

Noah

You think the Hulk is just sitting around eating junk food?

Shannon

Yes. I've seen, I've seen End Game. Yes, he's eating giant pancakes and like a truck full of eggs. Like, yes. His cholesterol is very high.

Ralph

Yeah.

Noah

Yeah. But you can burn a lot of cholesterol just, you know, pounding your enemy into the dirt.

Aubrie

Hulk smash him.

Ralph

That's what she said.

Shannon

Heyo.

Aubrie

Heyo.

Ralph

Heyo.

Aubrie

All right. If you were stuck on a desert island and could only eat one thing, what would it be?

Noah

I'm assuming this doesn't have to be something that grows on a desert island.

Aubrie

No, no. It could just be like if you had limitless supply of anything. Doesn't have to...it can be a perishable. Like, rules don't matter.

Noah

I actually did not choose my favorite food here, which is probably nachos. Not necessarily for one. But I went with pizza. It isn't terrible for you in the grand scheme of things. And there's a lot of variety there.

Aubrie

Nice. Yeah, because you could like literally have a different toppings and like switch them up. Because like in this scenario, we have like a pizza chef there.

Ralph

Would you have the pizza delivered every day by boat?

Aubrie

Ooh.

Noah

I like the idea of being able to pull it hot off of trees.

Aubrie

Like a pizza tree?

Noah

Yeah. But delivered by boat is good. Airlifted.

Aubrie

Or it could be it could rain like cloudy in the chance of meatballs.

Shannon

Wait, say it again. I'm sorry.

Aubrie

I'm sorry. It could like rain like cloudy with a chance of meatballs. They could just fall from the sky just like willy nilly too. Sorry, Shan, didn't mean to...

Shannon

No, that's, that was much better than what I was going to say. But if you're, if it's being delivered, okay, just hear me out. If it's being delivered by boat, then you're not stranded on a desert Island anymore. You're just, you get on that boat and then you can go get your own pizza.

Ralph

I don't know how you ruin everything, Shannon.

Shannon

I'm just using logic.

Aubrie

Well, here, but I worded it very trickily because I said if you were stuck on a desert island, people could be coming in and out.

Ralph

That is true.

Shannon

Sure.

Noah

Maybe you're emotionally stuck. You can't leave cause you know.

Aubrie

Yeah, you're mentally stuck.

Shannon

That's very relatable.

Noah

I also think if you've ever tried to like get in the car with the Papa John's delivery person, they probably are going to give you a hard time.

Ralph

That is absolutely true.

Aubrie

That's your, yeah the Papa John's boat is your only hope for escape.

Shannon

I don't know, I feel like I would try. I just uh well yeah I don't know the Papa John's Papa John's can go but if it was a Domino's guy... We've got a different thing. Anywho, I'm sorry to bring logic into this scenario because that makes no sense to do in this.

Aubrie

No, it's fine.

Noah

That's the best kind.

Aubrie

50 Shades of Chicken.

Shannon

Right. There's no logic involved in our current cookbook.

Noah

Yeah. A better book might have been 50 Breeds of Chicken where it's just pictures of different kinds of live chickens.

Aubrie

There should be a spinoff.

Noah

I guess that's now two steps removed because it doesn't have any of the words from the title of the book in it anymore.

Shannon

Well.

Noah

Yeah.

Shannon

It has 50 in it. Anyway. All right. Last question. Fuck, marry, kill. I have to do it in my head. Cranberry sauce, stuffing, and green bean casserole.

Noah

So you must pick different foods every time, and we're getting the special post-Thanksgiving recording session edition?

Aubrie

Yeah.

Ralph

Got it.

Noah

I found this relatively easy.

Aubrie

Okay.

Noah

And we'll see what people think, but I think you marry the stuffing... you fuck the green bean casserole and you kill the cranberry sauce.

Aubrie

Interesting. What do you have against cranberry sauce?

Noah

It's not satisfying by itself.

Aubrie

Fair, fair.

Ralph

That is fair.

Noah

Even for one night in each others arms. I don't know. Maybe you're in a tub full of cranberry sauce. I don't know what's going on.

Aubrie

Yeah, yeah. Choose your own adventure.

Noah

Green bean casserole is a guilty pleasure.

Aubrie

Yeah.

Noah

You don't need it your whole life. You just need it once.

Aubrie

I like it. I like this logic,

Ralph

Yeah. You thought about this. I give you credit, you thought about this logically. Every answer makes sense. I disagree, but I can't.

Noah

What are you marrying?

Shannon

Yeah, what is yours?

Ralph

I would also marry stuffing because... I would reverse green bean casserole and cranberry sauce.

Aubrie

See, I would go with Noah's because I do love cranberry sauce, but I can't eat much of it, and I would eat more of green bean casserole, and I can sustain that for longer. It's nice, cranberry sauce, but like.

Ralph

But if you're just, if it's just like a side thing, which cranberry sauce is, it's not meant to be the whole shebang.

Aubrie

You know.

Ralph

You know, go visit cranberry sauce every, like every couple of weeks, be like, hey baby, you home? Yeah.

Noah

I think maybe cranberry sauce is a truck stop hookup. You're not even going to a motel with it.

Ralph

So you're making it better.

Aubrie

We need to expand our categories.

Noah

If it's a room with a bed, you need green bean casserole.

Shannon

It's a classy joint.

Aubrie

Oh my god that's so good.

Ralph

It also depends on the kind of cranberry sauce- if it's the kind that comes in the can and still looks like a can when you take it out, that's a truck stop hookup. But if it's like the fancy kind with the twigs and the full the whole berries that that's like Four Seasons.

Noah

OK.

Aubrie

Yeah see, my family always has cans we like because we're from Delco. So that's why I chose to kill it because I'm like, you know, it's just like jelly canned food. One or two bites, I'm good.

Noah

That's all you need.

Ralph

All right, we're careening quickly towards the end. This has been fun.

Noah

Oh my.

Ralph

This went super quick. I hope you had fun, Noah.

Noah

Oh yeah. And I ate chicken.

Ralph

And you ate chicken. So we see, we feed our guests. We're, we're a full service podcast. This will, I'm not quite sure when this will be coming out, but is there anything generally you would like to plug for anybody, anybody to go, you know, see you, listen to you, connect with you online? What do you got?

Noah

Yes. So, uh, Talking 2024 is releasing weekly, but it all continues to exist. So if you had a favorite week this year that you want to pre-live based on what we thought might be happening, definitely check that out. If you recognize any of our guests, check it out. Or you could listen all the way through and chart the journey. Dying Message, the detective anime mystery podcast continues to exist. If anybody is into anime... Or Mysteries, you might enjoy that. It's a niche that I am firmly inside of. So you can find both of those wherever you get your podcasts. Also, Talking 2024 is on Instagram if you want to see like the pictures with the guests and kind of browse all that stuff. And then the other thing I'll shout out is I'll hopefully be doing again soon my solo improvised play, Noah's No Show Show. So people should follow that on Instagram. And you can find some clips from Philly Fringe. I would definitely like that and then share it and then like it some more. I'm hoping to share some more clips in the coming months and then perform again sometime next year.

Aubrie

Nice.

Ralph

Excellent. You're a busy, busy man.

Aubrie

Yes.

Noah

Yeah, maybe that's why I never cook chicken.

Ralph

It is.

Noah

Although this was super quick.

Ralph

Time intensive. It was super quick and kind of tasty. Yeah, still very good.

Aubrie

Yeah, I think I'm going to go with real chicken next time if it's not spoiled in the package. No, no shame to this. It just wasn't, it was like, it wasn't breasts. So like I couldn't cut it into strips. So it was just a little tiny chunks, so...

Ralph

Right on. Shannon?

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I'd kill all three.

Ralph Andracchio

Perfect. What a way to end the show. That's tracks. Thank you again, Noah, for being on the show. Thank you, Aubrie and Shannon. Thank you everybody for listening. And always remember to eat responsibly. Thank you all. Have a good night.

Aubrie

Good night.