'97 Badd Blood Fallout: Kane Promises Destruction! Jim Cornette Shoots on WCW

In this episode of the New to Wrestling podcast, hosts Xavier and Kelsey dive into the October 6, 1997 edition of Raw is War, exploring the aftermath of the Bad Blood pay-per-view. The episode is packed with intense matches, dramatic storylines, and some controversial moments that have left a lasting impact on the wrestling world. From the debut of Kane to the emotional tribute to Brian Pillman, this episode offers a deep dive into the evolving landscape of WWE during the late 1990s.

Match Card:

- Headbangers vs. Godwins (Lumberjack Match)

- Mark Miro vs. Miguel Perez

- British Bulldog vs. Rocky Maivia

- Owen Hart vs. Road Warrior Hawk (Intercontinental Championship)

- Hardy Boys vs. Truth Commission (Cancelled)

- Triple H w/ Chyna vs. Bret "The Hitman" Hart

The hosts provide insightful commentary on the matches and promos, highlighting key moments such as Jim Cornette's fiery promo against WCW and the ongoing feud between Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart. They also discuss the broader context of the WWE's Attitude Era, touching on the cultural and industry shifts that were taking place at the time. With a mix of humor and critical analysis, Xavier and Kelsey offer a fresh perspective on this pivotal moment in wrestling history, making it a must-listen for both new and seasoned fans.

Timestamps:

• 0:00 Intro
• 4:15 Discussion on Vince's demeanor
• 8:24 Discussion on Shawn Michaels' Reputation
• 11:50 Curtain Call Incident Discussion
• 16:16 Segment on Shawn Michaels and Bret Hart
• 20:13 Bret Hart's Championship Run
• 24:02 Discussion on Lumberjack Song
• 27:50 Discussion on wrestling divisions
• 31:38 Fierce love and aesthetic discussion
• 39:47 Segment on Company Rivalry
• 43:19 Match Commentary
• 47:20 Negotiation with Vince McMahon
• 51:34 Promo from Road Warrior Hawk
• 56:36 Uncomfortable Wrestling Segment
• 1:00:39 Discussion on insensitive questioning
• 1:04:24 Exploitation of a grieving stepmother
• 1:09:08 Poor taste segment
• 1:12:17 Kane's Debut Discussion
• 1:16:47 Main Event Preview
• 1:19:01 Match Recap: Brett, Triple H, and China

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Transcript

Xavier [0:00 - 0:40]: Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of the New to Wrestling podcast. This week we watched the October 6, 1997 edition of Raw is War. And the match card is as follows. In our opening contest, we had the Headbangers taking on the Godwins in a lumberjack match. The returning Mark Miro takes on Miguel Perez. The British Bulldog takes on Rocky Maivia. Owen Hart takes on Road Warrior Hawk for the Intercontinental Championship. There is supposed to be a tag team match between the Hardy Boys and the Truth Committee Mission. More on that later. And in our main event, it is Triple H with China taking on Brett the Hitman Heart. 

Kelsey Silva [1:06 - 1:08]: Viewer discretion is advised. 

Xavier [1:08 - 1:20]: Hello, everyone. Welcome, welcome. If you are new here, you're in luck. This is Kelsey. She is also new here. And if you are re watching like me, well, you're in luck also, because I am Xavier. 

Kelsey Silva [1:20 - 1:20]: Yes. 

Xavier [1:21 - 1:21]: And I'm not. 

Kelsey Silva [1:22 - 1:24]: You're in luck because I'm Xavier. 

Xavier [1:24 - 1:25]: No, literally. 

Kelsey Silva [1:25 - 1:29]: Didn't I love it? 

Xavier [1:29 - 1:30]: No. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:30 - 1:31]: Happy New Year. 

Xavier [1:31 - 1:43]: Oh, my gosh. Right? Happy New Year, everybody. If you were listening, it is the first day, I think. No, no, no, no, no. What year is it? Where are we? 

Kelsey Silva [1:43 - 1:45]: Anybody know? Yeah, it is. 

Xavier [1:45 - 1:55]: It's early January. When you're listening to this, welcome. We have survived another year. Who knows if we'll survive another? So, like, let's ride it while we can. 

Kelsey Silva [1:55 - 1:58]: You know, guys, let's hold hands and ride this train straight to hell, girl. 

Xavier [1:58 - 2:04]: Hey, speaking of which, this whole episode was very. That energy. 

Kelsey Silva [2:05 - 2:06]: Oh, my God. 

Xavier [2:06 - 2:41]: This is the fallout of Bad Blood. Bad Blood being the first ever Helena Cell match, as well as the debut of Kane. So, yes, we've been waiting for quite a long time for that one. We ended the year with that. And we're starting with the fallout, the craziness, the where do we go from here? This was not a wrestling heavy show. This was very much. We need plots, we need plot, we need new stories. Yes. 

Kelsey Silva [2:42 - 2:49]: While you're bringing up Kane, one, I want to say, couldn't have planned that better that the. We ended the year with the debut. 

Xavier [2:49 - 2:49]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [2:49 - 3:20]: Insane. Literally insane. Couldn't have planned that. Also, speaking of Kane. So my shirt, I'm wearing an Undertaker shirt, which was made by Dark Sport Fierce. They did an incredible collaboration with Undertaker. So Fierce, Xavier got a shirt also, but I have to mail it to him. But I would love it because I was looking at this, like, the lightning detail. So incredible. I want them to do a cane collab and then do the flames, because if I had both of those, y'all would be Sick of me. 

Xavier [3:20 - 3:21]: Oops. Please. 

Kelsey Silva [3:21 - 3:23]: Sick of me. 

Xavier [3:23 - 3:29]: Like, like both times, like, you know what I mean? Because no matter. 

Kelsey Silva [3:29 - 3:31]: I love a multifunctional outfit. 

Xavier [3:31 - 3:35]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. No matter what shirt you're wearing, it's, it's correct, it matches. 

Kelsey Silva [3:35 - 3:46]: I love that dark sport. I know you watch, I know you're huge fans, right? Obviously. But duh. But that would be fierce. I would love that. That would be really cool because this is awesome. 

Xavier [3:46 - 4:13]: Love, love to see it. All right guys, so this one starts off on a little bit of a somber note. We get the. Yeah, we get the 10 bell salute which is tradition when a wrestler or you know, somebody in the wrestling family passes away, the entire locker room comes out, they have a moment of silence and they ring the, the ten bells for Brian Pillman. I'm. 

Kelsey Silva [4:13 - 4:15]: This is my first one. 

Xavier [4:15 - 4:33]: I'm still standing by the. Vince is either like really uncomfortable with having to do all of this or is really not about having to do all of this. And I can't tell which it is. 

Kelsey Silva [4:33 - 4:35]: And either way it's disgusting. 

Xavier [4:35 - 4:37]: Correct him. 

Kelsey Silva [4:37 - 4:40]: I mean, not the situation, but no, obviously. 

Xavier [4:40 - 5:10]: Yeah, it's just like, I don't know, it just feels very like he's going through the motion because he feels like he has to and not because he. It just it. I'm not saying you need to be like, like recrumped with emotion, but like just a little bit of something. It just feels so formal and like cold. 

Kelsey Silva [5:10 - 5:14]: Feels. It feels like AI doing emotion. 

Xavier [5:14 - 5:17]: Right, right. It just feels very like like a. 

Kelsey Silva [5:17 - 5:25]: Terminator trying like when literally when like in Terminator 2 when like Arnold Schwarzenegger is like trying to understand like tears. 

Xavier [5:25 - 5:25]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [5:25 - 5:44]: He's like, what is this? Very, very giving that I. And we'll get into it because there's like a really insane moment with later. But yeah, there's something like. I don't want to use the word sinister because it feels a little heavy handed. 

Xavier [5:44 - 5:44]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [5:44 - 5:48]: But there's something really weird about really. 

Xavier [5:48 - 5:51]: Off putting about the way he approaches this. Like. 

Kelsey Silva [5:51 - 6:12]: Yes. And yeah, I mean I'm sure we'll get into it, but this was my first 10 bell salute. I've never seen this before. Really interesting. Not interesting in like that somebody died. I just mean like it's what a. I. I think the concept of it is very sweet actually like to do the 10 bell salute. 

Xavier [6:12 - 6:18]: But yes, unfortunately this was your first experience with that. 

Kelsey Silva [6:19 - 6:22]: It's like you see Vince's true face and it. I don't want to see that. 

Xavier [6:23 - 6:35]: No, no, not, not now. Not ever. Because who do you become when you look evil in the eye? Is really. It's really. 

Kelsey Silva [6:35 - 6:41]: And I stared down the barrel of that gun before, and I don't want to play Russian roulette with that again. 

Xavier [6:41 - 7:14]: Right. Ex. But let's kick it in. Let's get into the show. The. The fallout of it all. So this, the show starts out with. With a little bit of dx or a lot of. Bit of DX is kind of probably a more accurate description. Of course. You know, they make their way, they're gyrating, they're dancing, they're having a grand old time. China looks like a million bucks in that one piece. Or I guess it's like two piece, but it's like a cutout, like, bodysuit situation. Love that. She did. She did like a. Like a little half up, half down do very. 

Kelsey Silva [7:14 - 7:22]: She has gorgeous hair. Gorgeous hair. And honestly, I'm. I think I would assume it's her real hair. 

Xavier [7:22 - 7:23]: I think so, yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [7:23 - 7:31]: I was like, could be a wig, but I think it's her real hair. And she has gorgeous, beautiful, raven black, thick hair. Stunning. 

Xavier [7:31 - 8:07]: Love to see it. So Michael Cole has the unfortunate honor of Degeneration X. And basically he goes. He starts. He tries so hard, God bless him. He's like. So, like last night, he's like, at the. Whatever. Whatever you were in, quite possibly one of the best matches ever in the wwf. What are your thoughts? And their thoughts are to give Michael Cole a wedgie. Like an atomic wedgie. Like they had that boy. Yeah, a wedgie. 

Kelsey Silva [8:07 - 8:24]: I said a wedgie from my co workers, right? Oh, no, no. You want to talk about workplace harassment, you gave me a wedgie live on the air. That's a no from me. That was crazy. Wedgies. That's Tom Flory and I do not mess with Tom. I don't like that. 

Xavier [8:24 - 8:47]: Oh, I like that. There's. It's really funny because there's like a later. Who knows what documentary or this is, but Michael Cole was asked about, like, Shawn Michaels, like in that time, and it just cuts to him and he just like stares at the camera like. Like a fourth wall break. He goes, he was a dick. He's like, back then, he was a dick. 

Kelsey Silva [8:47 - 8:52]: He was a dick. I mean, that is the common consensus. I mean, like, that. 

Xavier [8:53 - 8:53]: It's not like it's. 

Kelsey Silva [8:53 - 9:02]: And he'll say it. Yeah, yeah. It's not like he rebukes it. Like he's like, no, I was definitely a dick. But what was it? He like, found Jesus and he's Nice now. 

Xavier [9:02 - 10:33]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. He. Yeah, the. He, like, ends up leaving the WF because of all the back injuries. They try and keep him around to do like, you know, commissioner things or whatever, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But because he's so heavily on the drugs, it becomes like a problem. Like, he can't just, like, show up to work and, like, be presentable. So eventually he gets, like, canned and sent home. And then he has this, like. He has a son and apparently there's like this. He has this like, moment where he like, passes out, like, from a, like a soma induced whatever while his son's like, climbing on him. And his, like, his wife, like, comes home and is like, oh, like daddy's sleeping. And Sean, like, he talks about it later. He's like. It became like, really apparent to me that, like, I could really mess him up. And, like, that's not anything he ever asked for. So then he, like, pretty much from there quit like cold turkey and didn't do. Yeah. So there's that. And then during that time, he also, you know, his wife was generally religious, but she. They talk about it where she's like, I never wanted to, like, make him do anything because I thought it would have the opposite, like, effect. But when he was going through all of that, like, he kind of turned. 

Kelsey Silva [10:33 - 10:34]: Found his own way there. 

Xavier [10:34 - 10:36]: Yeah. Okay, so. 

Kelsey Silva [10:36 - 10:40]: And I'm not judging anybody who does that. I'm just saying. I was just wondering if that was the. 

Xavier [10:40 - 10:52]: Yeah, yeah, that was the one. That's. That's the general trajectory. And then he comes back. Wow. 2002. And is. Has a killer, like, end to his career that he didn't get to do before, so. 

Kelsey Silva [10:52 - 10:54]: Oh, that's so sweet. 

Xavier [10:55 - 10:58]: But in this era, anyway, moving on. 

Kelsey Silva [10:59 - 11:03]: But where we're at right now, Piece of garbage. Carry on. 

Xavier [11:03 - 11:48]: Big, big old Doogie Stain. No. So he goes on to, like, describe the match with the Undertaker. He's like, oh, they tried to put an end to old hbk, but look who's still here. He's like, look who's here, look who's not. And you're like, oh, here we go. And then he goes on, he's like, I have taken. I've gone, like, ascended to a new level. I am no longer just a superstar of the wwf. I am an icon. And he's like. And no, I mean, and not, not no, but no, he also, like, he goes to just be like, everybody likes to throw around that, like, icon, like, word. But I am in a class of like, and to Myself. And you're like, all right, go off. 

Kelsey Silva [11:48 - 11:50]: And kind of is, though. 

Xavier [11:50 - 13:11]: No, fully. And then Triple H, like, grabs the mic and we get this, like, classic, like, sound bite that ends up getting used frequently when they're talking about DX or like, when down the line, when Hunter and Sean feud, it's like, who's the man? And it's like, Sean's like, me. He's like, who's the showstopper? Me. He's like, who's the main event? Me. And it's just like this whole, like, it's something that comes up, like, frequently. So then they go to play this footage from Bad Blood because Sean's like, look, look. I'll show you exactly how good I am. Like, look at this. And then we're, like, waiting around because it's live tv, so, you know, we're waiting for the production truck to, like, give us what he asked for. We're like, okay, like, what's happening? And then all of a sudden, the curtain call incident from 1996 involving Razor, Ramon Diesel, Shawn Michaels and Triple H gets played over the. The Titan Tron. And they just start, like, wailing on Vince. On. Like, they're just like, oh, look, what's the matter, Vin? Like, still sensitive? Like, still too soon. Like, you don't. What happened? 

Kelsey Silva [13:11 - 13:13]: Like, that is crazy. 

Xavier [13:14 - 13:15]: It's so funny. 

Kelsey Silva [13:15 - 13:16]: That is crazy. 

Xavier [13:17 - 13:39]: So funny. And he goes, what is your. Is your dad rolling in his grave? Because those are the things that they were told, like, after they went out and, like, did that, that, like, they killed the business. Like, Kayfabe is dead and, like, blah, blah, blah. Like, it was a whole thing. And people still point to that moment and be like, oh, like, that's the moment. Like, that changed. Like, the way fans look at wrestling. 

Kelsey Silva [13:39 - 13:45]: Oh, yeah. Because even Undertaker still talks about it, right? And he's still pissed about it. 

Xavier [13:45 - 13:47]: Right, Right. 

Kelsey Silva [13:47 - 13:49]: And so is Bret Hart. I mean, they both. 

Xavier [13:49 - 13:59]: Well, Bret Hart. Well, I'll take an asterisk to Bret Hart, because I love him. I really do. But he is a bitter man. 

Kelsey Silva [13:59 - 14:01]: So I was gonna say he is bitter boots. 

Xavier [14:01 - 14:02]: Yes. 

Kelsey Silva [14:02 - 14:07]: And I. Sometimes I. I love it. A bitter baby. Yes. No, no. 

Xavier [14:07 - 14:08]: Sometimes I love it. 

Kelsey Silva [14:08 - 14:09]: I really do. 

Xavier [14:09 - 14:14]: But, like, I do. I. Sometimes you do have to take it with a grain of salt, because that man is bitter. 

Kelsey Silva [14:14 - 14:42]: So bitter. Honey, that is. I did not expect that at all. I net. I mean, showing the curtain call being like, oh, yes, look how good I am. And then being like, oh, yeah, by the way, right? Remember this? I murdered Quote unquote, wrestling. I murdered the idea, the business, the whatever. Well, guess who's still here, honey. Guess who's still main eventing, right? Guess who's first ever in the iron match, first ever in the ladder match, first ever in the hell in a cell. 

Xavier [14:42 - 14:44]: He said, I don't. 

Kelsey Silva [14:45 - 14:48]: He said, as long as your. As long as your credit can vouch a dog couldn't catch me. 

Xavier [14:48 - 14:51]: No, like, honestly. Honestly. 

Kelsey Silva [14:51 - 15:02]: Crazy. One of my favorite lines that. Who is. That's from. Oh my God. I like the way you work it. No diggity. Always my credit can vouch a dog couldn't catch me. Straight up. 

Xavier [15:03 - 15:03]: So crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [15:03 - 15:07]: And that's Sean Michaels. And that's the Generation X in a nutshell. 

Xavier [15:07 - 15:07]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [15:07 - 15:12]: So they're like, okay, and you didn't fire me after that. 

Xavier [15:12 - 15:23]: Good luck. Yeah. And they're literally just like, oh, what's the matter? Like, oh, did we make an ass out of you? He's like, you were an ass long before we made an ass out of you. 

Kelsey Silva [15:23 - 15:28]: That was crazy. You weren't as long before I made an ass out of you. 

Xavier [15:28 - 16:10]: Love that. And I was like, oh, love to see it. And of course this prompts the, I guess interjection from the heart foundation because Shawn Michaels is the number one contender to Bret Hart's WWF championship. And of course it's, it's, I don't know, it's a Bret Hart promo. It's like, look at your hero. Like, look at him. He calls him a disgrace to pro wrestling, the lowest form of scum. Which I just find hilarious because Sean and Triple H are so unserious. Like so unserious the entire time. Oh, like so stupid. 

Kelsey Silva [16:11 - 16:15]: So like clowns. Two clowns at the circus. 

Xavier [16:16 - 16:58]: So ridiculous. He calls them a degenerate. Which again, put that in the, in the note. I believe next week is the, the official, like, naming. Yeah, well, they say it in the naming ceremony. Sure, they say it in a promo. Finally. And then he, he takes it off roading from wrestling promo to just straight homophobia. He said, real quick turn. And then he's like talking about like what the H's in their names stand for. And he's like, he's like, you're a homo. He's a homo. And then he at one point calls China a man. 

Kelsey Silva [16:59 - 17:09]: Oh yeah. For his trouble to Shawn Michaels. Like you and those two men in the ring with you. And it was Triple H in China. And I was like, so crazy. 

Xavier [17:11 - 17:34]: And then he said, you may have barebacked your way, like to the Top, but I make more money than you, like, than you could ever, like, dream of or whatever. And then he goes on. This is a good, like, end to the promo. He's like. And he takes the titles like, this is what it's all about, actually. He's like. He's like, you will never be the showstopper until you take this from me, even though he has already. 

Kelsey Silva [17:37 - 17:40]: It's not like he's never been the champion, but okay. 

Xavier [17:40 - 17:42]: And literally beat you for it. But sure. 

Kelsey Silva [17:45 - 17:47]: Details, details. 

Xavier [17:47 - 18:09]: At one point, he calls Diesel and Razor, like, his boyfriends, their boyfriends. And how he ran them out of the company. So absurd. And then they, you know, they make their way to the back because, you know, they left. They called everybody gay and left. It's just like middle school. 

Kelsey Silva [18:09 - 18:12]: Everyone's a gay man in the ring, including China, right? 

Xavier [18:12 - 18:59]: And you're like, all right, go off. Okay, sure. And then Shawn Michaels, of course, being in the ring alone or, like, with the mic is not gonna not say anything. He goes immediately for. For Bret Hart. He's like, I have two words for you. Suck it. And then moves on. And he's like. He's like, this business needs Shawn Michaels. That's why I'm here. And then he goes on to say, like, brett, you are a zero. My hero. And he's like, the only way that you could main event is by working with me. Otherwise, you are just a paper champion and a support, like cast to the. To the Shawn Michaels show. 

Kelsey Silva [18:59 - 19:07]: Essentially, calling Bret Hart a chorus girl is crazy. Like, you're basically a chorus. You're a chorus girl number three. 

Xavier [19:07 - 19:14]: No, actually, unless I bring you uncredited non speaking role is how he would like it. 

Kelsey Silva [19:14 - 19:40]: And I said paper champion. First of all, band name. Second, like that paper champion. Ow. And I love because Bret Hart says, like, I make more money than you per match. Like, I get paid more to do a match. And Sean's like, maybe that's true. When his little comeback is like, maybe that's true, but I wrestle more than you. I'm in every event and where are you? You're not getting into a match. 

Xavier [19:40 - 19:55]: He said he wrestles less than Sean, like, or less than Brett. He's like, he's like, you're working your little tail off. He's like, I show up at the end to make the big bucks. I don't know what. What you're talking. He's like, that's what the flex you think it is. Crazy. Crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [19:55 - 20:05]: And saying you only main event when I'm with you is One kind of true. Or at least it has been. It has been little minute, especially this title run. 

Xavier [20:05 - 20:13]: He has not been like the main event of anything really, which is, I mean, Bad Blood. 

Kelsey Silva [20:13 - 20:44]: They put him in that booty ass flag match. That was so meh. For what? And I'm like, he is the championship. Whatever. We talked about it in the Bad Blood episode, whatever. But I just. And I. Maybe I'm reading too much into it because that's my favorite hobby, but I just feel like this last championship run of Bret Hart is almost like they really. It feels like he's getting embarrassed at every turn. Like intent. Not intentionally maybe again, it's like I know too much. I love. 

Xavier [20:44 - 21:07]: He's also like, he's the bad guy, which is typically bad guy. What happens. But yeah, there are definitely like, like the backstage tension stuff is like making its way like out onto the screen because the. The they're saying to each other is like. Is like you're getting real borderline. Like, that's not okay. 

Kelsey Silva [21:09 - 21:13]: Sunny Days. Never forget enjoying Sunny Days. That was crazy. 

Xavier [21:13 - 21:34]: And there's a lot of resentment building, I feel like on the part of. Between Brett and Vince because Brett feels like Vince isn't doing enough about it about Sean. You know what I mean? And like, I can see that also being like a valid argument. 

Kelsey Silva [21:34 - 21:45]: Yes. It's like when Brett said that thing, he goes, is anyone going to do anything about Stone Cold just doing whatever the hell he wants at any time? Like, am I crazy? And we were like, he's kind of got a point. 

Xavier [21:45 - 21:48]: Right. Right. I know we're eating it up, but like, not. 

Kelsey Silva [21:48 - 21:59]: No, like, yeah, like again, I mean, it's just these were both really, really good. I mean, we didn't aggressive U turn into. Into homophobia lane. 

Xavier [21:59 - 22:00]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [22:00 - 22:04]: But the, the, the chirping before wasn't bad. 

Xavier [22:04 - 22:05]: No. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [22:05 - 22:06]: This is what I'll. 

Xavier [22:06 - 22:08]: Yeah. I was, I was with it. 

Kelsey Silva [22:08 - 22:10]: We never need to go down that road. 

Xavier [22:10 - 22:19]: Yeah. But again, I like, Yes, I agree with you. But again, it's like 1997 and they did not care. So like. 

Kelsey Silva [22:19 - 22:27]: Yeah. And also triple H. Like his rebuttal to being. Saying that the triple H, the H and triple Hs for homo was like, okay. 

Xavier [22:28 - 22:28]: He's like, I'm not. 

Kelsey Silva [22:28 - 22:34]: He just like felt that he said, I'm not a queer. And it's like a. First of all a queer. Crazy. 

Xavier [22:34 - 22:35]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [22:35 - 22:39]: But also it's like you. You didn't need to say anything. 

Xavier [22:39 - 22:43]: Right? Right. It's. It was. It's almost more damning you know, like, yes. 

Kelsey Silva [22:43 - 22:47]: Like to grab the mic from Sean and be like, no, no, no, no, not me. 

Xavier [22:47 - 22:48]: Right, girl? 

Kelsey Silva [22:49 - 22:49]: Okay. 

Xavier [22:49 - 22:51]: It's okay. It's okay. It's okay. 

Kelsey Silva [22:51 - 22:53]: It's okay. It's okay. 

Xavier [22:54 - 23:43]: Live your life. All right. But that takes us into our opening contest, which is the Headbangers taking on the Godwins. The Godwins are the new WWF Tag Team Champions as of Bad Blood. So this is kind of like a rematch. Kind of not. It is non title. This is a lumberjack match, which is the first one that we have seen on the show. For those of you who are new here, like Kelsey. Kelsey was like a lumberjack match. It is when the ring is surrounded by other wrestlers and their sole responsibility is to take the wrestlers when they get thrown out of the ring and throw them back into the ring as to not give anybody a respite. This is supposed to make it hard hitting the whole time. Nobody gets a break. 

Kelsey Silva [23:43 - 23:53]: Interesting. So it's. It's funny to see them all out there and do they call, like, why do they call it Lumberjacks? Because they're just standing out there and it's like, I don't know, trees. 

Xavier [23:53 - 24:02]: Like, I don't know, it makes me feel like a lumberjack song. Like I don't know where that comes from, but I don't know. Like, I gotta do some research. Not gonna lie. If you know and want to educate us, by all means. 

Kelsey Silva [24:02 - 24:14]: Yeah, please. I mean, I just think the concept is so funny. Like seeing everybody out there, like, it was like the nation, like, like doom. The Truth Commission. 

Xavier [24:14 - 24:16]: Yeah. Like the whole gang was out there. 

Kelsey Silva [24:16 - 24:21]: Yeah. And like mosh. Was it mosh that immediately like crowd surfs the whole. 

Xavier [24:21 - 24:27]: Yeah, yeah. Crowd surfs the Lumberjacks is so good love. 

Kelsey Silva [24:27 - 24:29]: Crowd surfs the Lumberjacks song name. 

Xavier [24:29 - 24:36]: I'm so biased. Maybe it's like the Jersey thing or maybe it's just because I want to bang Nash, but like Jesus obsessed. 

Kelsey Silva [24:37 - 24:39]: It is like, so your type, which is. 

Xavier [24:39 - 24:56]: I know. No. 100%. It's disgusting. Love to see it. This match was. It was fun. It's. It's, you know, we got, you know, we got people tossed of the. Of the ring. Some people get getting beat up. The Truth Commission was trying to get their licks in. 

Kelsey Silva [24:57 - 24:58]: I would. 

Xavier [24:59 - 25:01]: Yeah. But technically it's not what they're supposed to do. But. 

Kelsey Silva [25:01 - 25:03]: No, of course not. 

Xavier [25:05 - 25:28]: At one point, the Godwins try and use the bucket on. On one of the headbangers. Lod takes great offense so that they jump in the ring because they've got mad history going on. And then that proceeds to instigate all of the Lumberjacks just entering the, like, all of the Lumberjacks commence. 

Kelsey Silva [25:28 - 25:29]: Every last one. 

Xavier [25:30 - 25:52]: Yeah. No, fully. And so they were all brawling in there, and I thought they were just gonna throw it, throw out the match after that, I thought it was like, okay, here we go. Like, this isn't working no more. So. But no, just as quickly as they came, they scattered. It was like taking, like, a flame to, like, a pile of ants. You're like, yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [25:52 - 25:56]: First it was like the light to attract the moths, and then it was like they turned out the light and. 

Xavier [25:56 - 26:22]: They all, like, fully just went to the next. It was so funny, so crazy. But in the. The fray of it all getting all of the Lumberjacks, like, out of the ring, at one point, Mosh rolls up one of the Godwins for a quick pin, picks up the victory. And now the headbangers have a victory over the tag team champions. So, hey, they're not done with you just yet. 

Kelsey Silva [26:22 - 26:25]: No, we all fight. 

Xavier [26:25 - 26:55]: No, fully. And I thought, to me, it's like, it seems like they want to give the titles to Lodge, but they couldn't go from headbangers to lod because they're both, like, fan favorites. So I feel like they. They went Headbangers, Godwins, lod. We'll see how that goes, how that shapes out that. But I feel like that's kind of what I feel like is happening, but I don't know, because headbangers just picked up a win. 

Kelsey Silva [26:55 - 27:18]: So I don't know what's happening in attack team arena. I'm really not sure, but it's like, I. Yeah, I don't know. I. I wish that, like, we had said that the headbangers run was longer. It's weird for me that the Godwin suddenly acquire uncle Kalitus, and suddenly they're out here, tag team champions once again. I don't know what's happening, but I guess we'll find out. 

Xavier [27:18 - 27:32]: No, yeah, very much. Very much. We'll find out. Because there's still, like, nine tag teams like, that were surrounding the ring that, like, we haven't seen, like, a hot minute like the new Blackjacks. Hello. Oh, yeah. Where have you been? 

Kelsey Silva [27:32 - 27:32]: Where have you been? 

Xavier [27:32 - 27:35]: The sultan there. Why? I don't know. 

Kelsey Silva [27:35 - 27:36]: He was just, like. 

Xavier [27:36 - 27:37]: He was just there. 

Kelsey Silva [27:37 - 27:50]: Like, I love when they're all just standing out there and, like, it's. They're obviously there's themselves, like, as wrestlers but also they're just like, hey, so what's up? Like, I don't know. I just think the concept is so silly. Them all. 

Xavier [27:50 - 28:15]: I know. I. I love it. But we. We'll see what. What happens next between this or, like, if we get any kind of, like, actual division kind of form up. That would be real nice because it's always just like. It always feels random. Whoever is the number one contender. Because I'm just like, okay, sure. I know. 

Kelsey Silva [28:15 - 28:22]: I can't wait till we have, like, a little. I feel like we need a little structure or something to the tag team area. 

Xavier [28:23 - 29:04]: So next we get a little backstage segment with Miguel of the Boricuas. He's basically just like, I'm gonna beat up Mark Miro in two minutes. And then he switches to span Spanish, and he's essentially the gist of it all. For those of you who don't speak Spanish and or didn't watch are just like, if you think you're gonna get one over on us, think again. After we're done taking care of you, Sable's gonna want to hang out with us instead. And we're like, oh, okay, there. I love for some reason in the WWF that, like, women managers are just, like, traded. I don't know. It's just. It's so weird. It's such a weird. 

Kelsey Silva [29:04 - 29:09]: They're like Pokemon cards. Like, if I beat you in battle, I get to take your most valuable. 

Xavier [29:09 - 29:10]: No, yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [29:10 - 29:11]: It's your most valuable Pokemon. 

Xavier [29:11 - 29:14]: I was like, all right, I didn't. 

Kelsey Silva [29:14 - 29:18]: Expect this from you. Barique was. I thought better of you. 

Xavier [29:18 - 29:24]: Oh, well, you should have expected it from them. Just. 

Kelsey Silva [29:24 - 29:25]: That's my bad. 

Xavier [29:25 - 30:06]: I'm just basing this on relatives, so throwing them all under the bus. Don't care. So listen, you objectify women, that's. That's on you. But I'm not gonna defend you. That's crazy. So we get the return of Mark Miro in this next match, and boy, oh, boy, does he look different. The last time we saw Mark Miro, it had to have been. I mean, the last time we saw Mark Mero wrestle, it has to have been at least, like, 10 months. Like, it's been. Yeah, a while. 

Kelsey Silva [30:06 - 30:09]: I was gonna say between eight to ten months. 

Xavier [30:09 - 30:09]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [30:09 - 30:10]: Really? That long? 

Xavier [30:11 - 30:22]: Yeah, it's. It was a. Like, a very serious knee injury, so he was out for a hot minute, which has been real sad because that means we've seen significantly less Sable. 

Kelsey Silva [30:22 - 30:23]: Really upsetting. 

Xavier [30:24 - 30:24]: Really? 

Kelsey Silva [30:24 - 30:25]: My homegirls. 

Xavier [30:25 - 30:28]: No, for real. But he got a new haircut. 

Kelsey Silva [30:30 - 30:32]: Girl, he looks. 

Xavier [30:32 - 30:59]: Yeah, he loves it. He went from that, like, 1980s, like, like, poofy mullet thing into just like a. He. He dragged his own ass into the 90s. He said, let's go buzzed. His hair, thick ass, mustache is really leaning into the. His boxing background. He is a Golden Gloves boxer, so. 

Kelsey Silva [31:00 - 31:07]: He'S been back to his roots and. Right, his hair roots and his boxing. Absolutely Going right back to the root. 

Xavier [31:07 - 31:08]: God. 

Kelsey Silva [31:08 - 31:09]: Looks good. 

Xavier [31:09 - 31:16]: He looked great. I thought it was he. I don't know if you notice it's a very different style from him. 

Kelsey Silva [31:16 - 31:16]: Yes. 

Xavier [31:17 - 31:28]: Wrestling wise. Because he's not like, he's not flip, flying, flopping all over the ring anymore. He said, yes. I thought, no, I busted my knee. We're not doing all that. 

Kelsey Silva [31:28 - 31:34]: And I will miss the shooting star press. It was so stunning as his finisher. 

Xavier [31:34 - 31:34]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [31:35 - 31:35]: Yes. But. 

Xavier [31:35 - 31:37]: But the new finisher is pretty good. 

Kelsey Silva [31:38 - 32:23]: Fierce love. I mean, and I just think now his aesthetic matches Sable's. And not that that's always the goal, but when it comes to Sable, it should be right. But I just like the all, like, she's wearing the all black catsuit with the, like, the chains, and she's the whip. Whip. The whip. And then he comes in with the obviously, like the satin boxing hood, the satin boxing shorts, like, oh, the buzz cut. Girl, he looked amazing. I actually love this, and I'm excited because I feel like. Like I don't know what comes for Mark Miro, but I mean, the boxing roots. I feel like we could, like, link up with Ken Shamrock. Like, I don't know. There's, like, things here. Like, there's more things that are here. 

Xavier [32:23 - 32:24]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [32:24 - 32:26]: I'm just very excited for this. 

Xavier [32:26 - 32:49]: Yes. Yes. It's great. Any. He hits us with a new finisher, which is essentially like a. It's a cutter of some kind. But he starts them off in, like, a torture rack position where the person's like, on. Across his shoulders, and then he kind of. He throws them and turns it into a cutter. So not dissimilar to like, a stone cold stunner or like an arcade. 

Kelsey Silva [32:49 - 32:50]: That's what it's gonna be. 

Xavier [32:50 - 33:09]: Yeah. They're very in the same family, but it's a, you know, it looks very different on how he gets into it. So I thought it was great. I thought it was a good showing for him. Glad to see him back and off the injured list because that means when we get table and. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [33:09 - 33:11]: Period. Being that we have and the body. 

Xavier [33:13 - 33:16]: Unmatched, really, really, really great. 

Kelsey Silva [33:17 - 33:21]: And the tan Is not overdone anymore either. It's like just right. Because before. 

Xavier [33:22 - 33:25]: Crispy, crispy. 

Kelsey Silva [33:25 - 33:26]: And that's your choice. 

Xavier [33:26 - 33:28]: That's fine if you. 

Kelsey Silva [33:28 - 33:32]: But this. I mean, he looked great. I can't say it enough. 

Xavier [33:33 - 33:50]: Good for him. Good for him. And then we get a crazy segment, guys. Jim Cornette said. He said, hold my earrings, hold my baby. I'm going in. 

Kelsey Silva [33:50 - 33:55]: He said, is this mic on? Hello? And he check 1, 2. 

Xavier [33:55 - 34:07]: He said, the library's open. We're reading today. And he read, everyone to filth. Everyone to filth. 

Kelsey Silva [34:07 - 34:10]: He goes, annihilated. No survivors. 

Xavier [34:10 - 34:58]: He goes. He goes, these are not necessary. These are my thoughts. Not necessarily that of the WWF or anybody else's, but they should be. And then goes into. And just starts wailing. He's like, you have people like Arne Anderson, Ric Flair, like Mick Foley, people who, like, mastered their craft really putting in the work, like, getting, like, disrespected and, like, not getting the air time that, like, they deserve. And, like, the. After years and years of putting their, like, body bodies on the line for this business. But you got people like the NWO who get all this attention. And he's like, oh. And they act like, like children. He's like, all they gotta do is act like themselves. A bunch of, like, immature, like, oh, it was so good. He's like, immature, delinquent. Like, all this stuff. And you're like, oh, no talent. 

Kelsey Silva [34:58 - 35:00]: Having crazy. Gotta be themselves. 

Xavier [35:00 - 35:13]: Great. And then he goes in and starts rattling them off. He goes, he goes, kevin Nash. He's like, kevin Nash. He's. He has, he. He goes. He has six moves and no range. 

Kelsey Silva [35:13 - 35:19]: Of, like, movement, mobility and zero and zero mobility. 

Xavier [35:19 - 36:53]: And he's like. And after, like, we pushed him to, like, the moon, he takes his. His, like, ball and goes. Goes somewhere else. After he said he was going to stay, by the way, which also makes him a liar. And you're like, oh. And then he goes. And then there's Scott hall, who's a good wrestler, but that's about it. And you're like, oh, good, good. He said, good, not great. Love to see it. And then he goes on to address the 1, 2, 3 kid, or 6, wherever you want to call him. He's 6. In WCW, he's a 1, 2, 3 kid. Here he becomes Xbox when he comes returns. The only reason he's employed is because his friends think it's funny when he gets drunk and throws up on him himself. What? What? What? And then he goes and talks. And then he goes and addresses the big kahuna of wcw. And he's like. And Eric Bischoff. And he's like, he's like, he's not just an announcer. He's like his name is on the credits. Look. He's in charge of this. And he's like all of that is is his doing. Somebody who likes to spend billionaires money just so that he can have friends. He likes to surround himself with these big buff bearded dudes so that he can hang out with them and hopefully some of their whatever will rub off on him to make him feel like his johnson is bigger. And you're like holy shits. 

Kelsey Silva [36:53 - 36:55]: Holy Johnston. 

Xavier [36:55 - 37:01]: Holy. He said little pee pee. He said that's so crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [37:01 - 37:05]: He's I he said little dick Mr. 

Xavier [37:06 - 37:24]: No, he, I was not expecting this. I don't know what I was expecting from Jim Cornette. But they said go off. No, no rules, no rails. Go go. He said shoot, go shoot shoot. 

Kelsey Silva [37:24 - 37:29]: And he shot he point blank range. 

Xavier [37:29 - 37:30]: So crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [37:30 - 37:33]: Straight to the cranium. My God. 

Xavier [37:33 - 37:37]: No. Like it is like a clinic crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [37:37 - 37:48]: I I him standing in front of a velvet curtain and just the mic and he just, just annihilated and annihilated. 

Xavier [37:48 - 37:59]: He said, oh, I got 30 seconds. Bet runs through these. Said you, you're trash. You're trash. You're trash. Oh good. 

Kelsey Silva [37:59 - 38:02]: No talent. Small penis. 

Xavier [38:02 - 38:23]: I was just like I he Jim Cornette said I'm coming to read the dolls today. And he and boy did he. Boy did he. I was. I cannot say enough about this promo. If you are somebody who knows nothing about wrestling, go watch that promo. 

Kelsey Silva [38:23 - 38:24]: Go watch, go. 

Xavier [38:24 - 38:30]: Right, because that is magic from start to finish. That's a scoot baby. 

Kelsey Silva [38:31 - 38:43]: Jim, I used to hate you so bad and I would like to formally apologize. And it started when you you came in as color commentator a few weeks ago and filled in for Jerry. And I was like oh wait a minute. I miss Jim. 

Xavier [38:43 - 38:44]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [38:44 - 38:48]: And then Jim read the girls and I forgot how much I love Jim. 

Xavier [38:48 - 38:49]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [38:49 - 39:03]: Because Jim reads the girls and it's always fact, not fiction. And obviously it's an opinion. This was like a verbal op ed piece. No, he was like, this is my opinion. But you, you guys are gonna sit here and and listen to it. 

Xavier [39:03 - 39:05]: No. 100 if I have to spoon feed it to you. 

Kelsey Silva [39:05 - 39:11]: If I have to spoon feed it to you and I won't get up like, oh, oh my God. It was so crazy. 

Xavier [39:11 - 39:20]: Like I have expected like turn around to just see like all of their heads just blown off. Just like Smoke just coming out the. Just. Oh, my God. 

Kelsey Silva [39:20 - 39:23]: Like, he said good night and there was blood just on the hand. 

Xavier [39:24 - 39:25]: No, fully. He was. 

Kelsey Silva [39:25 - 39:47]: And let me say this. You and I have said this about Eric Bischoff many times. Oh, you're like, he just buys his friends. He collects them all, and he pays them a lot so that they have to stay near him. And it's proof when he ends up joining nwo. I'm sorry. Like, he's like, I have to be closer. I. I have to live inside your skin. 

Xavier [39:47 - 40:30]: Like, it's not enough to, like. It's not enough to just, like, be running the whole thing and, like, produce. Be making the decision behind the. The, like, behind the scenes. No, no, no. I have to make myself the. On. Like, it was so dumb, because it's just like, you. It is known that you are the boss, like, in charge. And then you join this faction whose entire purpose is to be like, a rival faction that is looking to supplant the one, the company that is there. So when the boss of the company joins the rival company, then you're just like, okay, well, then they've one. They. There is no. 

Kelsey Silva [40:30 - 40:32]: They want. They. You ruined it. 

Xavier [40:32 - 40:38]: You. They won. There is nothing for them to chase anymore because they won. Like, you. 

Kelsey Silva [40:38 - 40:40]: Like, hello. 

Xavier [40:40 - 40:41]: So dumb. 

Kelsey Silva [40:41 - 40:51]: Wait. I mean, wow. He really said he spends. He's Ted Turner's little bitch with a check who has a tiny penis. 

Xavier [40:51 - 40:52]: It was crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [40:52 - 40:57]: And buys all his friends with somebody. He said he buys all his friends with someone else's money. 

Xavier [40:57 - 40:58]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [40:58 - 41:13]: That is diabolical, girl. You can't even use your own money to buy your own friends. You have to use big daddy's money. That is insane. Absolutely, Jim. Well done, Jim. Absolutely incredible. 

Xavier [41:13 - 41:14]: That was. 

Kelsey Silva [41:14 - 41:17]: And he said more to come afterward. He was like, more to follow. 

Xavier [41:17 - 41:21]: There's more. Please, no. Please do this every week. 

Kelsey Silva [41:21 - 41:22]: Every week. 

Xavier [41:22 - 41:26]: Oh, please. Run down the lists. They got lots of people that need to be talked about over there. 

Kelsey Silva [41:26 - 41:34]: Yeah, I want them to have a. A roster and a little laser pointer and just go, okay, today we're talking about 100. 

Xavier [41:34 - 41:43]: I want it broken down like the emperor's new groove is broken down. You know what I mean? Like, I want. I want him to be like, mid promo. Like, pause and be like, what I. 

Kelsey Silva [41:43 - 41:52]: Mean here is, like, what I said was this, right? What was happening was this. Oh, yes, yes, yes, yes. 

Xavier [41:52 - 41:57]: But honestly, so amazing read. Read of the decade as far as I'm concerned. 

Kelsey Silva [41:57 - 41:58]: Beautiful. 

Xavier [41:58 - 42:18]: Amazing. Cannot go on enough. Definitely check it out if you have not October 6, 1997. Rocky Maivia takes on the British Bulldog in our next match. This one's kind of short and sweet. We get a she loves Davey boy's ass sign. Love to see with a little arrow. 

Kelsey Silva [42:18 - 42:23]: And we are my friend, and she is we. And we are all together, girl. 

Xavier [42:24 - 42:30]: 100%. Because the sentiment is so true, so. 

Kelsey Silva [42:31 - 42:33]: Mutual, and you are safe here. 

Xavier [42:33 - 42:51]: No, 100%. Junior. At one point, he's like, trying to talk up Rocky Maivia, but he's like. He's like. He's like an intelligent young man. Blah, blah, blah, blah. And then he goes. He can actually put sentences together. Not the flex you think it is. Junior. 

Kelsey Silva [42:51 - 42:54]: Junior. I was like, no. 

Xavier [42:54 - 43:04]: Saying that he can. Like, the surprise that he can actually put sentences together is not bolstering him the way you think it is. 

Kelsey Silva [43:05 - 43:09]: And when Vince McMahon has to bail you out, that's. That's a bad day. 

Xavier [43:09 - 43:10]: That's what I'm saying. 

Kelsey Silva [43:10 - 43:15]: Well, actually, they're. Everyone in the nation is. Is incredibly intelligent and blah, blah, blah. 

Xavier [43:15 - 43:16]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [43:16 - 43:19]: When Vince McMahon is bailing you out of what you just said. 

Xavier [43:19 - 43:57]: That's what I'm saying. 100. And of course, both members of this match are flanked by their factions. So all of the Heart foundation is out. All the nation domination is out. Jim Ross on commentary is like, isn't it like, I don't know what Sergeant Slaughter is doing, like, letting all these people, like, come out here. And Jerry swear Vince goes like. I was like, oh, I think, like, it's kind of like a no win job. Like, you're never gonna be like, the. You're always gonna be the bad guy. Which is like, okay, fine, but come out here and be the bad guy. 

Kelsey Silva [43:58 - 44:17]: Thank you. Don't even have him there at all. If you're like, well, then he's commissioner. Commissioner. He is the law. Nobody likes the law. Like, of course, no one wants to. No one wants someone telling them what to do. What did you think they were like, oh, my God, this is so amazing. Yeah. 

Xavier [44:17 - 44:29]: No, no. And then Jerry calls Sergeant Slaughter a mental. So crazy. That's so crazy. We're like, all right. 

Kelsey Silva [44:30 - 44:33]: And normally I love an alliteration. 

Xavier [44:33 - 44:36]: I know. But that was crazy. That was crazy. It just took me out. 

Kelsey Silva [44:37 - 44:38]: Bad taste. 

Xavier [44:38 - 45:11]: So nuts. We get a beautiful delayed suplex from the Bulldog, as he is known for, followed by one of his patented power slams, which gets him the victory. And so after the match, the. The Heart foundation celebrating with the British Bulldog in the ring as you do. And Farouk comes in, which is like, with his leather belt. He said, oh, my God. I had. I had flashbacks. I was like, jesus Christ, am I getting disciplined? Like, what's happening? He came in. 

Kelsey Silva [45:11 - 45:12]: Did I miss you? 

Xavier [45:12 - 45:17]: It started swanging, that thing, wailing on them. 

Kelsey Silva [45:17 - 45:26]: I was like, this was so bold. He was. He just jumped in the ring against four men with his leather strap and said, you will listen to this. Smack, smack. 

Xavier [45:26 - 45:47]: And he went right after Owen. Due to the events of bad blood, as we know. And then he started just making his way around. I was like, gee, like, sergeant. Sergeant Slaughter. Where. Where are you? Only then does he eventually, like, make his way out and start, like, trying to, like, separate all of this chaos. And I was like, you could have stopped the chaos. You could have. 

Kelsey Silva [45:47 - 45:48]: You didn't even have to get here. 

Xavier [45:48 - 45:49]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [45:49 - 45:50]: It wouldn't have even started. 

Xavier [45:50 - 46:04]: No. 100%. All for weeks and weeks and weeks. You're stopping everybody halfway up the ramp and dragging them to the back. Now all of a sudden, they can do whatever they want again. And then you come out, like, after the fact, like, hey, don't do that. 

Kelsey Silva [46:04 - 46:06]: Like, it makes no sense. 

Xavier [46:07 - 46:59]: No. No, it does not. Crazy. Next, we get a interview with Stone Cold because he's got some questions to answer. Last week, before bad blood, Vince McMahon basically left him with three options. One being he go and get a doctor's note saying that he can wrestle again, which no doctor on the face of the earth is going to give him. Two, we can sign a release, essentially. What am I. What is the word? I am thinking of relinquishing all responses. Yeah. Like, wavering all responsibility from the WF for anything that may happen to him. So cool. Love to see that. Or get fired is essentially the gist of that. 

Kelsey Silva [46:59 - 46:59]: Right? 

Xavier [47:00 - 47:19]: So first, this McMahon comes out, and he's like, before we get to, you know, brass tacks, why did you hit Farouk? And he's like, well, what I do is none of your damn business. And quite frankly, even if you are the owner, still none of your damn business. So if I don't want to answer your question, I'm not gonna answer your question. 

Kelsey Silva [47:19 - 47:20]: You're like, okay, I just won't. 

Xavier [47:20 - 47:41]: Thanks. And you're like, damn, this feels like a Real Housewives reunion. No questions answered. So. So basically, Vince is like, okay, so you don't have a paper? I don't see one. So I'm assuming you didn't go to a doctor. And Steve's like, nope, I did not see any doctor. 

Kelsey Silva [47:43 - 47:47]: He's so funny for that. No, I. I haven't seen Any doctors at all. 

Xavier [47:47 - 48:13]: Why so funny? And he goes. He goes. Week in, week out, you talk about how I'm the toughest S.O.B. blah, blah, blah, blah. And he's like, what I'm not, though, is I am not dumb. I'm not just gon sign this little piece of paper because you want me to sign this little piece of paper. He's like, what I can do is you can guarantee me Owen Hart for the Intercontinental Championship, and then I'll sign you a little paper. And. 

Kelsey Silva [48:13 - 48:15]: And that's negotiating. 

Xavier [48:15 - 48:52]: And Vince goes like, oh, yeah. Like, you have it. Like, you have my word. And Stone Cold's like, you think I'm just gonna come out here, shake your little hand and trust you, please? He goes. He goes, no, no, no. You go get a piece of paper. You signed that little piece of paper, and then I will sign this. He's like. He's like, no, no. We are not doing no legalities on a handshake, all right? That's how. That's how Diesel and Scott hall ended up somewhere else. All right? Your legalities with a handshake. You think you'd learn, Vince, like, swear, like. 

Kelsey Silva [48:52 - 48:56]: And that's also no shade. That's the Paul Heyman way. And we all know how that went, right? 

Xavier [48:56 - 48:58]: That's what I'm saying. That's what I'm saying. 

Kelsey Silva [48:58 - 49:06]: So you can get the. The legal paperwork out here, and I'll have my lawyers contact your lawyers. But handshake is crazy. 

Xavier [49:06 - 49:07]: Crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [49:07 - 49:10]: And then witnesses. I don't care. 

Xavier [49:10 - 49:41]: No. Yeah. Farouk shows up on the Titan Tron, and basically it's just like, oh, like, you think you're tough because you, like, curse and this, that the other. And then, like, hits us with a. Like, back in my. I had to walk, like, up the hill both ways to get to school. You're like, okay. It just. A lot of the promos from Farouk really feel like that, and I'm getting a little, like, tired of the shtick. Like, give me something else. So, like, I was like, geez, I. 

Kelsey Silva [49:41 - 49:44]: Recognize your struggle, but I need a new. 

Xavier [49:44 - 50:03]: I need a new plot point. Like, like, give me something. Give me another promo. I'll wait. And then he goes on to be like, oh, like, when you use the word ass, like, let me tell you what that means in the context of the nation, as in, your ass is mine. And you're like, oh, okay. Love to. Love to see that also. 

Kelsey Silva [50:03 - 50:04]: I liked that, actually. 

Xavier [50:04 - 50:20]: Yeah. Yeah. I was like, okay. Love that. And then Stone Cold grabs the mic and he's like, oh, don't worry. As soon as I'm done with my little legalities over here, I'll kick all your asses. Don't. Don't you fret. 

Kelsey Silva [50:20 - 50:25]: It's like, yeah, don't. Don't worry your little head about it. He's like, lose a wink of sleep. 

Xavier [50:25 - 50:31]: He's like, I'm not gonna move you up the priorities list. Like, let's not get crazy. But don't worry, you're on there. 

Kelsey Silva [50:31 - 50:33]: You're still on the list. 

Xavier [50:33 - 50:34]: No, 100. 

Kelsey Silva [50:34 - 50:40]: There's one reservation ahead of you, but if you wait, right, 100. 

Xavier [50:40 - 51:00]: No, 100% crazy. Crazy, crazy. And then. So then Farouk ends up off the Titan Tron. Stone Cold is celebrating. He runs out of the ring, grabs the king's crown and punts it. Just punts it into the crowd. Love to see it. 

Kelsey Silva [51:00 - 51:15]: What I loved about it so much is that he grabs it from the commentator table and I thought he was going to punt it right there, but he decides to get into the ring for maximum puntage. Like, it's like, you will all see this. 

Xavier [51:15 - 51:16]: No fully. 

Kelsey Silva [51:16 - 51:23]: And the guy who ends up with it is so happy. Like, a guy gets. And he puts it on and he's just like. 

Xavier [51:25 - 51:26]: Oh, my God. 

Kelsey Silva [51:26 - 51:28]: Oh, my God, I got a prize. 

Xavier [51:30 - 51:30]: I love that. 

Kelsey Silva [51:30 - 51:33]: I hope he feels special and I hope he still has it. 

Xavier [51:34 - 51:59]: Honestly. Honestly. So that is the end of that. So we'll see if Stone Cold gets his match that he's looking for next. We get a promo from Road Warrior Hawk. It's short, sweet, to the point. Basically, he goes, owen Hart. You're like a loogie in my throat. You're like, oh, okay. He's like, it only takes one good to. To clear it. And you're like, okay. 

Kelsey Silva [52:01 - 52:11]: Well, his brain whale. His brain is. Is fascinating to me. What is going on up there, you. 

Xavier [52:11 - 52:14]: Know, in Halloween town too, where all the lost things. 

Kelsey Silva [52:14 - 52:21]: I would go, yes, because I was just gonna say that. I swear to God, I feel like. 

Xavier [52:21 - 52:33]: He'S pulling like, his promos from. From that guy mismatched socks. He's like, it's always grody. Like, it's always something just like a little gross. 

Kelsey Silva [52:33 - 52:38]: Like, leave. Yeah, it's never too much, but it's always a little. 

Xavier [52:38 - 52:42]: No, like, could definitely be found in, like, a boy's room, but, like, still. 

Kelsey Silva [52:42 - 52:48]: Just like, oh, definitely an odor. And we're not sure what it is. 

Xavier [52:48 - 52:50]: Right, right, right. It's just always a little. 

Kelsey Silva [52:50 - 52:54]: But the washing machine can take. Can take it out like, take out the right. 

Xavier [52:54 - 52:57]: It's not. No, fully. It's still, like, you know, family friendly. 

Kelsey Silva [52:57 - 53:11]: It's not permanent damage. Yeah. I was like. I was literally thinking. I was like, what is that place in that movie where there's, like, just a bunch of lost objects? And then you literally said it. I was like, oh, my God. That's exactly what I was thinking of. 

Xavier [53:11 - 53:17]: Oh, no, that is. That is where Hawk is getting his inspo. I swear. 

Kelsey Silva [53:17 - 53:18]: And I love that. 

Xavier [53:18 - 54:14]: No, honestly. Next we get a promo from Owen Hart, and he's like, I can't wait to get singing a different, different tune. He's like, I can't wait to get my hands on Austin. He's like, I'm not scared of you. I'm the best. And you're like, all right, I know. He's so funny. And he's like, take your best shot, son. Just like, okay. Love to see it. Then that takes us into The Owen Hart vs Road Warrior Hawk match for the Intercontinental Championship. Love to see it. I thought this was, like, pretty. Pretty great for the most part. Like, there wasn't too much that was, like, outlandish. Like, the interferences and stuff that did happen. Made sense. Hawk hits Owen with a military press slam followed by a neck breaker. Oh, yeah. That always makes Kelsey, like, cringe a little bit. I think you said anything with anything. 

Kelsey Silva [54:14 - 54:27]: With the neck, especially after Stone Cold. I. Anything with the neck generally, like when they get tangled in the ropes, the pile drivers, neck breakers, blah, blah, blah, anything like that. Just icky, icky. No. 

Xavier [54:30 - 55:16]: Hawk goes to follow Owen into the corner, ends up in the ring post for his troubles. Owen hits him with an in Ziguri. The Godwins come out because of the involvement of the Legion of Doom in the earlier match. They feel they cost. The God wins the the win. Owen hits Hawk with a low blow while the referee isn't looking crazy. And as the match continues, the Godwins basically are using any opportunity to get involved. They try and hit Hawk in the back with the bucket. Doesn't really do too, too much at first. As soon as that happens, that sets off Animal in the back, because he said, huh? Not my friend. 

Kelsey Silva [55:16 - 55:18]: And that's my friend. 

Xavier [55:18 - 55:28]: No. 100 comes down. It's like, okay, we're gonna do something about that then. No, fully. You can't be a tag team for that long. And, like, not immediately, just especially lod. 

Kelsey Silva [55:28 - 55:37]: There's no way that Hawk is getting his, like, you know, his side of gravy and animals not coming out there, like, that's the Legion of Doom. 

Xavier [55:37 - 56:10]: That's what I'm saying. One in the same. Really? Two sides, same coin. Yeah. So animal comes down. Of course, the Godwins cheap shot Hawk with a. A horseshoe. They hit. Henry Godwin hits so crazy Hawk in the head with a horseshoe, which allows Owen to pick up the victory, much like he won the night prior to win the title. Now he's just getting help from everybody. Sorry, Owen. He did it all by himself. He'll tell you. 

Kelsey Silva [56:10 - 56:12]: All by himself. All by himself. 

Xavier [56:12 - 56:14]: He'll tell. He'll tell you. He did it all by himself. 

Kelsey Silva [56:15 - 56:17]: In his defense, though, he's never asking for help. 

Xavier [56:18 - 56:18]: No. 

Kelsey Silva [56:18 - 56:22]: Like, it's just falling from the sky, like out of the blue. 

Xavier [56:23 - 56:23]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [56:23 - 56:27]: Because he's in the middle of, of the beef. So where's. 

Xavier [56:27 - 56:29]: Where's the beef? Right here. 

Kelsey Silva [56:29 - 56:36]: Where is the beef? They say they want people. Where's my burger at? I mean, no lies, okay? 

Xavier [56:36 - 57:23]: No lies. So next we get one of the most I. One of the most uncomfortable segments I've ever had to witness in like wrestling. It is just so distasteful and disgusting. Yeah, it's not. Not a, not a move. They interview Melanie Pillman Not 24 hours after the passing of her husband. They said they drag her out here. And it's the. Not. It's not just the. Like, it's bad enough that they are having her do this at all. 

Kelsey Silva [57:24 - 57:24]: Yes. 

Xavier [57:24 - 58:23]: Let alone the questions that are asked. It is period, so disgusting and so disrespectful and like, it's crazy because we there, like she's asked about like, so basically like explain like how your husband died is the first question generally. And. And she's like, well, there was a problem with his heart, like we didn't know about and there was some kind of like stress on his heart and he had a heart attack in his sleep beat. So it's like, okay. And then Vince goes on to ask, he's like, oh, well, there's usually like a lot of like mystery surrounding when a 35 year old like suddenly passes. So like, could you like, put to bed any like, rumors or whatever about like potential like drug use and blood? And you're like, what are you doing? 

Kelsey Silva [58:23 - 58:26]: Filthy. What are you guilty? 

Xavier [58:27 - 58:28]: No. Really? 

Kelsey Silva [58:28 - 58:31]: That is nasty work. That is nasty work. 

Xavier [58:31 - 58:50]: That is crazy. Not. This man is not even in the ground yet. And you're making sure that you're putting in work to make it look like if he did die of drugs, that it was all of his, like doing like, and not because he was putting his body through hell for you. Like, that's crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [58:50 - 59:18]: Like, using the widow, who her husband is not even cold yet, to exonerate your company from any blame is so beyond me and disturbing. Because also, you know what's so crazy? And I was thinking about this. Like, there is no way their living room is just like that. Like, they had people go to her house and stage that living room the way it was. There is no way that's what their living room looks like. Like, with the. 

Xavier [59:18 - 59:19]: The. 

Kelsey Silva [59:19 - 59:44]: The pictures and like, the. Like, the. Someone went to her house shortly after he died and staged that. Like, that also disgusts me because it's the forethought, and I don't like that. Like, but using the grieving widow of not 24 hours to exonerate you, you and your nasty little company. Not that I'm using that, whatever. To exonerate you and your company. 

Xavier [59:44 - 59:45]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [59:45 - 59:53]: From the potential that he might have been given drugs by. Like that. Yes. What is wrong with you? 

Xavier [59:53 - 59:55]: So many things. So many things. 

Kelsey Silva [59:55 - 59:56]: Because then it gets worse. 

Xavier [59:57 - 1:00:39]: It gets so much worse. He goes. She talks about, like, oh, like, how this could be, like, your husband. Or, like, she doesn't want anything like this to happen to anybody else. And she's like, you don't want to see, like, somebody else, like, orphan, like, their kids. Like, my husband. Like, there's five kids at play here. Like, this woman. Yeah, they have five kids. So it's like, she's like, I can't imagine how overwhelmed she is just dealing with the. The shock of it all, let alone the realities of what comes next. Because then, oh, it's so crazy. He goes on to be like, so, like, what are you gonna do to support your five children? 

Kelsey Silva [1:00:39 - 1:00:40]: And she's like. 

Xavier [1:00:40 - 1:00:56]: And she like, vince, like, I don't even know what day it is right now. Like, I don't. Like, she's like, I. I haven't, like, less than 24 hours. Less than 20. How are you going to support your kid? How are you gonna support her kids? 

Kelsey Silva [1:00:57 - 1:00:59]: Thank you so much. 

Xavier [1:00:59 - 1:03:38]: How are you gonna do it on your watch? He was. He was. He performed the night before. He was staying in a hotel in that city because he was performing for you. And, like, you're being like, oh, like, what are you going to do to support your. She. He died yesterday. Yesterday. You are so. What kind of, like, gross, like, evil, like, behavior is, like, yesterday? And you're going to drag this poor woman, like, stress out of her fucking mind out here to, like, what. What was the Purpose. Because it wasn't to like, it wasn't to set up the video package for, for Brian Pillman. It wasn't. Because the question, the only question you should have asked her, you waited to ask last and you didn't. And by the time you got to it, she was so distraught she couldn't even give you an actual answer. Like, you're. It was, it was. How would you like Brian Pillman to be remembered? And like, she goes on to just be like, oh, like, like to like talk about him kindly. Great. But it's like, that's the only question you should have asked her. Like, how would you like your husband to be remembered? Like, if you're going to do all of this, like, at the very least, like, throw some respect on, like, on his name and like, yes, no, thank you. Like, and thank her for the time that she sacrificed away from her husband so that he could come and work for you. You like the. It's just this, like, it is so deplorable the way that this was handled. And it's so like, it's just like, it makes you feel disgusting. Like, I like, want, I want to shower. Because it's just like you really did that. Like you had zero qualms about dragging this woman on national television and then berating her with the most insensitive questions that I've ever heard in an interview. And like, you're just like, like okay with that. That is like you're totally kosher with how that went. And, and yet you want to act like it's such a, like inconvenience to you to like have to do these, like to do the salute. Like you shut down Jerry earlier when he was talking about like Owen and Brett, like coming out and wrestling after, like their friend passed away. You like shut him down. It's like, oh, like, we don't need to, like, like we don't need to talk about that. I was like, are you kidding me? Why, why is that such a negative thing like that, that their friends are being commended for pushing through and coming to work when their friend died yesterday. Yesterday. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:39 - 1:03:54]: But it's like what they said about Vince in his little documentary where it was like he never looks to the past, he now he always looks ahead and it's, it's because of things he cannot face. Like he, this was something he had to get through, not something he wanted to do for. 

Xavier [1:03:54 - 1:03:54]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:54 - 1:04:07]: It's so disturbing. It's like the first of all, the close in zoom on her crying face. First of all, her husband Died alone in a bed in a hotel room working for you. 

Xavier [1:04:07 - 1:04:07]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:04:07 - 1:04:15]: He had a heart attack in his sleep. Alone. Like, he literally died alone and had to be found by somebody because he didn't show up to work. 

Xavier [1:04:15 - 1:04:16]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:04:16 - 1:04:24]: And she has to be at home, and she's already had to relinquish, like you said, so much time with him and, like, his time with their kids. 

Xavier [1:04:24 - 1:04:51]: And mind you, one of the children is not even hers. She's a stepmother because. And then she goes on to. Just to talk about the fact that, like, the one child Brittany had, like, her mother had committed suicide two years prior, and then her father dies suddenly, like. And she's a teenager. Like, these are real people with, like, real life, your reality. And, like, you're dragging this woman out to. You're exploiting her. Like. 

Kelsey Silva [1:04:51 - 1:04:52]: Yes. 

Xavier [1:04:53 - 1:04:59]: And exploiting her so freshly, like you. The wound could not be more fresh. 

Kelsey Silva [1:04:59 - 1:05:00]: Like, oh, my God. 

Xavier [1:05:00 - 1:05:03]: So crazy. So crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [1:05:03 - 1:05:38]: The. The question of, how are you going to support your five children? And she's saying, I don't know. I don't know. I don't even know what date is. And then she says, like, well, the fans have been really supportive. Blah, blah, blah. It's almost. Almost like it felt so sinister to me because it's almost like that implication of, like, hopefully people will hear that and send you money, because I'm not gonna. Like, it gave an implication of, like, how are you gonna support your, like, pandering. Because he's not gonna send her. Like, that's what it felt like. Like, no, don't forget to mention the fans have been good to you, so maybe they'll send you some donations because. 

Xavier [1:05:38 - 1:05:39]: Yeah, right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:05:40 - 1:05:42]: If no one's wrestling for me, you're not getting a check. 

Xavier [1:05:42 - 1:05:55]: Like. And she, like. And she, like, like, said, like, briefly that, like. Like that. In that, like, fans, whatever. She does mention, like, the company, but it's like, I don't know. I. She just seemed uncomfortable by the whole thing. 

Kelsey Silva [1:05:55 - 1:06:02]: She said it like she was being held at gunpoint. She said, like, oh, in the company. The company's been great too. Like, right? 

Xavier [1:06:02 - 1:06:06]: And you're like. It's just so off. 

Kelsey Silva [1:06:06 - 1:06:06]: Horrible. 

Xavier [1:06:07 - 1:06:07]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:06:07 - 1:06:22]: So disgusting. And, like, just not. Not what. They should have asked her two questions. How are you holding up? We're so sorry for your loss. How. Like, we. We're sending you the best for your family. How do you want Brian to be remembered? That's it. 

Xavier [1:06:23 - 1:06:24]: And then go into the video. 

Kelsey Silva [1:06:24 - 1:06:26]: If you're gonna do it at all. If you're gonna do it. 

Xavier [1:06:26 - 1:06:26]: At all. 

Kelsey Silva [1:06:26 - 1:06:42]: Which you shouldn't have even done maybe in like, a few weeks or something, but, like, you shouldn't have even done in the first place. But if you are, we're so sorry. How are you doing? How are the children? We're sending you, blah, blah, blah. How do you want Brian to be remembered? Go into the video package, I swear. 

Xavier [1:06:42 - 1:06:48]: No, not, not. Let's, like, talk about, like, was he on drugs? Like, are you kidding me? 

Kelsey Silva [1:06:48 - 1:07:00]: Can you say clearly for the record that the WWE did not provide him with the drugs that caused his heart attack? Like, that's basically what it was. It was, it was like the Inquisition. Like, I. Oh, my God. 

Xavier [1:07:00 - 1:07:02]: I'm so just. I'm so disgusted. 

Kelsey Silva [1:07:02 - 1:07:18]: It so, so this poor woman. This poor woman. I, I. And I. I don't know if she agreed to it because she felt like she had to because she's literally in this, like, insane state of grief, and she didn't even know what was happening. Like, or maybe she. 

Xavier [1:07:19 - 1:07:28]: Or they, like, sold it to her. They're like, they were trying to, like, do something for, like, the. Or like, you know what I mean? Like, give him a moment. Blah, blah, blah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:07:28 - 1:07:30]: She was exploited, though. You're so right. 

Xavier [1:07:30 - 1:08:14]: Fully. She's like, you don't. You do not do that to somebody. Like, I don't care. Like, I just. You just don't. Like, you just. That's just not how you behave to somebody who lost their husband 24 hours ago. It's just not what you do. It's not what you ask them. It's like, in no scenario would any of those questions, other than how would you like your husband to be remembered be appropriate to ask somebody whose husband died the day before? And it doesn't really matter how long. Like, they're just not appropriate questions to ask. Like, and especially not on national television. Like, how are you supposed to support your five kids? Like, okay, put her on last. The, like, she just like, listen up, poor. 

Kelsey Silva [1:08:14 - 1:08:20]: Like, how are you gonna support those five little rugrats you got with that, man? Like, what are you talking about? 

Xavier [1:08:21 - 1:08:25]: So crazy. So gross. 

Kelsey Silva [1:08:25 - 1:08:27]: No, no, no, no, no. 

Xavier [1:08:27 - 1:08:37]: They hit us with what is a nice video package for Brian. Like, it's. It's like, it's voiced over by, like, Junior. Like, I was like, you could have just done that. 

Kelsey Silva [1:08:39 - 1:08:47]: Yes. Or just had. Or just had Junior handle it. Because honestly, I think he would have done a lot better than whatever the. The hell this was. Was. 

Xavier [1:08:47 - 1:08:47]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [1:08:47 - 1:08:56]: It felt like legalities. It felt literally like, we are having her exonerate us for legal reasons. 

Xavier [1:08:56 - 1:08:57]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:08:57 - 1:09:08]: And I just don't, like, I, I don't know. It's just really very, very upsetting and very disturbing and I, I don't understand. I just don't understand. 

Xavier [1:09:08 - 1:09:25]: And like, I don't know. Yeah, it's so in poor taste, but we're gonna move on from there because, you know, the show goes on. But yeah, not, not a good look for Vince or the WWF either way. 

Kelsey Silva [1:09:26 - 1:09:32]: No, I mean, there's zero self reflection. Like he'll never, he never learns, like, as we know. 

Xavier [1:09:32 - 1:10:06]: No. And this is like of the whole steroid trial and like him not wanting to be like under, like, like investigated again, like, you know, like it's a whole thing. But foul. Yeah. So next we are supposed to have a tag team match between the Hardy Boys. Love to see them and the Truth Commission. But instead the Hardy Boys are chilling in the ring, like waiting for the Truth Commission to come on out. Lights go out. Kane's music. Love to see it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:10:07 - 1:10:08]: That music is so good. 

Xavier [1:10:08 - 1:10:12]: It's so good. I love it. I love it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:10:12 - 1:10:13]: So good. 

Xavier [1:10:14 - 1:10:44]: So Kane makes his entrance, comes down with Paul Bear, hits us with that pot like that Four corner pyro. Love to see it. Just absolutely bodies the Hardy Boys. More babies. Double choke. Slams them, throws Matt out of the ring, takes Jeff, lifts him high over his head and yeets him as hard and far as he possibly could. The expression like, I couldn't trust him as far as I could throw him is not applicable to Kane. No. 

Kelsey Silva [1:10:46 - 1:10:54]: He uses that as like a term of saying, I trust you so much. I trust you as far as I could throw you. And that's really far. Like, he uses it in the reverse sense. 

Xavier [1:10:54 - 1:10:57]: So exactly like. And the only one who can, because. 

Kelsey Silva [1:10:57 - 1:10:59]: He the an amen. 

Xavier [1:10:59 - 1:11:04]: Because the force at which Jeff landed on his brother so crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [1:11:04 - 1:11:05]: The velocity. 

Xavier [1:11:05 - 1:11:06]: So crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [1:11:06 - 1:11:08]: So smack, smack crazy. 

Xavier [1:11:08 - 1:11:14]: Love to see. Love to see the Hardy Boys trickling their way into the wwf. Very, very. 

Kelsey Silva [1:11:14 - 1:11:28]: This is exactly what I'm talking about. The tag team energy we need. I want to see the Hardy Boys. I'm there. It'll be my next goal post. Because we have Kane, I'll start manifesting. The Hardy Boys love that action, though. 

Xavier [1:11:29 - 1:12:08]: So, yeah, I think we have. I think it's like late 98 when they like become the Hardy Boys, I think. But her. We'll see. We'll see. We'll see what comes. So then, yeah, Paul hits us with basically like an intro to Kane hits us with the, like, I did what I had to do. I was like, the Undertaker was. Was not going to listen to me. He didn't want me no more. He's like, I tried to. I tried to go back. He's like, I did. He's like, he. He beat me. He burned me. Like, neglecting to mention that he did all of these things first via. Thank you, his many operatives. But it's fine. 

Kelsey Silva [1:12:08 - 1:12:17]: You first. You did it first. And then he's like. And then he. Undertaker, wouldn't take me back. Because what you did was unforgivable. You loser. Like, just really made me mad. 

Xavier [1:12:17 - 1:13:01]: No, fully, fully, fully, fully, fully playing the victim. And then he goes on to talk about last night and the debut of Kane. He's like, we all saw your face, Undertaker. We know that this is legit because of the look on your face. You told us exactly everything that you. We needed to know that I wasn't lying. This is your brother. And basically, he's like. He goes on to say, which is a great line. This is the stop sign on your highway to eternity. Basically just being like, I. I know you. You got big plans. Stealing souls, all that good, but you're gonna pay attention to this. 

Kelsey Silva [1:13:02 - 1:13:04]: You have to pay the toll. 

Xavier [1:13:04 - 1:13:17]: Literally, literally. So. And then he goes on to say, we are going to destroy every wrestler one by one until we get to. You do. And I love to see that. That's. That's weird and scary. 

Kelsey Silva [1:13:18 - 1:13:21]: Oh, my. Kane scares me so bad. 

Xavier [1:13:21 - 1:13:26]: And they were zooming in, like, so close on the mask. Oh, it was so good. I loved it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:13:26 - 1:14:11]: Oh, my God. One, Paul is growing this nasty little mustache. And normally I love mustache. Actually, contrary to popular belief, I love a mustache, right? But that nasty little mustache. That's disgusting. Shave that. Two Kane scares the. The daylights out of me. And it's funny because, again, I've said this before. You know, so many people talk about how the Undertakers with. When they were kids, he was so scary. Like, terrifying to them. And for me, like, because I'm older and I know the Undertaker is a person now, like, the illusion was kind of lost on me. Pain. He really scares me. Like, he's so scary. Like, the. Zoom in on that. That ice blue eye. Like, he is like, oh, my God, the things from Game of Thrones. Why am I blanking the White Walkers? 

Xavier [1:14:11 - 1:14:12]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:14:12 - 1:14:49]: Like, so. And he's just staying there. And he's like a. Like, just vicious. Like, I don't know. Like, he is scary. I'm so. I love the mask. Like, I love how it's. I don't Whoever designs this stuff is like. I just love people who can make beautiful things like this. Like, I just. Because the specific ridges in it are so good to make him look angry without, like, painting it. Like, because it's painted with the red and the slashes and then there's, like, specific, like, indents to make him look. 

Xavier [1:14:50 - 1:14:52]: Yeah, it's the way the mask is, like, formed. It makes. 

Kelsey Silva [1:14:52 - 1:14:53]: Yeah. 

Xavier [1:14:53 - 1:14:54]: Look more intimidating. Like, it's. 

Kelsey Silva [1:14:54 - 1:14:55]: Oh, my God. 

Xavier [1:14:55 - 1:15:00]: It really pronounces the thing that make you look like. Like. Like scary or, like. 

Kelsey Silva [1:15:00 - 1:15:01]: Yes. 

Xavier [1:15:01 - 1:15:11]: Basically any light that you would. That would be accentuated by holding a flashlight under your nose and telling, like, a scary story is essentially what's accentuated on that mask. 

Kelsey Silva [1:15:11 - 1:15:12]: Oh, yes. 

Xavier [1:15:12 - 1:15:18]: Like, your big eyebrows, your big nose. Like. Yeah. So, like, the cheeks. 

Kelsey Silva [1:15:18 - 1:15:22]: Yeah. And, like, this little slit for a mouth. Like he's Hannibal Lecter. 

Xavier [1:15:22 - 1:15:23]: Like, he doesn't speak. 

Kelsey Silva [1:15:23 - 1:15:24]: Oh, my God. 

Xavier [1:15:25 - 1:15:27]: Like, for a long time, no speaking. 

Kelsey Silva [1:15:27 - 1:15:42]: Love that. I mean, this is so fierce. I love this more than I could possibly say. I'm so excited we're here. And, like, I'm really. Oh, I just love this. And the back half of Paul Bear's promo was fantastic. I mean, really, really, really good. Yeah, I will give him that. 

Xavier [1:15:43 - 1:15:57]: Yeah. No, he goes. He goes. He finishes out. He's like, we will always be right behind you. And he's like. And then right before Kane's music comes back on, he goes, welcome to your worst nightmare. Boom. Like, bomb. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:15:57 - 1:15:59]: Oh, my God. 

Xavier [1:15:59 - 1:16:00]: So, so good. 

Kelsey Silva [1:16:00 - 1:16:06]: Because I believe him. Yeah, I believe him. This feels like the worst thing that could have happened to the. 

Xavier [1:16:06 - 1:16:11]: And I fully believe that, like, they will run through everybody. Like, they. 

Kelsey Silva [1:16:11 - 1:16:13]: It'll be a phone yard. 

Xavier [1:16:13 - 1:16:20]: Not only are they, like, capable, they are willing, like, they are going to do it. And, like, I believe. 

Kelsey Silva [1:16:21 - 1:16:30]: Yes. They have the reason. They have the strength. And Undertaker's gonna have to reap the very souls that Kane is crushing on his way to him. 

Xavier [1:16:30 - 1:16:30]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:16:30 - 1:16:31]: Crazy. 

Xavier [1:16:31 - 1:16:32]: Love it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:16:32 - 1:16:47]: So good. And also, someone had a sign. They spelled Kane wrong, but it said Kane. Like, Kane rises again or something. Like, these kids in the audience had it. So fierce. But this is so good. I just love this. Can't say enough good things. 

Xavier [1:16:47 - 1:17:49]: Yeah, there's. Yeah, there's a. A lot of great storytelling to come on this one, so stay tuned. We've only just seen the beginning of Kane. So that takes us into our main event between Triple H, who is now officially going by Triple H with China, and taking on the WWF Champion, Bret Hart. The. This Is the only actual match in the entire. Of any length or note as far as anything that happened in the ring. So true. So true. They. The commentators make a point of saying that Triple H is acting like a teenager. And then Jerry just goes a jerk. And you're like, yep, yep. Very much so. Of course, Shawn Michaels makes his way down because he can't help but mess with Bret Hart. It's his fa. These are a few of my favorite things. Messing with Bret Hart is definitely one of them. He comes down and he starts picking his nose with the Canadian flag. Why not? Why who? Why not just add insult to injury? 

Kelsey Silva [1:17:49 - 1:17:55]: How would you even think of that? I would. He, like, shoves it up his nose as if he has a nosebleed, like. 

Xavier [1:17:55 - 1:18:48]: And he's just like, yep, leaving it there. Of course, that prompts all of the heart foundation to come down. The Bulldog, Owen and Neidhart, they make their presence known. I saw a sign that says, where is Yokozuna? And yeah, so we know what happened. During this time. He was given many opportunities to do something about his weight because it was affecting his ability to wrestle. Chose not to do so. Ends up getting released during this time. And we kind of know the rest of the story from there. If you don't know, we have an After Dark episode about it. You can go back and look at the life and times of Yokozuna. So. But I did. I just thought it was interesting that there was a sign that, like, some people are missing him, you know, I. 

Kelsey Silva [1:18:48 - 1:18:59]: Mean, I. I loved him. I mean, especially after we watched his documentary. I was like, oh, my God. And also loved him so much. Nothing ever made me hate Hulk Hogan more. And I already didn't like him. 

Xavier [1:18:59 - 1:19:00]: Right, Right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:19:01 - 1:19:01]: That was horrible. 

Xavier [1:19:01 - 1:20:08]: Right? Nope, you're not wrong. But the match continues. At one point, Brett has Triple H and a sharpshooter. China, of course, comes in to save. Save her mans. She comes in with the rope. Make sure that Hunter can get his hand on it. This prompts some squirmishing on the outside. China runs up and starts. She wails on Brett first. She goes for another one. He, like, grabs her hand, is like, are you for real right now? Like, are you more serious? And then he turns around and gets super kicked in the face by Sean Michaels, which prompts the referee to start counting because he was on the other side dealing with the Heart foundation, so he didn't see it. So the result of this match is Triple H wins by a count out, which we haven't seen really too, too much yeah, yeah. So crazy. That's where they leave us on this one. The fall bad blood was wilds. 

Kelsey Silva [1:20:08 - 1:20:16]: I know. I want to see. We didn't get to see any of Vader and the Patriot. I'm not complaining about not seeing the Patriot. 

Xavier [1:20:16 - 1:20:17]: Right, right, right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:20:18 - 1:20:23]: Again, we're already. Things are already back in motion. It's always running out. 

Xavier [1:20:23 - 1:20:24]: 100. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:20:25 - 1:20:27]: Like crazy. 

Xavier [1:20:27 - 1:21:10]: On to the next. On to the next. Thank you, guys. This has been another episode of the new to wrestling podcast. Thank you for listening wherever you find us. Of course. This is our end of episode plea to vote for us for the best wrestling podcast via the sports podcast awards. The link will be in the description below. Thank you. Also, thank you guys for commenting a lot more recently. I've been interacting with some of you guys and trying to stay on top of it. Forgive me if I haven't been super on top of it. It is the holidays, so. But thank you. Thank you. Love to see it. Love to see what you're excited about and all that. All that jazz. Yes, Kelsey. 

Kelsey Silva [1:21:10 - 1:21:33]: Yes. I want to know because there was someone on Twitter who mentioned that there was something on here that we were going to rant this episode specifically that we were going to rant a lot about. I want to know what it was, if it was Melanie or if it was Jim Cornette. I assume Melanie. I'm assuming Melanie, but sound off. What was it? And did we rant enough? I'm so curious. 

Xavier [1:21:33 - 1:21:36]: Yeah, fully. Do you feel satiated by the rants? 

Kelsey Silva [1:21:36 - 1:21:43]: Yeah, because I literally. We saw that Xavier read to me and I was like, we gotta caffeinate up. Because if we're ranting about something, I want to be prepared. 

Xavier [1:21:44 - 1:21:55]: No, absolute, fully. But definitely the highlights on this one was Jim Cornet. That was that I. Wigs flown. I. That was crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [1:21:55 - 1:22:12]: There's a. There's a meme. I'm sorry. And then I swear we'll be done. But there's a meme of like, Sookie, Sookie, lol Snooki on the phone for Jersey Shore. And someone edited like, oh, can I. Someone's like, oh, can I speak to. She's like calling someone and goes, oh, can I speak to. And they put my wig. And the response is, is, sorry she died. 

Xavier [1:22:13 - 1:22:15]: Sorry she died. 

Kelsey Silva [1:22:15 - 1:22:18]: She died. And that's me after Jim Fears. 

Xavier [1:22:18 - 1:22:32]: Oh, I love that. That was insane. Yeah, so there was lots of highs. A real low low. But this was another episode of the new wrestling podcast. Thanks, guys. We'll catch you on the next one. 

Kelsey Silva [1:22:33 - 1:22:34]: We'll see you there. 

Xavier [1:22:34 - 1:22:35]: Bye.