The Rock's Self-Portrait & We Went to Anniversary 8 (Raw is War: 2.16.1998)

This week, we dust off the VCR and jump back into the chaos of the Attitude Era with the February 16, 1998 episode of Raw Is War—and y’all, it’s a MESS in the best way. Kelsey remembers the Quebecers just in time, Xavier’s stressed about the Legion of Doom’s ongoing dumpster trauma, and we all agree that Jackyl’s “intellectual intercourse” is a war crime.

PLUS: We talk about our trip to Anniversary 8: A Jurassic Celebration, give major love to Vince Steele Jr. and the Mecca crowd, and try to process The Rock giving out Rolexes… and a framed portrait of himself.

Match Card Highlights:

• The Quebecers vs. Legion of Doom
• Ken Shamrock vs. Sniper (RIP, Truth Commission)
• Rock ‘n’ Roll Express (c) vs. The Headbangers — NWA Tag Team Titles
• Owen Hart (c) vs. Jeff Jarrett — European Championship
• Águila & Taka Michinoku vs. Brian Christopher & Pirata Morgan
• Steve Blackman vs. Farooq (feat. The Rock’s literal face)
• Cactus Jack & Chainsaw Charlie vs. Marc Mero & Goldust — Main Event

🪩 Sable’s still THAT girl.

🪓 Chainsaws are swinging.

📸 And Kane may or may not have sent Doc to the underworld.

We’re back on the road to WrestleMania 14 and trying (emphasis on trying) to keep our sanity.

The New To Wrestling Podcast follows two friends who enjoy wrestling but are in different stages of their fandom. Xavier Cruz serves as your guide through generations of professional wrestling while Kelsey Silva experiences these matches for the first time. Climb into the ring weekly to relive the famous matches beginning with the Attitude Era!

Transcript

Xavier [0:27 - 0:51]: Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of the New to Wrestling podcast. This week we watch the February 16, 1998 edition of Raw is War. And the match card is as follows. In our opening contest, we have the Quebecers taking on the Legion of Doom. Ken Shamrock takes on Sniper of. What are they called? I can't even remember their name. The Death Con five. 

Kelsey Silva [0:51 - 0:52]: The Truth Commission. 

Xavier [0:52 - 0:54]: That's the one. Sniper. 

Kelsey Silva [0:55 - 0:56]: I pulled that out of my. 

Xavier [0:56 - 2:27]: Thank you. Thank you. The Rock and Roll Express puts the NWA Tag Team Championships on the line against the Headbangers. Owen Hart puts his European title on the line against Jeff Jarrett. Aquila and Taka Michinoku take on Brian Christopher and Pirata Morgan. Steve Blackman takes on Farooq. And in our main event, Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie take on Mark Miro and Goldust. Hello, everyone. Welcome, welcome, welcome. If you are new here, you are in luck. That is Kelsey. She is also new to wrestling. If you are not so new, my name is Xavier. I'm here to help you out. All right, guys, it has been a hot minute since we have been on this train. I hope that you guys have enjoyed the last couple After Dark episodes, interviews with Jarrett Diaz and our crossover episode with the Invasion Angle podcast. If you haven't checked those out, by all means, please do this weekend, you know, we love to update you. And we reconvene. The stars align. And so that happened this weekend because Kelsey and I went to anniversary eight, A Jurassic Celebration. Yeah. Such a fun event. We got to meet Jared in person. We got to meet a bunch of other wrestlers. We've got some stuff lined up. Very exciting for you guys over the next, like, couple months booked. 

Kelsey Silva [2:27 - 2:28]: And busy girl. 

Xavier [2:28 - 2:35]: And busy. We've really been sticking my neck out there, sticking our neck out there, just trying to get our foot in the door, so. 

Kelsey Silva [2:36 - 2:40]: So, yeah, Xavier's, like, locked in, girl. It's, like, so incredible to witness. 

Xavier [2:40 - 2:49]: Thank you. Thank go. So look forward to more interviews. We are going to try and balance it out, of course, with, you know, the. The actual premise of the show. 

Kelsey Silva [2:49 - 2:51]: Our regular train. 

Xavier [2:51 - 3:10]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's keep it. Keep it rolling. But as you know, Netflix has ruined a lot of our continuity. Really shot that to hell. So in the interim, enjoy us diving into the world of interviewing. 

Kelsey Silva [3:11 - 3:26]: Yeah. And it's been so fun, and I love to talk to wrestlers because I'm so curious about everything. I just be asking all types of shit, so. Or things. Excuse me. It's been so long. I'm cursing Like, I'm like, we, I mean, we. 

Xavier [3:26 - 3:27]: It's fine. 

Kelsey Silva [3:27 - 3:46]: We've like already transgressed so many times. But I, yeah, it's so fun, especially interviewing wrestlers in the independence that we get to go and see. Like, it's so fun. And I just want to say shout out to the Mecca. The Mecca is so fun anytime you go there. Like, it's just the coolest community, the nicest people. 

Xavier [3:47 - 3:55]: Wrestlers, like, everyone's so lit, having a great time. They're taking care of each other. It's good, it's a good night. It's a good night out. 

Kelsey Silva [3:56 - 4:07]: Always good vibes. It's always the best. So shout out to the Mecca and the community there. We love y' all for real. And we can't wait to go back, which I think hopefully their late July show will be at also heard. 

Xavier [4:07 - 4:26]: Heard her. Yes, yes, we, we are hopefully making moves for that. But also shout out to Shadow Wrestling alliance and Bri Combination Wrestling, who put on the show, which was a tribute show for Vince Steel. There was an adorable moment where Vince Steele Jr. Won the opening contest. 

Kelsey Silva [4:27 - 4:28]: Bad Mother was flyer. 

Xavier [4:29 - 4:29]: It was great. 

Kelsey Silva [4:30 - 4:32]: Bad Mother Flyer champion. 

Xavier [4:32 - 4:39]: That was amazing. Kelsey got a photo with Photo Girl. Kelsey picked up some merch. It was, it was a good day. It was a great day. 

Kelsey Silva [4:39 - 5:07]: It was, it was awesome. Again, nicest people ever. And when I tell you When Vince Steele Jr. Won the bad Mother Flyer Championship, not a dry eye in the house, honey. It was no tears for everyone. I was literally like, oh my God. This is just the most beautiful moment. It was the best. There was an amazing shoot in, in the mat like throughout the night. It was. Oh my God. It was turned. There was like this incredible three way like high flying match, like, oh yeah. 

Xavier [5:08 - 5:09]: With. 

Kelsey Silva [5:11 - 5:15]: Ichiban, who I love, girl. 

Xavier [5:15 - 5:16]: Oh, I know you eat. 

Kelsey Silva [5:16 - 5:20]: I I number one girl. I love him so, so bad. 

Xavier [5:20 - 5:26]: I that's so funny. And bougie and, and Mania or Butter. 

Kelsey Silva [5:26 - 5:27]: Butter. 

Xavier [5:28 - 5:29]: So good. So good. 

Kelsey Silva [5:29 - 5:30]: So incredible. 

Xavier [5:31 - 5:43]: So look forward to those interviews. Look forward to us going out and seeing more shows and reporting back. We're having a grand time just kind of emaciating ourselves into the community or at least trying. 

Kelsey Silva [5:44 - 5:45]: Yeah. 

Xavier [5:45 - 6:46]: So look out for that and let's get into this one. Yes, girl. So we are. It's been a minute. So we are on the heels of the no Way out pay per view. And if you forgot how that pay per view ends, it ends with China of Degeneration X receiving a stunner after getting in Stone Cold Steve Austin. Quite Stone Cold. Steve Austin's face quite a few times. And we all know how that plays out for the general. The general public when we get in Stone Cold Steve Austin's face. It worked out exactly that way. But the top of this episode starts with an announcement that DX wants to sue Stone Cold Steve Austin for the. For the stunner on China. For emotional, like, distress, which is crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [6:46 - 6:51]: Is so insane. I literally go, China has never shown an emotion in her entire life. 

Xavier [6:51 - 6:52]: No. 

Kelsey Silva [6:52 - 6:56]: How could she possibly be emotionally distressed? I mean, that's so. Respectfully, I'm. 

Xavier [6:56 - 6:56]: No, no, no. 

Kelsey Silva [6:56 - 6:58]: Friend. I'm in love with her. 

Xavier [6:58 - 7:04]: No. The woman invented stoicism. Like, I don't understand, like, what we're doing. 

Kelsey Silva [7:04 - 7:21]: She only has completely passive, not interested, and, like, kind of angry period. And. And like, hulking out a little. Like that's kind of pretty much it, though. Like, I just can't envision her being emotionally distressed. Like, that sounds more like a Shawn Michaels gig. Like, I'm trying to get my smile back. 

Xavier [7:21 - 7:27]: Right, right, right. Very, very in the. Very in the wheelhouse of a Shawn Michaels. 

Kelsey Silva [7:27 - 7:33]: So, yeah, I just. Shocking. We're strange. We'll see. I guess. 

Xavier [7:33 - 8:22]: Yeah. Yeah, I guess. And, you know, we. We touch on it more as the episode progresses, and so will we. So the opening contest is the qu. Who Kelsey, quite frankly forgot existed until the. Until they're. Until they were on our screen. She literally says to me, I forgot that these people were real. I. In my mind, I had to go through the recently deleted and pull them out. And I just think that's so funny because there is nothing quite. There's nothing like, quite forgotten. Like the recently deleted. I swear, you think that you've gotten rid of the problem because you've moved it to another location, but really, it's still just sitting on your computer. 

Kelsey Silva [8:22 - 8:34]: It's right over there. Yeah, but I literally had to go, like, oh, Quebec. Nope, I got it. Okay. Sorry. And it was like, about to. The memory was about to expire. Like, I don't know. I rescued it just in time. 

Xavier [8:34 - 8:36]: Oh, 100% sorry. 

Kelsey Silva [8:36 - 8:37]: To these men. 

Xavier [8:37 - 8:53]: Yeah. Jacques and Pierre. Jacques, I still hate. Hate your hair. I still hate it. I still hate it. Pierre or Jacques, for your troubles, also gave us a. One of the wonkiest neck breaker cells I've ever seen. 

Kelsey Silva [8:53 - 9:00]: That was crazy. It was like when the video game delays. It was like he hit the move and then he was like, ah. 

Xavier [9:03 - 9:08]: I was like, you need to finish buffering before you commit to this. I was like, that's crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [9:08 - 9:10]: Wake Up. I don't know if you know this. 

Xavier [9:10 - 9:40]: But you're fighting no 100%. Who did know that they were fighting was Pierre. Because that boy was juiced up this whole match. He was. He was. Yeah. Ready to go. Yeah. Rarin on the commentary team they make a like a comment saying like that there are people like trying to write off the Legion of Doom. Who. Who's trying to write off the Legion of Doom as can't hang in 1998. I was like not me. Certainly not. I. 

Kelsey Silva [9:41 - 9:46]: That's not me. In this, in this big old year of 2025. I'm still not. I don't know. 

Xavier [9:46 - 9:47]: Absolutely not. That was crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [9:47 - 9:59]: You're smoking. You need to go into your recently deleted memory 100 get the facts back out because this is giving. You got to give yourself a relearning and delusion. 

Xavier [10:00 - 10:18]: Amazing. Pierre in all of his craziness performs a like a cannonball dive off of the ring apron. Which was. It was actually like very impressive because the big bowling ball of a man. So to really like just be yeeting yourself like that. I'm always impressed with. 

Kelsey Silva [10:18 - 10:19]: Yeah. 

Xavier [10:20 - 10:27]: The new age outlaws appear with their trusty, musty, dusty dumpster. Why? 

Kelsey Silva [10:28 - 10:44]: I just want to say it was all it was. Suddenly we're haha. Hehe. About the dumpster. When before it was trauma. We're going to to psychological evaluations for a whole 45 minutes wondering if we killed somebody. But now it's oh my God. Now the gig is the dumpster. That's our gig. 

Xavier [10:45 - 10:51]: Right. 100 now it's. Now it's part of their personality. Which is, which is a weird thing to take on. 

Kelsey Silva [10:53 - 10:55]: We do this thing with a dumpster. Okay. 

Xavier [10:55 - 11:37]: And I love it because it's, it's like a. It's just a giant industrial dump and you can order one. You know when you move that sort of. It's just one of those dumpsters and I love watching them try and like bring it down the ramp because they're both. First of all neither one of them is in front of it so they're, they're both behind it. Just like trying to like let it go a little bit. Stop it. Like let it go a little bit. Like stop it. And so like I'm like supposed to be paying attention to the match but I'm watching these fools like yeah. I'm like wondering if they're going to let go of the dumpster and that shit's just going to go flying down the ramp. Yeah. And just like fall over. 

Kelsey Silva [11:38 - 11:46]: But what they need to do is they need to be on like the front corners and like, they're on the side and also the front because they can steer and Right. We really. 

Xavier [11:47 - 12:08]: It was just, it was just thoroughly amusing watching them try and get it down. And then like, of course, like, Hawk is on the floor, like, by the, by the entrance of the ramp. And like, you see them, like, really try and like, stop it before actually hitting him, which is crazy because, like, you're gonna throw him in it. 

Kelsey Silva [12:09 - 12:13]: Yeah, I mean, if you hit him with it, it's, I feel like, just easier to get it, first of all. 

Xavier [12:14 - 12:44]: So the New Age Outlaws, like, why the referee made no mention of the New Age Outlaws, like, being out there with a giant, like, like 10 foot dumpster. Like, no one's saying any of, like, no one brought it up. No one said anything. Hawk goes missing because he's in the dumpster and the referee never. It like, never. I swear to God, it's like asking Dora a question. It pisses me off. It's right there. It's right there. 

Kelsey Silva [12:44 - 13:08]: Dora, turn around, open your eyes. Your eyeballs in before you leave the house. I. Well, that. You know what? And this tracks for Ella. It's getting. The way that Lod is getting treated recently is going the way of how the Undertaker was treating. I was like, my boy can't get one clean match. Remember when they handcuffed Hawk to the side to the ring and the ref was like, what? How did that happen? 

Xavier [13:08 - 13:09]: Who did that? 

Kelsey Silva [13:09 - 13:13]: And it's like, diva girl, what are you. What do you mean? 

Xavier [13:13 - 13:16]: Like, let's not, let's not play games. 

Kelsey Silva [13:16 - 13:24]: And it's like, where could Hawk have gone? Maybe the person kicking the. The top of the dumpster screaming to get out 100. 

Xavier [13:25 - 13:49]: I. I just, I love it. I mean, and granted this, we know this in wrestling. Like, there is no like, quote, oh, unquote, like, dumber, more oblivious character than the referee. Yes. But girl, that is a giant dumpster like it. And they are not in this match. 

Kelsey Silva [13:49 - 13:53]: And they are not being subtle about it, Dumpster notwithstanding. 

Xavier [13:53 - 14:16]: Listen, like, there is, there is nothing subtle about the New Age Outlaws, like, period. Like, just even from the downbeat of their music. Oh, you didn't know? Like, are you kidding? That's what I'm saying. Like, that's what I'm saying. You're like, oh, oh. You hear them before you see them. There's nothing subtle about them. 

Kelsey Silva [14:18 - 14:23]: So they're usually wearing some heinous outfit. Like Billy gunn is. No one is like, what is he Mr. Butt or whatever? 

Xavier [14:25 - 14:27]: Not yet, but he will be like, there's. 

Kelsey Silva [14:27 - 14:31]: You're so right. There's just. They are the most unsubtle people I know. 

Xavier [14:32 - 14:42]: So of course, Hawks in the dumpster trying to kick his way out. And of Animals getting the kicked out of him. As the match is usual. 

Kelsey Silva [14:42 - 14:51]: Hard for the course for my. My brother in Christ, Animal. Every time I say this, every time, he is always the one that takes the. Takes the. 

Xavier [14:51 - 14:53]: The beating. Absolutely. 

Kelsey Silva [14:53 - 14:54]: Every time. 

Xavier [14:54 - 15:19]: And there's always one in every tag team. But. So the. The Quebecers hit Animal with a pal driver. He kicks out. So he rolls out to the outside of the ring, realizes what's going on, sees the Hawk trying to escape the dumpster. I mean, he's up very understandably, pretty preoccupied before that point. 

Kelsey Silva [15:20 - 15:20]: Yeah. 

Xavier [15:20 - 15:46]: So he grabs a steel chair, runs all the way around the ring, chases the New Age Outlaws out of the arena and like Hawk springs out of the springs out of the dumpster. Like, you just came across him. I was gonna say that. Or like you came across him in like a Lego video game. Like, it's just like you, you like free some character. They're like. And then they like run away. That's how it felt. 

Kelsey Silva [15:46 - 15:47]: Oh my God, it did. 

Xavier [15:48 - 16:11]: So Hawk and Animal like chase the New Age Outlaws all the while that the referee is. Because the match is still in progress. Kudos to you for doing your job. Is counting them out. And that gives the Quebecers a victory over the Legion of Doom, which I know it's like a. A win with a asterisk, but it's still, it's still a W over the Legion of Doom and I don't like it. 

Kelsey Silva [16:11 - 16:12]: I don't like it. 

Xavier [16:13 - 16:14]: I don't like it. 

Kelsey Silva [16:14 - 16:16]: I don't like that at all. 

Xavier [16:16 - 16:55]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. Crazy. That follows us up with. Oh, the. The technical term that they want to sue for that DX wants to sue Austin for is severe emotional distress. And then they hit us with a DX style China video package which. Which was fierce. Yes, it was great. It was amazing. It has literally just been like. It is, it is just like a hype up reel for China. It is like from the onset of China, the havoc that she has reached to some lovely Degeneration X music. 

Kelsey Silva [16:55 - 17:09]: Yeah, like the, the bad bitchery achieved in her stint at wwe. Like tossing off five refs, like, like just throwing people around, like clotheslining people left and right. Like just. 

Xavier [17:09 - 17:12]: And just like slamming dudes, serving moods. That's what. That's. 

Kelsey Silva [17:15 - 17:17]: Because I'm like, hold on, I gotta write that down. 

Xavier [17:17 - 17:45]: Because that is her whole aesthetic. Like, just serving moods. Like, she has won. So good. They in the package call her, like, the anchor of dx. And nothing is the straw that stirs the drink. And I think that's hilarious, honestly. 

Kelsey Silva [17:45 - 17:50]: So sexy, too. She's the straw that stirs the drink. Okay, Purr, period. 

Xavier [17:51 - 18:11]: And then that takes us to the altercation at no Way out with Stone Cold, where she purposefully, like, gets in his line of, like, his, like, walking path twice, shoves him twice, and then gets a stunner for her trouble. But it's like, she's fine. 

Kelsey Silva [18:11 - 18:23]: Like, I just cannot imagine she, like. Is the song called Stunner Apps, like, legit and hard and the whole thing. We know it's infamous, right? But it's china. 

Xavier [18:24 - 18:26]: That's what I'm saying. Give her a little more credit than that. 

Kelsey Silva [18:28 - 18:33]: One bump and it's curtains for her, please, right? I don't think so. 

Xavier [18:33 - 19:04]: I don't think so. So that takes us into our next match, which is Ken Shamrock, the number one contender for the intercontinental championship currently held by the Rock, is taking on Sniper of the Truth Commission. Apparently, there is also dissension in the Truth Commission. I couldn't imagine why. It's not like Jackal is at all just the most obstinate, delusional. What. What was a warrior Prophet. 

Kelsey Silva [19:04 - 19:05]: Warrior. 

Xavier [19:07 - 19:07]: Yes. 

Kelsey Silva [19:08 - 19:20]: And by that, he means just wearing a sticky rhinestone on his third eye, right? I used to do put those on to pretend I had my nose pierced when I was a child. Like, let's. Let's please grow up. 

Xavier [19:20 - 19:25]: Like, 100. Like, I'll. I'll get. I'll hit you with a pack of candy cigarettes, and we can move on. 

Kelsey Silva [19:28 - 19:38]: And we can play. We could play dress up, but let's not do it here, okay? I love a sticky rhinestone turn up, but not that. Not like this. Not. Not today. 

Xavier [19:39 - 20:14]: So they show a brief clip of Jackal getting into Recon's face after a. A loss where Jackal is, like, you know, dressing down Recon, and then he slaps Recon in the face. And then to show to, like, I guess, assert his dominance, when Recon is, like, yelling at him, he just, like, turns his. He just turns around and is just like. And then, like, walks away. And then Recon, like, follows, which is really, truly. Boy move. 

Kelsey Silva [20:15 - 20:19]: What did he say? His followers were like. Like, unintelligent or like. 

Xavier [20:19 - 20:44]: Oh, he called them pathetic while he was on. On commentary. And then they ask him essentially, like, how can you identify, like, they basically, like, ask him, like, how can you tell which are your sheeple and which are just people? And, like, essentially. And he's like, oh, yeah, it's the pathetic ones hanging on every word that I say. And I was like, oh, got it. Letting them know where they stand from the rip. Got it. 

Kelsey Silva [20:44 - 20:46]: That is so insane. 

Xavier [20:47 - 21:03]: And then he uses the phrase. Oh, he says that he says something about inviting all of the, like, the sheeple into his bed to engage in intellectual intercourse. 

Kelsey Silva [21:03 - 21:06]: Intellectual intercourse, which. 

Xavier [21:08 - 21:16]: Is quite possibly the dumbest like, phrase to use the word intellectual I think I've ever heard. 

Kelsey Silva [21:16 - 21:22]: And again, saying this with just this blue, teardrop shaped, sticky rhinestone gem on his forehead. 

Xavier [21:22 - 21:23]: And. 

Kelsey Silva [21:23 - 21:26]: And just like, I'm not like, honestly. 

Xavier [21:26 - 21:33]: Like, great work, Don. Great work, Don, because I can't stand you. 

Kelsey Silva [21:33 - 21:53]: So annoying. Yeah, like, all of this. I know that it's all in good fun. It's all just. But he is, like, so annoying and, like, so great. It's so. I will say it's well done because it's like, what is even the message? Like, what is even your message? Everyone's just following you. And, like, that seems. No, literally to me. Like, it kind of is, like, legit. 

Xavier [21:53 - 22:01]: No, literally. And the way that he just keeps just like, I'm gonna lose it. 

Kelsey Silva [22:01 - 22:02]: I'm like, you're so. 

Xavier [22:02 - 22:05]: I was like, that is disgusting. I want to shower every time he does it. 

Kelsey Silva [22:05 - 22:09]: I'm like, intellectual intercourse. 

Xavier [22:09 - 22:11]: Crazy, crazy, crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [22:12 - 22:13]: I do not consent. 

Xavier [22:14 - 22:59]: So this match has emphasis on Ken being, like, the submission specialist, just kind of. They keep going on about it. And Ken finishes up the match with basically luring Sniper into a quick reversal into the ankle lock, where Sniper taps basically, like, immediately. Instantly comes Jackal comes in, gives him the same, like, undressing, and then starts telling. He's like. He's like, we're done. I'm washing my hands of you. Sniper starts getting, like, upset and, like, gets in his face. Jackal tries to do the thing again where he, like, turns around to, like, show his dominance. I don't know if this is, like, Snow Dogs where you bite the dog on the ear, like, if that's what that is. 

Kelsey Silva [22:59 - 23:12]: This is this. I just want to say, second time we brought up Snow Dogs, and I remember nothing. Why is Snow Dogs pertinent to my everyday life? I'll never know. 

Xavier [23:12 - 23:20]: Well, because there's something about, like, the. The. The wrestling world that, like, also feels the need to show dominance. So it's, like, the only example I. 

Kelsey Silva [23:20 - 23:26]: Can, like, like, think of in A short. Yeah, I so get that. That is so funny. 

Xavier [23:26 - 24:06]: So he tries to do the same thing to not the same effect because Sniper is having none of it, shoves him and is basically like, you know what? Actually I'm done with you. So then that takes us into a backstage interview with Recon and Recon's like, no, like no problems. I don't know what it is about the WWF and just not being able to accept that there is a problem. But no faction has a problem. Apparently littered with problems. Could not. They couldn't like find a solution to one of these problems if they fell into it. 

Kelsey Silva [24:06 - 24:11]: So like, I swear, if they were reading it from a page this big. 

Xavier [24:11 - 24:15]: Right, that's what I'm saying. Like a, like a prompt cue card. 

Kelsey Silva [24:15 - 24:29]: Like, I hate to say this, I really think that the NWA is like the only quote unquote faction that's like legit. They have like clear leadership, unity. Like, I know they're not necessarily like a faction, but. 

Xavier [24:29 - 24:32]: Right. Like they're like an organization, but they're, they're acting as a faction. 

Kelsey Silva [24:32 - 24:35]: They're faction. Yeah, there's, there's Ooda faction. 

Xavier [24:35 - 24:43]: Like there's like the NWA is its own thing. This iteration is an NWA faction in wwe. 

Kelsey Silva [24:43 - 24:48]: And I hate to say it, but they got structure. They have community, they have support. 

Xavier [24:49 - 24:50]: Everybody knows their role. 

Kelsey Silva [24:50 - 24:55]: Like, yeah, I hate admitting that it's horrible. 

Xavier [24:55 - 25:31]: Listen, it's a well, well oiled machine, but like, look who's at, at the top. Like, it's Jim. It's our boy Jim. Like as much as we as grading as he is, he's also one of the best minds in wrestling. So Recon says that no problem Sniper comes in and is like, actually lots of problems over that guy. Tired of listening to him. Where has that gotten us? We need to go out there and just start taking stuff for ourselves. And that's basically the gist of that. And you're like, oh, well, I guess, I guess that was a short lived little. 

Kelsey Silva [25:32 - 25:32]: Yeah. 

Xavier [25:33 - 25:43]: But again, like it, it was kind of just like jank from the start because like it was somebody else. The commandant was there and then. 

Kelsey Silva [25:43 - 25:44]: Yeah. Switched to Jackal. 

Xavier [25:44 - 25:53]: Like, no. And then there was like. And then like sometimes it's like Kurgan's the star. Sometimes it's all of them together. Like it just feels like it would never. 

Kelsey Silva [25:54 - 25:55]: Yeah. 

Xavier [25:55 - 25:57]: Had a solid like lift off. 

Kelsey Silva [25:58 - 25:58]: Yeah. 

Xavier [25:58 - 26:01]: So it's like, I'm not surprised that this is fizzling as fast as it is. 

Kelsey Silva [26:01 - 26:24]: No. Oh my God, no. And I was gonna say like, the. I was like, okay, the elephant in the room is literally the missing elephant. Where is Kurgan? Like, did they. I can't even remember now because it's been so long. I was like, did they have a falling out and I missed it? He kind of did, didn't he? I feel like I vaguely remember he. Like, they had, like, a. Like, kurgan's not gonna do your shit anymore and, like, left. I don't even remember either way, that's. 

Xavier [26:24 - 26:26]: The gag is like, we don't even know. 

Kelsey Silva [26:26 - 26:35]: I don't even remember again. I had to. With the Quebecers. Had to go on the file. Effects of recently deleted. I don't know. I don't remember that one. I couldn't find, though, so. 

Xavier [26:35 - 26:44]: Well, we will see probably more of the dissolution of the truth commission over the next couple weeks. Yeah, fine by me. 

Kelsey Silva [26:44 - 26:47]: I never want to see those green boat neck tops again. 

Xavier [26:48 - 26:48]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [26:48 - 26:51]: Those poly blend boat neck tops. 

Xavier [26:51 - 27:07]: We can move on. So next we get a. Like, a video package of the mounting spousal beef between Mark Miro and Sable. Boy, oh, boy, is that getting fun. 

Kelsey Silva [27:08 - 27:11]: I felt like we were in on couples therapy. What's happening? 

Xavier [27:11 - 28:06]: 100 were. Yeah, that's exactly what was happening. So Jerry Lawler has been chosen to do the interview for this, which is just an interesting choice. Very interesting choice. Mark Miro gets the mic first, obviously, and he goes. Where this all started was like, I was recovering from my knee injury, and when I come to from surgery, I turn on Monday Night Raw, and there is Sable wearing, like, an Austin316 shirt. And, like, just out there, like. Like, Ste. Trying to steal my spotlight. That's the whole. The whole gag is Mark Miro wants to be the prom queen and he's not. So. And that is the. That is the he wants to be premise. 

Kelsey Silva [28:06 - 28:08]: He wants to be baby girl so bad. 

Xavier [28:09 - 28:09]: Oh, bad. 

Kelsey Silva [28:10 - 29:04]: He wants to be baby girl so bad. Give it up. Delicious. I. One, I hate this. Two, I am praying, begging, and pleading that Stone Cold is her secret admirer. I'm just. I just want it so bad. And I literally felt like, you know when you, like, think something might be true, when you start picking up on, like, the weird little, like, things, and you're like, was that a clue? Because when he was like, you're out here wearing your Stone Cold 316 shirt, I was like, why did you bring that up? I was like, why did you mention him? What is that? What's that about? And I'll never, ever, ever forget. In my wildest dreams, I'LL be in my deathbed thinking about the I, the I of Stone Cold and Sable that one time. I will. I still think about it and I am praying I. It probably isn't, but like, God, that would be fierce. 

Xavier [29:06 - 29:10]: I love this for you. I'll let you. I'll let you ride that out to where? 

Kelsey Silva [29:10 - 29:17]: Whatever, wherever it goes, whatever station I end up at. I got a one way ticket, 100. 

Xavier [29:18 - 29:30]: Sign me up. And then Mark Miro hits us with the. Essentially the, like, look at what you're wearing. Like, look at how you dress. 

Kelsey Silva [29:30 - 29:32]: What was she wearing? 

Xavier [29:32 - 29:32]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [29:33 - 29:52]: The way I wanted to flip this table, I was like, oh, no. Which, by the way, saying all of this nastiness about his wife. Look at the way she's dressed. She dresses like a prostitute. Meanwhile, someone is holding a sign right behind Sable in the crowd that says, Vince McMahon hires. 

Xavier [29:53 - 29:54]: That's crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [29:54 - 29:58]: I was like, who is that? 

Xavier [29:58 - 29:59]: Who got that in there? 

Kelsey Silva [29:59 - 30:27]: Like, got that in there. I'm not kidding. And I never saw it again. It was like on the screen for one minute and I was like. And I happened to pause because I was like Xavier and I got like out of sync on the episode, so I paused. So I know I saw it. I was like. And I was like, girl, they. Some of them been new, some of them been new. But how he got that or she got that in there, I do not know. But what a crazy time for it to be seen too. 

Xavier [30:27 - 30:28]: No, I know. 

Kelsey Silva [30:28 - 30:34]: Saying some weird misogynist and like, someone says, Vince McMahon hires crazy. 

Xavier [30:34 - 30:36]: That is bonkers. 

Kelsey Silva [30:36 - 30:39]: I need to know who that person is. What did they know? 

Xavier [30:41 - 30:46]: Honestly, it was probably like the, whatever. The boy scandal would be my best guess. 

Kelsey Silva [30:46 - 30:48]: The ring boy scam. 

Xavier [30:48 - 30:50]: Because that's been like rumored for a very, very long time. 

Kelsey Silva [30:50 - 31:10]: Oh, yeah, that's so true. Oh, my God, so sinister. So terrible. The crazy. Yeah, not the what was she wearing girl. First of all, that's your wife. And like when she, when you guys were in your good graces and she would come out wearing whatever, you didn't care at all. But suddenly it's like, now we got sour grapes about it. 

Xavier [31:10 - 31:29]: Yeah, yeah, yeah. So. And then he goes into, luckily, Sable knows her place and if you looked at her face, it said that she knew anything. But thank you very much. She said, she's like, oh, do I now? 

Kelsey Silva [31:29 - 31:44]: She said, I thought I did. And I thought it was your manager and your wife, but it turns out I'm what, a chair to you? Like a, A poster? Like what? Like a piece of nothing Like a doors, a doorstop, a dorm. 

Xavier [31:44 - 31:55]: No, literally. Well, he goes, sable belongs to me. Like, the. Like, Allah. Old school. Like, marriage is like, we exchange a dowry. 

Kelsey Silva [31:55 - 31:57]: Like, what is going on? 

Xavier [31:58 - 32:14]: Yeah, crazy, crazy, crazy, crazy. And then King's like, well, it didn't really, like, look like she knew her place when she, like, knocked you on your ass. So, like, what's that about? Like, is that your place? Question mark. 

Kelsey Silva [32:14 - 32:18]: I know. And part of me wanted to be like, shut up, King. And then I was like, kind of. Funny way to ask that, though. 

Xavier [32:18 - 32:26]: No. Yeah, yeah, she pushed you. No, literally. And then he's like, oh, you mean when I tripped. And you're like, oh, girl, when you. 

Kelsey Silva [32:26 - 32:28]: Tripped on that delusional ass. 

Xavier [32:29 - 32:30]: I really am. 

Kelsey Silva [32:30 - 32:34]: When you tripped over your expectations of what she's supposed to be doing. 

Xavier [32:35 - 33:23]: Yep. Thank you very much. And while this is all, like, going on, he's trying to, like, defend his shortcoming, I guess. Flowers are getting sent down to the ring. Allah, her secret admirer, which is, of course, going to set Mark Miro off. And he's like, that's it. Like, I want to know, like, who this is. Like, what is. Like, what is this? And she's essentially like, honestly, it's kind of nice that somebody's actually thinking about me for a change and just leaves. And just, like, she just, like. She's like, someone's thinking about me. Music hits, walks up, doesn't turn around. He's out here calling over to her name over the mic, chasing her up the ramp. Love it. I love to see it. It's just the visual of her not even acknowledging that he is, like, barking at her. 

Kelsey Silva [33:23 - 33:30]: Yeah, she's. She's deaf to the hateration and holleration that Mary J. Warned her about. And thank God and amen, right? 

Xavier [33:31 - 33:32]: Amen. 

Kelsey Silva [33:32 - 33:35]: Free my girl, Sable. This is heinous. 

Xavier [33:36 - 33:50]: Yeah, no, it's my friend Sable. Brutal. Next, we have a James E. Cornet rant, essentially, about how we all cheered and applauded. I don't know who we are. 

Kelsey Silva [33:50 - 33:51]: Nobody did that. 

Xavier [33:51 - 34:22]: Right when I said I was going to bring back traditional wrestling. And then when I deliver the goods, all of a sudden it's hemming and hawing and blah, blah, blah, blah. And like. And then basically he. It turns into a. I feel like I was getting, like, in trouble, essentially. Like, I felt swing. It was like, we're gonna give you traditional wrestling and you're gonna like it, and it's good for you, and it's what you're gonna take because that's what we're offering. And you're like, okay, I didn't realize. 

Kelsey Silva [34:22 - 34:24]: It was broccoli and Brussels sprouts. 

Xavier [34:24 - 34:25]: No. 100. 

Kelsey Silva [34:26 - 34:27]: I didn't realize I had to take it. 

Xavier [34:27 - 34:44]: You're gonna eat all this traditional wrestling or you got no dessert? And you're like. I was like, can you get a grip? I was like, I don't know who. I don't know who you're talking to. I was like, but you need to get off your high horse before I bend you over my knee, take that racket and ruin your life. 

Kelsey Silva [34:44 - 34:47]: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. 

Xavier [34:47 - 34:53]: That's crazy. Not like you. You're not. You're gonna like it. Don't tell me what to do. 

Kelsey Silva [34:54 - 34:55]: You don't know what I'll like. 

Xavier [34:56 - 34:58]: Get out of here. Don't tell me what to do. James. 

Kelsey Silva [34:59 - 35:05]: No. James. Before I say something I'm gonna regret. 

Xavier [35:06 - 35:06]: 100. 

Kelsey Silva [35:07 - 35:07]: No. 

Xavier [35:08 - 35:31]: But that leads us into our next match, which is an NWA Tag team championship match between the Rock and Roll Express and the Headbangers. And we, of course, have to have a NWA sanctioned referee in this one. His name is Tommy Young. Lauded. Lauded over for his. For his work. 

Kelsey Silva [35:32 - 35:33]: My God. 

Xavier [35:33 - 35:58]: Of course. This match is just littered with NWA shenanigans. Just cheating. Left, right, center. I have some. Some fun call out moves. The double DDT by Mosh on the Rock and Roll Express. Great. The double flap Jack on Morton where it wasn't really super timed correctly. So the. The back of him and like the tilt to whirl. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [35:58 - 36:03]: I thought maybe he thought he was going for like the flippy one. Because sometimes it's a flapjack and sometimes the flippy one. 

Xavier [36:03 - 36:04]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [36:04 - 36:08]: And I was like, did one of them think they were going for the flippy? And one of them didn't. And. 

Xavier [36:08 - 36:08]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [36:08 - 36:09]: It was. 

Xavier [36:09 - 36:11]: It ended up in a. Yeah. It was like a. 

Kelsey Silva [36:11 - 36:13]: It was like a whirl. Yes. 

Xavier [36:14 - 36:53]: Crazy. Crazy, crazy. Oh. The. The headbangers hit the stage dive their finisher, and they are going to pick up the victory. So it seems the referee is literally counting when one of the Headbangers throws one of the Rock and Roll Express over the top rope. Neither of which are the legal man, by the way, because neither are involved in the pinfall. When the referee stops counting the pinfall to disqualify the Headbangers for throwing an opponent over the top rope. Because that is a rule in NWA you dumb. 

Kelsey Silva [36:54 - 37:14]: So stupid. I think it was Mosh. And I'm like, he wasn't even the legal man. Who cares what he does? There's been Skull Duggery from the NWA this whole time. And suddenly this is the line in the sand, right? Insane. Get out of here. I don't like it. 

Xavier [37:15 - 37:19]: Yeah, they're making. They make us rage in all. All the worst ways. But. 

Kelsey Silva [37:20 - 37:23]: But, alas, they are organized. 

Xavier [37:23 - 37:36]: Yes, they are. And. And, you know, that's. That is like coming in with a game plan. You know what I mean? Like, they had that ref. They knew, like, they. They were just waiting for something to come up. That. 

Kelsey Silva [37:36 - 37:41]: That is one of those little, like, nuancey rules. They were like, we're gonna get them on a technicality. 

Xavier [37:41 - 37:41]: Yeah. Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [37:41 - 37:43]: And I hate to be gone on a technicality. 

Xavier [37:45 - 38:07]: Amen. So the NWA is still rolling. I still think this is, like, a thing that's going nowhere because to have, like, titles that are literally the same titles, essentially, that you already have, only on the four members that are participating in your. It just. It's a weird. It's weird. 

Kelsey Silva [38:07 - 38:10]: It is weird. Oh, I just gotta chill. I don't like it. 

Xavier [38:11 - 38:18]: You know what I mean? It feels like we just gave ourselves, like. Like, championships, and we're just like, Like. You know what I mean? 

Kelsey Silva [38:18 - 38:20]: No, truly. 

Xavier [38:20 - 38:22]: Okay, sure. 

Kelsey Silva [38:22 - 38:26]: So we're, like, best podcast called new to wrestling. Nailed it. 

Xavier [38:26 - 39:08]: Nailed it. So we'll find out more about the NWA and what they're up to in a little bit. Stone Cold Steve Austin comes out to hit us with a promo to address the situation with China. He came out with looking like 90s royalty out here with that fanny pack and those acid wash jeans here for that. Thank you. Essentially, Junior just goes, why did you stun China? And this is just. It's such a funny little, like, promo. He. I love when he grabs Junior, like, just by the. The whole arm and just drags him around the ring as he does his promo. 

Kelsey Silva [39:08 - 39:09]: It's so funny. 

Xavier [39:09 - 39:23]: He goes. See, he goes. As you. As you understand Junior from experience, when you step in between these ropes, your ass belongs to me. I don't. I don't know how I can make myself any clearer. I feel. 

Kelsey Silva [39:23 - 39:24]: Running to the ropes. 

Xavier [39:24 - 39:25]: No, running to the ropes. 

Kelsey Silva [39:25 - 39:26]: I'm like. 

Xavier [39:26 - 39:48]: And then he's like. He's like. I've been saying this the whole time. And he's like, you don't mess with Stone Cold. So are you stupid or are you deaf? And you're just like. And then he's like. And honestly, she's lucky I was in such a good mood. And you're like, oh, God. 

Kelsey Silva [39:49 - 40:00]: Honestly, like, kind of t. Because he kind of was like, he was kind of just like, haha, cut it out. And he's like, okay, that's your loud like. And then he was like, well, now. 

Xavier [40:00 - 40:23]: You made me do it 100%, so I love it. Great promo work. He addresses HPK. He's like, oh, just because you're like, listen. He's like, I want you to go, Go get better. Go. Go work out on your little machines. Go do whatever you got to do. He's like, be 100%, not be 100. Doesn't really matter. He's like, the ass kicking is going to be the same either way. 

Kelsey Silva [40:23 - 40:24]: Yeah. The outcome is. 

Xavier [40:25 - 40:57]: And I'm like, love that. And then he goes to address Tyson. He's like, okay, you're the enforcer, you better stay in your lane, all right? He's like, we're not playing games. I've already told you. You again. Get in my face, I'm gonna take your little gold tooth. I'm gonna start making jewelry out of it. And I was like, oh, okay, here we go. Okay, So I believe him. I know. It's just beautiful work. It's just great stuff. And then he steals JR's hat, stands on the commentary, flips everybody the bird. 

Kelsey Silva [40:57 - 41:00]: And leaves and Iconic. 

Xavier [41:00 - 41:01]: All in a day's work. 

Kelsey Silva [41:01 - 41:02]: No notes. 

Xavier [41:04 - 41:55]: Amazing. So that takes us in to the European Championship match between Jeff Jarrett and Owen Hart. Of course, Jeff Jarrett is flanked by all of everybody. It's Coronet, it's Barry Windham, it's the Rock and Roll Express. All of the NWA members that aren't Jim Cornette are then sent to the back because why do you have a circus out here? There was a note on commentary about Stu Hart developing the, like, the uppercut, like, forearm that Owen uses. Oh, and I never really, like, clocked that. I didn't know that that was attributed, like, to him. I had no idea. That comes up a lot like Cesaro, or formerly Cesaro. Claudio Castagnoli uses it a lot. It's just like. It's an interesting little tidbit. I didn't really know that. 

Kelsey Silva [41:55 - 41:58]: Looks like someone else is new to wrestling today. 

Xavier [42:01 - 42:35]: Of course, Cornet gets involved. He tries to trip. Owen tries to hit him with the. The racket. Love when Jim Cornet's just causing chaos in the ring, Junior calls him, oh, here comes the Prince of Polyester waddling his way through the ring. And I just love that because they're such close friends. He just like, rips him a new on commentary like every. And it's fine because it's Just like, they're gonna go cut it up after. It's just, he said, Junior says, like, truly the most heinous things. Like, things you only really say to, like, USU sibling. 

Kelsey Silva [42:35 - 42:52]: Like, you know, it's so true because I was like, this would be the treatment we would have for each other. Like, if you were on commentary and I was doing something, or, like, vice versa. Like, you'd be like, oh, here goes. Miss thing again. She does right. Converting oxygen into carbon dioxide. 

Xavier [42:54 - 43:23]: Oh, so good. Oh. And hits Jared with the. With a beautiful ddt. He then goes and hits him with the. The corner low blow, where he goes onto the outside of the ring and pulls Jared's legs through the ring post. Follows that up with a missile drop kick. And Owens in. Zaguri is like, the way he kicks you in the back of the head, you're like, that's it, baby. That's done. 

Kelsey Silva [43:23 - 43:28]: Your eyeballs, like, launch out of your skull. Like, it's just. It's over, like, 100. 

Xavier [43:28 - 43:57]: Oh, it's great. So then he tries or he puts on the sharpshooter on Jeff Jarrett. Of course, Cornette tries to cheat with the racket, thus forcing the disqualification on the referees part. So Owen wins the match, keeps the title. Owen then puts Cornet in the sharpshooter. Love to see it finally. Love to get. Love when. Love when the managers finally get some of theirs. 

Kelsey Silva [43:57 - 43:59]: I love. It's like Christmas. 

Xavier [44:00 - 44:22]: Amazing little present for me, so. And then it looks like Jared's gonna sneak up behind Owen with the racket. I guess Owen's spidey senses were tingling because he caught it, turned around, and scared Jared off before he had the chance to use it. Yeah. So very, very interesting, love. 

Kelsey Silva [44:22 - 44:25]: I love to see Owen come out on top. Really, I really do. 

Xavier [44:26 - 44:27]: What a guy. 

Kelsey Silva [44:27 - 44:28]: What a guy. 

Xavier [44:28 - 44:53]: What a guy. Next, we are treated to a little video package on the history of doc. Kelsey did not know any of this. I've. I did not want to open the Freebird Pandora's box. There's a lot there, and it is quite a juxtaposition to the doc we know. 

Kelsey Silva [44:53 - 44:59]: I was like, yeah, I was flabbergasted, Googled and goggled. I had no idea. 

Xavier [44:59 - 45:16]: I was like, she didn't. She didn't know the Michael P.S. hayes of it all. The free birds, the. The moon walks, the dancing, the, like, running through, like, crowds and crowds of screaming girls. Like, he was like a rock star, basically. 

Kelsey Silva [45:17 - 45:25]: I love to see it. And honestly, I was like, he was cute when he was so young. Yeah, yeah, yeah, he was fine. 

Xavier [45:25 - 45:39]: Yeah. And they are in Texas. So they bring him out due to the legendary battles between the Free Birds and the Von Erichs, like all throughout Texas. So they were gonna have him come out and be the special guest ring announcer. However. 

Kelsey Silva [45:43 - 45:45]: The biggest however in this time. 

Xavier [45:45 - 46:03]: Period, right, the however of it all is Kane. Kane comes out. Kane's music. Kane's red light. Of course, Junior on commentary is like, just get out of there, man. Like, like you don't. Like, you know what's coming. You work here. 

Kelsey Silva [46:04 - 46:10]: Just go aftermath. Like he. He might have committed murder. Like, we're actually. 

Xavier [46:10 - 46:27]: It was unsure. It was bonkers. Of course. Doc tries to hit him with the classic the Freebird, like, boot to the face. Does nothing. Kane just eats it. He's got a giant thick mask on. I don't know why you thought. 

Kelsey Silva [46:27 - 46:29]: He literally went like. Is that a. Is that a bug? 

Xavier [46:29 - 46:37]: No. Yeah, actually choke slams him. Tombstones him. Rest in peace to this man. 

Kelsey Silva [46:39 - 46:45]: So anyway, we love you, Doc. Sorry that it had to go like this and, you know, we'll see you in the afterlife. 

Xavier [46:45 - 46:46]: Yeah, we'll catch you on the next one, right? 

Kelsey Silva [46:46 - 46:54]: Much love. Much love. No, I'm like, we don't. We. He's out here doing it to just regular Degular everyday people. 

Xavier [46:55 - 46:55]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [46:55 - 46:59]: He don't got his brother no more, so he's got to just beat up everybody else. 

Xavier [47:00 - 47:25]: Yeah, pretty much. So, yeah. Missing the Undertaker big time on that one. So that takes us into a light heavyweight division tag team match between Agila and Taka Michinoku and Brian Christopher and Peter Morgan. Sunny ends up being the special guest ring announcer. She comes out and just like a. Like a little two piece kind of number. 

Kelsey Silva [47:26 - 47:30]: Very cute, little white ensemble. Very, very cute. 

Xavier [47:31 - 47:57]: Yeah, she. She looked great. She was having a good time. Love to see it. Brian Christopher comes out and when he comes out, he decides to take his face in the camera and says, and I quote, I went out and got me a Mexican. End quote. Okay. Yeah, that was like. That was crazy. 

Kelsey Silva [47:58 - 47:58]: Ew. 

Xavier [47:58 - 48:03]: Not. I went out and got me a Mexican. Get a grip. So Get a grip. 

Kelsey Silva [48:04 - 48:08]: So something. I just. Oh, God. 

Xavier [48:09 - 48:12]: The way you need consequences is. 

Kelsey Silva [48:12 - 48:12]: Oh my. 

Xavier [48:13 - 48:14]: Really insane. 

Kelsey Silva [48:14 - 48:16]: Look at the father. 

Xavier [48:16 - 48:19]: Right, right. Listen to the father. 

Kelsey Silva [48:19 - 48:26]: At the father, girl. Yeah, listen to the father. Observe. Look at that. Look at that hairline, girl. I mean, it's. 

Xavier [48:26 - 48:27]: It's brutal. 

Kelsey Silva [48:27 - 48:33]: It's out here. Went out and got me a Mexican. 

Xavier [48:33 - 48:56]: Okay, great. So agila is only 19 years old, which is crazy. What I missed that he is 19 years old. He does. He performs a corkscrew plancha that is just, like, absolutely insane, which really is just, like, the invincibility of youth, like, in its. 

Kelsey Silva [48:56 - 48:57]: No, it's so true. 

Xavier [49:00 - 49:11]: Brian get. Brian Christopher gets in the match, wants Taka specifically because he just can't. Can't beat him. Michinoku's moonsault. A1. 

Kelsey Silva [49:11 - 49:12]: It's so quick. 

Xavier [49:12 - 49:19]: It's so quick. It feels like he's, like, literally, like, floated. Like he has hang time, which is. 

Kelsey Silva [49:19 - 49:22]: It looks like he's on, like, suspense. Like, you know, the. 

Xavier [49:23 - 49:23]: Oh, like the wines. 

Kelsey Silva [49:24 - 49:24]: Like, he's like. 

Xavier [49:25 - 49:26]: It's beautiful. 

Kelsey Silva [49:26 - 49:26]: So graceful. 

Xavier [49:28 - 49:48]: And Brian Christopher follows that up with a power bomb to the outside. Tataka. And his head, it. Oh, Like a basketball. Just like. Oh, it was brutal. It was brutal. It was brutal. It missed the mat completely. It was. His head just smacked onto the carpet, onto the cement floor. Like, it, like. 

Kelsey Silva [49:48 - 49:49]: Yeah, like. 

Xavier [49:49 - 49:51]: Oh, it was brutal. 

Kelsey Silva [49:51 - 50:02]: Concussed, to say the least. But this is the second time he's done this that it's kind of been like a flop, like, because who did. I think he did it to Pantera, and it was like, clunk city. It was so bad. 

Xavier [50:02 - 50:10]: Well, it's like, it's. It's supposed to be, like, a brutal maneuver, but it's just like. It just read reds like, so bad. 

Kelsey Silva [50:10 - 50:13]: Watermelon hitting the pavement, like, no. 

Xavier [50:15 - 50:28]: Of course we have the mutual admiration society between papa and his boy. Just the whole time, they're all just like, just. I can. So annoying. 

Kelsey Silva [50:28 - 50:36]: But the one part Junior was like. I don't know what he said. He's like, I almost had you. You almost said that. Was your kid this close? That was really funny. 

Xavier [50:36 - 51:04]: So good. And then Jerry just goes absolutely out of pocket and says to Junior, you have all daughters, correct? And J goes, yeah. And she goes, well, maybe one of your daughters will end up like Monica Lewinsky, and then you can go on national television and have to defend her like her father had to. And you're just like, I just. Well, how on earth. 

Kelsey Silva [51:04 - 51:06]: It was so good to see you guys. 

Xavier [51:08 - 51:30]: In what universe were those two things the same? Please tell me how pointing out the very true fact that that is your son is the equivalent of calling Junior's daughter, like, somebody, first of all, who got taken advantage of in a shitty situation. 

Kelsey Silva [51:30 - 51:33]: I was literally gonna say, this is for my girl Monica. 

Xavier [51:33 - 51:53]: I was like, first of all, like, insane. But to then just, like, be like, oh, like, what if one of your daughters. And I'm just For the lack of. This is how Jerry is phrasing it. He's just like, what if she. One of your daughters was a. And you're just like. Like, how is that the same? Like, how are you? Like, where does that rationale come from? 

Kelsey Silva [51:54 - 51:58]: No is zero. It's so stupid. 

Xavier [51:58 - 52:12]: You can tell that Junior was pissed about it. He was just like, oh, okay. And because literally he goes like, that was repulsive. Like, on air. Goes, that was repulsive. Like, that was a. That was a gross thing to say. 

Kelsey Silva [52:13 - 52:19]: And you're just like, it's so true. It's literally like, hey, that's your son. Is it? He goes, and what if your daughter grew up to be a. 

Xavier [52:20 - 52:20]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [52:20 - 52:24]: What are you talking about? Like, that's so random. 

Xavier [52:24 - 52:30]: I was like. I was like. And your son's an. Like, does that make you feel better? Like, I don't like. 

Kelsey Silva [52:31 - 52:40]: And also, you saying, like, well, what if your daughter. Okay, so then you're admitting that's your son, right? We're. We've already. You. 

Xavier [52:40 - 52:42]: Right? You told on yourself. 

Kelsey Silva [52:42 - 52:51]: You just told on yourself with doing the dumbest bit in history. Girl in history. So stupid. Repulsive. 

Xavier [52:52 - 53:47]: Yeah. Brian Christopher's getting heated out there on the. On the apron, getting. Having some words with the referee causing some chaos. He jumps into the match as the illegal competitor tries to do a maneuver on Taka. Taka throws him out to the outside and then finishes up the match with a michinoku driver on. Beat up. The Morgan gets the pinfall. Brian Christopher loses once again to Taka. And of course, Jerry is having an apoplectic moment on the outside because he just can't understand what happened. And I'm just like, dude, you're on commentary. You have monitors. It's actually quite literally your job to know what's happening. So, yeah, I don't know. It's been a year of this. I don't want to do this. It's been, like, pretty much. 

Kelsey Silva [53:47 - 53:49]: It's been pretty long. 

Xavier [53:49 - 53:50]: It's been pretty. 

Kelsey Silva [53:50 - 53:52]: Like, it's been since the inception of. 

Xavier [53:52 - 54:04]: The light heavyweight, 100%. And it's just like, bro, like, if you want to be his manager, like, go be his manager. But, like, don't play manager from commentary, because that's annoying. 

Kelsey Silva [54:05 - 54:13]: And it's so true. And I. This bit is not moving anywhere. Like, it's not like it doesn't do anything for the plot of any. 

Xavier [54:13 - 54:14]: There is no plot. 

Kelsey Silva [54:14 - 54:16]: There's nothing there. It's just. 

Xavier [54:17 - 54:17]: Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [54:17 - 54:28]: Like, are you. You just don't want him to be what Accused of being like a Nepo baby or something. Like, I don't. We literally had their like they laud like second generation, third generation wrestlers. Like, what is the problem? 

Xavier [54:28 - 54:28]: Right? 

Kelsey Silva [54:29 - 54:35]: Like you're up the rocks ass. But like. And he's like the third generation. So what's the problem? 

Xavier [54:35 - 54:36]: What's the difference? 

Kelsey Silva [54:37 - 54:38]: I don't get it. 

Xavier [54:38 - 55:26]: I don't know. Stupid, stupid. Over it. So next we are going to have Steve Blackman taking on Farouk. But first, all of the nation comes out. We get, of course, a classic nation domination entrance. And the Rock has gifts for the nation. The Rock says he's, he's got some things he'd like to address. You know, for all the hooten nanny and whatnot, I am still, excuse me, the intercontinental champion. And there is absolutely no dissension in the nation. Crazy. And he goes. So for my boys, he goes, dlo like mark, I got you fifteen thousand dollar gold Rolexes. And you're like, okay, hop off. Sure. Go to town. 

Kelsey Silva [55:26 - 55:27]: Sure, sure, sure, sure. 

Xavier [55:28 - 55:46]: And then he's like, there's only one man that can lead the nation. And for Roop, that's you. So for you, I got you something like extra special. And it is just a giant shirtless portrait of the Rock with his intercontinental champion. 

Kelsey Silva [55:46 - 55:47]: That is so evil. 

Xavier [55:48 - 55:51]: So good. That is nasty. Work. 

Kelsey Silva [55:51 - 55:51]: Work. 

Xavier [55:51 - 55:52]: Nasty work. 

Kelsey Silva [55:53 - 56:13]: Nasty work. I'm gonna say, like, it's so funny because obviously I know it's a bit. But I had that moment of like Farouk opening it and I went like, like, that's really mean. Like, it made me upset. I was like, also, everyone else gets jewelry and when I get an ugly picture of you, that's mean. That's bullying. I don't like it. 

Xavier [56:13 - 56:15]: I was like, the point. 

Kelsey Silva [56:15 - 56:19]: I have that like sad feeling for him. I won't lie. 

Xavier [56:20 - 56:21]: That's so funny. 

Kelsey Silva [56:21 - 56:22]: So, so stupid. 

Xavier [56:23 - 56:26]: And I love on commentary. They're like, it must be like fine art. 

Kelsey Silva [56:26 - 56:36]: Incredible. Oh, yeah. They're like going like, it must be a Renoir girl. There's no way you would wrap a Monet in. 

Xavier [56:36 - 56:41]: No, it's a Dwayne. I'm so sorry. So sorry. 

Kelsey Silva [56:41 - 56:42]: It's a Johnson. 

Xavier [56:43 - 56:57]: It's a Johnson. And honestly, if there isn't like a. A more Johnson esque move than. Here, take this framed photo of me. 

Kelsey Silva [56:59 - 57:04]: Yeah. He literally went like that. Yeah, okay. Oh my. 

Xavier [57:04 - 57:50]: Hold it. It's heavy. So crazy. So of course the Farouk wants no part of any of that. Like, he's like, well, and. But there was so the Rock's like, okay. Weird, but okay. So he, like, takes the portrait, and it's just on the outside of the ring, admiring it for the two and a half minutes that this match is. He's. He's. He's looking it up and down. He's showing it to the crowd. He's out here. Oh, just great work. Stunning. Amazing. And so he's out here, like, showing the crowd the photo of himself. Because there's something so crazy about your face, and your face just being like, look, I need you to see it twice. 

Kelsey Silva [57:50 - 57:51]: Have you seen this? 

Xavier [57:51 - 58:12]: No. 100. It's like, I'm literally looking at you like, yes. So he's out here, like, showed off the picture. Farouk's, like, over it. He grabs it. And he's going to use the photo to hit Steve Blackman with it, by the way. Matches just ongoing. 

Kelsey Silva [58:12 - 58:18]: And I, like, saw nothing of it because it was mostly just the Rock, like, doing the most. 

Xavier [58:19 - 59:04]: Yeah, doing absolutely the most. So before Farouk can complete the dastardly action, the Rock takes back his prized possession. Because how dare Farouk try and use a photo of the Rock. Absolutely not. The Rock's like. He's, like, annoyed that the photo has been damaged. This. While this is going on, Steve Blackman hits Farouk with a quick roll up, gets the win and books it by. That man's not getting paid by the hour. No, no, no. He said. He said. No, no, no. He's like. He said, I'm gonna get my W. That's your drama over there. Thank you. 

Kelsey Silva [59:05 - 59:16]: Problematic Steve Blackman, he's just he to go, like. He goes, I am coming here to do my job that I'm contractually obligated to do, and I am not in this mess. I'll see y' all in the future. 

Xavier [59:16 - 59:19]: And 100% leaves. And I love to see it. 

Kelsey Silva [59:19 - 59:22]: Respect, love and admiration for that energy. 

Xavier [59:22 - 59:23]: No, 100%. 

Kelsey Silva [59:23 - 59:25]: Thank you, Steve. 

Xavier [59:25 - 59:59]: So he leaves the nation to, of course, deal with that. The Farouk is obviously real pissed. He then destroys the Rock's portrait, leaving the Rock a distraught mess in the ring. He tells the rest of the nation to kind of follow him back to the ring. The Rock is literally frantically, like, trying to pick up the pieces of his fragmented face. And, like, so, so clear. So clearly the dissension is very prevalent. 

Kelsey Silva [59:59 - 1:00:00]: Very real. 

Xavier [1:00:01 - 1:00:02]: We love. 

Kelsey Silva [1:00:03 - 1:00:08]: I'm still kind of giggling at. No, it's a D. No, it's what? It's a Dwayne. 

Xavier [1:00:11 - 1:00:12]: That's amazing. 

Kelsey Silva [1:00:12 - 1:00:15]: So funny. When I was like, oh, it's A. 

Xavier [1:00:16 - 1:00:18]: It's a Monet. It's a Dwayne. 

Kelsey Silva [1:00:18 - 1:00:21]: Yeah, sorry, you. I, like. I cut out for a second, but I'm back. 

Xavier [1:00:23 - 1:00:58]: So good. So good. So next. Oh, we get, like, a very brief kind of, like, video package on Stone Cold Steve Austin, which I just thought was hilarious. So I made note of was like, oh, yeah, it's just him, like. Like, Just, like. I don't know, I guess, like, underneath the bleachers somewhere. You know, it just gives, like, that vibe like. Like. Like. I don't know. This feels like a video package for a greaser where he's just like. He's like. Compassion. Never heard of her. Mercy. You should go to church. 

Kelsey Silva [1:00:58 - 1:01:03]: Yeah, if you want mercy, you gotta go to church. And you're like, all right. 

Xavier [1:01:04 - 1:01:22]: And then it cuts to Michael Cole standing in front of. Literally. It's so. It's so funny because Michael Cole is standing outside of the Nation of Domination locker room. Like, you have, like, neighbors that fight, and you're just standing out in the hallway just being like, oh, girl, what? 

Kelsey Silva [1:01:22 - 1:01:25]: Or when you. When you start sweeping the front porch. 

Xavier [1:01:25 - 1:01:27]: He did what? The sidewalk? Yeah. 

Kelsey Silva [1:01:27 - 1:01:31]: So, yeah, when you start, like, trimming the lawn with scissors, and you're like. 

Xavier [1:01:31 - 1:02:14]: 100, Michael Cole, like, tries to open the door, like, gets it, like, shut, because apparently there's, like. It's just, like, a cartoon dust ball of limbs and, like, cat noises happening behind the door. And then. And then D. Lo just kind of, like, escapes, like, from the fray. Just. Just. He literally, like, the door, like, shuts immediately behind him. He's like, oh. He's like. He's like, so, like, what's. Like, what's going on in there? Like, it sounds, like, pretty. Pretty bad. Like, what's. What's happening? And he's like, oh, no, this is nothing. We're just packing for a long flight. Don't worry. He's like. He's like, this is nothing. Like, he's like, brothers fight family. Like, it happens like this. It'll blow over. 

Kelsey Silva [1:02:14 - 1:02:17]: It's all love in there. Yeah, it's all love in there. 

Xavier [1:02:17 - 1:02:20]: And then. And then he amends it. He goes, tough love. But it's all. 

Kelsey Silva [1:02:20 - 1:02:29]: But it's loved. This. This was so funny. I love DLO so much. 

Xavier [1:02:29 - 1:02:47]: This was the first time we really see dlo's personality. Like, yes, he was given the opportunity to speak. Really? So. And I love this because. Listen, listen. DLO has been ride or die for the Nation of Domination. He has been, like, the foot soldier. You know what I mean? 

Kelsey Silva [1:02:47 - 1:02:48]: Not Even kidding. 

Xavier [1:02:48 - 1:02:53]: So like, finally let this man speak. Let's see his personality. I love it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:02:53 - 1:03:07]: I'm serious. And I feel like if it was a democracy, they would vote like DLO to the top. Like, you know what I mean? It's like he'd been here from the beginning. He's always down to throw hands. He's loyal to the soil. He got thrown through the. The stone cold truck window. 

Xavier [1:03:07 - 1:03:11]: Like, Lord knows Ahmed Johnson did a number on him. Boop. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:11 - 1:03:14]: He's been taking bumps from the rip. 

Xavier [1:03:15 - 1:03:15]: Right. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:16 - 1:03:18]: President. DLO for president. 

Xavier [1:03:18 - 1:03:39]: Thank you. Thank you. So. Yeah. Which was a fantastic segment. So in our main event, we have Gold Dust with Luna teaming with Mark Miro taking on Cactus Jack and Chainsaw Charlie. We have Gold Dust a la regular gold dust. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:39 - 1:03:40]: Regular gold dust. 

Xavier [1:03:41 - 1:03:44]: And honestly, I'll take the return to form. Thank you. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:44 - 1:03:50]: And like Luna was like pantomiming Marlena. Like she had a cigar. She had like the little gold fit. 

Xavier [1:03:50 - 1:03:51]: Yeah. Which I'm here for it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:51 - 1:03:52]: I'm fine. 

Xavier [1:03:53 - 1:03:54]: I'm okay with that. Cool. 

Kelsey Silva [1:03:54 - 1:03:58]: I miss the big gold dust, like humongous shoulder pad cloak kind of thing. 

Xavier [1:03:59 - 1:04:40]: It so love to see it. Apparently next week Goldust is going to present the American Dream. Scared for whatever that is. Don't know what that entails. Don't know what that means. Very scared. I love the way that Goldust and Miro sell the chainsaw from. From Chainsaw Terry Funk. I love it. They literally like over the top, like, throw themselves like, like out of the ring. Running up the ramp. Just like, no, like, no, don't want any part of it. Just be like, absolutely hamming it up. And I'm like, yes, absolutely. So, like, make me believe, like, Terry's gonna do you dirty before Terry touches you. I love it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:04:41 - 1:04:42]: Yeah. Love it. 

Xavier [1:04:43 - 1:04:56]: Yeah. So this match is great. Gold dust. We get some classic gold dust maneuvers. The kiss on the corner. Cactus and Charlie decided that they want to have a wrestling classic. They want to. They want to have a technical. 

Kelsey Silva [1:04:57 - 1:04:59]: The NWA is going to come out and recruit them. 

Xavier [1:04:59 - 1:05:06]: They're going like, like toeholds chain wrestling. I was like, okay, guys, the whole. 

Kelsey Silva [1:05:06 - 1:05:08]: The whole gag, I was like, all right. 

Xavier [1:05:08 - 1:06:03]: And. But the thing is that that's crazy is like Terry Funk is so well versed in all of that. But we forget because in his older age, he like, he's really likened himself to the, like the hardcore style. So you forget that this man is like a multip world change. Like, this man is decorated and like, and I just, I eat it up. I Eat it up. So, of course, Sable comes down because she's not going to be denied. She comes down with the flowers like a pageant queen. She said, yeah. She said, hey. And now, like. And, you know, like, in the beginning, like, Mark Miro's, like, making up things. As far as, like, Sable's behavior, now she's doing it on purpose, and now I'm here for it. 

Kelsey Silva [1:06:05 - 1:06:06]: You want me to be the bad guy? 

Xavier [1:06:08 - 1:07:20]: I'll be whatever you want me to be. Sounds great. So she comes down. She's like, holding her, like, oh, absolutely. Like, it's homecoming. She's like, hey. Oh, my God, she gotta go. She gotta go see the court. Hey. So she comes down, of course, Miro's big pissed. He's like, immediately trying to get her to go back to the back. Sable's like, no, like, I'm out here. I'm gonna see, like, what's good, what's happening. Luna gets a hold of the flowers, absolutely destroys them. Of course, much to the chagrin of Sable, they have already been having a beef. So that just immediately sets off just chaos on the outside of the ring. Luna's getting, like. Sable's getting in Luna's face. Like, the. They're tried. They're getting separated by the two tag team partners. It's a mess. The ref is absolutely distracted by whatever's going on in there that he doesn't see. Mick Foley, Cactus Jack, dude, love mankind, whoever you want to call him today, just walk out of the ring, grab a chair, smack, smack, Goldust with it. Mark me, I don't even remember. 

Kelsey Silva [1:07:20 - 1:07:21]: I don't even. I think it was. Was gold. 

Xavier [1:07:21 - 1:07:36]: I think it was gold because Miro was dealing with the chaos, and then they pick up the victory, and that's that on that and the match or the episode ends, which is the chaos of them all, like, girlies fighting. And I love it. I love. 

Kelsey Silva [1:07:36 - 1:08:01]: She was like, you want me to be the bad guy? So last time you want to see a bad guy do a rap game like me. So good wrestling game like me. So I'll come out here with my titties out and my bundle of flowers that some other man sent me or woman, we don't know, imagine it was China. That would be so fierce. They're not ready for that. 

Xavier [1:08:01 - 1:08:02]: No, they're not ready for that. 

Kelsey Silva [1:08:03 - 1:08:12]: Yeah. I so good. I love. I love to see Sable throw hands. Love to see it. 

Xavier [1:08:12 - 1:09:04]: Oh, amen. So looking forward to that. We are on the road to WrestleMania. We are about five weeks out from WrestleMania 14, so we have. That card's already, like, shaping up. That's going to be Stone Cold and Shawn Michaels. It's going to be the Rock and Ken Shamrock, who's. I don't know if we have a. A tag team title match shaped up just yet. Owen Hart is going to take on Triple H for the European Championship. And. And I know some other matches, but I'll wait until they're actually announced. So. So, yes, things to look forward to. Thanks, guys. This has been another edition of the New to Wrestling podcast. Thanks for checking out. Just a regular Schmegler episode. We are so back, baby, baby. 

Kelsey Silva [1:09:04 - 1:09:06]: We're back. It felt good. 

Xavier [1:09:06 - 1:09:07]: Amen. 

Kelsey Silva [1:09:07 - 1:09:08]: I missed it. 

Xavier [1:09:09 - 1:09:35]: So look out for upcoming interviews. We have a bunch coming up, guys, so please bear with us while we balance the re watch of it all and the interviews as we try and grow the show a little bit. So for Kelsey, I'm Xavier. This has been another edition of the New to Wrestling podcast and we will catch you on the next one. 

Kelsey Silva [1:09:35 - 1:09:36]: We'll see you there. 

Xavier [1:09:36 - 1:09:53]: Bye. Bye, Sam.