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Inside Ringville - Kevin Herrera Sanchez | Indie Wrestling, Interviews & Building Community

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On this episode of New to Wrestling: After Dark, we’re joined by someone we’ve admired for a long time — Kevin Herrera Sanchez, the creator and host behind Ringville.

Kevin flips the script and joins us on the other side of the interview for a wide-ranging, thoughtful, and genuinely joyful conversation about wrestling, creativity, and building something meaningful from the ground up.

We talk about Kevin’s journey into wrestling fandom, how independent wrestling reignited his love for the art form, and why he chose to focus on interviews, production, and community rather than stepping into the ring himself. Kevin opens up about starting Ringville with no industry connections, teaching himself how to be comfortable on camera, and doing everything himself — from research and lighting to editing and outreach.

The conversation dives deep into:

  • What makes a wrestling interview feel authentic and human
  • Why in-person conversations matter so much in wrestling media
  • The crossover between film, photography, and wrestling storytelling
  • Kevin’s philosophy on creating safe, creative spaces for indie wrestlers
  • How community, generosity, and curiosity drive everything he builds

We also get into favorite matches, the power of tag team wrestling, dream interviews, creative risks, tooth gems (yes, really), and what “success” actually means when you’re telling wrestling stories with care.

To close things out, we highlight a cause close to our hearts:
 🧥 The New to Wrestling x DollyMoo Coat Drive, benefiting Toni’s Kitchen in Montclair, NJ — a reminder that wrestling communities don’t just show up online, they show up for each other.

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This is a conversation about wrestling — but also about creativity, confidence, and building something real.

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The New To Wrestling Podcast follows two friends who enjoy wrestling but are in different stages of their fandom. Xavier Cruz serves as your guide through generations of professional wrestling while Kelsey Silva experiences these matches for the first time. Climb into the ring weekly to relive the famous matches beginning with the Attitude Era!

SPEAKER_00

Your discretion is advised.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, good evening, everyone, and welcome to another edition of the Nude Wrestling Podcast After Dark. I don't know if I can even get through this intro. I am cheesing so hard right now. If you are not new here, you know I've probably talked about this person and their show a hundred times every interview we do. I'm bringing this person up. And even though I he has been doing this since I believe spring of 2024, I feel like this is like my like father figure in wrestling interviews, the godfather. Like, I don't know. For some reason, I just feel like that's that's Poppy. Like, I don't know. Like, and I just I mean, this person yapped with wrestlers so that I could snoop. And I can think of no more symbiotic relationship than that for me. Like, that is peak for me. He is incredibly talented. He has one of my favorite YouTube wrestling shows that there is. And he's a tooth gem shorty, or at least he was. We're gonna talk about it because I need to know the T right now about the tooth gems. You guys, it's Kevin Jareda Sanchez. It's KHS from Ringville. Oh my god, welcome, Kevin. I'm really trying to be cool, but I'm not cool at all about this.

SPEAKER_00

No, you know what? Look, thank you very much for that. Um, hello to you, Kelsey and Xavier. I truly appreciate that. A little tear coming down. Yeah, period. That was very lovely. That was very lovely, very sweet. Um, I appreciate the kind words so much. I'm also a fan of the show, and it's like I I was uh excited to be on. I got home like probably like an hour ago, and I was just kind of giddy, like, oh, let's go. Today's a meeting, it's gonna be the interview. It's like I'm excited. Um but yeah, I'm excited.

SPEAKER_03

Good, because also you told us before, right before we started that this is your first time on the other side, the interviewee instead of being the interviewer. How is it feeling so far?

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's like throughout the day was going today, I was just like kind of having a little moment of like, oh, this is what wrestlers probably feel like on the day of when they're coming over to me, you know, and it's just like I was trying to think of like answers to hypothetical questions or whatever, or but I'm just like, you know what? I'm gonna just go with the flow, see, and just try to connect with you two in the in sort of way where it's like, because I think the like chemistry both of you have is great. Like when I'm watching the show, I'm just like, oh, hold up. This is these feel like my friends, you know? Period.

SPEAKER_03

That's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_00

I'm there with y'all talking or just listening. Um, so that's really how I approach it today, where it's like, I'm gonna just go in with the flow, and if we and we're gonna click in a certain way.

SPEAKER_03

Period. And so true.

SPEAKER_00

We appreciate that really.

SPEAKER_03

And I was gonna say um before we started, and then I was like, I'll save it for for the show, but it's so funny because there are certain, and I'm so curious too about your process for preparing for interviews. Um, because in for today, um, and also it was just you and Ray that this happened, um uh former Spec Wrestling. And where I was like, I don't even need to write down questions because I just know, and it's not because I didn't re try and research the shit out of you, go down the deep dark web looking at stuff and whatever. I was just like, I just know the energy is just gonna click and it's gonna be just a vibe, a kiki, like it's just gonna be what it is. And I'm really trying to talk shop. Like, I'm really trying to talk about like you, how you got into wrestling and all of that. But I also want to talk about like if we can like talk about like behind the scenes of the show, like just like compare and contrast and just like talk shop.

SPEAKER_00

Like, I'm just trying to like no absolutely, yeah, yeah. Okay, great to like give you like insight into just like what's my process, right? Yeah, um for me, the way I decide to like invite somebody onto the show, it very much depends on a few things, and it's never like a like a solid, oh, this is what people need to do, right? But um, whenever I go see a show live, I'm just like, okay, who catches my eye in terms of their charisma, in terms of their promo skills, or just like their technique in the in the ring? So it's like that's a factor. Um, social media presence sometimes plays a part, um, just to see how like how much they get across their their character.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then um just like I would say like certain things like um just like stuff that they share too, where it's like, does something pique my interest? Is like, oh hold up, I like that. Or just like, oh wait, I actually like this wrestling take too.

SPEAKER_03

That's so interesting.

SPEAKER_00

You know, just stuff like that.

SPEAKER_03

I love that because I I feel like Xavier and I, and like Xavier, you can jump in because you're the most adamant, like you're the one who is usually securing the interviewees because I'm just like the the floating dust in the wind. Um but I I I think that's really interesting because I you can tell like when you watch your show, like you really obviously like know these wrestlers and know certain things about them, like their style in the ring, like, oh, I saw you talking to this person, or like I saw you post with this person on social media. I was watching some of your interviews today, like went and watched your very first one and then kind of like worked my way through different ones I was just like interested in. Um, I re-watched some of my faves. But I your the way that you talk to people, one, I it's just first of all, the pure fact that you do it by yourself because I need this bitch. Like I need to like bounce off of and stuff, but the fact that you do it alone also to me is like such an indicator of your investment in even figuring out who the guest will be on your show. Does that make sense?

SPEAKER_00

It does, it does. And um, there's been times where I've had like friends help me, you know, like uh yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like in certain episodes, it's like you can hear like uh I have a friend named Ryan Tony. He's like, he was the person who was showing me a lot of the camera equipment and just like how to use it. So it's like he will be laughing at our conversation, yeah, or it's like yeah, then I've had very various like uh sound people who just I worked with outside of this wrestling stuff, and it's like uh David, I believe is one of them where it's like he was also just laughing, you know, and we're all just kind of especially in the Nick Shin episode. Nick describes a bump that he took, and there's like 10 minutes of footage that I just had to cut out because it's just us laughing.

SPEAKER_03

I love that. I need to release the super cut now. I need to see the the the Sanchez cut right now.

SPEAKER_02

That's funny as hell.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I like because also um you have a great laugh. Like you have one of my favorite laughs, also like like the the giggle is so great, and I just um I think you're great because uh or like interviewing too is like because you seem very like stoic and chill, but like you also like know your shit, but it also like gives great layup to the talent to be like this kind of bigger presence, and so like then that give and take ends up being so special, I feel.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, thank you. I appreciate that. I used to get made fun of my laugh in elementary school, so you're not well.

SPEAKER_03

Y'all are twisted and whack. If any of you are watching this, you're wrong.

SPEAKER_01

Well, children are evil, so like that's fine.

SPEAKER_03

Children are evil. Thank you. Yeah, I go ahead. Sorry.

SPEAKER_00

No, yeah, that's uh like one of the things I tell people before like we start like recording and getting into it, is like I very much try to be the thermostaff and not like the temperature, where it's like I'll match people's energy and I'll match people's like way of talking, their charisma, just because that one I think that also helps them feel much more comfortable, and yeah, it's like then we can really start bouncing off jokes or ideas or topics or whatever, and it's like it just creates a better flow of conversation.

SPEAKER_03

I love that. Yeah, makes complete sense.

SPEAKER_01

Um, so let's go like backwards. Let's when does wrestling fall into your life, and then um where do you go get the first like kind of like rumblings of like, okay, I want to do this show?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so I the first time I ever saw wrestling, I was sitting on like the edge of my parents' bed while they were just kind of turning my uh turning the channel, and it was in 2006. It was a random raw backstage segment with John Cena, um Big Show, and like Bugger T. Because they were building up to that triple threat in like Cyber Sunday, where it's like all three champions went against each other, but only one of them were uh was on the line.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_00

And you know, as a kid, I I believe I was like eight. I just like gravitated towards John Cena and I was like, hold up, this dude, cool, you know? So from there, I just like kept watching it, and it's like, yeah, it's like the more people I was introduced to, like Shawn Michaels, Triple H, Jeff Hardy, you know, it's like um the more people like the more I just liked it. So I was a fan until honestly, like Shawn Michaels retired after he left. I was just like, I uh I think I'm out of here. Yeah, I guess so I took a break until 2014 when like the peak of like Daniel Bryan, like he's the reason that like I came back, and then from there I just like dived into like NXT, and then like the black and gold era of NXT was really something that like kept me going. Um and then like from there I just like kept watching. So I didn't ever really have that like idea to be a wrestler, per se. Um, like I just knew from the jump where I was just like, eh, it's just not something I really want to focus on. Um but I but there was one match that almost changed my mind, and it was Johnny Gargano and Adam Cole at MSC take over uh the one in Connecticut, not even the one in New York, um, when that's when like Adam Cole wins the title. And I was just like, oh, hold up, I might do this. I might actually just like look up a bunch of schools or whatever and like try to go at it. But I have weak ankles.

SPEAKER_01

I love that.

SPEAKER_00

You know, it's like we we just gotta be honest with you with ourselves, and like my shoulders sometimes hurt, so I'm just like, yo, I don't wanna, I don't wanna just put my put my body in that kind of pain. Um so I just kind of like stopped like not pursuing wrestling in any time kind of like career aspect. Um it but it wasn't until I wanna say like 2020, like right after the pandemic, where uh like my film working stuff, like and like that part of like my life, like was like really taken off, and like I was extremely busy. So it's like around in 2021, like some stuff started to like kind of get a little slower. And I and I just had some time and I was just like, oh, I want to work in wrestling, but you know, not in the wrestling side of it, but the production side. So, but I had like no connections, no fan friends or family that like knew or like worked in wrestling. So I just like sent a bunch of code emails to some companies, and I was like, hey, look, my name is this. Um and this is the skills that I have, this is you know what I think I'll be good at, and this is what I want to do. Um, I got no reply, which it is what it is, like it's like has to reply to me. That's fine. It's also I'm like, who am I? You know, I like they could probably be getting like tons of those emails. Um so I just like once that that didn't happen, I like sat down and just kind of shelved the idea for a while. Um, and it wasn't until the early of 2023 where I was just like, okay, I really want to do something in wrestling, and I and I always and I always enjoy talking to people. So I was like, let me start interviewing wrestlers. Um, and in 2019, I discovered independent wrestling because AEW came up and I was like, where everybody coming from? Hold up, like only the Fed, like so true. So it's like I then went to like my first House of Glory show. Oh, yeah, uh Will Ospreay. Nice. That's when I learned about a bunch of like other wrestlers. I was like, oh, hold up, hold up. This and the atmosphere wherever they do whenever they do their shows is just like incredible. So that's really just like like, oh, I want to kind of keep keep going to these shows. Um, so yeah, in like 2023, I was like, cool, let me try to talk to like independent wrestlers and like let me interview them. So I kind of spent a year figuring out what I wanted the show to look like, the identity, how will I, you know, like um approach the interviews? Because usually when I work in like film, I'm on the other side of the camera, right? I'm never like in front. So I also had to learn how to like be comfortable and okay with being on camera. Um, so I like spent like 90 days close to like three to four months just kind of talking to my phone and practicing how to, you know, like because even to this day now, I like still stutter or like trip over my words, da-da-da. And um, and it's like just over time, you know, it's like thankfully for my show, I don't have the like pressure of being live.

SPEAKER_03

So I can just so true. Same here, yeah. Fix it in the old girl, we'll fix it in post. Exactly.

SPEAKER_00

So it's like, so even now, like I still like struggle with some some of that, but before it was worse. So it's like that like 90 days, yeah, yeah. It's like I'm take uh I'm a pretty shy person at times. Well, a little less now, but before, yeah. So it was really just kind of getting used to like speaking on camera and just like being okay with seeing myself on camera because I don't know who edits this podcast, but it's like hearing myself, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's it's so brave, he's so brave, and then sometimes you just get so sick of yourself, like I'm just so tired of looking at me. But you know, you gotta get through it. You could you gotta like take yourself out of it as much as you can, um, to just be like, okay, like like if I'm not me, can I is this can I stomach this? Is this okay? It's hard, it's hard. It's hard to watch yourself.

SPEAKER_00

Extremely it's it's like hearing your just hearing yourself on like a phone message or something, or like a voicemail.

SPEAKER_02

Ew, it's so terrible.

SPEAKER_00

Throw that out. Throw that out.

SPEAKER_03

No, I'm not getting thank God Xavier edits because I sometimes can't. I try and watch our normal show, but we were talking about this with Ray too. I was trying to I try to watch our normal week-to-week show, like raw re-watch, because one, uh, you should. And two, I don't want to repeat myself every week and say the same like take on somebody every week. So I'm like, I just have to remember what I said, but I cannot rewatch our interviews, which is horrible because like it's not even about me, it's about the other person, but it's like there's some sort of like unleash different impromptu version of us when we interview people. And I'm like, if you don't shut up, like I can't I can't take it. So thank God exactly handles it. But yeah, I really I completely get that. And like, so you I'm sorry, and also I didn't mean to interrupt you, I didn't want to interrupt your thought, but I was gonna say it's interesting. So when you so do you edit your own show then because you do like kind of the behind-the-scenes stuff. Wow, god bless.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like um I right now in this moment in time, I do everything. Yeah, like I I reach out to the wrestlers, I edit all the episodes, I do all the research, I set up all the lights, all the cameras, all the sound stuff.

SPEAKER_01

It's just like uh And do you feel like um like the style that you like you've chosen, like to have them like come to you and have it like be in person, like add something? Because we obviously we do it this way. Um we are also in separate states, so like we kind of you know have to, but um um like you can't teleport. No, you know, I'm working on it. Ooh, that's a no get away from me, babe.

SPEAKER_00

You know that um you know that uh picture of SpongeBob and uh Pat uh Squidward when he like lifts his shirt and they're just connected.

SPEAKER_03

No, literally mostly so sick. I said somebody today, like um, I was talking to our friend Pat on a and I was like, oh yeah, like it's Xavier's turn to come up and see me anyway, as per like lavender marriage divorce agreement. Like 1,000%. I'm like, I just saw him, so now he's gotta come see me. So we'll be there. But yeah, I I I was gonna say, I so understand. It's really funny. I think when people, when we do this and then we meet people in real life, I think people think we're gonna be like like so outgoing and over the top and like extroverted. And oh no, we're shy babies. Oh my god, we are such wallflowers, and it's so funny. Even the other day we went to holiday hangover, and there was like a wrestler we wanted to talk to after, and I I just was like shut down. I was like, I'm so sorry, you need to initiate this.

SPEAKER_01

I can't literally, I I was just like Xavier, take the lead, and he didn't think I was like, because we can't stand in their vicinity forever, we gotta we gotta break it.

SPEAKER_00

Right, right, right.

SPEAKER_03

But I was like, you need to take it. Sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, but yeah, to answer your question, Xavier. Um that was like a big thing when I was thinking about like just what the show will look like itself. Um, I was just kind of going through YouTube and seeing who else like kind of in interviews independent wrestlers, and I was just like, oh, most of these are via Zoom and just or like you know, whatever other online platform there is. And it's like I don't think there's anything wrong with that. That's that's actually my introduction to a lot of people's because it's like, how am I talking to someone from you know freaking Texas or something like that? And it's like um, so it's like I think that's that's if if that's what you can do, absolutely do it. It's never an excuse not to. Uh, but for me, like I in film when I work on like interviews for like other companies or whatever, it's like I can always tell that the chemistry is very much better in person, and there is a connection that is there that isn't always fully there online. And and I was just like, okay. I can also make this look really good in terms of like lighting and like production. So that's that's gonna be my strengths when I do start this. So it's like uh what does it what was the saying like wrestling says where it's like you know, uh showcase your strengths, hide your weaknesses, right? Paul Heyman. Like right. Um, I before the first episode or the like the first batch of recordings, I had never interviewed anybody else. So I was yeah, literally.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, like we kind of dove into, but still, like you're by yourself, like that is so crazy to me.

SPEAKER_00

And so I was just like, okay, I can make this look pretty good, and I can let that kind of carry me for a little bit while I improve my skills and work on what I'm doing. Um, so that was like my approach to it. It's like I can make this look good, the connection is better, and um it's um and it was really picked up from Chris Van Vliet.

SPEAKER_01

I was just watching him today, actually.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, oh he's great, he's great, yeah. He's uh and um he like over of course over the pandemic, like only online interviews, right? Right, and then he in I forgot which episode it is, but he explained it that in person, it just feels better, and it's like the conversation flows much better. It's like you know, you kind of get to really experience who a person is. Um, and I just kind of thought about it, it was like, okay, if I'm able to do that, hopefully the viewer is also gonna be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that makes complete sense. I love that. And do they like so did you and we don't have to like dox you or anything, but like do they come to like your house or like you have a space? You have like a space.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, when I first started, I I used to shoot these in Brooklyn.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

I had a friend who like uh Um, you know, I was like, I used to like had I had like this monthly subscription to like this studio spot. Um and then now I shoot them in a Bronx because I found another spot. So it's like, yeah, I have I usually have a designated location to where I do these. Um, but I have done them in my place before.

SPEAKER_02

Really?

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Because there was one time where it's like it was I tend to try I try to do these like recordings on a Friday or Saturday, you know, weekend works better for people. Um, and then like on a Thursday, the person in charge of the studio was like, yo, Kev, you cannot use it. And I had like scheduled everything, I did all my research, I sent out, you know, like all the emails and everything, all the information. And I was just like, okay, hold up, what am I gonna do? And it's like I don't like canceling on people. So I was just like, you know what, Kev, you gotta eat that. You gotta eat that. Everybody's coming over. Exactly, exactly.

SPEAKER_03

And because it's from and I was gonna say too though, what you were saying about like kind of getting your feet wet and just like hopefully the lighting and the the whatever will carry the show until you get like quote unquote good at interviewing. I was gonna say your first interview with Diamond was so good though. Like it's it's like I was watching and I was like, it feels like it feels like how do I explain this? Like, um, you know how um like Stone Cold had the broken skull sessions, but it was just on like the WWE network, and then they put it on YouTube. It felt like you'd been doing this show and then suddenly it was put on YouTube like because it just felt like it already existed. Do you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_00

I do, I get I get what you mean.

SPEAKER_03

It just felt like it had always been somewhere, but now it was like accessible to the the general populace, yeah, because it just felt so natural. And I was like, surely this can't be the first episode, but it's so amazing. And like even the the Ringville like font with the branding and like the setup and everything. I was like, and even the um what do you call it? I can't think of the slate, yes, um ringville episode, whatever. Love that and like so. What was the the inspiration for just the name, like even just the setup with the the thing?

SPEAKER_00

Right, the slate. So that was like the year that from like 2023 to like the first, because I believe the first episodes were recorded in February, and they weren't posted until March, right? So it's like and the idea started in in 2023, so it's like I really spent a year trying to figure out like the identity and just like how am I going to uh really format this show? And um uh I chose I did the slate thing because that's like just a tie-in to film. Like I work in film, like that's like my first career. So it's like cool, I'm gonna I'm gonna bring that with me. And then um, like the logos and everything. Like, I have a I have a friend who's an artist, his name is uh TED F. T-E-D-F. It's like he does like beautiful like wood pieces on canvases. Wow, extremely talented. Um, and he but he's also like a graphic designer, so I would I just kind of spent longer than I thought it would take because I could not figure out how to explain the ideas inside my head. Right. I so get that, and so I was just like, yeah, you know, it's gonna be simple. It's like just do this. But then he would come with me, like or come to me with something completely different, and I was just like, oh, okay. So I've also had to figure out how to speak to other people based off what I want. Um, so it's like, yeah. Um, so it's like the KHS logo with the little like two titles, like that like took six months to make, and it's like that thing, um, and then when it comes to Ringville, the name really comes from like my favor, um, my one of my favorite labels for in and music, it's uh Dreamville. Dreamville. I know, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like, yeah, like just that whole label, especially like Cole and J like top-tier artists. Period. I'm just like, you know what? I'm me too.

SPEAKER_03

Me too, top tier. I'm gonna add myself to the to the list. I love that. I I also I'm so glad you brought up, and I'm sorry, Xavier, my legs seem rolling you.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, good.

SPEAKER_03

I um I wanted to talk about your the film and the photography because the photography is incredible. And also, I really want to say I literally told all my friends about this when I saw that you were doing a seven-hour like slot of time for people to come get like headshots and like any sort of foot photographs done or whatever. I was like, that is so generous, like so generous with your time. And that's why I was like, again, I I was already such a fan. And then I literally was like walking around with my phone, like, do you guys see this? Seven hours like for people could to pull up whenever, like, so that it's like it was just such a beautiful thing, um, like a community thing, and just also because you are so incredibly talented. I was just like, this is such a nice, this is just such a nice for for people, like your your photography, especially the one you recently posted with like the fish eye. So cool, so beautiful. And like thank you. That was amazing. I was like, damn, that's like cool as fuck. Like seven hours, that's a long day. And like that's a beautiful thing that you did. So, first of all, props for that. And also, like, so photography, film like how does that enter your life? Because obviously that's huge alongside of wrestling and everything, and you're also extremely good at it because I was really creeping on a lot of stuff today.

SPEAKER_00

So that's fair, that's fair. Um, so photography that came into the picture because I I did a random music video in like 2021. Like, I'm talking like just it was like a three-person crew, and the person who was shooting it, um, the cinematographer, he used to be an assistant for like another photographer, right? And then so it's like his name is John Abbott, and he put me in contact with him, and so it's like I started working uh with with John, and it's like I am like his like lighting technician slash like photo assistant, so I like light a lot of a lot of his work, and it and he's like one of like the the biggest photographers in like the jazz community.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, oh, I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, um, so it's like over time I was just working a bunch with him, and I was just like asking him more questions, learning his process, and I never had like the dream of being a photographer, but as I was working with him, I kind of fell in love with just like just everything, like every aspect of it, just like setting up, going into like a different location every time, and um and just like because it's another way of connecting with people, you know, because it's like that's really and that's like the the connection between photography and interviewing, where it's like you have to make people feel comfortable in front of the camera, and you have to make people like you know, like be okay with being themselves, and it's like that is what really drew me to photography. So it's like I I work with uh John for a couple years, and then I'm just like cool, I think I can do this. Um, so I started planning something in May, and I did two days back to back of similar like days in terms of just like here, I have like this seven-hour time slot, right? Wow. The first day I had just like friends from film pull up, and it was really my day to like practice. I was just like, Yeah, let me take pictures of you, let me like try to figure this out. And then the following day, I had like a bunch of wrestlers pull up. So it's like, and it was like I didn't spend too much time figuring out like if I can do it. I was just like, I'ma just see if I can. Um, and I understand, like like once again, with when it came to like the interview things, like I can make it look good. I can like light this and yeah, and like and the camera, like I I don't even have like a photography camera. I use my production camera to shoot the pictures.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. Um that's cool.

SPEAKER_00

Uh yeah, like I on I record RingVit with uh Sony FX30s.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And like, and I also take my portraits with the Sony FX30, which is not like a photography camera, uh, but it's like I understand like F-stop, shutter speed, and ISO, so and I can make it light, and I can light it. So it's like, okay, I can make them look decent. Um and yeah, like my my goal with take like having these like shoot-in-in-behindness pop-up events, it's really kind of creating an environment and a setting where people can one, come get good pictures, and two kind of network with people from other schools, other promotions, and other aspects of wrestling. So if it's like podcasters, um, you know, graphic artists, referees, announcers, belt uh designers, and just kind of gather a bunch of people, put them in one room, and just let them just kind of ask questions that they are interested in or advice that they want. And it's like, you know, because it's people tend to only be able to do that at shows, you know? Yeah. And it's like some people, if they're not booked, where it's like, well, they're not getting that kind of exposure to certain talents. So I was just like, cool, let me just try to help, like it's really just like trying to help indie wrestling in whatever way that I can.

SPEAKER_01

I love it because it's very it's putting the community in the room, uh, outside of like these, like because independent wrestling's so like it's so spread out. Like, yeah, there are like hot spots, but like wrestlers have to go far and wide generally. So like if you can kind of congregate beat like that group as many times as like possible, um, it's it's only gonna result in like positive things. Like, um, so I have a question about the photo shoot also. In that, like did does anybody like stick out that like really like uh had an idea for like a photo shoot that was like, oh, this is going to be like who I who I am, and that really like still stands out in your mind as like somebody that like came prepared like with uh with an idea or something that's just kind of memorable that like you fell into because sometimes you some people don't know when they walk into a photo shoot.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Okay. First of all, I like your nails, Xavier. Thank you. And I will I will I would say this. Um the reason why I did like the fish eye look and then like the black and gray is because of something that Brian Baum said. Love that guy.

SPEAKER_03

Love Brian Baum.

SPEAKER_00

That's great. I love that bitch.

SPEAKER_03

My Maybelline twin. Hey girl, hey Brian.

SPEAKER_00

Um when he came to the studio to do Ringville, right? I had like my laptop there and I was showing him like the portraits that I took up previously of other wrestlers, and he says something to me where it was just like, hey, like these are nice, right? Um, but a lot of people are doing like just like the backdrop look. It's either a white or a gray or whatever, or you know, whatever color. And it's like that kind of stuck with me because if he feels that way, I'm sure that other people feel in wrestling feel that way too. So it's like, cool. How can I grab, how can I get like the promo pictures, but also include something far more creative that it's like maybe not everyone is doing. So in that like same day of where it's like people are getting the promos, I'm just like, okay, cool. I have this other camera with the other lens. We're gonna, we're just gonna try to do something. And I think Dolly Darko, like when she saw like the fish eye look, she kind of had this idea of just like, oh, I know what I want. And it's like she's like the first picture I post, uh, like in that like dump of just like and with like her hands like this. Because it's like so amazing. Yeah, so it's like she was someone who was like, Oh, once she saw that kind of creative look that I was going for, she knew exactly like what to do to make the pictures pop.

SPEAKER_03

And she's such a queen, I mean, yeah, yeah. But wow, so this is great because I feel in safe company because then you are a lighting king, like you you are all about the lighting. So at times, meaning what?

SPEAKER_00

Oh that uh I don't know. I think you just want to be a horrible comedy.

SPEAKER_03

I'm like meaning what? What the what does that mean? You're in or you're out blood in and blood out of the lighting game. What do you mean? Um so like I'm saying, like in your home, I'm assuming because even like here, you have you came in with your little aesthetic lighting. We got the ring vill on the back, like it just feels your your lighting punch.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, like I like I just found to the to kind of gravitate towards different looks or even lighting. Like um, I I do this thing where when I wake up, I just go outside and I photosynthesize, I just let the sun hit me.

SPEAKER_03

I love that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I'm just I'm just a little plant, you know?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we are we're all just a little bit more complicated than house plants.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Um so and then it's like also it's like how do I like make my place cozy? Or it's like with lighting, you know, it's like set a mood, dah dah dah. And it's yeah, because I just that's just what I do, one of the things I do in film. So like I've I've really studied lighting colors and just figured out like how to get certain looks, how to get certain styles. And yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Wow. And what I'm just curious too, like what where like where how do I even explain this? I want to ask, like, where do you see like Ringville going, or like where do you want Ringville to go? But it's like first of all, it's already going. So I'm it's not like this is you know what I mean? It's like already got its thing, so it feels like a kind of um like silly question, but it's just like the brand of Ringville and like even you and just like you as a presence in independent wrestling. Like, how do you see like this community that you've started like moving forward, or like do you have different plans for like different sorts of interviews? Because I know you also which I love that video you posted on Instagram when you were in Texas and you were just like in the desert with the uh the whatever the method detector? Yes, thank you. I just like can't think of any vocabulary words today, but um like that. Thank you, thank you, and I literally have an English degree, it's horrible. Um, but like I should not have gotten it, I guess. But I like in terms of that creativity, and now that you are in front of the camera and you have that eye and you're trying to like play with certain things, like what what do you want to do? Do you have thoughts about where you want to go, like in terms of expanding or just any sort of like motion?

SPEAKER_00

I mean, right now it's I'm I'm just trying to do stuff that I find interesting and cool. Like um uh this past November, I ran the production uh for Fuego Lucha. So I had three cameras, and I was like, I recorded the whole show.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_00

And it's like I did that for two other companies as well, and it's like, and um, and then it's like I kind of edit the show, put it together, right? Um, so I'm really just trying to figure out like what it is I like I like and what I don't like, you know. It's like uh even though I do everything and for like Ringville, I despise editing.

SPEAKER_03

I understand, I get this boy a team.

SPEAKER_01

It's also my like part of my like day job. So I'm really in it. So like okay, yeah. This is yeah, so some days I'll be like, um, because I work on other uh podcasts and things.

SPEAKER_03

Uh so some days I'll be like, I'll get to the like where the point where it's like in the day where I need to start working on my stuff, and I'm like, okay, yeah, editing our show is like leisure activity for him, but it's which is crazy, or it's bamboo splinters under the fingernails. What a sin.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, so it's like, yeah, I'm very much figuring out like stuff that I want to do with like uh when you brought up the Texas video, like um, I for sure want to take Ringville to like other states and other places, you know? And uh guy, I try to drop videos like that before beforehand, so to kind of like announce where I'm going. Um it's it's something where it's like it's just kind of creative and fun for me to do. And it's like if I'm able to do it, it's like why why not? Um, and it also kind of creates a little bit of not buzz, but it kind of gets people talking, like, oh hold up, I'm gonna be there. And then people start reaching out to me. So it's like it kind of does the work for me instead of me looking for wrestlers, like they start reaching out to me, which is like which is nice, yeah, especially as you're doing everything else.

SPEAKER_03

Like you guys can come to me.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, yes, please. Um, and then um, like the the actual Ringville brand of like of course I do want to start at some point doing interviews in a ring. Nice.

SPEAKER_02

Like I think that would hell yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Like I think that'll be super fire. And like, you know, it's like once I feel more comfortable and ready, like I'll do some episodes live. You know, it's like it's it's kind of seeing what's working for other people, and then maybe taking a little bit from you know other areas and then just kind of applying that. But yeah, I also want to do a lot more creative work and photography, you know, it's like um like but keep keep doing the promo shoots uh but also then just do more more creative stuff. And I have some ideas that I I'm excited to do this year.

SPEAKER_03

Good, I love that. And I also oh, so go ahead. No, go ahead. I was gonna say because also I'm trying to be respectful of your time and because I know you have other things going on, but I need to know about the tooth gems mostly selfishly, personally. I know you don't have them anymore. I'm devastated. Um, but I need to know everything.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, so the tooth gem happened, it was very much in the moment. I was working on I was working on a feature in October.

SPEAKER_03

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

So it was like a three and a half week project, and uh a script supervisor, which is another person, like a person who works on a film set too, she had one and it fell in the middle of like breakfast. And she was like, guys, I almost like ate my tooth jam, dah dah da. And we all just started talking about it, and she was like, I'm gonna bring my kit tomorrow. And I'm I'm just like, are you? Yeah, it was like exactly Plato's nick, you know, planet. Um, so the the following day she brings it, and she's she has like this just collection of tooth gems, and it's like whoa, like there's so many, and I just like start looking through which one I want. And the one I grabbed was just like a heart-shaped one, and it was like bigger than all the other ones, but I was just like, just the one, put that thing on, you know? So good, yeah. So I just had it for like two and a half weeks, probably a little long, like close to three weeks. Um, like I it got to the point where I finished that like three-week project, and I was just going on with my regular life as a tooth chem girly. Yeah, uh exactly, exactly. So um I enjoyed the the tooth chem for sure. I didn't it was a little too big in terms of I felt this, so it felt like having braces again or just one. One brace, um but mate, one brace, one brace, you know. Um so good. So um, so maybe I'll get another one, but maybe a little smaller.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, cool. Okay, guys, drop in the comments if you want to see me and Kevin get matching tooth gems.

SPEAKER_02

That's amazing.

SPEAKER_03

I'm gonna be like hungering Bill.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, guys.

SPEAKER_03

If you want us to live stream us doing tooth gems, we've gone off the rails.

SPEAKER_01

I know.

SPEAKER_03

Because we were but we were talking about because it's funny, Xavier and I just talked yesterday about like, because we don't ever do anything live either. Because first of all, again, we gotta fix it in post. We can be really if you think our show is gross, you should hear us in the Unplugged version. So, like we just we were like, I don't know about doing live, especially because if live reactions and stuff, like I really am like loud and and abrasive sometimes when we watch. And I'm so live is always something we like think about dabbling into, but not. But hey, if our first foray is just us getting tooth gems, let us know if you guys want to see that. But that's just me. That's just me, whatever. But I saw I was like, I saw that and I was like, well, I have to know everything about this because I want a tooth gem just for no reason. My mom, so my mom can have a heart attack, but right, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Uh the question I got the most when people like who didn't know I had a tooth gem would uh see me for the first time was is that permanent? It's not permanent.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, drill the little hole. Like I actually put it on every morning, like my shoes, thank you.

SPEAKER_00

Actually, the tooth come with it. I'm actually not gonna toothpick.

SPEAKER_03

I clip it right in. I love that. Oh my god. I feel like I had a hundred thousand more questions for you, Xavier. Oh, I got you.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Um, so uh, you know, as we know, uh Kelsey is new to wrestling. That is the whole premise of our show. But um, we always like to have our guests kind of continue the education. Um, is there a match that like off the top of your head that you would show like a non-wrestling like fan? And or just one that you go back to and watch a lot. Because we will watch it and we'll discuss it in a at a later at a later time.

SPEAKER_00

And then right, you'll be like, This is what he said.

unknown

I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_03

I direct I directly call you and I'm like, come pick me up. This shit sucks.

SPEAKER_00

No more tooth gem. I'm out of here.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm out of here. Cancelled. Our live due to due to unforeseen circumstances, our tooth live tooth gem is canceled.

SPEAKER_00

Um uh, I think I'm gonna answer this as if you asked the question, what match do I re-watch the most?

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_00

Um, and that is the young the young bucks versus Kenny Omega and Hangbang Page at Revolution 2020.

SPEAKER_03

I gotta see that.

SPEAKER_00

That is probably has jumped up to like my favorite match. It it's that one, and then Bailey and Sasha take over Brooklyn. Like, I feel like like it depends on the day, they can flip between one and two. But like those, those two, I would say those two matches. Um uh just because like I think um oftentimes people just think tag team wrestling is just like eh, you know, and it's like I think that's something because sometimes the Fed makes it seem like tag team wrestling is like, oh, we have to pay two extra people for the same match, like we don't want that, so um, like super whack. So it's like, yeah, that's like I think some like tag team wrestling like at its best, you know, and then like Sasha and like Bailey. That's I love Bailey. That's just wrestling, like not even just like women's wrestling, just wrestling, like at its like highest possible caliber, where it's like, oh hold up, this makes me feel something every single time I watch it. And it's like regardless if I know who's winning, I'm I'm I'm popping for the kick outs. It's like oh shit, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Oh my god, I love that. I love a good kick out, just like my favorite, right? My favorite. Go ahead, Xavier.

SPEAKER_01

No, I was gonna say, um, so we're we all work in you know the independent wrestling kind of like sphere. Is there somebody um that you haven't got yet that you're like would love to interview? I have why we have our list, I'm sure we could also um share. We have a couple.

SPEAKER_03

I have one, yeah, off the top of my head.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, for um let's see, let's see. Okay, I'll I'll give you two names, right? Okay, two names, one that I hope I hope happens soon, and then one that is just like I'm gonna just throw out there. Um the first one is Jenai Kai.

SPEAKER_03

Her I would love that. Hell yeah. That's a good one.

SPEAKER_00

She just really looks like she can just fuck you up in real life, right? And she can, I think. Like she certainly can martial arts background. Um like a for sure one. This oh, the second one, you know what? Like, I would say he just appeared on Ring of Honor, Charles Mason.

SPEAKER_01

He's an interesting cat, that one.

SPEAKER_00

He seems yeah, yeah, it seems like a fun time.

SPEAKER_01

I love that his um theme song is a Shania Twain like cover. It kills me. It's so good. It's like this like creepy like Shania Twain cover. I'm like, this dude is insane.

SPEAKER_00

It's a banger though. Oh, it's fantastic. Right. And I feel like he can make me cry in person.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, just for big, like I like because I've seen other like interviews and stuff with where he's like, it's just like oh, he just makes everyone feel like so awkward on purpose. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like watching The Office for the first time.

SPEAKER_03

Or like between two trees, between two ferns, between two ferns, yeah. Iconic.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's fantastic. Kelsey, go ahead, what's yours?

SPEAKER_03

I this is a person who I recently told was on my bucket list, and I was like, but I'm not ready yet. Um, like I'm not even close to prepared for what kind of conversations would be, and I don't think it would ever happen anyway. But Grim Reefer. He scares me to death, but only because he's so cool. And I'm like, I just don't think I'm cool enough yet. Like, I think I have to get like cool up. I have to get, I don't know, like maybe get more tattoos or something. I don't know. Like, I'm just like, I'm not cool enough to talk to him yet. And like I just I have this weird, oh, I just got goosebums. I have this like weird, like, I love watching him, and I just think he's interesting, and he's like helped so many people, so many like independent wrestlers come up. And right I just think he's such a cool dude, but he's like such a godfather. I'm like, I am not, I can't talk to him yet. Like, Grim Reaper, if you ever see this, I love you so much. Don't call me yet. Maybe maybe like a year from now when I get my swag up or something, but not yet. But he's one who's for sure on my list.

SPEAKER_01

That's become like a new year's resolution. Get swag up so I can talk to Grim Reaper.

SPEAKER_03

And if Grim and Grim Reefer, if you're listening to this and you have advice for me to get my swag up to talk to you, please let me know.

SPEAKER_02

Oh no, I'm working on it.

SPEAKER_03

I'm working on it, and you'll be the first person to know if it happens.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, absolutely. You'll be tagged.

SPEAKER_03

Um con no caption just at KHS at Rickville.

SPEAKER_01

So good.

SPEAKER_03

Ringville made me do it.

SPEAKER_01

One for me that comes up or that has been coming up a lot. Um, I think is Gabby Forza. I would love to talk to her. Um, she's just like absolutely killing it. And she's recently had some like um like the Lodestone like experience. Um, Natalia reached out and invited her to the dungeon. Like, I that's a brain I want to pick. I just feel like um, especially because like in the last like I want to say, even like six months, her stock has just gone like through the roof, she's killing it.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, absolutely.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, love Gabby Forza. Love that. I love that and then I the homie, yeah. The homie, yeah. Period. I love that. I wait, I also because you said, and I need to know your opinion on this, and then I guess we could wrap, even though I don't want to ever. Um, is that is so you your first exposure to wrestling was John Cena.

SPEAKER_00

Are you doing okay?

SPEAKER_03

How are you feeling?

SPEAKER_00

Um I'm okay. Like um, you know, you know, you know what, you know what made me okay? That he smiled when he tapped.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, heard people were like really on the fence about this, like really on the fence. But I he also saw him explain it on um like Cody Rhodes's podcast, like the day after it happened. Yeah, um, and uh he was like, I let go, like I I peacefully let go. Right.

SPEAKER_03

I was like, all right, you know what radical acceptance, exactly, absolutely, yeah. Yeah, I love that. Yeah, we uh we all yeah for sure because we were talking about this, like you know, we know wrestlers go out on their back. I'm still new to wrestling. I we haven't gotten to the John Cena era in the regular show yet, so I know like literally nothing about him except you know what you know. But so I was like, Well, to me, my preliminary understanding of wrestling is you just go out on your back, so I wasn't like expecting anything else.

SPEAKER_01

So then when the riots were happening, I was like, maybe I misunderstood what he that video of like Gunther getting like securitied out of the stadium. I was like, I love it, I love to see it. And since he's been like absolutely killing it, I was like, um, because if John Cena is gonna do that for you, you better take it and run, you know?

SPEAKER_00

For sure, for sure. Exactly, exactly. And he has.

SPEAKER_01

Um, uh, I have final question um for you, or at least I my last one. Um so how do you view um like a how do you view success as far as telling like a wrestling story? Is it like the fact that you have the platform to do it? Like how do you know like you when do you leave an interview and been like I did I felt like that we did what we came to do?

SPEAKER_00

I would say it it depends on the person that I'm talking to. Um, because some people are much more character-based, right? Um, and especially like um if somebody wants to do the interview in character, I I try to structure my questions in that way. Um like the non-seen part of what I deem successful is were they comfortable? Were they satisfied with the conversation that they had, right? And it's like, are they okay with the way they're presented on the show? Like that's just like basis for them. Um if I considered success on my end for just like my performances, like how how was the conversation flowing? And how is it kind of like going from one topic to another? Was it just like a start-stop, or were we just like, oh, actually, let's uh, you know, I tie that into another answer or another question type sorts. Um and it's really just like um I can always go back on like right when I like yell like cut, right? Or like or say goodbye, when I get up and I go to cut the cameras, I ask, how how did that feel for you? And it's like that response is just like whatever they say is like okay, cool. Like that's how I term that's how I determine, like, okay, this this went, oh that's a good question.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I have one final question just before we close. So you were saying you were prepping all day with questions you thought we might ask you.

unknown

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Did we what did we were were some of the questions? Did we hit any of them? Did we miss anyone?

SPEAKER_00

Oh, for sure, for sure, for sure. You you hit you hit you hit a bunch. Um, I think if if both of our times were unlimited, yeah, you would hit every single question. You know, it's like a little selfish of me, so I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

Uh that's okay. No. He's he's booked in busy, guys. He's booked in busy.

SPEAKER_00

Sometimes, sometimes. Uh, but yeah, no, it's like uh I th uh I think one of the questions that I thought about was I I always think about like what's to like if you people were gonna make the connection between Rim Ring Vou and Dreamville, right? So it's like I I was expecting maybe like a music question and I was just kind of going through all the music that I I've listened to, and it's like, what do I like? You know, I should make a movie, what movie do you like, and it's like I've never seen a movie. I don't know.

SPEAKER_03

No, I've never heard a song ever in my life. I've never listened to music. Oh my god, it's so funny. I like knew the the Dreamville connection, but I didn't want to want to be like like really in your business about it.

SPEAKER_00

But what's uh like oh name your top five songs right now. Yeah, right. Hold on, hold on.

SPEAKER_03

Actually, recite all the lyrics to your favorite uh JID song, like right now, immediately so but uh maybe next time you can prepare for next time. Because hopefully there will be a next time. Um I never want this to end, and I hope we do it again because this is just the best, the collab of the century for me. I don't care about how the rest of you feel, but I I feel great about it. I hope we can talk again more at length. I hope we can talk again more, even just generally. Um, I hope we see what a show one time because every time I'm like, where is the S coming?

SPEAKER_00

You know what? It's like wrestling and film are like a weekend business, yeah, or industries. So it's like sometimes my like projects or my jobs line up on a day of just like, oh, it's the same day as a wrestling show, yeah. And I'm just like, oh, I can't, and it's like, look, no disrespect to wrestling, but I gotta pay my bills.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, be careful.

SPEAKER_00

Absolutely, girl, uh yeah. There was uh oh, the last ETU show in December. Uh uh like the show was started at like four or five and it ended like at eight. I had like an overnight shoot in Jersey, so I just went from the show to the job. So I was just like, okay, I can work that.

SPEAKER_03

Like, oh my god, girl booked in busy. He said it. Y'all hear it. Sometimes, and also if you ever, you know, need a place to crash in New Jersey, this is like the halfway house for everybody who needs to do work in New Jersey. We got futons, couches, like oh, the couches are great.

SPEAKER_01

I can vouch for that. Yeah, okay. And if you're ever in in Philly, you let me know.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. And if you're ever in Philly, you can go stay with my brother in Christ there.

SPEAKER_00

Uh oh, yeah. This is so I just don't teleport.

SPEAKER_03

I see, like well, listen, if you want to do it, I mean you can show us how because I would love to do that because uh speaking of paying bills, I gotta pay for gas every time I go see Mr. Man over there every time I let this man in my house.

SPEAKER_00

It's crazy, and yeah, but I drive to Philly's nice. I've done it a few times.

SPEAKER_03

I actually love it too.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, no, it's it's really not bad. What's that bridge that you just crossed like right before you get into like Philly?

SPEAKER_03

I love that bridge, the like old medley bridge one, and then when you get it across welcome to Philly, yeah, yeah, yeah. Or welcome to Pennsylvania.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I love coming back and then because I am there's the Ben Franklin, that's the big old one.

SPEAKER_03

Is it? Oh, that's cute that you know that.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I live here now.

SPEAKER_03

Now I don't I don't know some of the bridges in New Jersey and not born and raised here, but I love crossing that bridge because then it says like welcome to Philly and it's the little Dutch lady or whatever on the Apple maps, and then when you come back, I always go, Where's my diner girl? Because then the the diner girl from New Jersey pops up and I'll be like, Hello. Okay, and the other day it was late and I was pissed, but I was like, Where's my diner girl?

SPEAKER_00

She was servant, she was servant, you know.

SPEAKER_03

She was busy, she had tables, it's not her problem. It's not gonna tip her 20%. She's doing her best.

SPEAKER_01

Amazing. Exactly. Shout out to Bridges, shout out to Bridges, amen.

SPEAKER_03

Shout out to Bridges, guys, build bridges, not walls. You know what I mean? It's all about community. Speaking of which, community, come on, good community, you guys.

SPEAKER_01

I'm so excited.

SPEAKER_03

What the show? Also the show.

SPEAKER_00

I was like, hold up.

SPEAKER_03

He's like, wait, okay.

SPEAKER_00

Top five favorite community episodes.

SPEAKER_03

Like, what's your favorite thing in community? We're like hour two community rewatch. Let's go.

SPEAKER_00

Um that's the other live stream idea.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, period. You bitches would hate community. You would hate to see us coming with a tiny fuzzy mic attached to my phone watching community. And who knows? It's gonna be a big year, it might happen. Um, but speaking of big things happening, I'm so excited. We are officially doing the coat drive noodle wrestling with Dolly Moo, which, if you don't know, is my day job. It's also my family's business. It's the best. It's in Montclair. Come drop off your coats, your blankets, your scarves, your winter hats, your gloves, warm clothes. Um, we are doing a coat drive all month long to benefit Tony's kitchen in Montclair. Tony's Kitchen is the shit. Sorry to curse, but Tony's Kitchen is the shit. I love him very deeply. It's a great small community organization. And it's been a really cold winter, and there's still a lot of winter left. So if you have gently used or even new winter apparel, please bring them to 217 Glen Ridge Ave, the Dolly Moose store, where we will collect them and probably give you a big kiss on the mouth if you consent.

SPEAKER_01

So that's the bug.

SPEAKER_03

And that's the bug. I'm so excited, girl. Warm your friends up, warm it up.

SPEAKER_01

Amazing. All right, guys. This has been another edition of the New to Wrestling Podcast. Thank you so much for our guest, Kevin Herrera Sanchez of Ringville, um, coming and chatting with us. Uh for Kevin, for Kelsey, I am Xavier. We will catch you on the next one.

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We'll see you there. Bye.