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Stone Cold Wanted His Revenge IMMEDIATELY | Raw Is War Fallout After King of the Ring 1998
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How do you follow King of the Ring 1998?
Apparently… with absolute chaos.
This week, we’re diving into the fallout episode of Raw Is War after one of the most infamous nights in wrestling history—and somehow, the energy is immediately unhinged.
Stone Cold Steve Austin is NOT interested in letting Kane enjoy his new championship moment for even a full business day and demands his rematch immediately.
Honestly? Respect.
Elsewhere:
🔥 Vince McMahon throws himself a full championship coronation party
🔥 Kane’s “I’m better than my brother” era begins
🔥 Undertaker continues being terrifying but somehow emotionally complicated?
🔥 Ken Shamrock, Owen Hart, and Triple H put on an absolute banger
🔥 The Brawl for All begins…and we immediately have questions
🔥 Edge continues his weird little gargoyle phase
🔥 Val Venis remains deeply committed to being… Val Venis
And somehow, after all that?
Stone Cold gets his title back in under 24 hours.
This episode is messy. Weird. Surprisingly great in spots. And exactly the kind of post-pay-per-view nonsense that makes Attitude Era Raw such a blast to revisit.
If you like:
✔ wrestling chaos
✔ instant revenge
✔ family trauma presented as storyline entertainment
✔ Kelsey’s ongoing hatred of Paul Bearer
…this one’s for you.
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Hello, everyone, and welcome to another edition of the New to Wrestling Podcast. This week we watched the June 29th, 19 1998 edition of Raw Is War. And boys, we are dealing boys and gals and days, whatever you, whatever, whoever. Whatever you are.
SPEAKER_00Anytime we say any like girl, boy, blob, like they that's.
SPEAKER_03Oh, gender means nothing to me. I assign all genders to everything at all times.
SPEAKER_00But if you know all y'all are my girls, y'all are my girls, regardless. I don't care what you identify as. Girl is a non-gendered word for me.
SPEAKER_03So period. Um king of the ring, fall out. So we love a um uh a Monday night raw after uh a pay-per-view because it is just a hot, hot, hot mess of it was a hot, hot mess. What what are we doing? Where are we? But also some highlights, some good, some good things.
SPEAKER_00There were some good and some extremely strange I didn't understand what we were doing.
SPEAKER_03And and I think we're gonna be on that ride for a little bit, but I'm thinking yeah, no, 100%. Um, but um some housekeeping, I guess, before we get into the episode. Um, if you we are past Mother's Day at this point by the time this episode comes out. So if you took the time to donate, thank you so much.
SPEAKER_00Thank you, thank you.
SPEAKER_03Um, we appreciate it. We appreciate um you guys allowing um our little platform to do some good in the world because Lord knows we need a little bit of good in the world, and it is like so it's honestly at this point.
SPEAKER_00I know we're giving, but it makes it feel selfish because it makes me feel so good. Like every time we get a diaper donation, I'm like, we did really no 100%.
SPEAKER_03I love that.
SPEAKER_00That's so for me. Every time it's like, really?
SPEAKER_03Wow, that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_00So, and that that's nice, absolutely beautiful.
SPEAKER_03So, thank you, thank you, thank you. Um, okay, let's just get into it. Let's just see see what there is to see. Yes, um, this episode opens up with a picture recap, as is typical of like 90s pay-per-view um situations before the days where everything was immediately put into clips online. Um you could actually get away with replaying the pay-per-view um at a later weekend uh just for the just just because you can because people missed it and they can catch it again. Yeah. Um and there was nowhere else to get it. Lord knows at this point I'd be catching wrestling pay-per-views as they're coming online.
SPEAKER_00So I've seen the whole pay-per-view and clips alone, I feel like right.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. And listen, do I love that for me as a wrestling fan? Yes, because um there's so much wrestling I couldn't possibly pay for it all. Um, I'm seeing I do my best. Amen. I support where literally this is where all my extra money goes.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, and yeah.
SPEAKER_03So we support where we can have, but God bless.
SPEAKER_00And honestly, the WWE, well, I don't know. With all these cuts and shit, I don't think they need my money, but with all these payroll cuts and stuff.
SPEAKER_03Oh my god, they're going crazy. Really?
SPEAKER_00I don't know do they need my money.
SPEAKER_03The fallout of this is gonna be weird. Also, it just like looks weird because it's just like I don't know, it just like makes you look like a bad like business maker, deal maker situation. I don't know. It just like it's just like, ooh, you're gonna let people that have been here for for a bajillion years go, even though they make a butt ton of money in like um merchandise, and also Xavier Woods' like YouTube channels like was imperative to the marketing strategy of their last like five game rollouts. But it's no worries, it's fine.
SPEAKER_00No worries. Yeah, it's it's time to get funky. That's what it means. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_03So we get the so we get the picture recap. It's the first blood match, it's the hell in a cell, the mankind falling to his doom multiple times of it all. Uh, and the big uh headline to snatch um outside of the hell in a cell, which in and of itself, you know, lives in infamy. Um, but Kane is our new WWF champion as of yesterday. So the episode opens up with Vince and his posse. The ring is decked out in like a red carpet situation. Um, Sergeant Slaughter is one of the girlies today. I guess Pat had had the night off. Um, the WWF title is Encased in Glass. This is so ridiculous. This is so OD. Um, basically, Vince goes, I what a great day we are all having. Um, because we got to cleanse the WWF of Stone Cold Steve Austin, um, thus introducing Kane. Um, and then Vince McMahon asks the craziest question to Paul Bear and Kane I've ever like you could ever pose to those two. Um, and he's just like, What is your heart feeling? And from that point, my brain took off because um I'll give you the just the basically, I'll give you the Paul Bear promo in vibes. Um, basically, we start with like he's like, a dream is a wish your heart makes. He's just like, this is just everything that Kane ever wanted. Like, this is what a moment to finally step out of the shadow of the undertake, like all these great things.
SPEAKER_00It's Kate Middleton having a poster of Prince William on her bedroom wall.
SPEAKER_031000%. And then, and then, and then it's and then we we take uh a left into walk a mile into in Kane's bouquetons because we will never understand the hardship that he went through as a child for 20 years. He done had himself a Helga from Hey Arnold shrine to the Undertaker, just hoping that he will one day be the champion, just like his older brother. And all the while, listen, all the while that this is happening, Paul Bear is on the road with the Undertaker, and he is simultaneously going back home and telling Kane that he can be better than the like he's brainwashing Kane into being like, No, you can be a better version of the and this is what bothers me about it, and this is what we are not fucking talking about, is that he's saying he was doing this for the past 20 years, and he was with the Undertaker Wrestling for eight years, right?
SPEAKER_00Like, so as in he was a double agent, Benedict Arnold motherfucker this whole goddamn time, yes, and we're all like, Well, you know, I just feel like we we are not holding him to the coals the way that we should be. This man is a two-timing freak, nasty weirdo who was literally with that magic urn going to the ring with Undertaker, making a freaking spectacle of each other, yeah. Only to go home and be like, Yes, yes, my son, which I still will not believe. I am basically buried the king Lawler with his son.
SPEAKER_03No, just absolute refusal. No, I'm denied.
SPEAKER_00I don't like it. Um, but yeah, what a fucking sorry, I'm really, I just he pisses me off so bad anyway.
SPEAKER_03No, 100%. So he goes and says that uh Kane is no longer standing in the shadow of his brother. He has now um like eclipsed him. Um and then we get what is going to be the coronation of Kane as the WWF champion when Stone Cold Steve Austin interrupts, the place goes absolutely buckwild, because of course it does. Um he runs to the ring, grabs the microphone, and is like, eh, Kane did not bust me open. Um, I don't know if you heard the rules of the match. It was the first one to draw blood from the other, and Kane did not do that. Was I busted open? Absolutely, but it was it was your brother who did it. So I am demanding a rematch this evening, and I love to see it. I love it.
SPEAKER_00Love to see it. Also, I feel like if we do a first blood match again, we need to do like an outfit mandate. Like, how many articles of clothing are you allowed to wear? Because I'm sorry, like Stone Cold is wearing a bikini bottom, right? And Kane is dressed in literally full-length sleeves and a mask.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, he's he like absolutely not. Where are you gonna draw?
SPEAKER_00It's like again, it's like what is that saying? Like draw trying to draw blood from a stone or something. That's a little bit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, no, absolutely. Um, but then uh Austin turns in on Vince McMahon and he's like, get that stupid look off your face and be somebody, basically being like, Are you gonna make this match or what? And I love that. That was beautiful.
SPEAKER_00I said I need to make that my alarm clock. No, absolutely that look off your face and go be somebody.
SPEAKER_03I was like, my new phone screensaver. Let's go.
SPEAKER_00I'm like, I'm doing my best.
SPEAKER_03All right, you're talking to me. Fuck. Um, Austin then asked the crowd, um, obviously, with a resounding hell yes. And then Vince uh decides to just pussyfoot around the issue, pass the buck. He goes, It's fine by me. Um, but you should ask Paul.
SPEAKER_00Um, and then Paul He said, I'll sanction it if Paul Bear says it's okay.
SPEAKER_03No, 100%. And then Austin Bitch, what? Sorry. Crazy. Now Paul's got the power. Like, oh, my bad. I thought, is it Paul at the bottom signing everybody's checks? Like, I'm confused. What's going on here? Um, but then he goes, Um Austin prompts uh Paul. He's like, what about it, fat ass? Um, unnecessary, but he really was on him for it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Um, and then I hate Paul Bear for who he is inside, right? Not what he looks like. Like, is he my favorite person to look at? No, but I hate him for who he is.
SPEAKER_03Right, absolutely. It's deeper.
SPEAKER_00You're not fat because I hate you. It's deeper than you're I don't hate you because you're fat, you're fat because I hate you.
SPEAKER_03Um, that's crazy. Uh the Undertaker at Paul. Um and then um they like all like converge, and JR in commentary goes, What a caucus that is. And you're just me at the state of affairs today.
SPEAKER_00Um you actually you will recreationally use the word caucus. I've heard it in out in the wild. I just oh, it's just good.
SPEAKER_03I don't know. It's a great word. Um, and then Stone Cold, not one to miss a beat, grabs the microphone again, and he's just like, Um, you wanted to be like your brother. Is that what I was hearing? Like, um, and you're just gonna live with yourself with your brother, just having won that title for you and then gave it to you? Are you serious? Like, that's what you're gonna do. Like, you then erected a shrine to this man. I'm gonna be better than my brother, and then you're just gonna let him do it for you? We can't read. Um and then, yeah, so the cane gives us thank god he didn't pull out the buzzer at this current moment. Um, because it was just unnecessary. He just gives us a nod, he just hits hits us with the nod. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00God bless him. He did it really exaggerated for the people in the back.
SPEAKER_03He was literally like 100. Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, the nosebleeds understood. Um, okay, and then that takes us into our first contest, which is Darren Drosdoth, aka puke, taking on the debuting Steven Regal. Okay. Um, thoughts, initial thoughts, because it's the debut.
SPEAKER_00But he's known by people in so he's coming from WCW.
SPEAKER_03Um he is very like well respected. He actually um gets fired from WCW because they ask him to essentially put on a match with Goldberg, and then he basically actually puts on a match with Goldberg, and nobody at that point did anything with Goldberg except get speared by him, jackhammered, and pinned. So he gets fired from the WCW and then signed um by the WWF here.
SPEAKER_00Okay, we I feel like we talked about this briefly, yes. Yes. Um, I hate the robe. That's oh yeah, that's oh my god.
SPEAKER_03Oh sorry, it's it's but I'm not going anywhere.
SPEAKER_00It's not okay. Well, but is there a little better? Is there a William Regal? Yes. Okay, because I'm like, that's who I keep thinking it's the same person.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_00Okay, because I'm like, that's who I keep thinking of is William Regal.
SPEAKER_02Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, it is one and the same.
SPEAKER_00Um I know that William Regal, I've seen some things about how he is beloved, I feel. I really don't have much of an impression, like he didn't leave much of an impression for me. Hurt at the same time.
SPEAKER_03It's very fair, but that's honestly not um because of him, but that is because um Sable is the special uh ring announcer for um Steven Regal. Yeah, this was fucked up actually. And then Sable come first of all, Sable comes out in a like a new bodysuit, but like think the last bodysuit, like that metallic situation, but plus buckles, and like cut out in the front, like down to the belly button, which I do love, and the buckles were beautifully done.
SPEAKER_00I thought it was very beautiful.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, she looks great, and her hair was amazing. Um, but Vince, it is they're making a big deal that Vince had like signed him, that's why he sent Sable. Um, and then Sable joins commentary, and this is why it was so hard to really like focus on um the debut of Steven Regal because I half the match was in a split screen with commentary of Sable, Jr. and Jerry. And Jerry is practically just you know, he's just doing what Jerry does. Yeah, and it's just like so tough to listen to. I know, I know, I know, guys, but like, oh, it's so tough.
SPEAKER_00It's just like not even well done. It's relentless and distracting. And like, if we're making a big deal about the fact that we signed this person and I can't even watch and I he left no impression on me because I didn't even watch, like, that's just bad commentary. I'm really sorry. Like, that's just point blank period what it is. Like, if I'm not actually paying attention to what you're commenting on, I don't know. I think that's just bad.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, um, period. Um, so William Regal is very scientific wrestler, very um a la, like the hearts are definitely in that vibe. There was a heart flavor in the air. Um, so yeah, but again, hard to focus on him. He's not going anywhere anytime soon. We will get a better uh taste for um what will become William Regal. You'll everyone just it's just one of those people you respect for how long he managed to just do the damn thing. Um, yeah. Was he ever like Stone Cold? Absolutely not. But great great man to have in your deck. Um, because you can put him with anybody and it just works. Um Jerry at one point goes, Why are you sitting next to JR? I'm like milk, I'll do your body good. Just making sure I document every hand.
SPEAKER_00And I just want to say I really sincerely doubt that. And if you have to say it, it usually means you can't spray it.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. Um basically, this match is a wrestling lesson from William Regal or Stephen Regal, apologies. Um, on Drosdov. Drawsdov has been in maybe like three matches total, um, and one of them was a street fight that ended up in a sleeping um spell.
SPEAKER_00So yes, the poppies and wizard of oz type vibes, right?
SPEAKER_03Right, right, right. So it was it was always going to be Steven Regal, it's his debut. He's a big submission guy. He basically hits the Regal stretch. Um, it's like a figure four of the legs, um, with uh like under hook. It's it's it's messy. I love it. It's um because he gets like really like in your fucking grill and like really yanks on your neck, and it's good, it's believable, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_01Yes.
SPEAKER_03Um, so Regal gets the win, more to come on that. Jerry needs, I don't know, a cold shower. Um and then that takes us into our next segment, which is Ken Shamrock being announced as the 1998 King of the Ring winner. Um, honestly, this starts out so strong and then takes such a weird takes us to such a weird place. What is it? Um basically he's like the you know, there's the old cliche like it's good to be king. I've been in many fights in my life in UFC and Japan, but the King of the Ring tournament was tough. Um, he's like, I'm gonna give credit to Rocky Mayavia, my opponent. Like, I don't respect you for the way that you carry yourself and what you've done to me in the past. But you know, like you stepped in there one-on-one with me, and that's literally that's the name of the game, and that's what I wanted. Um, and then Owen's music hits interrupting the the current king of the ring, and he's like, Ugh, spare me. I've also king of the ring, I was a better king of the ring. Um, if you got any guts, like we'll just do this now so that we can like just hash out who is the better king. You're like, all right, cool. Um, and then DX interrupts, or the DX music hits Triple H with China. China, amazing. Um, but triple H basically goes, Um, if you guys are talking best kings, like I'm standing right here, like you would have to go through me. So why don't we just make this a little three-way dance and like let's have at it? And then Ken Shamrock really just the like it was right there, it was right there. Like they just just say all he had to do was say, you're on, period, throw the mic, period, you're on, throw the mic, but no, but he goes, No, let me see if I get this right, and then he names everyone like multiple times. He's like, So you wanna see Hunter and Owen and myself.
SPEAKER_00No, he called him Hunter Hearst.
SPEAKER_03Oh, yeah, remember he was like, first he said Hunter Hearse Helmsley, and then he said he said you want to see Hunter Hearse, and Owen and myself like step into this ring, and Triple H is just like burying him on the mic. He's just like, Yeah, yeah, you're getting there. Like you're getting in there, connecting those dots, and then he goes, Like, I catch on like quick, but sometimes I'm a little slow, and you're just like, Oh no, oh we were going oh no, and then we're just like it's just like the the provo just got so derailed, but eventually he gets us home, he gets us to the match. It is a three-way match between the current King of the Ring champion and the 1994 and 1997 King of the Rings.
SPEAKER_00So um pulled that out of your your backpack.
SPEAKER_03I mean, we knew Triple H was the most recent, but Owen, okay. I was I it was like I think it's I was like Brett is one and that's 93, and then Owen was right after. So I'm pretty confident in that.
SPEAKER_00Period. Amen and period.
SPEAKER_03Um, but okay, guys, here's where it takes like a turn for the weird. A turn for the weird. What turn for the weird? All right, we done, we get a just it cuts to Steve Blackman shadow boxing, and we're like, oh cool, like love to see like what's up. Steve Blackman's getting ready. Hey, hey cutie, what's up? Um, and then we find out what this is all about, and we are starting the Brawl for It All tournament. And what this is is like a combo of like amateur wrestling and boxing and like mixed martial arts. Here are the here's the deal. Apparently, WWF Superstars wrestlers are going to participate in three one minute rounds, and the way this the name of the game is like most points wins. So five points are to be had for the most punches landed in a round, five points are to be had for any takedown. And 10 points for any knockdowns, which I don't know exactly what the difference is. But a knockout will end the round and therefore obviously declare one of them the victor.
SPEAKER_00Right.
SPEAKER_03Right. What are we doing, guys?
SPEAKER_00I am so here's exactly what I was thinking. I was like, but if they want to watch boxing, they'll watch boxing, as in the fans. Right. And if they want to watch wrestling, this is where they come. And obviously the fans who came for wrestling were like, hey, so what the fuck? Like, and there were chance of uh wait, I think I wrote it down. We want wrestling. We want wrestling.
SPEAKER_03So it was it was yeah, it was very interesting. So our first contest is it's Mark Miro and Steve Blackman. Um, first of all, okay. Um, we're gonna just take a look a little side note tangent. This is for the girls and the gays.
SPEAKER_00Um fast forward like one minute if you don't care.
SPEAKER_03No, one thousand percent no one hundred percent. Um, yeah, hit that 30 twice. Um, so um, guys, now now that they're gone, um, now that they've left Blackman done, came out here in just his like they are just the most delightful little shorts. They're blue, and I described them to Kelsey. I was like, I feel like I should only be able to see this man in these shorts had I wed him. Um period. Like that is like some Sunday morning, go get the paper outside um shorts. Like, that's crazy. Um, and he just brought it out.
SPEAKER_00He was looking so good. His legs, his legs uh hitherto unseen before mine eyes, gorgeous, and he was wearing real shoes, you guys, instead of those bowling shoes he's been wearing. I can't he look we were goofy, huffing, we were hemming and hawing about whatever the fuck this was, and then Ken or Steve came out.
SPEAKER_03We were like, I take it all back, I take it all back. I ain't never you ain't never heard me make a protest, not me. The world wrestling boxing. We do boxing, we do boxing. Mary a squeak out of me, nearly a peek. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_00Oh my god, he looked gorgeous. Wow. God bless.
SPEAKER_03Okay, so anyway, hey, welcome back, welcome back. Hi, um, so um, back to the match. Um, this was it's crazy. So basically, Steve Blackman gets far and away in points because he just is like the takedown king because he just has all of this mixed martial arts like background, and Mark Miro has a like a legitimate boxing background. You don't do takedowns in boxing, um, but like Mark Miro can't land fucking shit because Steve Blackman is just throwing him around left, right, and center. Um Mark Miro eventually like lands a couple that kind of like gives Steve like a like a you know, make him think twice. But like that was basically it. Like Steve Blackman just basically bulldozes Mark Miro, and we're just like watching these guys like really fight. And uh and uh the later one, the one later on is even more worse.
SPEAKER_00At least they have a background in something, right? Because I learned this when when I did boxing very briefly when I was younger, like boxers hold their you hold your hands up in front of your face because you're just going for hits like like you're protecting your trunk and your face, but like mixed martial artists, like they're protecting their whole body. So like Mark Muir's hands are up like this, and so Steve's just like, okay, so I'm just gonna keep taking you down over and over again because you're completely undefended in the lower half.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00But like boxers don't have to worry about that, right? They don't kick, they don't really take people down, like felt like he like he like has like two switches.
SPEAKER_03He has like a pro wrestling switch and then a boxing switch, and I felt like there was either, yeah. Um, whereas like Steve Lackman, like I feel like was already in the process of combining the two, um because it's not like uh Mark Miro like specifically does a lot of like boxing-centric stuff, like um so we probably out of practice to boot. Um but then that takes us into a uh backstage segment uh with Kevin Kelly, and he's basically trying to ask Kane why he decided to say yes to this rematch, and basically Kane and his uh voice box hit us with the cause I'm better than my brother, and we're like, okay, I'm a better champion than my brother ever was.
SPEAKER_00And you're like, Right, right.
SPEAKER_03Um, it's been literally one day. Let's you it's not even 24 hours, but hey, sure. Let's take a deep breath out there. No worries, no worries. No, he's out here sitting on like a 10 plus year career already. So with your dad, by the way, or about to be, he maybe like eight years, nine years at this point, but still. Um, and then that takes us into our next contest, which is a fun one, I think, because it is um Dick Togo of Kai and Thai taking on Val Venus. Um this one was just it's I have just the utmost respect for Kai and Thai. They're just such a welcome addition to the WWF at this point. He's so good, he has matches with everybody, he's so speedy, and he looks like a little like a little bulldog. Like he just is ready to go at all all times.
SPEAKER_00I can never thank Kai and Thai enough for coming to the WWE. I just can't.
SPEAKER_03100%. Um, and if you guys thought that like the the names of the participants are silly in this match, we did too. Um we all we all um but we unfortunately couldn't participate because our dear friend Dustin uh um Dustin Rhodes decides to um come out and uh spread the good spread the word of God. Um and basically he basically just it's horrible. It's like when you get like caught out in public and you're like, damn, I'm gonna have to sit here and answer these questions that are going to lead to nowhere that I want to be. Um but I'm not trying to be like the worst, but they're caught out on commentary and he's like grilling them about their like personal religious beliefs, and um the king at one point is just like yo, like not the time or the place, and you know, and you know you gotta be saying some fuck shit. Thank you.
SPEAKER_00If Jerry the King Lawler is like, um lie the voice of prison, like where the line, like who he actively pisses on that line every day, and he went, Hey, so this is our place of work, and my religious beliefs actually have are none of your business, and you can't just come out here and ask me that. And I was like, Fucking yeah, and you know, I don't want to agree with Jerry, you guys know this. I don't want to do that, but I will when he makes a point.
SPEAKER_03Listen, a broken clock is right twice a day.
SPEAKER_00Amen. And you know what? You listen, everyone can believe whatever they want, but don't come out here in my place of work and tell me what I should and should not believe and ask me about what I should do and do not believe in.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely, absolutely not. Ever. Um, so yeah, so basically, um the best part of this, like honestly, this whole match is Jerry on commentary as soon as Dustin leaves, like they send him off like just good and proper, and Jerry goes, I'm pissed. I the I was like, we had Dick, Togo, and Val Venus, and I had so much material, and Dustin came out here and I couldn't do any of it.
SPEAKER_00And I couldn't do any of it, and it's so funny because Xavier and I were mentioning it, obviously, because we're not stupid and we are children, right? Um, and we were just going like it's it's you know, it's the dick match, like whatever. And then as soon as Dustin left and Jerry said that we were like exactly Jerry, what the this was a beautiful opportunity that none of us got to capitalize on because we had to bring God into it. God damn it.
SPEAKER_03No, absolutely.
SPEAKER_00And he said that Valvinus has to get right with the Lord.
SPEAKER_03Sure, yeah. Oh, not having it.
SPEAKER_00I just don't think God would have given him all that all that meat if he wasn't supposed to barbecue. Do you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_03That's that's what I'm saying. Um, and which is fantastic because that's what I'm saying. Um, he hits the uh money shot on Togo, picks up the victory, and uses all that meat to go dance in front in front of Yamaguchi son's wife, who is stunning, by the way. He takes a piece all of his god-given gifts and just gives her a show, just body yadi out of the wave boy wave. Yeah, just absolutely, and so it's obviously um uh Yamaguchi san takes offense to this. He gets in Valvinus's face, he slaps Valvinus, Kayantai like gets in there and like starts going in for the beating. Valvinus pulls a chair out from under the ring and basically just slaughters Kayantai with the chair and leaves everybody out, and then he continues his um gyrating and gesticulating all up in face, and you're just like, okay.
SPEAKER_00Like, I just beat up your husband, and here's my gyration for you.
SPEAKER_03No, 100%. And then we like basically, and like, and I love this because it's the hard cut uh into edge in the rafters is so crazy. It's just edge, like just long blonde hair over his like sunglasses. Uh, it's a mess.
SPEAKER_00It's so it's so this this episode was there were so many hard pivots of and just being like, what? Like, what's happening right now? I love Edge, he is so funny.
SPEAKER_03Oh, so crazy.
SPEAKER_00The but the worst part is though, he's not supposed to be. But every time I see him and he's just like in the thing, so giggle. I'm sorry.
SPEAKER_03No, it's rubble without a cause, it's crazy. Um, but then that takes us into an interview segment with Michael Cole and Stone Cold Steve Austin. And Michael Cole's like, You just lost the title yesterday. How confident are you in your ability to? And he goes, eh, didn't lose the title, thank you very much. So, how confident am I? Plenty. Um, you better get out of here because you're pissing me off, and I love it. That's how he ends it.
SPEAKER_00He's just an amen and period.
SPEAKER_03You better go. Um, and then that takes us into our next match, which is the triple threat match between Triple H, Owen Hart, and Ken Shamrock. And it was fantastic.
SPEAKER_00Dare I say the best match of the night?
SPEAKER_03Fantastic. Like, guys, if you want to go back and watch a fun triple thread, that's a good one. Triple H really also another one I enjoy.
SPEAKER_00I love a triple thread.
SPEAKER_03Like, I like other multi-man matches like Fatal Four Ways and like up, but I I just again something about three, it's just the sweet spot. It just there it there's enough chaos to keep it interesting, but like not so much that I feel like I start repeating spots, or it's unbelievable that two people are like in like capacitated at the same time.
SPEAKER_00Yes, and also like that there can be like three factions, there can be like there's a lot of great storytelling opportunities, I feel like in a triple threat. Um, yeah, and which obviously all three of these people, well, especially Triple H and Owen are brilliant at capitalizing on because they're just brilliant. I mean, Ken Shamrak has come a long way. Again, I feel really bad, but I never foresaw him becoming King of the Ring. But sure. Sure. But this was such a great match. I very, very much enjoyed this.
SPEAKER_03Um, Ken attacked Owen from behind um during Owen's entrance, basically giving this match a jump start. My next match is just great match, and then I just have notes, um, not that many because it was too good to like stop and do what I was doing. Um, there is a beautiful moment where Owen uh hits uh Triple H out of a pedigree situation that he was about to do onto Ken Shamrock, and that's um uh at one point China low bridges Owen knocking him out to the outside, allowing um for oh, and which was fantastic because so he gets knocked outside, and then he turns to obviously face China, and China just looks at him and he's like, What? Like, what of it?
SPEAKER_00Incredible, like and it was invented nonchalance, no 100 and um so good.
SPEAKER_03Um, but that basically that chaos allows the opening for the rock to run down the entrance ramp, hit triple H with the Intercontinental Championship so that Shamrock uh can pick up the victory. DX attacks the rock, the nation comes out, attacks DX, Gang Warfare, Gang Warfare, Gang Warfare, commercial break.
SPEAKER_00Exactly.
SPEAKER_03Right, right, right. Um uh then we cut to um oh post match. Sorry, I I cut I cut to the commercial break a little too soon for the bit. Um but oh in uh hits Ken Shamrock with the figure four around the ring post, a la his brother. Um I'd love to see it. Just just a little just a little homage. Um when we come back, um, it is cameras on Jerry, and he's like, uh Taker. I have been in contact with Undertaker how, I don't know. Um, but basically he's got a confession to make. Um, and of course, after that, gong Undertaker comes out, Michael Cole is in the ring. Um basically, it's just like there are some people who feel like you owe an explanation for your uh involvement in the WWF championship match last night. Um, and the Undertaker's like, I owe nobody anything ever. Um, so thank god there's that. And he's like, I will tell you. Uh he's like, there's no love loss between um me and Kane, and that's mainly to the mind manipulation of Paul Bear, but I was not going to uh let Kane set himself on fire, and you're like, ooh, okay, not wasn't what I was expecting, but like did not expect that answer at all. I'm confused. And then he's like, uh, he being Michael Cole is like, uh, many people feel like you may have cost um Stone Cold Steve Austin the title, and the Undertaker is like, I did what I had to do. So um no real explanation, but he was just like okay.
SPEAKER_00But here's why I'm confused because did we or did we not have an Inferno match where the object was to light the other person on fire?
SPEAKER_03Correct.
SPEAKER_00But now that's not okay.
SPEAKER_03Well, like I guess light himself on fire to death. I don't know.
SPEAKER_00Like I guess, but I was like, didn't you do that? Like, didn't you light him on fire? I'm confused, but like I I can see where the seeds are being planted, where it's like Hall is really the divisive element in this triad, in this threesome, this destructive threesome, and which we know and I've said, but I I can see like how the that's working, and like Kane always idolized the Undertaker, but like turned it in a negative way where he was gonna be better because Paul was in his ear, and like but Undertaker still has love for him, even though they and like I can see how that could lend itself to the future, right? But I was like, this is a strange angle to take when we literally had a pay-per-view based off lighting each other on fire. Like, I don't know, but sure.
SPEAKER_03But sure. No, absolutely. But Vince comes out and uh I guess also smells bullshit because he's like, Oh, like now you have compassion. Um, he's like, Um, I think you did it because you think you can beat Kane and you think you can't beat Stone Cold Steve Austin. I was like, Whoa, okay, them fighting words out here, Vince. That's crazy.
SPEAKER_00And also, that means you think that Stone Cold is also like the bigger threat.
SPEAKER_03And obviously, that is the case basically uh all of the everything he does when Stone Cold Steve Austin is champion. But then he gives uh The Undertaker a warning and he uh says, Hell hath no fury if you interfere in the WWF championship match tonight, and basically he's like, Heed my warning. And I'm like, Oh, okay, we're getting all the fucking old world y with it.
SPEAKER_00Like, but I'm like, Vince, first of all, spotty, you got it. He was like, he was like, You are the worst demon hell ever spat out, or whatever. And I was like, That's you, but I but also like it's so funny to be like um like hell hath no fury. Like, I am hell, I'm the undertaker, hell hath no fury, I am the hell and the fury in that scenario. Like, bitch, you don't know me. Like, what are you talking about? Like, come out here and reprimand me, scold me. I am the king of the darkness, I am the hell. Like, shut shut up. Absolutely, whatever, but shut up.
SPEAKER_03No, that's fantastic. Um, but then we get our second Brawl for All contest, and this one is drastically different than the first. It is uh Bradshaw taking on Mark Canterbury. Wow, formerly Henry Godwin. Um apparently that is his legitimate legal name, Mark Canterbury. But like, I'm sorry. Um talk about like just like as far as like intimidation factor, who and not the canterbury tales, not the canterbury tales, girl.
SPEAKER_00That's because you know that's what I thought of. But also to go from like the Godwins to Southern Justice for four seconds.
SPEAKER_03No, but I I think I think he's still in Southern Justice. I just think as Mr.
SPEAKER_00Canterbury, yeah, dude.
unknownSure.
SPEAKER_03Okay, well I mean I I guess does I feel I guess Canterbury sounds like somebody who owns uh a local something like a jammery?
SPEAKER_00She you know Mama Canterbury makes the best peach jam there is.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely, she's a jamstress.
SPEAKER_00She's a jamstress. Oh, okay, fine. I'm having tea at Miss Canterbury's this afternoon. Okay, and Mima Canterbury.
SPEAKER_03That's good.
SPEAKER_00All right, whatever. I'm back.
SPEAKER_03Oh, I love her. And we're back. And we're back edition of jam. Everything was solved. It's fine.
SPEAKER_00And ain't that always the way? Ain't that always the way?
SPEAKER_03Um, this match is crazy. It's just a brawl. They're literally, if you want to just see two 300-pound men just punch each other in the face with no experience, but three minutes left for three minutes straight. That's it. That's the whole thing. They were really going at it. So at some point in the second round, they were punching the shit out of each other. Um, so uh Bradshaw is the winner, just solely on punches landed. Um, that no, there was no takedowns, there was no knockdowns, there was no, there was none of that happening. It was just mess door mess.
SPEAKER_00Mess.
SPEAKER_03Mess.
SPEAKER_00It was they just put boxing gloves on two meaty meats men's and they just let them hit each other.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. They said, Larry the lobsters, go to town, literally get out there, go to town with your big meaty claws, because that's crazy.
SPEAKER_01Big meaty claws, crazy.
SPEAKER_03Um, speaking of messy, uh, the LOD 2000 comes out, sans sunny, and we're like, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_00And they go, she's feeling a little under the weather, and we were like, mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_03How about that? Um, and then he's like, LOD's got a surprise for you. Um, a great man brought us into uh like into wrestling and brought us to like all these heights as the Legion of Doom. Like he put us together, he brought us to all these championships. Um, and then uh basically we're we're led to believe we're gonna get this great reunion of precious Paul Ellery um acting, I guess, as the replacement for Sonny, which is crazy. So are we are we replacing her? Because that was the vibe I got before um the chaos that ensued. That's what I thought. Um, so Paul Ellery is announced, he comes down. Um, they give him the microphone, like he's about to start his little say his little piece, his little welcome back, whatever. Um, when eight ball and skull come down in their bikes, and we're like, okay, what's going on? Um and then and then the thing. That Paul Ellery has to tell everybody is that his new team is the DOA. It is a bone skull managed by we have now hit the bald-headed trifecta that we uh three balls come together 100% to give us like the Nega miss. So um I guess and then they just beat down the Legion of Doom, and that's kind of that's the gist on that.
SPEAKER_00I'm such a hater, but I just don't know why we keep putting eggs in the DOA basket. I'm so confused. They they are I'm they're fine. Like, could I do what they do? No, but that's not what I'm saying. Like, I just don't get it. They don't resonate, they don't resonate, and they don't have anything I feel like anyone resonates with. Like, they're not exactly stupendous wrestlers. Again, they're not bad, they're not good on the mic, they have no real viable, interesting story. I like don't I do not get it. I do not get it, but sure, sure let's try this. Bring another Baldy in here. Let's for the for the twins. Let's go.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, well, I will say that they definitely need a mouthpiece. So I'm hoping that solves that at the very least. That's yeah, that's fair. And we'll we'll see. We'll see. I just wish I was like, can the LOD get a fucking W? Can we get like I swear to God? Can we get like it's too long? They've been just on the short end of the stick. I was like, what the hell did they do?
SPEAKER_00We need to get them with like some more in some more tag team action. Like, what is happening we need new beef for the LOD or something?
SPEAKER_03I agree. This this is stale. Um but then we get Kevin Kelly with the Undertaker, and he's basically just like, Are you going to heed Mr. McMahon's warning? And the Undertaker's like, uh, nobody tells me what to do. So just uh and that's my friend. Um, and then that takes us into our main event for the evening, which is a WWF championship rematch between Stone Cold Steve Austin and Kane. Um, this is great. And and my first match, my first note is just like, what a world where these two exist at the same time and are fighting.
SPEAKER_00Whoa, honestly, amen. That is so true.
SPEAKER_03Because like, what? Like what?
SPEAKER_00But even like him and the Undertaker too. It's like two gigantic men like fighting.
SPEAKER_03You're like, what the f well when you I I feel like when you're talking about them specifically, it becomes like this like mythological bubble thing where they like also exist in this world of like magic and lore. But it always like like makes me giggle like a little bit when you're like, oh, like the like the every man, the like your union's favorite man like is taking on like the younger brother of hell itself. Just this like like demon, like this scab demon. Like, and it's just like that's crazy, like that's such a crazy concept. But like here we are in wrestling, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Only in wrestling we have yeah, literally the everyman wrestler, and then Mr. Light, Mr. Firebolts, or whatever.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Mr. Heatmiser.
SPEAKER_00Heat Miser.
SPEAKER_03Um, yeah, of course, Austin comes out hot, like from the gates, it's just kind of what he does. They take it to the outside. Um, they really let the girlies fight in this one. This was good. This was it, this was a really good one. This was a good I as much as it was a bad match for wrestling or a bad show for wrestling, it was a pretty good show for wrestling at the same time. Yeah, I think they gave us a bad, I think they knew that this was a a like a gamble. So they they gave us a couple really some real juicies, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Some real juicies. Um very true.
SPEAKER_03They really let the girlies fight in this one's another one. So if you want to hit that triple threat and then skip to the end, by all means, good on you. Yeah, um, so I love it. At one point, Paul Bear hits Austin with a shoe. Um, then the Undertaker comes down the ringside because again, nobody was gonna tell that man what to do. Um, Stone Cold hits the stunner on Kame and wins the title back. Girl, crazy.
SPEAKER_00Let me let me tell you something. I love when a bitch holds a title for literally 24 hours. I don't know why that tickles me a day. I love it, chamber day, because who else did that happen to? I don't remember, but I was like, I remember being like, imagine he lost it less than 24 hours later, and then he did, and I was like, Oh my god, why? Yes, but well, I'm I mean, I didn't expect him, I didn't know what was gonna happen because I didn't expect Stone Cold to not to lose the title so soon, but I also didn't anticipate a way, like I couldn't figure out how they would light Kane on fire and not have him die.
SPEAKER_01Right.
SPEAKER_00Um, so I was like, I guess, but then when I almost said it, I almost said it when the match started, like, man, I hope he just like takes the title back, like literally lost it for only a day and only because someone else interfered. Like, that's really fucking cool. But I was like, I'm not gonna get my hopes up because there's no way like they would treat me this way.
SPEAKER_03And here they are. Oh my god, treating you this way. It's so good. I love it.
SPEAKER_00It's like my situation ship brought me flowers. I just would have never expected that of them.
SPEAKER_03Absolutely. Um Taker comes in the ring after the match only to get a stunner for himself. Um, the brothers sit up at the same time, and we're left with um the picture of the brothers of destruction sitting in the ring, standing in the ring, staring at Stone Cold's Steve Austin, who is celebrating his um now two-time WWF champion. Um yeah, fantastic. Beautiful at that title back, flipping the birds. He's yeah, he's really living his best life.
SPEAKER_00He knocked out both those boys and said, see a mother, and just flipped him. Absolutely. So beautiful. I really wish they actually hadn't shown us the extra attitude, extra attitude because uh the brothers of destruction start fighting. But I very much like the image better of like Undertaker and Kane standing in the ring like together but apart, watching Stone Cold take the title back. Yeah, very fierce.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, but the extra attitude is literally just Kane and the Undertaker beefing. We get a choke slam, we get a Undertaker uh Undertaker does pop Paul if you'd like if that tickles your fancy.
SPEAKER_00It did tickle my fancy.
SPEAKER_03I know it tickles Kelsey's. Um, but yeah, yeah, yeah. That's where they leave us, guys. The fallout of the King of the Ring was juicy, and obviously we don't really know. Wait, the mancon was like vaguely in this episode. He was like in the background, he was like in the background of the cane promo. I was like, he did not need to come to work today.
SPEAKER_00I'm just saying, no, he could have stayed home. I think everyone would have understood.
SPEAKER_03Uh yeah, no, I I I like he really didn't add a lot to that promo. So I think I think we could have let Mick uh take take uh take a back seat, guys.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and I think it's he must be, which obviously, of course, because this was literally 24 hours ago, he's obviously hurting and like he lost teeth, and his mouth is probably in a lot of pain because I was like, they really did not talk about the hell in the cell at all. Right. Because obviously Mick can't, I'm assuming he's like not in the place to be shooting cutting promos about it. Although if anyone could, it's probably him. Yeah, but I just was like, oh yeah, they didn't like talk about that at all because they were they just talked about the Undertaker's involvement in the title swap, which yeah, and Jerry Fine mentioned it a little bit on commentary, but it was like breeze. Also, I wonder if they're not giving too much away before like you can re-watch it. Probably, you know, because it was so insane. So maybe they'll talk about it more next week. But yeah, holy shit, where do you go from there?
SPEAKER_03We're gonna find out. We're gonna find out. Stay tuned, guys. This has been another edition of the New Wrestling Podcast. Thank you for listening, commenting, subscribing, all that good stuff wherever you happen to find us for Kelsey. I am Xavier, and we'll catch you on the next one. We'll see you there. Bye. Bye.