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Ep. 60 Understanding Your Emotional Wave(s) within Human Design (with special guest Carmen Tuleta)

• Erin Gray

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Discover how understanding your emotional wave can transform your life with our special guest, Carmen Tuleta. In this episode, Carmen and I break down the different emotional waves within the solar plexus center and its powerful impact on our emotional wellbeing. 

Tune in for insights on tracking your emotional states and discover the significance of honoring your emotions to boost creativity and productivity.

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Introduction

Erin Gray

You're listening to Generate a Life Well-Lived podcast. I'm your friend and confidant, erin Gray. I'm a former certified financial planner, turned human design, financial mentor and guide to entrepreneurs. I believe our money and our business can only thrive at the level of our emotional wellbeing. I empower entrepreneurs to feel confident with their money and in their business so that they can have fun now and in the future.

Overview of Emotional Waves in Human Design

Erin Gray

On this podcast, we will explore all things money, business and self-development, including human design. I hope you enjoy the journey where I share everything that I know and am continuing to learn along the way, as I honor my heart's desires while inspiring and encouraging you to do the same. Okay, my friends, we're back with Carmen Toledo and we're talking about the emotional waves of the solar plexus, and we're going to dive in and get a little bit down into the nitty gritty and then also give you some helpful tips. I think this, for me at least it changed everything for me when I recognized or I realized that I had a wave that I needed to ride. And so, first and foremost, carmen, thanks for coming back, for partying with us and being here.

Carmen Tuleta

I am so excited to be here. Anytime, I'm happy to be here.

Erin Gray

So I am, if those of you that are watching I'm going to. This is the first time I'm doing this. We're going to see how it works. I have almost kind of like a little I don't like the word presentation, but that's basically what I guess it is so we'll talk about. So let's dive in. So you want to kind of drive, carmen, or you want me to ask some questions, or you kind of how do you want to do it?

Carmen Tuleta

Whatever you like, I am a game for anything you kind of how do you want to do it.

Erin Gray

Whatever you like, I am a game for anything. Okay, so, first and foremost, for those of you that may be newer to human design, right, like, there are nine centers in the body graph and those obviously come from the chakra system, and a couple of them what do you want to call it? Broke off? So they say it's like you know they kind of split apart, or whatever. Um, what do you want to call it Broke off? So they say you know they kind of split apart, or whatever? Um, what did they say? 1700s or something like that. Yeah, it became from a seven center to a nine center, being I like to think of it like the great divide.

Carmen Tuleta

you know, when the dinosaurs, when that split happened, yeah.

Introduction to the Emotional Energy Chart

Erin Gray

So the solar plexus is basically, we have, uh, what?

Erin Gray

Seven, seven gates, and or you could have a channel, um, and I don't, and uh, so a channel makes up is comprised of two gates, right, um, so let's dive in and talk about I've got the emotional energy chart here, just for those of you that we, Carmen and I, talk a lot about vibration.

Erin Gray

Right, like everything that we do, I think it's, it's we're just all energy, and so having and knowing like where, when I talk about like what is your baseline energy at emotions, like we're all going to dip into all of these different emotions, right, and when you think about your, your emotions that you feel on a consistent basis, if you were to name the top three emotions, what are those most emotions? And then where do they lie on the vibrational scale? And so for me I don't know about you, carmen, you can talk about a little bit for you, but, like for me four or five years ago, mine was definitely probably like anger, frustration and what else was I probably fear for sure, and just probably a lot of frustration that I was in. What about for you?

Carmen Tuleta

I was definitely at the lower end of the spectrum all the time. Um, fear and shame were big themes for me. Um, pridefulness is probably not I find that in this scale it's kind of higher vibration but pride from a disempowered place probably for me.

Erin Gray

Um, yeah, I think definitely I think you can. You know a know pride has. You have to be really aware of pride and you have to be aware of desire, right, because pride can be like I use pride a lot, like I'm so proud of myself, but that comes from a like good job, like like you would a toddler, like you're so proud of what you've done, versus what I think you're talking about is pride is like I'm not gonna say I'm sorry because I'm not. You know almost that arrogance and ego versus a heart based pride. And the same thing goes for desire, right, like, because desire on here is, you know, vibrationally, it's like 125 hertz.

Erin Gray

But when you think about like, we are taught like we want to desire things, but desire comes from a place, from a heart based place. It comes from that place of like I want more, I want to expand, I want to have you know more of my life, but not from a like my life is terrible and I hate where I'm at. I think that's what that desire is right Versus. We're just soul beings and we want to evolve and we want to grow.

Carmen Tuleta

I think there's a flip side to all of these energies, right? All of these these emotional energies or feelings, or whatever you want to want to label them as, so definitely it can be on either end of the spectrum right the, the chart itself.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah, all of those centers, we all have them. It's just depends on how we experience where our gates and our channels are is how we experience those energies versus. Um, yeah, we all have the same parts, right, we all have. We all have bodies, we all have emotions, we all have energy. So we all have the same parts. It's just how we experience it with, with what is, is colored in or defined in our charts.

Erin Gray

Okay, so you want to go over emotional waves or talk about that, and I'll pipe in Sure.

Carmen Tuleta

So we have three emotional waves and there is or sorry, four emotional waves, I guess, and one is the source of all waves. I kind of or sorry, four emotional waves, I guess, and one is the source of all waves, I kind of sometimes the source of all waves. I forget that it's actually a wave, because it is probably the most, um, even kill. Yeah, I don't want to say volatile, because they don't think anything. Any of them are volatile if you work with them.

Erin Gray

So, um, it just depends on where you are in that moment, right, yeah, and I've heard and tell me if you've, if you've learned this as well as like, almost like the source wave they call it the source wave because do the other ones kind of can be encased in that source wave? Like the source wave can kind of actually mimic all of those other ones.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah, it's kind of like the chameleon wave, right? Yeah, it's the mechanical right, is it not? It's the mechanical wave.

Erin Gray

Yeah, cause it comes off of the sacral. Yeah, I have that wave. We can talk about that here in a second.

Carmen Tuleta

I have it too. I'm lucky, I have all the waves. I have it too.

Erin Gray

I'm lucky, I have all the waves.

Carmen Tuleta

Okay, you don't have 59.6, do you? You can't have 59.6.

Erin Gray

Well, I guess I don't have 59. I do have the six.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah, you have the six.

Erin Gray

Okay, I see what you're saying so the gates and stuff. That is something else I want to say too. So even if you don't have the channel right Like I have 59, six, but you might just have the six you still will experience it, like what Carmen's saying you still will experience it because you have the gate.

Carmen Tuleta

And we can get into that a little bit more later, because I'll talk about my experience with that and and how I kind of direct people that have more than one wave okay, anything that you want to say about emotional waves here in terms of um yeah, well, you can.

Carmen Tuleta

You can see just by this graphic how they kind of move, I guess, in their wave. Yeah, and it's interesting when you look at someone's chart like for whoever might be watching this, and pull someone's chart and sees these channels and gates that might be present, you can pick it out pretty, pretty easily, I think.

Erin Gray

I think anyway, but once you learn to understand the way that the waves show up, I have have been able to see, like, oh, that makes a lot of sense, um, and I think, like with anyone and anything with human design and just in general, right, like, I always come back to like, how can we have more self-compassion? I'll be the first to say that that doesn't always happen with me, sometimes within my family, and also, like when someone is in their wave, how can we be supportive? Because we don't have to make it personal about us, Like this is something that they are experiencing, they are going through, and if they either don't have the tools or they're you know and we're all just human, right, so, like learning that it's not a personal thing, somebody might just be in their wave and how can we be supportive? And that also doesn't mean we need to be like a doormat either, right, um, but a lot of the times, from what I've seen, like the wave is, or our emotions are never about the other person. It's always within us.

Carmen Tuleta

At the end of the day, it's all about awareness, right? Yeah, it's about self-awareness. It's about, you know, extending that self-awareness out to people, or not? Self-awareness of the awareness to other people, to have that compassion at the end of the day, that's. That's actually how I look at human design to empower us to have that self-acceptance, self-awareness and and and through that, help other people or understand other people better. Yeah.

Erin Gray

Okay, so let's talk about the source of all waves 59, six.

Carmen Tuleta

The tunnel that connects to the sacral, from the sacral to the solar plexus. So, aaron, you have this, so you probably have, you probably have more of an understanding of it than I do, because it isn't as prominent in my chart, because I only have the six.

Erin Gray

So talk about it. Yeah, I definitely like. You know this channel, you know it's. It is definitely all about like creativity, passion, desire, I would even say like, and definitely intimacy. And they and they have said and when I learned about this, they say you know, it breaks down the barriers of intimacy, and I have always had a gift of people are able to tell me all of the things about their life in like five minutes.

Erin Gray

Um, there's this one time where Jason and I were at a company party or something and I was dancing with his or talking to his. It was, um, it was the BMW dealership and it was the owner of the BMW dealership and I was talking to him and he was just divulging all of the things. And I came back home and I said, hey, did you know about this and this and this? And like, what's this he's like? How did you get all of this information out of him? Like, this guy never talks to anybody. He's met you the first time and I'm like I don't know, I just listened. And now, like, looking back, like I don't know, you know, like 59, six, I'm just also part of me just listening to people.

Erin Gray

Um, but definitely you can. I feel like when I say intimacy obviously right, it doesn't mean sex, it just means like you can get to be really close with someone very quickly and build that trust with someone. And I don't think I've ever had it backfire on me, but sometimes I think some people might not be ready to be. It can be a little bit what do you call it Like orc piercing, sometimes in a way like almost like you're just so I'm, I can get intimate with anyone very quickly and sometimes not everyone is able to do that or ready to do that.

Carmen Tuleta

I can attest to what Aaron is saying because I feel the same way. Um, I think, aaron, it's a lot of a combination of your 59 six as well as your generator aura, because you are so warm and enveloping and you're very open. So you know, the generator aura is so warm and inviting and on top of that you have this 59.6 source wave that just you are very easy to connect to.

Erin Gray

Yeah, so out of, out of the waves you know, like on the previous slide it talks about, or it shows like how it's a more. When it says stable like I, it's not like the other waves are more volatile or whatever. Right, it's just it does have a more progression, I guess. Um, and it does. I think that it is correct when it says you know like it takes others out, you know outside influences to activate it, because I can be perfectly fine and my husband comes in and does something and it's like we, like the, the, the um example that I was given when I first learned about this wave was like you could be in a cornfield by yourself and you could just be enjoying just the beauty and the nature and just thinking like everything is just so amazing. And then the farmer comes along and just decides to mow down the cornfield and then you're all pissed off, like that, literally, is what happens with this wave.

Erin Gray

I think, right, it's like with I could be fine. And then my husband comes in and does something and I'm like why the fuck did you just do that? Right, Like it's that, like it's almost like an initiation into right Is what it feels like. And so recognizing here. Here we go back to like what I said in the beginning. It's like it's not about me, it's not about him, right, and it's like, okay, he didn't do it on purpose, and also it does kind of like upset the apple cart a little bit, you know right and there are other areas in your chart right might cause a little bit of that too you know, got a lot of individual wave in my chart, so there's that.

Erin Gray

But um, so, yeah. So just recognizing also too, I think, from a decision making standpoint, like if you are defined in your solar plexus, no matter what wave you have and you might have multiple waves, carmen can talk about this but like if you, if you have definition and you have, you know, a wave, how important it is to get to neutral before you make a decision. Like this was the aha for me, because you might be a yes for something in the moment, no matter what type you are right, like manifest or projector generator, whatever, and letting yourself ride that wave to get to a neutral where you don't feel the heightened, like elation and you and you're not in a low, low. Like making decisions, business decisions, money decisions from that place, like from a place of complete almost you're you'll never be. Like you know a hundred percent, 80%, you know 80%. Clarity is basically you know what we'll have.

Erin Gray

But just that that has helped me a ton, because in the business world we still live in this like FOMO, scarcity, hurry up, buy. Now you know you get on a call with somebody and they expect you to make a decision, or you know, just a lot of like rushed mentality and half of the population has a wave to ride. And so I think of this two ways, um, one of us making a decision if you have an emotional wave, and also when you are selling right, like you have to think about half of the population does not, or half of the population has a wave to ride, right. So this like three day hurry up by now, like that isn't enough time for some of us to ride a wave, to get to neutral.

Carmen Tuleta

Especially when you're first starting out playing with your emotional wave and trying to understand it. Yeah, I can. I can honestly, and we can talk about this more in in depth when, as we go on, we'll get through the waves and and kind of talk about how to work with the waves. But anything else here I don't think so. But I can say that with having the six, I don't probably feel it as much as you because I only have the six, but I definitely people can for lack of a better word trigger me, but I don't like using that word, but they can. Things can come up. Initiate you, I say it Initiate me, yeah, initiate, I think we're constantly being initiated. And it Initiating yeah, initiate.

The Tribal Wave (37-40 and 19-49 Channels)

Erin Gray

Right, I think we're constantly being initiated and just because we are just in everybody's aura, right, like we're in somebody else's aura and they're in ours, and so it's just this initiation that we can feel at times because, yeah, we're just energy and it's just. It's just what happens.

Carmen Tuleta

So oh, the fun tribal wave. There's 3740 and 1949. This wave is definitely sensitive and and it operates, definitely operates through physical touch. It can be dissipated through physical touch.

Erin Gray

Meaning like if you're upset, you can be calmed through physical touch.

Carmen Tuleta

And, um, it definitely um does build, build, build, build and then explodes. Yeah, yep, I have this way and this is a channel um for me, so it's definitely a cause. This is, yeah, this is the solar plexus to the heart right 3740.

Erin Gray

Yeah, yeah, the solar plexus to the heart, yeah.

Carmen Tuleta

Yes, yes and um, and the root, root to the solar plexus, yes, yes. So for me, in terms of how I experience it, it definitely builds. I let stuff pile, pile, pile, pile and then it's the smallest little thing that is going to tip me over the edge and it's like and I'm not proud to say it it can be almost catastrophic. It can be like and I don't say it, I, now that I know how to ride my wave, it has drastically changed a lot of how I move through it. But at one time it wasn't pretty, um, because of it, because I let it just festered for so long.

Erin Gray

I was going to say like, and all of this right Like. What we're trying to talk about and teach and share is from a place of like, awareness, right Like. The more you understand how your wave is, the more you can support yourself and you can recognize it right Like. So I'm pretty sure, carmen, that you recognize as you're building, building, building, like you know you kind of see yourself.

Erin Gray

now climb up right Back. Then you didn't, but now you're like, oh, I see what's happening, Right, and. And so having that awareness and knowing and also being able to talk to the people that are around you and that you love, so that here we go back to like, this isn't about them, right? This is you experiencing your emotions and you working through your own emotions Yep.

Carmen Tuleta

One thing I will say is this is what's changed the game for me, kind of like what you said, aaron. It's once I understood and had that awareness to see where this was. At one time I had guilt because I thought, oh, now I know, and now I, if I would have known this sooner, things would be different. But it has allowed me to let that go. I don't have that guilt because now I have a tool, I have the ability to move through it completely differently than I ever ever did. So it was. It's much easier to let go of that, yeah, and feel more empowered.

Erin Gray

Yeah, yeah, for sure, Um and I, I have, uh, 49, I don't have 19, but just just recognizing that, even though you might not have the channel, if you have the gate, you still experience this. And I don't want to go down the rabbit hole of like when you're in somebody else's aura, but, like, if Carmen has 19, then together we have 19 and 49. And so then now we have the tribal wave together, and so it's just just being aware of how much our energy and our like, yeah, the waves and and navigating them. But the biggest thing I would think, oh and I didn't say this is like, if you are making decisions, how important it is to to kind of like I have to get by myself, I have to get in nature sometimes, to kind of just like get out of everybody else's aura, to like get to that neutral and and feel, um, making sure that it's my energy and not anybody else's.

Carmen Tuleta

It's interesting that you say that because, looking back, I did that unknowingly at one time because I just had to remove myself from people because I was overwhelmed, or what have you?

Erin Gray

I wonder if that's like the projectors. I wonder if that's just like projectors right there too, right Like, because you're just like. Maybe that's very possible.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah.

Erin Gray

Okay. Anything else on before we go on to? I don't think so, okay, okay. Individual wave.

Carmen Tuleta

The individual wave can be moody.

Erin Gray

I got 39. And my child has 55. I have 22. Yeah, and I have family members that have the 22-12.

Carmen Tuleta

And yeah, you just yeah, and it's very much. Yeah, and it's very much. You have to be in the mood to do certain things, yes. If you're not in the mood to do something, it ain't happening. Yeah, yeah, and it's very much. Um, you have to be in the mood to do certain things, yes. If you're not in the mood to do something, it ain't happening.

Erin Gray

Yeah, yeah, and I think I think this also goes back to like, having this, isn't this, isn't to say, okay, oh, you have this, so like as an excuse and also giving yourself compassion, right, like I have tried to force myself to do things when I wasn't in the mood and it never turns out well, right, versus when I'm feeling it, when I and here we go back to the business world and like goals and you're supposed to, you know, you said you were going to do it this day and all of this but like, if you're literally not, I want you to think about, if you're literally not in the mood and you're in a lower vibration, does it actually feel good to force yourself and like, what creativity is going to come from that?

Erin Gray

Or does it make? When I say sense, what I mean is like, or is it more nourishing to you and your body to just feel what needs to be felt that day or that couple of hours or whatever it might be, and maybe push back you know what you said you were going to do and and feel that and then be in a different mood and then the creativity and all of that. Right, it's almost like, is it going to take us eight hours to do something if we're not in the mood, or is it going to take us two because we've allowed ourselves the couple of hours to kind of decompress and do what we need to do in order to get you know?

Carmen Tuleta

in the mood. I love that you say creativity, because the solar plexus is all about creativity as well.

Carmen Tuleta

So I think a lot of artists have this wave, and that's where some of the very moody kind of paintings and art come from, very likely. So, yeah, and something that I wanted to say too is, when you're not in the mood, something with it all comes back to your strategy and authority. Again, check in with yourself, right, that's still the building block for all the things, yeah, and when you're riding that wave, does this feel, feel good? If you're a generator, do I have that sacral response? Right?

Erin Gray

So that's another way to move through through things as well your solar plexus up to your throat and the 39.55 goes from your root to your to your solar plexus, and so, yeah, uh, it's um. I don't think I have anything else to say about that. I don't think I do either. Okay, um, oh, I do. Being alone, right, when're like here, we go back to like how we are taught in society. If we are this is probably the very word my parents used to use with me is melancholy connotation.

Erin Gray

Versus now, understanding is like it's just it's.

Erin Gray

It's almost like we have developed a culture that you're not allowed to feel anything else but happy, right, and so, talking about when karma was saying I used to feel shame, it's like now that you say that and I think about it and being melancholy like I think I did used to have some shame around that, because it's like, well, I should be happy, like I remember when you're made wrong for it, right, yeah, like I think, probably when I started my self development journey, you know, like five ish years ago, it's like I should be happy I have everything that you know I've ever wanted, or things of that sort.

Erin Gray

Versus just being like, and this is the human experience, right, like we get to experience every single emotion and it's okay. Um, and if we are continuing to repress it, like I think it, it almost we can, we can put it against ourselves or like put our is it called? Put ourselves against each other when we are thinking we shouldn't be feeling this way, right, like if you are feeling moody, just feel moody, right, it doesn't mean you get to be an asshole to somebody.

Carmen Tuleta

Well, there's that push, pull right, it's that fight against yourself, because you should be doing this versus all your, yeah, doing this versus all you, yeah, just allowing yourself to be right.

Erin Gray

And then it comes and it goes also, too, you. You can play with this, but, like sometimes for me, moving my body dissipates this oh, the emotional or the individual wave sometimes really, yeah, yeah, like. Uh, if I wake up and I'm like just sometimes in a crappy mood, I'll just go walk or move my body and I'll just say like, how am I going to feel after that? And most times I'm I'm okay. That's really interesting.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah, um, and I think we maybe have talked about this, because I think you've mentioned this to me before about getting up and moving my body when I'm feeling melancholy. Yeah, this to me before about getting up and moving my body when I'm feeling melancholy. Um, one of the things I wanted to mention about the individual wave is, even if you're undefined in your solar plexus, if you're, if your solar plexus isn't colored colored in you are still going to have this wave. So, whether you are an emotional being or not, we're all emotional beings. But if, if, by human design.

Erin Gray

definition of emotional right, that's what you mean.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah, yeah, yeah, in traditional human design language, when you're emotionally defined, okay, um, but we all have. We all have emotions. So and and then, if you do have any of the gates in in the individual circuitry, you're going to have this wave.

Erin Gray

So I want to go back Cause you said okay, even if you are undefined in your solar plexus, you will have this wave. Are you saying the individual wave of the 22, 12 and the 39, 55?

Carmen Tuleta

Okay, yes, expand a little bit more on that Individual circuitry. So it's not necessarily yeah, it's not necessarily the the, the gates in this channel, but there is an individual wave to all individual circuitry.

Erin Gray

Got it.

Carmen Tuleta

Okay, so there could be melancholy and it, it. It probably isn't as um, as prominent versus I shouldn't say a wave, but you hear according. Yeah, I guess it is a wave. You hear according to that wave, right? Yeah, and you talk a lot about hearing. So I that's why I wanted to mention that, because you're like, I hear according, like to a lot of where your emotions are. I hear it.

Erin Gray

I hear you say that a lot yeah, I'm like processing right now and thinking, okay, so on the one hand, like I actually physically hear yes or no when I asked myself things and it shows up kind of in my right ear area and I go ahead.

Erin Gray

I do as well, because I have you have, I have seven, right, yeah, okay, and gate 57 is what we're talking about, and also I. What Carmen is referring to is I have had teachers or mentors who have been in a lower vibration on a consistent basis than I have, and I don't receive their advice, mm-hmm, thank you.

Carmen Tuleta

That is the. That's what you're saying, really great. Yes, that is the. I was over explaining and that is the perfect way to phrase that. Definitely, when we say we hear according to our wave, it's almost like this might selective hearing.

Erin Gray

It is selective hearing very much so because and I and I think because if you are at a different vibrational state and this could be you are in a lower vibrational state than you know your mentor or someone else, or a spouse or whatever it might be, or vice versa Then we don't I mean, think about it Like the energy isn't matching, Like that's really what we're talking about, right, Like if someone is is on a fear-based I think about this in the 3d world with finances right, fear-based.

Erin Gray

I think about this in the 3D world with finances, right, Like when, um, I've had some people talk to me about some things and from the 3D world, like bookkeepers and some CPAs and very much fear-based, and I do not agree with that. And so the advice does not connect, because where they are and where I am on a vibrational level is not the same. Yep, it all comes back to energy, right? Yeah, yeah, I do want to say what Carmen was talking about when she was talking about whether, if you were, if you were undefined, so in your solar plexus with the um, either you're, when you are undefined, you just don't have that access to that energy on a consistent basis. It doesn't mean, we don't have that um those emotions, like emotions that we don't have emotions.

Erin Gray

Yeah, like we all have emotions now, whether we're defined or undefined. It's like where is that, is your energy on a consistent basis that you can pull from and draw from, versus if you are undefined in a center or you don't have a channel or you don't have a gate, it doesn't mean you won't have the gate or the channel, it just means that you don't have access to that on a consistent basis. So, okay, let's talk about collective wave.

Carmen Tuleta

So this wave is the 36, 35 and the 41, 30. Um, this is all about experiences and expectations, and it is definitely about how you enter into things, again from a place of joy or from a place of not just doing the thing for the experience, because a lot of times when we have expectations and step into something, the rug can feel like we're getting swept up from underneath us.

Erin Gray

I think another word you could use, that as is expectations or attachment. So think about how does that feel for you, does that?

Erin Gray

feel like when we go in with a certain expectation, we're attached to the outcome right Versus, and I have gate 30. Um, and I have 41 and 100%. I used to sometimes still do right, like you think, like travel was a big one for me, like I would have this whole thing set up in my mind and then I would get there and it wasn't like and it just like complete letdown, disappointment, versus like what Carmen is saying is just going into it for the fun and the joy. And when I say clean energy, what I mean is like detached right or unattached of like I'm just doing it because I want to and let's just see what happens, and I know it's easier said than done, but like just being aware of like where am I entering into things? Because I'm expecting a certain outcome, whether it's in my business, or it's with money, or it's with friendships, or it's with travel, or your spouse or whatever it is, versus just going into it for the love and the joy, like Carmen saying.

Carmen Tuleta

Just because we know our human design doesn't mean that we experiment, doesn't mean that we perfectly ride our emotional wave every time something comes up for us it's, it is a practice, it is an experience, it is. That's why it's called an experiment. Yeah, yeah, right. So, and with this, this collective wave, I like to look at as an experiment, versus, versus like, because when we we make the hypothesis and it doesn't happen, there can be some letdown there. And another thing is to actually feel that disappointment when we do have this expectation and, like you said, we don't want to we are conditioned to not feel those things because you're not supposed to be sad and you're not supposed to be disappointed. So I, with this, this wave, I think disappointment is a big thing If you enter into something not with your strategy and authority and you aren't at emotional neutral.

Erin Gray

Yeah, so the 3635 goes from the solar plexus to the throat and then the 41, 30 goes from the root to the solar plexus. And I'm curious, as I'm thinking about this right now, like you know, this wave experiences high highs and low lows, like how important it is. Here we go back to what I said at the very beginning of like riding the wave right Because I might be on a really high high, like how much of that is my gate 30 and you know, of just being like yes, and like you're going to conquer the world. Versus getting to that place of like neutral in your body, of like okay, let's try it out and let's see what happens, um, versus making decisions on that high high Cause anytime I've ever made a decision from a high high, I've I don't like using the word regret, but I wish I would have made a different decision.

Carmen Tuleta

Yeah, I've had a lot of crash and burn happen here but this is all.

Erin Gray

This is all amazing, right, like it is. It was saying it's just like it's understanding. And you know, I don't like using the word mistake, because I don't ever think that there are mistakes. I think there are just lessons that we learn, like we are constantly learning, and so how can you take every experience, whether air quotes you want to, you know good or bad it, which I don't believe in that either. But like, whether air quotes you want to, you know good or bad it, which I don't believe in that either but like, how can you take each experience and learn from it and like, refine and understand yourself even better and get to know yourself even deeper, versus beating yourself up for what occurred instead of like, oh okay, this is another. This is like evidence for me, right, like this is evidence that when I do this and when I'm in a high, I'm making this decision from a high, um, you know how does it turn out.

Carmen Tuleta

I like to think of this is the last wave, but I like to think of the riding, the emotional wave. So I like to think of it as playing hard to get. So when for me as a projector, when I'm invited into something or get that invited and you have that sense of recognition, I will honestly say can I get back to you? And it almost energetically, is like that people on the other end of that invite almost are more magnetized to me than they would be if I would have instantly said yes or no.

Erin Gray

Yeah, I think that you were talking about that. Let me think about what I wanted to say. I think that you were talking about that. Let me think about what I wanted to say. Oh, having boundaries like something that I have just decided. Like I make no decisions in the moment.

Erin Gray

If you need a decision right now, then the answer is no. And so just like kind of setting up ground rules for lack of a better word or like what are what are my absolute? Like, because I think sometimes we can get caught up, like if you are on that high right, like you can get caught up If someone's asking you to do something and you've been waiting to do something, like that, then in the moment you can be like yes, right, versus like no, I always take a day or two or, depending on you know like what, the, the um, not severity of the decision, but just like how intense, yeah, the temperature of the decision, right. And so I had to set up like I don't make any decisions. I'm not talking about like going out to eat, right, but like if someone's like hey, do you want to do this with me? Like do you want to collaborate with me? I'm like give me the info.

Erin Gray

Typically my response now is like give me the information. Typically my response now is like give me the information, give me more clarity and I'll, you know, ponder it, and then I'll ask my questions and then I'll come to a decision. So just kind of recognizing like where, where are you still jumping into things and like how can you set up some boundaries for yourself so that you don't get into the? Like? I tell my kid I'm like, if you want me to have a friend over, you know, if you want to have a friend over today, the answer is no, like we're going to, because it's a fucking shit show Most of the time it's when 12 year olds try to plan a play date. So, like you know, like planning stuff.

Carmen Tuleta

I like to think of it, too, from a low place, because I know there's been times I have said no from an emotional low, probably because of fear, okay, and then looked back and went damn, I should have said yes, because usually nine times out of ten, that thing that scares the crap out of me is going to be the thing that catapults me further, right? So having that time to sit with it and and just be is huge.

Erin Gray

That's really good, carmen, because you have to get still and silent to ask yourself am I making, am I saying no from fear? Like I always like, boil it down and like is this fear or is this love, right? And if you are making a decision from a, if you're saying no from fear, then more often than not the answer has got to be yes, right, like, oh, yeah, through fear is to go through it, right, right, versus am I saying no because it doesn't feel like a good, I don't't know, whatever it might be Right Versus is this am I saying no from fear? That's really good.

Carmen Tuleta

As someone who deals with, I have a lot, of, a lot of fear stuff come up for myself, and that is definitely one way that I have moved through that. For sure, that's really good, for sure. So there are some ways that I like to. I have started to play with my emotional wave, um, and that I've recommended to clients. Um, just because when you're in it, it's harder to sometimes see or be aware that you're in it. It's easier to look back, right? So something I started doing is using an app to track where my feelings are during things, which has helped. I just started doing it recently and, yeah, it's kind of eye opening.

Erin Gray

Do you want to share the app Like is it um, I can, or we can put it in the show notes.

Carmen Tuleta

We can put it in the show notes. Um, daily beam is the one that I've been using. Okay, and yeah, it's just kind of I can track daily if I want to. Um, yeah, it's just kind of a little bit of an experiment that I'm doing, and there is also some essential oils that you can use as well to help you with that wave as well.

Erin Gray

Do you want to share any ones that you like?

Carmen Tuleta

I don't have my notes with me for that, but we can put some in the show notes if you like. But, yeah, because I find that essential oils will definitely elevate me or, you know, bring me down. So, um, definitely, I know we talk a lot about where we are vibrationally and I find that a lot of times we're way up here when we need to have our feet on the ground, and I think that is a part of all, a part of this, right? Yeah?

Erin Gray

Um, I do want to say too, if you have multiple waves because I do have I have had clients that have the 59, six, and they've had the 37, 40. And so questions to kind of cause basically you've got to ride your wave of the 59.6 and then check back in with your heart, like, is my heart in this? Do I want to do this? And then and so sometimes it can feel that what has been described to me as a lot or like a lot of waiting, because it's almost like you're riding two waves and then you're checking back in and also the feedback that I've gotten is, when they do it here we go back to right, like it, our waves are there too. I don't want to say protect us, but like guide us Right. Oh, absolutely Allowing, like slowing down and not rushing, and really just, it's all about timing.

Carmen Tuleta

It's all about timing. It is taking the time for you to get to that place of, and I think at one time I struggled with not knowing for sure that it was going to be the thing.

Erin Gray

Oh yeah, the ego mind is legit. It still does that to me like seriously yeah, yeah, yeah.

Carmen Tuleta

For us emotionally defined beings, I think that it is because we don't have that for sure knowing like, we don't have that whisper for sure in our ear, we don't have that bodily response. But there's's still, for me anyway, a bodily feeling. As a projector, I still get a light or heavy feeling if it's right or wrong for me, but it doesn't mean that I'm not going to second guess myself because I don't have that inner knowing for sure.

Erin Gray

Yeah, I always say, like human design, use it as a tool. And there are lots of things that I'm like you know what, like you know they talk about how, like sacral beings are the ones that like, feel the pull or push body response. I'm like everybody has it.

Carmen Tuleta

Everybody has intuition.

Erin Gray

You know, it's just how practiced are we at it, how in tune are we with our bodies? Because, like I like Carmen saying, like when I ask her, like she knows if it feels heavier light, right, Like, and and I think the more we practice it, the more we tune in, the better we can get at recognizing. And it is truly. I think it's like an addiction, right, Like we have been so conditioned to be in our heads versus being our bodies that we let our minds drive the show, and so when our bodies give us a different answer than what our minds do, I remember in the beginning I was like flipping shit Cause. It was like it doesn't make sense, you know, like, but intuition doesn't make sense.

Carmen Tuleta

So, but we're so conditioned to use our head. Use your head, use your head, use your head and not your body.

Erin Gray

But yeah, anything else you want to say.

Carmen Tuleta

No, this was so fun Okay.

Erin Gray

If you've guys got questions, holler at us, let us know. Um, I have a. Um, buzzsprout is who hosts the podcast. You can like click on the little link there at the very top and it you can just text message if you want to like ask a question or something like that. So how fun is that? That's so cool, yeah. So, um, Carmen, where can people find you learn more about you, All the things I am on Instagram?

Carmen Tuleta

and I have a website and, yeah, I I am a human design geek. I love all things human design, but I hold it as a tool. It's not the end all be all. It has changed a lot of things for how I move through the world and, yeah, I love helping people with it.

Erin Gray

I'll put. I'll put all of Carmen's information in the show notes. So, okay, thank you. My friends Appreciate it. Thanks for watching. Thanks for listening. Thanks, carmen. Thanks for listening. Thank you for tuning in today. I appreciate you spending your time with me. I created grow, the CEO cohort for the entrepreneur that wants to be in a community with other heart-based entrepreneurs. It's a place where we blend the 3d of money, like understanding your bookkeeping and taxes and investing and how it applies to your business along with the 5d of money, like the energetics and the emotions that you feel with money. To learn more about growthy CEO cohort, you can head over to my website at generate a life well-livedcom and, as always, from my soul to yours.