Episode #203 Tania Ho, Energy Work That Anyone Can Learn

You can’t see energy, so how do you know Reiki and energy healing are doing anything at all? I sit down with Tania Ho, an intuitive soul guide and the founder of Museflower Retreat and Spa in Thailand, to get practical about what energy work feels like, why people doubt it, and how you can test it through experience instead of trying to “prove” it with perfect logic.  Tania Ho, shares how Reiki found her early, why she finally trained at 21, and how that first attunement changed the way she understood life, healing, and her own sensitivity. 

We also talk modalities and daily practice.  Tania Ho, explains what she loves about Magnified Healing, how she uses it alongside Reiki, and why meditation stays at the center of her spiritual routine. If you’re a healer, a lightworker, or simply a sensitive person who feels everything, we dig into energetic basics that matter in real life: grounding your energy, clearing energy, and protecting your energy so your gift doesn’t become exhaustion. 

Then we get honest about the business side of a wellness life.  Tania Ho, opens up about a difficult split with an ex-business partner who was also a teacher, how that shook her trust, and how rebuilding helped her reclaim purpose. She shares what she looks for when hiring or receiving from energy workers, why “walking your talk” beats a flashy credential, and why getting experience at a retreat center before renting your own space can save you years of stress. 

You’ll also hear where to find Tanya’s

 Tania Ho’s retreats, online oracle card readings, and a free seven-card oracle pull designed for clarity.

 Tania Ho, Intuitive Soul Guide & Owner of Museflower Retreat & Spa 

Tania serves as an intuitive soul guide to help you find clarity and inspiration in your next step. Through oracle readings, meditation, intuition development, cacao medicine, energy tools, and more, she guides you to bring your heart, mind and soul back into harmony.

Originally from Hong Kong, Tania now makes her home in Chiang Rai, Thailand, with her family as the founder and owner of Museflower Retreat & Spa since 2014, an all-inclusive vegetarian wellness retreat center and spa offering yoga, meditation, spa and soulful retreats. 

She is also the podcast host of “Embrace Your Sacred Nature”, a soulful, bite-sized podcast offering nourishing wellness practices, energy tools, and heartfelt real-life stories to help you embrace your unique, magical nature.

. If this conversation helps you, subscribe to Ready Set Reiki, share it with a friend who’s curious about Reiki, and leave a review so more people can find the show. What’s one energy tool you want to practice daily?

Transcript

Welcome And Community Invite

SPEAKER_01 0:21

This is Ready Step Reiki, a podcast about Reiki and all energy work, from the curious beginner to the season master teacher, welcoming all systems, all energies, all levels. Reiki is a journey and not a destination. And on this Ready Set Reiki journey, I refer to myself as a guide rather than host if I is too of traveling, learning, and supporting others on this journey as well. With that said, I am your guide, Tracy C. Wright. And this is ReadySet Reiki. Hello, everyone. Reiki, blessings to one and all. Tracy Seawright, Ready Set Reiki. Here it is, another journey. Before I begin, I'd like to invite you to a fabulous group on Reiki Business Collective. Now, this is a Facebook group. It costs nothing. It is a place where you can land no matter where you are on your journey. Maybe you're that curious beginner. Maybe you are that PhD scholar. It is a great place to come on where we share, we support, we help serve. So connecting to each other. Now don't let that business name fool you because there's a lot of variety of those in the healing arts on here. So no matter where you are, even if not even a thought of business comes into your mind, it is a great place to connect with individuals. So check out Reiki Business Collective, Christian Standing Stone. Now back to our journey here. So let me tell you about my next guest, Tanya Ho. Now, she is an intuitive soul guide and owner of Museflower Retreat and Spa. Now she serves as an intuitive soul guide to help you find clarity and inspiration in your next step. Now, through Oracle readings, meditation, intuition development, cacao medicine, energy tools, and more to guide you into bringing your heart, mind, and soul back into harmony. Now she's originally from Hong Kong, but she makes her home in Thailand with her family and is the founder and owner of Museflower Retreat in Spa since 2014. She is also a podcaster as well. She is the host of Embrace Your Sacred Nature. So let's give a warm, ready-set Reiki to Tanya. Welcome. Thank you so much, Tracy. Thank you so much for having me here. It's my honor to be here. Beautiful. Well, thank you for joining me and you know being a part of this journey. So let's begin our journey together. I let our listeners just know a tiny bit about you, but I know there is way more than that. So tell us about yourself.

SPEAKER_00 2:50

Thank you, Tracy. So I'm originally from Hong Kong, like you said, but now I live in Thailand and I'm the founder owner of Me Sua Retreating Spa, which is an all-inclusive vegetarian retreat center where you offer yoga and spa and also some kind of soulful retreats here as well. And that's for myself, as you mentioned, besides being a business owner, I also teach meditation, I do oracle cart readings, I visit cacao medicine circles. So I also do different things, different modalities, um, and to mainly to help bring people back into the heart and to connect with their soul.

How Reiki Found Her Early

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Beautiful, beautiful. So that multimodality, you have a beautiful foundation of Reiki. So when did energy work come into your life? Would you say that the energy found you or did you find it?

SPEAKER_00 3:40

So the energy found me, and it did come as Reiki first. Um, and it was actually it's very funny because it's like seeds are being planted in the journey. And it was like when I was like 14, I was a teenager. I first heard about Reiki actually from my French teacher. It's and he was like, and then he mentioned he talked about aromotherapy, and that's how I started to get interested in armotherapy. He talked about Reiki. I'm like, what is this thing? Because I was like, are you 14? And then it just planted a seed until when I graduated and I was working um in a spa, and I met another um like trainee there, and she was trained in Reiki already. And I was like, wow, like I was so inspired by like, oh, like I didn't have to wait till later. I always thought like it was something I'll do, like, you know, when I get older. I was like 21 at that time, and I was like, oh, okay. I didn't know you can train at Reiki when you're 21. So that's why I went to um do my first level one training when I was 21 and just completely changed my life, completely changed my perspective of life, and just opened this door of like all this different kind of energy work and modalities as well.

SPEAKER_01 4:41

Beautiful, beautiful. So that foundation of Reiki, and now you're currently doing something which I'm really fascinated about magnified healing. So, can you tell me a little bit about that?

SPEAKER_00 4:53

So, that is um also another type of energy healing modality, and I actually learned it mainly to practice on myself. Um, so it is similar to Reiki in a way. Uh, Reiki is more my understanding, Reiki, you're channeling the energy from the universe, whereas magnified healing has a little bit different angle where you're co-creating that energy because you already have that defined spark within you. So it's just a little bit different in that sense, but it's still energy work, um, still energy healing. Um, and for magnify healing, what I really love because in the practice cell, there's a daily practice you have to do. I mean, Reiki, actually, you also can do a daily practice on yourself. With Magnify Healing, it's more, I feel like when I do it a daily practice, it really kind of helps to prepare myself for the day on an energetic level. So that's what I do. Um, but I still do both personally, maybe sometimes on my dogs, sometimes on my kids. Um, so both are great.

SPEAKER_01 5:47

Beautiful. So beginning that Reiki journey at 21 and owning a spa since 2014. And you work with all these wonderful modalities. So as you're working with the public, as you have people come in and doing all the amazing things that you're doing, what are you finding is some common misconceptions about energy work?

SPEAKER_00 6:08

And I feel that misconception, like I feel it's it's lifting the veil. So I think there's uh less and less misconception, probably, hopefully. Yeah, but I think the very beginning is really people say, oh, well, like, you know, they don't really believe in energy work. You know, there's no you can't see it. And so how can you prove it it works? But since then, I think you know, there's a lot of scientific studies that have done on research on Reiki, for example, and now this whole science of the field of quantum physics explaining how frequency and energy works. So people are getting more and more used to um the idea of talking about energy and frequency, but very beginning, you know, people said, Well, I can't see it, so how do I know it's real? Right. And I always tell people then you know, you don't have to believe it yet, you just have to experience it, be open to experience, and it's all about really feeling it. And everybody can do, I think that's the first one. The second thing that I would say is everybody can do energy healing because sometimes there's a misconception, only the very gifted ones can do energy healing, or very gifted ones can do can see energy or can feel energy. But actually, everyone can do energy healing. It's just we sometimes we actually do it very so unconsciously, like when we get a headache, we put our hand on a head, or when we get a stomach, we put our hands on our stomach. You're actually doing energy healing for yourself without really knowing it. Right. And so I think for me that I've seen the misconception of is these two parts.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

Absolutely, right? You just have to experience it, right? And walk along the path and be open, right? So you are an intuitive soul guide, you help those find clarity to help them find their next step. But what's the biggest challenge or struggle you have faced in your journey?

A Hard Split And Rebuilding

SPEAKER_00 7:53

So many, so many challenges. So much. Yeah, when I started, so when we started the retreat center where I was, I was actually with um my ex-business partner. I had a business partner who was also my retreat teacher at that time. And that was uh we started actually building displays 2012. And we opened this place was under a different brand name. Um, and then after that, we realized we have different, you know, ways of you know running things, and so we decided to split the business. And it was not like a peaceful kind of split, it was not a very kind type of separation uh at the beginning, anyway. And so that was the big challenge for me because she was also my teacher uh for a while, and it was really finding my own path then because when I was had to ask myself, like, oh, why I wanted to do this? What was that? What was my intention for truly creating this place? And first I was following my teacher doing this thing, and now I'm like, oh, I have to stand on my tone two feet. So what am I supposed to do? And who can I trust? And because I was at that time, it's almost like I couldn't even trust myself. I was like just putting all my faith into my teacher, and so now I don't have anyone to tell me what to do. What should I do? And so that was actually a really that was a big, I would say, my very first starting night of a soul for me. Right. And luck, luckily, I did meet my husband at that time. Um, and he really supported me and also a few other friends who understood what I was going through, and you know, they were supporting me and they were showing me the different perspective because I was having this one perspective of like, oh my god, I don't know what I was doing. I, you know, I'm not good enough. That perspective, whereas they were giving us me different perspectives so that I could really come out from there. And so that was a very big challenge for me, but also to able to, through that, I was able to find um my purpose then. Okay, why was it I wanted to open this place? And to really, we went through this whole rebranding, but it's also for me actually the journey of looking to okay, this time for me to express what is it I really want to do here with my life now.

Choosing Practitioners You Can Trust

SPEAKER_01 10:11

Right, right, right. Well, one of the blessings of having a uh all-inclusive vegetarian wellness retreat center and spa that offers all these beautiful modalities when it's time for you to get an energetic tune-up, or even when you hire people, we can we can spin it this way is what you're looking for. What are some qualities that you look for in energy workers?

SPEAKER_00 10:37

Um well, for me, it's so important that they walk their talk. And I know it's kind of hard when you first meet somebody, it's it's not easy to tell. But I think as because I do work, you know, as energy workers, you also get a feel anyway, and you just have to really trust your intuition. Um, that's one thing, you know, I'm huge about like trusting your intuition. And so trust that, you know, it's not so much about the credentials, it is important, but I feel like the experience itself. And maybe um when I we so it's besides me, there's only one other teacher here, and she's been here for almost 10 years already. So she's also become my friend now, and she does Reiki and she teaches yoga. Um, and it's just to experience a little bit of the treatment that they do uh when I was doing the hiring and to experience it that way as well, and just to feel into it when they talk about it. How do they describe it? Are they being open to other modalities? Are they open with growing? I feel that's very important for me when I'm looking into energy healers, whether I'm hiring them or if I'm just receiving like healing from them, like they are also growing, they're also human beings, they acknowledge they're also human beings, and they are also learning, they're also the student in life that they are also constantly working on themselves. I think that's very important too. It's not they're just giving all the time, but they're also learning and they're receiving healing for themselves as well.

SPEAKER_01 12:10

Beautiful. Thank you for that. Well, many people in the healing arts often have a goal of wanting that wellness center, right? A spa in these retreats. So, as someone who is coming to the beginning of their journey in the healing arts energy work, what advice would you give them if they're just getting inspired and saying, yes, I want to have that wellness center, I want to have that spa, I want to do what exactly what she's doing. So, what pearls of do you have for them?

SPEAKER_00 12:43

Well, if they're just starting in the beginning, I would say go and work with one first to get experience. And I feel that that actually applies to any other industry, any other jobs if you're looking for or to plan for, you know, if you want to create something for yourself in the future is to be exposed with this experience. It there are a lot of retreat centers all over the world, and sometimes they are hiring, sometimes maybe you can do an exchange or you can volunteer there, so you can be there and experience how it works, especially on the business side as well. There's a big part of it, the operation, the marketing, that part, besides you know, the actual practice and you know meeting different clients, meeting different people. And so there's it's really good to have that experience, even maybe it's an unpaid opportunity to go there just to experience it for a month for yourself, or it could be overseas. So I think like the paid thing, sometimes it might you know put people off because you know, I understand people we all have jobs, uh, we don't all have bills to pay. So we need something. Um, but so then paid thing can be also maybe it's a weekend thing if it's something there's something in your local area that you can go to, or maybe it's a one-week, you know, you can make it the holiday, uh, like a volunteering type of holiday, so you can experience that for yourself, or maybe you know, you can go as a guest and to experience yourself as on the user end, and then from there we always get different kind of perspective of we know what we want, and we also know this is not what for me, this is not for me. And so that's it's very important. Like, we have those two, like we know, okay, this is what I really want to look for, and this is okay, now I have experiences. Maybe this thing is not so much for me, or now I know what kind of people I want to work with, what kind of people I don't want to work with. Um, yeah.

Retreat Offerings Books And Contact

SPEAKER_01 14:36

Instead of jumping right in and renting a space and you're in a contract for like a lease for a year or three years, right? So it makes really good sense to start out and just see if that's the environment that is for you. So very good advice. So, what books do you recommend?

SPEAKER_00 14:53

So, the book, the number one book I always recommend people is called The Artist Way by Julia Cameron. I don't know if you heard about it or you read about it before. Yes. So I absolutely love that book and I love to recommend the book. It's all about you know go out your creativity, but in a spiritual way. And because we are all artists in our life, we are all co-creators in our life. And it is such an easy read because, as you know, it's actually a journal kind of exercises incorporated into all 12 chapters. So you read one chapter, which is very short, and then there's all these general prompts for you to work with for that next week. And then that's how you go through the book, and that's the book that I would highly recommend everybody to read.

SPEAKER_01 15:35

Beautiful. Thank you for that. So, what other services do you offer? Do you offer classes, events? You said retreats, trainings. Let us know what you offer.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

So at Muse Power Retreat and Spa, we offer all things you said. Mainly people come here for retreat. So we have a yoga retreat. So people come here for an experience of yoga, meditation, or they can come for like a spa holiday because we also have the spa parts that they come for the massage, but they also can join different kinds of wellness activities. So those are the main things. And when I say wellness activities, within that, we also have a different type of classes, like different types of meditations, or maybe different kinds of exercise, not just yoga, there's like cycling, or there's also kind of a little more fun class, like cooking class. I also, for example, here I teach um how to read oracle cards for beginners. So that's also another thing. And then if for people they want to go deeper into healing work, we also have offerings when people can experience Reiki treat as a treatment, or they can actually learn Reiki here with my other teacher. Uh, they can learn Reiki level one and two uh with her here. So that's also another possibility. So there's actually, yeah, different things we offer here. I think the things that we offer here are mainly really focused on the emotional wellness part. So emotional wellness and on the energetic health as well. So this is the two main things that we focus here.

SPEAKER_01 16:57

Beautiful. And this is all in person, correct? No online services.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

So these are the ones that I mentioned in person. I my personally I do also offer online services. So I do online oracle cart reading, I also and uh I also do something called intuitive guidance session for light workers. So for people in the healing hearts specifically, um, it is like I call intuitive guidance, so it depends on what they need support with. Usually I love to share different kinds of energy tools. Um, because when I was learning Rapey at the beginning, I never got to learn different kinds of energy tools to how to ground my energy, to clear energy, to protect myself on an endogenic level. So these are the tools that I teach now as well. Um, here in person, but also online. It's more of a one-on-one uh private sections.

SPEAKER_01 17:48

Beautiful. So, where can we find you if we want to get in touch with you for those online? And how do we get in touch with you if we want to maybe uh organize a retreat or book a retreat?

SPEAKER_00 17:59

Yeah, definitely. So um my personal website is tanyoho.me, t-a-n-i-a-h-o.me, and there you can come and find uh services I talk about, online services, and also there's a link to come into Musefower Retreat, or you can also come to our website, musefowerretreatum.com, and that's where you will find the different uh retreats that we offer. You can definitely rent our space as well to offer your own retreats or your own trainings here as well, uh, here in Thailand.

Listener Questions On Purpose And Practice

SPEAKER_01 18:30

Beautiful, beautiful, exciting. I love it. Well, that ends the first part of our journey. I'm gonna guide you to the second part, which are questions from listeners and Reiki students. So, number one, how can a soul guide help someone to find their soul purpose?

SPEAKER_00 18:44

Well, thank you so much. And I love um the word guide. And I know you actually use it for your podcast as well. You mentioned yourself as a guide, and I see myself totally as a guide too. And my purpose as a guide is actually to bring people back to their heart and their soul. And so it's not directly helping people to find their purpose, but when you're coming back to your heart, coming back to your soul, paying attention to your intuition, what I find is that people start to pay attention to embrace their gifts to remind them we all have superpower. And from that, it's the gifts or the sensitivities are kind of like breadcrumbs. I tell people, it's like a breadcrumbs leading you, and they think about all the skills and your experience and the talents that you have, and they kind of can lead you to your purpose why you're here. So it's a journey, if we all know, to discover your own life purpose. Um, but as my role is really allowing people to come back to their heart and to their soul, because in this world we're so used to being in our head all the time and thinking and planning um and thinking, oh, what am I here to do? Whereas for me, I feel it's really an answer to come from the heart, not so much from the head.

SPEAKER_01 19:52

Yeah, absolutely. And I mean, even with the title of master, I don't feel like a master, I feel like an energy coordinator, right? It's just we're learning and you know, supporting each other. So we're all a part of this. And, you know, I shared right before we began about all the different systems and all the different things. And I feel like we just scratched the surface just a little bit, and there's a whole lot still to be learned in the world. So no number two, what inspired you to create and host your own podcast, embrace your sacred nature?

SPEAKER_00 20:25

Well, thank you for that question. And um, I've done a season one on my podcast, and actually now I'm on a pause, and now we'll start season two next year again. And uh yeah, you know, for many a few years I already have an idea for a podcast, and it was always like, Wow, there's so many other podcasts out there. Why would anybody care for another one? Why would I have to go through, like put myself through all this work and do another one? And uh again, it was really coming from the soul, coming from the heart, right? The heart, the soul is calling you. And it was from last year or one year from today now, uh, that I co-facilitated a retreat with my friend here at Museflower. Uh, we call it Sacred Rest with Nature. And it was from then, from myself, that I heard my own, we call the soul whispers, and mine is voice. And so voice became my word of the year. And I know that podcast is there because it was an idea that I already had, like for a few years ago. And I was like, okay, I just I need to do it now. So I sign up for an online course, learn how to do it. And I always, you know, I have been guests on other people's podcasts, so kind of start to know how the flow is. And for me, and I think about what I want to talk about is really helping people to embrace their sacred nature, meaning embracing their sensitivities, knowing that their sensitive sensitivities is their superpower, and to see that as their gift, and from you know, to see the potential that they have within themselves.

SPEAKER_01 21:49

Beautiful. And I like how you took your own advice because you tried out podcasts first before starting your own. And I always talk about people because um People say, like, I'm gonna do my own podcast. Great, but I recommend you be a guest a couple times, a few times first, just to see. Is your podcast still available for people to listen to?

SPEAKER_00 22:13

Yes, definitely. Yes. So there are 13 episodes, so people can still definitely go on there. There's still a lot of good information on there. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:22

And that's on all different podcast sites, Spotify, iHeart, etc.

SPEAKER_00 22:26

Yeah. So mainly on Apple Podcasts and Spotify and iHeart.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Yes. Perfect. Perfect. Number three. Of all the energy tools that you use in your practice, which one do you use in your own personal life?

SPEAKER_00 22:40

Yes. I've actually been thinking of this question while I was walking my dog this morning. I was like, I use all of them because I only teach things that I have experienced myself that works for me. And so I know that if it works for me, then I have the confidence to share with other people. And so, and I every I'm sure every practitioner, even you, you know, we all have this like big toolbox of like different tools we have, and we use them whenever there's like different situations, and you have to get like different tools. Um, uh the one that that's always for me that I do every single day, and I I don't know if you see that as a tool, I'll say is meditation, um, because it's just such a basic, you know, foundation of my own spiritual practice. I do my own spiritual practice every day. So meditation is the base. I told you I do uh megaphyte healing, they have a daily practice that you do, so that's also the one I do. Um, and ground, like I talk about grounding my energy, clearing energy, protecting myself on the energetic level. Um, these are the things that I do every day as well. Um, whether I'm teaching, having a session with someone, or if I'm just working by myself, um I always try to like do these things as much as I can.

SPEAKER_01 23:54

Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that. Well, that was our last question. And as we've been talking, is there something that you have forgotten or something you want to share? The floor is yours.

Free Oracle Cards And Closing

SPEAKER_00 24:04

Well, thank you so much, Tracy. I do want to share one more thing um on my website that didn't get to talk about. And it was related to at the same time with the podcast, because um, when I had the idea to create the podcast, because it was an idea that I had a few years ago, there was something else that was like, it was also an idea for from a few years ago now, and I had to do it and it's creating my own Oracle cards. Now I have a free, it's free, completely free. It's just a seven Oracle card decks on my website um that you can use. You can ask what is my message for today, and then you can click and you can get your card, and it's completely free, meaning you don't even have to sign up for anything, and you can just use it. And for me, it's really I want to do it as an offering for people to um for clarity, you know, to look for clarity and to experience the card deck. And the seven cards are based on the seven sacred directions, so it's called the seven sacred directions. So um invite everybody who is here, if they want to just find out what's your message for today, want to pick a card online, you can totally go to my website to do that.

SPEAKER_01 25:08

Beautiful. Thank you for sharing that with us, and thank you for taking time out of your very busy schedule, business owner, right? All your amazing modalities that you do to join me on this Ready Set Reiki journey. I really appreciate you. Thank you so much, Tracy, for having me again. Beautiful. All right, my wonderful listeners, if you'd like your question featured on Ready Set Reiki, reach out www.ready setreiki.com or check me out online and send me a message. I'm Tracy C Wright, and this has been Ready Set Reiki.