Accessing Spiritual Gifts by Facing Emotional Wounds with Sara Adler

What if the key to your deepest healing lies in confronting your most painful emotions? Join me for a profound conversation with Sara Adler, a spiritual mentor whose journey from trauma and addiction to spiritual awakening offers invaluable insights for anyone seeking transformation. Sara opens up about her early life challenges and how a chance encounter with an energy healer, facilitated by a caring friend, became a turning point in her life.

We navigate the complex terrain of emotional healing, discussing the importance of persisting through the discomfort of confronting past traumas. Sara eloquently explains the paradox that true relief comes only by facing our emotional pain head-on. By creating a safe, non-judgmental space for ourselves, we can embark on this messy yet rewarding journey toward personal growth and lasting change. This episode highlights how emotional and energetic imprints from our past shape our reality and relationships, urging us to address and transform these deep-seated issues.

As we continue, Sara reveals how embracing her intuitive gifts and committing to continuous inner work has led her to live authentically and love herself fully. From setting boundaries to integrating conflicting aspects of her personality, her story is a powerful testament to the importance of self-love and authenticity. We wrap up with a celebration of gratitude and the elevation that comes from meaningful conversations, leaving you inspired to embrace all facets of yourself and seek your highest potential. Don't miss this deeply inspiring episode that promises to elevate your journey towards personal empowerment.

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https://saraadlerhealing.com

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Transcript

Speaker 1 0:03

Welcome to the opportunity. I'm your host, hila, and I'll be leading you through the difficult conversations that we need to have in order to feel embodied, empowered and expressed as no one other than ourselves, than ourselves. This podcast is an invitation to rise up to your soul's knowing that everything on your path is, in fact, an opportunity to embody more of yourself, to refine your frequency and to align with the vision that you've been gifted. Remember, you're not here to be anyone other than yourself, and the only way to plug into the magic that awaits you on your path is to plug into who you authentically came here to be Ready for more. Let's get into it, for more. Let's get into it. All right, so I'm here with Sarah Adler, who is a spiritual mentor, helping individuals facilitate the transformation that they need on their paths to align with their highest potential and their highest timeline. And first of all, sarah, thank you for joining me.

Speaker 2 1:27

You're so welcome. Thank you for having me. I'm so excited to be here with you.

Speaker 1 1:33

So today I kind of just decided that we would explore Sarah's journey, cause I think that a lot of people who are trying to surrender to their own transformation and their own process look at everyone you know that may be teaching or sharing and think that you had like this incredible free pass to just like not go what they're you know going through or not experience the difficulties that they may be experiencing. And I think it's really important, when we share our journeys, to show other people you know how possible it is. Not only that, but also what's required. And when you share, like how you navigated certain specific experiences on your journeys or you know, even like just transcending patterns which we still experience, no matter where we are on our journey, and blocks and all those things, it can really help them have their own little breakthroughs, to access that part within them that's required to take the bigger leaps and make the bigger decisions.

Speaker 2 3:05

I love this so much because I am so in agreement with everything you've just mentioned. I think it's so important to share just how challenging, just how much struggle and also how worth it is to continue to push through the struggles and push through the challenges to get to the side that we all see on Instagram and on social media. I am loving this moment, loving this conversation.

Speaker 1 3:39

So how did you start? Did you start Like can you tell us the beginning of that catalyzing moment where you realized that you couldn't take, being in on the other side of you know, the life that you're meant to live, and that point of realization where you had that, that moment of clarity, of noticing that you weren't living your life?

Speaker 2 4:09

so you know it's interesting because I I didn't even have that moment per se. It wasn't even a clarity moment of like I have to or I want to is more be the better way to say it like I want to transform or I want to get to this other side. I didn't even know there was another side. To be perfectly honest, I was at the brink of going down a path in life that I saw was going to lead me into some pretty scary stuff. The first portion of my life, my childhood, all the way through teenage into my late 20s, was really, really rough. I had experienced some childhood trauma in my family. I experienced a lot of loss from the time I was 12 all the way through my late 20s. It was just about every year or year and a half somebody was passing away and I didn't have much guidance around me. I didn't have a role model to lean on. My parents were there, but they were not equipped for present or, as most of ours, to know how to support me or help me in the way I really needed. We didn't have connection to faith, religion. There was nothing like that going on. We didn't talk about therapy or getting support. It was just like felt like I was in the wild wild west of life. It was just like felt like I was in the wild wild west of life and I was just getting out of a pretty rough relationship really emotionally abusive and diminishing and I was starting to create a bit of a different life for myself.

Speaker 2 6:04

And maybe six months post that breakup, my mom was then diagnosed with terminal cancer and it was like the straw that broke the camel's back. I lost it. I absolutely lost it and I started to down spiral, making some really poor decisions and getting myself into some really sticky situations. I was heavy into drugs, I was messing around with all the wrong people, I was floundering, completely floundering, and I didn't even, I didn't even choose to like, oh, I got to get myself out of this.

Speaker 2 6:48

One of my friends saw what was going on with me and was like you know, we got to do something about this. It's like I don't know how you feel, but I've been talking to this energy healer. But I've been talking to this energy healer, spiritual person, and I think she could really help you and at the time I was like energy wearing is nonsense, spirituality is nonsense, like I didn't want to hear about God. I didn't believe in anything, but I was in such a low place and hearing this reflection of like something's got to shift here or you're going to send yourself into a place that you won't be able to get out of, I was like, what do I have to lose? Let me hop on the phone with this lady.

Speaker 2 7:48

We get on the phone and she starts talking to me about angels and energy work and chakras and auras, and there's ways to transform and there's ways to make it through what you're feeling. And I was taking it all with a grain of salt, taking it all like there's like a. Honestly, I was like this seems like a crock of shit. All right, I agreed to do a distant energy session with her, so she was working on me from afar. We weren't even like in session or on the phone and I remember it like it was yesterday. This is 10 years ago now. I remember it like it was yesterday.

Speaker 2 8:23

I was in the gym working out with the same friend who connected me to her and I was like something's happening. I could literally feel something going on in my body. I could feel something going on in my energy. I couldn't believe what was going on and literally the next day I woke up and it's not like everything changed by any means, but I felt this much relief in a space where I wasn't feeling relief at all and I was like, okay, some, something happened, maybe this is real, let me keep going on this journey. And I literally just stayed with her.

Speaker 2 9:14

She is now, she's my mentor, this woman. I've been working with her for a decade and the journey sort of just unfolded naturally. It was like the relief was like the carrot I kept chasing. I want more relief, I want more relief, I want more relief and it led me down this path of transformation, of awakening to my faith, of awakening to I awaken to my clairvoyance, I awaken to like I can see energy, I can feel energy, I can work with energy and this entire sort of complete inside out of myself and my life unfolded so your transformation came from pain, then 100%.

Speaker 2 10:06

Yeah, yeah.

Speaker 1 10:10

My mother always used to say have this saying where she she sees it more towards like Christianity, because she's Christian. But she would always say if you don't come through love, you come through pain. So you either have the choice to come through love or you're going to come through pain. The people who have, you know, chosen paths I, I really believe that there are people who have very narrow paths in this timeline, in this, in this life, and those people they can't really stray too far. It's like there's the intuitive nudge and then there's a huge boomerang effect where something horrible will kind of like pull them back on the path Right, and then there are people who aren't really affected by it. So they dabble in this type of stuff but they're not really. Yeah, it's not necessary for them. But there are people who it's very necessary for, and I think that a lot of those people are the ones that usually come because of pain.

Speaker 2 11:20

I could not agree more. I you know hindsight, I think, is one of our one of an incredible tool. It's an incredible tool to look back and go wow, wow, wow, wow, like thank God. Literally some of this stuff happened. And as I look back on my own journey and then to now working with clients for the last six years, I see it with every single person that comes in front of my space there's so much purpose and pain, there's so much meaning in pain and had I not experienced the challenges I experienced, I would have never gotten to that place of you know, unconscious desperation to be open to change, to be open to something outside the box, to be open to getting the help that really helped me. And now it allows me to connect so deeply with the people I work with and just other humans in general, and the relatability, the resonance. It's like the backbone and foundation to me of sort of everything when we use it, when we use it properly. Yeah.

Speaker 1 12:34

So I have a question for you because of all the pain that you've experienced, all the pain that you've experienced when you started coaching or guiding others, did you ever experience a sort of low tolerance for people who were not decisive? Tell me more not decisive, about just like that weren't like committing to themselves, or that were maybe bullshitting or, you know, dabbling in distractions. Who weren't all in?

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Speaker 2 13:19

in the beginning of my coaching journey. Absolutely I there was definitely, I think you know. I look back though I think I think there's an element of ego in that from my seat, where right I'm, I got through all this stuff and I, like, went all in on the journey and transformation and everything that's required inside of it. I had some pretty big traumas and big stuff that went down and then coming across you know people with lesser trauma or lesser challenge or lesser this, and they wouldn't commit all the way or they wouldn't be all in on themselves or the journey. I'm like what the hell? But as I've continued, a newer compassion opened up inside of me, a newer level of grace opened up inside of me.

Speaker 2 14:14

To really look to the point you were sort of just speaking into, where you know everyone is on their own path and their own timeline path and their own timeline and who am I to say when it's time for somebody to go in, all in or not? I think the bigger thing in me now is I have such a visceral experience of a life of pain and now a life of literal joy, and such deep appreciation and gratitude and fun and ease. I still have challenges, of course, but the way I navigate the challenges, the way the challenges help me, the way it just sort of enhances my life, I want that for every single solitary human. And now, instead of it being frustrating, it almost breaks my heart. If you would just commit, you would just decide that you are worth this journey and you are worth this effort and you are worth everything that it's going to take to allow the transformation to happen. You can have this too, and I just want to like shake up.

Speaker 1 15:23

What would you say helped you in that journey of like um, because it's such an interesting experience, right, like you experience the transformation and the relief, like you mentioned, and you're kind of like crossing over into this new way of being, in this new way of experiencing life. But because of your past that may have hardened you or hardened your heart, there is still, like this, let's say, toughness, right, that's there that made you a survivor and kind of like that, that individuality within you that you needed for a really long time. Um, what was the process in softening for you?

Speaker 2 16:20

that's a great question, a messy, messy one. It was messy, really really messy. I quit my healing journey like three or four times inside of it because the hardened part of me, the walls, the barriers, the survivor side it would take over at times and feel so scared to. I think feel was the biggest fear I had to. If I let these walls down, if I let this armor down, what is beneath that and what am I going to have to feel? And I think my mind was stuck too and and like believing that if I, if I drop the armor and I feel these things, I'm going to feel these things forever, they're never going to go away. I don't want to have to deal with that. So I'm done, I've reached my mark.

Speaker 2 17:35

And what sort of was my fuel to keep going at the harder times and when I would quit, to get back on was feeling the complete sort of polarity or antithesis of the two experiences. So, as I was starting to feel relief, like that would be motivation, motivation, motivation. I would come up against a barrier or a fear or one of these sticky moments, I would quit and sort of fall back into the old way of living, the old way of thinking, the old way of feeling through and it was awful. It was just awful.

Speaker 2 18:02

Every single time I let go of the journey, the pain and the discomfort of sitting back in the thick of it was worse than the pain and discomfort of continuing to go on the journey. And I like for me, I needed those moments of seeing what it's like when I'm not continuing to get me to get back on the journey and then eventually, at some point, the quitting stopped being an option. The, the visceral experience of how crappy life was for me without my journey, without the anchor of healing and spirituality, and continuing to go into myself, continuing to let my walls down. The visceral experience of the pain was it was like no, it's just, I'm not, I'm not accepting that anymore, I'm not doing that anymore. And it created this whole new motivation, this whole new sort of fuel that this is way worse than this, so we're going to keep going.

Speaker 1 19:10

It was hard yeah, it's pretty hard, um, and I love how you you you just shared how actually facing your internal difficult emotions that you didn't want to face actually is what softened you.

Speaker 2 19:33

Yes, yes, and let me say too, right the part, the part I think our mind grabs onto, like I was mentioning that things. If we start to feel all of that, it won't go away. It will be the new reality, it will take over, the floodgates will open and I'll never stop crying or I'm never going to get out of this. It's just a trick of the mind I've learned it doesn't go that way. It's the complete opposite.

Speaker 2 19:58

It's in the resistance to feeling the depths of ourself that that pain stays there forever. But when we allow the walls come down, allow the emotion to work through, allow the pain to sort of do its thing and work its way through us, that's when we get the release, that's when the relief comes in. The story has an opportunity to change, the mind has an opportunity to change. The mind has an opportunity to change. The body has an opportunity to change because we're not in this resistance and inner conflict with ourself anymore. The wall isn't there anymore, so it opens up for the really beautiful stuff to transpire. It's the complete opposite of what I thought was going to happen.

Speaker 1 20:43

Yeah, yeah, and it's energy that's trying to move through us. Yes, it's the, the clinging on of the mind, the need for control, the inability to feel safe, that creates the emotional stories, that create the blocks and the patterns and the stagnation. But if we just learn how to move that energy through us first, how to receive, right, because I think that a lot of people move through processing, wanting to just rid themselves of, like, whatever they're going through, and that's not how we start. We start always by receiving, you know, with unconditional love and a non-judgmental presence which creates the safety and experiencing. Because if we want the other side of the spectrum, which is what you were wanting on your journey, right, what we all want, then we have to experience the polar opposite.

Speaker 2 21:46

Yes, yes yes, yes, yes, and it's so true what you just look into, you know, think, like when I sat down for my so, when I started with my mentor, she, we started with distant, distant work and then eventually I went and saw her in person for sessions and it was my first time ever sitting with someone like that and doing this kind of work and I vividly remember this moment in time. And she's like, you know, I work with God and I work with angels and like how do you feel about that? And I was like no, don't, please. No, I don't resonate with that, please don't use the word God with me, I will turn off.

Speaker 2 22:29

And she so lovingly and so beautifully sort of nurtured me through helping me break down my walls around faith and my walls around God and my walls around source and this idea of unconditional love and this idea of unity with everything here in the universe, this idea of soul, this idea of higher self, this idea of our energy fields. I had so much resistance to all of that and she that's where we started to your point Like she really helped me break that all down so I could anchor into that truth which then, exactly as you just expressed it, created this safety, this thing to hold on to or to stand on top of. As I started to work through the deeper levels of pain, being so connected to my faith, then, and this like no, this is bigger than me. The pain is here for a reason bigger than me. There's purpose behind it, there's other energies to connect to and feel into that feel softer, that feel safer, but then allow the darker parts to not be the main event, but not take over.

Speaker 1 23:44

It's exactly, it was exactly as you just I think that's so beautiful because our relationship with the universe and with life is directly correlated with our relationship with our mothers. So the fact that you had experienced, you know this thing, as you said, as you mentioned, the thing that broke the camel's back, the straw that broke the camel's back and then met this lady is, I mean, that couldn't be more of a synchronistic entry into your onto, onto your path.

Speaker 2 24:24

So I just got chills all through my body because it is so true, it is so, absolutely true. You know I look when I say hindsight, it's like one of my favorite tools. I look back and you know, the thing I'm about to say ruffles some people's feathers sometimes. But I miss my mother every single solitary day. We were so close and she was such a big part of my life and it's taken me a while to be okay living without her here. Simultaneously, her passing has so much meaning and purpose for me because it was the thing. It was the thing I needed. It was the thing my whole family needed. It completely transformed my father, me, everyone who was connected to her there's to me now.

Speaker 2 25:20

There's so much beauty in this moment of her soul seeing bigger than we could see here in the human realm. For, like I have gratitude, I miss her. I miss her so much and I would give anything for her to be here. Yet that transition was absolutely the catalyst for me becoming me and stepping into the work I was here to do, stepping into my soul, getting out of hell, creating a heaven for myself. I don't know that any of this would have happened had she not transitioned, and I think, I think we can get so lost at times in these, in these life experiences, thinking like, like, why did this happen? Why did this happen? When we use the moment, we use the pain, look deeper. Typically, what I see now is these moments in time are are for such reason, reason of beauty, reason of growth, reason of transformation absolutely.

Speaker 1 26:34

My journey started with my father's death too, so I mean, there were like prerequisites that I was kind of dabbling into with medicine, ceremonies and other spiritual things, but that was absolutely also a catalyst for me because I think that.

Speaker 1 26:52

Well, actually, one of the books that I was reading during his passing because he also had cancer was the Tibetan book of living and dying. I don't know if you've ever heard of it or read it, but one of the beautiful things that they teach is that you don't know if you've ever heard of it or read it, but one of the beautiful things that they teach is that you don't know how to live unless you know how to die, and nobody really has, unfortunately, a relationship with death. In the Western world, we live as if we were to live forever. We live as if everything is permanent.

Speaker 1 27:32

We don't see the beauty of impermanence. We make it mean something bad, something tragic. We make it, you know, we even turn our backs against the experiences that are so created, because we feel wounded by something ending, and so we create a bad story out of it. We don't respect impermanence in the way that it's meant to be respected, in the way that you respected it, where you used your mother's passing as a catalyst. You used it, for you honored her life. By doing that, you know so beautifully said.

Speaker 2 28:13

So I agree wholeheartedly, and I think it's so true on the it's, because it is it's, it's sort of contained on the Western side of the world, which is where I am, that everything you just spoke into. We fear death so much but then we start fearing life. We don't even realize that that's going on. Appreciating so beautifully the way you just said that, appreciating the impermanence, respecting the impermanence, seeing the beauty, the gift that death can bring, that endings can bring, allowing them to illuminate life even more, allowing them to illuminate ourselves even more, allowing them to bring such presence, is the biggest thing that has sort of like awakened inside of me through this that you know I now believe so deeply and I've had some visceral experiences both with plant medicine and without, which sort of like anchored it in even more, of seeing energy around me, feeling my mother's soul, having visceral communication with her through energy, like the veil became so thin and we were communicating.

Speaker 2 29:38

We have spoken with her on the other side and it was this incredible opening of everything is here now. Everything is in the present all the energies we want, all the souls we want all the gifts we want, all the wisdom, we want all the everything is here and becoming so present or using, like I want to be with her. And so, in order to be with her, I got to be in the present, in order to appreciate everything that's here, so I don't miss it because it's not permanent. I got to be here in the present and it became more fuel, another catalyst, like I got to do more work to get myself here and now to do more work to get myself here and now there's. There have been so many lessons, so many gifts, so much growth gifted to me honestly, through death I'm so curious.

Speaker 1 30:44

What is your astrology? I'm like what is happening here you are, yeah you're like, yeah you're, you're here to master the shadows. It's very obvious.

Awakening Psychic Gifts and Energy Perception

Speaker 2 31:00

I've been. I thank you for that recognition. I appreciate it so much. I've seen I saw that in myself a few years ago I'm like I I had to walk through the dark forest and learn how to master the dark forest so I could shine a flashlight for people and be like, look, not so bad. We're like, look, this is how we get out of here, we can get out of here. We can get out of here and actually there you know the, the awakening too, for myself, of of the beauty of duality and the beauty of polarity. And, like you know, we do not know the light, we, how can we know the light unless we experience the dark? How can we know pure joy unless we have sat in the depths of despair? We need this relatability inside this inside earth. Outside of earth I don't know a little different, but here we need it so, so much. And so I just I really appreciate the recognition. I am a Sagittarius sun, sagittarius rising Capricorn moon. That's about it. That's about all I know from my memory.

Speaker 1 32:14

Do you know if there's like a house in your natal chart that has holds like a lot of planets? I don't know enough? Okay, no worries, I got it, I can tell you planets I don't know enough? Okay, no worries, I gotta look into it. Yeah, because I'm like, oh my god, there's like some I don't know, some like scorpionic energy or some, oh sure, wealth house stuff or I have to dig deeper into it. Yeah, so I'm curious about, uh, your experience with your gifts being activated this was a journey all up in itself.

Speaker 2 32:56

Um, again, hindsight, I look back and like before I was involved in any of this work, I would. I always had this intrigue, this interest, like, oh, I want to sit with the psychic. They're like, oh, someone tell me about the future? Did I believe it all the time? Like no, but there was this. I was always intrigued by it. I wanted to go into crystal stores. I wanted to go in places like that and whenever I would, the people at the store, the psychic I would sit down with they'd always say something to me like you don't understand your power, like you don't know what you got going on. This was some I never. I never believed it, I never took it in, but I would, as I look back, I would always get some sort of comment like that cut to.

Speaker 2 33:44

I'm now a couple years into working with my mentor and she was doing some energy work on me inside of a session and she was talking about what she was doing and I was telling her I could see it and she's like what it's like thing you just said? I can, I don't. I can see what you're. I can see what you're doing. I can see what you're talking about. She was like interesting. And so over the next year or so in sessions she kept sort of probing me like you feel that? Can you see that? Can you feel that? Can you see that? I'm like, yeah, I feel it here. Yeah, I feel it here. Yeah, I feel I see this. I see I was starting to see energy and one session it just like came over me where I just looked her dead in the eye and I was like I think I'm supposed to do what you're doing. I cannot explain this, but I think I'm supposed to do this. She was like you sure seems like I can't, yes, and so I went to the woman who started her on, like tea. So we work with, we work with a pendulum, I work with a pendulum. Looks like this I use this tool to connect to my soul and to connect to spirit and just gives me a bit of confirmation about the information I'm seeing.

Speaker 2 35:10

So I went to the woman who essentially started her on her journey with her pendulum and it was this like four day workshop to start to open up, and I couldn't believe what was happening. Like I kept asking myself am I making this up? Am I imagining this, is this real? Because I would ask questions, my pendulum would move, I was getting answers, I was seeing information. It was blowing my mind what was going on. I questioned it for a really long time. I didn't believe what was happening. I didn't think it was real, even in my own head and my own body. It's like this has to be my imagination. Can't this, can't what is going on? Until I don't even remember really the moment where I was just in full acceptance.

Speaker 2 36:00

But it was this process over time where I couldn't stop doing it. It was very similar to the healing journey. If I would step away from practicing my gifts and stepping into it, everything went haywire, my life would go, would go left. So I was like, okay, I have to keep going. And eventually, over time, I think I just surrendered to like no, this is real. And I think to adding in, like you know, I started to hold sessions for people to practice and they were feeling things they were seeing it was working for them, like, maybe that, maybe this is real, maybe this is real, maybe this is real. And now I'm in a space where I have full, 100% belief that, yes, yes, the way I see, the way I feel it's a bit unique, it's a bit different, but it's absolutely real, and I have some sight that I didn't know was in there.

Speaker 1 37:02

And can you share some of the things that you notice?

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Speaker 2 37:17

Maybe like some reoccurring things that you notice that your gift points out in people, like energetically or Energetically. Yeah, I think the biggest thing is is, as human beings, we don't quite grasp or understand the power of energy and just how how real it is and how much it can affect us and block us and create such a distortion in our sight of ourself and of life and of others. And so really starting to awaken to, as an example, when we have experiences any time in our life but we'll stay, but we'll go into childhood for a second when we have experiences that are more challenging or more painful or more emotionally charged and we do not know what to do with that, as a kid, our parents don't know what to do with that. For us, these energetic pictures get created inside of us from that experience and it becomes this filter, this lens that now we're looking at life through this held picture. It's held, it's like the way I see it is like a literal frame inside of people's mind and inside of like what they're looking at. And this frame could be you know, I'm not worthy, or nobody loves me, or everybody is awful, or people can't be trusted.

Speaker 2 38:55

And now this energy is here and we're looking at life like that and that becomes our experience, not because it's actually true, but because we're seeing it through this lens, through this picture. And it's been remarkable to witness what happens when we clear the picture out and we get the frame out and we get the distortion out and suddenly it's like someone turns the lights on. You have a whole new lens to look at life and to look at yourself through, and so I think the biggest thing across the board is helping, really helping people understand a lot of the way you're viewing things. It's not entirely, it's not absolute truth, it's not entirely accurate, it's a distortion, it's a picture, it's a movie, it's a held experience that can be transformed, that can be released, that can be completely cleared out, so you can see yourself and life through a more true perspective do you believe that it's a disservice for someone to go straight into empowerment work without exploring this inner landscape and questioning their perspectives and questioning certain habits or patterns that they may have?

Speaker 2 40:28

100%. I love that question.

Speaker 2 40:31

Yes, I absolutely do.

Speaker 2 40:34

I think we also, as humans, do not quite grasp or comprehend or understand fully the power of our ego. Mm-hmm, the power of our ego and so go is skipping this step, bypassing this step and going into just wanting to build confidence, just wanting to build empowerment. I see it happen all the time. I I'm experienced this myself where I've tried to, you know, when I've tried to go away from the deeper work, away from cleaning things up, the ego will grab this stuff. We miss cleaning up the perspective first, if we miss getting more clarity from truth, from the universe's lens, from God's lens, from our soul's lens, we miss all that and we go to the empowerment piece. The ego will snatch it and suddenly we become a little holier than thou or a little grandiose about ourselves. A little grandiose about ourselves, and we will go into supreme avoidance and denial about what's actually happening inside of us. And then it creates all of this yuckiness in our relationships and how we relate to people, because we're not really being honest with ourselves but I'm I'm sure it doesn't feel good.

Speaker 1 42:08

Oh no, because the eco definitely creates a lot of contraction in the body, yeah, contraction. So if it's clinging and controlling and micromanaging and projecting and, uh, just playing into very toxic separation and judge, you know, like all the things, because while the ego, someone's ego, may feel icky to us on the outside, inside it feels even more detrimental. So true, so it's like a really toxic relationship, right, like it'll tell you that you're the best, like eating all the things, and then it'll like literally tear you down the next minute and then tell you lies about everyone around you, because it you need to be better, but then you'll have imposter syndrome. It's like a mental bipolar mindfuck right.

Speaker 1 43:14

Yeah, yes, but the ego is just there for survival too. So I think that that's something to note. Um, if we don't know how the ego communicates with us and feels inside of our bodies, we're going to have a really hard time navigating this plane, because we live in such a ego dominant culture. It is so ego dominant and our ego believes that it needs to do something as well to survive and win. So if we don't keep it in check, right by, like what you said, doing the inner work, that never ends.

Speaker 1 44:01

And I think that that's where some people get it wrong. They think, well, I'm going to do six months of inner work, I'm going to be healed and I'm done. Never again. Right, but I don't think that that's the point. The point is fall in love with the inner work, because it's never going to end. We are like the first generation to do it. How do you think that that healing is going to integrate within one lifetime when it's been going on for lineages? Integrate within one lifetime when it's been going on for lineages is it's not how this works, right?

Speaker 2 44:29

so I think that I believe that we truly thrive when we learn to love the inner work 100, 100, I like to say, you know, like there's no finish line, there is no end here, there is no end here at all.

Speaker 2 44:47

And so beautiful, to your point, like we're a soul first, the human comes second, and to think that our soul too.

Speaker 2 44:55

You know, I hear people talk about past life work and past life progression, and, like, I see some people thinking and believing our soul has lived like one life before, or maybe just two lives before, and the reality is, our soul has lived hundreds of lifetimes, hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of lifetimes, and the pain we feel is so much bigger than this life experience. It's just getting played out here for us to have an opportunity to work on it and to be a part of the soul story, to help the soul on its journey and it's never ending, you know, until we become an ascendant master, which got a long ways to go, we're, we're not done, and I think too, though, like and I'm sort of feeling it in you and your journey, like there comes a point where the work becomes just a part of life and it becomes a part of the lifestyle and for me, now I'm in a space where I enjoy when a trigger comes up.

Speaker 2 46:01

I enjoy when something now is in my face or there's a moment that I need to go deeper, because I know what the other, I know what's on the other side of it, I know what going in is going to lead to. It's going to lead to more expansion, it's going to lead to more joy, it's going to lead to more growth, and so the journey has changed from being so daunting and like when is this going to end? To such an, such an enjoyable and fun experience.

Speaker 1 46:35

Yeah, I mean inner work is self-love. I don't think anyone understands that. Like so, we take time to connect to our partners and our friends, and Like so, we take time to connect to our partners and our friends, and you know our career that we love. So why aren't we sitting down and having intimate conversations with ourselves, with our own internal landscape, with our inner parts, and trying to find out what they need and you know, being devotional and giving that to ourselves and it's it's so interesting how also right it's like the healing industry has labeled that as inner work.

Speaker 1 47:14

it's work right right, right, right, when in reality it's just self-love. Yeah, it's I think.

Speaker 2 47:25

I think the healing, personal development you could say like the masses of it have really done a bit of a disservice for some of the narrative that's getting played out to your point, because I think too, on the self-love train, you know, there's too many discussions about self-love being simply the illumination of all that's good and let's just find all the good that's in there and just bring that forward. It's sort of like we're the bypassing and the. That's where our ego gets involved and it creates actually more discomfort inside of us, because the truth of self-love is no, let me find the darkness. I have to find the darkness and fall in love with the darkness. Then I am actually showing myself true love, then I am actually embodying this idea of unconditional love.

Speaker 2 48:22

If we really listen to what that word is, it means there are no conditions. So I better find every condition I think I have that makes me unlovable and illuminate it as lovable, committing and devoting and really making it. It isn't work, it isn't something to be put off and like oh, I'll get to it when I can. This relationship with self and this, this commitment to going in and continuing to go in, gets to be the top priority, because it it, then it trickles down into every single area of our life.

Speaker 1 49:10

It infused into everything yeah, it's the core of everything, yeah, so I want to ask you one last question, um, what is the repetitive pattern that you are moving through in this lifetime?

Embracing Authenticity and Self-Healing

Speaker 2 49:31

so good, we all have one. We all have one, so that's so good. Um, well, there's a, there's a few, that few themes that I've, I have going on in my life, but the one that's up in my face right now that I'm working through, that continues to show itself to me, is my deep people, pleaser, people, pleaser. She, of course, just wants to feel love. She's the part that wasn't heard, wasn't seen, was she's the one who was in experiencing the pain? I see her as she's the one who went through the struggle and wasn't seen in the struggle and internalized so much of her experience as her fault that she was the cause and so, in order to sort of blanket that for herself, she turned into. Well, let me show you that I'm not the cause. Let me show you that it's not my fault by completely abandoning self and attempting to please everyone around. It's shown up in so many different ways where I've really had to heal and then learn how to use my voice, how to speak up, how to say no, how to set boundaries, how to discern as well for myself, who's say appropriate for me to be either in friendship with or in relationship with. She still shows up today and I find myself fearful at times to speak my truth, the fear of hurting someone else's feelings or having them think some type of way about me. It's. It's something I try to really pay attention to.

Speaker 2 51:36

I still, like I said, I still work with my mentor. So she's I go regularly for sessions, I go regularly to talk with her. We are in constant communication so I can get her eyes always on what's going on with me. Because we miss it, I miss it, I don't even realize sometimes that it's happening. She has to sort of like sometimes that it's happening. She has to sort of like hello, what's going on? You know, people please there and like, oh, crap, crap, didn't even see it come forward. So it's a, it's a continual.

Speaker 1 52:08

They've come leaps and bounds, but she's, she's still here so I'm curious about that because it's really interesting, right, like usually the personality that we embody, the natural personality that we embody. It's not that we're trying to embody anything, just our expression is usually different from our internal expression, right, because we're not our processes. Our processes are an internal experience. So when I see you, I don't see the people pleaser, right, when I hear you, I don't hear the people pleaser. So I'm assuming that there's internal conflict between the one that's strong, right, the one that had to survive and, like, had to to, yeah, be vocal, set boundaries, you know, pave her way, and then the small one that needs to please, needs to step on eggshells, needs to be careful. How do you experience that and how do you experience that and how do you work with that?

Speaker 2 53:19

I mean, I'll be so honest that it's here in the background right now, even inside of this conversation. I it's funny because I the reflections I receive from people are so beautiful these days and it's so you know the way you speak and the way you show up, and then I'm like if y'all knew how hard I've had to work to be able to talk like this and like not be apologetic with every single word that comes out of my mouth and not have this energy behind there. Um, it's been it. This piece has literally been the work of my lifetime and will be, I think, the work of the rest of my life. I've gotten to a space where I think I trust what you're seeing here more than what I'm feeling behind the scenes.

Speaker 2 54:14

I flip-flopped or put more emphasis on this energy so that even behind the scenes, right now, there's a little voice back here Like are you answering? Like did you say the right thing? Like you should have said this, but you should have said that, wait, you're talking too much. Wait, no, no, no, hold on. There's a, there's a little voice back there, but I know her so well now and I know, I know she's just in fear. I know I don't and I don't. I don't believe her anymore. She's there, I hear her, I'm holding her lovingly behind the scenes, but I don't believe the question she has. I don't believe the perspective she has. I don't believe the perspective she has. I know that it's distorted, I know that it's coming from here and so I trust this more, and so I've. I really work to just put her at the forefront and tend to her in the background, not allow her to to the best that I can not allow her to take over.

Speaker 1 55:23

Yeah, I love that.

Speaker 2 55:25

That's really beautiful because some people just want to get rid of it. And I don't know if that's the experience.

Speaker 1 55:30

The experience is to create safety with the polarity, with the duality. So I love how you express that and you know, if it wasn't per everyone's ego, we would all admit that we have that little shadow person trying to increase the fear levels in our nervous system or whatever. However it wants to manifest through us, and everyone has that. And I think that acknowledging it, the way that you do allow someone to truly embody authenticity, it's holding the duality in that honest light that actually allows the frequency of authenticity to be integrated it's so true.

Speaker 2 56:20

It's so true. It's like authenticity I think it's in the self-love conversation like it's. Authenticity is not just us being our best self. That's a lot of crap. It's allowing ourselves to be the whole of it the bad, the ugly, the light, the dark, the confident, the fearful, the empowered, the insecure, the. We all have it all going on all the time.

Speaker 1 56:48

Yeah so, sarah, to close, would you like to channel, transmit, offer up a message to everyone listening, maybe something that the collective needs to hear in this moment, or something that a soul that's listening, passing by and hearing your voice needed to hear.

Speaker 2 57:13

I would love to. That's so beautiful. Thank you for the invitation. Let me tune in for a second. That's so beautiful. Thank you for the invitation. Yeah, let me tune in for a second. Let's see. Let's see what wants to come through.

Speaker 2 57:39

There's something here like, first and foremost, you are so much bigger than your pain. You are so much bigger than your challenge. You are so much bigger than your struggle. You're so much bigger than your struggle. Your pain, your struggle, the obstacles you're up against inside of yourself are the gateways to your freedom. They are the gateways to your relief. They are the fuel for your life, and you don't have to believe in any of this right now.

Speaker 2 58:37

You don't have to believe in any of this right now. You don't have to believe even in the transformation. You don't have to believe it because sometimes we don't, when we're in so much pain. All you have to do, all you get to do, is choose. Choose to take a step, choose to keep going, choose to put in the effort, the time, the space, and know that the continual steps you take, even if you don't believe that they're taking you somewhere, even if you don't know what's going on, the continual steps that you take will lead you out, will lead you to freedom, will lead you to the transformation that you know you deserve. You know you are worthy of that. You are here to experience. You can do this. You deserve to do this. Just keep going.

Gratitude and Elevating Existence

Speaker 1 1:00:07

Thank you, that's beautiful. Thank you so much for being here with us today. It was a very grounding, real and expansive conversation and I hope everyone listening was able to truly receive all of this on a cellular level and embrace themselves, even if it's just 1% more than they did yesterday. And I'm going to go ahead and add Sarah's links to her social media and website in the show notes below. If you want to contact her, follow her, sarah. Thank you so much. This was awesome.

Speaker 2 1:00:57

Thank you, you, thank you for the honor and privilege and so much fun to be here with you that was our episode for today on the opportunity.

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