Macy - Behind The Music

On this episode we welcome 24 year old Welsh Pop Artist Macy to Creative Wrexham's Podcast. Macy originally from Abertillery in South Wales, has been actively pursuing her music career since she was 11, with her professional career gaining momentum from 2020 onward with her debut single "Cinema".  

Macy's impressive notable achievements have included a BBC Radio Wales A-List placement, a BBC Radio 1 Breakfast Show debut, and performances at Focus Wales and the Principality Stadium to name just a few. We welcomed Macy to discuss her impressive career, performing here in Wrexham within Focus Wales, and her collaboration with an LA based producer for her new single based on Wrexham AFC's dramatic growth and resilience as an underdog style anthem.

Recorded on 9th April 2026, Macy joined us on the phone from her home in South Wales. Listen to her new debut single 'For The Game'  here  

 Catch Macy's Instagram Here 

Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Croiso, and welcome back to Creative Rexum, the podcast where we shine a spotlight on creative talent, stories, and journeys from across the UK and beyond. I'm your host, Simon Jones, and today I'm joined by an exciting emerging artist who's been making waves with her music, her storytelling, and her authenticity. Macy is a pop artist from South Wales, creating bright, unapologetically feel-good pop with sharp storytelling and infectious energy. Writing and recording much of her music from her bedroom, she first broke through with her debut single Cinema in 2020 and has since developed a bold sound across multiple releases. Originally from Blino Gwent, Macy is passionate about representing her roots and encouraging young creatives to explore music and self-expression. Macy has received multiple BBC Radio Wales A-list placements and made her debut on BBC Radio One's Breakfast Show. She has performed at the Principality Stadium, Bathta Cymru, Focus Wales here in Wrexham, and many, many more. Macy recently released her new single for the game in April this year, which is an underdog anthem inspired by the community of Wrexham AFC and their story of resilience. Joining us today on the phone from all the way across the valleys in South Wales, it is my pleasure to introduce Macy to the Creative Wrexham podcast. Macy, welcome to the show.

SPEAKER_04 1:34

Hey, thank you so much for having me. How are you?

SPEAKER_00 1:37

I'm very good. I'm very good. Thank you so much for taking part in the uh the podcast with us today. Um, first of all, congratulations on your new single as well. Um you're very welcome. Uh for anyone listening as well who might be discovering you for the first time, tell us a little bit more about yourself and and how you began.

SPEAKER_04 1:56

So I'm a Welsh pop singer, songwriter from a tiny town called Abitalhiri. And I've been singing well, since the age of around 10 years old. Um, and it all started because I entered a competition in primary school called Stars in Their Eyes, and I went as Jesse. I went as Jesse J and I sung Price Tag. And um yeah, I ended up winning the competition because I was always a dancer before I was a singer. Um, and then like that competition came up. My dad was like, Oh, you should enter it, you know, just go for it. And then I ended up winning it, and I was like, oh, this is quite cool. Like I quite enjoy performing, you know, and people like singing along.

SPEAKER_03 2:37

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 2:37

Um, and then from the age of 11, then I entered um a competition called Open Mic UK, and I got all the way to the O2 arena in London, which was crazy because I think I was so young as well. I think that was just the point where I was like, no, this is what I want to do for the rest of my life. I think if I wasn't to perform at the O2 at that age, it probably, you know, it it might have not been different, but I think that was just like the point where I was like, no, this is where what I want to do. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:04

Were you writing your own material as well?

SPEAKER_04 3:07

So, yeah. So after I entered up with Mike, I got picked up by one of the judges called Mike King, and he set me up on like a development kind of platform in London. So I ended up like writing and going into the studio from the age of 11 until about 13, 14. And I was like just like writing like some songs, and I would never show any anyone them. I was so young, but um, yeah, it was such a good opportunity, and it got me writing from a young age. So yeah, yeah, I've been writing really since probably the age of 12.

SPEAKER_00 3:38

Fantastic.

SPEAKER_04 3:39

Yeah, so then obviously, like I went through school, got my GCSEs, um, kind of focused on that. And then I went to college and I just knew that it wasn't what I wanted to do. I just I just needed to, you know, become that full-time kind of pop star. I finished college early and then just went straight into studios and started and started writing music for real. And then I released my first um single cinema in 2020.

SPEAKER_03 4:06

Brilliant.

SPEAKER_04 4:07

Um, and then ever since I've been releasing and performing, yeah, it's been a crazy ride.

SPEAKER_00 4:12

Yeah. So, what were you studying at uh a college originally?

SPEAKER_04 4:16

So I was studying drama, music, and sociology.

SPEAKER_00 4:19

Fantastic. So you've always been in that creative kind of industry, creative discipline, and that's been a perfect kind of step into music as well. How did you then get connected with with Wrexham? Because I know we've seen you here for Focus Wales, and how did you bridge that connection with Wrexham?

SPEAKER_04 4:38

Yeah, so I've performed at Focus Wales, I think, um, four times now, and it's always been like amazing. I've even gone to the film festival, which was super cool. I got nominated the one year for my music video, which was so fun. Um, yeah, so like, you know, I've done quite a bit in Wrexham, but basically I had some mutual friends that was on a pit on Pink's tour, you know, this the singer Pink.

SPEAKER_03 4:59

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:00

Um, and the producer that was with Pink at the time needed a Welsh vocalist on this track that he had written for Wrexham, you know, for the football team.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:11

And one of my mutual friends was like, Well, I know a girl, she's from Wales. Like, she, you know, she's been to Wrexham, she knows, like, you know, the score, football. Yeah, yeah, very good so. Um, and yeah, just then like they set me up on a call with Garrett. He's from LA. And yeah, he basically wrote the track for Wrexham. So, like, it's my vocals on it. So it was a little bit different for me, to be honest, a different process, because like I wasn't involved in the writing process, but I really like related to the track.

SPEAKER_03 5:40

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:40

Um, so yeah, I was set up on a call with Garrett, and then yeah, it just happened. Then I was in the studio the day after I learned the song in a day.

SPEAKER_00 5:49

So this was for the single for the game. Was this right? Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 5:53

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 5:54

So that was written.

SPEAKER_04 5:55

So by Garrett Kinkle, he's um an LA producer.

SPEAKER_00 5:58

Fantastic. So they they approached you, or did your friend then approach you to them?

SPEAKER_04 6:04

Yeah, so obviously then my friend kind of said, I know Macy, and then he like checked me out and he was like, Yeah, that she's like cool, and we would love her on the track, and then yeah, we just hooked up that way then. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 6:16

So that's quite impressive to have somebody with such a huge background of performance with you say pink.

SPEAKER_04 6:22

Yeah, literally. And it's crazy because um I've actually recorded with one of his friends, Ollie um Sweda, in one of my tracks that gone to Radio One, but obviously I didn't know the connection was there. And we were on the Zoom call, and he was like, Yes, so I've got Ollie Marland on the track. And I was like, Oh my gosh, I know Ollie.

SPEAKER_00 6:39

So that that was how it all got kind of connected together for releasing the scene.

SPEAKER_04 6:43

Yeah, it's really like a small world, it's it's crazy.

SPEAKER_00 6:45

It was released only recently, wasn't it?

SPEAKER_04 6:47

Yeah, it's it's been really, really good to be fair. I've had some really positive feedback, and like um the women's football team has used it on like some of their Instagram reels. Um, and yeah, people are loving it, you know, and people are relating to it. Because obviously I was a little bit worried, like not being from Wrexham, but like when I heard the track, I was like, no, I get the story. Like everyone's like an underdog, you know, and yeah, it was just really cool. So yeah, I've had some really positive feedback from all over, really.

SPEAKER_00 7:13

Fantastic. Are you filming a music video for this for this track as well?

SPEAKER_04 7:18

Well, I've actually recorded like shorts, so um I love a music video, but there's so much like so much money goes into a music video. So I've kind of got a strategy of doing like shorts at the minute. So like I upload like the reels to like TikTok and Instagram. So yeah, you can check them out because they're all they're on Instagram and and YouTube.

SPEAKER_00 7:35

Fantastic. Well, I'm sure there's lots of creatives here in Wrexham that would love to work with you and create a music video for you in the future, hopefully. Are you a Wrexham fan yourself? A Wrexham football fan?

SPEAKER_04 7:45

Well, to be honest, I don't really follow the football. I'm just gonna be totally honest with you.

SPEAKER_00 7:50

That's okay.

SPEAKER_04 7:51

Um, but like my dad and my granddad's and like my boyfriend has always followed the football, so I know how like passionate like that sport is. And like, although I'm not a football player, the re like the Wrexham story is like so great because like I feel like we're all Wrexham. Like, do you know what I mean? Like, I feel like we all lose hope, and then every last one of us has had a moment in our lives when the like the chips are down and we've been on our own personal losing streak, and the dream feels more like it's fading fantasy.

SPEAKER_01 8:18

Like very much so.

SPEAKER_04 8:19

I feel like we've all had a moment when we've just needed someone to believe in us, and I feel like that's what's happened to the Wrexham team, and like you know, it's yeah, and it's just yeah, it's really powerful.

SPEAKER_00 8:29

So very much so, and like you said, it's an underdog anthem inspired by the community of of Wrexham and its story of resilience, and from being someone who's born and bred in Wrexham and seeing the changes of the of the team and the club, um, from you know the very low ends to now you know climbing up to nearly the premiership, which is yeah, which is amazing, and the story of of how it's changed and how it's changed within the community as well, and it's engaged people more. And I think on our last podcast we were talking about most of us have either been away on holiday somewhere or we've been in a different country. And when we mentioned we're from Wrexham, people know the name and people know and they look yeah, which is bizarre.

SPEAKER_04 9:09

It's huge, it's it's huge in America as well. Like it's yeah, crazy.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Very much so good. Very much so. I know myself I was in Turkey and I had a baseball cap on with the with a logo, and people were already pointing and asking questions, so it's it certainly has a has a has a big presence now in the in the world stage.

SPEAKER_04 9:28

100%, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 9:30

Very much so. Talking about your kind of creative process, Macy, how does uh a song usually start for you? How do you create that song?

SPEAKER_04 9:40

I love collaborating, so um, I write a lot of my music when I'm in the studio with like my producers, but I've got like a notes section on my phone where I kind of just like write random words down, like if I'm out shopping or if I see something like on the teddy, like I'll just write it down in my notes and then that might become like a title. Um, and like if I've if I've been given the track beforehand, say like the producer's already created like some beats, like I kind of write over that and I top line. So yeah, I kind of feel like I've got a few different processes depending on um you know who I'm working with. But I would I would say probably top lining over even like YouTube. I um kind of type in like to YouTube, like um, give me a track that's like a pop track, and then I'll write over that kind of thing, and then take that to the studio.

SPEAKER_00 10:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:27

Um, yeah, there's so many processes in my life.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

I guess a lot of people ask whether you write the lyrics first and then get the music, or do you get the music and beat first and then write the lyrics to it?

SPEAKER_04 10:38

Yeah, so I usually usually get the, I said usually three times then. I I usually get the track and then I write like a top line over it. I'd probably say that's my go-to kind of process.

SPEAKER_00 10:48

Yeah, okay, fantastic. And do you find you talked about using YouTube, do you find that inspiration from other artists or everyday life experiences around you, or is it mainly visual kind of or audible pens out for you?

SPEAKER_04 11:02

Um, yeah, I would say, like with the YouTube kind of thing, I type in like say if I'm feeling like Sabrina Carpenter, I'll type in like give me a Sabrina Carpenter, like type instrumental. So it's not like it's not Sabrina Carpenter's track, it's like similar beats, you know, or like I go into Logic and I like put a few beats down. Um, but I love like watching films and like writing a like writing a song about that as well. Like, yeah, I feel like my inspiration comes from many different ways.

SPEAKER_00 11:30

What would you say would be your your favorite track to be featured on? If you could have any track that would be featured onto a soundtrack or something like that, what would be your your ultimate track to be on? Um, as in like one of my tracks or yeah, or just now or in the future, what would you want a one of your tracks to be featured on?

SPEAKER_04 11:52

Ooh, that's really hard. Um I would say like probably maybe Love Island or like Netflix. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 12:01

Because I know a lot of people aspire to have a Bond theme, you know, they always want to write a song that becomes a Bond theme.

SPEAKER_04 12:07

Do you know what? I wish, I wish I was like, I feel like Olivia Dean should be the next um the next Bond theme. Right, yeah, but yeah, some of her tracks are like awesome, and I think they would really suit the vibe. But I would love that. I'll manifest it, I'll write a bond scene. My boyfriend would love that. He loves James Bond.

SPEAKER_00 12:24

Definitely, definitely. It's something to aspire to, definitely. For yeah, if Billy Eilish can do it, anyone can do it.

SPEAKER_04 12:29

Exactly.

SPEAKER_00 12:31

So we talked a little bit more about your kind of creative inspiration and processes and to how you perform. Uh, and I know you've performed a lot, obviously, here in Wrexham and on a huge stage as well. How does it feel to you performing your music live, especially when those songs are so kind of personal to you?

SPEAKER_04 12:48

Yeah, I think like performing is my favourite side of um being an artist. Like, I just love getting up on stage and just telling my story and seeing people sing sing my songs back, like it just makes me so emotional. I'm like, wow, this is crazy.

SPEAKER_00 13:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:03

Um, that's definitely my favorite part.

SPEAKER_00 13:06

What would you say has been your most memorable performance? Because I know you've had quite a lot between BBC Radio One and Focus Wales, obviously, uh, to name just a few. But what's been your most memorable performance?

SPEAKER_04 13:18

I think um performing at the Principality Stadium was just crazy.

SPEAKER_00 13:23

Yeah, I can imagine, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 13:25

That like, yeah, the stadium, it was just it was just mad, like singing my tracks to like 60,000 people. It was just mad. It was just like a dream come true, and I was like, whoa, this is just crazy. I love it.

SPEAKER_00 13:36

And how many tracks did you perform in the Principality?

SPEAKER_04 13:40

Um, so I I did around, I think it was about five tracks overall. It was um for the judgment day. So I was like, I performed before the game and then in interval as well.

SPEAKER_00 13:50

Fantastic. Wow. I can imagine that must have been a little bit scary. Have you ever performed on a stage that big before?

SPEAKER_04 13:56

Well, I performed at the O2 when I was like 11, but like being 11 years old, I didn't really like care. Like I was like, this is just stage. Like I had no fear, but I think actually performing my music in a stadium was um quite quite nerve-wracking. Yeah, but I absolutely loved it. I think the nerves just like as soon as I stepped on the stage, the nerves just like went away.

SPEAKER_00 14:18

Fantastic. What would you say are your kind of biggest challenges that you faced as a as an independent artist as well?

SPEAKER_04 14:25

Um, I would say coming from like a small, a small town is um super hard. And I feel like the funding is, you know, it's not the best. Like I've been super lucky with funding in the past, um, more in lockdown than anything, so like that was such a struggle. Um, but I would say just coming from like a small town and like funding is probably the hardest being an independent artist. I think everything like else comes naturally. I've got like a good like team around me and sport network, but yeah, I would say like funding.

SPEAKER_00 14:53

How do you find that then balancing that creative side? Then if you're talking about like promotion, building your brand, you've got a team of people behind you. Um, if somebody's listening in that wants to move into the music industry, how would you kind of advise them to kind of build that as an independent artist?

SPEAKER_04 15:11

Well, to be honest, I'm super lucky because my dad's always like kind of dealt with like the promotion side of things. So I feel like you should always reach out to like family and friends and see if they want to get on board because you know they'll do anything for you if they if they're true. And I think that's yeah, that's one of the ways that that's one of my tips I would give is just ask your closest first before like reaching out.

SPEAKER_00 15:33

Yeah. What about like funding? Like you said as well, and finding it difficult for funding. Is that for promotional work or is that for touring? Is that for equipment?

SPEAKER_04 15:42

Yeah, I would say that's more like for like promotional, because like like I said, music videos, they are spanny and you know, it's not cheap to, you know, get good content. So I would I kind of do it all myself now, like that side of things. Um, you know, I've just got like a good phone and I kind of just record my shorts by myself. But again, like if you've got creatives around you, like if you're in college or uni and you know that you know there's a good there's a good um photographer, like definitely reach out to them, you know, and promote each other as well. That's kind of what I've really done.

unknown 16:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 16:14

And what kind of social platforms would you say are more preferable, like Instagram? Uh TikTok, obviously, is is huge at the moment.

SPEAKER_04 16:22

Yeah, I would say Instagram and TikTok 100%. Like I never really got on board with the TikTok thing until about two years ago because I just didn't really like, not that I didn't like like it, but I was like, oh, it's it is like a lot of work goes into TikTok. I'm not gonna lie.

SPEAKER_00 16:36

Yeah, like and too many dances.

SPEAKER_04 16:38

You really yeah, and it's crazy that I can spend like hours editing a video and then I put one up that's like 30 seconds, and people love that one more than the one I worked the hardest on. It's crazy. Yeah, I think it's brutal out there.

SPEAKER_00 16:49

It's very yeah, it's it's the attention span, isn't it? I think if you look at the professional dashboards, as they call it, most people lose their interest after about four or five seconds because they're scrolling through and looking at the next one. So um even watching videos on the speed 1.5 now, most people do to get more information in as quick as they can, you do that as well. Yeah. Um sometimes so yeah, I mean, using those kind of social media platforms is is a great tool, and I know a lot of people have been spotted by using that. So kind of in back in when you got kind of um spotted and you got kind of found for your artistry. Um do you think that would help people moving into the industry now, more so?

SPEAKER_04 17:33

Yeah, 100%. I feel like it's it's one of the biggest like platforms out there, isn't it? Like Instagram and TikTok. I feel like you should be on all the socials, to be honest. I don't use Twitter as much anymore. X, it's called X now, isn't it?

SPEAKER_03 17:45

Yeah, the hex yeah.

SPEAKER_04 17:46

I kind of just like focus on Instagram and TikTok and the most, because I feel like that's where most of my fans are. So I feel like you need to find like your platforms, and it could be X, it could be Facebook, you know, but I feel like once you found your platforms, you just gotta focus on them and um yeah, keep creating the content.

SPEAKER_00 18:03

Very much so, very much so. What do you think you've learned about yourself, Macy, through your journey in music so far?

SPEAKER_04 18:10

Well, I've like kind of grown up creating music, so I feel like that's been massive. I've kind of matured, like, you know, with the sound and and like the lyrics and everything. So I feel like I've just really found my sound and like who I am through music as well. Um, because it's been like such a massive part of my life, and I I know I wouldn't be able to be without it, so yeah.

SPEAKER_00 18:32

So we talked earlier a little bit about you being here in Wrexham and performing in Focus Wales. Um how did you find the the kind of creative process with so many different artists here? Did you know a lot of the artists from South Wales and Mid Wales? Um, or did you collaborate with anybody? I know a lot of the artists here tend to network together and and create tracks together. So, how did it work for you being here that many times?

SPEAKER_04 18:58

Yeah, so I feel like Focus Wales is one of the best like festivals where like Welsh artists can just like unite. Like, no, it's honestly amazing, and like you know, all the network opportunities that you can like kind of go to throughout the day and like you for the film festival, there's so many opportunities. Um, and I just love Focus Wales for that reason. And yeah, I've um I've collaborated with a few of the artists throughout the years, so it's been nice to kind of like hook up with a few when you're at when you're in Wrexham as well. And at the end of the night, we always got the karaoke bar.

SPEAKER_03 19:32

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 19:33

We absolutely love the karaoke bar. That's where like everyone goes. So, like, yeah, we've all like performed and then we all like meet up there at the end. And I just think, yeah, like I said, we all just unite and like it's just amazing.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

Fantastic. I know it's a really, really good festival, and I've worked for with Focus Wales um here at the university of Wrexham University, where the the studio that we that we provide for some of the artists to have a music video and music performance captured here, and then I've worked in the town centre as well at some of the venues um uh as a venue manager as well, helping some of the the artists.

SPEAKER_03 20:06

Oh, amazing, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 20:07

So it's been quite an interesting process and meeting so many bands from across the world, really, from from all different kinds of disciplines of music. It's it's a fantastic event, and I can't wait for this this event coming next month.

SPEAKER_04 20:20

Yeah, no, and I was lucky enough to um travel to Canada as well with Focus Wales. I forgot to mention that one. Um yeah, it was it was so so cool. Me and um Ogan went out to Canada, I think it was two years ago now, um, to do some showcases with Focus Whales. So yeah, I was super lucky and so grateful to Focus Wales for giving me the opportunities.

SPEAKER_00 20:40

Can you remember where you performed in Wrexham when you were here?

SPEAKER_04 20:44

Yeah, it was the rocking chair last year.

SPEAKER_00 20:46

Yeah, that's a great venue.

SPEAKER_04 20:48

I love the rocking chair, and my first year I performed in like the market. Is it like the um yeah in T Power Teapows?

SPEAKER_00 20:56

Yeah, in Teapows.

SPEAKER_04 20:57

Yes. I performed there and then where did I perform? And then I performed, it was like a hotel. Is it the the hotel, the wind?

SPEAKER_00 21:06

Well, the Wednesday, the Wednesday Arms.

SPEAKER_04 21:08

The Wednesday Arms, that's the one. Yeah, I performed there the year before then. And then I come to the film festival um the one year. I've been a couple of times now.

SPEAKER_00 21:17

Yeah, the film festival's a very good um addition to to Focus Wales. I've been running for a number of years. Um did you say you had a music video promoted there as well?

SPEAKER_04 21:26

Yeah, my track Forget Me Not Blue. So um, yeah, it was so nice to see it on the big screen. I got nominated, so yeah, it was amazing.

SPEAKER_00 21:33

So are you planning on coming back again to to Rexton for Focus Wales?

SPEAKER_04 21:37

Yeah, 100%. I can't make it this year, but I'm definitely going to apply um for next year.

SPEAKER_00 21:43

Brilliant. Fancy. We'll look forward to definitely having you back here again for Focus Wales. Um, looking ahead, what can fans expect from you next then, Macy? Any upcoming releases? I know you've just had one recently, or any other projects in the pipeline?

SPEAKER_04 21:56

Yeah, so I can't say too much, but I have got um some. Releases this year, um, which I'll be announcing super super soon. Um, and then I've got a gig tonight actually, um, in Barry, in Barry Island. Fantastic. Um, it's for like um a five to twelve year old, so it's like my first gig kind of vibe, which will be super cute. I'm really looking forward to it. And then I'm at In It Together festival on the 23rd of May, which will be really fun. And yeah, I'm just planning gigs throughout the year then, so everything will be announced on my social medias very soon.

SPEAKER_00 22:32

Brilliant. Um, just talking about social medias, where can people find more details about you?

SPEAKER_04 22:38

So it's at Macy Music on all platforms.

SPEAKER_00 22:41

Macy Music on all platforms. Okay, even X. No.

SPEAKER_04 22:45

Well, yeah, you can't buy me on X, but there might be some dust on it.

SPEAKER_00 22:51

What advice would you give to someone who's like an aspiring musician or creative who's just starting out? Obviously, you've had some great successes throughout your time. If somebody's listening to this podcast and they want to get into writing music, creating music, what advice would you give to them specifically?

SPEAKER_04 23:07

So I would say keep going. If you've got a dream, you've just got to keep reaching to the stars and like, you know, you've got to just yeah, keep going. Um, and I would say work with as many people as you can. Like try not to say no um too much, but also don't be a people please read that. Um but yeah, I would just say, you know, when you're starting out, just like work with as many people as you can, collaborate, um, go to as many networking networking sessions, um, and yeah, just keep going. I just feel like like I said, if you've got a dream and a passion, you will just have the motivation to get up every day and just do what you love. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00 23:47

Fantastic, great, great advice. I think from everyone we've spoken to on this podcast, a lot of their advice is just do it. Just you know, if you're thinking of doing something, just do it, whether it's good or bad. Exactly. You learn from your mistakes every time. And it's just about being creative and doing those things and getting it out there for people to hear.

SPEAKER_04 24:06

And don't like, don't be like, you know, worried to make mistakes. Oh my gosh, I've made so many mistakes. You know, it's it's just natural. I think I feel like you said you learn from your mistakes, and yeah, that's just how you climb up the ladder then.

SPEAKER_00 24:17

Definitely. Have you ever released, and this is gonna sorry if I asked this question, but have you ever released a track that you've thought I need to pull that or I'm not gonna release that track?

SPEAKER_04 24:28

Um yeah, I think like some of my earlier tracks, um obviously like I was so excited to release music and it was kind of like, yeah, just go, go, go, like release. I was young, like, woo. Um, but like looking back, I would definitely say um there's a couple of where I'm like, oh, but you know, I was young, and I just think, well, that's just who I was then, and this is who I am now.

SPEAKER_00 24:52

This is who you are now, exactly. Well, it certainly worked because like you said, you learned from those kind of creative processes, and look where you are now. So you've had some huge successes, and I'm sure you can have a lot more success in the future.

SPEAKER_04 25:03

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 25:05

You're very well, and thank you again for joining us today. It's been amazing to have you on uh the Creative Wrexham podcast. And like I said, I hope we'll see you again in Wrexham very, very soon.

SPEAKER_04 25:14

Arnold, thank you so much. Yeah, 100%.

SPEAKER_00 25:17

You're very welcome. Thank you again, Macy, and uh we look forward to hearing more from you soon.

SPEAKER_01 25:21

Oh, thank you.

SPEAKER_00 25:22

Thank you. Take care.

SPEAKER_01 25:25

Look how far we've come. We've done it before. Let's do it again. Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 25:38

We put our hearts, blood, sweat, and tears to this game. We live for the glory of football, our love the game. We play for our families, we play for each other, we play for our time for the game. They say it's impossible. Enough for us. We give up every time now we all we get back up again.