Brave On with Amy Gonzalez-Nelsen

I am so happy to bring you my conversation with Amy Gonzalez-Nelsen.  Amy is  a self proclaimed Bravery Activator, Intuitive Soul Polisher and Anxiety Warrior. She has faced so many ups and downs in life.  In the midst of much uncertainty came that big “AHA”, the monument.  She heard the word ENOUGH and realized that she needed to make some changes.  She needed to be BRAVE and really that being a human, living this life is BRAVE.  She developed 4 steps that if she could focus on each day, she would be okay.  She founded the Bravery Brigade and is now helping others Brave On!

You can find out more about Amy on her website and on her Instagram where she shares uplifting and inspiring messages we all need to continue to Brave on!

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Transcript

Rise and shine, everybody. It's time to wake up with Susan. Spiritual awakening can be a beautiful, messy, and sometimes lonely journey. So let's do it together. I'm your host, Susan Sutherland. I'm an intuitive healer and spiritual mentor. We are all called to rise up above our conditioning and limiting beliefs and shine our light on ourselves and others.

So let's get to it. Hello family. Thanks for joining this week. I have a very special conversation with Amy Gonzalez Nelson. I met her because she is the manager at my favorite intuitive gift shop, the bag lady here in Charlotte, North Carolina. But when we got to know each other, I got to know her story as the creator of the bravery brigade.

And so today we talk about what being brave looks like. I think it's a great conversation. I'm really excited to share it with you. Enjoy. Good morning, Amy. Thank you so much for being here with me today. I'm really excited to have a conversation with you and share it with everyone because I love your story and what you're doing.

Thank you so much, Susan. Good morning. And good morning to all that is listening. Yeah, I think this is, it's really fun because, um, when things happen and you're able to look back at synchronicities, I think it's so fun. And so I'll tell the story about how I met you, which is, um, I went to the bag lady intuitive gifts, which is our, our local intuitive gift store that I love.

And I was getting a gift for my niece and for whatever reason, while I'm walking around, and I'm like, Huh. Maybe I'll get on the calendar to do healings here. I've been there to work with the healers who are there and just out of nowhere, like I, I put my things down. I had a whole pile of stuff I was going to buy and just out of nowhere, I'm like, yep, I need, I need to speak with the manager.

And that was you. And so I go in there and you and I had this conversation and you're like, you know, you tell me the process in order to do this, you have to come back and do a reading for me. And all of this and we had such a nice chat and I went home and I was like, okay, that's what I'm going to do.

And then the next day I woke up and I was like, nope, that's not what you're going to do. Like I knew that I wasn't going to be a reader there, but I was going to do your reading for you and that I was there to meet you. That for whatever reason, this connection was important for me. And then I started looking about, about you and about your bravery brigade, which is what you started.

And I'm just feeling a connection to talk to you and to do different things. Who knows what it may be, but. Me being brave in that moment and having the conversation, even though it wasn't what I thought it was going to be, it opened up a door to make a connection that I think is important. Absolutely.

You know, it's beautiful when the universe aligns, um, for our highest and greatest good and you being there at that moment, you know, in addition to you just coming into the office to talk about, you know, doing a reading, we got into what you do. And we started talking more about just developing and how beautiful, um, your gift is to the world.

And this was like, Oh, this is going to be fantastic. She's going to come back and she's going to do a reading. And then when you came back and you truly listened to your higher self and was like, Hey, this is not where, um, where I feel comfortable, but there's so much more that could be developed. Um, in coming back to do the store, but that's the beauty of listening to your intuition and taking that next step and just exploring it, um, also, and just that vulnerability of our bravery.

Right. And that's what this is all about. So it was such a pleasure to meet you. And, you know, I think one of the perks of being the general manager. Is to kind of meet all these people and then you call the owners and you're like, guess what? I guess amazing person that I think would be fantastic for the store.

So so The important part about listening to your intuition is you don't have to understand why like I got a, uh, message to get a microphone and start recording, like reading a book, right? Just read a book and, and listen. And it wasn't like get a microphone and start a podcast, but because I received the message, I just started doing, and you don't have to, you don't have to see the destination.

If you just take the next step you're given and the next step you're given. And you know, that is not, um, It's though it may sound simplistic to do, but us as humans, you know, we are habitual and we're very controlled by the mind, um, at, at times. And that's where that difficulty comes in of just listening.

And taking that step and understanding that, let me just take the chance and take that risk and see where it goes. Um, however, you know, as humans, we want to analyze everything, control everything. So this is a process and a daily one for me, which is why I developed what I developed. So let's start, that was just about how we met, which I just think is a fun story of being brave and taking chances.

Your personal story is one about a continual overcoming of adversity and using what you've learned through your own healing, through your own teaching to help others. And it's a long story of a lot of stuff that you have gone through, but give us. Give us the cliff notes catch them up. Okay. So, um, as we all know, you know, living in a world of mental wellness, it's important to understand that a lot of what we feel a majority of what we feel is also that spiritual side of it, right?

It's that intuitive side that we are constantly being given messages and messages from the body and understanding that, hey, it's for us to kind of kind of take a step back and look at What exactly is going on? And you're not heading off the deep end. It's just the intensity of the incoming so anxiety as a young child and not a hundred percent understanding that in addition to The massive incoming that in fact was my intuitive gifts, right?

I was also hyper Sensitive to the emotions around me Which later I would learn it brings me into the intuitive healing practice that I'm in and knowing that regardless of the amount of anxiety that I was going through, I ultimately had a choice of where I was going to take this. Um, I could have easily just stayed on the floor and waited to have the grass grow on top of me, or I could choose to get up and decide what happens next.

There's that inner voice for me that was loud enough to say, okay, enough, enough, enough, it's time to pay attention and let's see where this takes us. Now, again, ultimately it is a choice. So through, um, passing of loved ones through cancer, through divorce, through, you know, um, many other, you know, adversities in, in my life, it was this.

Kind of this flame, this interner flame that just didn't want to be, um, extinguished out. And that's when the development came in of like, Okay, what are only four things that I could do in my life to get me through each day? And that's when I developed the four piece to piece, which is just four easy principles.

Um, what I thought at first to get me through my day. So I developed, if I could change perspective every day, if I could practice the practice of life, because life's going to go on, whether I'm in it or not, um, if I take a moment and. You know, learn to have patience with this whole process and then understanding that purpose is just in the moment, then I'll be okay.

Um, and it was a slow go and it's still ever, ever, um, evolving. So. That became something that I would, uh, speak out to others and explain how, how did you figure this out? And I said, well, I just developed it for myself. And then it became more of like, Hey, Catherine, you teach me this. So up came the development of, uh, for peace to peace, which is the basis of my, um, intuitive healing process.

Which I love and, and you did do a cliff notes and went really quickly through it, but I think, I think it's so important for, well, I think it's important for us to realize that sometimes we go through things. So that we can resonate with others so that we can have these shared experiences with others.

Like you have been through the ringer. Like from a small child, Divorce and relocating and then your brother committing suicide and then you know, Marriage and divorce and children on the spectrum and it, it's a lot. And so kind of put an exclamation point beside those things in the land of the higher light reel, I feel like, um, often we get lost, we get lonely when we are going through things and I do feel like part of your journey, part of.

All the things that you have gone through is developing this understanding, this compassion, this empathy for all the people you are meant to help. Thank you. And you know, yeah. Um, This journey was one that had a challenge me to ask for help. And it's still a challenge for me to ask for help. Um, it's getting more, um, part of me, you know, that, uh, I'm not less than for asking for it.

You know, there's also this tremendous generational, um, Um, development, you know, I'm only doing what I'm taught. Right. And then my parents, so it's this, you know, rippled effect. So, you know, years ago you didn't, you know, ask for help, let alone talk about mental wellness. Right. So when I fully stepped into the space of, um, I now am the generational breaker.

How do I start this? Receiving the lessons and tools that I need. I have no choice but to, I mean, I did have a choice, but to ask for help. So when I put myself out there and really understood the importance of my vulnerability did like a whole world and it was like, there is everybody. And even folks that.

Um, I would connect with that. I would never see again. It was just this shared moment of a tool of a lesson, a handhold, you name it. And it just really brought in my view about, you know, we are really truly all in this together. And if we give ourselves that opportunity to be vulnerable to another human being.

There is an exchange, you know, I have something you need, you have something I need and then that's when this continued to open up and how great and filled with promise and joy and excitement that this is who I naturally am. I love to connect with people, but how do we continue this? How do we? Um, continue to open up our spaces, knowing that if we don't work together, we're all going down with the ship, you know?

Right. Yeah. It is like when you understand the connectedness, you want everyone to succeed. Like you're doing, you're doing this for me too. I want you to thrive. I want you to be happy and joyful and healthy. I want that for everyone because I see me in them. Thank you for playing your role. Can we all do it better?

Yeah. And you know, there is, it's, you know, it's not about, um, tangible items. The tangible item is connection. It's heart. It's compassion. That's the tangible item. Right. And it's abundance. You know, there is enough for everyone out there. And the enough is. Um, just the basic, you know, raw space of human to human.

Like we obviously are still here on this planet because we've done something. Right. So let's continue to figure it out together. And it truly is this tremendous energetic rush for me when I do connect with another person and hear their story and see them Um.

And I just got chills. Um, so it, this development of, um, what I do is, yeah. How far can I reach? How much can, uh, what I want to say be pushed out into the world so that they can then do it for someone else. You know, we all become brave reactivators. So, yes. So you got to a place where inside of you. You heard, you heard enough, like it is time to make a change.

If you didn't, do you think there would have been another push, another push, another push? Like we get pushed until it's like, okay, okay, okay. That's a really, really brilliant question. Um, you know, it's really difficult for me to think back to not ever having that enough voice come through. I am a firm believer that It would still have happened.

I'm glad that it has happened when it did for, um, I, you know, again, I can't imagine my life back then. Um, however, it's, it's a calling and you know what, I believe we all get it. It's just, if this is your lifetime to get it great, if not, it'll come again. I really believe that we all get it, um, in our lifetime.

It's just, it's just heating that call. And so, so you heard the enough and you started listening to your inner voice and making changes that aligned with you and, and that's when you started the bravery brigade, right? So enough came around 2012, 2013. Um, I was just in the middle of another anxiety moment.

I don't want to say attack, but, um, anxiety moment, I would like to say. And it truly was a voice as loud as I hear mine and yours. And it was an opportunity to really decide, okay, you know, I use this, um, analogy when you jump in a pool and you sink to the bottom and you could still see up, right. You still feel all that pressure on your chest of you're holding your breath.

You have a choice. Where do you go up where you stay, where you are. And it was. That opportunity that, okay, I want to take a breath, but where do I go from there? And I truly believe that moment when I chose is when things began to unfold. Now y'all that's all listening. This is just not happened overnight.

Yeah, this is still ever evolving. Um, but it was those slow, slow, slow steps of, okay, what happens next? What happens next? Um, and then. I was developing, okay, how can I share this out with the world? And I was watching, um, a documentary about the suffragettes and the term brigade came up in the background.

And I was like, you know what I am talking about how incredibly awesome just being a human is. It's about bravery. And then I'm like, brigade. I'm like, Oh, that's a great idea. We're all this bravery brigade, each of us putting out this energy of connection and, um, supporting each other. Okay. So did or did not Merida inspire this because you look like her look like about the curly freckled redheaded princess with the bravery brigade.

So really interesting is that both my sons, um seem to love redheads So my eldest one up falling in love with little mermaid and then my youngest fell in love with Merida from brave and it was my youngest around that time When I opened up and listened so I will take it She's a one bad, you know, wonderful princess.

So yes, thank you. I will take it. Yeah. Okay. I was like, huh, I wonder if that inspired her because you totally look like her. I was like, that's perfect. Like the bravery brigade, you know, and also to, you know, it came down to that, how I really understood. Um, and it's, as you know, I went through nine 11. Um, I've had family members in all major world wars and.

The term bravery, we always relate to, or correlate, I should say to firefighter or soldier, you know, anyone that is out there running in, into that burning building. And I really kind of, again, on my soapbox, I was like, well, wait a second. There's that perspective shift, you know, us. Deciding to get up every day and participate in our life is brave flat out and that's when it really all just shifted of like every person on this planet that is, is, is, you know, really in participating in their life.

That's brave. That's bravery to me. Yeah. Yeah. And what do you think about? Because when I think of bravery, it is it's a daily choice to be brave when you are living, like, even putting on a podcast about spirituality versus religion. That was the bravest thing I've had to do in a long time. And spirit kind of pushed me to where.

I didn't feel like I have a choice anymore. It's like enough. Okay. I'm going to do it. But, um, I got it. Yeah. Um, but I also feel like, and I know, you know, you spoke on a, a different podcast. I listened to about not necessarily resonating with a typical. That's prescribed to women when we were growing up and, you know, you kind of end up settling into that role, but being brave is sometimes just doing things differently.

Or even nowadays, I feel like for women, there's such expectation for. Every thought and every second to be poured into somebody else to be the last one that is on your agenda to self care right now is almost brave, like to to take time for yourself where it's like, well, why are you doing that when you've got kids and you know, why are you, why are you pouring into yourself?

And the fact that self care. Feels like a brave choice feels wrong, but like, what do you think about that? Uh, again, another great point. This goes back to what I'm saying about this generational thinking of the definition of a woman and their role in the world and society and keep going on and on and on, and additionally to, again, you heating that call to create a spiritual podcast, you know, I, I correlate.

Mental wellness with spiritual wellness. It all comes hand in hand. So to live our best life, to be our best person is that combination of human and spirit together. So it's redefining who we are as human, not gender, right? So a woman and a man's role is equally the same. It's just shifting that perspective of, you know, centuries of thinking.

And again, going back to that together, we have to move forward in the best way to evolve as beings, you know? So to take these steps, it's interesting that we even have to use the word brave. Yeah, it's just being human. It's being, you know, both that human and, and spiritual person at the same time. So, right.

Okay. So we're all waking up. We're choosing our brave life. Now what you have developed your, your plan for the brave life is. The four P's. And I want you to take us through each of the P's. Go through the P's and let us know how we're going to do this. Okay, so like I mentioned earlier, um, I'm coming up with an idea for myself of how I could get through each day.

And four was that magic number. If I could get through four things each day, I'm golden. I'm good. And P number one was about perspective. Shifting perspective. I mean, perspective is when we are in our perspective, that's our own truth. But when we open up and learn to shift perspective, there's all these wonderful different views, um, of the whole, and really gets us to kind of pause in the space of like, okay.

You know, I know my stuff, but how do I shift that perspective to equal out that energy to make the next decision and step for myself, right? Um, the initial part is it is all about me. However, I am participating with many other humans on this planet. So learning to shift perspective really humbled me and got me into a space of like, okay.

I know what my truth is. Let me gather others before I continue to move forward. So then with that, shifted into a space of practicing. And again, life is a practice. You have to participate. If you don't, again, life will go on with or without you. So practicing each of these steps, getting up every morning, uh, taking a class, putting nourishing your body.

These are all choices. So that's participating and practicing the practice of life. So that is part of, once I shift perspective, okay, I'm going to practice my daily life. And then it moved into patience. It's the virtue that I am forever looking for. My mom, still waiting for me to get patience. Patients, I'm sure we all could relate to being the anxiety warrior that I am.

I always want to get to step 20. Yeah. I don't want to go through, you know, step, you know, two through 19. I want to be already there. So the patients part really, and this is a daily, daily one, it probably pushes up before the perspective part at this point is that just pause, take a minute and allow things to unfold.

Yes. It makes my bum twitch. Yes. I just, you know, I want to be there already, but I know that the more I practice this patient's part, it's this new habit of allowing the energy to flow the way it's supposed to. There's an operative word is allow. Yeah. And then the fourth P was that purpose again, goes back to that patient's part.

What is my purpose for today? Of course I have a grand old purpose of service that I want for the rest of my days, but what is the purpose for today? And again, that goes back to, um, that space of just taking each moment as it comes. And this was, and at times still a daily struggle. Yeah. For the constant incoming, you know, we live in a world where there's so much incoming that they're already on step 50.

Yeah. And that sensation of that, well, I'm not there yet. And how do I get there? It's always, we're living in either the, the past or the future. We're never, ever living just here. And to me that is a practice all on its own and all of that comes to a space of peace. I feel peace If I could get through those four, those four Ps and you just added two more PSS for paws and presents , so it's like, but I.

I want to go back and just the things that kind of came up for me as you are going through them, um, but for perspective, like, initially, what I was thinking about is I read this book, um, dying to be me and she's talking about. She had a near death experience and is talking about her journey, but one of the things she said is basically like when, when we're on earth, it's like, we're going through a cave with a flashlight and all you can see is the light in front of you.

Right? And then when you get to the other side, it's like. All of the bright lights come on and you can see everything. But when you're, when I was thinking about perspective, it's like, this is my one little tunnel of light. And it's really important to remember that other people are entering the cave with their own flashlights.

And we can make that big as far as like understanding other cultures and religions and space, but it's also understanding that. An ex husband you're co parenting with has his own perspective or your boss that you're kind of in a struggle with has his own perspective. And so when we sit with the idea that all I have is my little flashlight and let me just acknowledge this person's coming into this situation from a different place with their own little flashlight and let me acknowledge and respect Their journey and what they have to offer, it definitely would make you less combative in your relationships.

It also gives us a sense of a reset and to assess the situation, right? So perspective. It's a learning process for me. It's literally retraining my brain to not be so reactive. I'm right where I am. This has to be this way. And that's fear. That's, you know, what can I control? And perspective got me into the space of understanding that the only person I can control is myself.

I can't control anybody else around me. So giving myself that pause to listen. To other folks truly listen with no judgment, no assumption whatsoever really helped broaden my view to then get into a space of, um, my answer or my, uh, response, and then also my response going forward. It is challenging for I, I believe the world is based on.

This personal perspective, right? It's got to be you. Can't be anyone else, right? Yeah, so that's what I believe hinders us overall of just collaborating and getting to the bigger picture. There's so much of like right wing, left wing. Same bird, y'all, you know, like there's, it's so, if everybody could just start with P number one, number one, we'd be in a place, better place of just acknowledging that they came to their beliefs and their conclusions from their own experiences.

And you can't know what those are. So just respect, right? And also too, it's, it's really going back to that space of listening to listen, not listen to fix. And that was again, another lesson that, um, I really had to embrace and take a step back and say, Hey, you, you have no idea what's going on in that other person's life.

You really don't. It's not even a snapshot. It's a microcosmic snapshot. Of a person's life and that, again, with my own experiences and my own adversities is that, oh, well, God, if I went through this, I can't imagine what the person next to me went through. Yeah, yes. All right. So when you spoke of practicing, what came up for me is that the people who would be listening to this.

Probably are in their own healing journey, right? They are doing the work or probably would not be listening to this. And so when I think of practicing, there is that there is the, the journaling and the meditating and the connecting, that is a practice. But I think. What we need to be reminded of is that we have to practice being joyful and being childlike and bringing like taking some of the seriousness away.

Like we're all so busy practicing our work, you know, like this, this improvement of ourself and that can be serious and it can be heavy sometimes, but we also have to practice being joyful and having fun and just being carefree. I, I like to say practicing the brave, everyone needs to practice their brave.

And with this whole development of, of bravery brigade became an energetic, um, Um, I guess practice that I use called brave on, and it's a, it's a term that I use constantly at the end of anything I do. And I tag it everywhere. And really, I saw the word brave as an acronym for a bold, resilient, authentic, vulnerable energy.

And that's something we step into every day in P2 when we practice, right. We are practicing our brave and that is. That inner, um, fist bump, high five for yourself and others. Then you emulate that. And that's that joy that comes out. So yes, you're right. It is that joyfulness. It's that it's that brave on joy.

Yeah, I love that. I love that acronym too. And it's, it's. I feel like practicing too is practicing giving ourselves the love and compassion that we so readily give to everybody else. It is learning to do that mirror high five and to be like, yes, sister, you are beautiful. Way to go. Yeah. It's really becoming comfortable with that reflection and, you know, looking at her, him, and just being like, dang it, you know, great to see ya every morning, you know?

I'm glad you're deciding to get up today and participate and be part of this whole world that, that, that we're in. So, um, it is, you know, practicing is something else and it really. It goes back to when I was going through my cancer journey. I was on my way to get surgery done, and it just dawned on me as I was driving past the hospital that at this very moment, someone is being born and someone is passing.

It was like this light and I'm like, well, dang it. And then yet everyone's going through their day, right? Someone's questioning the street. Someone's getting lunch. So it's that really that moment of, you know, I get to choose because this is going to keep happening, whether I participate or not. So that's where that.

Practice came in. I love that. Okay. Patience. This is, this is not my strength.

Yeah. Patience is not my strength. And I saw something the other day. It's actually a real estate mentor that I had posted a reel. And it was like, hello, Susan, this reel is for you. And it said, Stop comparing your chapter one to somebody else's chapter 10. And I was like, okay, I feel seen because it is like, Hey spirit, I've said I'm ready for this, but then they'll like, tell me what to do.

And I have so much resistance. And it's like, see, you weren't ready. You weren't ready. Not for all that. You know, when you can see kind of what's coming down the road, it's like, okay, I'm ready. Let's do that. And it's like, no, you're not ready. So it is. Patience and allowing for divine timing and knowing that you might, you need to go through this experience as you still need to, um, do a lot of things before you get where you think you should be.

Patience is, uh, that constant, you know, Itch that you can't scratch enough patience is you know Waiting for the light to turn green and you're there for what you feel like is 10 hours and it's not even been like two seconds patience really developed again goes back to the Anxiety warrior space is that natural space of having it already happen?

Now, mind you, I grew up in New York. So in a space of a city where things need to be done yesterday, I'm surrounded by that energy of inpatients, right? So it, I embodied even more because of the environment that, um, that I lived in now, as I've gotten older. Add in all, like I said, the whole technology thing where things are literally in a split second given to you.

And I find myself if, you know, something page isn't loading fast enough, it's incredible how you could feel it on a, on, on a body space of that impatience. God, now that it's like, you know, There, the whole world is happening. And why are we not patient enough to pay attention to it? All evolving. That's what I'm saying.

We all live in the past or the future and not here. So that is such an incredible. Sometimes patience is before perspective for me, right? All of these P's are like cyclical and they're ever evolving and one has more precedence over the other. But, um, that's a choice every day. Every day is, is to find that, that, that, that patience.

And I think, uh, for me, One of the things that has helped me be more patient in our human life at the stoplight, or, you know, those kind of interactions is assuming that if I'm held up. It is for my own good, like, there is something you are protecting me for from. That I'll just sit extra long. Oh, there's a construction.

The whole thing for protecting me for, from whatever was hurried along my journey. If I see it that way, then I get less, you know, like you're in less of a rush. If you just assume that somebody's looking out for you and you need to sit here right now, but isn't that also a. That's a perspective shift. So you moved yourself to P one, right?

And that's the beauty of how this works is like, okay, well then obviously I'm shifting perspective and I'm, that's okay. Um, I'm slow because there's an accident and yeah, yeah. It all, it all works together.

And I do love that for purpose. You don't make it like, what is your divine purpose? What is your soul's calling right now? It is. What is your purpose for today? And that might be to be present, to be happy, to, um, You know, show up and do my best, but I like that it doesn't have to be this grand because I think people in our age bracket, uh, right now are at the age where it's like, I'm supposed to do something like the nudges that they're coming.

And it's, it's that I know I'm meant for more. What is it? And we can get so wrapped up in what is our purpose? What is our purpose? But right now you just have to choose what is your purpose for today? This has been, and I'm noticing that I've gotten more comfortable with this P about purpose for, yeah, my, what I'm doing now is not what I went to college for, is not what I, you know, thought I would be as far as career wise.

So, all this idea of what's my purpose, you know, purpose of becoming a teacher, a doctor, or what have you, and also my age, not that I'm old. But, you know, I should be a certain place at this point. So this is becoming more and more comfortable for, I don't want to miss out on the moment. So let me just stay here in this purpose space.

Now, again, all you listeners, yes. Amy gets to a space where I like want to pull my hair out of my head and say, I'm not where I want to be, you know, purpose wise. However, it comes back to choice and it. All of this, all these four P's is a new habitual way of thinking. So your body will react with that. So I'm becoming more comfortable with it.

It's part of who I am. So purpose is today. The purpose is today. And I think it was Gabby Bernstein posted something the other day and it was just like in the morning before you get out of bed, think. How do I want to feel today? Like, just, just make it simpler. Like it doesn't have to be this massive purpose.

It's like, at the end of the day, what will have meant it was a successful day? How do I want to feel? How do I want to make others? Feel in my presence, but you can just simplify it down to these very manageable things you can control, which like you said, are perspective and reaction to your situations.

But in doing so, when you evaluate your day at the end of the day, it's not like, did I make 3 million? It's. Did I feel good in my body? Did I help others feel good in theirs? Yeah. And you know, that goes back to also those with families, kids, extra family members, and, you know, home friends. It's that ultimate connection of, you know, did, how do you feel that you took that time to be part of their journey as well?

And they are part of yours for, you know, myself who has gone through so much loss. Um You know, the The sun is brighter. The trees are greener. I want that. So if at the end of the day, I able, I was able to recognize that then dang it that I did a good job today. Yeah, but it really helps me make, make choices I probably wouldn't make.

Like, like last night I played Exploding Kittens with my son. I don't know if you've ever played this. I've heard it, yes. It's rough. It's not like, yes, that's the most fun game I've ever played. But when he asked me, it was like, Hey, I need one on one time with you. Would you like to do this or continue folding laundry?

And like the week is starting, I'd like all my stuff done, but it was choosing right then to be present and to be purposeful in this relationship with him. He's choosing you do the same for him. And when you, when you can. Start breaking things down in those little nuggets and those little moments. Then at the end of the day, you do feel like, like my purpose was to connect with my family and I chose that.

And then it's like super rewarding. And then also too, you now are just creating a behavior that he gets to mirror as he gets older. Right. So again, it's, it's a constant give and take. So in that moment, you shifted that perspective to be there for him when he asked you to, right. And that knowing, yeah, the laundry is going to be there.

I want to have that purposeful time with him. Then as he grows. And he develops and as his relationships go, he will, it is that innate knowing of, I'm just going to put this aside and I'm going to hang with my mom, which he asked, you know, I've been doing that lately with my kids. I'm like, you got to hold your old mama's hand.

You know, like it's just, I want them to emulate what I'm learning because this is all coming new too. Right. So. Um, I think that's such a beautiful moment, even if it's exploding kittens. So even if it's exploding kittens, that's like, okay, let's do this. And my older kids were like, we're out. But that's awesome.

That's awesome. All right. So you've given us the four P's anything else that people need to. To know to kind of move through anxiety. Cause we can't, we can't take away those feelings that come up. It's, it's the environment we live in. It's the culture we've created, but what are you going to leave them with?

I'm going to leave them with the brave on it's connecting to that brave. It's connecting to, and I'll say it again, the acronym, a bold, resilient, authentic, vulnerable energy. It's you get to. Cheer yourself on every time you're in that space, you know, brave on you are living, you know Outside of the box because there is no box.

It's you know, ultimately this journey is a solo one, right? We of course are surrounded by those we ask for help for but in the end It's the importance of you being your best cheerleader every day. You are your best advocate. You know what you need. And it really comes back down to that. You to that self care.

Um, it's knowing who you are so that then you can participate and practice life, right? It's putting your best foot forward. And if that is just taking a shower, then high five. I mean, it's not. You know, it's again, changing the perspective of how we view what is a purposeful day, you know? So in the end, it is your brave every day.

That's what I want to leave our listeners with is that, you know, God, I will, I want to fist bump you high five. Yeah. Good for you for getting up today. Right. Um, good for you for taking the moment to listen to this podcast. Cause you're getting something out of it, you know? Um, And just brave on everyone. I love it.

I love it. Being brave is choosing yourself. Yeah, it really is. And it's giving permission for others to do the same. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you so much for sharing this time. I'm going to have links of how to connect with you, how to link up to your bravery. Brave, brave brigade. Yeah. That's tongue twister. I know.

I love it though. My, my own personal Merida here. Um, but thank you for sharing this time with me. I appreciate you so much. Thank you. Have a great day, everyone. Thank you so much for listening. If you found this conversation valuable, please take a moment and rate the podcast. This is how it shows up for other people in their searches and really gets more exposure for the podcast.

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