Ep 23 Big Triangle UFO

In this episode I look at several cases of UFO reports where the UFO is a triangular shape.  If you have a UFO story send me an e-mail at ufoandalienpodcast@gmail.com

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Ep 23 Big Triangle UFO

Hello and welcome back to the UFO and Aliens Podcast. I’m your host Rick Black. It’s been really nice here in the afternoons so I’ve been able to walk Charlie when I get home.  It hasn’t been too hot. We go on this long walk about a mile and a half and we pass by two ponds. I’ve been seeing a little alligator, maybe about three feet long, in one pond or the other.  Well, not in the pond, but on the banks lying in the sun. Well, this last walk we went on the alligator was in the water on our side of the pond.  All you could see was the end of his nose and his two little eyes sticking out of the water. If you don’t know what to look for you could walk right past it without knowing it was there. This big white egret landed not too far from the alligator and started walking slowly along the bank.  I stopped to see what would happen when it got close to the alligator. I thought I might see some nature happening right in front of me.  The egret stopped right in front of the alligator and lowered its head and looked right at it.  It was only a couple of inches away from the alligator.  If the alligator wanted to bite that bird it would be not problem but the alligator didn’t flinch.  It just sat there totally still.  I thought that was pretty cool.  Charlie didn’t know why we stopped, so we went on.

If you’ve been listening then you know at the end of the podcast I ask if you have a UFO story that you’d like to share, then send me an e-mail.  And then I give my e-mail address out.  I haven’t received a single e-mail from a listener. Which is okay, if you don’t want to say anything, that’s fine.  I know you’re listening because I get reports on downloads. But then I get a message on messenger asking if ufo’s and aliens is my podcast.  Yes it is.  This person has been trying to send his story in but wasn’t able to.  But, I’ve been giving my e-mail address out.  What’s up with that? I must have messed up somewhere. So I sent something to myself and I didn’t get it. I went back and I check the e-mail address and found it.  I have been asking you to send your stories to ufoandalienspodcast@gmail.com, but the e-mail address is actually ufoandalienpodcast@gmail.com.  There is no S after alien.   So, If you’ve tried to send me and e-mail, whether it’s a story you want me to look into or to tell your story, please try again.  The address is ufoandalienpodcast@gmail.com.  So, here’s the story that’s been waiting all this time to be told.  His name is Rich Starbird and this is his story.

It was in New Hampshire just after Christmas in either 1973 or 74.  Rich’s mother had just given him a ten speed bike for Christmas. During this time, Rich used to take laundry to the laundromat.  He would take it up there, ride home, and then go back and put it in the dryer. On one particular night there was about a foot of snow on the ground with a thick crust on top.  Rich took the bag of clothes on his bike and was coming out of the driveway when he noticed a glow on the snow near the road.  He looked up and saw a round silhouette with three lights in a triangle shape. This scared Rich so much that he turned his bike around, rode over some of the crust of snow to head back to the house. As he turned he looked over his shoulder and the UFO was gone. He went on back to the house.  Later, in the same week, he saw in the Dover, NH, Fosters Daily Democrat newspaper, there had been multiple reports in the area.  In fact, the Dover NH Police had reported seeing a UFO.  

Rich tried researching but never found anything.  

I don’t know if he searched back in 1974 or later, but if it was back then, it would have been really hard to find anything.  Now, with the internet, it can still be pretty hard to find specific things like this incident.  

Back when people first started using the term “UFO’s”, most reports were of disc shaped objects seen in the sky. But since then, there have been UFO’s in many shapes and sizes reported. There are saucers, eggs, hats, cigars, boomerangs, lightbulbs and most recently tictacs.

One of the most commonly reported shapes is actually V-shaped, arrowhead or triangular. David Marler, a UFO researcher and author of “Triangular UFOs: An Estimate of the Situation,”  says that he has reviewed  more than 17,000 case files involving unidentified triangular craft, that are sometimes referred to as “black triangles.” Whether the sightings  represent advanced U.S. spy craft—as some speculate—or something from…somewhere else remains to be seen.

October 10th, 2006 in Point McKenzie, Alaska, a man with decades of experience in the military and aviation industry, saw a very large, totally silent, triangular shaped craft.

This is a single witness whose name has been withheld. The following is directly from the witness.

“I came out of my friend’s home and noticed these lights through the trees. I thought it was an aircraft so I started driving down the drive and kept looking at the lights. By the time I got to the end of the driveway I was wondering what kind of aircraft this was. I tried to turn off my radio. I hit the button twice and the radio came back on, so I turned off my car. Still no engine noise from the craft which at this point was about 300ft to 600 ft in altitude and approximately ¼ of a mile from me.

At this point the craft turned right. That’s when the outline of a triangle shaped craft was visible because there was a whitish glowing light. That’s when I knew this was not like any aircraft I have ever seen before. When the craft turned it didn’t bank like an airplane. It looked almost like it was sliding. Then I drove down the Hazel Road to Becker Lake to get a better look at it. It was almost parallel with me. I went to the corner and stopped and turned off my engine. Still there was no engine noise. At this point the craft turned left toward Point Machenzie. It looked like it was travelling at around 50 mph. Then it went out of sight.”

There is a drawing of this craft. It is just a rough sketch, but it is an equilateral triangle with each side of the triangle being about 200 feet long at least. There were steady white lights on all three corners of the craft and a red beacon in the center.  That’s the same description that I have heard in other cases as well. An you will hear some more later.

On Sunday, July 6th 1997 at about 6:30 p.m. four people are riding in a car driving back from a volleyball tournament in Perth, Scotland. It was a beautiful clear summer night and they had just passed Stirling when the man in the front passenger seat noticed a strange object directly above the road in front of them. He asked the driver if he could see it and the answer was ‘yes’. He asked the driver “have you seen anything like it before?” no. It was hard to tell exactly how big the craft was or the distance from the car. The best guess of the witness was that it was wider than the wingspan of a small two-seater airplane and was flying no more than a few hundred feet above them. They were fairly close and got a very good look at the craft as they approached it and then passed underneath it. The underside appeared to be very flat and they couldn’t see any height to it at all. It must have been going either very slow or just hovering because they caught up to it pretty quickly.  They were travelling at about 80 mph. The driver asked “do you see which way it’s moving” no. The craft was perfectly triangular except for a rectangular bar at the front of the craft. It was totally black, there were no markings of any kind and there didn’t seem to be a source of propulsion.  As they drove under it, they couldn’t hear any noise.  If they hadn’t seen it, they could have just driven right under it without knowing it was there. 

All four people in the car saw it, the two in the front of the car probably had the best view and the whole encounter took only a minute or so from the time they first saw it to when they had gone so far past it that they couldn’t see it anymore.

There was a fair amount of traffic, so they couldn’t have been the only ones to see it.

The witness in this sighting was about 31 years old and in his final year of college. He was travelling with acquaintances that were giving him a ride from the volleyball tournament that they had been playing in.  One witness was a policeman, one was a teacher and the witness didn’t know the occupation of the fourth passenger.

He didn’t think that this was some sort of stealth aircraft because he didn’t see anything underneath that would indicate joints for landing gear or any sign of propulsion, plus it wasn’t moving fast enough to be a conventional aircraft.

On October 30th 1994 at around 1:45 a.m. a couple in a car see a luminous circle of lights turning on itself and the edge of which lights are evenly spaced.  It is about 15 to 20 feet above the car and is not moving. The car leaves quickly but a little further finds the craft in front of the vehicle. It was a triangle with equilateral sides about 30 feet long. The car was going around 50 mph and the craft followed them. When they changed direction, the craft sped up and moved away.  The witnesses said as they saw it fly away it looked more like it had a boomerang shape. At the same time, another couple in a different car also witnessed the craft.  It remains unexplained.

On February 2nd, 1990 a soundless flying triangle was seen near Hamburg, Germany by the amateur astronomer Gutschke when he looked at the sky to observe the stars at 1:15 a.m. The 230 feet long triangle was surrounded by a luminous dust. In the three corners there were pinkish luminous rings. The altitude was approximately 1,000 feet. In about 8 seconds the triangle moved from the zenith to the horizon, in the direction of the city of Hamburg, where it vanished in the dust.

On November 22nd, 1989 at 9:00 p.m. A man and his wife were in the backyard of their house in Cooper City Florida waiting for the launching of the Space Shuttle when they saw a very large, dark triangle flying from east to west. It was completely silent. They counted seven circular white lights on the underside. The triangle craft was moving really fast and it was surrounded by a white haze.

The lights on the underside were NOT flashing or pulsating. The craft was darker than the night sky. It appeared to be heading from the east to southwest from the ocean from the Fort Lauderdale area towards the Everglades.

The altitude was no more than a mile and what impressed them both was the speed, shape, lights, and silence of the craft.

The witnesses, who ask to remain anonymous, are considered to be very reliable witnesses. The husband has been a senior law enforcement official for several decades.

How many is that? 6 I think. Just scratching the surface here.  

From October 1989 throughout 1990, hundreds of reports of lighted objects, frequently described as enormous and triangular in shape were recorded in Belgium. Air Force supersonic F-16 jets chased these giant triangles, which were simultaneously tracked by both airborne and ground radars. The Belgian Government cooperated fully with civilian UFO investigators, which has never happened before.

Among the thousands of witnesses were many police officers, pilots, scientists and engineers. The wave was documented by the Belgian Society for the Study of Space Phenomena (SOBEPS), a private organization from Brussels, which published two thick volumes on the UFO wave.

The first important case was a multiple-witness observation of a strange aircraft, reported by the police on patrol near the town of Eupen, not far from the German border. Auguste Meessen, professor of physics at the Catholic University in Louvain and a scientific consultant of SOBEPS, summarized the case:

"On November 29, 1989, a large craft with triangular shape flew over the town of Eupen. The police from Montigny and Nicol found it near the road linking Aix-la-Chapelle and Eupen. It was stationary in the air, above a field which it illuminated with three powerful beams. The beams emanated from large circular surfaces near the triangle's corners. In the center of the dark and flat understructure there was some kind of 'red gyrating beacon.' The object did not make any noise. When it began to move, the gendarmes headed towards a small road in the area over which they expected the object to fly. Instead, it made a half-turn and continued slowly in the direction of Eupen, following the road at low altitude. It was seen by different witnesses as it flew above houses and near City Hall."

That’s the exact same description as the UFO in McKinzie, Alaska in 2006.

Sightings continued to be logged by SOBEPS and the Police during the fall and winter of 1989-1990. Most witnesses described seeing dark, triangular objects with white lights at the corners and a red flashing light in the middle. Many of the objects were said to have hovered, with some of them then suddenly accelerating to a very high speed. Most of the objects made no sound, but some were said to have emitted a faint humming like an electric motor.

Public interest in the wave reached its peak with a radar/visual and jet scramble incident on the night of March 30-31, 1990. This scramble was seen and reported by hundreds of citizens. A preliminary report prepared by Major P. Lambrechts of the Belgian Air Force General Staff was released to SOBEPS. The "Report concerning the observation of UFOs during the night of March 30 to 31, 1990," includes a detailed chronology of events and dismisses several hypotheses such as optical illusions, balloons, meteorological inversions, military aircraft, holographic projections, etc.

The incident began at 10:50 p.m. on March 30th when the police called the radar “master controller at Glons” to report “three unusual lights forming an equilateral triangle.” More police confirmed the lights in the following minutes. When the NATO facility at Semmerzake detected an unknown target at 11:49 p.m. a decision to scramble two f-16 fighters was made. The jets took off at 12:05 a.m. from Beauvechain, the nearest air base, on March 31st and flew for just over an hour. According to Major Lambrecht’s report:

“The aircraft had brief radar contacts on several occasions, [but the pilots]…at no time established visual contact with the UFOs…each time the pilots were able to secure a lock on one of the targets for a few seconds, there resulted a drastic change in the behavior of the detected targets…[During the first lock-on at 0:13hrs.] their speed changed in a minimum of time from 150-970 knots [170-1,100mph] and from 9,000 to 5,000 feet returning then to 11,000 feet in order to change again to close to ground level”

Although many aspects of this case still remain unexplained, Meessen and SOBEPS have basically accepted the Gilmard-Salmon hypothesis that some of the radar contacts were really "angels" caused by a rare meteorological phenomenon. This became evident in four lock-ons, "where the object descended to the ground with calculations showing negative [emphasis added] altitude... It was evidently impossible that an object could penetrate the ground, but it was possible that the ground could act as a mirror." Meessen explained how the high velocities measured by the Doppler radar of the F-16 fighters might result from interference effects. He points out, however, that there is another radar trace for which there is no explanation to date. As for the visual sightings of this event by the gendarmes and others, Meessen suggests that they could possibly have been caused by stars seen under conditions of "exceptional atmospheric refraction." 

In a recent interview, Major General De Brouwer summarized his reflections on this complex case:

"What impressed me the most were the witnesses, some of whom I know personally and convinced me that, in fact, something was going on. These were credible people and they told clearly what they saw.
 
 "We always look for possibilities which can cause errors in the radar systems. We can not exclude that there was electromagnetic interference, but of course we can not exclude the possibility that there were objects in the air. On at least one occasion there was a correlation between the radar contacts of one ground radar and one F-16 fighter. This weakens the theory that all radar contacts were caused by electromagnetic interference. If we add all the possibilities, the question is still open, so there is no final answer." 

The Belgian UFO wave yielded a rich volume of good quality cases and many videos and photographs. One strikingly clear photograph of a triangular-shaped craft was taken at Petit-Rechain in early April 1990. As of 1994, it remained unexplained after numerous analyses, including a thorough computerized study at the Royal Military Academy. 

Although public interest in the Belgian wave reached its peak in the 1990-91 period, SOBEPS was still documenting cases in late 1993. Marc Valckenaer listed the main characteristics of the Belgian UFOs in the latest SOBEPS study. Various shapes such as round, rectangular and cigar were reported, but the wave was dominated by triangular objects. Some of their characteristics included:

"Irregular displacement (zig-zag, instantaneous change of trajectory, etc.).
 
 "Displacement following the contours of the terrain.
 
 "Varying speeds of displacement (including very slow motion).
 
 "Stationary flight (hovering).
 
 "Overflight of urban and industrial centers.
 
 "Sound effects (faint humming... to total silence)." 

Because the bulk of the Belgian sightings described triangular-shaped objects, many European and American researchers and journalists speculated that these were caused by either F-117A stealth fighters or some other revolutionary U.S. secret military aircraft. However, the only truly unusual characteristic of the F-117 is its near-invisibility to radar and infrared detection - it looks, flies and sounds like any other sub-sonic jet airplane. Similar claims about the presence of other American advanced airplanes are even harder to substantiate: the A-12 Avenger II was never built, and the existence of the TR-3A "manta" is unconfirmed. Neither has even been rumored to be able to fly in the manner reported for the Belgian UFOs.

I’ll give you one more. In Munich Germany in 1984 at 11:00 p.m. four witnesses were lying on a beach and looking into the sky. Suddenly one of the girls, who had never seen a shooting star in her life said  “is this a shooting star?”

What they saw was absolutely breathtaking: Three multicolored lights with a triangle dark shadow between the edges moved across the sky from west to east. It went from their point of view to the horizon very quickly and it was incredibly big. The distances between the lights were about 100 feet.

There was absolutely no noise at all. The lights stayed the same distance from one another the whole time they saw it. There was a light dust in the sky from the river. The object was flying at low speed and vanished east in the dust.

That’s the second time we see “vanished in the dust”. That’s interesting that those exact same words are used in two different cases.  It is a weird way to describe something. It either confirms something or somebody is making a false report using information that they have read or heard from someone else’s report.  

What I find most interesting is the description of the white lights on the corners and the red beacon in the center.

It really makes you think.

Believe none of what you hear and half of what you read.

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